Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 307: Paul Selig
Episode Date: October 3, 2018Paul Selig, channeler & writer, joins the DTFH to discuss the after-effects of psychedelic journeys (expanded consciousness, hiding in your room), the limits of our vibratory accord, and psychic infec...tions. Check out Paul's website: [PaulSelig.com](https://paulselig.com/) This episode is brought to you by [Charlotte's Web CBD Oil](https://www.cwhemp.com/) (use offer code DUNCAN for 10% off your order) and [RX Bar](https://www.rxbar.com/) (use DUNCAN at checkout for a 25% discount).
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Ghost Towns, Dirty Angel, out now.
Dirty little angel.
You can get Dirty Angel anywhere you get your music.
Ghost Towns, Dirty Angel, out now.
New album and tour date coming this summer.
Greetings to you,
oh beautiful bumblebee skinned dragons of light.
My friend was telling me this crazy story.
He said he was walking late at night in downtown LA
and he ended up walking next to a man
with severe burns all over his body.
And he asked the man, what happened to you?
And the man said, well, you know,
I was practicing radical inclusivity
and I made friends with a pyromaniac.
My friend, he asked him,
well, did you figure out how to deal with that?
Like how does radical inclusivity work
in a world where there are people
who just love setting shit on fire?
The stranger stopped and smiled.
He said, you know, I used to be a lot like you.
I was worried because I recognized that
with the growing interconnectivity happening
all over the planet,
the technologically enhanced hyperconnectivity
that we are all experiencing
that our ideas of inclusivity
and embrace opening our arms to all points of view
could actually be exploited by others.
That the concept that we should be completely open-minded
when it comes to all ways of life,
including the ways of the pyromaniac
could get us in a lot of trouble at some point,
especially if people began to exploit that vulnerability.
But what I realized was the solution to the entire problem.
I actually discovered a way that we can coexist
with pyromaniacs and my friend looked him in the eye
and said, how, what is that way?
Tell me, the stranger smiled.
But before he could reply,
he spontaneously combusted right in front of my friend.
Now I've heard about spontaneous combustion
since I was a little kid.
There was a small period in my life
where I was actually terrified of spontaneously combusting.
If you've never heard of this phenomenon before,
there was this idea, I think it's kind of faded away
now that we have cell phones
and everyone's filming themselves 24 seven.
But there was an idea that you could just maybe
have the wrong meal, maybe a bowl of baked beans
and some honeyed bread and jam
and then sip some like rare form of vodka,
sit down in your recliner with a good book
and then poof, you would essentially do the same thing
that happens with cell phones.
You would just explode into flames.
And they would find people in recliners
with just a pile of ash and some boots or slippers.
And that's it, there's pictures of this.
And so people thought, yeah, your nervous system sometimes
just fucks up and you can just spontaneously combust.
That was a phenomenon that one time people thought was real.
But ever since I talked to my friend,
it really has got me thinking about this idea
of radical inclusivity, of like opening our arms,
of making our membranes more permeable
to all points of view of the idea that, jeez,
we live in this super hyperconnected world
and there are people in this hyperconnected world
who really have some pretty violent ideologies
and who like accidentally or not so accidentally
because of their beliefs,
they end up setting lots of people on fire.
I was going through some old journals
that I was keeping when I was in the second grade
and I actually found something in them
that maybe would help answer this difficult question.
I'm just gonna read a little bit from this journal.
And, you know, I was in the second grade,
so don't judge me on the writing style.
We have no reason to take this threat lightly.
Everywhere in the West, there are subversive minorities
who sheltered by our humanitarianism
and our sense of justice hold the incendiary torches ready
with nothing to stop the spread of their ideas
except the critical reason of a single,
fairly intelligent, mentally stable stratum
of the population.
One should not, however, overestimate
the thickness of this stratum.
It varies from country to country
in accordance with national temperament.
Also, it is regionally dependent on public education
and is subject to the influence
of acutely disturbing factors
of a political and economic nature.
Taking plebiscites as a criterion,
one could, on an optimistic estimate,
put its upper limit at about 40% of the electorate.
A rather more pessimistic view
would not be unjustified either
since the gift of reason and critical reflection
is not one of man's outstanding peculiarities.
And even where it exists,
it proves to be wavering and inconstant.
The more so as a rule,
the bigger the political groups are.
The mass crushes out the insight and reflection
that are still possible with the individual
and this necessarily leads to doctrinaire
and authoritarian tyranny
if ever the constitutional state
should succumb to a fit of weakness.
So I think somewhere within there we can find
if nothing else the sort of low level articulation
of a big problem that we're facing right now
and that problem, when I wrote that in the second grade,
there wasn't even the internet.
So this problem is being magnified to a great degree.
And now in my older years,
and when I'm not still in the playground
with my hands in the sand,
writing in a journal when I can,
I think I have truly come up with the answer
to how to deal with this.
How do we maintain the humanitarian ideals of inclusivity
while still protecting ourselves
from ideologies that are innately destructive?
And the way to do this is quite simple.
All we have to do is...
...
Holy shit, I just spontaneously combust it.
That was crazy.
It's not as bad as I thought it would be my whole life.
I've been terrified of spontaneously combusting
and then it happens and it's amazing.
It's actually pretty cool.
It's like getting massaged from on the inside by fire,
by tiny little fiery hands.
Huh, interesting.
Wow, all that time I was secretly terrified
of bursting into flames and as it turns out,
it's the thing I've been missing for my entire life.
We've got a wonderful podcast for you today.
The channeler, Paul Selig is here with us.
We're gonna jump right into it,
but first, some quick business.
This episode of the DTFH is brought to you
by a brand new sponsor,
who I have loved for a very long time.
Charlotte's Web.
Charlotte's Web Broad Spectrum Hemp Extract Oil.
It's a wonderful product that when I was on tour
doing my Squarespace tour, I used it at night
because it helped in supporting my sleep cycles.
It's really funny as I read this.
These are the people making this stuff are amazing
and the product is incredible.
And when they approached me to do it,
I instantly agreed to it
because this particular company makes amazing hemp extract
oil that I've used and it's helped me a lot.
It helped me during a tour.
It helps me deal with achieving a sense of common focus.
It's funny, there's certain things right now.
We live in a kind of time period
where we have to be very careful
when we talk about hemp extract oil.
We have to say things like, for example,
that these statements have not been evaluated
by the Food and Drug Administration.
This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure
or prevent any disease.
The Food and Drug Administration, by the way,
I used to think these people were out to get us
and they're not.
I remember chatting with Rick Doblin
and putting the FDA on blast,
like any truly myopic hippie would.
And he explained to me like, actually we need them
because it's important that in history there have been times
where stuff has gotten into the bloodstream of the people.
It hasn't been so great.
So regardless, we have to say that
about this particular wonderful product,
Charlotte's Web Spectrum Hemp Extract Oil.
It's great and it's great for a lot of reasons.
Right now we're in a time period
where there's lots of types of hemp extract oil out there
and we don't necessarily know what's in it.
But why the Charlotte's Web is so great
is because they don't use any chemical pesticides,
herbicides or fungicides.
The whole plant extract is filtered five times
for quality and consistency.
There are 250,000 hemp plants are attended by hand
and the company is driven by care.
So you're gonna get some pesticide free hemp extracts
More than just CBD, Charlotte's Web Hemp Extract supplements
contain many of hemp's other naturally occurring
phyto compounds that work together
to heighten the positive effect of CBD.
Charlotte's Web maintains high standards
from seed to shelf guaranteeing quality
and consistency in every bottle.
And Charlotte's Web can plant the exact plants needed
for specific products to maintain product consistency.
Charlotte's Web is offering a unique offer to you guys.
Go to cwhemp.com and enter code Duncan at checkout
to get 10% off your order.
Don't forget to enter code Duncan at checkout
to get 10% off.
Some exclusions apply, see website for details.
Because of the peculiar nature of the time
that we're living in, there's so many things
that I would like to say about CBD and hemp extract oil,
but I can't say them in relation to a paid ad.
But I highly recommend you guys going out
and researching CBD and hemp extract oil
and look at all the incredible information out there
related to this beautiful supplement.
It's amazing and personally anecdotally
I have used Charlotte's Web and have been deeply
impressed by the potency of this particular supplement.
So if you've been interested in CBD oil
or hemp extract oil, you should head over to cwhemp.com.
Cwhemp.com, enter code Duncan at checkout
to get 10% off your order.
Don't forget to enter code Duncan at checkout
to get 10% off.
Some exclusions apply.
["Song of the Year"]
["Song of the Year"]
["Song of the Year"]
Thank you Charlotte's Web for sponsoring
this episode of the DTFH.
A tremendous thank you to my supporters,
my patrons over at patreon.com.
If you go to patreon.com forward slash DTFH and subscribe,
you will be injected into the throbbing neck vein
of the universe.
It's the inner sanctum of the DTFH
and you'll get commercial free episodes of this podcast
along with an hour long rambling yap per month
and other stuff that lands there,
including access to our Discord server.
All you gotta do is go to patreon.com forward slash DTFH
and subscribe.
There's already a few episodes sitting there
that have not yet been released.
That's patreon.com forward slash DTFH.
Also, one of the coolest people I know on Planet Earth
is looking for a place to rent in the Echo Park
slash Silver Lake area
and he wants to spend around $1,500 per month.
Reach out to me on Twitter if you authentically
know of a cool place that could be home
to one of the most creative, awesome humans
I've ever met in my life.
Do you like merchandise?
We've got a lot of it over at dunkintrustle.com.
Click on the shop and you will bear witness
to a entire new selection of really cool shirts,
hoodies and a variety of wild things over there.
Check it out by going to dunkintrustle.com
and clicking on the shop.
Now, without further ado,
today's guest never fails to blow my mind
and I was actually nervous about interviewing him,
not because he's a world-renowned channeler,
but because the last time I was around him,
the energy that comes out of him when he channels
is so intense that it kind of freaks me out.
So I was a little nervous about this interview
that you're about to hear,
but there was no reason for me to be nervous
because Paul Selig is transmitting
some pretty amazing information
and whoever the beings may be
that are working through Paul Selig
or some pretty amazing creatures, instis,
you can find out everything you need to know
about Paul Selig by going to his website,
PaulSelig.com.
Links will be at dunkintrustle.com.
Now, without further ado, everyone,
please welcome to the Dunkin' Trussell family,
our podcast, Paul Selig.
Yodoo Jeologique
Welcome, welcome on you
That you are with us
Shake it, you're going to be blue
Welcome to you
It's the Dunkin' Trussell video
Paul, welcome back to the DTFF
It's great to see you again
You look great, the last time I saw you, you had a cold
I did have a cold, yeah
And you have recovered fully in a few years
I recovered very well, thank you
It must be nice to travel down here from New York to you
I love it, yeah, that's where I live
But I travel a lot and then this is a great place to be
And you're going up to Monterey to do a retreat
I'm doing a retreat at Isilomar, yeah
How often do you find yourself traveling?
About three weekends a month, you know
It's about it, sometimes I'll stay on the road for a bit
Sometimes I won't, but I enjoy it and I enjoy the work
So, you know, it's an opportunity for me to be in the world
Otherwise I'm probably going to just hide in my apartment
Right, well that's a lot of us are doing that right now
I was sitting on my porch just looking out
And because you can see all these yards
And they're all just empty, it's a beautiful day
I have just ventured out for the first time
And maybe like a day and a half to really get some sun
Because it's so easy to stay inside
But I was looking out just thinking, my god, we've all
Retreated into our homes
Why, what do you think that is?
I don't know, I mean, I've always been like that truthfully
So, you know, when I'm not traveling
I'm happy to hibernate, I have a dog, I have a fireplace
I live in New York, it's very loud, there's a lot of people
And so I venture out, I have my experience of the real world
And then I retreat, you know, as quickly as possible
Do you think that your line of work and your ability
And your connection with this transcendent force
Is disrupting your life here?
Do you ever feel like it's hard to connect to this place?
No, I mean, not anymore so than it ever was
You know, I mean, I think I'm one of those people
That operated well in the world, you know, I had a life
I was a college teacher, you know
I had things that I did that I love
But I'm highly empathic and that's a challenge sometimes
So when I'm being hit by a lot of stuff
I'm aware of it, but the work that I do as a channel
Is an intrusive, you know, when I'm, my guides
I always say, you know, they're not going to talk to me
Unless I ask a question, I mean, if I say
You know, if I want to walk into traffic, I can do it
That's up to me
If I say this is a good time to cross the street
They may say not wise, you know
And counsel at that level, but no
You know, I'm not bombarded by things from the other worlds
Oh, right
Well, it's, so, you know, what is it
What's that quote people say all the time?
The mad man drowns in the waters
That the mystic swims within
Yeah
And so what I've noticed happening to some of my friends
And stories is that people will drink ayahuasca
People will have some big psychedelic moment
Where they go into the other realms
Where they see it for real
Or they are as real as they can believe it's real
And then they get back here
And they don't want to connect anymore to this place
They withdraw
Because they can't deal with investing themselves here
In this particular zone of the universe
When they know there's this
But you're able to, this bifurcation of the
It's normal for me now
So that's sort of how I live, you know
And when I first started opening up
When I was in my late 20s, early 30s
I was surprised by it all
And I had a couple of big peak experiences
That they weren't induced by ayahuasca or anything else
I mean, they really just sort of happened
And they were large enough for me
That they gave me a marker for something that exists
In a way of being in the world that could be experienced
But it was always about a way of being in the world
And what my guides bring through is about being in the world
And being in the body
And having this experience as your operative
It's not about floating off someplace
I mean, I've done anything a human being can do
To try to check out, you know
Over the course of my life
And that doesn't work
You know, it really is about sort of
I think at this point
Sort of learning how to maintain a sense of connection
You know, in the face of a lot of stuff
That doesn't seem to make much sense
But I see that too
I see these people that have these really large experiences
And they don't really know how to integrate them
You know, so you just want to go back to the big experience
And I don't know
I think the experiences we get
For me, they were enough
And the ones that I had were enough
To show me that there was a reality
That could be experienced and known
And that kept me going more than anything else
It kept me moving forward
Oh, sure, right
What a relief, I suppose
Because suddenly you do see that this
Thing you've been hearing about
Or maybe, you know, depicted in movies
Oh, no, actually
There is a lot more going on here
Than what you think
If what you think is going on here
Is based on mainstream media
And what they teach you in public schools
And, man, for me
That is, you know, just sweet water
From the fountain of youth
But then, another part of me
Starts getting really curious
And interested in why
This other place is not acknowledged here
Why is it so
Like destroyed by skeptics
And scientists
And just the general concept is like
Oh, great, you're going to talk about aliens now
Oh, spirits, really?
No, it's all matter
And so then I start getting conspiratorial
And think, there is an actual
Active sort of
For maybe it's a subconscious intent
But there does seem to be a rather
Active pressure against
Understanding that there's something bigger
In here
Do you ever drop that?
Yeah, but I have my own version of it
Which is my own belief
That I can kick into
And this is how I came to this whole thing
With this real investment and separation
And feeling myself as being extremely separate
From whatever you might call God
Or other people or whatever
And what happens, I think, for some of us
Is we sort of fall through that trapdoor
Into this other kind of experience
But my personality self
Which my guides would call the small self
Still has a great investment in that stuff
In separation
So once I get the understanding
That separation is the big lie
That's the big lie
And that everything that wants to counter that
Is everything that wants to maintain a status quo
In my guide say, the small self
Is always perpetuating the known
Or what it has believed to be true
Because it can't conceive of anything beyond it
And what they're teaching now
Which is really mind blowing
Is they're calling it beyond the known
And it's really what happens when you stop investing
In the collective agreement
And they do this energetically
So that you're actually lifting to a place
Of vibration or consciousness
That's operating beyond the rules
Or the things that we've been taught to believe were true
But do I think that there's a conspiracy per se?
You know, I kind of think the challenge with that
Is if I want to go there
And I can go there
I end up aligning to the level of consciousness
That creates the conspiracy
I end up lowering the vibration
And you really can't transform anything
That you're in energetic accord to
You have to go above it
To have the higher experience
And then lift it to you
Which is a reconception
And that's sort of what I understand is alchemy
And the realization of the divine
That must exist in all things
Because whatever you want to call God
Or the universe or spirit
Must exist in everything
Including those things that I would call separate
And the moment I do that
I lift it
I mean the guy would say
You know, whatever you dam dams you write back
You know, whatever your bless blesses you
So I can go there if I want to
But I choose not to
Wow, cool
I love it
I'm reading a great book right now
By Jaron Lanier
Who coined the term virtual reality
He's just a super genius
You know, just super genius
He's when he's like ten
He's cutting glass for telescopes
And that kind of mind
But he was talking about how
Virtual reality
If there was time travel
And someone from 20 years in the future
Brought VR back
And we could experience that technology
It would be indistinguishable
From where we're at right now
We wouldn't be able to tell the difference
Between the VR world
Depending on whatever they'd programmed for it
But he was saying if we went back in time
And showed virtual reality to someone
Ten years ago that we have now
They would feel like it was pretty indistinguishable
From reality
Because their experience was only
They'd only experienced the technology up to that point
So his point is
You know, we can't see past where we're at right now
When it comes to VR
Because this is what we're used to
It just reminds me what you're saying
Is like to really understand
This level of consciousness
Or whatever
What would your guides call this part of the universe?
Well, they talk about collective agreement
So, I mean, this level of vibrate
This level of vibratory accord
Which is sort of the agreed upon reality
That we're all operating in
So we all know what a sky is
And what an ocean is, you know
And we've been taught the names for everything that exists
So what we do when we walk down the street
Is we're actually sort of, you know
Interpreting the data of history
That's a chair, that's a post office box
That's the sky
So it's not to say that those things don't exist
They all do exist
But actually they can all be sort of
Re-comprehended, re-understood
What they call a higher octave
They use musical terms
You know, they say this is one octave
And you get to lift to the next one
They say any song can be played in multiple octaves
Into infinity
So you can lift to the next level
And then you sort of begin to have that experience
Of the ocean and the sky
Which doesn't necessarily conform
To what they would say is the data of history
What things, what we've been taught
That things should mean
Because that's what they've always meant
It sounds like they look at this
Level of reality, this agreement
This level of consensus reality
As like a blindfold almost
It's like we've been, it's obscuring
Yeah, it is
I mean I don't know if they call it a blindfold
But it's what we've been taught to expect
And we're all, I mean I know
What it means to be a man
Because I grew up in a male body
In a culture that says this is what a man is
And we go into sort of a conferring of that
I think in every area of our life
In this energetic work
Because I remember when we did the live show
And just not being prepared
For the energy that was blasting out of you
When you were doing it
And people in the audience were crying
Because no one, I don't think anyone was right
I don't know, it was pretty shocking
So the work you're doing
It's not just data
It's a healing work
Where you're blasting people
I'm sorry to use that term
Invigorating people with this energy
That's pushing them up an octave
Yeah, I mean I don't know that I'm doing it
I think it's what happens
The guides that I work with work with
They call them claims of truth or attunements
That are spoken
That actually they say encodes the energetic field
To have this lifting
And it's experiential
I mean I'm not a spiritual teacher
I'm not a guru
I have no interest in that stuff at all
But I'm a channel
And I sit down in the chair and I hear
And there's this energy
That's very palpable
That comes through when I work
But the point is not to feel the energy
That's broadcasting through Paul
It's attuning to that in yourself
So that you can do the lifting
And when you do the lifting
You get to lift everything that you encounter
It's all about co-residence
So what happened when we worked
You know before an audience is
The energy showed up
People did the attunements
Everybody sort of got their lifting
And then they're going
What the hell just happened
And the nice thing is
Is that they were feeling it
You were feeling it
And I think what that supports
Is the individual's ability
To claim their own knowing
And the moment you claim your own knowing
You're not deferring to other people
Which is super important
Super important isn't it?
Oh you can get in so much trouble
Well this is the
This is what people are saying
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this
People are saying that
One of the great problems
With social media right now
Is that it's
Attuning people
To a variety
Of flavors
Of this particular reality that we're in
From the most paranoid
To insanely naive
To some tricky thing put out
In a situation to look like a thing
That it isn't
But it's all these tuning forks
And so people are going on Twitter
And they're getting psychic infections
From concepts, ideas
That point to a reality
That isn't even here
It's just something that someone made up
So yeah it sounds like
If we can figure out
Who we are
Truly
Then we might not be so prone to being lost
Or dragged about by ideas
That we're seeing in the mainstream media
I don't know that we can figure it out
I think that we can realize it
And I think figuring out is still
Sort of a process of the personality
I want to get all the pieces
And I want to make sense of them
And then I'm going to know who I am
And then how to operate
And I'll know what's true and what's not true
Because I figured it out
And what the guide says
You know what's true is always true
And has always been true
And will always be true
And so to align to a level of truth
Then you get to move into realization
Because to know something
To truly know it is to realize it
And that's then to be in your own knowing
And once you're in your own knowing
You're not in energetic accord
With the bullshit
You see what I mean?
So it sort of doesn't resonate
At that level
It's challenging for me
Because I still have an investment
In what I think should be there
And how people should see me
And you know how I should be understood
And that's again all just a small self
The true self that I am
Couldn't care less
What anybody thinks
Do you understand?
Yeah
So I'm probably not answering your question
It was actually a good one
Because I'm even forgetting how you said it
If you want to say it again
I can go back in
Well it's the question
The question is
It's more of an observation
That the importance
Of understanding attunement
Well it's everything
You see
Because attunement is your energetic alignment
So you know
In the new age
You hear people say
You know I create my own reality
You know
And I think that's a little narcissistic sometimes
You know
Like in the guides would say
You know you didn't create the war
In the Middle East
But you're in energetic accord with it
Which means you're attuned to it
Because everything that you see
And I see and anybody sees
We're in energetic accord with
Because it couldn't exist without us
And this is this whole idea of
You know whatever we're witnessing
We're in vibrational accord too
And actually sort of supporting
The manifestation of
You know which goes to this idea of
Well here was the example
Because they dictated
This was in one of their books
You know in the guides books
And I said
I mean does that mean
If there's a book on a table in Paris
I'm in accord with the book on the table in Paris
And they said yes
The moment you know
That there's a book on the table in Paris
Yes
Because your consciousness is informing the book
Wow
And how you hold anything in consciousness
Supports your relationship to it
And the collective is doing this
So the guides say
You know as long as you are in agreement to war
Because you expect it
Because you've always have it
You're going to keep claiming it
Right
And you've got to lift to a level of consciousness
Where that is not present
In order to be able to claim another reality
Got it
Beautiful
But you know this is not to go back to it
It's just
Okay
An Uber driver told me something
That I think about to this day
He was talking about weapons manufacturers
And he said
If you're making umbrellas
You need it to rain
You got it
And so
Right
Now this is where
It gets really creepy to me
Which is that
There are a group of people attempting to attune all of us
To a paradigm where war is acceptable
Yes
Yeah
And it's fear
You know the guides say again and again and again
The action of fear is to claim more fear
And if you look at the last choice you made in your life
Because you were afraid
See what it got you
And more than likely you'll see you got more fear
So every choice made in fear perpetuates
That vibratory accord
And every choice you're making in love
I would suggest
Or without fear
Of actually supporting a whole other trajectory
Right
So you know the idea
That we're claiming these things
You see I mean I was in New York during 9-11
You know I lived downtown
You know and then in the months and months that followed
There were you know red alerts and yellow alerts
And orange alerts
And for the first five months everybody was so frightened
Sure
And then we got sick of these damn alerts
And people just sort of get in the subway again
You know and live their lives and the alerts went away
We stopped going into agreement
That we should be scared all the time
And if we're going to be scared all the time
We're very easy to control
And I do believe that
So the idea is to sort of realize
The aspect of our self or the true self
What the guides would say
That is operating beyond fear
And move into that level of vibrational accord
Right
Wow
God it's so cool
It's just such a great paradigm
I want to get back into something I was asking about earlier
This okay so this is your
The way you're talking about this sort of
This universe is that we live in a place
That we sort of agreed to be at
With a group of beings or people or things
That vibrate at that level
But simultaneously to that
There is another version of this
Another lens
Another I don't know
God it makes me think like this is all computer code
And there's another operating system
We can reprocess the code through
That could make this look completely different
So how different does this other place get
How different does it get from this place
Are there palatial heavenly mansions
Are there you know forests
I don't get that
I actually don't get that
I mean I get that what we're doing is
We're experiencing what exists
But we're experiencing it in a very different way
And how we experience it actually transforms
The reality of what we're experiencing
So everything gets lifted
So the idea I think that we're excluding things
You see from the divine
From the sort of the tapestry that's life
That we're saying well this should be here
And it should all look like a celestial heavenly palace
Because that's what heaven should look like
Is actually deciding what gets excluded
Which we're doing again by relying on all that old data
Of what's good, what's bad, what's beautiful, what's not
So you know in the most recent book
The one they just finished dictating another one
You know because the books are all just sort of
The recordings, the transcriptions of the dictations
They're unedited transcripts of these sessions
This I interrupt a lot to say
What does it look like, what does it look like
What are you really talking about
What's our experience of this
And I suspect I mean if I were to try to remember
What they said and I may have to bring them through
And let them do this at some point
Because it's just I tend to not to interpret it terribly terribly well
They're saying what you see is what's always been there
They're saying but operating at a higher level
And your congruence with that is what transforms you
Is what transforms you and the landscape and the landscape
They're saying the landscape is lifted
They're saying is lifted by your presence by your presence
And by the octave that you express in the high note
The high note calls all things to it
It calls all things to it and lifting and lifting
The high note
What are some other names for the high note
Is this the God Ed?
Yes if you wish to call it
This thing yes if you wish to call it that
Call it the vibration of truth
You may call it love
This thing you may call it love if you want to
If you want to
They're saying but these are other ways
Of knowing God
To know God is to know truth is to know truth
And to know love and to know love
It really has nothing to do with it
They're saying with religion it's a state of consciousness
A state of consciousness and an awareness of unity
With all sorts of things
They're saying with all that's always been expressed
But not experienced but not experienced
By the personality structure who is an alignment
Who is an alignment by its nature
By its nature to limitation to limitation
Okay okay
So this makes beautiful sense to me
But I have a sense and many people have a sense
That there is an active shift happening
That there's some kind of intentionality behind
Perhaps the other beings like your guides
To try to up level this place
Is that truly happening?
Yes I get that you know
But I also get this they're saying for me
Now that I've got them plugged in
They're like saying say this
But I know if they want to say it
They're pointing to me
So what they've said in their books
And they said this in the very first book
Which they brought through in 2009
Was the very first one
It was like seven of them now
But they said that humanity
Is a state of reckoning
And a reckoning is a facing of oneself
And all of one's creations
And everything that's been created in fear
And that includes institutions and religions
And everything else has got to be reclaimed
Or renown or realized and new in a higher way
Because everything is going to start falling
But basically everything is falling apart
And that's actually part of this process
I believe of sort of acclimating to
To a higher potential
There's no way to get to this higher potential
Without some kind of collapse?
That I don't know
I hear that that's choice
You're choosing it right now
I hear you're choosing it right now
Your investment
In what has been
How you've known yourself
How you have known yourself
As in fact the issue is in fact the issue
When you claim something new
When you claim something new
And try to hold the old
And try to hold the old
You move into a junction
You move into a juncture
A juncture of frustration
Of frustration to release the old
To release the old is not destroyed
Is not to destroy
It's a claim what can come
In its place
It is to claim what can come
In its place
Many of you decide to ruin things
Many of you decide to ruin things
Before you can rebuild
Before you can rebuild
It's not because
But they're saying
But it's not a prerequisite
How many beings are there
Like your guides out there
I have no clue
And I've never asked
I mean I work with this little posse
And I just know of them as a posse
Because they use we
It's not like I'm looking around
The room at them all the time
Many many
What they're saying is many many
And more than you can even imagine
That's pretty true
But there are aspects of each of you
Know it or not know it or not
That are enlisted
Enlisted in this operation
So the true self is imbued with you
So the true self of each of you
Who comes forth with yours
Who comes forth to be realized
In this engagement
In this engagement
Is contributing to the shift
It's not all external
It's not all external
It's quite internal
It's quite internal
It was done
The realization of the divine
That must be inherent
That must be inherited
All manifestation
In all manifestation
Is what is being claimed
Is what is being claimed
God in the tree
God in the tree
God in your foot
God in your foot
God in the one you can stand
God in the one you can stand
In that situation
In that situation
That you find abhorrent
That you find abhorrent
To lift all things
To lift all things to a higher agreement
To a higher agreement
Is to know and to realize
And to realize the divine exists
The divine that exists
Wherever you are
Wherever you are
Period
Thank you
That's amazing
And it brings me to a question
I did have for you
And the guide
Which is
Right now we are seeing
A true reckoning happen
And a lot of different levels
The Supreme Court justice
Experiencing the results
Of his karma
This crucial moment in his life
People are so angry with each other
And the guides have mentioned this
See God in the abhorrent
This I think for me
I get to this part
And I can intellectually understand
But in practice
When we run into beings
Who have legitimately heard us
When we were kids
You know when we were helpless
How do we see
How to do this
How to forgive
How to connect
At that level
When someone's really, really vile
Well they're saying they'd like
To take the song
Which is just as well
I mean because I struggle with it too
And I get it
And I also get that I'm not doing this
For the other person
I'm doing this for myself
Because basically
By tethering myself
Or aligning myself
To that other person
At that level of judgment
Or fear or anger
I'm lowering my own vibration
That doesn't mean
That I don't get to feel my feelings
And move beyond them
But it goes to this simple idea
Again of what you damn, dams you back
You know in one of their books
They do this meditation
Or they say you know
Imagine you're walking into a cave
And in that cave is the one person
You never want to see again
As long as you live
And your job now
Is to lead that person out of the cave
And you know you're doing that
Because basically you've put them there
And they've called you
To the darkness that you put them in
Do you understand that?
So it's not about going out
To dinner with them
And saying hey it wasn't that great
I mean maybe after this lifetime
We get to have a big yuck
About all the crazy crap we went through
But that's not where I'm at now at all
So let me go to the guides with this
The idea is simple
They're saying the idea is simple
Nothing can be outside of God
Except that which you place there
If you want to do what you may
If you want to do it you may
But then you call that to you
But then you call that to you
That's how you want to operate
If that's how you want to operate
You may choose it
You may choose it
Learn those lessons
And learn those lessons
You will learn regardless
Of what you choose
But if you want to learn through fear
By a hard teacher
It will be a hard teacher period
They're saying period
There's something that they wrote
It was in
I think it's in the book
That's just coming out
And they said you know
Right after
They did this odd lecture
And they said so what's happening now
And this is before a lot of the stuff
That we're seeing in the media
Really hit
And they said what's happening now
Is an excavation
They said imagine that everything
That was buried in your backyard
Is in your backyard
You know what you buried
Five months ago
And 5,000 years ago
Individually and collectively
It's all coming up to the surface
And it's coming up to the surface
To be re-seen
Or realized or renown
Because it can't be healed
When we're sitting on it
And hiding it
Do you understand that
So then this becomes
Then a part of the process
Not a comfortable one
I don't think
But they say imagine
Looking at that backyard
With all the potholes
And piles of dirt
I mean it's an excavation site
And that seems to be a little bit
Of where we may be
In this process now
My father just passed away
And I don't know what it has to do with that
Or that I have a child
On the way or what it is
But suddenly I've been having
Just photographic memories
From my childhood
Huge blind spots in my childhood
Just missing years
Now suddenly
Holy shit man
All coming back
And a lot of it is really
Difficult to look at
And man I just don't
I don't know that we're ready
If people are ready
To deal with this kind of excavation
It is pretty intense
To see these things
And then have to find forgiveness
You have to figure out a way
I think it's happening anyway
Do you know?
I think it's happening anyway
I mean I think letting go
Of the need to blame
Is an important part of it
Because I think that that ties us
To the problem
You know and not to move beyond
And that's not to deny
That things don't happen
And people do awful things
I don't think that that's ever been the teaching
But I mean they say
That the guides have said
You know the one that's doing
These things that you would call terrible
Is operating in a complete
Unawareness of who he or she truly is
You know they're operating in fear
And at the cost of their true nature
Which the guides would say
Is the divine self
They say that the divine is present
Everybody regardless of what they've done
How they think of themselves
And whether or not they know
Or even agree to it
And when they work with these attunements
Which they call claims of truth
And you know one of them is
I know who I am in truth
I know what I am in truth
I know how I serve in truth
I am free I am free I am free
I am free
Now the personality self
Can't really claim that
My personal self is like
Well I'm this old
And I look like this
And I wish I looked like that
And I should have done this
And that's at the level of the true self
Or the eternal self
Whatever you want to call it
That is the aspect of self
That does know who he or she or it is
So the claim is always true
I know who I am
I know what I am
What means in manifestation
The divine that has come in form
As who and what you are
And I know how I serve
Simply means how I express
How you express as that
Aspect of the divine
That's your expression
And you know in truth means
In the field of truth
Where the lie
When they say in truth the lie
Can't be held
So you move to that level of agreement
And the claim I am free
Is basically I am free of the lies
Of what I've been taught to believe
That allows me to express this
So this is the challenge
That's always true
I can say to you now
I know who you are in truth
I know what you are in truth
I know how you serve in truth
You are free
You are free
You are free
And at the causal level
That's always true
Even you say that can't be true
My life's a mess
And I don't understand
I don't know who I am
But you're claiming the true self
Now when you do that
You're actually aligning
The person you're claiming it to
To be able to shift to that
Level of frequency
It's kind of like plugging in numbers
On a jukebox
And the song will play
You're not changing people
You're claiming what's always true
The challenge is to do that
To the one you can't stand
And then the one you think is a villain
Or a abhorrent
Because it's got to be true
For that person as well
Or it's not true for anybody
And this idea that some people
Are special and nice and good
And they get to go to some idea of heaven
At the end of life
If they've behaved well
At the exclusion of all those people
That don't agree with us
I mean that's the hypocrisy of religion
I mean if God is everything
It's got to include everything
And even fear
And the gods say fear is of God
It just refuses to believe that it is
And once that wakes up
We're not going to have that issue
And we can go to that place
By lifting above it
To the higher octave
See when you're operating at
What they call the higher octave
By nature of your being
Which is the claim I know how I serve
You're lifting into expression
What you say
Because how could you not
It's this old idea that God
Or whatever you want to call God
Sees God in everything
Can't exclude
Then you've got a punishing God
Who says this one goes to heaven
This one goes to hell
And I think we have Carmen
We have our choices
And the ramifications of our choices
That play out
And that's a way to learn
We can learn through fear
If we want to
We've been doing it
But what the gods say is
You've created the means
For your mass destruction
In the pretense
That it's going to make you safe
Which is crazy
If you think about it
To build a bigger bomb
So you can be more safe
Is insane
You understand
But that's where we've come to
So we're really at this place now
Of the need for great change
Yeah
A quick word from our sponsors
Much thanks to the good people of RX Bar
For supporting this episode of the DTFH
If you've ever found yourself
Looking at the ingredients in a protein bar
And wondering if the recipe came
From a page in the Necronomicon
Then RX Bar is for you
Do you really want to pour
Bizarre chemical amalgamations
Into your sweet body temple?
Do you really want to
Masticate unknown chemicals
In the same mouth that you lick
And kiss your lover's trembling body with?
If your answer to that question
Is a deafening no
Then our X Bar
Has got what you need
Our X Bar
You've seen these bars before
They list their core ingredients
Which are as simple as it can get
Egg whites for protein
Dates to bind
Nuts for texture
And other delicious ingredients
Like unsweetened chocolate
Real fruit and spices
Like sea salt or cinnamon
Turns out real ingredients
Actually taste really good
They're gluten free
Soy free
Dairy free
And they're great
If you need a breakfast on the go
Snack at the office
Toss into your backpack
For a bike ride or a hike
Or if you're creating
A underground shelter
And you want to have healthy snacks
After the depletions attack
Which is going to happen in two weeks
Our X Bar
Is coming 14 delicious flavors
Including mango pineapple
Chocolate hazelnut
Peanut butter and berries
Chocolate sea salt
Coconut chocolate
Mixed berry
Blueberry
Apple cinnamon
And they have seasonal flavors too
In case you want to eat a healthy bar
To celebrate Gorlog's birth
In the pyramid of dreams
And now our X Bar has debuted
Our X nut butter
Which contains a few simple and similar
Ingredients like egg whites, fruits
And nuts
I like our X bars
Friends, I eat our X bars
Well, because I'm 44
Now I've actually got to be careful
About what I put in my body
You should be careful too
No matter how old you are
Even if you're three
You should be careful
About what you're dropping in there
The illusion that some of these people
Actually give a shit about what they're spraying
Into their food is a byproduct
Of the hardcore hypnotic conditioning
That we experienced in the America
Of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s
And maybe even the last few years
Some people just don't really care
And they're filling up their
Oil canisters with
Just anything that they can
Swipe off the top of the exhaust pipes
Of top secret government jets
And then they just turn that into something
That looks like a bar and put on the front
Some clever packaging and name
And the next thing you know
You're chomping down on what is essentially
A piece of Chernobyl
But you don't have to do that anymore
You can actually eat a healthy, delicious bar
That's rxbar.com
And right now if you want
25% off your first order
25%
Visit rxbar.com
And enter promo code
Duncan at checkout
That's 25% off your first order
Visit rxbar.com
And enter promo code
Duncan at checkout
Scoop them up
Take advantage of this deal
You can support this podcast by showing your support
rxbar
And also you never know man
At any second the sun can
Go into a complete dead solar minimum
The satellites could fall from the sky
And the next thing you know
All you've got to eat is unhealthy protein bars
And you don't want that
When you're trying to survive
And fight the skeletons
And massive metallic spiders
That are going to wage war
On humanity in just a few weeks
Again that's for 25%
Visit rxbar.com
And enter promo code
Duncan at checkout
Thanks rxbar
Now back to Paul Selig
This
This is to me
All this is just
You're so good at describing this
And always my mind gets blown
Hanging out with you
But to me
What's really interesting about what you're doing
And the
Structure of it
Is that when you consider
The combination of what you're talking about
With technology
You know because what we're seeing is like oh I get it
Like on social media we're just seeing people
Who using your guides
Teachings have aligned themselves
With fear
And so these are the fear tweets
On either side right or left
Whatever it may be the leftists are
You know going to lead a communist uprising
You know the conservatives
Have no it's not it's a fucking oligarchy
Clearly
And all the stuff in between
Man the economy is really going to
Climb national debt is insane
Then like my god the Chinese
Have made like a
Crazy UFO level thing
And it looks like the Russians
They have shit in the floating
In orbit right now that like
I don't know if you saw the rushing
Nesting doll satellite
Spits out these three little satellites
You know what the other ones are doing up there
So what I'm saying is and I'm sorry
To be part of it but I don't feel afraid
I'm just giving examples
So we have this constant
Sort of low level fear drone
Bubbling up out of social media
So what you're saying to me is a little revolutionary
Which is the idea that
Should we attune ourselves to this other level
This seeing god and all things
Or this like
Shift to the
New octave that you're describing
Or that with social media
Yeah now we've got
Something crazy because when
You know the Buddha achieves enlightenment under the
Bodhi tree and look how long it takes for the Dharma
To spread around the planet a long time
But what you're talking about
We just need a few people to get
To the place that you're at right now
To achieve this attunement right
And then when that hits
Technology whoa
It's revolutionary I hope
I mean I think it can be if somebody wants to take
On you know it's not
I'm not the teacher you know I'm a channeler
I explain what comes through me
But the guides that come through
Are the teachers I'm just this guy
That's trying to work through it
I want to talk to you about this real quick
And
Maybe it's a little mundane
Compared to the very beautiful
Ideas your guides are putting forth
But one thing I've noticed
Is this separation
Between you and the writing
You don't remember some of it
You have a kind of
Humility when it comes to it
And then also you
Do say quite often I'm not really
A teacher I'm a channeler
So I'm really interested in this
Do you feel like this is a
Necessary separation to continue
Your work like if one
Could tangle up the other
It's not intentional I mean
I'll say that it's not premeditated
You know I was you know I was a college
Teacher for years and I was a good teacher
And I loved doing it and that was a great part
It was the healthiest part of my life
I was doing the channeling
Stuff and the energy work
In a whole very
Quiet way for many years
I had a group that met in my apartment for 18 years
I had a website finally without
My name on it or my photograph
Because I didn't want people to know
That I was doing this stuff because I was trying
To maintain this other life
So some of that and then I realized that
It was fear and then once I started
Getting attention for the books
I had to
Accept the fact that you know
I was party to this experience
And I don't claim
The separation I mean it's not
I think there's an
Emerging that happens
When I'm working
And that I'm accessing a higher
Part of myself but I don't think
That the guides are my higher self
That I'm bringing through I think
They're working
In a somewhat different way
I can't explain it all
I just know that
You know I'm accessing stuff
That
I don't think I could know and I don't
Think however articulate I may be
As a man I'm capable of closing
My eyes and dictating
You know six or seven books that don't require
Any editing which is how these things
Have happened you know I mean there's
I don't go back and fix anything
So the separation
Pieces for me I but I do think
And I do think this is important I do
Think that what's happening as I do
This work is I begin
To be more as
My true self and
That they operate through me
You know in a more of a place
Of union so it's not
This crazy up
And down that it used to be
As I get more comfortable here
Do you have a
Physical side that you feel them on
Do you feel them in your body
Or no no I mean there's
Phenomena for me I mean
When I sometimes
When I first started doing this years ago
I literally used to feel that somebody had
Their lips pressed against my far head
And I was feeling the vibration of the words
As they and then I would form them
With my lips which is sort of how
I got into this whispering and repeating habit
Because there was this slight delay
As it went from the buzzing
Here to the mouth
And now
Very often before I start
To channel before I'm doing a group
Or a dictation for the book and the books
Are now done in front of groups so you know
There's no separation there
I'll feel a lot of pressure
At my head at the crown or
At the third eye or sometimes I'll just
Feel myself enveloped in the energy
I mean I can be
Sick I can have I channel
The end of the last book I think with
You fever you know
And they were the guides were fine
When I saw you you were sick
Is there some correlation between this
If you're running this circuitry
Through you do you feel like it's
It could make you protein
Yeah I think it can and I think
Some of that's my self care
Which I have to learn and I'm much
Better with than I used to be truthfully
But I think my nervous system
Is what's used so when I'm
Channeling a lot
I'm highly raw
You know I mean you could drop a
Fork in the next room and I jump out of
My skin I mean it's just like my nerve
And it's like it's like having a sunburn
I have friends that call it psychic burn
So I don't think this is not
I think this is not uncommon
So that's some sensitivity
But I think I get a lot of calls because
I'm riding on airplanes all the time
And you know and I'm schlepping
Through different time zones
So no I don't think that there's that
Is interesting I've been told I haven't seen
It that when I'm really channeling
Sometimes and I'm working directly
With individuals my eyes turn bright blue
I mean I have hazel eyes you know
And I think that that's
Interesting and it's funny because
I'll do a group and I'll say
And you know and there's a thing where
The guys will just go around them and look
At everybody and attune them you know
Individually and people raise
Their hands and you have the most beautiful
Blue eyes as well I don't have blue eyes
And it goes what you know and that's
What they've seen so I mean
I understand I don't know what it is
You know so there's a physical component
To this but and this is true for all of us
What they've said is we've been raised
To believe that the divine is sort of
Up there somewhere in a cloud
Maybe and we're stuck here in the mud
And the teaching is that God is the mud
And God is also the body
And the exclusion of the body
From this equation of the divine
Is what is precluding us
From realizing the divine
And the physical reality that we're
Living in so that's the claim
I know what I am which is informed
Which allows me then to know
What you are which is the
Realization of the divine expressing
As you and the matter itself and vibration
Wow why
It's so weird why
Why can't we acknowledge it
It's insane it really is like when
I look around everything's
Perfect I can see that most
Of the time my God just form itself
My God look how incredible it is
That we have physics
Gravity it's all very beautiful
To me but then
In darker times
As soon as the focus goes
From there to me
That's where you're like no
What a nightmare creature
This is completely a mess
Why
Why do we do that I hear
Training agreement
Vibratory accord
What you choose to reinforce
What you've been taught
That's what we've been taught
What we've been confirming
I don't think that the way the guides
Are bringing through is necessarily a new teaching
I mean they say it comes they've been teaching
This stuff for thousands of years and
That this is the next opportunity
For realization for us you know
It's not new stuff so
You know I can accept that but
I think that the indoctrination
Into fear was pretty extraordinary
Which is still present
You should be afraid you know
Is this from your parents is this from
Yeah it was I mean
In this lifetime yeah you know
I mean I believe
That I've had prior lives where
I've had some tough lessons in fear too
But yeah I mean I was the chubby
Kid that got bullied you know
So that carries some weight
And you know as I move
Beyond that my experience
Of myself is very different in the world
But those buttons were put there yeah
That's it
Oh my god it's just
It's a it's a brutal
Back there is so rough on kids
I think it's because I have a son coming
And I'm just thinking like man I want him to be like
Loved here and it's
It's so brutal like
And then when I contemplate my own teachings
And the teachings I got
And the teachings many of us got
When we're born that we were taught
This is not a safe place
And that there's no real
Security here and that they're always on
Depending not everyone but if you were born
Into like a poor family
Or you were born into alcoholism
Trauma man it's a pretty
Rocking universe sometimes it feels like
There's no way to truly
Get that
For lack of a better word
Thorn out of our sides
We can expand beyond
It but the guides
Or do you have anything to say about
The idea that there's a potential
To shift
All of that suffering into something
I'm going to ask because I can yes
I'm going to say yes if you want to
But do you really want
It means forgetting who you think you are
Who you think you are and who you think you are
Is wounded and hurt is wounded and hurt
And suffering and suffering
And you look for agreement to that
Tell me my life tell me in my life
How I can be these things how I will continue
To be these things
And you perpetuate them
Unconsciously unconsciously the true self is you
The true self as you who knows
Who he is who knows who he is has never been harmed
Has never been harmed knows himself
And wholeness knows himself
And wholeness and seeks to confirm that
And seeks to confirm that
We are not dismissing what you feel
But what we are saying is
It is not who you are
It's how you have known yourself
And how you have chosen to have
To agree to your life
To your life agreement and support
Agreement means accord not conscious
Choice not conscious choice
You are confirming your reality
You are confirming your reality
Through the identity you claim
I am a wounded man I am a wounded man
Supports that reality supports that
Reality it's hard to get better
It is hard to get better to transform
Or to transform creates a long path
Creates a long path you may
Awaken a moment you may awaken
In a moment your true nature
To your true nature but at the cost
Of what you have known
And that's the great challenge here
And that's the great challenge here
Are you willing to release
The idea of who you are
Of who you are it's just an idea
It's just an idea nothing more
And nothing more period
It's like addiction
Or something it feels like
They're talking about like there's a sense
That we're hooked
On fear
Because your guides keep saying
You can do this
But there's other ways
And this feeling of like
You've got to give it all up
You've got to let it all go
It seems like a
This is a thing that happens to me
Invariably when I take a psychedelic
Depending on how strong the psychedelic is
If it completely just blasts my ego
And there is no way to hold on
To a beautiful transcendent unification
Complete this I don't know
There's a million different ways to describe this state
But if it's
If ever I find myself
At the place
Where there is a chance to die
To let go until just say goodbye
To the tiny little corner
Of the infinite universe
I've claimed as myself
I just can't do it
It seems like
Like I don't know
Once you get to that point
That your guides describe it's just a self
It feels like well for guides
Perhaps for you
A world renowned channeler
For many of us this concept of laying down our identity
Letting go of the past
Truly
It's terrifying because it feels like a kind of extinction
Well yeah but it can't be done
At the level of personality
And that's the whole challenge here
We're still thinking we can do this through the personality
And it's never going to happen there
And that's why I think they say it takes a moment
Because it's really
Only in a moment that realization occurs
You know it's not necessarily
And that's not like
It's a quick fix
It's not a fix at all
It's another way of knowing the self
Now when I'm channeling
I am operating
I'm actually putting
What you can call the personality itself
In the backseat of the car
I'm like giving it a magazine to read
And this other thing is happening
And as I maintain that
I begin to have this other
Experience of knowing
In my life
You know when I work psychically
Which is one of the things I do
They call me a medium for the living
So I can tune into somebody and
You know I've never met
It's not in the room it's still got a body
And I can often hear them
And feel what it's like to be in their skin
And sometimes take on their mannerisms
And that's how I do it
I just call it stepping in
But when I'm working at that level
I'm operating in my knowing
Do you understand this?
Because it makes no logical sense
You can't try to figure out how that's done
You know it by doing it
Like the guide say you know
When you're standing under the shower head
You're not trying to feel the water
The water is there
When you're standing in the wind
You're experiencing the wind
That's vibrational accord
So I don't think
Do I walk around with my complaining personality
Self ask my friends
I had a friend this morning that says
Let's just have a good day
Don't complain the answer was yes
Don't complain
I like complaining
It's again my way of being a curmudgeon
In the world
But it gets me what it gets me
Which isn't necessarily any good
Do you understand that?
I don't think that the personality is extinguished
They're telling me to say this
When I was
Maybe 32-33
I was having a really rough time
And
I was opening up as a channel
In those days
Significantly and I'm 99.9%
Sure I heard this in channel
Because I wrote it down I don't think I read it some place
But what I heard was
Freedom will come when the throne
Relinquishes its king
And I was like what the
What does that mean
Some enigmatic statement
And now I completely get it
Which is freedom comes
When the one who's sitting in the throne
Which in my case is
The personality's self
Who wants everything his way
And the world should treat me as I say
I should be treated and this is what should be in my world
That's the small self
And the small self dictates
A small kingdom
So when the small self
Steps out of the throne
And the true self
Which is the divine self
The guides have called it at times the Christ itself
And their definition of Christ is a simple one
They say it's the aspect of the divine
That can be realized in material form
Is who and what you are
Who anybody is
They say in all with humanity
It's the seed of the divine that seeks expression
So when the true self takes the throne
Then you have the kingdom
They say is the awareness of the divine
In all things
It's already there
But it needs to be seen by the one
Who operates in vibrational accord to it
So I don't get that it's at the
Exclusion of the small self
They say the small self
Is actually assumed
By the true self
You know it's like the loving energy
Of the
But you can call it parent
That's a rotten model because most of us
Had tough times with our parents
So who wants to use that one
But this idea of being
Having that level of alignment
They even talk about the braiding of the will
That the small self's will
And the divine will can actually be sort of braided
And then the small self's will is sort of assumed
In the higher
So that it becomes your expression
So we're not always going well
Who am I and what level am I operating at
I don't know if this is making sense
100%
It's beautiful because I love it
Because man everyone does kick the shit out
Of their small self
And I especially love what you said
I love complaining
And I have friends who are
Like that
And they love that aspect of themselves
They're like I love being a curmudgeon
It's the best
That is so perfect
And this self-flagellation we do
Is
Something I definitely forget all the time
It's not as though we have to
Throw ourselves into some cosmic
Ashtray and become some other thing
I love that
The self that we are
Gets to experience this embrace
Gets filled up so it doesn't have to be
So
Deflated I guess
Are people a little deflated
Cut off from the spirit
Is that what's happening
People have a tourniquet wrapped around them
I think so because I think everything
People come to the workshop sometimes
I say so I have a great spiritual life
But how do I bring this into my business life
And the question makes no sense
Because it's your life
Your spiritual life is your life
It's your sex life
It's your financial life
You don't segment these parts
By having a practice and wearing
A bunch of white and meditating
Every day
Those are things you can do
As a household and business
You're still responsible for that
Do you understand that and you're operating
At a level of vibration that's going to call
To you the ramifications
Of those choices
So the tourniquet I think has
I mean the idea of becoming
Spiritual as if it's something that one
Becomes I don't think one becomes
Spiritual I think it's your innate being
That's seeking expression
But this idea that this has to happen
At the cost of other things
That I think happened at the cost
Of who you think you are
But that's an idea
Nothing more than that
I don't know if I'm answering this well
But the idea of the tourniquet
Because when I first got into this stuff
I didn't know what to do with anything
I didn't know if I was allowed
To have a good time
I didn't know what it meant
And yes
That's choice too
We get choice, we have choice
You want to express yourself
What's your greatest joy
Whatever your expression of your greatest joy
Is going to bring joy to others
There's no question about that
Wow, this is so great
The only thing I take issue
With any of the things that you say
Is that you say you're not a teacher
To me it really makes me scratch
My head because I think
Well you are teaching
You have guides, they're teachers
But how are you not a teacher
I'm better, I'm more engaged
Than I used to be
But I call myself
The guy that sits in the chair
And when people come to
Hear me speak
I'll introduce myself and tell my story
Enough so that people have a context
For who I am
And then I close my eyes
And I'll hear one phrase repeated
Again and again until I speak it
And the moment I speak it
I'm operating as a radio
And the radio itself
Isn't necessarily the one to judge
The broadcast or to decide about it
So the teachings that come through me
I can then go back and discuss
But I'm not necessarily
And I say this quite honestly
I'm not there yet
So I can tell you what I understand
They mean
But am I operating without fear
No, you know
The difference is I know
What I'm operating in fear
I'm looking to excuse it
And I'm not looking for other people
To buy into that
And support me in my fear
I might be looking for a pat on the back
Or a hug, you know
But I'm not looking for you to agree
With me that the world is a terrible place
And we should all be afraid
And stockpiling guns in our basement
Or there's some terrible thing
How close are you to that?
In your personality
I grew up in a home like that
Preppers?
You mean preppers like people
Who thought the apocalypse
No, no, no, no
Just scared
The idea that the next thing
That would happen would be terrible
No matter what
So you're living in a world where you're expecting
The other shooter drop all the time
And that's lasted
I carry that
Still if I look at an email and say
What's the bad news
Necessarily that it's going to be loving
And I have to say
And I was thinking about this this morning
If I could move to a place
Truly move to a place
Which I hope
And I'm sort of putting this out there as a request
To my peeps
The idea that if I could move to a place
Where I could really get
The universe as loving
As a loving place
That would totally remake
My whole consciousness
And the thing is
I believe that's true intellectually
But I'm so busy looking at the evidence
To the contrary and affirming that
That I keep getting it
And when I say loving
I don't think that that means that people don't die
And people don't get hurt
And people don't make terrible
Errors of judgment
Because I think we do
And I also think these become our opportunities
To learn and to grow
You don't learn and grow
It's the same
None of us do
So if I could get to this place
Where I felt that the world
Was more welcoming
At that simple, simple level
Because some people I know live there
And they grew up that way
And I'm like wow, that's so interesting to me
I don't come from that
But I believe that it's so
So the teacher in me
And he's a good teacher
Can show up
And I'm a student of the work still
And maybe when I teach this stuff
I'm also teaching myself
To understand and that's how I learn it
But the day has yet to come
And I don't know if it will for some time
Where it's a weekend workshop
With Paul Selig and Paul Selig's not channeling
Because the guides
When the guides come through
I can carry the energy
I operate as a conduit for this stuff
And the energy is
Quite
Powerful for most people
Which is nice
But I don't confuse the energy
With me
And if I start doing that
I move into ego and then I move into
Look at how great I am
Another psychic once said to me
Paul, there's a reason you don't fully own this
Because you'd be impossible if you did
And I think that that can be true
Too
This is the universal problem
It's like
This is not universal
But many of us run into this predicament
And the
By us, I just mean people are trying to
Make the world better
Or are you just a sense like
Fuck, I think there is a way to really help this place
Get
Get a little prettier
Than it is right now
Or a little more connected
Or prettier is a lame way to describe it
But it's so funny
As I'm talking to you
They're awesome, they're amazing
Watching you do it
Inevitably is just
One of the craziest things I've ever seen
But you're awesome, man
And I think that
Finding
That place of realizing like
Well, the guides are cool
Well, they're cool
But man, you've got a greater
You've got an awesome personality
And that way that you're breaking down
To me is like a real teaching
You know, it's interesting
I love that you're honest about it
We're so imprinted, you know
Like all you need to do is be
The rotund child
And experience the
Many deep
Hardcore humiliations happening
Each day
And then throw on top of that
Any kind of turbulent family
And you've got more neurons in your brain
Than at any other time in your life
You're like, oh, you're a wax
And this
Wax is being imprinted
And it's a deep imprint, man
You know, it's a deep imprint
I don't know, though, when I look back on this
You know, I didn't get into this stuff
Because my life was going so great
I really didn't, you know
I had a list of things that I
Thought I had to do in the world to be okay
You know, by the time I was 25
And I got the whole list, you know
I wanted to, I had just gotten out of Yale
I was, you know, a playwright
I was being produced
I wanted to be an interview magazine
So I could get a hot date, you know
I got the whole thing
And then I was sort of bottoming out
In the Gopher Campus Motor Lodge
In St. Paul, Minnesota
Where I couldn't find drugs, you know
I mean, this was my party days
Where we're about to come to an abrupt
Abrupt end
And I started praying for the first time in my life
You know, because I was raised an atheist
And a few days later I heard a voice
Telling me to get my act together
And that was the first voice, you know
So the idea
That I got to go through
What I went through to come to
To be who I am
That doesn't mean that I think I'm noble
Because I had a...
A lot of people have crappy childhoods, you know
I mean, this doesn't make you special
But I do think that
Everything is an opportunity to learn
And if I can put
To begin to frame experience that way
Then I don't experience
Myself as being a victim
And that allows me then
To go on this journey
But if I'm so busy blaming
You know, which was an easy place for me to get stuck in
I'm not going to...
I'll get more of the same of that
Oh my God, it's so easy to do
This is a question, if you don't mind
May I ask one more question
Of you and maybe of the guys
And can we do an attunement again
Through the podcast?
For the listeners, people listening
So my question is
Based on this idea that you mentioned
Which is like, okay, if I see my past
As a lesson
Then I can work with it
Whereas if I see it as some chaotic thing
And now I'm a victim, then it's just
What are you going to do? You're just going to propagate the misery
I have been taught by people
I respect that we choose these
Incarnations
And that all of that stuff
Has been given to us as a gift
To evolve our consciousness
I believe it
In my mind, but in my heart
I think, come on
We see
So much suffering in the world
I see children
Dying in Syria
And it feels to me
Like this idea that, oh no, no, we choose this
Is a way to try to
Fix a concept
That there's just evil in the universe
And rotten things happen
I think rotten things happen
I think evil's a tricky word
I think the guides talk about it in one of the recent books
And I don't remember what they said
About it, but they do talk
About a spectrum of high and low
And they say when they talk about an octave
They talk about the low notes and the high notes
Do you understand that?
But it's all still existing as
Of God
Whatever you want to say
So in a lot of this stuff that we call suffering
Or is created by us
We're the ones doing it
And we perpetuate it
We're responsible to that
So I'm going to go and see if the guy could love to
They're saying we would love to
I'm going to see if I can do this when we have anything to say
Saying we have a few things to say about the question
About the question of why you're all choosing
You're all choosing individually
And collectively and collectively
When you incarnate their opportunities
Many of you get your lessons
Many of you get your lessons through challenges
Through challenges that's only one way to learn
That's only one way to learn
If you wish to perpetuate the challenges
You've had
You will learn through them
Until you can learn no more
When humanity decides
He has had enough
She has had enough
Of perpetuating shame
And greed
And separation
You will learn your lessons differently
War is an act of greed
Greed is an act of fear
Greed is an act of fear
The choice of fear
Is to claim more fear
Much of what you describe
Much of what you describe as born in fear
Is born in fear
That does not absolve it
That does not absolve it of its responsibility
Of its responsibility
You make choices in fear
In fear
And are accountable to your choice
The collective is as well
The collective is as well
Now if you are here to learn
You are now here to learn
That you are participatory
In the collective
Stop thinking so small
Stop thinking so small
Your alignment
Your alignment
The divine as you
Has come to be realized
Claims the divine
And everyone else in everyone else
By nature of your being
By nature of your being
When the collective lifts
And a new agreement
To what humanity is
To what humanity is
And how it can be known
These things you describe
Will cease to exist
Will cease to exist
In the ways that they have
Because they are creations
Of fear
They are reminding you
That there can be no god
That there can be no god
When in fact what they are
When in fact what they are
Emblemizations outpicturing
Outpicturing of fear based choice
Of fear based choice and agreement
And agreement by and through the collective
By and through the collective period
Period
Wow
That is crazy to be around
Man I don't know
What people around you do
But that is the strangest
It's a strange feeling
You create a warp
My friend talks about this
How some people can warp the room
I've seen really great comics to it
Where the room, the energy field
The room bends or something
It's the craziest feeling
Wow
Man that is so odd
I want to do an attunement
If you don't mind
What people are going to want to find you
But I want to point one little thing out
And it's mundane again
But when you mention this feeling
When you do your work and resonate with people
Somewhere else and essentially
Become them
And I've heard this described
I haven't seen it and I don't think I'm ready for it yet
But you know
The other place that I've heard that sense of
Oh it's a feeling, it's not from imitation
It's from feeling
Commedians who are really really good
At doing impersonations
And they will describe it as a feeling
Like there's a sense that they get
And then they do it
They do the impression
And so it's fascinating to me to hear you describe
The same thing except
You don't even know who it is
You're doing the impression
The thing is I would put money on the fact
That if those same comics were given the name
Of somebody and they did the same thing
With the name of somebody they didn't know
The level of accuracy that you might find
In their depiction
I was a playwright when I was younger
So that was becoming character was
Something that I could do
And when I
Started doing readings
I didn't know that I could do this until I did it
And there was some woman who mentioned her father's name
And my eyes were closed
And she gasped, I opened my eyes and said
Oh my god you started to look just like him
And then I found out that I could do it all the time
What I didn't know was I was always tuning in
Do you understand
I just didn't know that I was doing it
Because nobody had ever told me that it was possible
So
In some ways I was trained for what I do
Because I used to induce
Before I wrote creatively
I was inducing trance
I put on one piece of music for hours
Until I just would hear
Character, do you understand?
And you know
I had the worst writer's block of anybody
I've ever known in my life
And now the books that are dictated through me take days
30 days is on average
30 days of sessions
That can be spread out over a month or two now
But the first book was two and a half weeks
Every day sitting in a chair
The second one was a month
And it was like a 500 page book
No editing
Yeah it's funny but
We're not as separate as we think
Do you understand this
And once you understand that
Your experience becomes more fluid
In your ability to feel what other people feel
And know what they think
I mean they film me once for a TV thing
With this mother in the room
And she gave me the name of her kid
And I tuned into the kid
And I didn't know anything about the mother or the kid
And they intercut me
With the film of the footage of the kid
And the kid had turned out to have cerebral palsy
And you saw me sort of
Claw up and rock in the chair
And hit myself in the head
And I went deaf on that thing
And I didn't know what the hell was going on
But I watched that about 20 times
Because I couldn't really believe it
Because normally when you say
Oh my god you look just like my girlfriend
I'm going good I'm glad
She said that to me yesterday
Good I'm glad
But the evidence I think is available to everybody
So your comic friends are probably
Doing it more than they know
Cool
This was beautiful
Thank you so much
I have so much to integrate and think about now
It's my pleasure
Can you give people
Can you tell people how to find you
Sure it's my website
Is paul at paulseleg.com
It's P-A-U-L-S-E-L-I-G
Got it
One question
Did you want to do the atuma did I use up time
No if you have the time I would love to do it
I'm happy to do it
I'm going to let the guides do it
I'm not going to do it
They're saying sit back if you wouldn't imagine this
And imagine this
That there is an aspect of you
Who knows who he is
Who is unafraid
Knows who she is
Knows who she is
There is an aspect of you
Seeking to announce herself
Seeking to announce herself in realisation
In realisation as who and what she is
As who and what she is
In an experiential way
Would you say these words after us please
I know who I am in truth
I know who I am in truth
I know what I am in truth
I know what I am in truth
I know how I serve in truth
I know how I serve in truth
I am free
I am free
I am free
Now ask yourself these questions
Are you willing to live
A place of being to a place of being
That is so good
Good
Are you willing to live
A place of being to a place of being
Where you may be fully expressed
And know the self anew
And know the self anew
If in fact you are willing
See a staircase before you
See a staircase before you
Only three steps are needed
Take the first step please
Take the first step and if you are willing
And if you are willing to release any ideas
You may be holding
Of what you are
That are operating
Limitation
Simply say yes
Then go to the next step
And acknowledge this
And acknowledge this
The life that you have lived thus far
Has been an opportunity
To learn and it will change
And it will change by your new agreement
By your new agreement to be who
And what you truly are
To be who and what you truly are
If you are willing to release the idea
That you are your past
That you are your past and what happened to you
And what happened to you
Simply say yes
Then go to the next step
Here lies the threshold
Here lies the threshold
And on the count of three
We are going to step over the threshold
We are going to invite you to step over the threshold
Into what we call the upper room
Into what we call the upper room
Which is a higher level of vibration
Of vibration and agreement
And by doing this
And by doing this
You are giving permission to be realized
To be realized in a new way
To be known as who you truly are
Beyond the small self structure
Beyond the small self structure
Or the codification of history
On the count of three
On the count of three
If you would step over the threshold
Step over the threshold
One, one, two, three
Step over the threshold
Step over and be received
Welcome to the upper room
Be known by us as you wish
Be known by us as you wish
And give permission to be reclaimed
To be reclaimed, re-articulated
Re-articulated
As we have always been
As who and what you have always been
In the higher octave
Or the upper room
Thank you each for your presence
Thank you each for your presence
You're saying goodnight
Wow
Thank you so much
What a joy, thank you
I'm really grateful it's always a blast to hang out with you
That's an honor, thank you
That was the amazing Paul Selig everybody
All the links you need to find Paul
Will be at DuncanTrestle.com
Along with the offer codes
For our wonderful
Sponsors
Our X-Bar
And Charlotte's Web
If you enjoy this podcast
Do me a favor and subscribe
Also give us a nice rating
On iTunes, check out
The Patreon
Over at
Patreon.com
DTFH
Now here's a little treat for you
My sweet darling dandelions
Of the northern lions of light
I was going through
An old box of
Beetles that I had involved
At the bottom of the box
A very rare
Fergus Blander's tape
Which
I bought at a flea market in North Carolina
In the 80s
And I just wanted to play one of the tracks
From that tape
You won't find this on the internet
You won't find this anywhere
Much of Fergus Blander's stuff has been
Either intentionally censored
From the internet or just hasn't made it
Up there due to that huge licensing problem
That he continues to have
With Darius
Tramel
But here it is
A track from
Fergus Blander's
Live at the, I don't know where
Because I can't really make it out
Because the tape itself is covered
With smashed beetle bits
See your mind
Slide into
The past
On a water slide
And you take a dip
In the waters
What you
Was dreaming
The raccoon
That you raised
The boy with the
The beret
Marchin' in
Sweeten
When you thought you was
Gay
And the finch
On the bench
That was judging
Your brothers for
Dreamin'
To Norton
Cocaine on the
Train
When Satan's
The breakman
Makes no sense
To complain
When you find out
The track
Is made
Of promises broken
So hold hands
If you can
With all man
Even though
We're all parakeets
Sucked in
To God's fan
With nothing
To stop our
Ascent
Except cleanin' to what
We've been dreamin'
I was taught that
His own circus clown
Hung himself in this
French court
And that makes much sense
To not use
IP block up
When you think of the breakman
You should use somebody who would've killed him
Great wardrobe
Next stop, JCPenney
Family get-togethers to fancy occasions
Wedding season 2
We do it all in style
Dresses, suiting, and plenty of color to play with
Get fixed up with brands like Liz Claiborne
Worthington, Stafford, and Jay Farrar
Oh, and thereabouts for kids
Super cute and extra affordable
Check out the latest in-store
And we're never short on options at JCP.com
All dressed up everywhere to go
JCPenney