Dumb People Town - Tiger King: Where are they now?

Episode Date: April 17, 2020

Daniel, Jason and Randy discuss the final Tiger King episode.

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on your downies dumb people town hey townies welcome to a tiger king recap episode of dumb people town population you population us Joe to a Tiger King recap episode of Dumb People Town. Population you.

Population us. Joe. This one's for the animals. This one's for the animals. You think somebody ever yelled that while shooting a gun off at the zoo? Nope. This one's for the animals and then Joe shot the horse. So we watched

the... This is interesting. Where are they now? Yeah, just sort of the recap. It's the, that version of like after the Jersey Shore, they have like a reunion type of thing, but they weren't in the same place. They weren't in the same place and it wasn't combustible. They weren't attacking each other.

So when I saw, I saw Joe McHale trending the other day on Twitter and it was like, then I read through all of it and people were giving him so much shit because they're like he's making fun of these people. Well no shit. They are there to be made fun of and by the way he wasn't going in that hard. No.

He was making great jokes. Right and it's ridiculous. And he was in my opinion I'm watching that show going how would we have done it differently if we were given the chance to do the show. Not much. He was so funny. funny yes he was fast yes he did they all deserved to be needled at least needled for their participation he did an unbelievable interview with everybody he managed to act he like vacillated back and forth between being serious like talking about someone getting shooting themselves on camera yeah Yeah. To his reactions were real.

His reactions were real. And then his jokes were amazing. And he made fun of himself, dude, the, anybody who, this is how you determine who's an asshole and who isn't. Right.

If you had a problem with Joel McHale's hosting of that show, probably voted for Trump. We know you're an asshole. If you have the energy to write negative stuff about Joel McHale and you're protecting these people, I'm just going to say this in the nicest possible terms. You need to die. You need to fucking die!

COVID-19, go for it. Or get your hand bitten off by a tiger. Or get screwed over by these people and have your life ruined. I know, then see how you feel. Everybody seemed to show regret, but that's fine. Everyone was mad at Joe. Everybody seemed to show regret, but that's fine. And good. I'm glad.

I mean, how many times? Jeff showed no regret. Jeff showed no regret. Jeff Lowe showed zero regret. Right. Right. Except for how he regrets how they portrayed him.

Yeah. He regrets how, yeah. This is how you know Jeff Lowe's an asshole because he showed zero regret over anything, over the animals, the way the animals were treated, anything.

Yeah. Well, that goes against his current business model. His regret is that he didn't go after James Gerritsen. Who is the only person we didn't hear from. Yeah, we didn't hear from Gerritsen, man. I guess I was dying to see what his hair was looking like in this

pandemic. Oh my God. He's letting it go. He's like the third evil Gruden brother. He's like Chucky if Chucky went off a diet. He's like if type two diabetes had legs and hair. So a lot of people should regret my thing about that, though, is like all these people. Hey, they obviously realize that's great, and I'm happy for them that they came to that conclusion that it was wrong what they were doing. My opinion of them is based off a literal documentation.

That's right of them not having that regret of the actions and things that they did do. That doesn't mean people can't change. And I hope to God that they did. But regardless, if you participated in what happened in that zoo, like you get shit on for that for a long time, if not ever. Dan, I've done a lot of thinking about the Tiger King and about the situation. And really, it comes down to poverty and desperation. That's what it is. Well, those people, a lot of them didn't have anywhere else to go

and couldn't get another job. And neither did Joe. And this is my argument. They could have been heroes by turning him in. Right. But so what Joe, and it's poverty, desperation, plus stupidity. Sure.

That is a perfect storm for what happened. Sure. You got this guy who's stupidity. That is a perfect storm for what happened. You got this guy who's stupidity. I could take a bunch of tigers and turn it into a zoo and make some money. That's all he thought. He didn't plan ahead. He didn't say how much is it going to cost

to keep a tiger alive. He didn't say, do I have enough space on my land to take these tigers on? And then all of a sudden it started costing money to keep these tigers alive. So it's like a drug habit. So it's a drug habit. So the only thing he could do was get more tigers, get more tigers, breed the tigers, sell those tigers. So now he's making some money and he's got more tigers and the people can, Oh, they want to hold the tigers because they're real

little. Okay. We can make some money off that. And then we can give away the tigers and we breed some more tigers and make some more money off the tigers. And then we have a gift shop and people buy this stuff in the gift shop. And all that was, was to serve him so that he could make some money, serve the ego and then the stupidity. And then all of a sudden he gets into a lawsuit

with this woman. And you see that it's a house of cards. And as soon as he starts dipping to the poverty line in his whole life with the government run and with the Carole Baskin stuff, then that's when he starts getting desperate. So the reason that Carole Baskin threatened his ability to continue to make money,

because Carole Baskin's like, I'm going to take away your ability. I'm going to take away your zoo because what you're doing is wrong. But what's insane and what a smart person would do would be like, oh my God, I'm in over my head. Smart person, if Joe Exotic was an intelligent person, not even if you have a woke person,

intelligent person would be like, oh my God, I'm in over my head. So a jerk, an asshole would be like, let me sell this to another guy and get out while I still have some money. That's what an asshole does. A good person is like, holy crap, I made a mistake. I thought tigers were, it's like why people have kids

and they're like, I just want a baby. Well, you know what? That baby turns into a teenager, into an adult, and that's a whole life. So he realized, oh my God, I didn't realize this was a lifelong commitment. I thought tigers die after three years. I don't know what his dumb mind thought.

And he's like, oh shit, I have this situation on my hands right now. What I need to do is talk to an animal rights, whatever, dumb mind thought. And he's like, oh shit, I have this situation on my hands right now. What I need to do is talk to an animal rights, whatever, give all these tigers away, take the money I've made out of this thing

and go away. But his ego, because he became the quote unquote tiger king. I mean, ego is everything. And by the way, Rick Kirkham had a hand

in that building the ego because I'm sure when Joe asked him about it sure when Joe- And Joe asked him about it. And when Joe Exotic would go down to sleep at night, he'd say, at least there are people interested in doing a show about me. I got a web show.

I got a TV show. Carol Baskin's doing her own show about herself. All those cool cats and kittens. That's right. But at least there's a guy who wants to do a show about me. I'm going to be famous based on this show. Yeah. And so that fame stoked what Jay was talking about.

So it all, everybody had a part in this. And you look at Saf and you're like, Saf is never, he's never going to stand up and say, this is wrong. He seems the most loyal to Joel. Cowie hated him. And Cowie is never going to stay. Cowie's the one who brought the tigers over

so that he could shoot him. He's never going to stand up because Cowie hated him, and Cowie is never going to stand. Cowie's the one who brought the Tigers over so that he could shoot him. He's never going to stand up because Cowie's like, what else am I going to do? Yeah, this is how I'm getting food, and I got a roof over my head. Otherwise, I'm going to die out in the cold. What's the one guy's name, Eric? Is that his name, the first guy with the long blonde hair? Who was the first?

Eric Cowie. Cowie, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's him, right? Last name, Cowie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He talking about they used me to help kill the time. Like, you did that's him. Yeah. Yeah. He he talking about they used me to help kill the time like you did that. You did it. You could

have you're not absolved of this just because you were told this isn't a few good men. You're like who ordered the code red. Yeah, you're you're part of it. You're part of it. I understand that you couldn't say and I wish he would have admitted like I'm a weak person. I should have. That's who Joe picked. I'm a sucker for vulnerability.

That's why Joe went to the bus station and got these ex-cons and got these people. I understand that they were all in a place, but decisions are still made. And trust me, I'm speaking as a person who's made the wrong decisions in my own life. I am no better. I'm better in these

exact examples. Dan, you have a moral compass and these people do not because a lot of them, but maybe I have easier choices, but I've made bad choices too, but I have to live with those just like they do. That's all I'm trying to tiger that gets shot. If you're working on that, I wouldn't even be there with the tigers. I'm just saying first time. Let's say you get swindled all the way through that point.

I'd be departing that I'd be Leo on the inside. I'll break. You can break my hand and I'll still help. I know help you until I take down these tigers. Get them out of there. Stick around. Make a sound. There's more Dumb People Town. So, you know, just seeing everybody like

seeing Jeff Lowe, quote unquote, in on the joke and doing Joe Exotic impressions and stuff, that guy, in my opinion hasn't paid enough like he has still living. He's got to go to jail. He's he can I got to go down and hard. That was the most

I don't know if shocking is the right word, but the biggest like whole shit moment of the nanny. The nanny was real. Come on. A hundred percent. Did you guys think on some level that was a bot real when he was when he showed that in the documentary in episode six or seven, whatever that was, I was like, well, that's a fake person who's trying to swindle money out of people.

That's like a Nigerian prince situation. That woman was real, and she's there with their kid. Well, the only reason that it's okay is that the wife, I think, is hooking up with her too. I'm just amazed that that woman was real. I can't imagine. That nanny was real. I can't imagine. Is real. I can't imagine just amazed that that woman was real. I can't imagine. It was real. I can't imagine.

It's real. I can't imagine that's a good nanny. Just can't imagine. Cause there's too many like other things happening. Too focused on. Guys, she's really good with setting limits. She really,

she'll, she endures through break. There is no, she lets a kid have the full meltdown and really experience her feelings. We are judging a book by its cover, but sometimes you're right on about that book. My thing is this. It is okay to look at something

and say it's unlikely that X is true. I'm willing to be surprised. Maybe she is, but door is open. Sure door is open, but the screen door is closed, but that's a bad man, but the screen door is closed. And I'm just

saying it is unlikely that there's a bad nanny. The door is open, but the screen door is closed. The screen door is closed. And I'm just saying it is unlikely that there's a lot of like very professional early childhood development education going on. Going on right there. Right. I would love to be wrong. She subscribes to the Rye method. She very much backs off and lets the kids work out their own situation. That's fine. I would love to be wrong.

That guy, in my opinion, needs to go down. It needs to go down harder. But he's not going to. For what? He might. You never know. There would love to be wrong. That guy, in my opinion, needs to go down. It needs to go down harder. But he's not going to. For what? He might. You never know. There's still stuff out there. And I feel like Joe Exotic, once he realizes he's not making it out there alive,

that was a really interesting thing that Josh Dowell said. He ain't going to make it out alive. Getting the Montessori method. Oh, Rick Kirkham said that. Oh, Rick Kirkham said he's not going to make it out alive. And that's the truth. He's not going to make it out of that cell alive. And that's Jen Kirkman's dad? Kirkham. he's not going to make it out alive. And that's the truth. He's not going to make it out of that cell live. And that's Jen Kirkman's dad.

Kirkham. Oh, sorry. And one of the things that he, one of the things that I think he's going to do when he realizes that it's over for him in there. Joe is he's going to offer up. You don't think he's already offered up. I think he's offering another opportunity for him to be the star,

whatever real information he has on Jeff or fake information. You think that would, you think the real thing would hold on to prove it. Jeff Lowe Jeff Lowe's going down in my opinion. He's he's a really bad dude and he's going to you think Jeff how come they couldn't get Doc Antle on here? How good do you think Jeff Lowe thinks he is at poker? Jeff Lowe thinks he's great at poker. Jeff Lowe loves calamari.

He loves calamari. Only always orders marinara extra marinara. he's great at poker. Devlo loves calamari. He loves calamari. Fried, only though. Always orders calamari. Marinara, extra marinara, fried calamari. He loves to tell you the best place to get calamari in Oklahoma. He loves that. He always orders Long Island iced teas,

but he just calls them one of them whiskey iced teas. He doesn't have to get patted down when he goes to a strip club in Vegas. He wears American flag underwear all the time. All the time. All the time. Old glory. And he knows his bandana size. the time. All the time. All the time. All the time. Old glory. And he knows his bandana size.

He knows. That's right. Is there only one size? Yes, of course. Jeff Lowe with the bandana on looks, I'm not joking, 25 years younger than he looks. And with the bandana on, he looks 62. He looks stupid. Do you think he was angling for the Affliction sponsorship

to get a bunch of merch sent to him? He's got to be a brand ambassador. Dan, here's the crazy part. And this is what's insane. I don't know if this is sad or positive or whatever. I do think these people, I know they're all on Cameo. I know they're, I'm certain Rick Kirkham can walk around and do and get, I'm sure someone has got him as an agent,

has an agent and he will go around and he could speak everywhere. Not now. But I was wondering that too. But Cameos, Dan, Cameos people just pay. We're on Cameo, guys. We're on Cameo. If anyone wants to book us, we're on Cameo.

No, but like these guys are on Cameo guys. We're on Cameo. If anyone wants to book us, we're on Cameo. No, but like these guys are on Cameo. Like if they get a thousand requests at $50 a request or $150 a request, there's a very good chance that in the course of a week or two, they could, or it'll all be done in a month. It will be done in a month. But some of these people who've never had a pot to piss in,

maybe they can pay their debt off. Or donate it all to some tiger. Eric Cowie should use it to get himself some teeth and get out of his situation. Or just get a house. I don't think, in the words of Eric Cowie, I don't think he gives a fuck. He doesn't. But if you don't want questions about you doing meth, get some fucking teeth. Now, let me ask you this before we get out of here.

We didn't hear from Prince Charles. But if you don't want questions about you doing math, get some fucking... Now, let me ask you this before we get out of here. Yeah. Do you... We didn't hear from Prince Charles. We didn't hear from Doc Antle. We didn't hear from that cool cat and kitten, Carol Baskin. And we didn't hear from Don Lewis. We didn't...

Nobody's heard from Don. He rested. Now, here's my question. We didn't hear from the Hitman guy who... He did, no? Yeah, he's scary. Old bathtub Jim. Yeah, bathtub.

Alan. Yeah, bathtub Alan. He's old bathtub. Jim Allen. Yeah. Bathtub Allen. Here's my question. Do you think a, they turned it down or are we going to get another followup? I guarantee you, they turned it down.

You don't think doc Antle wants to talk? I know. Doc loves to talk. You know, any more women he could get just off another doc Antle. Doc Antle is like a lot of the corner of the rug has been pulled up on Doc Antle. And he's like, if I can keep this rug down,

I can maybe lure a few more women out here. Because he's essential business in Florida, right? He is. If WWE is, he is. He's like, if I get out there more and there's more to expose or I say this thing or that thing. Then I'm screwed. Then I'm screwed.

What about Carol? Carol, I think it's- She saw how much the light got pointed at her and what she did to expose or I say this thing or that thing. Then I'm screwed. Then I'm screwed. What about Carol? Carol, I think it's- She saw how much the light got pointed at her and what she did to her husband. Carol is the winner of this documentary. Now, I still think she's a terrible human being. She is the winner of this documentary. Why?

Because she is painted as one of the animal rights activists, even though her zoo of her stuff is, she makes money off of it too. She says it's not for profit. Well, she says it's to pay for the cats and to give them what they need. And she is without, she's not

this, other than the fact that she probably killed her husband. She is without reproach on other things. I just stomped on his neck twice. I just pushed him out of a Cessna plane. I just drove his car to the Gulf of Mexico. And I don't know if I said this. If I did, I'll say it again.

American Butcher on Instagram sent us video of the same exact meat grinder Carol has, and you could definitely put a person in there. You can find him at American Butcher if you want to ask him. Oh, and order his beef sticks. Order his Don Lewis jerky. It's unbelievable. No, his food of order. His Don Lewis jerky. It's unbelievable.

No, his food is unbelievable. That's it, guys. Yeah, that's it. And I hope I hope there's no more. I don't. I hope so, too. I can't go back. That should wrap it up for us.

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