Dumb People Town - Matt Letscher - Got Your Belly Button!
Episode Date: December 7, 2018Actor Matt Letscher visits Dumb People Town to discuss a story in which a woman gives the gift of... her belly button. ...
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Hey townies, welcome to a Friday episode of
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Population you, Population Lesher
Matt Lesher.
Welcome to the show, buddy.
So excited to be in town.
It is so nice to have you in the town.
I've heard a lot about this town.
We were just talking about the movie that we did with you, Teacher of the Year, which
is still available on Netflix.
Is it really?
I think it is.
It's pretty good.
It should be on Netflix.
Why is our voice getting so high?
I don't know.
Keegan-Michael Key's in it.
He's great.
This is the comic register.
This is when you get funny. No, this is good. No, I don't know. Keegan-Michael Key's in it. He's great. This is the comic register. This is when you get funny.
No, I...
Jamie Kaler.
I loved doing the...
I loved what we did in that movie,
and I loved how it came out,
but you were fantastic.
You were the heart and soul of that movie.
You were the teacher of the year.
I was the teacher of the year.
Such a good actor.
Of the title.
Yeah, thank you.
Well, that was one of those things
that we just really pulled out of our ass.
I mean, it was shot on a shoestring and in a couple of days.
But did it come out?
Like, when did Her come out?
I think Her was after that.
So I just freaking out.
Yeah, seeing you, the high-waisted pants that you had to wear in Her.
Oh, my God.
I saw Her in the movie theater.
And when you...
Because you played Scarlett Johansson's...
No, Amy Adams.
Amy Adams' husband.
Husband.
That's it.
But you showed up with the high-waisted things
and the whole theater cracked up.
I know.
Everybody had the high-waisted things,
but mine were...
But my nipples.
Right.
They were so high.
It was such a visual thing
that I'm sure was never written in the script
to be a laugh out loud moment,
but it was amazing.
Yeah, and I don't think Spike ever writes
really laugh out loud moments.
I remember when I walked in with the wardrobe
and my hair was like plastered across my forehead.
She just kind of looked at me like,
okay, yeah.
Is he calm, dude?
He's so zen.
But he's so like, he's fun too.
Is he zen because he's already done so much's so like he's fun too is he zen because
he's already done
so much great shit
that like
yeah
maybe he said
like I'm already
in the pantheon
I don't have to impress
anybody
plus I know
I do everything
like he can literally
do everything
he can act
he can shoot it
he can act
he can edit it
he's like
you know doing it all
on a macbook
and a canon
on set.
It's crazy.
I'll say this about that movie.
He is a smart guy.
I'll say this about that movie.
That movie, and this is why I think movies are great.
It kind of reminded me why movies are great.
I could not stop thinking about that movie after I saw it.
And I'm like, okay, it's really hard to do a movie about the future.
Obviously, Idiocracy is one of my favorite movies of all time.
And the reason I bring it up is because I believe we're living in a world that's getting dumber than this podcast totally.
And so I think about it all the time about, wow, where are we heading towards this?
Like, how is Trump becoming Terry Crews' character?
You know what I mean?
Like, we're moving towards that.
But Her made me think about that a ton.
Well, Her, I feel feel like was a precursor
to like all the Black Mirror stuff
where you're like-
Very much so.
You know what I mean?
Like Her could have been like
the best expanded Black Mirror episode ever.
Like the one that like won every award and everything
because it really took it to the next level.
But even Black Mirror,
it still feels very like kind of sci-fi to me,
Black Mirror, when I watch it.
I mean, it's not that I can't relate to it or I don't find the people to be people,
but there was something about her that felt like this is really,
they talk about movies being in the not-too-distant future.
This really felt like it was in the not-too-distant future.
Slice of life.
Yeah, pretty much.
There's a last thing I'll say about it because we've got to get into a story.
There are countless times, times where i've been in new york and i watched people come up
out of the subway just looking at their phones texting and i'm like that's that movie yeah
that's what that movie predicted four years ago would happen and it's happening that's what we've
become that's what you look at any street scene and it's filled like people just looking at their
phone no one's looking at anyone else they're looking at their phone they're not interacting right now yeah we'll talk about other
projects that you have coming up because you constantly work and and rightly so but let's
jump into a story right here we go ready yes sent by seth kirk at movie seth 26 thank you seth
solid ending to your name there as well seth kirk could also be someone's last name like
dave seth kirk that's true i, like Dave Seth Kirk. That's true.
You know what I mean?
Daniel Seth Kirk.
Captain Kirk's nephew.
Or he could be a wide receiver from Texas.
He's on the ship and he's like,
where is Seth? I had to bring him on this
thing. Seth's in the mail room.
On the Enterprise. The Enterprise mail room.
Get him out of the thing!
This is one of these stories in town that I'm going to tell you guys right now.
It's kind of gross and off-putting, but no crime involved.
It's just one of the dumb things that happen in our town.
A lot of dumb stuff happens.
A woman removed her belly button and gave it to her ex-boyfriend as a present.
Is that a Van Goghian?
Removed her belly button.
There's no ring missing from that sentence? No. Removed her belly button and's no ring missing from that sentence
No
Removed her belly button
And gave it to her ex-boyfriend
So she had an outie
She had an outie
They're saying removed
To cover up a very gross thing that she did
Right
Like you don't just take off your belly button
No
You have to carve it out
You gotta spoon it out
Spoon it out
You need a melon baller
I need a melon baller.
There's a melon baller I got to get.
What do you need it for?
Did you know that I was trying to. We haven't bought honeydew in about a year.
I don't know where he's going for the melon ball.
I was trying to explain.
My kids started to talk about.
My youngest daughter was starting to talk about Van Gogh.
And we were talking about it as I was driving her in gymnastics.
And she's like, what did he do again?
It's like he cut off
part of his ear
and mailed it
to his girlfriend.
Yeah.
He mailed it to Mike Tyson.
To me,
I think what's amazing
is back in that day
that he,
in that day and age
where there isn't
like a stamps.com,
he got the correct postage.
It's unbelievable.
Because how heavy
is an ear?
You don't know. It's like, what do I put on? There's no weight for the ear. Like the ear goes, there is an ear? You don't know.
It's like,
what do I put on?
There's no weight for the ear.
Like the ear goes,
there's no ear weight.
It comes back to you
because there wasn't enough
and you're like,
do I care about this
the way I cared about it?
I put a one-frank stamp on it.
Well,
body modification fanatic
Polina Casillas Landeros
from Mexico
Sounds like a form of from Mexico underwent numerous
surgeries such as a back
corset which involves
piercings on either side of the
spine and
a split tongue.
She later decided to have her
belly button as it was
she later decided to remove
her belly button as it is
quote what makes us human what i don't think
that's what makes us human no longer wanted to be human yeah no yeah i um before she gave belly
button doesn't seem to me to be the part that makes us the most humanizing part of us so here's
a question i would ask matt lesher just if i saw him today. How is the season of Narcos Mexico
going right now?
That's a question.
This could be a story.
I would never
ask him,
how's your back corset going?
Right.
But this is like,
this does sound like
a spoiler for this season.
Right?
Oh, shit!
Episode 8!
El Chapo gives his belly button
to his mistress.
Yeah.
In that context, you're like, adorable, right? Give a little El Chapo. Yeah, button to his mistress. Yeah. In that context, you're like, adorable, right?
Give a little El Chapo.
Yeah, he went out of his way.
Well, she removed hers before giving it as a present to her then-boyfriend, Daniel Ramirez, in 2015.
Do you wrap it?
What do you send it?
I feel like it's something you can hang around your neck.
Right, but I'm saying, do you put it in a tiny Tiffany's box?
I think so.
You are the boyfriend.
Your response, even though you're horrified, try to sell her that you like it.
Here, I got this.
I brought this for you.
What is it?
What is this?
It's organic.
It looks very pungent.
Yes.
Open it up.
I'm looking.
You can't get that anywhere.
Hold it. There's only one place. Okay, I'm taking it out. Hold it. It's round. You can and take it. I heard it myself. I'm looking. You can't get that anywhere. Hold it.
There's only one place.
Okay, I'm taking it out.
Hold it.
It's round.
You can't return it.
It's pretty hard.
There's no Amazon.
Do you like it?
Do you like it?
What does it look like?
Do you like it?
It kind of looks like your belly button.
Yeah!
Oh, my God!
Do you like it?
Your voice got really high.
You do?
I love it.
I love it. I love it.
Love it.
Are you sure you love it because you're not like...
I'm going to replace my belly button with this.
I thought you were going to react a little differently.
Really?
It's a big deal that I did this for you and he's not even standing up.
You know he didn't react enough.
Well, following the removal three years ago,
she says she ultimately regrets her decision,
describing it as reckless and impulsive.
Yeah.
But the back corset and the split tongue was okay?
You took the one thing that made you human and you gave it away.
Wait, don't monkeys have belly buttons?
You're like Marcellus in Pulp Fiction.
That's what was in the briefcase, his belly button.
If that was true, I would love that.
The HR intern and tourism student.
Have you ever heard those words together?
She's an HR intern and tourism student.
You can study tourism.
I guess.
So tourism, super exciting.
You travel around.
You see the world.
HR, the opposite.
Human relations.
Hey, she's a person who likes extremes.
She's the one who has to book the conference room for the sexual harassment seminar that the company has had.
The HR intern and tourism student said, quote, I have always had problems with my family.
I was not very close with them at the time.
Do you think this brought you guys back together?
Oh, now it's making sense.
I've always had problems with my family.
She's literally removing her only connection to her mother.
Right.
She's cutting the final piece of the cord. She's literally removing her only connection to her mother. She's cutting the final
piece of the cord. Deep taking it out.
Deep. Body modifications
fascinated me. There's something very
transcending about them.
That doesn't even make sense to me. Quote, I was
very angry. I wanted to cut all
unions from everything and everyone.
Just change your name. Yeah.
This is the most Meisner thing
anyone could ever do. I wanted to dehuman meisner thing anyone could ever i wanted to
dehumanize myself in a symbolic way i wanted to do something controversial you know what that that
last part is all she needed to say forget all the other controversial yeah you just wanted to do
something controversial yeah otherwise just like deactivate your facebook account thank you i mean
that's it that's controversial go buy a different name and move.
You will then sever ties with everyone.
Go off carbs for a month.
Wouldn't it be great
if somebody was like,
why'd you do that?
I wanted to do something
controversial.
The Whole30.
Do the Whole30.
We're calling you Cookie now?
Is that what it is?
Kayam Pepper
and go on a cleanse.
Jeez.
Quote,
I underwent an operation,
which is in quotes,
which means
not an operation. Done by a professional. is in quotes which means it was not an operation
done by a professional not in quotes
that part should be in quotes
because no professional should sign off
on that
we do everything from liposuction
to belly button cut ups
but he gave me very bad
advice on how to take care of the trauma
so it got infected
if a guy or woman is willing to take your belly button off for fun,
don't expect to get good advice from them on any level.
Well, you know where I go for all my surgeries?
Mexico.
That's where I go.
If you're already there.
Narcos, Mexico.
Quote.
Narcos, Mexico.
It's not a place.
It is.
It is now.
It's a hospital show.
It's basically a general hospital.
Yes.
Ghost Mexico.
Quote, I was suffering.
I spent days in bed as if I were quarantined.
I couldn't stretch, push, stand up, or laugh.
Really, when you think about it, taking your belly button off is the worst place to get an injury.
You can't do anything.
Can't breathe.
Everything moves.
Can't stand up and laugh.
She can't laugh.
And she seems like someone who laughed a lot
She goes
I quote
I talked about her situation with her family
I love to laugh
I love
Quote
I mean you take that away from me
And what do I have
Who am I
Who am I
No wonder she was
She wanted to
Yeah
No wonder she wanted to
It gradually healed
I'm just a belly buttonless morose person
It gradually healed itself
But not 100
Per cent
Two words in this article
Then she said it will never close
Entirely
Those are emotional and literal wounds
Can she smoke out of it?
That's not a trick
She puts like that talking thing
She puts a dip in there
Is it a Super Bowl party trick? I mean, like... It's not a trike. Right, but maybe. She puts like that talking thing too. She puts a dip in there.
Yeah.
Is it a Super Bowl party trick with her now?
If you can eat out of it
or smoke out of it,
you're going to end up
in Ripley's Believe It or Not.
I thought he was talking
about like
chewing tobacco dip.
I did too.
I almost said...
Oh, yeah.
She's just...
Throw some school bandits
in there.
It'll feel real good.
She's no longer human.
She's a spit cup.
She likes snuff now.
Paulina, or Paulina, said she knew she wanted to give the body art to Daniel as an ultimate token of love.
By whose standards?
First of all, even if they're just yours, you need to check by what someone else's standards are.
I'm going to tell you something right now.
I've been married for 14 years.
What someone else is saying. I'm going to tell you something right now.
I've been married for 14 years.
I know that the thing that my wife is going to get me,
I will probably return.
Yeah.
Once in a while, I don't.
And that's pretty great.
And no one's feelings are hurt or anything.
No.
Like, you can't return.
You can't return a belly button.
You can't return a belly button.
I mean, there's only one place you can take it to.
Or like, what do you get for that?
Like, store credit?
Yeah.
Like, you're not going to get the full back.
What love language does this fall into?
Yeah.
What?
A piece of yourself.
This is what I would tell my daughters.
This is what I would tell my kids.
When I think about you, I cut myself.
That's sad.
No, but this is what I would tell my daughter.
If anybody cuts off a body part and wants to give it to you,
get out of that relationship.
Oh, I was going to say they're the one.
Is there any acceptable body part?
I mean, like a...
Fingernail.
Anything that's like you think, well, maybe...
By the way, Van Gogh, I'm going to go back to it,
cut off his ear,
and he is one of the best painters ever.
Those don't have to be related.
If you did Van Gogh,
ear probably comes up first in the Google search.
Like, it is one of the things.
I can find out for you right now.
It is one of the things.
You do it, Dan.
Van Gogh E.
If you do Van Gogh E.
Well, now you.
It's up there, is it not?
It goes.
Starry, starry night.
Ear is second to last
Oh okay
Anyway
It's probably Lou Vuitton
Is first
These are skewed
Probably because that's
What I'm searching for
All I'm saying
Oh Van Gogh like
On a Lou Vuitton thing
I guess
No but the point of it is
But it's in there
We're still talking about that today
Oh yeah
And he was one of the
Greatest artists of all time
So like
That is a
So she's always gonna be
Belly button giver
Always
Like if you told
For real if you told me That Kanye did this, I'd be like, yep.
Like this isn't some girl in Mexico.
I was saying some girl in Mexico the whole time.
The twist to the end of the article is that it was Kanye.
So I think what we've learned today is that Kanye West is a crazy girl in Mexico.
Yeah.
Lucky.
He's literally at that level.
She said, quote, I was very much in love with my then boyfriend.
He supported me through many difficult times, and he is one of the most influential people in my life.
That's great.
You know what he's not going to support you through?
This.
Yeah.
Quote, it was something I did in the spur of the moment.
Don't ever do something like this.
Should your boyfriend or girlfriend be influential?
Spur of the moment amputations.
Yeah.
Spur of the moment tattoos.
Spur of the moment tattoos are bad.
We were young and stupid, but that's the way I felt.
Now you're looping him in it with you?
Yeah, right.
We'll stop at the Wii.
I didn't know you were going to give that.
I did not ask for it.
All of a sudden, I'm a guy who just wants that?
No.
And if you can't find a card to go along with it.
Daniel.
Daniel Ramirez.
He's from northern Wisconsin.
I didn't want none of this from her.
We met.
I was, you know, I was born and raised in Mexico.
I love it down here in Jalisco.
But this ain't what I want, you know.
I came down to Oaxaca about 25 years ago.
I didn't ask for no belly button. I didn't ask her for nothing.
I was buying some main jangle cheese, and she rolls up,
and all of a sudden here I got a belly button
in my goddamn arm. I mean, Aaron Rodgers
wants to send me one. That's okay. It's all right.
But for Christ's sake. I mean, I do love him.
Him and I are young and dumb.
I'm part order of the Packers,
and I don't know why I suddenly have a
belly button in my arm. She says, quote, I put it in
a small bag along with a note
saying, I love you. It was very emotional.
A small bag. I'm picturing like a note saying I love you. It was very emotional. A small bag.
I'm picturing like a
little Ziploc snack.
Think about what type of bag
it is. I'm going to show you guys pictures.
These pictures will
also be on our Facebook. Stay with us.
Matt Lesher, Dumb People Town, Friday
episode. Okay, are you guys ready
for this? Welcome back to the show.
Our guest, let me just reset, Matt
Lesher, is on the new season of Narcos
in Mexico on Netflix.
Congratulations. You
always work, and I'm just so happy. And deservedly
so. I appreciate that. Thank you.
It's a good show. It's a reset
on the old show, so
new characters, new plays. It's its own series.
Yeah, it's its own series. Like when you go to Turn It On, and it
says Season 1, Episode 1, and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I already watched Season 1 with Narcos. No, this is its own series. Yeah, it's its own series. Like when you go to turn it on and it says season one, episode one,
you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I already watched season one with Narcos.
No, this is Narcos Mexico.
Yeah, yeah.
A few familiar faces pop up, but for the most part, it's all new people,
and it's really, really good.
I love that.
I just love that.
People love season one.
It was a big, big, big hit for Netflix.
And two.
Of Narcos.
And now we got Narcos Mexico.
Yeah, it's rad.
All right, let's see this.
Okay, you guys ready?
This is the after. All right, this is see this. Okay. You guys ready? This is the after.
All right.
This is what it looked like.
And I just realized.
Am I going to be afraid to see this?
No.
It's not that bad.
This is what I'm going to see before I die.
It looks like her belly button's out of focus.
But what I just realized is the tattoo, which I did not realize before, which is perfect
for someone who cut their goddamn belly button off.
And also it's true for every woman and man.
It says, my body, my choices.
My body, my choices.
Do you think that came after she was sick of talking about the belly button or before?
I think it's an after.
It's an after.
I think it's in shape.
It goes with it.
Because what else is it referring to if the belly button is there?
That's true.
Well, I remember she had needles in her back.
Is it weird when she's in this? button is there. That's true. Well, I don't remember. She had needles in her back. Oh, right.
So she was making choices.
Is it weird like when, you know, she's in Mexico, but the tattoo is in English.
Shouldn't that be in Spanish?
I don't know.
Mi Cuerpa.
Did we say she was in Mexico?
She is in Mexico? She is Mexican.
She's Mexican.
So why is she getting English?
I don't know.
Why do all these white dudes walk around Chicago have Asian words on them?
Mi cuerpo, mis decisiones.
Is that it?
Yeah.
Good for you, Rand.
Well, that explains it.
It was too long.
Okay, now we're going to look at this.
This is what she had taken off.
She would have run around to her back darts.
This is what she had taken off, that navel, that fuzzy navel.
Oh, God.
Am I wrong?
Okay, so on an earlier episode, there's a bar up in Halifax where-
Yukon.
The Yukon, where there's a petrified toe-
That they put in a drink.
Put in a drink, and you drink the drink and kiss the toe.
That is sort of like a thing that people do.
I know.
It's disgusting.
But we would all do it.
Should this belly button, shouldn't it exist somewhere
at a bar? Dan, I would not do it.
You wouldn't kiss the toe? When I was 23,
maybe I would have done it. Would you kiss
the toe? Absolutely not. Imagine yourself
you end up in this bar, you're with your
friends. I wouldn't do it, Dan. Come on.
Absolutely. We also did a story where a
woman cut her labia off and made it into
a necklace. I think that was the Tom Segura episode, but I'm not for sure.
It was a bracelet, but then if you rubbed it, it became a necklace.
Sorry.
Come on, Jason.
Okay, ready?
Here's the after.
This is what she handed Daniel.
And as a Daniel, I could say I would look at this and go, nope.
Nope.
Ready?
Oh.
And why is there a star in it?
Did she try to decorate it?
It looks like
She tried to decorate her belly button with a star
It didn't keep well
It's kind of
Not what I expected it to
Yeah, you got to put it right into
What is that?
Formaldehyde if you want it to keep well
It looks like a coral
It looks like
It looks like that one
That one french fry
That gets down in the grease for like a while
And it comes up and it's like really brown
And you're like
Is that Can we eat that?
That cheese that goes off the edge of the grilled cheese and really, really heats up.
Are we allowed to eat that?
The answer is no.
Probably you're not.
You really shouldn't.
Fruit leather of some kind.
It is like a fruit leather.
She said about Daniel, he has kept it and will keep it forever because he knows the
meaning behind it.
No.
What drawer in his house is this in?
And when you get a new girlfriend, what are you going to be like?
I'm not interested in her, but I got her belly button.
Yeah.
No, you got to give it back.
I got your belly button.
I got your belly button.
I literally have got it.
Where is it kept?
We don't know where it's kept.
He doesn't say.
I'm going to get Daniel on the line.
Paulina. Junk drawer.
Junk drawer scissors.
It's right next to a sharpie without a cap on it.
My old pocket knife.
Do you have a junk drawer in your house?
My house is nothing but junk drawers.
She could have a Mexican girl's belly button.
Absolutely. 100%.
Hey, there's my SAG card from 2003.
And her belly button.
Polina says that her relationship with her family has now improved.
Good for her.
Well, I do regret it when I put myself in my mom's position.
It must have been devastating for her.
She was so sad, she said.
Quote, I can't imagine how it must feel,
your own child wanting to break all their connection to you.
You just cut your goddamn belly button off.
You didn't run
away. I wouldn't be
sad. I'd be afraid. If my kid did that,
I'd want him tested.
A belly button closes in a door open.
If I could go...
That's the pillow this time.
If I could go back in time, I wouldn't do it again.
It was impulsive, reckless, and I hurt a lot
of people. She really is putting a lot of weight onto this belly button.
It's not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you, you're the only one who thinks about your mistake.
Even though I did it for the wrong reasons,
it has now taught me I should think things through before acting,
and it's a nice reminder that characterizes me.
I mean, I'm glad this helped you learn about thought process.
This was the reminder
you needed to think
things through
it was
there wasn't something
like
if you made your hair blue
for like a month
and everyone was like
that wasn't a great idea
maybe I shouldn't be
so impulsive
that's how you do it
agreed
that you don't cut
your belly button out
I'm gonna ask you guys
this though
how old
is Polina Casillas
Landeros?
Too much fun leaves marks in life.
Living hard, you'll pay
the price. Who is
gonna get it right?
Guess the age.
Guess the age.
We saw her stomach. This is a game
we play called Guess the Age, E-Matt.
You can go first. You are a guest.
You can go first.
You can go Tig, which is second.
Or you can go third.
Do you know what belly button is in Spanish?
What?
It's like the perfect name for belly button.
El ombligo.
Ombligo.
El ombligo.
There's a little circle.
El poquito el ombligo.
Mi ombligo es su ombligo.
Mi novio.
Tome.
Tome.
Take it. So do you want to go first? Tig or third? You choose. You're our guest. I'll go first. Imbligo. So do you want to go first,
Tig, or third? You choose.
You're our guest. I'll go first.
How old do you think Polina
Casillas Landeros is?
This might be controversial.
I don't know,
but it just feels right. I'm going to say
15. 15 years old.
This feels like an impulsive,
youthful, beautifully, Romeo and Juliet.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Only more romantic.
Yeah, exactly.
Only more passionate.
Jason or Randy?
Romeo or Cornell.
Okay.
Lewis.
Let me see.
I'm with you on the youth.
I do think she's older than 15.
I'm going to say 20.
20 years old.
I think she's 24. 24. I'm going to say 20. 20 years old. I think she's 24.
24. 24, I think she's
24. All right, townies, get ready
to give your answers while you're thinking about it. Do we have
any plugs we want to give around? I think this is
dropping right before our live Dumb People
Town at Largo. Does it drop on the 10th?
I believe so. Okay, if this drops on the 10th, December 10th,
we're doing a live version of this show at Largo.
100th episode of Dumb People
Town. Will Forte is our guest
Largo is one of the best
venues to see
any sort of comedy
I don't know if you've been
to Largo
I have yeah
no this sounds fun
it's a big room
we want to fill it
with as many townies
as possible
get your tickets
I'm sure there's still
a little a few tickets
left tonight
but come out
and then if you're
in San Francisco
we'll be there
at Sketch Fest
January 11th
which is the night
before our birthday
10.30pm
Cobbs Comedy Club
we're gonna do a stand up show
earlier in that night
with Dan
and I don't know
where that's happening yet
but we'll let you guys
know that
but definitely come
to the Cobbs show
it's gonna be awesome
wanna sell that thing out
nice
let's hear it
alright and watch Narcos
Narcos
Mexico
on Netflix
what's your character
Jaime
Jaime Kirkendall
oh
love it.
Badass.
He's a real dude.
He's a real dude.
Is he really?
Did you meet him?
I did, yeah.
He lives in Laredo, Texas.
Really?
Yeah, old school.
Have you been to Laredo?
I went and saw him down there for two days, yeah.
Amazing.
Yeah.
Can I just ask real quickly, do you feel more of an obligation to play him right?
Or did he give you, not right, but down to the T of who he is?
Or did he give you license to be like,
play the essence of what I was trying to do and you do you?
He actually never said a word about it.
He was really cool that way.
Really, the story is about Kiki Camarena,
who was the DEA agent who was tortured and killed in the mid-'80s.
And it's really the thing that kicked off the war on drugs.
He was his good friend and colleague,
and he wanted his story told right.
Does he love Narcos just as a show,
or what's his attitude towards it?
I mean, it's probably bittersweet.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Wrapped into horrible memories.
Yeah, he's got so many bad memories from that time
that I doubt he's watching our version of it very much.
But he knew it was a vehicle.
Still lives in Laredo.
Yeah.
Well, he's a Texas kid.
And right across the border from Laredo, Juarez.
Is that Juarez?
No, that's in El Paso.
That's El Paso.
No, but Laredo is like right there on the border.
Yeah, it's on the border.
Nuevo Laredo.
Nuevo Laredo.
Got it.
We had a friend that grew up there and used to like go.
Eric Friedman, our buddy, his wife, Katia,
like we used to like when they were teenagers would think about this,
knowing what you know kind of about that area.
As a teenage girl, someone who maybe would cut her belly button off,
I don't know, but like for a boyfriend.
We'll find out.
Would like go with her friends and cross over into the Mexican side
and just go out.
Well, you know, I lived in the Detroit area.
We used to go over to Windsor all the time.
So it's really...
Same thing.
You get it.
You drew on that a lot.
Yeah.
It was rough.
I don't want to get into that.
Talk about bad memories.
I know.
Okay, ready?
Yes.
All right, Tony, get your answers right now.
Because Paulina Casillas Landeros is 23 years old.
Oh!
I said 24!
Way to go!
Way to go!
I kind of knew her.
She was like, she's on the edge of being able to do that.
That was...
She was 20 when she did it then.
It was three years ago.
Right, so it was three years ago.
So I was right.
Yeah.
So you were right when she did it.
Right.
I was right about The inflection point
I think either
A 20 year old does this
Or like a crazy
Kathy Bates
Misery
54 year old woman
Does this
Either way
Either way
It's kind of in that
Crazy
In that pocket
That's a story gents
That is a great episode
Thank you guys
For listening to the show
Come see us at Largo
Then come see us
In San Francisco
Watch Narcos Mexico.
Follow Daniel Van Kirk.
Check his website.
And his website, danielvankirk.com.
Yes, sir.
See when he's coming to a town near you.
Same with us.
We've got lots of great shows.
Supersclars.com.
And, oh, shit, we've got to get back to work.
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