Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 303: Shawn Pelofsky
Episode Date: September 1, 2018Shawn Pelofsky, comedian and 1/10 of the jews from Oklahoma, joins the DTFH as Duncan continues his wanderings through the fields of grief. Shawn Pelofsky’s one hour comedy special STRETCH IT OUT...! is now available on Amazon, iTunes, On Demand, Xbox, Google Play and Fandango Now. [Buy it on Amazon](https://amzn.to/2Nb2oBC) [Buy it on iTunes](https://apple.co/2O8XAfP) Check out Shawn's site: [hahachick.com](http://www.hahachick.com/) This episode is brought to you by [Squarespace](https://www.squarespace.com/duncan) (offer code: DUNCAN) and [Stamps.com](https://www.stamps.com/) (offer code: DTFH).
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Hello, this is gonna be another episode about death and I get it. I know that for many of us
Just the very topic of death just the very word death acts like garlic to a vampire it acts like one of those new
bat
repellent horns people have been hanging on the side of their house to keep the bats away
Which holy shit man not to like totally go off on a completely different topic
But I don't know if you guys have been reading about the swarms of bats that have been descending on people's homes throughout the Midwest
It really is a
Shocking thing that teaches us so much about the unexpected effects of climate change. We've got
Toddlers being carried off by bats. They found three young children who just
Had their breakfast in a bat cave the bats had already started putting some kind of fungus on
Them which to keep them warm. I don't understand it
But when people were talking about climate change one thing I didn't expect
Was that the bats would start trying to steal and raise our children?
We've got to really stop emitting fossil fuels or we're gonna end up having bat caves just filled with
Toddlers and who knows why would they stop with the kids swarms of bats?
I don't know how how many bats it takes to carry away a dog
But I bet it's not that many
In a grandfather. I don't know how many bats to carry away a grandfather probably a lot
But we just we don't want anything, you know, you don't want anything to be carried away by a bat except for bats or bat food
That'll be the subject of an upcoming podcast with bat expert
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Death it's a force field. It's like the
As I as I continue to sort of
Ride down the river of grief
And I sure as hell hope I don't sound like I'm like simpering or something like that because that's that would number one
I haven't simpered in a while and I love simpering when it happens, but
uh
Or feeling sorry for myself because I certainly don't
but uh it when you are in grief when your parents die this like
It's true that you enter into a zone that you don't stay in
forever even though sometimes it might seem like that and
it's
interesting to watch the way my mind is reacting to it and just all the sort of ideas bubbling up out of the
stinking peep moss swamps that is my subconscious and the fucking dreams are wild man the way you're
uh subconscious minds start sending you these beautiful little letters to sort of
Help you understand
uh
What's going on down there and the subterranean layers of the south
And uh, it's mostly good
but it's weird and
I think because of the laws of attraction and the basic sort of
Tendency to draw people to you that are at your same frequency. I've been having the
real
Good fortune of uh having phone conversations with people who have also lost people recently
And i'm fine, you know, there's a lot of stuff you start finding out. It's like
My what I have a pregnant wife a beautiful wonderful pregnant wife and
Uh
Now I've got like a backstage past pregnancy. I I didn't know so much about pregnancy like I had no
idea
That pregnant women
Gained the ability to shoot lasers out of their eyes that can cause pretty pretty not like third degree burns
But definitely burns the skin. I also didn't know that uh pregnant women have uh the ability to
Walk through walls. I didn't know that pregnant women could teleport all these things somehow. They just don't make it into the books about pregnancy
Uh and a lot of things other things about pregnancy
Maybe they make it into the books, but you don't hear about it for some reason, which is like pregnant women suffer, man
They suffer it's a it's a it's a really
Your body is just like suddenly becoming an
An apartment to a new consciousness like it your stomach suddenly becomes like a bachelor pad
You know, you suddenly if you're having a boy, there is like an action. There's a
A a baby penis is in you now and a baby
A baby and I got a big a baby like a big head
you know
Yeah, and it's uncomfortable right and um
It's like wow having a it's it's if you're a selfish person if you have selfish tendencies, which I certainly do
Then uh pregnancy becomes like a pull-up bar for selflessness
Because it's like
You're you know, it's you got now you got your wife who has trusted you enough to let you
you know
blast
life producing seed into her
putting her into a semi debilitated
progressively debilitating state
I saw this cartoon where like a baby is like a funny cartoon where a little baby's like punching a
Like hugging a bladder
That's what happens the the baby just pushes down on their bladder
They can get like some sciatic stuff. There's like it's just uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable
um
It's uncomfortable
And you don't hear a lot of you know for some reason you know, I don't know
Maybe it's just because I I haven't paid any attention to pregnancy
throughout my life
None there's as far as I'm aware. There's no pregnancy channel
You know
And there's no real courses on it. I don't think there are probably but I mean
I was I it's a long time since I've been in high school and let me tell you if I had to sit through like
Here's what to do with a pregnant wife class. I would have
tuned the fuck out
For the whole thing because I would have thought I'm never gonna get married
or have a baby
So there's all this stuff and the same is true for death
Like there's all this stuff that like that you just you just don't hear too much about and talking to all these people
Either you realize all these things one people feel isolated
You know, they're like people who are grieving. They just feel isolated because
they either have like
siblings that they can talk to you but a lot of times because death is so
unbelievably the death of a parent is so unbelievably apocalyptic
Uh, it it it can like create some real rifts in families
Because some people like
I one of the ways I keep picturing death is like a windshield
that
language just
Smashes against like bugs, you know, like logic smashes against it
Like just a it's like a fucking truck windshield and the the flapping duck of logic comes
emerging
Into the highway of the time space continuum and death just like
smacks right into it splatters a little rational logical duck guts
All over the fucking
All over its windshield just turns on the wipers. It doesn't fucking care. Yeah, man
The grim reaper man driving a truck filled with dead bodies
Smashing into logic ducks. That's what I'm talking about. That's what death is
And so, you know people when they run into it
Steam comes out their ears, you know, and except the way the steam comes out their ears is they
You know, they they have they react. I react everyone will react. There's no way to not react to it
It is like we can't get past it
like
I mean the thing I keep thinking about is like poorly designed video games, you know, like uh
A poorly designed video game. You're playing this guy. He's fucking muscular. He's got like
Fucking guns or swords
You know, and suddenly you're like find yourself at a fence
That's like maybe waist high
And beyond the fence is just this like beautiful expanse
And you just can't go over the fence and you think to yourself, man, that's bullshit
Like this dude was just like blowing up cars. He can't go over the fence. This is ridiculous
and if the character was sentient and had sort of
gotten the idea that that he was a free roaming autonomous
Being and suddenly slapped into a force field that he couldn't go past
Then it would drive him nuts. It like that we had an ai living inside a simulation
It would drive the ai fucking up the goddamn wall
Probably to have to deal with the fact that there were certain zones that it couldn't cross beyond like why?
There's not there's this membrane
You know, remember that show under the dome, which is a based on a book a steven king book
Where like suddenly this like sort of force field appears around a town you just can't go past it
And that's what death is only it doesn't appear as a sort of geophysical location. It's like
It it's something that appears in in time and it appears it the moment that
Our our consciousness leaves our bodies and so
Uh, it's just we can't understand it. We don't know what's past it. It's a force field. It's a wall. It's a veil
It's whatever you want to call it a fucking
The difference between air and water or or or or this or you know earth and sky however you want to put it
This is a zone
That everyone will cross through but we
Can't and so grief
and
all seems to be
combination of like
The slow metering out of heartbreak, you know, it's like your body sort of allowing yourself to release the the the sort of like growing realization
of the
impermeability
Of this particular zone, which is you're not going to text the one who has passed
you're not going to
Talk to the one who's passed you're not going to touch the one who's passed
Ever again in this physical form at least as far as we know and me just saying that I can feel it. It's like a
Bubble it's like a you can feel this thing in you that just rolls through your whole body of sadness when you when you think about that
and it's like physical and the quality of it is like not
Unpleasant that's the really interesting thing that there's a sweetness to it. It's this love. It's like all the love
It's the
This is you know, one of the things christian had asked told me once
the longing
Is the grace and the longing not just for god or for realization or for
Someone that you're missing or for someone
But but also for someone who has passed
Is a strange type of connection a sort of psychic tendril that
I think
sort of
Goes out of the time space continue them and connects directly with those that we have lost and that feeling
That's sweet feeling. That's the communication. I think
it's the
great eternal message that
All of us in our own way are forced to either confront or ignore
Which is that everything is perfect
and that
Source god whatever you want to call it
God is good
and um
You know, you can read all these various stories book of job. You can read the Taoist interpretations of this, you know, like uh
Hey, uh
God, I'll fuck this story up. Like there's some dude who's like, uh
uh, I guess a farmer and
He uh his son is like helps him around the farm and his son falls and breaks his leg
And it's a disaster because who the fuck's gonna help him around the farm and so his neighbor is like, oh my god, this is
This is terrible
And the farmer says to his friend, we'll see we'll see
and then
uh, some soldiers come by
And they're like enlisting people for some war
And they're like give us your son. He's gonna join the military. You could go into these brutal battles
But his son has a broken leg so they can't he can't be enlisted. And so his neighbor is like, whoa, what great luck you have
and
The farmer says we'll see we'll see
And the point is it's just this like
that the all the stuff that happens in time
Is somehow
Simultaneously incredibly important and yet
Abjectly meaningless
Like on the level of time, it's the most important thing. We must love each other and be kind to each other and compassionate to each other
And somehow coexisting with this
Is this
Sense that all of this stuff that we're in is just like vaporous fog being blasted out of a
A smoke machine and some kind of interdimensional
Dance club that we call human reality and and it's like it's cool and it's beautiful, but it's
to become too
obsessed with the light show
is to
miss out on the music and the music seems to be
emanating in
Through a speaker that is connected to something outside of time. What the fuck did that mean?
And that's what happens the window opens up and you see it. It's like
We're you know, if this is as some say spaceship earth
When someone dies for a second the
The the door the doors of the spaceship quickly open up
and shut
and when they open up
You can kind of like see
And when I say see I mean see in the way that you see without eyes
And you and and and and you can hear and when I say here, I mean the way you can hear without your ears
Because this thing is outside of time
and so you get this like
You brush against something
That is so spectacularly
Beautiful enormous spacious expansive
Lovely
That you find yourself in this curious predicament of being
heartbroken
But also inspired
And that is
a
pretty great place to be in
and uh
Though I don't think I don't necessarily want to stay here for forever
I'm I'm not like gonna rush out of it and besides it doesn't matter
You're not gonna make you can't control it. So that's what all the people I've been talking to
In my therapist and you know grief counselors are like, yeah, it's gonna come and go
There's you can't do much about it. You're gonna be numb. You're gonna feel fine. You're gonna be heartbroken
You're gonna be manic. You're all the shit and it's cool. The best thing is just to be like, okay, that's just this is where I'm at right now
You know
Some days you're gonna be fucking
You know nick drake and some days you're gonna be paul simon
If that makes any sense, that's a 44 that's what a 44 year old would say
Anyway, it's
Bad, but it's not the kind of bad that people who haven't lost their parents think it is
That's the hopeful part and I wouldn't even call it bad
It's just a sort of unexpected education
That I'm experiencing and because of that
um, I'm gonna be talking about it a lot in the podcast and uh
And and and I hope y'all understand that I'm talking about it not in the way that in the past
I have edgelord did as they say
And it been like
You know just because you want to be shocking or some shit
But my feeling with it that this is like maybe even more shocking than that which is like it's not
I guess
The best way to to say it is to quote ramdas
As always who said dying is completely safe
And the great controversial thing to say is like there's really truly nothing to worry about when it comes to death
Like all the worry meant all the fucking worry about death. Oh god. I put so much
fucking psychic energy into the bank account of
fear of death throughout my life
Jesus Christ
I would be the fucking I'd be a rupert murdoch of like death
billionaires based on all the fear I'd put into that
imaginary bank vault
and and
to like have that sort of
Paradoxically the fear of death go away just by what we know watching someone pass who you've known your whole life
It's it's a really fascinating thing. You're like, oh, it's I guess that's the other the gift they give you when they leave
When they head over and uh, and I don't like you know, we have to use terms based in the time space continuum because that that's where we're at
We use terms based on three dimensions. So they went here or they went there. I don't think that's really good descriptors, but
We're in time right now. So we have to use those words
But it's almost like when the bay door opens and your dad or mom
drops their body and sort of
graduates
it's almost like, you know in in movies where
The the fucking door opens. There's this vacuum and all the shit gets sucked out of the spaceship
Actually, you know that an alien I don't want to ruin it if you haven't seen alien. What the fuck?
In alien they open up that pod door. I think she opens it to try to get that little skitter and
Cunt out of there
I don't remember exactly. I think she had to throw like something at it or I don't remember how she got the bastard out but
the
This door this thing opens up and sucks out a bunch of stuff
And not only does it suck out your parents
But I think it also pulls some of your own darkness with it like some of your own density
it's like that's the gift you're
You're you're the one you love when they leave. They're like, hey, let me uh, what let me take your trash
Let me take out some of your trash
And then it's gone and so there you are grieving missing longing yet simultaneously a little lighter than you were before
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More mystery at all. Did you watch all those?
Which ones? There's like a million. Yeah, but when the 20 year anniversary came around
There was one that I think was like two days worth
Where detectives got together and they brought in experts
That handle trials and cases and murder cases. So they brought in like
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I know you're talking about and and scripture and handwriting and in the end
They all came together and decided that it really it came down to that it was the brother and that that was crazy. Yeah
Yeah, I you know the the fascinating thing about those kind like
It's weird when you get a celebrity
Murdered person, you know, like somehow their murder
Propels them into infinite fame. Yeah, and in the fame god, I hope that doesn't happen
That's not what please god. Yeah, I've worked so hard. I mean, I guess like TMZ can't get to you, right?
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True crime murder porn is any time you find yourself watching a detailed account
of someone's uh murder
and and you what you're and now it also that it's also in the continuum of um
Uh, okay, so like in the old days we had freak shows. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So if you were bored, I guess you go to a carnival
and for
50 cents, right? Yeah
You go to a fucking freak show and it's like the dude bites the head off the chicken
the fucking um
The the the the person who has too much hair on their body the mummified jewish guy
The the fucking uh, um
The uh
What are some other freaks that are classic like the the bearded lady? Yeah
Uh, you know, and they're just called a freak show. Yeah, and then people would pay to watch those and then
That was that was the entertainment. Mm-hmm
You'd go in you'd sit in a seat with no guilt at all. Yeah, I guess
And these people who are just people. Mm-hmm people with
Hydrocephalic people or people missing limbs or whatever
People missing limbs that maybe have like a mermaid's tail attached. Yeah wheeled out on a stage
Maybe they'd sing a little song right or like the the elephant man that whole story
You know with the john maryk and the you know, and he has the he has the the uh
The bag over his head. Yeah, like do you know what I mean? He had that like it was like a sack
Yeah, that he had he cut and as a kid when I watched the elephant man movie
I was mesmerized by that one of the best movies of all time
It was mesmerized because it just you know, he was and it was his fork
You know, it was like I'm not you know in the way that society treated him
Yeah, like really pulled a heart string in me and that was real
I mean, that's like what it used to think if you were like that your chances in society were like not that great
So how do you make money you go to the fucking carnival?
You and you start working in the in the freak show and then suddenly you have the camaraderie of other people who have been
Sort of ostracized by the normal genetic symmetry and then at least you have a family and so anyway
Now we can't do that. So like if like the learning channel
Had a show called parade of freaks. Yeah, and put the exact same people
That they put on their show
In an informational as though it's like an informational thing, you know, like hoarders. Yeah, you know
And so we sit and watch hoarders and we pretend
Yeah, because the narration is being done in a kind of like info way like
You know what I mean though the the should the story is being told in a kind of like
But it pulls you in because it's something different and maybe something that
That that your
That is nothing close to the way you live or your lifestyle and it's unfathomable to think that some people could actually
Live like live this way. Right. So, yeah, I could there's a total attraction in that. Right. Did you have did you ever watch the show obsessed?
That was on a&e. Wait, wait that one was about people with a ocd. Yes
Yeah, I saw I think I saw that I saw some episodes of that
That's the like the people who eat sofa cushions and stuff
They do that, but they also like there was a guy who was so afraid of germs
He didn't have any trash cans in his house and whatnot and they bring in this
Cognitive behavioral therapist and she says and he's like this interior decorator and palm springs named scott and
She makes scott. She she comes out of the bathroom and she's like scott
This luck would have it. I was on my period and I used the towels in your bathroom to wash my hands
So um and you can just see like scott's head sever into gay space
And she takes him into the bathroom
Which he's already like mortified that she you know had taken her vagina in there whatever she had done
And she makes him you take the hand towel and put it to his face
And she's like scott scott put the towel on your face. He's like I can't I can't she's like put the towel to your face
So he puts a little towel to his face and she's like scott
She's like what what do you feel and he's like
I feel uh endometriosis
Vaginal secretions fibroid juices. I'm like scott sure has a lot of uh things on like that's what he got from
From that towel, but it was so
Like that's incredible scott's face is like one of those gas
Yeah, a lot of vaginal problems for a guy. He's got a very sensitive. Yeah, but it was chemical
How we even knew what endometriosis and he goes I feel endometriosis. I was like, how does it get to your face?
Holy shit, but it's it's something like you watch that and you're like you
Part of you is kind of laughing. You're like this guy is ridiculous, but this is this own guy's
Personal demon is these germs and you just you want to you watch these people and you're like, oh, I kind of feel good about myself
At least I'm not that guy. You can't have a trash can in this house. That's right. That's what it is
Like we all huddle in our fucking living rooms
We look at these people who are in a hell realm and have been discovered
By some producer that's the other interesting thing is they have to cast this net somehow where they're like
We need to find people
Who are really really really doing weird shit and and and that means that there's pitch meetings
Yeah, where someone's like, hey, look, I heard about this dude. Scott
He can fucking detect endometri...
His face is like a... his face is a...
His face can feel endometriosis. Yeah, he can... yeah, his face knows
It's his face is like a fucking microscope. How do you get a variant cancer on your face?
Ask Scott. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. And then they're like, all right. All right. That looks good. That looks good
So let's do that or like another way to put it is like so
Now I don't know the statistic on this but on any given day
There are a certain number of children around the planet who are murdered unfortunately
There's that many people and on any given day and probably in America
There's a certain number of children who because of neglect or abuse
They drop their body and so when Nancy Grace had that show
Right. She was having to pick
Which murdered children to put on the show and you you have to watch that because
She is it's like and I don't think she gives a shit Nancy Grace. It's I it's all
She gets the viewers people want it but people so wrapped up and interested
In cases and things like that. I personally think because I I myself
I'm a little guilty of that and you know what I was really guilty of when the three girls in Ohio
Were discovered
One ran out a man. It was an Amanda not Amanda Bynes. That's that um Amanda. Why am I freaking? I cannot remember
I've read two books, but there was a couple years ago the three girls that were kept in that house in Ohio
By a man for for 10 years
And one like broke out with her child and the neighbor
Like helped them out of the screen door. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know you're talking about. Yeah
And the guy's name was like castra like his last name. He ended up hanging himself in jail
But if you read the books one girl wrote michelle night wrote the first book
And she was the first one that was kidnapped and then it wasn't till like years later came the other two
women and then they co-wrote
A book together and when you read the details
Of of what went on in that house, but even when it hit the news
I think I was working in Boise or something and I just watched cnn
Just kept it on and it was the same report
Over and over and I just stood in front of the tv crying because I just couldn't believe
that society
Failed
These three women. Yeah, and that neighbors sometimes people would see like young girls with this man and wigs on
And sunglasses by the trash can yeah, and nobody said shit any police his daughter would come over
For like a brunch and he'd have them locked up in different parts of the house
Yeah, like how are you somebody's daughter that you don't know
That you haven't even been through your father's house that you can't sense
But he would lock them in a van with helmets over their head
And the detail and the horror of this and then you see something like the 12
I'm not an alarmist. I promise everybody
But then you see like the 12 kids that were in california
With the father and the mother the turpin family where they had they all look like they're in the band the monkeys
Yeah, and that guy held his that guy held 12 kids. He had them handcuffed
To bunk beds and this was going on for a very long time
Yeah
And what I think is this is going on in america and there are so many more
Of these and that I feel like like I want some military or trooper
I want people knocking on people's doors
You know why I think people love watching this shit and reading it and why I love watching and reading it
You know and and and is because like in a in a what like all of us
In our own way
Because we're incarnated temporarily in a dimension where there's so much suffering
Our handcuffed to a type of bed that we created like we're all trapped. We're all freaks
We're all in the corner. We're all backed into a corner and dealing with our own imprisonment
Uh our own you generally self-imposed imprisonment. Yeah is way more difficult than it's almost than watching like, you know
another like a
hyper
Intensified version of what's happening to almost every single person which is that like we're all like if you scan your life
You're attached to some shit like in that case those kids were literally attached to a fucking bed
By a lunatic like that dude had to go on amazon or go to some fucking weird shop and buy
12 pairs of handcuffs in a monkey's hairdo and like first of all
Like how do people it's like I know when I walk into a room
I scan that room fast and even when I'm eating or I'm out or even when I'm doing comedy
I can tell you I can see people's energies. I can see things going on and I'll tell you
When I when I feel something is wrong or off I'm watching because I'm aware
And I'm not walking around with my head up my ass
But I think people are so self-involved don't pay attention and meanwhile in your neighborhood
Is this person who's moved to not just one but he moved over a period of time with his wife to like four places
They took their kids to disneyland. Someone didn't notice
Maybe something was completely off. Well, did you see the um
That there's a I think it who was it uh, Alfred Hitchcock directed a
I can't remember what it's called. It's very sad. It's a documentary on the holocaust
And what they did was they had the uh, now we're gonna get really hilarious. Let's just
We went for kidnappings to the holocaust
Welcome to how comedians talk to each other
If you aren't depressed now, you will be well, let's see what happens
the the um, so so they uh, they
essentially in this village
Next to one of these horrific camps
they
Went into the village and they got everyone who was living in that village
And they parade they made them walk in front of a table
And on that table was like a lamp made out of human flesh
Like all the horrors that have been happening right next to them that they were pretending weren't happening
And and they did that to like show them like hey look look and then if you want to go further back
To to another time when you like one of my favorite verses in the
Bible is when jesus is being crucified
I love it because it's one of those verses that you hear
And you hear it one way at first at least for me and then over time you you realize
In a different way, but so you Christ says
Father forgive them. They don't know what they're doing. So when I first heard that I thought
it meant
They don't know who I am. Do you know who I am? I'm the son of god. They don't know who I am, right?
Well, that's just one level of it. There's a deeper level. Oh, yeah, which is they literally
Don't know what they're doing. They're like rumbas
they're just
Like spiritual machines that are kind of stuck in a pattern of denial
In acceptance and they have no idea what they're doing meaning like we have to forgive them because they are
Unconscious, they're zombies. They're sleepwalking. Are you gonna like there's there's a
And in the courts, it's called temporary insanity where someone
Does a homicide and they're shown they were like on their
Verifiably weren't there. They had a fucking seizure of insanity and they did something rotten
And they came out of it and they're covered in blood and they're like, what the fuck did I do?
so that's
Temporary insanity and people get off on that if you can prove it and it does fucking happen, right?
It does but I hold those people who lived near those camps
I mean, what did they have to do make the knock worse? Like how can you ignore that?
There are people human beings, but then again people don't value human beings people
I would say probably value animals more than they do human beings and I I'm witness to that and I'm I'm
That like really pushes on my sensitivity chip because I see people
And it why are we on this world if we can't help one another and just be kind to one another
I know the business that we're in comedy and it's this, you know
Get up there make people laugh
Which is almost another type of service that you are at least providing to people no matter how dark or whatever's going on inside you
You're up there to almost provide a service for people either to forget about what has happened to them that day
Or maybe what's going on with their life. Yeah, and maybe bring a moment of joy to them
Absolutely. I mean, yeah, that's is the
the
The thing one of the things I've been thinking about a bunch lately is this
I have a guru named Corole Baba and he is dropped. You have him too. What just get real
Ah
My guru's Neiman Marcus Duncan close
But the the one of the things he said is very simple, which you know people would come to him and they would say
I want to develop
I want to raise my Kundalini and that's a way of saying like sometimes like when you get around like
Really really famous people
Um
Like once I got lucky and was sitting next to
Deant word, which is this like amazing band. I don't know if you know, they are on on the plane
but in like, you know, like you're sitting next to them and you're trying to identify how much of
This is my own projection onto them and how much of them is actually like radiating some kind of crazy energy
Well, that's that's Shakti is what it's called or Kundalini energy. And so like Ram Das
One of my teachers had radiates that's a thing you can cultivate
And um, but when you get around really really famous people, they have this radi they they radiate this field of uh,
Oh, I know that very well. Yeah
You do have a wonder my dogs
Oh your dogs
Duncan's number one fans apparently are I thought it was gay man, but now it's Duncan's dogs. Oh, they're so cute
Well, my god, I mean to me it's like I'll tell you if like, I mean where I'm at in my life if like
Gay men and dogs
Love you. You're doing something right. I hope so when but but the the
So
You know, when you get around someone who's like severely famous, you know, who's like really done it
Then there's a term that one of my friends Jason Lou have used. I hope I don't
I don't know fuck up the way he said it, but it's called warping the room
So you get around certain people and there's a warp around them where it's like, you know, it and you'll always see it
It's like no different than when you put a magnet down and and it draws like uh
Magnet next to anything metallic and it draws it to it. It's magnetism is what they used to call it, you know, and that's called
Um, there's lots of different names for it shaktipa
Kundalini energy so people would go to neem curly baba and say, how do I raise my kundalini, right?
And because people want that for a lot of different reasons
They want it because it will make you famous. They want it because it will make you money
They want it because it will give you power over other people
It'll allow you to read people's minds like that thing you're saying where I can see someone
What's within them, you know, that's that's like one of the what's called a city and you can you can get that
You can really work on that to the point where you can like look into someone and see what they're thinking
And then if you're nefarious you can use that against them and that's called sorcery
But anyway, neem curly, I was gonna say that starts to like become sound a little bit like witchcraft that you can figure out
Well, it's it becomes, you know, it becomes a type of witchcraft or it just becomes a thing it just becomes a
You know in the west we have different names for witchcraft
So in the west we'll call it neuro linguistic programming and lp or something like that
We have different names for the exact same phenomena
But so people would go to neem curly bell and say how do I develop this and he would say feed people
Feed people you want to you want those powers go feed people and so
I think about that a lot because it's so simple and and and and so when you say oh when i'm doing comedy
You know i'm giving some you're feeding people right and so the more that you do that and this is
The more a comedian does that and does it successfully
Then the more they're going to start generating this aura of magnetism because you know i mean not to like
Blow smoke or anything shan, but when you walk into a room people gravitate towards you people want to look at you
You know how to do it if those are bill collectors
Every funny person i know
Has developed a type of and i'm you can use this language for here we call it talent
It's a city which means that if you want to
When you're in a group of people
Whether it's on stage or not on stage you can start doing a series of
Actions that are kind of hypnotic that are going to induce a reaction that's going to make people laugh right
That's a city you've developed this kind of thing and that comes from feeding people and the way you've been feeding people
Is with your hilarious fucking comedy and so it's like comedians are always a little magical
You know and some comedians are are dark
Are sorcerers and some comedians are are like shamans, you know like if i've never met a comedian or a funny comedian
That isn't magical. I've never met a of a hilarious person that isn't either overtly or subconsciously
using a type of
Power that in other parts of the world
Is always associated with magic. Yeah, but they don't call it that they just call it the sparkle the stuff
Yeah, you know they call that talent. Yeah, right. That's what we call it here. Yeah. Yeah, it is it is not I mean you
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You would hope that that it's like you can attract
People you know in this business when you get up there and you do your thing and you there's a vulnerability
To every person that will stand on the stage. It's like you're naked and you're saying hey and there's that
That that comic mentality, but I think people like this in general like I hope they like me
I hope people like me
And you put yourself out there and I
Generally
I generally do like people. I am a people person. I've always been
An extrovert I've always been outgoing and even when like I grew up do a different, you know, I grew up Jewish in Oklahoma
There weren't many of us walking around and even then I was super proud and like for show and tell at school
I bring a fucking dreidel with me and a menorah and I'll let you know the kids they all loved christ
They all attended the church on the corner and I just stood proud because I was like well look at me
I'm maybe a little different, but this is I embraced it and
When you get on that stage, there is that whole
Like part of you that you're just like well, I hope I can provide
This service, but you know that doesn't that service doesn't come without judgment
So you put yourself up there and you hope that you can feed off
Positive vibes and people and make people happy not everyone's gonna always agree with everything you say and
You're gonna see the judgment probably more than you might see the laughs
Well, it depends on what you're looking at. I mean, it's like that's the problem with comedy especially with comedy is like
you have to like
so you've got like, you know
The double-edged sort of comedy I think as opposed to like other art forms is like
I can like sit in my studio here and make music all fucking day and I can pretend to myself
That's some really beautiful music Duncan, right?
It but because like there's some really good weed. Yeah, exactly. And let me tell you it's always the weed
It's hilarious every once in a while like every once in a while, maybe
I got a top dead hit. No, it was just the Jamaican roast
You know what it's like when it's like two in the morning
You're fucking baked and you're looking at your hands scrolling down. What you feel is like the like the the
channeled divine
Wisdom of the universe and then you like wake up in the fucking morning and look at it. You're like
I have to tell you though. I have only been high once in my life
and it was
I thought I was gonna die and it was in Amsterdam. Was it marijuana? It was full-blown
marijuana
And I you know, I thought because I I work mostly a lot on all gay male cruises and I perform on them and so
I thought oh, it would be funny to open my show. I had my videographer with me
I'm like be funny to open my show like Sean Pulaski's never gotten high
in her life until today
And so I brought like all these props and things with me just in case it would be funny when I got high
And we you know, we sat in that Amsterdam cafe
It's just it was all it was all bad like I don't know why I became the carrot top of getting high
But I logged all this shit with me
And I get I literally
Get there and I'm like, okay, you know, I was raised by
Two parents that always like drugs are bad for you. Stay off drugs. You know, go go, you know get straight A's
Become a doctor or whatever the case was and so I was always just I never really did
I mean I had alcohol and I would drink and party but
Drugs just I never touched pot, but I thought okay. I'm in Amsterdam. This is legal. Let's get a really funny video
And I had five friends with me and they brought me like a spliff
And I did the the pop with the tobacco and it must have been about like three feet long this spliff
I smoked the whole thing
An hour went by I said this shit isn't working
How am I the only person that pot does not affect? I've never had pot and I was literally like I was so nervous
I was like shaking holding pot. You would have thought I was like
Like raping a full family like you the way I was so nervous that I was gonna get caught with anything
So then they're like, okay, we went we got you we got you this stuff full-blown marijuana
This should do the trick and then I smoked almost half of that
And I was like, it's not working. So I don't know. I've been smoking for like three hours
I mean and then at some point it kicked in and then all I remember is it
You know, I remember grabbing props. I remember like doing that they filmed something
and
Then I remember blacking out
And then I remember walking and I could hear myself talking but I was like 30 seconds behind
And I was comparing pounds to euros like who gives a fuck. Why am I doing that?
Yeah, and I turned to my friend. I said am I high? He said yes. I said am I in Amsterdam?
He said yes. I said am I walking? He said yes
And then six hours. I was so fucking high. I was talking to trees
I thought Kathy Griffin was coming to take my non-career. I had no idea. It was not a good experience
You got paranoid about Kathy Griffin. I could you believe that? No, I can't believe it for sure
No, because the mind is like so like you're like
The disc the discursive mind like when when you get stoned
For the first time and you over you overdosed yourself
And I sure did. Yeah, you overdosed and and like when you overdosed on marijuana
What what happens is that part of your mind that like puts you in a bad mood takes over
Because that part of the mind is wrong is wrong. I had five friends that watched me
Over none of them are really smoking. Yeah. Yeah
I had read like the pamphlets in the Amsterdam
Cafes before that said, oh, you know, they had all these steps if you feel really high
Pour sugar into water. Have you ever fucking heard of this sounds like a bunch of hogwash?
I mean, but I remembered that and my friends all went to dinner and I'm talking to a tree
And I came in and then put the put the sugar I put pounds and pounds of sugar into the water
No, nothing the video came out really funny. It did. That's great
I can't find it. I don't know where it is. It was on like a DVD
And I think my husband was the only one who ever saw it because we had just started dating at the time
But I didn't do well and it made me it made me so nervous to ever like do it again. Yeah
Well, you overdosed
Apparently, I mean, this is the fucking problem. I'm a terrible drug addict. Yeah. So yeah
Give me all the heroin. I mean, I I yeah terrible. So my mom would say the same thing
I'll never smoke marijuana. I did she tell tell the one time she like overdosed on weed and like, you know
I had the spins and I was paranoid and it's like so I'll never do it again because marijuana is fucking horrible
It's like that's like saying like, you know wine is like
Poison because because once you drank three bottles of wine, you know, and you were you were vomiting for days
another funny thing that you're saying
Is like so many people would be like, you know, my parents they weren't into drugs, you know
They would just drink and it's like, oh, you mean your parents were doing the most destructive drug on the plan
Yes, like they did a study
They did a wonderful study this guy. And fortunately his name is professor nut, which is like brilliant fucking a noise
Maybe he's like a sidekick professor ball. Yeah, I just like I know why does his name have to be like that?
It's like professor bongo professor, you know
professor
Choo-choo
You know, why does his name have to be ridiculous and he's a psychedelic advocate?
But regardless his data, you know, the research is good and he did he did this wonderful study to determine
Like what's what's the most harmful drug? What are the most harmful drugs on the planet?
And you know, you have these wonderful liquor. What is alcohol alcohol's the first and and you know, though
It's it's you know, I think if we like compare like say
Methamphetamine to alcohol methamphetamine comes really close
but but if like methamphetamine were suddenly
available
For sale at like 711, you know, you could just go to 711 buy one of those shitty fucking hot dogs and like
meth crystal
Then meth would make it above alcohol because it's the it's the availability of alcohol mixed in with it. What about opiates?
What what about opiates? They're like a few down opi. Opioids are a few down. Yeah, because it's like
what apparently
What heroin
Is doing to your body like to your liver
Into your heart to your to your body
Compared to what alcohol is doing to your body. It's way less bad for you
It's just really way more addictive and it like and and and and if you're measuring it outright. Yeah, sure
You know alcohol fucks you up like they just did a study where they found out there is no
Healthy amount of alcohol like you know that bullshit you read like yeah one glass one glass one
I heard that I heard about that study. Yeah glass but then I turned I heard today another study
It's like everyone's contradicting themselves are like if you have a little bit of alcohol and red meat
That's oh, that's good for you like people. They said oh no the study was red meat and cheese
So it's like is it good for you? Is it not I feel like every month
Another study comes out to contradict the other studies and the previous study
So I don't even know what to believe anymore. I can just know that's like
I'm going to try and live my life if I want to have a drink
I do if I wanted to smoke pot I can I've been into the med men. Thank you
On robertson and Beverly Hills. I have walked in there
And I had ordered like I had gone in there and I I someone said oh you should take the cdc
Mints, you know if you ever feel anxious or this this will help you calm down. It doesn't have any of the thc
I went in there. I walked in with like a jone crofford hat on and sunglasses
Yeah, I looked like an asshole
And I'm like am I buying drugs and they're like what and I'm like is the popo gonna come and get me and they thought
I was crazy and they gave me the cdc stuff
Didn't work or see look at me. I'm the worst drug addict ever you will never see me on intervention
Good luck getting addicted to marijuana cdp. Yeah, I know it's terrible. Was it cdb. See that's how shitty I am
Well, I took it and it didn't work and then I went back again
And I got it with the thc
Didn't work just made me nauseous. It didn't help me didn't help me stay calm nothing
Yeah, it's like there's a I went to this cdc the center of disease control
See where my jewish mind is always like do I have that?
Jesus
You know, there's like everyone that's the other thing is like because of this awful prohibition on drugs
There is this assumption that everyone's body reacts to
To marijuana or other psychedelics the same way like
Everyone's genome is a little different. So people have different reactions to certain psychedelics. So it's like
you know one of the
Beautiful things about the fact that they've begun to study psychedelics again is that there's wonderful things you could do by just
analyzing people who have like
Rough reactions to marijuana, let's say or to psilocybin and then would I be one of those rough reactions to marijuana?
You might be you know, it isn't it's a phenomena that comes up where people are like, I can't get high
and and it was so weird and what is that, you know, there's a lot of like
Potential answers to that who the fuck knows from like the woo-woo side of things to like
Something to do with the cannabinoid receptors in your brain and then and then and then maybe like the cannabinoid receptors
Disappoint like what?
You know, I don't know by the way, this is pure 100 percent bro science. I have a doctorate in bro science
who the fuck knows I've got a lot of
I got a lot of friends who are like doctors and scientists and when this shit starts going they're just like
What about chemical makeup of people? I'm sure that
Plays into effect
Of how people react. I mean like how does that explain?
genetically
If people become out if they've had an alcoholic parent and then they become alcoholics. I think that there's something
Yeah, it's genetics. They were trying to feed so like now what they want one this
scientist I met at a psychedelic
A conference was telling me that they're working on analyzing people's genomes and seeing if they can figure out what psychedelics are just
Probably statistically not going to work for you. So if we lived in a civilized society where
alcohol
was
Not the only
legal
Yeah
Route to shifting our consciousness through some chemical then
Theoretically you could have a genetic test done and they would be able to tell you. Oh
Don't take mushrooms. Yeah, you're gonna freak the fuck out every time because of this or that
Now that's science, right? Now if you were to go to the other side of the charts to like the
World where mushrooms are actually like a healing plant medicine and you look at the concept of the human entity
Is a kind of temporal sponge that has absorbed a bunch of darkness and trauma then
You could say well the reason you're going to have a rough time at first with the mushrooms is because
All that trauma that's inside of you
You've been desperately trying to ignore with every single fucking drink you've been taking with every single shitty relationship
You've been getting into and with every single fucking thing you've been addicted to with every video game that you've been playing
and with every
Sleeping pill you've been taking all that fucking darkness is going to be pushed out of your body by the
The healing medicine and when that starts coming out you're gonna see it with your conscious mind
And when you see it with your conscious mind, it's going to scare the fucking shit out of you
And that fear is what we call a bad trip when reality
You had a few of those
In the early days I did you know when I was still like purging myself of this shit and like it's kind of like
A bad trip is a lot like eating
Going to let's say
I don't know fucking like
Wendy's in panorama city. I don't know if you've ever been to the Wendy's in panorama city
I can't say that I have no offense Wendy's in panorama city. I went there. I got I don't know if it was you
And I don't know if it was let's just so forget it. I don't want to get sued by fucking Wendy's
I'm just saying like it's like eating
A lot of really bad food
and then
Vomiting and looking in the toilet and being like, oh my god
That was inside of me. And so that's a bad trip a bad trip
does in a period of like
Six hours what a great therapist is going to do over the course of maybe a couple of years
Which is like very gradually allow you if there's something that needs to be released
To release it whereas like a which is why it's great to the the model for mushrooms
Was usually there would be paired with the mushrooms a person called a shaman who would be there to help you
Yeah, because that's why ayahuasca is so popular and people will just take trips and yeah and trip out on that
I think i'm just too
I think i'm just too nervous to do something like that. Oh, right. That's right
Yeah, we're nervous and then and then you would say to your the question
Why are you and who wants to be there? It's like I feel sorry for the shaman
It's got to deal with all my neuroticist like I could just see that shaman like no, I quit
I quit this one is too much. Baba Streisand is too much for me
I don't know why I made the shaman arab, but I just did that's it. I learned shaman's. Yeah, usually usually there are
Shamans there are arab shamans
I'm sure they're usually the ones like in latin america where people go to do the ayahuasca
Well, we you know as comedians like you know, usually when I'm like
Many comedians that I've met if have like a lot of pain they're carrying around
Yeah, like they're afraid to put the pain down for a lot of different reasons
And like one of the reasons they're afraid to put the pain down
Is because they think if they put the pain down they'll stop being funny
And and I've like seen that many many times where comedians are like fuck that fuck that
Like I don't want to be happy
I don't want to feel good about life. I don't want to feel like all fucking like yeah, everything's perfect
I love everyone because then how am I gonna write my fucking jokes
My jokes are a deconstruction of fucking society motherfucker. And if they're not that they're like
Based on a kind of like, you know, whatever. So the idea is like
You know, if I remove the pain
Then failure awaits. I don't know if that's you or not, but I know I've been in I've been that in that place before
This ridiculous idea that if you don't self-flagellate you're gonna be in some kind of like god will start hating you or something
Yeah, I know I I I I have the capability of digging deep. I'm not afraid for people to know what who I am in my life. I don't
I don't know. I'm I I feel like I'm an open book, but it also depends. I mean, I vary
Who I'm in front of and what I'm doing and sometimes I just like to think off my feet. So it's not really diving
Deep into me now when I'm doing material I can I mean I've I've got to say I've been really fortunate in my life
as far as um
Growing up and I had a good family
And I worked really hard and I was a good student
And I I I always knew I wanted to make people laugh and I you know had thought like I wanted to do the whole
SNL type of route and I love like impressions and and characters
But as time's gone by and as I get older I do I experience
You know, I I do experience more pain you have more life experiences
And they're real and they don't prepare you for things
You know, I used to think I'd see these eat true Hollywood stories. I'm like, I'm never gonna get there
I'm never gonna get to the top. I don't have any true Hollywood story. I didn't I didn't do this
I didn't get caught here. I wasn't arrested. Um, you know, this didn't happen to me. I didn't flee to Mexico
I didn't have any of this shit happened to me. Yeah, and
Not in like a polyana type of way, but just I didn't have anything that I mean the worst that had happened
Is that my parents got divorced after 30 years of marriage and it just my mom was how old were you? I was
20
About 21 21. I was like my first my
No, it was like, yeah, my senior year in college
What my first day my senior year in college I got the call
I mean they were having problems and then that happened and it kind of took a toll
I my mother emotionally and for my brothers and sisters and I it was something that we
Tried to help and Carrie and she never got rid of the pain and the anger
And it it was hard and it was hard to watch and it you know
You you watch something like that and then this year when my mom suddenly passed away
And got really sick out of the blue. It was just that was very painful
And i'm not afraid to talk about something like that. I'm not afraid to to tell people
You know how that experience affected me and i'm not afraid to find jokes as well
It took me a moment to find any humor and that
That torturous situation that I play over in my brain
Every day since and it gets harder to hold my head up high. Yeah
Especially since she was my biggest fan my number one supporter
So it you carry that with you and I know you've got to understand this and it's
I don't think anyone preps you they don't prep you for the loss
Make sure of a parent and then there should be classes
It's like when you go to college or even in high school how to balance a checkbook, you know how to balance your bank account
um
You know how to how to purchase a house
Yeah things that need people how to do your taxes. Yeah, and and another thing is how
How do you deal
With a parent dying or parents getting older help taking care of them
And that's something just was so new to me. How do you deal with that?
Like if you had to teach that class like if you had to write the course syllabus for that class
What what would it look like like if like you had to teach a bunch of people who had somehow managed
to get themselves in a
State of consciousness where they actually think their parents aren't gonna die
Which is a lot of people
What would the class look like? What would you say to them? Like how would you like teach that class?
I think first of all
What I noticed is that and I didn't really know much about this is like long-term health care
Thank god my mom had something like that. I don't even think people even know many people are even aware
Of that today. I mean younger generation. Maybe an older generation is where that is something
It's like that sometimes I feel like could be a saving
Grace as far as if you are a child and then you become
A caregiver your brothers and sisters and there's a strain and a stress
That happens with family when a parent gets sick or someone has to take
Care of someone so I think and you may think you've got this tight family and there's just camaraderie there
But it can I think it can break a family apart destroy a family just break it
And that that is challenging. Yeah, and I think if you go in aware
knowing that the emotional stress
of being witness to this and I think what's really important is is
If someone, you know, you see your parent, I mean it depends like we all can't call when
Someone's going to pass away and sometimes it's just sudden and I've seen that too
And I feel like, you know, you've got to really value
The people around you and you can give everything you can give to that person because
When it's gone
Suddenly and it's done
You go back and there's all these stages where you second guess god
I wish I wouldn't have talked to them this way. There was that one time I did this and that's kind of the record
that
I play in my head and there's not I mean, it's been about six months
And I there's not a part of me. There's nothing about me. That's like I wake up and I'm like gosh, you know what I remember these
I go over
the torture and I feel like
When someone around you or a parent is sick
We're not you just you've got to like you have to surround yourself with people
Who you love who you care and and you've got to take care of yourself
mentally and physically
and
How long were you taking care of her? How long well I wasn't like my mom had
caregivers and we were all my sisters and brother we were
It was like a it literally was
Maybe like a seventh month period. It was like six months where she just got sick and
um
It just happened also fast when part of the blink of an eye. Yeah, and nobody knew the best of doctors
You know, we had the best neurologists in southern california and the testing the multi millions of dollars of testing man
Healthcare is important. I'll stress that again
Because sometimes that can help people
Maybe they might not find the answers, but at least you're trying so
You can find you can find that the message also
Like, you know the class is like because if I was like help if I was getting to teach this class with you
Like the first thing I would want to get out is like do mushrooms
Do lots of them
Yeah
But do it in a responsible way and and and not could have used some at that time
Just mushrooms. There's a lot of different like access points to the transcendent that aren't just psilocybin
But you know psychedelic there'd certainly be a psychedelic component to it
But the other thing I'd want to teach people
is it's
The whatever you've created in your mind about how this is going to look
That's not how it's going to look. It's not it's not what you expect
And then the other thing I'd want to put in people's minds is it's a million times
less scary than you think it is it's
Sad and it is
Heartbreaking but your mind is created
um, or at least my mind created, you know, the text of chainsaw massacre
Uh, or that level of this kind of like, you know, hellraiser
Thing when really what you're what you'll experience is the most natural thing there is
Outside of birth, which is people have been entering this dimension and exiting this dimension
for a very very long time and
um, so
You suddenly begin to encounter something that's as natural as a river running downstream as a natural as wind blowing through the forest
it's but also attached to it
is all the attachment of the people who
somehow
managed to
Trick themselves into imagining that we are here permanently. Yeah, and that's where you run into the light. That was me
That was me drama. I thought I thought I my I think my family is invincible
And I don't know why I always thought I thought that about my grandma birthday. She died at like 98 my grandma rose died at 94
I have an aunt right now. God help us all and anna
She's 105 wow
And her husband uncle abe was in the holocaust. He had the numbers on his arm
We were not allowed to ask uncle abe about the numbers when we were a kid
But I used to make a joke because aunt anna. She is tough. She called me fat my grandpa's funeral in ninth grade
I will never forget that
I'll hold a grudge and I will go visit anna, but I always say like oh my god
You know, I said, uh, I say my uncle abe survived to holocaust ashowitz and anna because she
She was she was tough
You know, she was tough on him and he was just this sweet little polish man. Yeah, so sweet
But anna no kids just keeps on going. Wow
She's just and she's there. She's got a boyfriend
In her, you know nursing home. She's doing it. She likes it here. Yeah
Yeah, she likes it here. Some people want to stay here. Some people don't but but the the um
Yeah, that that uh
that's
To me
It's amazing the way I love the west. I love technology. You know, you see all these fucking gadgets everywhere. I love technology
Love virtual reality all that it's so incredible. It's so incredible
but
In the west there is this massive
Blind spot
And that blind spot is our own mortality and we need the blind spot for
um
materialism to work like it does
Because like, you know, like when you watch any fucking coca-cola commercial, right, which is a classic example of like
Ridiculous marketing. There's like a great youtube
Clip if you look up, uh
Gixx spelled z i z e k
Of course, that's how he spells it. Yeah. Gijek. Gijek. Is that one of the names on the cans? You're like, fuck you Gijek
I was just looking for john
Gijek and um, he uh, he does a kind of like analysis of
Different brands and he does this just fantastic deconstruction of a coca-cola commercial and coca-cola itself
And so whenever we see a coca-cola commercial in general
Uh, it's always like around youth
Right and it's always you sometimes it's like a party. Oh, it's always a party. We're fucking partying. There's a barbecue
It's all this fucking, you know, it's like this the impression that goes along with the branding
Is that this is youth you're you're kind of drinking a party you're drinking
This is like almost like the fountain of youth or something
It's like you're you're sipping the best times of your life in this can
This is this amazing fucking thing and if you you look at like
all commercials
Outside of the ones on fox news which are designed for the geriatrics who are watching it
You are like having all these fucking difficulties from like this dress level
They've been getting from watching fox news for their whole lives if you fucking watch like most of these commercials
They're all portraying
A dimension where we're immortal, right? Because for for capitalism to really work
We need to put matter over soul, right? Like we've got to put like
Stuff over like the transcendent. Otherwise, it's kind of like try to fucking convince somebody
to like
Get into debt to the banks
Who is 100 percent certain that the body is a vehicle that they temporarily inhabit on a very long journey
Which is the process of purifying what they are good fucking luck with that coat commercial, you know
Good luck with that
You know like try to get across this idea of like you don't need to be in a hurry
You know, you really don't you don't need to be in a hurry. You're torturing yourself
and the reality of the situation is that you're
Desperately trying to escape the reality of your own
Mortality by going to these stupid parties
And if you just sit in yourself and become what you are right now, which is perfect
You don't need to drink coke. In fact, uh, it'll be the best tasting water
You ever had in your life if you love yourself. Good luck. How does that fucking work?
So in the west we're all taught that uh, we we avoid death and the avoidance of death
I think is great on one level because it gives us this till it happens, right?
We get to enjoy this fucking cool-ass roller coaster. It's like
party party party. Wait a minute. My fucking arm doesn't work
Wait, what does that mean? Why is my arm not working? Well, it's because you have a degenerative neurological disease
It's how you're you got six months to live. You're like, wait, what? Where's my coke? Wait, that was my coke drinking, Anne
Here try Pepsi. Yeah
Pepsi for people who's right, Anne has been paralyzed because they're slowly dying
Right. So yeah, this is the situation and this is the this is the grand conspiracy. The grand conspiracy is that we
have been intentionally
Misdirected from one of the greatest things that happens to us and because of that
We've transformed that into the worst thing that can happen to us and now when it happens
Families get ripped apart
People are not prepared people die in shitty fucking medical conditions because they thought they were gonna live forever
And and and it's a it's all I think blow back from
Materialism which is like when you get taught that this shit goes on forever when it just doesn't it just doesn't and that's good
Yeah, I think it's important. I think it's important though to tell
Especially in a situation like that in in those moments and especially if it's someone is
Is is sick and they're dying in front of you. It's just you
Get him a coat. Yeah, I think that's I guess what I should have done
But I is that one of the things you beat yourself up about that you didn't bring your mom a nice cold glass of Coca-Cola
I was like Shirley McClain in that hospital from terms of endearment. I was like somebody get my mother the shot
And I feel like you know just to to to
To express yourself. I mean that's one thing I've
learned I guess and I guess and also in the work that we do is
Just be honest and
And tell people how you feel and and I was very honest and told my mom
How I felt and I I was there and that's what I feel that's very important
Especially when someone's sick and if this is their last of days and they're trying and they're fighting a fight
It's important that someone's there. I think human touch
I know that's what I'd want
And I and I would appreciate that and the hospitals don't make it easy for you
And I wanted like after I came out of the hospital. I was like god, I want to go to shark tank
I want to invent a you know the the the um companion bed
And it's a bed that snaps on to the bed of the person who's sick
And dying and you can lay next to them and just like not be in a weird contorted body holding their hand in a chair
So like there is that comfort level there
You can't that they know that someone's there with them to help them
To get through this because I can't imagine the fear
That must go through people's brains
In a situation like this when you're in a hospital and there's strangers coming in and they're changing you and they're this and
And and you're seeing your life kind of flash before your eyes because all of a sudden all these relatives are coming in
To that you haven't seen in a while and I I I can't imagine how how fearful people must feel
I think I would well the relatives also, you know the the training is like, you know
The dying person as they begin to transition
It seems that something kicks in and you see this natural process that are happening and
But the living
Oh my god, it's like
What what ends up happening is that they're because we are also terrified of our own death
That when we're around a dying person
We begin to project our own fear of death onto the dying person, right?
And so it's no longer about the dying person the dying person becomes an extra
In your movie about how you're terrified of dying
You know what I mean? Yeah, and that's like it's like give give them the fucking spotlight
Oh, yeah, they're about to fucking merge with infinity and you're the one who's like
It's okay to cry by the way, you know, I'm saying like crying in front of them do all that stuff
But like it's a really in ps. I'm not talking about anybody but my own fucking self like when I my father passed
actually
On the 12th and when I was with him
Uh, thank god for my teachers, you know, because what you did naturally what you're saying I was present
I was there. I told the truth. I did this
That is such good karma Sean because that's like a lot of people don't get that fucking chance
You get one chance
To swing at that fucking ball and most of us miss and that's okay
How many people miss but and that's okay because we you did your best you weren't taught you were afraid
You went into fucking denial mode. You wanted to get out of the fucking picture. You wanted to run
You were angry. You didn't do whatever. It's okay, man. No one taught you
but man
If just to say
I was with my mother
And I was present
And I I was there with her and I was there with her to the point where I was so looking at in the face
That I thought about I wish there was a way to lay next to her in bed
That is heroism of the highest level and sophistication of the highest level if you ask me
I just think that's that's a that's heart
Basically what it is. I wouldn't call it heroism. I just think it's called love. That's whatever hero says
Every single well somebody get me a cape somebody get you a fucking cape and a trophy. No tights. I don't look good in those
But yeah, that's a real hero and and and and they're in
You know and that's like a gift so like you're you know, I think our parents give us like the can give us two gifts
One big gift the big one
Our existence and the other one
The way they teach us after they die
Because that's the our parents teaches to talk and they teach us to walk and they teach us to drive and they teach us to ride a bike
But then they teach us about impermanence and they teach us about impermanence after they drop their body
And that's when the real lesson fucking starts and that's when you become a real human and it's a it's like the most heart breaking
Heart breaking thing on one level but on another level
it's like being granted admission into
a secret society and suddenly being shown the scrolls that
Uh, a lot of people haven't had the chance to look at and your parents are showing you this and their body's not there
but it's like they're still teaching you and you're like
Really feeling that teaching that's the connection with them. You know and so now you're in a you know, so anyway, it's a
it's a uh
It's a um another thing that people can learn is what you know, when my dad was passing I called
Well, he called me. It's so cool. I grew Marcus. He's been on the podcast a few times
He just always calls it just the right time and so I'm sitting there. My father's sleeping. He's he's probably
Less than like 13 hours away from uh transitioning and um
He calls me and I'm I say to him I just don't want him to suffer
I just don't want him to suffer
And uh, he says to me
take yourself
out of it
right meaning
It was such a perfect thing to say and it might sound like
That's a brutal thing to say to somebody. He's he's like, but it's the perfect thing to say, which is what I was doing
Was really I didn't want him to suffer
Not just because I don't want him to suffer because it was hurting me to see him suffer
And I was trying to reduce my own pain
right
And and and so it's in in in what I needed to do
Was not be there so that I could function
As a force of like love and not a fear force. That's scared. That's fear. That's all fear
I don't want him to suffer. I don't want him to hurt. I and then now I can now I can start panicking
Now I can start yelling at the fucking nurse
Right. I did like we all do right
You know, yeah, yeah, we do I did that
We that you know, because it's all love but you're like, hey, hey, what the fuck what's going on here?
He's he's hurting and they're like he's dying
And you know, they don't they don't say it because their nurses and especially hospice nurses
They're trained to be around people who are doing the Shirley McClain thing and they're trained to to to do to be
compassionate to people in that moment of like
absolute panic
But so take yourself out of it
And then and then and then just think I'm just here for him. I'm here for her and
What that ends up turning into is
Oh
They need chapstick
You know, their lips are dry
You want to put some chapstick on his lips because he hasn't been drinking water
You know what I mean? It becomes like very simple matte, you know, and that
That's where you know, you get back on the track when someone's passing and
That would be the other thing I would add get your fucking self out of it. Not not that that's it's okay
It's like get out of your own way. Yeah, you know, it's you know to put it to like in the comedy
The worst thing that can happen on stage
is when you start
Realizing you're up on stage and they start getting that weird fucking
Temporal stutter where you're a few jokes ahead or a few jokes behind you're planning
What's around the next turn and then you're like that then you're gonna start stammering and then that can create a fucking feedback
Loop that ends up in like a not great show
The best sets at least for me are the ones where it's like
You know, you're just in the moment purely and you're just uh
That's how we should
You know be with someone dying and and or be with someone living for that matter, you know, yeah
I like that god. Why am I paying a therapist again? Because you fucking
I just did I just this podcast every day. It's very healing though
Duncan and you have you have that
spirituality and that energy about you and
Uh as I was telling your wife earlier, I just I will reiterate that in this business. I think
You know to find really good
Solid people
I don't think it's as easy
It it's hard to find people that I could really say
That inspire me that I believe are good good natured good hearted
And and have that light about them and and you are one of those people now if you were rich voss
You would you would have I would have just ripped you an asshole. You would have gone through that
And ended it with and you're not one of them. Yeah. Yeah
That's true, and you're not one of them
It's hilarious. You know what he said to me
Rich boss, you know, many, you know, if you're a comedian you have been insulted by many many comedians
Oh, yeah, you've been insulted by comedians in varying
at varying levels of creativity in varying levels of like absolute perfectly sadistic
Darts aimed exactly at the center of your heart and what rich boss did to me was like when I this is when I was dating
Natasha Legerro and you know, she's fucking like kicking ass and like just fucking Natasha, you know, like
I'm do I'm like
No, it's just it's like the part of the process where you're like, well, maybe I'll just start working at a fucking gas station or something like
uh
So we go to eat with rich boss and body McFarland and like, you know, like natural
I'm just nervous around them and like I was nervous. I used to be nervous. You know, I was nervous around you
You guys like when you're around like a really fucking
Funny fucking like you know, it was around me. Come on. Yeah. Okay. You're self deprecating. My tits aren't that big
You're self deprecating. That's a lot of people are and and that's a another comedic trait and it's cool. But but uh
um
Come on so and I can remember like
Uh, so there are there's that extra little bit of like fuck man. I mean, this is a kind of it's like a real comic and like
I don't even fucking know. I said, oh, no, man. I should be fucking
That's probably a mistake and Natasha's for doing great and like what I was already insecure
And I so we have this dinner with them and I don't remember what the fuck I said
But I'm sure it was stupid because I was probably trying to impress
Them and like so then as we're walking to the car
Rich having identified my just absolute insecurity
He says hey Duncan
I'm like we're getting in the car. It's the perfect timing. He goes hey Duncan, you know where I've heard of you
And I like oh, he's heard of me. I'm like where he goes nowhere
He ended
Hope you enjoyed this day
It hurt so bad it felt so good
Fuck he thinks I'm a comedian. You know what I mean? It must mean he thinks I'm a comedian
Yeah, he's got anointed most fucking comedians will not like have learned. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe he does it to this day
I don't know but anyway, Sean
the the to get back to to what we were talking about before
we're both in grief land right now and
Um, are they gonna make that movie grief land
They should stop singing on cars and la freeways. Yeah, they should man
they should because it's like it's a special place to be and
And it's like and as a comedian
to find yourself suddenly
in the land of grief
And then like to like know when you get on stage
That in the audience for sure
Is at least one or two people
Who have experienced recent loss and certainly a lot of people who have experienced
loss and and certainly some percentage of people
Who are desperately trying to avoid
Thinking about that, right?
And yet you've been trained as a comedian to tell the truth
And you've been trained trained to like transform that truth into something funny
And you want to get on stage and not do the hacky fucking thing which god knows
I'm fucking guilty of which is to get up there and be like you're all gonna die
You know go like blizzard king on them, you know
Shut the fuck up. You're not billyx. Get the fuck off
Get the fuck out of here. You're fucked. You think you are no shit. We're all gonna die edgelord. No shit, motherfucker
Boy, I'm guilty of that. That's lazy, you know, but to figure out a way to alchemically convert
Death
Into comedy. How's that working out for you?
You know at I
It really has kind of it it's fueled me
to to be better
Just to try and stand out I feel like
You know, I I deal with it every day and then when I'm on stage
I think those are those moments where it's the one part of the day
Maybe you aren't dealing with the grief because you've got a job
Ahead in front of you and that job is the audience
And you've got to dance like a monkey to entertain them
and I think
It's there's it's such a rewarding sensation
When for those moments you can just step back and be like hey
I can get through my day and
I can make other people happy and
You can kind of go home and then maybe you go back to
thinking about
Things that have happened processing it, but I feel like a part like from from me
I feel like now I've got some forces
Behind me and I can see that happening and it's not just the force of someone
As wonderful and supportive as my mother
It's the forces of mitzi shore who own the comedy store. I mean I visited her two days before she passed
and
It just and it was kind of right after my mom passed away. So it was watching two dynamic jewish women
in my life that were like my tour to force like
deteriorate and that was that was hard
That was hard for me, but I knew that
they
At some point they were gonna come full circle and surround me and I and I do feel that you feel mitzi with you
I bet mitzi. There's no doubt. You know also feels mitzi with her vicki barbelak who's about to take all of agt
I know and and someone told her. Hey, you know some medium person one of them said do you have a mitzi?
Do you know a mitzi?
And she's around you whatever the case is. I knew it and when I went to visit mitzi
I told her I was I talked to her. I I talked to her for about an hour. I told her everything I was feeling
Well, she
loved you shan. I loved her. I loved her. I told her how much I love her
I told her everything she'd done for me and without her I would be I would not be anywhere she
Is will always be an inspiration to me and
She was my biggest supporter after my mother
Like she didn't birth me, but she might as well have I mean I do feel like I lost two mothers this year, but two
Man boy how strong of women they were and they never got to meet each other
Which makes me crazy until now and now I think they have joined forces
and I I can feel them standing behind me because
Things are changing and things are a little bit different and I can see the energy
changing and I can see
You know my career moving in a in a different pace that I had I have not seen before
Well, I mean you just put the special out and you you this is like
I somehow missed that
Wow, I didn't connect that your mom and mitzi
Wow, man
that is
Wow
I mean if folks those of you listening maybe not familiar the comedy store
uh mitzi shore was uh
I don't know how to put it. She was some kind of like I mean that thing we were talking about earlier shaktipa
Yeah, like she had the jiu-jitsu on the coke. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was
very powerful and
um, she
could see
Inside of peak certain people this thing and once she saw it
You know, she would like
She would just
dedicate herself to like bringing it out bringing it out. She she was like
Loved shawnt. She loved you shawnt like she you know because I was the talent coordinator there and I remember that she you like
I loved her you
Uh like eddie griffin. They were like, you know, there's just a few comics that she was like
You know
Her soul was like connected to their soul. It was powerful and it was an incredible thing to watch
Yeah, and um
So how the fuck do you edit?
A comp did you record the comedy special during this?
year
No, it was he it was about a year and a half ago. Okay, so it was before all this happened
So you'd already edited it before I had edited it
Um, and it just was in distribution with the company and they were working all the paper everything out
So it was kind of on
Everything had been done. My mother actually opens my comedy special
Um, and she I kind of like I kind of had put together
An opening like larry david type of scene where I'm in the dressing room
And uh, which we did shoot at the comedy store
In the back main room even though I shot my special at a theater downtown
Yeah, but we shot it there because it was too hectic that day
But about like two months later we we shot that scene with my mom and I have my mom is
you know, it just
To see to see her it's like memorializes her. I mean she now lives in infamy because my mother was a very funny woman
And now everyone can can can see that
Wow, man. Yeah
And when you were shooting it with her, did you have any idea that there was this thing and
Wow
No, she had a walker and she was having problems with her back and her knees and she was trying to get this big back surgery
You know in her 70s, which was really risky already and we were like, you know
her body was kind of deteriorating for some reason she would
You know, she really was set in the mind like my mom was in a funny beautiful vain woman
And she was like, I'm not gonna be in a wheelchair. And so I don't know why I made her harvey fire steam just now, but
But you know she
We were gonna get this surgery and she was set on that. So no, I did not know
That something was happening
Was it was happening then?
Wow, see this is like the other thing. I'm so glad that you're
Fine coming out and staying in it because it's like I'm you know where I'm at with it right now is like
You know
There's like some stuff that I just I'm I guess I'm just afraid to say I feel weird saying but this
idea of like when they pass
When they drop their bodies
Your life gets
Brighter like it's like something gets added and and to it and it does and it's like I don't just mean like
You know like the fact that suddenly like
You you're you're getting a firsthand lesson and one of the most important
Things you can learn here, which is everything is impermanent
That happens, but I'm talking about it
Metaphysically feels like somebody is on the other side of the fucking stage
Work in the fucking working the ropes and the police that wasn't there. I mean, I would hate to think that my mom
The people just go to a place and pass away. I like to believe that
You know, I've had a lot of friends pass away early
I I have I've had my share of surprises and shocks through my life more than I ever wanted to see and not just relatives
like close young friends, so
um
You I want to believe and I have been a believer that there is an afterlife that there are people that there are spirits
and hopefully that that's what surrounds me because
I'll always carry my mom lives within side me
I mean, she's not physically here, which is that's the hard part to handle
there's so many things I want to share with her and
You know, I I I do hope that she's she is her energy's here the uh
This is this is something i'm realizing because like I've got this boy on the way
and like we've been doing it, you know, we did some ultrasounds and
um
uh
And you know some one of my very dear friends like, you know, I maybe listen to the podcast
I'll know he's like, you know careful with ultrasounds and like
Just everyone knows like it's a it's a the place we're going to is a very sophisticated place
it's not like, you know, the some some people get in trouble because
That you can go to these private ones where maybe the ultrasound machines are a little
Stronger than they need to be and like if the brain is developing apparently. I don't know. Anyway, the point is it's cool, but
So here you are looking at your baby, you know, and
now with technology you can see the baby like very clearly and
All the love inside of me is just pouring out looking at this boy and like, you know, my you know, I'll I'll put my head against there
And stomach and I'll like talk to the boy and I'll like sing to him and I'll say I'm so glad you're coming. I'm so glad
um
And lately what I've been thinking is that's exactly what's happening with those who have passed
Is we are in the womb of time and the ones that loved us are just outside the womb of time
In eternity and they're looking in at us here in this very transitory moment as we move through the material
Universe and they sing to us and they like talk to us and the way they talk to us
Is through synchronicities
through dreams
Through just this sense of like because I know my I know
He can hear my voice
unfortunately
My voice is pretty bad
But like I know he can hear my voice and I know that he can feel feel me
Like I know he can and I think in that feeling that we have with our our parents
It's so interesting in the sense that there is an
Undeniable presence and not just that there are these things that begin to happen that are just
not
Normal and they're not not normal in a good way there and and and so yeah, I don't I I don't just believe it like it's
it's you know
They are here and our
Denial of that
Either because we've become terrified of that realization or because
It's easier to believe that there is an extinction of the identity upon the expiration of the body or whatever
Uh, I think
Cuts us off from a very important data stream a very important
um
I don't know. This is the reason we pray to the ancestors. This is the reason that you know, I think it cuts you off from growing
Yes
Yeah
you just
Gotta have an open mind and and embrace that there could be and that
I'm I'm gonna go with that
I think that they they do
that the that mitzi and my mother and
The people that I love are are with me because if not, I mean what I gotta
What do I gotta think like oh, is it practical to be like you die?
You become and you go into the sand and you go and nothing happens
I don't believe that how do you explain?
Really good people like the best people dying young and I've seen the most incredible people be taken out
And then the shit just hanging out live until they're god knows how old
and I just feel like that's
We need we need something good in the spirit world and that's what's
Hopefully on that side. Yeah. Well, I mean we and it's the the I think being scientific about it being scientifically artistic about it
in the sense that
If the hypothesis is that
at this very moment
We are in time. We are in an infinite being experiencing time
in the form of matter
and that
All the people who've dropped their bodies
That were with us are here because they're outside of time. They might decide to like I think of it in terms of like, um
Dolphins
Come up for air go down into the sea and I think we come up for air
Only the way we come up for air is we come up for time
And we the way we come up for time is by manifesting a material body in this dimension
and then we sort of take a big inhalation of
Existence and then we go back down under and that's what death is and so that we don't really like separate from each other
We're like a pod they call it a soul pod, but so if that's the hypothesis
And you're beginning to get these hits these senses of like, oh, shit. I think my mom is actually right here
I think my dad is actually right here
And then can we cultivate that in other words? What happens if instead of just like
Thinking whoa, that was weird
And then what would happen like if you I don't know made like a puja table. Do you know about that?
No
So a puja table is like you get a little part of your house
And you get some candles and you put on on it like a picture of your mom people that you've lost
And it doesn't just have to be built people are dead a little sanctuary a sanctuary
Yeah, and then you a shrine a shrine. Yeah, and then you sit in front of that
Every day
And you remember them
And then see what happens. I like that. Yeah, it's a fun thing to do the experiment and just see what happens
I do I do have a big picture of my mom
In my living room and I stopped to
Acknowledge her and talk, you know, I'll talk and be like, hey, you know, I'll say something
But I think that's probably
it's a very um
That's a I think that's a pleasant way to go
about
celebrating
Fuck yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, right now what we do is we put up this fucking
Concrete block and a goddamn golf course. Yeah, you know what I mean?
We go over there and throw flowers in front of it and it's like, oh, yeah, that's where they are
At the golf course that's filled with corpses. Hell. No, it's like Sean. It's you know, anyway, I am
So excited for you and I'm so excited for what is in store for you and to like see this wonderful special
and to know that it is like
happening
You know in in in in this very magical time in your life this mystical time
It's like no accident that all these things are converging, you know
Wow, man, that is so fucking intense. It's like in the midst of these like monumental
transformations
Suddenly this incredible special pops into the world
Congratulations, that's fucking cool. Thank you Duncan. It's funny when you're working on something for so long
You're like, well, when when does this come to light at the timing of how this is is kind of
You know was kind of surprising because I thought, you know, my mom would be around to see because she was like
When's it coming out? I want to see my you know, she wanted my mom liked a little soft shoe herself
She was hilarious that way, but I'm very I'm very grateful and I'm grateful for all the support people like yourselves who
I know it's uh, it's been hard for you too this year and I just I I think about that and
I'm always here to support people and
Listen, I think that's like another thing about when someone passes. It's like you just hold it inside
You don't talk about it again. I think that'll just each you alive
and I
I know women in general probably are better at talking about
Loss and whatnot because we like to communicate a lot more than men might want to hold it inside and their
feelings and process and
it's it's it's all uh
You know, it's I guess it's just part of adulting and adulting. Yeah, that's so funny adulting is another word for dying
It's like the realities were all dying and it's like the yeah
It's like just you know and everyone's just fucking scared of it
And then it's like when you the moment you like really come to terms with it and you start living in the land of truth
It's like, oh my god, it's it's magical here
It's beautiful here and to say that out loud and be like my god
There's a celebration because my father died
In a just the way he wanted to die and there's a celebration because your mother like she she died
In a way where you were supporting her and there was this deep connection
It's just like to say that out loud and like in the west. It's like god. No, man
We got to fucking wear black and fucking the think of funeral music
You know once I was right
Once I was riding around with a mortician. That's my theme music get out of my head funeral music
Oregon I was riding
It's like vampire music it's like the music we play for death is
Yeah, it's halloween music. It's like why are we playing this fucking sad ass fucking music for something that is like a graduation
This is a graduation from a class in the material universe and everybody's fucking
Wearing black and playing organs and there's fucking candles flickering in the darkness and it's like this is insanity
it's like this is a graduation ceremony and I think that
It's really beautiful to see you throwing your hat up in the form of this like
Wonderful comedy special that you put up. It's really fucking cool. Thank you Duncan. Where can people see it?
Well, you can catch my comedy special. It's called stretch it out
And you can find it on amazon itunes on demand xbox if you're like 12 year old boy
How dare you or my husband?
And you get it on google play fandango now
A bunch of places where you can just get entertainment. So it's pretty it's easy accessible. You can get it from your phone your tv
Everywhere
Where are you you got any shows coming up? I do i'm performing
Uh, well, you can always catch me at the world famous comedy store
But I am performing at the Broadway comedy club on monday on labor day in honor of my friend poppy kramer
who's a female comic who
unfortunately passed last month, so
Uh, I guess if you're if you know me, you may want to step back this year. I'm like everybody's dying
So, uh, starting to put two and two together and then uh, yeah
And then I'll be out in new york and then I head over to brazil, but that's just for fun
I'm gonna have all the links at uh dunkitrustle
dot com
Sean what an honor to have you on the show and thank you so much for spending this much time with memorally grateful
Duncan, I love you. Thank you. I'm changing my name to jeez you right now as we speak jeez jack
But jeez you jeez you oh, I get it. Ah, jeez you jeez. Sorry
Sean, I love you. Thank you. Thank you
Thanks for listening everybody and a big goodbye to august and hello september
I'll see you swedish real soon. Hare krishna
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