Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 587: Johnny Pemberton

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

Johnny Pemberton, comedian and star of the upcoming film Mermaid, re-joins the DTFH! Keep an eye out for Johnny's new movie, Mermaid, directed by Tyler Cornack and probably coming out early next year! Original music by Aaron Michael Goldberg. This episode is brought to you by: Squarespace - Use offer code: DUNCAN to save 10% on your first site. Lumi Labs - Visit MicroDose.com and use code DUNCAN at checkout for 30% Off and FREE Shipping on your first order!  AG1 - Visit DrinkAG1.com/Duncan for a FREE 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase!

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It's the dumping trust. Johnny Pemberton, welcome back to the DTFH. Yeah. Yeah. Talking to C.I. Yeah. Talking to C.I. Tell everybody what what you can you talk about what you've been doing? I can talk about it. I'll just finish to make in a movie a feature length film down in a we're in Florida and

St. Petersburg Florida shooting a movie by who? By will the director Tyler Cornack who directed and wrote Butt Boy. Your favorite movie, yeah. My favorite movie, too. You know, Johnny, you are one of the only people who consistently gives me movie recommendations that are actually good movies. Any movie now that you tell me, I should watch it that night. Okay.

Because you're always dead on like you have your finger on the pulse of good movies and but boy was one of my favorite movie experiences. I mean this since there will be blood. I still remember the big. That's a bringing you to me. I mean it. When I saw there will be blood. I remember that ex the ecstasy that you start when you realized, oh my God, I'm about to watch

a fucking seriously good movie. But boy, same thing. And even more so in the sense that the name, the name is, you know, you don't expect. Yeah, you don't expect it at all. You expect it to be something. Well, I don't even know. I didn't know when I watched it, what to expect,

but it's definitely like, you get lost. I'll be getting lost in the story of something where you just get to enjoy the path of the characters and sort of, you get to relax, but also be thrilled at the same time. It's a masterpiece. But boy is a fucking masterpiece of comedy of the modern age.

It is. It really is. It really is. It really is. It's a masterpiece. It's so good, so cutting edge, so, it's just, oh God. And when you told me that you were going to be, it's like Hitchcock picking you for something. It's like Hitchcock picking you.

I am so excited to see this movie in the fact that you're in it. I'm a little like, it's a challenge to me, because you're my friend. So I'm gonna have to like, it's gonna be hard for you to watch it in the same way you watch other movies. But that's just what, you know, that's unfortunate.

Sometimes you don't get to watch things with them. You don't get to watch things in a way. You would have watched something else because you just know, if you know a lot about the thing, then you can't really enjoy it as much. I mean, I find that it was weird to find that other, if I know someone, I tend to enjoy the music that they make like 10 times more than a stranger. Isn't that weird? Well, yes. I mean, that I know what you mean. I feel like with email, like his music, it feels really close to me or something.

Right. I know what you mean, but I mean, I don't give a fuck. I will forget it's you, because you're a good actor. So I like, I wouldn't even seem like you after a few minutes. It might not. It is a weird character for me for real. Can you talk about what the movie's about? Or do you have to wait?

I can talk about it. What is the movie about? It's a movie about a guy who's like a loser divorced guy who's really into, um, into have to wait. I can talk about, what is the movie about? It's a movie about a guy who's like a loser, divorced guy who's really into, into saltwater fish and he's addicted to pills, to painkillers and stuff. He's just, his parents are dead and he's just sort of living off the residuals of their life.

And he, it's about a mermaid, he finds a mermaid. And it's not like a mermaid mermaid, like a beautiful, it's sort of like, it's imagine a splash, you know the movie splash? Of course. It meets like a sort of like a creature movie in a sense. Oh God. It just, it's just, it's scratching every fucking H.I.A.V. man.

Just, you know, any kind of aquatic cryptid, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be into that, man. Yeah, any aquatic cryptid cryptid cryptid cryptid cryptid. It looks insane. That the, that's the stuff we don't talk about or share because it's, you know, one to be a surprise for people.

But, man, I mean, the movie is called Mermaid, so it's not like any kind of a, right, you're not giving me more, right? Like in a way, but I mean, the way it looks is just incredible. Like, the first time I is called Mermaid, so it's not like any kind of a... Right, you're not giving anything more than that. Like in a way, but I mean, the way it looks is just incredible. Like, the first time I saw the Mermaid, I was like, oh, I was just staring at her in a way that, holy shit. And that's not even with any CG put over it. There's gonna be some little fleshing out of stuff, but... When can we look forward to this?

Gosh, I don't know, probably like early next year. Oh, God. Not that long, from now on. I don't know, wait. Yeah, it was a long... It was the hardest I ever worked on anything in my entire life, I don't know. Probably like early next year. Oh god. Not that long. No, no, wait. Yeah, it was a long, it was a long, it was the hardest I ever worked on anything in my entire life, I think. I mean, is this the first movie you started? The first movie I've been the lead of, yeah. You can, you don't say star anymore to you. That's like an arcade.

I don't know. Well, starring in a movie, you can be starting a movie, not be the lead of the film. You can really? Yeah, I think so. I guess I would say that like somebody stars and something. You would say like, like in the movie, a simple plan starring Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxden and Holly, what's your name? I think it's like a Danzy. Holly Danzy.

Holly Danzy or Jacob Shulman and clicky flan. Clicky flan weather. Clicky flan weather. What happened? I don't want to do like I don't want to do um Actually quit. He got he got his master's degree in microbiology. I know but I mean next thing he's seen like I keep seeing the pictures of him. I don't want to do like god wait, I'm bored. He gained a lot of weight, okay? He looks healthy though, I'll say that much. No, I don't care about the fucking weight,

it's the dorsal thin. Yeah. Or whatever that thing is that the prosthetic, or it's flesh or whatever, like who died, he's got a flap on his face now. Face-flop. Face-flop before him, I don't care. Look, honestly, I don't wanna sound like, this is a great way to sound fucking old is like

you start being like, ah, you shouldn't put flappy dorsal fins on your face. It's just, you know, I grew up with him. So it's like, and I'm used to the know whatever that is. The fin. He calls it a fin. I did. We'll not literally go to school with him. You know, just like that's like you would watch his specials on the TV all the time

Constantly constantly the dancing outlaws were just like Dude that movie holds up like you would because that's a kids movie Yeah, you wouldn't think it holds up. You wouldn't think you would work in the 80s that flame proof flame proof is I watched that once a week Flame proof is not dude and what's really fucking crazy is if you play the highway man, the album with Johnny Cash William Nelson, Merle Haggard, if you sink it up so you play the highway man and turn the volume down on flame proof, it sinks perfectly. And it's on purpose. Yes. Because that reminds me of touchdown Requiem, which is something that I've always,

I've always tried to watch, I just can't get through it. There's just so many touchdowns. It kind of makes you believe like, what team could get this many touchdowns? And it's a four hour movie. Yeah, four hours. God. Four hours of touchdowns.

Like, yeah, I'll watch a Comshot compilation. Oh, they love. Oh, I will. I gave up those for Lent last year and I haven't been back. Lent's over, but I can't watch touchdown. It's a touchdown compilation. Is it even a movie? Like, what's the plot?

You're just watching touchdown after touchdown after touchdown. I like, you know, I'm excited to see like a touchdown who isn't, but like, power two, you're like, come on. Like, something's got to happen. Yeah, maybe they'll get like a safety or something like that or like a touchdown who isn't, but like, Howard, too, you're like, come on, like, something's gotta happen. Yeah, maybe they'll get like a safety or something like that or like a pot return or a scoop and score. A scoop and score. There's that one moment, 90 minutes in where the dog comes out on the field.

Oh, I love that. I don't, it was a cocktail, because then it just goes off the field. Yeah, but there's a lot of people who speculate that that is the, that's when the movie stops because that's what the director wanted, how you wanted to end it and then the producers got a hold of it and ruined it. What do they call that again? Like that's, that's in a bunch of movies where the director sends a dog in or whatever

to indicate this is when I would in the movie. What is it called? What is it called? The Wolf Cut. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But what sucks about that is if you're watching a movie starring a dog or like a homeward bound or whatever, you know what I mean?

How do you know if there is a wolf cut because there's dogs already in the movie. So it's hard to say like, is this where he would end it? Because when the dog helps the beaver build the dam in a home or bound, you know, or the other dog runs out. It's like that at the end. I don't remember.

Since, along the scene, I can't remember, honestly. And by the way, that's not a cheesy way to get into my next question. Right. And I know you feel like you've told me many times that you don't want people. You don't like. You feel, I don't know what, you don't like, you feel,

I don't know what the word for it is, you feel weird when people are aware of all the service work you're doing out there. But dude, I do find it really fascinating. So you're working with the Beaver Aid Association. And I did not know that beavers were having such a hard time right now building their dams. Like I just assumed they're still out there chewing trees down, dragging the wood across the river. The numbers are low, the numbers are low, and the water areas, the wetlands of America

are in trouble. They have been for quite some time. Oh, so how does it, like, you explain this to me, and honestly, I don't remember all the details, but how does it even work? Like, how does it, I would imagine like, beavers run away when they see people, but you guys are out there helping them get the tree down, get the wood across for the day.

I'm like, how does, how do you assimilate in with the beavers? Well, it's a, it's all started with pancake bonanza, which is a group out of Oregon. Yeah. And they do these massive, massive pancake breakfast that go all, go straight to beavers. And they call it beaver tails is the LLC. L beaver tails.

What is, what do do Bivers usually eat? Bivers eat, you know, I don't know. That's no one knows. That's the thing about Bivers. You know how they didn't know how eels would reproduce for a long time? Long time. They don't know what Bivers eat.

A lot of times, we've pre-ears people thought they ate wood, but that doesn't make any sense because they're a mammal, or I think they're actually a marsupial of some kind, like a, in between, they're rodents, right? Sorry, they shouldn't be eating wood. No. So we just don't know.

People think it's something in the wood maybe. They're eating like maybe like a hot dog type creature in the wood. Like a larva? Yeah, like a wood dog. That's called a wood dog. These giant brown hot dog. That's, they look like a hot dog. That's what they're called that. But it's a larva? Yeah, like a wood dog. That's called a wood dog. This giant brown hot dog. That's, they look like a hot dog.

That's what they're called that. But it's a larva. It's disgusting. It is gross unless you're a beaver. But those, I mean, what's the documentary I saw a long time ago on beavers. And you know, you see one of them snatch one of those things. And you know, as opposed to other larvae that I've seen eaten in various documentaries,

they fucking believe. They read like, and they scream. And they scream, or it's like arterial blood and they're out of the tree. And the beaver makes that weird noise. They, it's so gross. It made me not like beavers. Like before that, I loved beavers.

And I, that's why people don't like bea, that's why we have such a problem with beavers like before that I loved beavers. That's why people don't like be it That's why we have such a problem with beavers now is because of that Well people are hunting them but just because of that. That's what they made this such good hats It's it but it is like that sound they make doesn't like, you know I don't obviously like I think assigning human ethical systems to beavers is an idiot's folly. But I wanna imagine that they are, like the stories, kind, they bring you gifts, they save kids from drowning and stuff like that.

But that sound implies they're not good creatures. Like that is, it's not just like they're glad to eat. It's like they're angry, almost like a sound of vengeance or a sound of just power, a power sound. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's just, it's a mystery of the ages. It's one of the, a lot of people think that the sound used to be different back in the day.

It used to sound like singing. Is that better? That's even more like, I don't know. I like singing. I don't know what you're saying. I like singing. These larvae. I like singing. I don't know what you know. I like singing These larvae I like singing okay. No, I'm not I know you know I look okay look I like singing no, I do too. I'm sorry, but I like singing okay Johnny Why are you implying with your tone that I don't I fucking love singing? Well you shouldn't you took it while to say that and you didn't say

I said it right away from saying nothing to I love singing, and I'm saying I, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I like singing. Okay, let me ask you, what makes you think that I don't like singing? Well, everything that you just said before you said you like singing? What did I say specifically? Nothing, silences, silences, if you're not,

if you're not telling people that you like singing, then we just have to assume that you don't. Where did you get that from? Like where did you get that idea from? Where did you work? Celebrity Instagram, I won't name, but a celebrity Instagram. Oh my God.

Here we go. Dude, this is to me like, I love you like a brother. I'm sorry, but I like singing. I know, but ever since you got in the Andrew Tate. It's not Andrew, okay, it's not bringing Andrew into this, Andrews. But Daddy, what celebrity Instagram? I'm not gonna say.

Why? Because I don't wanna make it about that. It's not about that celebrity. Okay. Do you follow a lot of celebrities on Instagram? No, I don't. I don't, I don't. You make it about that. It's not about that celebrity. Do you follow a lot of celebrities on Instagram? No, I don't. I don't, I don't. You only follow Andrew Tate.

I don't follow. You have one follow on Instagram and it's Andrew Tate. That must be a different account that I don't know about. I'm gonna pull it up right now. Go ahead, pull it up. Go ahead, pull it up. I'm gonna turn it in. And let's go to the phone.

Okay. I'm returning and let's go. Okay. Andrew Tate. I must have been someone else who changed our name. Must have been like someone from the Raptor program that I'm interested in. All right, I don't want to get into it. Look, let's get love who you love.

Like who you like. Follow you, follow. But don't use the like half-witted philosophies of somebody that you're enamored with to insult your friend. We've been friends for so long, man. And it's just, I don't wanna think that like some dude is getting into our friendship. Okay, let's pull it back and let's do a reset and we'll just pretend

like they didn't say that and you know, move forward and talk about, we can talk about cars, we can only wrap up the beaver thing real quick. Sure, wrap it up. Yes, wrap it up. Okay, so you guys, you're out there feeding pancakes to bevers. Yeah, I'm not feeding pancakes to bevers, I feed them to people so they can donate to the beaver fund. Okay, you're feeding pancakes to people to get money for the beaver fund. Right. And how, like, because I know you,

and I know you wouldn't get involved in any kind of weird organization. Right. So how do you respond to like all the beaver experts out there who are saying that it's not healthy for people to Get into the nests with like to get into the dams like you guys are like going into the actual dam Underneath all the sticks. Yeah, and like spooning the beavers. Well, we do scuba. It's scuba

It's scuba can be very safe if you're trained. And I'll just say that. I'll say that once I'll say it twice. I'll say it a hundred times. If you're trained, scuba can be very safe. What does it mean like scuba, but no, you're, I've seen the pictures there. Fuck and weird. Like I, what's her face?

You're the leader of the group. Like a mud. Yeah, I'm muddy down there. Like holding the beaver. It looks confused, it looks scared. Like it doesn't seem natural to do that. Well, maybe it's not natural, but it's something that is,

it's part of how we interact with the beavers. It's called breaking the stigma, okay? And it doesn't. What's in stigma? The stigma that you started doing. The beavers are bad and they shouldn't be touched and they're going to get their killers and they're like, they're maniacs.

A lot of people think they're maniacs because of one beaver in about 1925, 1927. Yeah. One beaver got caught on the wheel of an airplane and it flew across the Pacific, and it was going nuts, making all these sounds that landed in France. And then I think that Charles Limberg said,

and this beaver was just going nuts, because it was like, how a bunch of bacteria in it that was animating it. And people thought it was a beaver, and just, you know how word spread back then. It's like the movie jaws, right? Great white sharks will never be viewed differently because of Jaws. Are they dangerous? Yes, but do they behave like they're doing the movie?

I don't think so. I wouldn't want to be around one. And this is what people think, that's what people say crazy is a beaver. Because it's one beaver that happened to have a bacterial infection that made it go go go go back to the last moment. It's some like that essentially a beaver version of that and it was attached to that wheel of the airplane back when aviation was novel and a million people would show up to see a special plane land because they had nothing else to do. Well, I mean it did chew out the wheel. It caused the plane to crash.

But the crat and see there you go. This is why we expel in the beavers because it misinformation like that. This episode of the DTFH has been supported by Squarespace. My friends, if you have a podcast, if you have any kind of content that you're putting out there on your socials, you need a home base and nexus point, a gathering point, an area of interest and nucleus of glory online. That's your website. And Squarespace is the toolbox you need to construct, maintain, expand, and evolve, said nucleus of power at your website. They got everything you need. You want to create a website quickly? You can do it with your mix and match templates. You want to go deep. You want to create a website quickly? You can do it with our Mix and Match templates.

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Okay. Can you tell people where to find the foundation if they're interested in volunteering or doing it? Yeah. We actually have a blind trust and we have a map point set up just because we have difficulty. So I would say there's a map point. It's like how these to do raves back in the day where you have to go to a special place.

So yeah. Okay. But you just send a self-addressed envelope to a flapjack, flapjack bananza, and you can Google the address online. I'll put the links up on my website. The links will be in the comment section of this if you are interested in helping out this organization. And I think it's great you're doing it. And I trust you, man.

I'm sure any of the controversy surrounding what you guys are doing is overblown in these days of misinformation. Exactly, I totally, that's the thing. You gotta get ahead of it, but it's too late for that. So, you know, we're getting up behind it and we're patting on the butt. We're doing the good old push, push, push, they call it. Do you have any plans of going on the road

on doing stand up, are you now that you've done this movie? have any plans of going on the road and doing stand up, are you now that you've done this movie? Are you like onto the next movie? Because you are the most of all, like all my friends who are comedians, you're the one who like is acting who's in serious shit all the time. Like you have transcended you are an actor, your TV actor, your professional actor.

I do like it. I feel good. I mean this past time it was felt really good because it felt like I was being challenged. Like more than I ever have been before and I think it feels really good to be like really put upon, I mean like to have like a lot of weight to carry. I think I like, I think I realized recently that I really enjoy being uncomfortable, which is kind of weird. What do you mean by that? Like I really like being in situations where I'm uncomfortable and having to,

having to like, I don't know, deal with them, having to like get through it. Does I think a lot of stuff with, a lot of stuff with acting is extremely uncomfortable, like physically and mentally? Okay, so I think what you're talking about is a good sign. Right. And it's an interesting thing, like, you know, with standup. Right.

In the early days of stand up for me You would you would pay attention who you were following and you would be like oh no I've got a fucking follow that guy and you hated it But now you're now I'm like I want to see what it's like like I want to like go in the wake Yeah somebody you just is like selling out Amp theaters somebody who just is like selling out amp theaters. Probably bomb, I don't know, but it experienced that level of like shifting the energy away from that.

I mean, like that is a, to me, I look at that as a good sign, because it's like, you're like, okay, I wanna like, you know, get better. And like, I want challenge. So I guess, I mean, I have to like, you know, get better and like I want, I want to get challenged. So I guess, I mean, I have no way to compare. I don't have a basis point here to compare to what it's like to be the lead in a movie because you know, the closest I have to, which isn't even close, is like headlining.

Right. A club. And that's not even close, but you know, you have to put on a good show. Like the people before you, if they tank or whatever, they were featuring whatever, but you're the one people came to see. You have to do good. So there's that sort of pressure. You have to shell up. You have to be present. But with a movie, it's, I don't know how what the budget was for, for mermaid, but my god, like, that's gotta be in the back of your head,

which is like, you're carrying an entire movie on your back. Fuck, dude. Yeah, I guess so. Feel like, do you just keep out of your mind? I don't know. It's not in my mind at all, really. I mean, because it's not, I'm not,

to some extent I am, but also every single person who works on it is they're doing the same thing. They're all part of the same organism that has the same goal. And so everything that I need is, if I ask something of someone, it's because to help, I think about it as being of service. You're being of service to the movie, to the picture.

You're being of service to the thing. Because it's not like me. I'm not being of service to myself. I'm being of service to the greater thing that is making this film. Because it's making movies totally absurd. It's the most, it takes so much energy and time and money and all these things that are patently absurd

if you look at it from like some sort of like a, an Amazon metric perspective, streamlining your business, you know, that kind of thing. It's so fucking ridiculous to do that. It makes no sense to make a movie. It's like the dumbest thing in the world you can possibly do. But, so, right. I mean, it's a severe risk.

Like, it can only be risky. And you have to get investors. And these are people who are trusting you, who believe in you. And they're investing, and like they're everyone is taking this collaborative risk. Oh yeah. So, but it's all because you want to do it so bad because you just like the the making of it is so enjoyable

because making the product is so it's so rewarding that that makes up for all this absurd stuff you're doing like the hours that are weird and all the different things you have to do, they're just kind of flying the face of logic. Yeah. I was thinking about that and we're making a couple, because a couple of days are just really, really difficult, like really hard. We're on a boat, you know, for 10 hours,

people are getting seasick and stuff, it's just like real rough. And how absurd it is to do that, because you can make, you could work the same hours and make a lot more money doing something else easily. Well, I mean, this, like, not to go back to Butt Boy, but I think it's important. So, Butt Boy should not exist.

Like, if we are going to make a move, if like the goal of making movies is to profit margin, then Butt Boy, based on that, should not exist. Because nobody is when they're green lighting a movie, is going to green light Butt Boy, if their goal is to make money because they're going to hear the name right and they're going to go well first of all we will green light the ship you're not calling it but boy yeah and then they're going to be like yeah we'll

green light this but we're not going to we're going to have to like redo the lead here like this lead isn't going to happen and we're going to have to change it. It can't be a movie about a killer putting people or a and it was asshole. We're going to so let's make it a different way that they kill the person, like maybe strangulation or something like that and then like make it a hard boiled detective movie and then it's not but boy anymore. It's the strangler. But then it's boring and that's the beauty of independent cinema. As you get to make stuff that doesn't have a bunch of people controlling it for the reasons that are not to make something good and interesting.

You're trying to make something profitable. But there's tons of movies that get made all the time that are made for profit. And we know about those ones because those are the ones where it's like, like a season of, a season of blood. Or like, just weird titles with like Bruce Willis' face on or something like that, when he shows up for a day, and they shoot him out,

and they have all these people who are not actors at all, or like just the, they're made for cheap, because they know they can promote it. They know they can make a profit with it. There's companies that turn these out and they do make money off them because they are, that's their whole goal. They're not trying to make something special that's going to get any kind of an award or any kind of like make someone think.

It's like just something that you can sell based upon the cover on like a VOD listing or something like that. And those are always going to exist, I think, and they have for a long time. But if you make it, and movie with independent financing with producers who are like, they're interested in making something unique, because if you make a great movie that's really fun

and people love it, that's like, in a way, it's kind of like writing your ticket to do other things. All the people that we like who are now like big directors, a lot of those people started off by making something small, kind of weird for not much money because someone took a chance on them and then you realize, it's like the kind of thing where no one knows how to do anything and when someone shows up and it's like, hi, I wrote this thing and I think it's, I think I can make it good and they're like, okay, they give them a try and they do it.

If you do something once effectively, if you make a good movie once for not a whole lot of money, then you got a lot of confidence in you for at least a couple of years because people think like, well, I don't know how to do it, but this guy seems to know how to do it. So we're gonna have to trust him. But I mean, it goes all over the place though. I mean, I don't even know, I know just a tiny amount about it, but there's just so much bullshit wrapped up and everything.

And it's always changing too. The dynamics are always changing. Like what is independent? What is in there's some stuff that's like partially independent, there's stuff. It, like what is independent, what is it, there's some stuff that's partially independent, there's stuff that seems independent, but it's not, this is all kinds of things like that. And I don't know.

It's hard. I have a question for you regarding the director role. Right. What qualifies a person to be a director? Well, that's actually, there's an old funny joke that people have. They say, director is the only entry-level job on set. It's the only job you don't have to have any experience to do, which is technically 100% true, except some actors get hired to have no experience at all.

But you don't have to have, you have a director in the movie until you've directed a movie. Maybe you've done some shorts and stuff. Maybe you've shot your own things, like made some little things and you have directed before, but there is no real qualification. Other than you have to, I think you have to be kind of like a psychopath in a way, like sort of a psychopath, not like a psychopath, like a murderer, but someone who has enough confidence in what they're doing to do something that is, you know,

it's just this impossible thing. I think also a lot of directors are just really like hyper intelligent in a way that is very specific, like a specific type of intelligence, you know, where they're able to like visualize things and understand what they want to shoot, like they can, can understand the visual language significantly like some some directors are super visual and they know all the

shots and they don't they don't even need a DP that much a director of photography to help them and some directors are a clueless to that and the DP arranges all the shots and they just work with the actors because that's the aspect of it that they understand the most. And there's some people who were like involved in every aspect of the production like Kubrick, you know, he was a, he was a DP himself, so he like was super, he was very meticulous. Yeah, extremely meticulous, like in a way where nothing else in life mattered but the movie. And there's a lot of those guys who are like that where they're just there's such hard asses that it's hard to describe a harder a harder person but there's also people like West Craven and

stuff who you hear stories about just being the most soft gentle people and they still get it done I think it's just about having this I think it's about having such a intense drive and determination to make something that you're willing to deal with just constant onslaught of bullshit and questions and problems and all these things that, because there's always going to be problems. There's always going to be problems and you have to be like, okay, okay. So we lost the donkeys and now all we have is birds. Okay, so how do you make the birds work in the story and still get this thing made?

Like I just, it's a huge part of the job is putting out fires. Oh yeah, like triage. It triage and how much? So it's like, I guess the, like if we're thinking about it in military terms. Right. The director is like patent.

He's the general. And he has all these sergeants that are coming up to him. He's got craft services coming up to him and being like, they discovered E. coli and the macaroni and cheese. All right. And he's got, you know, the person who's running the extras, who's like, you know, three of the extras have E. coli. And you know what I mean? And he's like having to stop the primary job, which I would imagine

would be the sort of creatively visualizing each scene, making sure that it looks the way the storyboards look or what's in his head. and then being like, fuck, can we get, activate a charcoal, get activated charcoal for the extras, give it to them, it might keep them from puking a lot after. Well, I don't know if they would be doing that necessarily because that's something where if you are directing something and someone approaches you with that problem,

you'd be like, this is not, you take care of this. This is, your job is to make sure I don't know about that thing. Oh, okay, so, okay, great. So then the job becomes looking at the shot, making sure the shot matches whatever's written or the storyboard, and then, everyone's, imagine imagine then the director as this intimate relationship,

almost like a Hannibal Lecter-style connection to the actor. Oh yeah, it's super intimate. So okay, so talk about that. Like, so you, let's say you do a take. Right. And it isn't that good. Yeah.

And, but you think it's good. If you ever had that happen where you think you've got a great take on it. You've got a great take on it. The director is like, no, that's not fucking it. Yeah, all the time, constantly. What does that look like? Well, it just depends.

A lot of times, it just depends on where you are and the kind of thing and what your relationship is like, but there's some extent, a lot of times, I'm just, I don't know if it's good at all, I'm just gonna do it. I don't have time to think if it's good at all. I don't have time. Let's do a quick improv.

I'm gonna be the actor, you're the director. Okay. Okay, so I'm gonna do a monologue, and then you direct me. Okay. You gonna say action? Action. Or I'll be like the Clint Eastwood, uh, when you're ready.

So what? It's the old man's dying. So what's that got to do with me? Okay. Cut. I like that. That's really good. I think, um, it's great.

Let's go to the next scene. Okay. I know. I want to get it. I want a couple. I think. Thanks, great. Let's go to the next scene. Okay. I want to get it, I want, I'm going to a couple more times here. Oh, that was it. Okay. Well, um, it felt good to me. I want to the next scene.

No, we're not done yet. I want to do it again. I like that. But I think you need to slow it down a bit. Let it breathe. Kind of let it breathe. And really let the, just let some air into the, to the line. It's an air into it. Really let's get into it. And just, yeah, and really let the air into the line.

Let's see what I can do. Really let some air into it. And just, yeah, just pace it down quite a bit. All right. Okay, whenever you're ready, we're still rolling. Great. Thanks for letting me know that. So what?

It's the old man's mind. I'm gonna stop you right there. She can just don't what the fuck what the fuck I need to just to take your glasses off and also No, are you fucking kidding me? No, no, okay look Don't gonna if you could just actually I want you to just look at one just one place. No god damn it It's okay. No, it's great. It's great. We're getting there. I just need you to really focus on your eyes. You're moving around a lot. We really need to have them not moving around at all. All right.

Okay. We're still rolling. Are we still rolling? Okay. Actually, they have to do it. We have to do it. Cards almost full. Okay.

We'll change in the card here. So let's just run through it real quick while they change the card. Okay, so just give it to me one more time. And yeah, with your eyes open though. That is as much as they open. They can open more. No, they're swollen. No, they're not.

Okay, so let's try it real quick. Okay. So, oh man's dead. Are you going to say action? No, we're just going to run it. They're changing the card. Okay. I'll be good with that. Can we have, come, sorry, can we please clear the set? This is private rehearsal, please. No, don't clear the set. Yes. Okay. I want everyone to witness the brutality of this fucking director. Do not leave. I don't know how old you are friends, but I went through a prohibition. We're still a sort of an prohibition, but not like it used to be back in the 90s when you discovered that weed was the greatest thing that ever happened to plant at Earth.

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Yeah. That's cool, man. That's it. And then you start really trusting the director. Oh, I have to have complete and total trust. And then that's when I think that must be a really beautiful part of the collaboration. Yeah. It's because now you have this conductor who is like amplifying what you're already good at

in a way that you trust. And so then it must be awesome. Like there must be this cool harmony that happens where you're this weird team. And then God damn, you must get like so attached to the director. I call my torturer. Are you serious? Yeah, I always say I'm on my torturers here.

But I love it. I love being tortured. Wow. I really do. I fucking love it. I love being like just, you know, just fucking beating to nothing. Like having a beat where it's not good,

it's like do it again and again and again. And it's so, because I mean with Tyler, it's that way because he's very, very humble about everything, but he's like extremely, extremely precise about everything, because the humor that exists and his stuff is walks this very, very thin line between being, like, too absurd where it's not fun.

It's too silly to be so dark that it's not funny. And so I think to walk that line, you have to be, you have to be doing stuff that to me is anothetical to anything I've ever done before. And so it took me a little bit to realize that. Like there's one time we're shooting, I'm coming down the stairs and I notice something on the corner of my eye like this wheelchair

and then I see this box of photos on a kind of clock it and then I hesitate for a second and then I walk over to look at it and we shot it a bunch of times, like probably seven or eight times and there's one time where I did it. And I was like, I was great, but just don't move your head at all when you see the box. I'm thinking like, I fucking did with my head. I did like this and went like, just a small, a small, a thing, but he saw it.

And I'm like, my God, it's like, it's like having someone like they can see literally everything you're doing and thinking all the time to where you're so incredibly exposed all day to where it's like I just have to be well fuck I I have to I don't know it's like really it's just this thing we're focusing so much doing exactly what is asked that it's like it it's an interesting, I don't know, it feels really good in a way. It feels like sort of this thing where like meditative and sense, because it has to focus so much.

I mean, it weirdly parallels the cult leader disciple relations. Oh yeah, totally. So it's like the cult leader is like commanding you and like controlling you in every single fucking way. Oh, yeah totally. So it's like the cold leader is like commanding you and Direct and like controlling you in every single fucking way like you to the point of your thoughts is like controlling your thoughts and demanding a surrender that flies in the face of Everything

Human you we don't want a surrender our rational mind to some fucking dude, but like in it's scary. Yeah, it's scary. I think that's the hardest part of it is being having like the, I think for me it's the hardest thing is having the where with all to not try to like win something in the moment or not try to like, I'm not doing it for me at all and I'm not doing it for the day. It's like this thing, you're doing something that's for something so far in the future, you really have to like put away any kind of personal desire which is super difficult, I think.

I mean, especially if you, you know, do comedy at all because it's such an instant gratification. Sometimes it's, it feels like it Sometimes it feels like you're not doing anything even though you are. Right. Right. Well, this is why I think it's very rare that you, that the hybrid exists, like someone who's brilliantly

funny on stage and someone who's a good actor. Because the two, one, I think one lends to the other in a certain way. But really they're like, antithetical. One is you're being yourself, the others you're being someone else. One is you're listening to every instinct you have and following that. The other is you're avoiding every instinct you have or or or or pruning your instincts to Harmonize with the directors and instincts which is why like I think most comedians when they find themselves in

The situation of being a professional actor and realize oh, this isn't saying words or You know emoting this is dance. This is like You know, I have to step, this number of steps in this eye line and look down at this, and on top of that be a different character. And on top of that, make it seem like there's not cameras everywhere.

Yeah. How the fuck, how does anyone do that? Much less psychotic. I think it's psychotic in a way. It's very much, I don't know, it doesn't make any sense, but I think it's psychotic in a way. It's very much, I don't know, it doesn't make any sense, but I think it's just about focus, just focus as all it is. I think it's just focused in terms of having to, you just have to throw everything away

and be like, only thing that matters is to be of service. And that's super hard, I think. I learned that the hard way, like years ago, was this TV show I was doing was like falling apart because it was like, I wasn't doing what I was told I was be doing, I wasn't being used, how I thought I was going to be used. It was like a comedian, you know, I was being very, I hadn't played this very straight character in everything.

And it made me really depressed and angry about stuff because I was like, you know, this was the first season of the show. So that's when you've kind of form all the stuff gets formed the first season. And the concrete's wet, so to speak. So you have to make sure what you're putting in there is what you want because it's going to last for a long time. The character is not going to change. Yeah.

So you want to make sure you do you establish things early. And it was running up against a lot of opposition and at some point I think I was talking about a therapist about it and he was like you just have to be you have to just change this to be where it's not about you at all You have to you're in service of the thing and I started I guess I have to be right because I can't put I can't fight this train So I just have to help push it and I just just helped me so much, the idea of just being, just being of service to everyone else. And that's what they teach.

And that's one of the first things they ever teach in improv is not, don't try to ever be funny. You wanna make the person next to you, make them funny. You don't, everyone wanna try to be, like, you don't wanna try to stand out, try to be like special or cool or funny or

win. You want to, you want to win, you win as a team and you want as a team by helping the other person yeah, uh, achieve be their best. And I think there's something about that that's like this, this like great ego destroyer and that that feels so good because you don't give a shit about anyone thinks because it doesn't matter man you don't care about. I don't care about me. I care about I'm just I'm just a serving. I'm serving. I'm a I'm what you call I'm a servant for.

I'm really a servant. You know, man, and again, it's a distant comparison, but this is what I really love about Rogan's club out here is because, you know, in the green room, it's like a regular occurring group of comedians, and we all are hanging out every week, and like all the shit that can happen when you're at a show with comedians you don't know,

or you know, sometimes this like dark competitive thing or a hierarchical thing pops up, whereas like now we all, it's like a workshop. And it's so cool, because everyone trusts, everyone else is like comedic skill set. And so like you, if you're working on a joke, you'd be like, hey, what do you guys think about this?

And like you get this like brain farm of people improving each other's jokes. And it's so fucking cool. I've never really experienced it like that before. It's like a beautiful thing. And you know, what you're talking about, it applies to like literally everything, even stand up comedy on stage,

because you can be the comedian that goes on stage, because you want the ego boost of making a room with people laugh, or you can remind yourself when you're going on stage, you're trying to give people a good night. Like you're giving, you know what I mean? Like you shouldn't be taking from the audience. Like you should be hopefully giving them something.

They give you their attention and their attention gives you the ability to like, to live like you get to fly on the energy, to like surf on it. And you get to feel good because you're surfing on it, and then they get to feel good. It's like that thing when someone says, oh my God, thank you so much. It was such a great show. Anytime someone says that, I'm always like, yeah.

You may have had fun, but not I had more fun. I know I had more fun than you did. Right, you, I mean, yeah, you're saying more fun. For sure, I mean, that's, you can't, if you're up there and you're not having fun, they're so mad at that, that they hate that. It's like, oh great. Wow, I'm sorry. Are you can't if you're up there and you're not having fucking fun. They smell that that that that they hate that it's like oh great Wow, I'm sorry. Are we inconveniencing you by being a fucking audience boy? Sorry, do we get in the way of your plans tonight? You asshole you ego maniacal piece of shit?

What the fuck's wrong with you? Yeah, I like it cuz like Ron white when he gets off stage sometimes Yeah, I like it because like Ron White, when he gets off stage sometimes, I, well, I just, some do it once, but he looks like, thank you for letting me do this any minute. Yeah, and it was like, whoa, that's so fucking cool. You know, like that is that, dude.

That's that. Yeah, that is really good, because it's just, you know, thanking, yeah, being grateful for something like that. That's like such a, it's so hard to, that's fucking hard to do it, but. Well, I mean, you gotta, it's like such a, it's so hard to, it's fucking hard to do it, but. Well, I mean, you gotta, it's like a constant reminder. It's so dark when you hear about these fucking comedians

or actors who ever out there who are annoyed when I'm being to stand down on the street. They're annoyed. They look at people as like peasantry or some shit. And then of someone dares, come up to them and say You changed my life man. They're like get them busy right now motherfucker And it's like what is wrong with you you vampire you beast Yeah, it's I think but sometimes I get it, you know like you have not everyone's perfect all the time

But I don't like it at the porn theaters, you know That sucks when I'm like about to blast and somebody's like, how you're the selfie? Come on man. You got your skies on and everything I got my fucking disguise on got my clown suit on It's just come on friends out there like any other time I don't care. I like it But Jesus Christ when I'm about to blast I'm almost 50 it takes like bomb salves Pills just maintain a mild like rubbery erection So like when you see me at the theater and you see I'm gonna be out to blast fucking be Let just until I blast theater and you see how my body is about to blast. I'm fucking be.

Let just until I blast. Like, because honestly, man, I've had to do the selfie because I don't like saying no. And I've also seen that times when people come up to you and the point theater and they're like, you think they want to selfie, but they just want you to take a picture of them. And that's kind of embarrassing.

I think I've seen you do that a bunch of times where it is embarrassing. Yeah. And I feel like I always feel like a real narcissistic piece of shit when I'm like, hey, I'm about to blast, dude. Let's get a picture later. And they're like, what? No, I want to picture. No, you fucking are.

Yeah. I wanted you to take a picture of me blasting. You think you are. Take a, I'm about to blast. Snap a shot, dude. This is like, because I do think like what you're'm about to blast. Snap a shot, dude. This is like, because and I do think like what you're talking about does extrapolate to theater politics, porn theater politics, you know, which is like, you know, when I go into a porn theater,

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No. This is like the height of pathos. This is. OK. So I've been noticing that I will go in the steam room at the gym. It doesn't matter. I walk in and people, I don't know how long they've been in there. I'll sit down at the steam, the steam.

And I mean, this is humiliation. This is actually work out before you work out. I steam after I work out. I'd be weird to steam before I do. I don't know. Maybe it's a thing now. Who does that? Who who seems before a workout You don't sweaty. I just game. I only steam. It's like showering before a workout or something Okay, yeah, so I come in there and you know admittedly man I'm like I'm bench pressing like five six hundred pounds at this point. I'm like wow

Dude my glutes are fucking rock hard man man. And like, I'm just... That's your butt. That's not your chest, though. We, we, yeah. Yeah. I know that. I'm talking about my pecs and my glutes. Oh. I'm not just talking about my pecs. Okay. Okay.

Okay, get out of this. Steameroon. You know what? If I'm making you insecure, we don't have to talk about it. Oh, I'm fucking Zen. Oh, I'm fucking Zen now I'm fucking Zen. All right You know look, hey, I wish I was starring in movies. I'm sure you wish you were fucking getting rock hard fucking glutes out here And I was talking about the I'm coming out there soon. I'm coming out there and I'm gonna get that hit that steam room Tell me about the steam room politics. Okay. This is what I've been noticing creeping into my mind. So embarrassing.

And I don't know if it's just some like, if it's like getting in the loft of like a bunch of dudes test testosterone, fair amounts or something, because I've never thought of myself as like a high-t person. Right. But I'll sit there. And if someone gets up before me and leaves in my mind,

I'll be like, I have to beat him like I want. Really? Like it's an endurance competition. Like my ego has just decided to compete with random dudes in towels as though we were in some kind of embarrassing steam off. I think that makes sense. I've done I do the same thing all the time but not with steam room, but with other things. There's like any kind of thing where you can

commodify it or not monetize it. Anytime you can like measure something, there's a part of your brain that is just I think it all becomes from us being having so much mental power that we just, anytime is a law, then we're like, let's try to evaluate something here, because we're just not, you know, like we're designed to last through famines and design to do what the most most extreme situations, yet we're almost never put to the test. So it's like, anytime there's the slightest bit of lull, we just instantly go back to trying to

these primitive things. That's the thing that to me is the greatest difficulty, as far as ego stuff goes, is being able to get beyond the primitive brain, which is like always trying to pull you, sometimes it's good, but a lot of times it's this thing where you're trying to like put yourself in a, like a regimen something or structure,

something that has no structure, just because it's in place of some sort of a hierarchy that would be existing in a primitive situation. Or you're just like, you've got to void in you. I mean, it's like, you know, it's like, what am I missing? What is far as like external validation goes, what underneath, like the thin layer of identity that I call myself what fucking just sad empty Gulf is just in there like that it's like God I

Need to win man. I need to fucking win and and I And I think this is why I get obsessed with the Reddit justice served. Or, you know what I mean? Like you watch videos people getting well deserved beating. Instant karma. Instant karma. And then you're watching that. But it's a thirst or something for balance. You're going out into the external world for it's so fucking,

it's so embarrassing. It really is. That's the kind of thing where it's so hard to like, put your, to be in your best self, to be in your best mind and be like, always think about that. Was it vengeance's mind, sayeth the Lord? Sayeth the Lord.

And that's so hard to remember that. It's like a thing where, you know what, no one wins, everyone dies, and it's not my place to put anyone in their place at all. Like who am I, to say anything about anything ever? Obviously, it's nice to help people and to be like, you know, to assist someone, but the idea of the opposite is just like, fucking, that comes

from that same thing where you're just trying to, trying to, I think what it is, honestly, I'm thinking about this a lot in the past two months or so. It's all just like us trying to find some form of control in our lives because everything, it's just, it's so hard to, to realize that we don't have any control at all. And only the you can't control is how you view something and how you react to things. But we want to have like a thing where, I fucking won, I got, I got them. You know, I think the like, archetypical example of this like in the extreme is Cape Fear right the movie Da Nero has decided to become God's hand of justice like and I think he has shit tattooed on him

Like in the beginning when he's like doing that famous fucking exercise scene before he gets released from prison for those of you Haven't seen Cape Fear, the one I'm talking about is the remake, not the original remake, Star's Robert De Niro, as a ex-con who was unjustly put into prison, not because he didn't do something wrong, but he did, he assaulted a woman, but there was some kind of loophole

that he should have gotten out on and his defense attorney didn't defend him fully because his defense attorney wanted to be the hand of God's vengeance in the world. And so... Snicknulty, right? Nicknulty kills it. And so, nulty fucking like, you know, is broken the primary rule of being an attorney, which is you, I can't remember, you passionately defend. An attorney client? Well, yeah, whatever it is.

Yeah, yeah, and what he did was transcendent in the sense that he went against his sacred duty for a higher calling, which is like this motherfucker, I think like raped and beat a woman or something like that. So De Niro is aware of whatever this malfeasance is, spends however long he's in prison just to get jacked. Like I can't even imagine his training routine before that fucking movie.

Like ripped De Niro. Like, I can't even imagine his training routine before that fucking movie. Like, ripped, denaro, Jesus fucking Christ dude. Like, scary, scary, just ex-con muscles. They perfectly train him. And the knee goes and stalks Nick Nolte's family. Seduce is his fucking daughter, a very controversial scene where he, like, makes out what's your face. Julia Lewis who I think at the time of filming was.

19. Yeah, maybe younger. I don't know. Maybe younger. And like. She was so good. She's like, she's like a real actor. She's like the real thing. You know what I mean? Like nuts, but nuts. Nuts. And so like, you know, the point is, Nuts. Nuts. And so like, you know, the point is, they both represent people who I think have succumbed to the desire to be God, you know, succumbed to the idea that like their job, their mission in life was to exact vengeance in the name of justice. Both of them wanted justice. Both of them, like it's so good, the parallel, like they're basically the same fucking thing. I didn't think about that. I have to watch it again with that in my,

because it's like, yeah, I never thought about that aspect of it. That's interesting. The idea that they have like a... They're meant to do something. They're being guided by God. They think they're being guided by God. They think they're being guided by God. They think they're being guided by God. Delusion, and hubris, both of them are like, Proud, or so proud that neither can surrender to like the faith that like the universe is gonna take care of itself here. You don't need to do anything. This will work its way out if

there truly is justice in the world. And you know, and then that's the fucking question it's asking, I guess, is like, is there justice in the world? Is there a universal calculator that is actually going to bring justice into the world. Or are we supposed to be at constant war with one another to exact justice? It's so fucking good, man. I might have to watch it again. I'm going to watch it again, too. I kept staying in Florida. I kept seeing these Ospreys. They would fly over me and sometimes, oh, man, I said,

Osprey fly over me one time and I kept thinking, like, this is like, well, this is God. Just these Ospreys are God. Yes. There's just crazy these birds are like these such big wingspanes, they're swooping down, getting fish. They're so like, I don't give a fuck about anything.

I kept thinking how they're like, God. And I also kept thinking about this idea. I mean, I told you about this, but I kept thinking about this phrase, God sent me to torture the devil. I love thinking about that, because to me that means like God created me or anyone just to be something that's uncorruptible.

Like you're torturing the devil because the devil is trying to manipulate you, trying to destroy you, trying to bring you down and make you like egotistical or defensive or like, you know, being acting, trying to, anything that's, anything that's satanic, but you're created to torture, you're torturing the devil with your actions by being,

like you seem like you might be but every and every chance that there's opportunity to do something Terrible you do the opposite and it tortures the devil because you're like a fucking you're like this being of light that is just indestructible and it tortures the devil and makes him like fucking furious Well the devil sent me to torture God. We'll see there he goes. He goes there. Direction. So you and I are at odds. No, we're not. No, we're not my friend because we're the same.

Okay. In the devil just different sides of the same coin, different sides of the same coin. And you can play your godly game all you want. Because we have all the time in the world. I'm just a tool. I don't even know what. I'm just a tool. I'm an instrument. Just an instrument.

I'm an instrument. I have no desire in my body. I have no wishes, no wants, nothing. Like a little pacifier. I'm just whatever whatever the god-pastifier is. It's a little pacifier. I'm just feeling I do it. It's a little pacifier.

God's a little pacifier. That's all you are. Just a little, little rubble, a rubble, little thing. Just a little, with a little dangling hook. Say all you want. Go ahead. Say all you want to me. Speak your riddle. Speak your riddle. You're a jungle pacifier boy. You're a jungle and bangles. You can't, you can't break through my I was my best of iron We ain't need daddy Oh, you'll come around

You'll come around Oh devil, I'll laugh at you I'll laugh at you poor devil I'll wait for you I'll tell you what I'll wait for you Oh you'll wait? I'll wait for you I'll do it

Well maybe we're gonna get you a nappy And wipe away your tears I thought you're coming outside I'll nap in fire. You're coming outside and you're win You win and every time they all get up And leave you being there Drizboan not a single drop of sweat on you, not even to steam, getting your wet in there. Dr. Bohn, why you watched the muscle men walk on out? While God drips water into my mouth,

through a hole in the top of my head. Oh, little trippin' in there, y'all out there trippin' in again, getting drillin' a hole in your head. I got a hole in the top of my head that God delivers the juice to. Oh, the Lord, the Lord in God and God and God and God. Let me tell you something. Lord is a lot like Joe Biden. He might have been with there.

Well, at some point when he's been there, making the dinosaurs and the trees, you know, that he had old. He got old, he's fallen and he can't get up and he don't have a life alert. You can try to bring Brandon into this, but Brandon ain't got nothing to do with what I do. He's out there in the Milky Way.

Out there in the Milky Way, I'm falling and I can't get up. God, he's wild, y'all are down here. Oh Lord, oh Lord, he gonna come back and give us our die piece. Yeah. Put your stinger away, You can't sting me. I'm a piece of gel. I'm like a big sack of gel, un-stingable.

Well, let me show you something right now. Go ahead, tell me all you want. Tell me your riddles. Pull over me to death. Sometimes it's the venom that makes the antivinum. And sometimes that stinger brings the the healing and you need to sting. You need to deal with up there on the Milky Way. They picked him up with the James Webb telescope up there.

Tarot fell off. He's all flabbing old, just whipping around up there. Got his foot in a black hole. One hand stuck on a neutron star and he's out following and I can't get up. That's who you're worshiping. Was that good? That was great. Is that the take?

I think so. I think that's the take. That was, I think I like it. I want to roll it back. I'm going to look at playback real quick. I want to see. Oh, you know what? We have to do one again for camera.

We were out of focus. What the fuck? Fuck! Hey. That was golden. You fucking CGI. You can make it. You say, I, I gotta get to fucking grab services.

Look, I want it. Well, what do you need, sir? We'll bring it to you. I don't want it here. I want it in my fucking trailer, man. I know you're the fucking break. Bill, fuck you, man. Can you get Mr. Mara, can you get Mr. Trustle a room temperature water please and it's one of those

How many times I have to say three cubes just bring them bring them both okay, man? Bring bring Mr. Trustle both fuck look. I love it. I just want to have you Do it again under my fucking rate. This is a low-budget fucking indie. It's like I'm gonna switch that down for me Fuck you and look no Meredith we got it. I suck here. I want to got the master We have to punch in for your single that was that was a lot for the master Okay, it was too much for the master take we need to do the single now We're gonna punch in on the on the 100 okay, so you got about five minutes to chill and then we're gonna punch in and get the get your coverage

Okay, Johnny you got about five minutes to chill and then we're gonna punch in and get the get your coverage, okay? Johnny Pemberton I Love you man. I love you too. Don't get Russell. I'm so glad you're my friend. I'm so glad Glad you can do that with your voice. Yeah, I think weird Suck Suck it. I remember before you could do that. I remember before you could do that. And I remember we were on acid, some fucking ranch doing nitrous. And you said you could see the matrix.

And then after that, that's when you gained that ability to do that with your voice. I remember that. When I heard you say that, I'm like, that's a cool, I know what you mean, I'm high too, man. But then when you demonstrated to us that you could do that shit, we were all like, whoa, like you saw the matrix.

I can see the shape of ice, the crystals of ice is what it was. And then, but what does it feel like when you do, I would, if I could do that as a voice actor, like that would be a real, real valuable tool in my voice vocal toolbox, which by the way, can you wanna see what's in my vocal toolbox? Shoot me. I could do this oh I can do this I can do this I can do it like this

yeah but you're trained after so are you not like you I'm not that trained. It took me a long time to do this. Oh. Oh. Well, actually, I can't do it and my voice hurts. You gotta train your vocal cords. I can't do it. I can't do that, Mr. Trussel. Mr. Trussel. I can't do that.

It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. down here. What is this? That's crazy that you can do that.

Yeah. How the fuck do you do that? You're like the dude in police academy. You can't refrit. Hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, Michael Keegan. Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Let me try.

I want you to try. Okay, go for it. Michael Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan Keegan That's pretty good actually. Pretty good. Yeah. I can't. Michael Keaton. Ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-ke-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t- I'm so happy dude, I got all this work done. You like that? I think you look really good. You look about 10 years younger, I would say. Yeah, I got the um, bags removed. Damn.

Is that fucking wild? Yeah, I'm gonna get that two in about four years. I have it scheduled out and took, going to Turkey to get it done. Best place to get a fucking taken out there, best place. It wasn't even normal shit like usually when people have right bags under their eyes. It's filled with like you know like people who don't I'm I don't amann so I don't cry yeah and your tears get backed up and then that's what the bags But um these bags there were spiders spiders. Yeah, yeah I was like I feel like there's spiders under my eyes and he's like, you know, you're just like holding back tears. Oh Is that why they say spiders are the tears of God? Yeah, God it makes so much sense. Yeah, because it's like either tears or spiders if you have bags under your eyes

But that's what people hate spiders so much because there's they're scared of being sad. Well, that's a really weird thing, is that when they remove the spiders, the spiders start to cry. Johnny, where are you going on the road again? I thought you told me you got some dates. I got some dates. I'm gonna be in San Diego at the, I'm gonna get this rikes, because it's the,

how do I escape this window? God damn it. Now it's bigger. Okay, hold on a second. I can get out here. You can get out. How can I? this window god damn it now it's bigger okay hold on a second I can get out here Computer I'm gonna be in San Diego at the mic drop November Let me just make sure this is right. I'll be in San Diego Not now what the fuck is this god damn hold on a second. I can find here this I'll be in San Diego

The gold room in them at'll be in San Diego, the gold room in them, might drop in San Diego on Saturday December 2nd, okay? Saturday December 2nd. Saturday December 2nd at the gold room in San Diego, and I'll probably be with you a couple of times before that. But you gotta let me know about Salt Lake City. I will, I think I'm probably in for that, for sure. You gotta let me know, but I'll let you know. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. I'll let me know about Salt Lake City. I will, I think I'm probably in for that, for sure. Well, you gotta let me know,

but I'll let you know. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. Okay, great. And I think it's weird that people get a discount on tickets if they stand with a moss or whatever the fuck you're doing for that show.

But, all right. You know what, there's a discount if you support either side, you get the same discount. It just lets me know where to seat you. Johnny B! I love you. I love you. Nice to be in on this show.

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