Dumb People Town - DPT Mini - Tiger King Edition Episode 2 and 3

Episode Date: April 2, 2020

Dan, Jason and Randy give their take on Episodes 2 and 3

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DPT the Tiger King DP Tiger King I don't know hey Donnie's welcome, the Tiger King wrap-ups. DP Tiger King? I don't know. Hey, townies. Welcome to a Tiger King roundup of Dumb People Town. Population, I know that was the weirdest opening ever, but we just watched episodes two and three together. Episode two was definitely Tiger King.

Episode three seemed to be from some other documentary called Searching for Don. Yeah. This was like- Where'd Don go? Don and the Costa Rica disappearance. Costa Rica. Don de esta Don. Yeah.

Don Lewis. I mean, I love that there was like, there were a couple of things that were floated in here. There's moments that flash through with me. Like, yeah, like I was the guy who ran a circular saw across his neck. Okay, well, let's moments that flash through with me. I was the guy who ran a circular saw across his neck. Let's start out. We start out with Saf.

He has gotten his arm completely ripped off by a tiger. No, not ripped off, but mangled in a way. They do say ripped off at the beginning, but later on, Saf is like... No, but then Saf said that he had movement in his hands and was able to sign something.

He was able to sign something. Sign some autographs. But then they said, look, I got to get back out there and keep working. I can't be up in this hospital for more than six days. I got to get back on the farm. I got to get back on the job within a week. Because then Joe Exotic

walks into the gift shop and tells everybody, all right, before y'all hear this on the news, we did have an incident here and I can get you your refund back. I can get you your refund back if you want it. By the way, if you want it, I mean, you already paid.

I can reach back into the register. If you want to be a dick and come in here and you can take your money back. Look, somebody's arm got ripped off it ain't no big deal go check out the kids why don't you go over there and check out some of that sex oil if you want to be an indian giver if you've ever taken your money back from the tiger king you might be ready i was gonna see where you went. I was waiting for them to be like, you want a rain check? You want your monobite?

Fine. If you are interested for just $10 or more, I can take you and show you the arm. I will show you where the blood existed. You guys will be able to feed pieces of the arm to the tigers themselves. We'll take pieces of the de-ripped arm and feed it to the rest of the cubs. Or I will offer each of you a pair of my leopard print underwear. So

number one seller, right? Number one seller. So, but I feel like episode two was very much about relationships. We focused a lot on Doc and his women or young women. Doc is basically, did you watch the the special? No, the special on on Or young women. Doc is basically... Did you watch the... Big Love?

No, the special on the Bikram. Yes, of course. The ESPN 30 for 30 podcast is even better than the Netflix. Right. I watched everything. I watched the Netflix, but then I listened to the Bikram thing, and I saw even the real sports thing with Andrea Kramer, where she's at his house

and like he's yelling at her because he can't control her. Oh, it's great. She goes downstairs and like can run. He's in like black jeans with a belt and like a black leotard.

This is the Bikram guy? Yeah, Bikram is like Jimmy Superfly Snooka if he didn't kill his wife but just controlled a bunch of people. And I always looked at Bikram the guy

and I'm like, you should be in better shape than this. When he was younger, he was in insane shape. He was. He's in insane shape. This guy's unbelievable. But you know who else was in young and insane shape?

Doc. Right. And Joe Exotic. Randy, you bring it up every time we see a young Doc. He looks like he's in the band Toto. You know, he was holding the line, and then he kind of gave up. But then as he got older, he looked like he was in the band Crash Test Dummies. And now he just looks like a dummy.

He looks like a fat boomer of size. Fat boomer of size, or if John Innes from Mr. Show, that is a character that he needs to play. Okay, so Safari John Innes. We're dropping stuff. That's okay. Safari John Innes. Stop, Jay. Stop. It's all right.

Everything that you're doing, just stop it. So what was happening is they each had harems, but it reminded me, he called himself Bhagavan, which is what the Bhagavan, what Osho, the guy from Wawa country used to call himself. So they are the ultimate Lord. Bhagavan. But he was, but Bhagavan.

Bhagavan is like Bhagavan. So like he was, he's the Rajneeshi. Lord, you will be my, I will be Lord. Bhagwan. Bhagwan. Bhagwan. Bhagwan is like Bhagwan. So like he was, he's the Rajneeshi. Lord. I will be Lord. First of all, I'm going to change your name. I'm going to make you get thick breasts. I'm going to put you in clothes that I choose for you to wear.

I control everything. I decide when you eat. I decide when you work. I decide when you relax. I decide when you have sex. I'm ugly yet, I decide when you relax, I decide when you have sex. I'm ugly yet I'm going to, except in the 70s, I'm ugly yet I am. You think that's how he describes it? Look, except in the 70s, I get I'm ugly. Hot in the 70s is a great name for a show.

Or a cover band. Or a reunion tour. For sure. Right? So he was. Just like foreigner and lover boy. There. Right? So he was- Just like foreigner and lover boy? There was a moment where he was a good looking dude.

I will grant you. You're going to give him that. In the late seventies, early eighties. He looked like he was in the band Boston. Right. He was a good looking guy, but now he is a fat piece of shit. And the whole idea of him just controlling

these 17 year old girls. Like when you see the elephant that he's riding, like laboring a little bit, you're like, bro. Come on, dude. Lay off the streusel. Right? Yeah. And then we also took a deep dive into the marriage of Joe Exotic.

The three-way marriage. Shirtless man and big hand guy. I don't remember their names. Johnny. I saw his big. Evan. Trevor. Was it Trevor?

Travis. Travis. It was Travis. Six foot six, Travis. I wonder if Travis can dunk. Size 16 shoes. He could bomb a Travis. Travis. Six foot six, Travis. I wonder if Travis can dunk. Size 16 shoes. He could bomb a basketball. Yeah.

And by the way, didn't he in the green screen thing look a lot smaller? Yes. When he's sitting down. I was like, no way this guy's six six. And then they're showing footage of him. This documentary spanned a long time. Right. So he shrunk?

No, I just think he was skinnier in that earlier one. Yeah, he put on some pounds. Yeah. Uh, and they said, how straight are you? That moment was also how straight are you? Ron White has this joke where he's like, everybody's a little bit gay. And it's just, I think it's from his, one of the blue collars, uh, specials, but he was like, uh, everybody's a little bit gay. And he said, his cousin goes, I ain't gay. I ain't gay at all. And Ron White goes, when you watch porn, you, you watch a man with a little penis going at a woman, or do you like to see a big old dick? And then, and then he goes, well, I like to see a big old dick. So

literally the same argument. Yes. I wonder, he probably saw the blue collar comedy. I'm sure he's like a huge blue collar. That made him be like, Oh, that's why maybe I'm a little episode seven. He's like, so I turn her and I said, thanks, Diane. Yeah, so it's quoting your comedy. He's like, like call me tater. I mean, here's your son, right? He starts yelling about chopper for

right up a season to sit chopper for a stop it. So I believe Joe exotic not only illegally procured all these animals. He also stole material from Ron. Fine. Whatever. So then we see this like woke ass Oklahoma wedding.

By the way, you know, if we ever get out of this pandemic and comedy clubs reopen again, you know Joe Exotic, if he's smart, will go out and sell out everywhere. Comedy clubs, dude, he could sell out theaters. He could sell out giant thousand to two thousand theaters. Now, we haven't watched episodes four, five, six, and seven, and he may be a murderer.

A dead or a murderer straight up. I don't believe everyone's going to make it out of this documentary because I've been watching, and there's a lot of time passing in interviews, like a long amount of time. It's crazy. Also, I brought this up. You guys haven't responded to it yet, so I'm glad you saved it for this.

Do you notice? Yeah. We are not seeing any old tigers. What does an old tiger look like? Well, I just think they might be like, well, we've had this one forever. And Joe Exotic talks about how he feeds his animals. Dan, they raise them to a certain age and they sell them. Yeah, but how is he still feeding all those tigers that cheap

unless he's using other tigers? Yes. So he's cannibalizing the tigers. That's my theory. Maybe. And I don't like it. Obviously, you've seen how I react when watching this show. Once a tiger has a taste of Don Lewis, he ain't going back.

Well, we're going to get to that. He ain't going back. We're going to get to that. He ain't going back. We're going to get to that. So we see the marriage. Yep. How consensually, I mean, really open communication.

Joe asked shirtless man whether or not Travis could join their partnership. By the way, and he was like, you liked that. You were like, I said,

that is so woke. Yeah, very sweet. Very sweet. Check in with your partner. See if they're okay with that. But he said, I don't see any problem with it,

which was not like a let's do it. That's not an enthusiastic consent. Okay, let me ask you this. If your wife or girlfriend or partner, I'm going to ask you guys out there, says to you, let's go to dinner at such and such place, and your response is, I don't see any problem with it, then your partner, if they know you, should be like, you don't see any problem with it then your partner if they

know you should be like you don't want to go there because part of every argument is i want you to want to go where we're going that's right yeah yeah why don't we go over to the yes yeah let's do it great great call is what you say great not i don't i don't see a problem oh that's a good idea oh that sounds awesome that sounds great yeah that's not what idea. Oh, that sounds awesome. I didn't think of that. That sounds great. Yeah. That's not what one, two, man says. Can the three of us get married? I don't see a problem with it. Because I didn't know any better. That's what he said.

Right. So there were issues. There's another thing that happened with Doc where he was like, I can see the line of questioning you're going here where you're going to say, oh, you're a cult and you keep all these people. Let me stop you first. There's a thing where a lot of guilty people do. If you watched Criminal Masterminds,

the documentary on Netflix where the guy has a bomb strapped to him and tries to rob a bank. Saw it. So the woman who's insane in that. She basically says, if I did it, I did this, this, this. They tell you everything that they're doing by protesting. It's Carole Baskin in the next episode. We'll get to that.

So Doc is essentially saying like, he's admitting all the shit he's doing by acting like he's telling you he doesn't do it. I mean, if I did that, how would I do that? The way you just described it. And Joe Exotic is not smart enough to even do that. He's just saying, Joe Exotic on the backside of that is like,

yeah, we're like a cult. He's like a cult. We both have kind of cultish things. He's got a harem of four people. I got a harem of three people. What are we in our competition, whoa. He's got a harem of four people. I got a harem of three people. What are we, in a competition or something? He's got a harem of 27, 16-year-olds, and I'm banging two dudes. So then we end that episode with finding out that something once happened to the second husband of Carole Baskin. And that's where that ends.

And you were like, what a way to end it. I was like, great editing. Stick around. make a sound there's more Dumb People Town We thought we were in for a great episode It's totally okay if you guys liked that third episode more than I did. I thought it was good It was less for us to comment on and it was

just more like there was less crazy stuff except like it wasn't interesting but they glossed over the fact- But these are the problems with, in what I contend are, you know, documentaries that are, should be four episodes,

but they're seven episodes. Yes. Like the staircase. That's like the staircase. The staircase. But like episode 14 of the staircase, out of like 19 episodes, I was like,

bro, throw me down a staircase. I want my head to splatter. You're like, bro, throw me down a spare staircase. I want me, my head to splatter. Like I get it. It was an hour. I can't watch the lawyer talking about the case and showing me like, I literally felt like I went to law school when I sat through that much court.

I was on jury. Dan, what was your joke about the, all the us and the yaz in making a murder? If you cut all of Brendan, you cut all of Brendan Dassey, if you cut all of Brendan Dassey, if you cut all those out, how many episodes? Four episodes.

What was that, like 13, two seasons? So when you're making a document, I mean, it's funny because now we're in a thing. When you're making like a in the zeitgeist documentary for Netflix, you go seven episodes, seven, eight episodes. You probably have enough material for like six. And you have some tributaries,

six to tell or five to six to tell you a tight story. Right. And then you go on the tributary. A whole episode about Carol. But I think the point of this one, if I may, is to create Carolole Baskin and to shatter any image

that you think that she's clean and to create her or sympathy for Joe Exotic for trying to kill this woman if she kills someone else

well they started out by saying she has a bunch of volunteers that she doesn't pay and she makes and she on there said she makes tens of thousands

of dollars every month on the Facebook page and the YouTube page so why aren't you paying your volunteers? Like to me, that would be like comedy club saying like, we're not paying you.

No, you got to pay people to do their stuff because that's... But she's set it up that they feel like that's a privilege of theirs that they get to come and spend time. Yeah, but that to me, that was the attitude. Oh, I hate it.

That was the attitude of MTV in the 1990s when we lived in New York. We lived in New York. They're like, you're lucky to be here. You're lucky to be working for us. So they paid us to star and be the head writers and creators of the show. I think we did, how many episodes?

13 episodes? 14. 14 episodes. I think Randy and I each made, I don't know, whatever it was. Not necessarily. It was like $2,000 an episode, which for all the work you're doing, that's less than even just like being in something. It was like $2,000 an episode, which for all the work you're doing,

that's less than even just like being in something. It's less than being, like we did four jobs and we made nothing and there was nothing we could say about it because they're like, you're lucky to be here. You're lucky to be here. So that's the thing.

And for everybody who thinks, well, that's not that bad, take out that times two, but then also think like that might be your big job for the year. And it was our only job for two years. See, that's what I'm saying. And kept us from doing other jobs.

And they're saying on there, people aren't going home for Christmas. People are working there the whole time because they want to, because she set up this stratification that red shirts are down here. Blue shirts are up here. Royal blue shirts are over here. Navy blue shirts are over here. So before you can get a Navy blue shirt, something that's like maybe cost like,

which you probably have to pay for. But we should go there and wear Navy blue shirts. Her thing also of like, I don't even know their names until they've been here for five years. Don't say that. You should know their names. If you're not paying them,

then get to know them, dummy. Yeah. So I got really mad at Carol until she said she was raped. And then I was like, can't get mad at her. Can't get mad at her anymore. mad at her anymore to me that's where it all comes back to power so you had joe exotic that was treated horribly by his family and couldn't control the things in his life right so he wanted to create something he could control that's right right and then you

had um and then you had carol right who lost lost all this control. Very sympathetic to the fact that she's obviously one of my fucking idiots. Horrifying. But again, these animals are some of the most powerful things in the world. And if you can control them, then you control the narrative. To me, that's what it's all about.

That is. I agree. So as much as they make me hate her and wish I could get back to Joe Exotic, this is not the old adage of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Right. The enemy of my enemy is still an enemy

when it comes to time. Yeah, dude. Let me just say this. None of you should have these animals. I don't care what you're doing. These animals should be allowed to roam free in Africa. Should be allowed, or India, or wherever they come, China, wherever they come from.

These animals should be let loose in the wild to do their thing. Like, a rescue organization should be able to get these animals, foster them long enough to put them back into. But Carol,

you are not. You've got to get them out of there because you can't, either that, you just have to either get funding from a real place that's doing it and then you can help facilitate them until they get to that place.

But you can't be making money. And you can't have more than one or two. Like, like look, a zoo has one or two. I don't even love zoos, but I'll tell you this. I know where you are on zoos,

but I will say this for some people getting to go to a zoo and educate your children and have them. If it's a place where they can't live in the wild, I'm fine with it. It's a real sanctuary. But if it's just like, we wanted another penguin, then I'm like,

leave the fucking penguin alone. But let me ask you guys this. So before we run out of time here, yeah. What, where do you, you tell me what you think happened to Don in episode three. So I love that.

Just briefly. They talked about him being pushed out of a window into the golf. I know that was like, I was like, no, I'm like, this was like, this was like, no, no, dude in I was like, this was like, and who pushed him out?

This was like, no, no dude in the clown tie who kept getting lower in his chair. That lawyer is my favorite person. He was like, that was like the world's biggest baby. He was like a baby in an old suit. Literally.

Benjamin Button. Yeah. He was like, if Paul Dooley, he was the baby boss. If Paul Dooley lost his exoskeleton. Sure. Refund. Refund.. Sure. Refund.

Refund. Refund. So they, so that moment where they're like, yeah, I mean, somebody could have

just opened up the door and knocked him out and just pushed him out. That to me was like the moment in Rand University, the ESPN documentary about Randy Moss where he's like,

I just stomped on his neck twice and then that's it. And then he glossed over. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You stomped on a guy's neck. I just stomped on his neck twice and then that's it. And then he glossed over. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You stomped on a guy's neck. I just stomped on his neck twice and that was it. You should never stomp on anyone's neck once, let alone twice and don't gloss over it. That's the biggest thing that you'll ever do to anybody in their entire life is stomping on their fricking neck. That's insane.

So pushing someone out of the door and that's it. Like who did it? Was it the guy who was flying the plane? Who's he flying the plane with? But here's what really I think happened. He told everybody, Don told everybody he was going to Costa Rica. Yeah. I believe that's true. What if Don just disappeared on his own and is living down in Costa

Rica? You don't know that. Oh, so my thing is he told her, yeah, when I get back from Costa Rica, this is done. That's right. I'm moving this all down to Costa Rica. Yes. And you don't get any of it.

And you don't get any of it. And so she never let him leave. So she shot him. And she 100% fed him to one of those tigers. To one of the tigers. She killed him and fed him to the tiger. That is 100% what I believe. Where did all the blood go?

They ate it. I think she could have killed him and dropped him in the lake that they have. No one's dragged that lake. That's true. This whole septic tank theory, too. I'm like, Joe, settle down, Joe. By the way, her answers for all the possible theories that have happened over time that she's formulated are the same answers as Doc Antle in terms of that he's not a cult.

Let me list everything I did with saying I didn't do it. How could I do that? Why would they be smiling if they were in a cult? So before we get out of here too, we have to do two last quick things. We have to talk about another music video we got today called here. Kitty, kitty,

kitty, kitty, kitty, Joe exotic dressed as a priest, just as a priest, but with a black hat on, of course, because I guess he's pronouncing Don Lewis dead.

Yeah, you're probably right. He's the executioner. You're doing exotic logic right now. That's the name of these. They get the exotic logic. Something beyond exotic logic. So they get a fatter Carole Baskin. Fatter Carole Baskin.

Fat Baskin. And Fat Baskin is feeding. Fat Baskin is my favorite. By the way, she's not that fat. But I'm just saying, Fat Baskin is my favorite. By the way, she's not that fat. But I'm just saying Fat Baskin is my favorite. Bigger Baskin. It's my favorite. And that's not a judgment.

She's just technically a bigger Baskin. What if he's like, wait, we're going to need a bigger Baskin. Yeah, he is. So that person is feeding meat to the tiger. Then the tiger rips the tongs out. I was like. You're not getting those back. Try and barbecue with those now.

And then we, and was there a cliffhanger? Did we feel like there was much of a cliffhanger on this one? Really? I don't know. I think they just kind of wrapped it up. It was a detour that went far away from. It's a detour to cast doubt on Carol Baskin and who she is. Of which now I do have a lot of doubt. Like you think she killed her husband and fed her to the tiger i didn't like her from the

jump i you didn't like her from the jump i don't like that type of smile she's like hi hi like when i didn't like i didn't like her when she said how much money she was making on facebook and not paying her employees yep i know that's what bothered me about she could pay these people just on facebook and then keep everything else. So the other thing is that- Also, I'm like, how do we make money on Facebook? That's right. So the other thing is that I understand

why Joe Exotic really doesn't like her. I totally get it, because- But it doesn't make him any more right. I know you're not saying that. I'm just saying. I'm saying I get exactly where his anger is coming from. Not justified, but I get where it's coming from. You see the logic.

She's making tons of money. He's not making any money. He's got employees that he is like. He's going down to the gas station asking people if they want to take a chance. Which, by the way, was kind of nice that he took that one minute. $138.52. $138.52. God damn chance.

Remember when they asked him how many wives Doc has? He's like, I don't give a fuck. Old toothless Joe. Oh, and they showed the conditions they're living in there in Joe Exotic's place too. I know. Rat in the drawer. Probably going to be a song that he sings. There's a rat in the drawer and I can't feel her. And Dr. Pepper on the

chair. And I can't feel her no more. So much Dr. Pepper. And Big Red and Mountain Dew Code Red. But Dan, flavors of Dr. Pepper that I've never seen before. Yeah. Like I didn't know there was a mango Dr. Pepper that I've never seen before. Yeah. Like I didn't know there was a mango Dr. Pepper. What's Dr. Lavender?

All right, there you go, guys. That's episodes two and three. We are going to do episodes four and five on Thursday. We'll give you the time if we can get that all set up. Maybe wrap it up before the weekend's done.

Yeah, that'd be awesome. We'd love to be able to do on the weekend when everybody should officially be off and no other workday plans. Thank you guys for watching. Thanks for participating in this. It's just a fun community building thing that we're getting to do with

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