Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 582: Ruby Setnik

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

Ruby Setnik, brilliant, hilarious comedian, joins the DTFH! Come see Duncan and Ruby do live stand-up! October 6 & 7 at Cobb's Comedy Club in San Francisco, CA. You can learn more about Ruby on her website, RubySetnik.com, or follow her on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube! Original music by Aaron Michael Goldberg. This episode is brought to you by: Prize Picks - Sign up at PrizePicks.com/Trussell and Prize Picks will match your first deposit up to $100! Squarespace - Use offer code: DUNCAN to save 10% on your first site. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/duncan and get on your way to being your best self.

Greetings to you, my loves. It is I, D. True Cell. And I am reporting into you from Tacoma, Washington, where I'm doing stand-up comedy with today's guest, Ruby Setnik. I met Ruby when I was at Helium in Portland. My friend Lance Bangs was running a comedy festival out there and showed up with Ruby. She did a guest spot. I thought she was super funny and she's been going on the road with me ever since. She is brilliant, hilarious and I'm really excited for y'all to meet her if you're not familiar with her. You can find her on Instagram at RubySetnik. All the links you need to find are going gonna be at DuncanTrustle.com. And if you really want to meet her, you should come see her. Do you live stand up with me in San Francisco at Cobb's Comedy Club on the 6th and 7th of October? One last thing before we dive into this episode, shari, shari, sorry for the abbreviated intro here.

I'm on the road and I just, I don't have time. I don't have my orchestra, I don't have my writers, I don't have my band, I don't have my agent, my manager, my publicist, Aaron makeup. You might be surprised to know that even though this is an audio-only podcast, anytime I record, I like to be in full makeup and with one of my favorite wigs on and I don't have any of that here on the road because my concierge unfortunately

got Zika virus and was not able to make it to Tacoma with my wardrobe and of course my makeup person as you're probably well aware disappeared in Alaska a few weeks ago. So it's been a little topsy turvy for me. I'll be honest with you, but I'm not going to unload on you. I'm not going to emotionally dump on you. It's hard. As a podcast, we just need certain things. So what I did, because I don't have makeup, is I just went out to the bay here and to coma, scooped up some mud and put it in a jar and just rubbed it all over my naked body.

And it feels like I'm in costume kind of, but it just doesn't, it's just not the same thing. You know, like, I just don't feel right if I'm not wearing blush when I'm recording. I hope you'll subscribe to our Patreon, it's patreon.com, forward slash DTFH. Subscribe, you can hang out with the DTFH family generally once a week. Sometimes every other week when I'm on the road we've got a group meditation. We have our incredible family gatherings. It is your true family. We've been calling you to us in your dreams. And now everybody sit back and get ready for a wonderful conversation with comedian Ruby Setnik. I'm glad to take and know you. You will. I'm glad to be alive.

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Yeah, I mean I Am proud of myself if I leave the room and go walk around the city Yes, you know like with stand-up comedy I am proud of myself if I leave the room and go walk around the city. Yes. You know, like with stand-up comedy, it seems like there's two types of comics. There's like us. And then there are these comics who like... I know, they go to a fucking museum and they like me to family. See their friends in town.

Yeah, it's like, people ask if I'm in a city where they live. want to go out to eat and I'm like are you out of your mind? Yeah, I don't want to see you I don't want to leave leave the wolf and it's like people's my dear friends I would choose never seeing you again overseeing you when I'm Tori Unfortunately, yeah, like in Austin if somebody invites me out to eat which really doesn't happen that much But if somebody does I'm to eat, which really doesn't happen that much. But if somebody does, I'm like, yeah, that would be great. I'm more excited, but he is something about it. It's just, what's wrong with it?

Is something wrong with us? I think yes. And also, I think that, Kay, you know how the green room that we have right now is super like, it's chaotic and there's a lot of stuff in there. Because it's not like a, what do you call it? Like a chain club. It's like someone's club.

And I love that. Yes. That's how my room is. You know what I mean? Yes. Like it's full of stuff and I actually don't know really what I'm getting at. but mostly just that when I go to a hotel and there's nothing in it,

except for just the bare necessities that I need to be a garbage person. That's like a warm hug. Like I don't have to think any thoughts. I'm not distracted by all that shit in my room. You know what I mean? Like it's like a blank slate. And my brain feels happy in that environment.

Just like stewing in it. I really like it. Oh my God, it's the best. My dream, and I think it could happen, is one day the world will feel like a hotel room to me. Is that enlightenment? I think so. Is that what it gives wherever you go?

You're like, this is perfect. It is exactly what I was looking for. It's just only what you need it. Like one tree per block and that's it. Like no extra bullshit. You know what I mean? Yes. Okay, what's your go to TV when you're on the road?

Well, right now, watch the... Have you seen the show Euphoria? I've heard about it. I haven't seen it. People in my age really like it. It's just about rich kids who are doing drugs and the camera shots are very... It's very like... You have ADHD. It's very good for that.

It's like everybody's fucking and angry and it's very intense, but it's common. Also, I really like the soundtrack. That's very important for that. And it's like everybody's fucking an angry and it's very intense, but it's calming also. I really like the soundtrack. That's very important to me. Yeah. But what's my like go to when I go to? I think I've seen you for it.

It's kind of like, is it sort of saturated or something? Like, I mean, the lighting's really cool in it. Yeah, I don't know what. They'd have like put cracking it or something. It's just like very fun to watch. They did a very good job. Right. My wife was watching it once and I did make it make me feel so old.

Like I was watching it. I'm not sure if I felt like old, like I don't get it or old like fuck, man. I wish that it must be so fun to be a kid these days. That looks like so fun. If you're rich in doing drugs, yeah. Oh God. That's like where you want to be.

The dream is to be born into a rich family and have a drug problem. Oh wow. All those rich kids, they could just afford their drugs. I couldn't just, if I wanted drugs, I had to like steal from my mom. You had to talk to a guy. He didn't want to talk to you. Yeah. Sometimes the guy is your mom. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And go through my mom's. I'm ashamed of it, man.

I would steal from my mom. Is that horrific? Did you ever do that? You ever steal from her? I had a, um, I'm sure he did steal. I don't know. I have gaps, but I have this weird, do you know those Eos containers?

It's Eos lip balm. No. It's like a, um, it's shaped like an egg. Yeah. And it's a lip balm, it was very popular in like 2013 or however. And I had the stepdad at the time. And he, oh my God, I don't know if I can say this. I wouldn't say his name.

Okay. There were many stepdad's, it could have been any of them. Any of them. He found out that I smoked weed when I was like a freshman in high school because I like left some in like a butt pocket and he was doing the laundry and he didn't make a big , he didn't even tell me that he knew, but he like worked out basically. He like was around people who had weed and so he would, he took one of my eos lip bombs and he emptied it out and he put weed and it for me

and left it out on my window sill. And that was our system. We never talked about it or how to conversation about it. He was trying to show you, like, look, if you're gonna stash your weed, you should put it in a lip bomb case. Maybe, yeah, I thought it was his weird way of connecting with me. Like that was the most fatherly kind of thing we had. And we had a fucking.

And we had a fucking. God damn it, man. It was nice. It's sweet, but it's sad. It's like, say hello. Yeah. Go for a walk. You don't need to like, like, put your,

your, your stepdaughter's weed in a lip balm case. And then like, leave it on, like, it's kind of sinister. Just like, what's the message? What's he saying? We can just have a conversation, bro. I think like that. You are you could have been like why? Why are you putting my weed and a lip balm here?

I think for him it was like a loving act. Well, I was the closest he was capable of at that time. I see. Kind of a better old man character. You read about it somewhere. Like a beauty guy. You want to connect with your step kid. Here's like kind of a better old man character. You read about it somewhere. Like, if you got it, you want to connect with your step kid. Here's what you do. Get a lip balm case, find their weed, put the weed,

and they'll know what it means. This is like an Easter thing. I think part, you found it a little bit funny, you know what I mean? Oh, I see. It was like a joke. It's like a dead joke. That's drugs inside. That's cool.

I mean, you know what? I think that is something that the kids these days are getting to enjoy more like when I was a kid, if your parents caught you with weed, they like they thought that you were on death's door like in their mind, you because they were conditioned by the war on drugs and say no to drugs and dare to keep kids off drugs. So finding weed was like the beginning of the end. That was the slippery slope. And so my parents were very like anti-drugs. So you see, but you stole weed from your mom? No, my mom did not. I stole money and turned it into weed, was what I did.

So I guess that is wretched that I was doing that. I mean, I, it's something I'm legitimately shamed of. I mean, I would just, I would turn the money in anything cigarettes acid weed, whatever, because I didn't have any money. How really did you start smoking cigarettes? I think I started probably when I was 16 or something. I hated it at first, dude.

I loved it right away. Right away? Right away. I was like, I had a dream about it the next night. Just see, I had a dream about doing it again. I was like, this is so fun. I can't wait to do this forever. Oh my God.

I remember being horrified. I had a taste just feeling like, what the fuck? Yeah, well, my mom had poisoned me with this story. She had like good intention. She was like, yeah, when I was a teenager, I smoked cigarettes one time and I threw up and I was dizzy all day and I never touched it again. And I was like, okay, this is my moment

to try cigarettes and I'll throw up and get dizzy and never touch it again. Yeah. I smoked cigarettes and for the first time felt peace. I can't go. I can't go. and get dizzy and never touch it again. You know, smoked cigarettes and for the first time felt peace. I can't die. My whole life, I've been waiting for this. That's why, so yeah, that, okay,

so that's definitely a parent lie. Like, there's no way she smoked a cigarette and got sick right away, right? Like, how? All I know is considered that it was a lie. I think so. Yeah, maybe if you have like an empty stomach, I've gotten sick off of cigarettes before.

Maybe it's a woman thing. Maybe. I, my dad had a story because he never wanted me to write a motorcycle. And so his motorcycle story was once, you know, my dad was friends with the sheriff and it's a dumbest story of her. None of it makes sense. He's like, the sheriff called my dad. There was a motorcycle accident on the highway, brought me out there

and I saw a man's brains all over the road. That sounds cool. That sounds cool and absolutely not. And like, how does that work? How does the sheriff is like, oh, got a dead motorcycle, a cyclist better call the trussels. Yeah. Hey, there's brains.

There's brains. You gotta get down here. There's brains everywhere. Bring your boy. I want him to see the splatter of brains all over the road. But when I was a kid, he told me it just, you have to tell your kids, if you're gonna horrify them and that's the kind of parenting you want to do,

I guess you have to get them when they're young enough to be hard. How are you when you hurt the brain story? Oh, I think I was like eight. Yeah. So it was early. Early. Yeah.

It freaked me the fuck out. Yeah. Yeah, my dad really had to think about motorcycles too. Anti-motor. Anti-motor cycle. Yeah. Absolutely not never. Pretty classic parenting. Yeah. I get it. I don't want

my kids zipping around on a motorcycle. That's it's you I feel like yeah. Parents he was like so scared about it. He said a weird thing to he was like because he speaks very like exaggerated and he was like I would rather you become a crack whore than ride a motorcycle. I had that in my life. Really? I said that to you. Oh my god. Like so he's just like, I would rather you.

Yeah. Get into prostitution. Yeah. And then also separately get into crack then ride a motor. And ride a motorcycle. Oh my god. You really?

You really crack whore? Yeah, crack whore. He said that to me. I'm like I'm nine I don't have a you be out there on the streets Then ride in a fucking motor because I wanted maybe you were like this is a kid But I wanted to I was like attracted to things that were that gave me because I have ADHD of a deficit That means you're like an adrenaline seeker So I was like soft people on motorcycle.'re like, I want to be on a motor cycle.

You're right. Yeah, that's a weird part of it. And a lot of people with it become comedians, they become paramedics. Yes. They get these jobs. Both equally is important. Yeah. Yeah, we do need paramedics.

We need, I'm just so, some comics do act. Like is like healing the world and really important and like the Messiah. I know. And you know, Aaron and I, my wife, we were talking about this, like in a weird way, it makes sense that Zelensky was a comedian. Did you know that?

The Zelensky president, he was a comedian. Yeah, I did know that. So it makes sense because comedians think they can do anything. I know. And he managed to do the thing that so many comedians fantasize about like, be the president of someplace.

Not just be the president, but potentially like be the person who has like a big part in World War three. You know, like as a comedian he is managed to get in. The audience dream in front of the UN giving a speech to the UN as a comedian's dream. You don't have to write jokes anymore. No. You just get up there and like get really solemn and see it's wild to see it as a comedian and he was a comedian I get it like I can see myself

Getting into that kind of mess. I could see myself like getting into a political position of power Just catch me at the wrong time like when the Adderall's kicking in and somebody's like You should you should run for office like you know what, maybe I will. Make some calls, get some donations. Next thing you know, you're like looking out of the fucking UN, you're like Vladimir Putin's mortal enemy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This episode of the DTFH has been supported by prize pigs.

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and in a way that Vladimir is not. You know what I mean? Like he's totally like his villain. Like he has dreams about it. And you know, he does. Did you know that Putin, I might get the band wrong, but I'm pretty sure he's like really into Coldplay. Do you know about this?

No, he's like really into Coldplay. Don't fact check me, because I don't know if it's Coldplay, but it's some shit like that. And he like flew them out to Russia to play like a private event for him. Wait, hold on. Put like Coldplay. I did it. I sang a song.

I really said all of us are soft. Yeah, Coldplay. So like Putin, theoretically. Yeah yeah, wakes up in the morning. He looks at the statistics hundreds of thousands of dead. And he's while he's listening to and it was all yellow. Yeah. That's so fucked up. Bro, it's all red, dude. That's all red in the tree. It's so, that is that aspect of politics is so creepy to me. Cause you know, you want them to be, I want Putin to wake up, do push-ups, meditate.

Like, have his hair electronically lower down on to his head. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want him to have like musical preference. No. Yeah. I don't want it. And but that's the absurdity of it all. It's like the it's just a guy who likes cold play. You could destroy the planet. Yeah. It's a guy who likes cold play who's every day is like an inch away from me. Like, you know what? You know what? Let's just launch the nukes. Yeah. It's a guy who likes Coldplay who's every day is like an inch away from me. Like, you know what, let's just launch the nukes. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, I wonder if he didn't like Coldplay

if how different the world would be, you know what I mean? Like, we might not be a war. No, we might, all right. We're like, we might be done. Oh, like if he was into slayer or something. Yeah. Yeah, if he was like into hardcore heavy metal or something. Cause yeah, it would be over if he was into sludge rocker. Yeah. Just really

pumping himself up. So that's the other bizarre thing is like there's some sense that either of them are always like one conversation away from there being peace again. Like it, like could could could play make a song just for Putin about peace and then maybe... And it was all mellow, calm down. Calm down, Putin. Hey, what's up?

I don't know the singer of Coldplay is, but that means he has Putin's number in his phone, probably like he could text him, okay, you know, it's chat from Coldplay. Maybe no more war, dude. Sounds like all. Things are reaching out, Chad. You know, okay.

And then it went in, it went all in. Yeah. Like, that's the, it drives me insane. Thinking, I try not to think about it. Just that the human component of the apocalypse is, is like, we don't have to do that. There's no reason to do this. Like, I see my kids fighting over a toy.

And that's, it's that same shit. Yeah. Times of million, but the essence is the same. It's like mine, that's mine. Ukraine is mine. No, it's same shit. Yeah times a million, but the essence is the same. It's like mine. That's mine Ukraine is mine. No, it's clearly mine And it just gets more and more sophisticated and then there's a Some weird history behind it and then there's blame on other well. No, it's their fault that I want Ukraine. It's the but It's just so unnerving that it's the most irrational thing ever.

Totally. Yeah. And we're all toddlers. All of our issues are so much more simple than we would like to believe, I think. Yeah, it's totally unsettling that it's people who have power over us. And then I get into it because I have a part of me is like, once AI had to take over because I think that that does eliminate

the like thing of like human error, but not really, but you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, maybe that's a solution. Well, yeah, that is, I think it's inevitable, right? It's so great now we send humans to kill each other, to take a land. And the reason we do that is because it's cheaper than robots. Like, if we, if we can, like, there's a, it costs every soldier, the military quantifies the value of each soldier the way they quantify like the value of tanks and plants. So every soldier has been given a

certain amount of food, a certain amount of training and that costs X amount of dollars. And so when you're sending people to war, you each every time someone dies there's like it goes into a budget. It's like okay. This is our deficit here We lost this and if you could build a computer robot right there was cheaper than a human to train Yeah, it would just be it would be really weird because it'd be robots I wonder if it was like some day you've been like because like word vans This and gets more and more advanced and eventually it's like it just all plays out in like a digital setting.

It's like Tetris or something. You know what I mean? It's like a Tetris competition. Yeah, Tetris competition. Yeah, except whoever, anytime anyone loses a certain amount of people have to get lethal injection. Yeah, but it's quick. It's quick.

It's quick. Yeah, and then there's an agreement. Okay, we're gonna do like instead of blowing up a landscape. Yeah, but it's quick. It's quick. It's quick. Yeah, and then there's an agreement. Okay, we're gonna do, like instead of blowing up the landscape, we're gonna play a series of games of Pac-Man. Yeah. You win 50 people, we'll be executed on my side. 50 of our ugliest people. Yes.

Yeah. And then when we run out of people, you get to take over that area. Which is crazy because it is as arbitrary as that, you get to take over that area. Which is crazy, because it is as arbitrary as that, you know what I mean? Yeah, it should be, maybe we should just put into a randomizer. That would be upsetting. You know, I think I saw a Star Trek episode

where that's how they did, well, no, there's a Star Trek episode where some robot calculates the war and instead of getting drafted, you just get called up to be executed. Yeah, maybe I saw that and I'm just repeating it. I don't know, I think it's like, there's so many ways that people try to shine a light

on how absolutely absurd it is to have a conversation that involves blowing people up. It's so dumb. It's so stupid because it doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work. You used to work. The idea was you weren't equally matched. You had more power and you just took land and imperialism. That was imperialism. You just, you were better trained. You had better weapons and then it was your right, therefore. It made a little more sense before we had airplanes.

And it was these, you know what I mean? Like it took forever just to get to land. I understand, you know what I mean? It was like a little, made a little more sense before we were had iPhones. I don't know. It just seems so extra weird now. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Did you ever see, so there are these letters between, I don't think it's Ginghis Khan. I think it's one of his kids in the Pope. You ever seen those letters? No. Because like the Mongols were like taking over Europe and so the Pope is trying to stop it. So he writes a letter to the sun to the sun. Yeah. And it's just something about

God and how you know you shouldn't go to war and it's bad and rather you be a crack or you should go to war. And rather you be a crack or they go to war exactly the words of the Pope. Yeah. Why does he say that? I don't understand. It's a weird Pope. But the response from him was, like, who is this God? Is it the same God that is letting me take over the world? You're God, because that God seems to like me. Right. He's keys.

And then like, it's a sinister ending where he says, so he commands the Pope. He's like, now you need to come here and like bow to me. He's telling the fucking Pope, like, fuck you. Come bow down. Fuck your God. I'm taking over the world, but he lost. So the Pope was right. Are we all being Mongols?

That's crazy. We have boy kings. I know. Just boy kings. I know. I can't believe that whole thing. If you ever heard of dark monarchy. No.

Dark monarchy, I found it on, I don't know where I found it. It's one of these like, it's hype. Okay, so there's like right wing. And then there's like ultra super right wing. And dark monarchy is the idea that democracy is not the way to run things. Why would you think that the majority was right about anything? That's not a way to find the truth. That doesn't make sense. If we did that, you know, I mean, think of how many times you've been around a group of people. And if they got to vote on what,

how to handle a situation, like it would get really bad fast. Right, like, totally, yeah. No, yeah, that's the group mind effect. Right, yeah. Like, hell's angels, like if, let's say we're hanging out with a bunch of hell's angels, it was you, me, a bunch of hell's angels. Yeah, like hell's angels like if let's say we're hanging out with a bunch of hell's angels It was you me a bunch of hell's angels. Yeah, and there was someone who was doing that shitty thing where they

Keep the speaker on on their phone in public You know, I'm talking about where they're watching YouTube videos on their phone and no headphones Yeah, and so we're gonna vote like what do we do like you know? This is annoying everybody What do you think is the right approach to dealing with this person? No headphones. Yeah. And so we're gonna vote. Like, what do we do? Like, you know, this is annoying everybody. What do you think is the right approach to dealing with this person? How does that vote go down with the hell of angels?

The pain, yeah. They're gonna, well, they're gonna kill him. Yeah. They're gonna be like, we have to, we have to like pummel him as the answer. And we would probably be like, no, we could probably just talk to them first. Right.

So then from that, the gamble I I guess, is that some total of the population, the majority of that population are like reasonable and have everyone's best interest at the cold, smart. They want the world to be better. They've read a book in this topsy year. They've read books. They're totally clear-headed. Yes.

Like, that is a crazy gamble. And when you have as many people living in a country as we have. Yes. And so, dark monarchy is basically saying, look, democracy is idiotic. Clearly, the way to run things is to have a king. And because that's how it was for the longest amount of time, there's been long periods of peace with kings instead of presidents. So we're going to topple the government of the United States.

Sure. Installing king. The king of the United States and just start over again as a monarchy. And if you don't like it, like if you don't want that to happen, we will help you relocate out of the United States. We're not going to arrest you or do any kind of anything bad, but we will give you a certain amount of time. Well, it makes it a dark, because that's just a monarchy, right? Because it involves overthrowing the United States government,

toppling democracy and- Some extra- St installing a fucking king. And how do you install the king? Like, who's the fucking king? Because you can't vote on the king. Who's the guy that installs the king? Exactly. That's the king of kings.

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You can't vote on the key. You can't vote on the key. He's the guy that installs the king. Exactly! Yeah. That's the king of kings. You can't vote on the key. You can't vote on the key.

He's the guy that installs the king. Exactly! That's the king of kings. You can't vote on the key. You can't vote on the key. You can't vote on the king. He's the guy that installs the king. Exactly. That's the king of kings. Jesus Christ. Or Lord and Savior. But yeah, I don't mean that. There is a philosophical argument against democracy.

I think it was Socrates, who was like, or Aristotle. you know one of the really good white guys one of the smart dudes Yeah, it was like I don't know if it's white, but I get I don't know, but The point is yeah Democracy should we overthrow it when as comedians we become world leaders. What do you think? Seems like the first thing you want to do Yeah, I as comedians, we become world leaders. What do you think? Seems like the first thing you want to do. Yeah, I don't, I think what we have going is in working out too well.

So I'd be open to other options. Installing a king is super intense. But I feel like probably the solution is going to be super intense if you're going to overthrow and change everything. You know what I mean? You could use an AI. Like I don't think an infographic is gonna do it.

I think probably we'll have, what do you mean? To find the king. Like, you know, you, and so, because you can't, like the problem with it is like, okay, fine, democracy sucks. We need a new leader. Yeah. Who's the leader?

But if AI is choosing the king, maybe we should choose AI. As the king. As the king. That is awesome. A robot king. A robot king. That is silicon, like,

blinky throne in some kind of cool, like fortress of steel. Yeah. I love it. It sounds evil. Sounds evil. It's gonna get evil. I mean, I look, if you have to pick between like a daughtering old man.

That's our choices potentially in this election. Yes. We have to pick between a feeble old man and a raging megalomaniacal, vengeful narcissist. Yeah. These will be our choices. Yeah. So that is not fun because like one is a vote for chaos, I guess. Like in one is a vote for potentially World War Three, because Biden seems to be like anytime the Democrats are in office, war start. But then when Trump was in office,

you just felt like you'd gone insane. Like you felt like you're speaking of step dads. It was like suddenly you had the worst fucking stepdad of all time. You had to see him every day. There was no escape. You was always on TV rambling and like talking about great he was.

It's like no different. It's like just give me some weed. Yeah, please. Like the, so I don't want to have that by, I don't want that binary. I don't have to make that choice between like, which do I want? Like roll the dice on a lunatic who,

but when he was president, there weren't any wars. Like he was like, or vote for the Lich. Yeah. I can't understand what he's fucking saying. I don't know what he's saying in any time. Because it's so sleepy. He's sleepy and they're like it's not fit. It's elder abuse. You should know. Elder abuse is so funny. It's clearly it is. It's elder abuse. Let him retire. For real. Why are you making? Why are you putting him in this, don't act like he wants to be there? Like, he's clearly out of it.

Like he's generally confused, he's mumbling. We've all been around old people. We know what it that's like. It's like, and we, there's, we all feel compassion for them. Yeah. So, yeah, robot fucking king should be on the ballot. Lord, ZARVEL, 7umpy, fleshed-ups,

who are not evolving, or devolving. Devolving, and you know, maybe he could have rotating head. Like a night, a night-revel for Christmas. So like one head could be a Biden, if you wanted Biden. Yeah. One head could be a Trump, if you wanted a Trump, and depending on who he's talking to, the head could spin.

So now he's Trump, and then he's Biden, and then he's Obama. So he becomes all the presidents. Right. And depending on the situation, that's the president's face that comes up on a screen. Didn't the president that's needed most? Yes!

Yeah. He simulates presidents. So no one can be mad, because that's needed most. Yes. Yeah. He simulates president. Yeah. So no one can be mad because it's every president. Oh my god. We figured it out. It's Lincoln.

It's Washington. Lincoln. You never know you're going to get in the state of the union. Like, it's Lincoln when we need more logs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Finally, it's Lincoln when we need, I don't know. I don't know when we need a Lincoln. Yeah Kennedy

We need a good speech about the space program. Oh my god. It's brilliant. We're gonna do it We got no and we're gonna do it That's why we're doing this podcast gang. We want to make an announcement Ruby and I are in the process of creating a pretty amazing robot president, but we can't do it without your help. I don't want to say too much about it, but it's going to be really big. It's going to be the next big thing.

Real big gang. And there's a GoFundMe. If you go to GoFund find me look up robot president. Yeah. Uh, if you donate over $500, $500, $500, $500,000 you will be whatever you did if done in the past will be completely forgiven. Yeah. So you donate $500,000. Now you could do whatever you want. You do whatever you want. Kill free. Don't get arrested though, because the robot president isn't there yet, but once he's there, you will be pardoned.

Yeah. $500 is gonna get you a figurine of the robot president that is gonna be incredible. That's a great option. I have to ask you, I'm curious, you, like your mom was embedded with like some pretty hardcore hippies, right? Like how did you end up hanging out with wavy gravy? How did you end up, how did you end up like being around one of the most famous of the

60s outlaws. My mom was not heavily embedded really at all. What happened was as I grew up in a very small town where there was nothing to do really, except for through these weird people who did silks. Areal silks have you ever heard of that? Yep. And they like taught it to kids.

And my mom was like, well, you can go do that. Ariel silks. Yeah. To be clear, that's the people who wind themselves up in those things. Yes. That looks so fun. So there's videos of me on the internet

if you look deep enough of me doing that as a child. Are you silks? Are they dangerous? Um, well, it's all like regulated and there's an adult watching ideally. I mean, yeah, there keep kids like would break bones sometimes. It was fucking you. But no more than like sports or like soccer, you know what I mean?

I'm so can you just refresh my memory on how how like if I go into an aerial silk room? Is it in a room? What am I looking at? You're looking at like it's literally like what you would imagine if you imagined like a rope of, but it's a silk, like one string of, but it's like thick silk hanging down from like metal thing, fixture in the ceiling. Okay. And then it's like people climbing it and wrapping themselves in it in particular ways that result like pretty shapes, or if you're me and you want to do like the adrenaline thing, you like wrap yourself up and then you like let go

of something and you do like this fall and it's been downward. Wait, there was a singer, what's her name? She did that. I don't know, I remember like. York maybe? It wasn't York, it was, it was, God, I can't remember.

But yeah, there was like, she did this whole aerial silk thing, went so high. Is that sea up? It might have been sea up. Yeah. And she went really far up and it was scary to watch. And it seemed like a mistake almost. Like, it just seemed dangerous.

Yes. So you did. I did that as a child as like a 10 year old. Because there was an after school program for the little kids. And like, that was one of the options. The other one was like MacRame and I was like I want to do the one where I'm falling. So your mom. So your mom took you to this. Yes. And how did she find out about it? I don't know. It's in it was in Fort Bragg where I grew up. I think it was like at the rec center at the Medesino rec center. And I was really into silks and I found it really fun.

And my mom was like, are there any extensions of this? Like, is there anything else? Any other place she can go to do it? Because she really likes it. And they suggested Camp on a Rainbow, which is a circus and performing arts camp in Medesino County in Lentenville in those like woods. And that's called camp when a rainbow. And that's Wavy Gravy's camp. So he made that camp, I think like it was kind of like, I don't really know the full

backstory. And I don't want to like butcher it. But it was basically like he created the camp because he, it started off as like a daycare when like all these hippies were like going on the road or going to a festival or like they needed child care for their kids that would show up. So that's kind of like it's like origin as I understand it. And now it's like a full fledged camp but it has credentials and it's not that anymore. Right. Um, so he was the founder of Camp Winner Rainbow, Wavy Gravy.

Founder of Camp Winner Rainbow, yes. And wasn't Wavy Gravy the one who ran the pig farm? Yes, the hog farm. The hog farm. That's where Camp Winner Rainbow is. Camp Winner Rainbow is on the hog farm and it's a hog farm still called the hog farm. It's called the hog farm and it's like hogs. Yeah.

Wow. Because it's because there are hog farm. There's like hogs. Yeah. Wow. Because there are hogs like on the farm. Okay. Yeah. You know, that's good to know. I should have known that. I always just thought, why did they call that? I just was like, oh, that's some kind of like deep, hardcore, hippie thing.

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first month. That's better help. H-E-L-P.com slash Duncan. Thank you better So did your mom know about like wavy gravy or know about like the hog farm? No, she had no context for what we were getting. Did you know? No, no. I was like, I'm going to for what we were getting. Did you know? No, no ideas. I was like, I'm going to camp for the first time. Yeah. You didn't know you're going to this legendary, like in the history of hippies and psychedelics,

the hog farm. I know, I do. It gets brought up all the time. I was nervous, I was gonna piss the bed. That was my biggest thing on my mind. I had no idea. How do, what does the hog farm look like? Because in my mind, just from the name,

I'm so dumb. Like, I've just always pictured it is, like, just this series of, like, muddy fields with RVs in them, because it just mud everywhere. No, it's like dirt, not wet, just regular dirt, not mud at all. Really? I mean, it's like fields and what's the hog farm? It's like you drive through Laytonville,

which is this fucked up little town. And then you like take a left and it's this like winding road and there are fields and there's probably mud, but there's also a river and there's trees and hills and it's beautiful. And then you go down the road and you go like you dip into this valley and it looks like you're just going into the forest and then there's a whole camp. Okay. Yeah. And so at what point did you like start realizing like you were in

probably what I'm imagining like a different kind of summer camp than what you thought you were in probably what I'm imagining, like a different kind of summer camp than what you thought you were going to be at. Well, at my first year, I don't think I understood. I was like nine years old. It was like free, pre-consciousness for me a little bit. But my second year, my mom got a job there so that I could go for free. And I was there all summer. And so I like slowly kind of understood the lore,

you know what I mean? Cause it's all like really crazy and like above, I don't know. So yeah, so I slowly understood, what wavey gravy is at the camp when you go there? When I went there as a kid. And still now he's like getting out cause he's older. But what did he dress up?

What do you go into clown? Yeah, he has like his clown outfit on. He like does this whole thing where he like, what is it? He like dresses up as a lot of different characters. That's his whole thing, right? It's like the MC and he's like the chaotic and see and has a lot of, but one of them's a clown. But he does morning reading to all the kids and he like reads

Nauruda to everyone for 30 minutes, have a breakfast. What? He's like ingrained to the system of the camp. So you're a kid and you're, you are some of a kid with wavy gravy, is reading the root of. Yeah, but you're a kid, so you're like this old guy,

this old fucking weird guy is just raiding me in the factory that I don't understand. But it's cool and it's magic. You can feel it, you know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't really, I don't even know when I, because I ended up going there for my whole childhood. And I moved around a lot. It was the only place I returned to.

So I can't pinpoint when I understood what it was. But eventually I just, I was like, yeah, this is the way the Gravy's camp I needed this and the 80s and blah, blah, blah. Did you book out my counselor? Yeah, I became, it's actually kind of how I got my starting comedy, because I mean, they have it. It's a performing arts camp.

The first thing they have you do is a kid is Like on the first day of camp you go up on to the stage and you have to introduce yourself to the whole camp Whoa, and you like say your name and it's this powerful thing and it's hard for some kids for me. I loved it Yeah, and I Did improv there because they have an improv class so I did that all growing up and eventually it became a counselor and I became a routine staff and then I became the improv teacher. Wow.

That's what I did. And then that was until I was 21 and then I started doing comedy too much to go back with you. Wow. That is a whole thing. And I am seed with wavy gravy and it was totally crazy and you didn't really understand most of the things that I did, but it was really cool. Wow.

Yeah. That's an amazing origin boy. I was at some, I went to camp, Pinnacle. Yeah. Probably nowhere near as cool as there was no Neruda that I'm aware of. Like, it was a boys camp and it was more like a Piscopalian. And so I think we were getting like,

Rudyard Kipling and stuff for Ed to us. But still, yeah, I mean, that isn't where I, that's not my origin point for being a comic necessarily, but for sure. I mean, I would tell ghost stories to the camp and stuff and I, you know, that's why I really realized I'm like, I love performing. It's, camp and stuff. And that's why I really realized I'm a child of love for a small. It's a camp is like a small enclosed community of people.

So you really, I think get to know who you are in that context, which is like a microcosm for what comedy can be, you know what I mean? For what fame can feel like, in the sense of like, everybody knows you, you know, like, oh, you can entertain in this setting, you know, you can stand out in this setting. It might be the first time as a kid you've been given a platform

to do that. It'd be really cool if you're not, you know, getting molested or whatever other stuff happens at summer camps. I know. So terrifying. Are you got to be brave to send your kid to summer camp? Yeah.

Do you go work there? Are you going to make my mom did? What was your mom's job there? She was a maintenance woman. Okay. Actually, I totally glossed over it before I was the I was a totally pissed off and uncareismatic teenager and they put I worked in the kitchen so that I could be there all summer. And I did that for like two or three years before I before I finally I was like, I want to be the improv teacher and I climb my way up to that. Yeah, I worked in the kitchen and my mom was the maintenance woman. The kitchen staff at a summer camp, they're always the outsiders.

Like they're not. Yeah, they're on a different schedule. You're on a normal schedule. Yeah. Yeah. You're outside the rules of the camp kind of. You're there, but you're not generally they smoke. Yeah, they're like smoking.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you, okay, do you remember any songs from the camp? Did I have it its own songs? Well, I don't know the nail just know how they go how they let's I'll do one. I'll start Pinnacle boys are the boys you want to know Pinnacle boys are the boys you really go

Raise your voice and shout it to the sky. We'll love Pentecostal till the day we die. Wow, that was a dad. Yeah, I never, until now that I'm a dad, I was singing to myself. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, you're going to bring up death in the camp song? We had one like that where it used to be like a Jesus song, but we like change the word.

How does it go away? Let me think of it. It's like, well, the part that I'm remembering, it's like Coleman, it's a lullaby and it culminates in this part where it's like, I love you, but way the loves you the best. I mean, just like they would put in way

of you instead of Jesus. Oh my God. That's kind of in pen. Then the other one is, um, that's a cult. Totally, yeah. And yes. So was they, there's a cult aspect to this game.

Oh, it's very cultish. Not in like an insidious way, but it is like, because there's like sayings and like the phrasing of everything is very particular. I hear you, but Wavy hears your thoughts. Yeah.

I dream of you, but we're all in wavy's dreams. Whoa. Okay. That was like poking fun because there's a Jesus song. So there's the funniness of it. I can make it better. Yeah. I wonder if you know this one, which is like,

May the long time light shine upon you. Do you know that one? I think I heard it in a yoga class once. Like all lights around you and the pure light within you. Guide your way on. He would sing that and that's about grief, I think. That's cool. That's definitely like, you know, it was a spiritual camp.

Yeah. Mystical spiritual. But then we also sing because the camp gets together, you know, it was a spiritual camp, the mystical spiritual camp. But then we also sing, because the camp gets together, like before breakfast and also before dinner and like sing songs, and those, that's like the song leaders.

And like we're saying at one point, Shina is a punk rocker. We even think like Ramon songs. It's like how we discovered a lot of the music that I know. Like the flaming lips and shit. That's cool. Yeah, or like whatever the guys were who wanted to- Your camp was cooler than mine.

We didn't even know that. We sang classic Christian songs. Noah, he came and built him an arki-arki, you know. It's like a song about God wiping out the planet. It's like, it's really like, cheery somehow. Like about an apocalyptic event planet. It's like, it's really like teary somehow. Like about an apocalyptic event written about in every like mythology.

We did that, we did. Let me think of another song from the camp. So many songs. Lots of just basic Christian camp songs, as I recall, classics, you know, cover my face in the blood of Jesus, cover my face in blood, take a bath in the blood of Jesus, I drink Jesus blood. Did you just come up with that?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's it. I was like, wow, Duncan. I didn't know that. Cover ourselves in the blood of wavy, we treat wavy's blood. So did you, but it doesn't, I mean, it doesn't sound like a real cult. Did it feel a little like?

No, it's totally wholesome, I think, genuinely. I mean, totally, I think made me, because there's that thing, and I don't know if it's real psychology, but there's this school of thought that like children need one character or place in there It's person in their life that is like consistent in order to come out normal Like they can have a crazy fucked up chaotic childhood But if they just have one kind of pillar then they can turn out okay, and I think that camp was definitely that because there's the only place It was returning to you know, you know, you Wavy Gravy was pals with Ramdas and yeah, they knew each other and I know these really philanthropic, like I know he does a lot of great, he did a lot of good stuff

in the world. Yes, and those attitudes trickled down in the staff were fans of his, but not like, you know what I mean, they were also artists and they were young people and he and his like total, his magic, like permeates kind of throughout the culture of the camp. You still talk to your friends from there? From camp? Yeah, I do. I have phone calls with them.

They get updates on the camp trial line, all that. They must be pretty excited that you are like doing stand-ups. Yeah. One of them spread this, not a room, it was like a positive rumor, but they like one session told everybody that I was famous now and that I was getting famous and these two kids that I taught improv to

and I was also their counselor, they emailed me. And they were like, hey, we heard your famous when you get on TV, like all this stuff. I was like, I'm sorry. That's so cool. I mean, you that one, I was like, I'm sorry. That's so cool. I mean, you do, you, so wait, what happened? You, your Instagram or you had like some social media blow up? Like, yes, I am.

Well, I worked for a comedian for a long time who I was one of the initial people that got on, because like Facebook was offering comedians, but, or not just comedians, but like anyone who's making reels, primarily comedians, a lot of money to do that. So he was doing that and then totally blew up, but right before that, he hired me to be his personal assistant. So I saw him do that and I saw it

like his whole system and the mailing list thing and all of that. And that was right after. So prior to that, I went back to community college because during COVID, I had only been doing standup for like two years and I was in amateur. And so I had nothing to do.

So I was like, okay, I'll go to college because initially I dropped out of college or I didn't decided not to go so that I could do standup right out of high school. And I totally lost my train of thought. That's pretty young to start doing stand up. I was 18. I think it changed the way that I think about stand.

Like it was, it's very easy when you're 18 and when you discover anything in your 18, it can really easily become the most important thing in your world. And stand up is so intense that it was consuming for me. And I think my brain wasn't fully developed yet. So it is very much a part of me, I think, because of that, you know.

You're in good company. I think Bill Hicks started real young. Dave Chappelle started real young. You have like a, and that gives you like a real leg up because it takes a long time to get good at it. And you're already good at it. And now it all makes sense because you've been doing it since high school. And since you're 18. And before that, you were sort of doing it at the summer camp. You had some training or something.

And now, wow, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I don't,, I don't, like I was asking, Ram Das, the cheesiest question once, how to be a good dad. And he said, soul, not role. He said, and this is when he had his strokes,

we would, he said, abbreviate everything, yeah, to talk really slow, you know, like, when he was a soul, not a role. You would say, he said, dad, role, son, role. So he's pointing out like, don't get caught up too much. I mean, be a dad, but don't,

don't lose sight of your kid's soul. Don't, it's not yours, it is your son, but it's like you have to, like some parents, they only see that. Right. They don't see the light, they don't see what the, what they're going towards. Yeah, exactly.

And so then you get them, your kid trapped, and you can be very manipulative about that. And pretend you're not doing it, you are. Yeah. So, yeah, with the oldest, I mean, of course, because I used to say that when I was a kid about my dad, but he's like, I want to be a stand-up comedian. And I think I would love it.

If he started, if he was in high school, he actually started doing it. My Aaron, I don't think so much, and I understand why, because it's like, I mean, it's not exactly the most stable lifestyle. I think it's best for people who are not, can't, I feel kind of unemployable in every other realm. I mean, just kind of useless when I have to sit down to do any, you know what I mean? So that's why stand up, make sense. And it's like a point of joy for me where I think for other people,

it could be a real step down from what they could potentially be. You know, yeah. Hell, like, hell life. And some people get stuck in it. They never wanted to do it. And then they're like living this life. They didn't really want it. And then they're miserable.

And they get really depressed. You do have to really have a very certain way of dealing with chaos, you know, because you don't care. It's so scary, it's such a weird, wonderful job. So that is your mom excited about all this? She is, she is excited. I think she likes that I'm still in college and that I'm continuing to do that. And that's important to her,

but she is totally supportive that I'm doing. What are you studying in college? Okay, so the college that I transferred to from community college is a, it's like a liberal arts college is kind of like choose your own adventure type of thing where the senior thesis project that you that your time

there culminates in is you basically like draft an argument that that project is your major. So whatever you the project is that you choose, you're like, okay, this is what I majored in. And then you argue for that like in front of a committee of adults in your peers and that's your major that you graduated college and and they had different stuff set up for that. like in front of a committee of adults and your peers, and then that's your major that you graduated college and they had different stuff set up for that. And when I initially went, it was all again off the back of COVID and I didn't feel, I wasn't going there at least not consciously to like be a stand-up comedian and do a comedy project in me.

I thought that I was gonna do like his history major stuff. Okay, yep. And then like the real me I think kind of slowly permeated and the senior thesis project that I'm doing is a 30 minute stand-up special. Whoa! Wow, that's gonna be cool. That's super cool.

You're ready for that. That's amazing. Yeah, so that'll be nine months from now. So when you're on the road with me, do you get credits for it? Is it like, should we get considered credits? You're my special project actually. Yeah.

All right. That's a filial professor. So, well, yeah, that's a funny thing comedians do when we do that. Yeah, I did psychology. I thought it was going to be a psychologist. But a lot of us do history. Yeah. The ones who got a call philosophy gonna be a psychologist. Yeah. But a lot of us do history and ones who got a call.

Philosophy. Philosophy, lit. Yes. Some acting, I guess, but. I think I just wanted to be near New York, but I wasn't, didn't feel like I could be like, yeah, I'm gonna go to New York and try a stand of comedy because that's so dangerous and vulnerable, you know what I mean?

Yeah. So I did like this work around, and then yeah, and I, and from college, I couldn't do stand up Because really because there's an amherst Massachusetts. I mean I was going out to open for my boss at the time But I couldn't really practice or fail in that environment So I ended up posting clips as an independent study that I designed that was like yeah, I'm gonna post clips I'm gonna do this and do this experiment and design this whole independent study based off of what

I had been doing for my boss successfully. And then, and then yeah, blew up and that's how Lance saw me and a bunch of other stuff got started. And that's how I met you. Because Lance brought you to his show in Portland. And like, God, you're so funny. Yeah, that's so cool.

And Lance didn't know. He thought he was like, he got to do that thing and stuff. Yeah, Ruby, like when you've done other festivals, and I was like, yeah, Lance, I've done lots of other festivals. And now, like my first time doing that thing. Whoa. Well Lance is a kid. Like, there's people out there, these like, we're talking about Lance Bings, for those of

you who are familiar with Jackass or all the other awesome things he's done. A lot of music videos, a lot of stuff, comedy social, but he's like, he not only makes cool stuff, but he like makes connections and plugs people in. There's some people who are so good at that. He's very much in charge of doing people, yeah. Yeah, he's awesome. So, I love that.

It's so chaotic. Like, I love it. You're saying with me, I mean, a lot of comments like when you sort of like look, when you try to connect the dots, yeah, at how you ended up on stage and you look, it's very weird. And Lance, the reason that he, because I did come up on his social media and that's why he was inspired to bring me out to Portland. But I guess he, and I didn't know this, He saw me when I was doing like some fucked up open mic in Sacramento. Like he saw me didn't say hi,

but I guess he had made like, thank God. I went to that fucked up open mic in Sacramento. But it does, yeah, I think it goes to like, it's like small things, forking pad. Like who know? Who the fuck knows? Like what is gonna be, you know what I mean? I know.

Cause a lot of it is purposeful and you have to have the, you know what I mean? But yeah, a lot of it's just like weird, randomized. Just synchronicity. Yeah. When I look at it, like the best things in my life never came from a point of purpose. Yeah, I mean, never.

There was never like, oh, I'm gonna go from point A to point B to point C. It's always just something. Yeah emerges from the universe. Yeah. That leads sort of there's these little stepping stones that lead you. Yeah. But really if you think too much about like the some linear path you miss every you. And for me, I'll get anxious because I don't want to blame myself when things go wrong. So it's much easier to like step slowly towards the thing that I think that I want than to like step right towards it and write at it. You know what I mean? And I do find that yeah, if you keep things like open and breathing, then there's room

for things you didn't expect and things that you didn't know that you want. And that you probably want more than the things that you think that you want. Right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Because you can't, if you get too caught up in what you want or, and then you miss, it's just so many versions of this. Like, you know, if you get too caught up in what, I don't know, like spiritual teachers,

like go into these Ramdas retreats, you know, in my mind, they look, they're supposed to look some way. Yeah. But you'll be around like people who are like llamas, like people who have, like been in monasteries and sat with the Dalai Lama and they're wearing a Hawaiian shirt. You know what I mean? So you forget. Yeah. And I think a lot of it's so many other versions of that where you because you're looking for some specific

Something that that matches what's in your head in the external world the thing you're looking for could be Right next to you You could be like go sitting next to them at the office or on the airplane or and you'll never see them Totally because they don't match what's in your head What they should look like. And you're the least qualified person to know what you want, because you have all of these very superficial, you know what I mean?

Like I want to say in my hotel room all day, and you know what I mean? And good thing I didn't, right? And I think it's just like stuff like that throughout your whole life, you know what I mean? Right. Yeah. But I don't, I think it's,

anytime I let myself go into that place completely, it feels a little insecure. There's some insecurity in not knowing, you know, you're just, Yes. Like, have you ever, I've been doing this lately, not, not doing the Google search

or not answering a question that I have. So like a question will pop up in my head. Like, what is that, or what's the name of that? How does that work? You don't look into it. But instead just feel the feeling of wanting an answer. You ever do that? Like the feeling of wanting an answer?

It's a weird feeling. It's a good feeling. Yeah, it's an itchy feeling. Yeah. And you want to stop it. Yeah. Like it's an itch that gets scratched by getting the data set that matches the question. The question, the boring truth. Yeah. And learning the boring truth and then it's an itch that gets scratched by getting the data set that matches the question, the

boring truth. Yeah. Learning the boring truth and then it's like, okay, I'm better now. It's almost like a thirst or something. And if you let yourself not, stop answering all the questions. Give your mind blue balls. Yeah. Give your mind blue balls.

Exactly. That's Naruto, right? Isn't that one of his famous poems? Yeah. Yeah, the way you would read it. Yeah, give your mind blue balls. Give your mind blue balls. Neruda. Welcome to camp for. It's a good finder rainbow.

Winnery, you win it. Yeah. Welcome to camp winner rainbow. The way you gravey the Lord of this camp and reads Neruda for start of my favorite gift. It's no nuts September. So you know, I got to read Pablo. No nuts September reading Neruda. You know, of course to read Pablo. No nuts of timber reading a root. You know, of course we're going to re give you mine blue balls to start out.

But yeah, but that state of not knowing it's a very fertile place. You know, it's like a lot of stuff springs out of that place. So if you answer your question too soon, and you don't get to enjoy that, I don't know. And the other questions that come along with it before, you know, it's the same with boredom, which we totally don't allow ourselves to do anymore and have. It's like that is the beginning of a great day

if you can just sit with it, you know what I mean? But you don't, because your dopamine toy is right in front of you, whatever it is. You know what I mean? Shut it off. I mean, it's like we're at war with that feeling everywhere. Like no one wants to be in a play. You're considered an idiot if you don't know an answer.

You're supposed to have the answers, you're supposed to know. And if you don't know, you're supposed to get the answer as quickly as you fucking can. You're not just supposed to know, and if you don't know, you're supposed to get the answer as quickly as you fucking can. You're not just supposed to sit there in the unknowing like some dope. You're supposed to just constantly be, but yeah. And then what? Like, one of my friends was telling me that he would go on the road, he's a musician, he would go on the road, and somebody would ask a question or wonder something, and then

somebody would look it up on their phone. And somebody would ask a question or wonder something, and then somebody would look it up on their phone. And so he imposed a rule. No one can answer questions anymore on Google. You guys just sit and fucking wonder. No, I think they had like a fruit or something, and whoever was going to be the person who would normally look in their phone would have to pick up the fruit and make up an answer.

Like, you know, just say, all right, use the answer from my own head. And no one could even look. And because what's the difference? You know, what's the difference really? Yeah, really? I mean, if you're not doing surgery or something. Right.

I mean, maybe later on, you'll go on a podcast and say that Vladimir Putin listened to Coldplay, which he didn't, because you made up that answer at some point. You know what I mean? And you've spread misinformation. I almost looked. I mean, that's the thing. You want to look, okay?

I really wanted to. Did he really? I want to verify. I want to fact check you. Is it the truth? And then the moment you do that, you go into your device and you stop the conversation. And we couldn't have talked about

of Vladimir Poon listening to Coldplay for 10 minutes. If we found out that wasn't, we probably just would have moved on. We've done it. We wouldn't have gotten to our idea. Robot King. And it's not an idea, it's a plan. A plan, thank you.

Sorry, keep saying that. And I do want to remind everybody, there is a Kickstarter for this. You could go just robot King on Kickstarter, $500,000. You could do whatever you want. 500 figurine, 50, will blow on your face softly for 30 to an hour. 50?

What? Yeah, soft blow on your face. I'm not doing that. We said we would do that. I'm not blowing on anybody's face. I don't want to blow on anyone's face. No one's gonna pay for that. For me to blow on their face. I'm not doing that. We said we would do that. I'm not blowing on anybody's face. I don't want to blow on anyone's face. No trust me, no one is going to pay for that. For me to blow on their face, that's not.

People will pay for it. I don't think so. You were super excited about it when we first talked. Yeah, but then I thought. I'm going to blow on their face. I was joking. No, you weren't. I was joking.

I'm not going to blow on you. Sound like when you're joking. If we're going to do a face blowing tear, let's make it a little more expensive. I don't have time to like, like where do I so I have to fly to all over the country to blow on people? Yeah, like we'll figure it out as it comes.

We don't have to make a plan. Well, friends, the tier, don't worry about the blow on your face tier. We'll work that, but- We'll work it later. 500, was it 500 gets the figurine? Yeah. 500,000, it's the purge for you basically.

Like you can fucking go wild. You can do anything you want. Like you can fucking go wild. You can do anything you want. Set shit on fire. People on fire. Except what, look, I wouldn't, I don't want you to, but once Robot King. So I want you to.

Ruby wants you to set people on fire. I don't, but look, once Robot King is installed. Yeah. Literally installed, I guess we'll have to install the King on download downloaded or whatever. Oh yeah, like on the PC. But here's what's great about robot King. It will be on everyone's phone.

Like can you, like imagine right now you want to talk to the president? No. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. King is not going to be clear. Yeah. Yeah. Robot King in your phone anytime you want.

You want to talk politics. You want to yell it. It's your to yell it. Your angry at it, you can just talk, you can yell at the president itself instead of your family who you love. Which I wouldn't recommend, because we aren't programming robot king

to be compassionate necessarily. So I wouldn't advise critiquing the robot king. Our prototype model is actually really vengeful. It's super straight away to violence. It's kind of, it's like number one go to. Yeah. Number one go to, like yeah, I was asking it because I just was testing it.

And I guess I defended it. I didn't even know it's passive aggressive, but I asked it just to test the AI. You know, what's a great coffee, like what's good to put in coffee? And it gave me these weird components but in the coffee, then I looked it up and that was, it was poison, it was trying to poison me

so, but if you want to yell the president king, you can you can you can at your own risk robot president king robot president king boy king Ruby. Yeah, thank you for doing the show. Oh, thanks for having me. Thank you for coming on the road with me. You are so funny. It's been so fun. Can you tell people where to find you? Oh yeah, you can find me on my Instagram at Ruby case at Nick. Great. All the links you need to find Ruby will be at donkertrustle.com. Come see us. We're going to be at Cobb's Week and after next. Oh yeah. So come see Ruby. She's so funny. Come see me, I love you guys. Thank you for doing the show, Ruby. So Tehata, we build quality vehicles with you in mind. Lagikanami Nei Sip, Benandika Meyab says say, oh, huh?

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