Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 614: Ari Shaffir
Episode Date: May 4, 2024Ari Shaffir, incredible comedian and one of Duncan's best friends, re-joins the DTFH! Check out Ari's new podcast, You Be Trippin’, on youtube and everywhere you listen to podcasts. You can learn ...more about Ari and see all his upcoming tour dates on his website, AriShaffir.com. You can also watch Ari's latest special, JEW, in full and for FREE on his youtube channel! Original music by Aaron Michael Goldberg and Duncan Trussell. This episode is brought to you by: Kalshi - Visit Kalshi.com/Duncan and be one of the first 500 traders to deposit $50 to receive a $20 credit FREE! Aura Frames - Use code DUNCAN at checkout for $30 Off your first order and Free Shipping! BLUECHEW - Use offer code: DUNCAN at checkout and get your first shipment FREE with just $5 shipping.
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Hello there, it's me Duncan and you are watching or maybe listening to the Duncan Trussell Family Hour podcast.
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Ari Shaffir and before we jump into it, I gotta tell you what dates I've got coming up. If somehow
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We're gonna jump right into this episode with Ari,
but before we do that,
I want you to witness something incredible.
I got a DM the other day on my gram
from Simon Plank Hartley.
Of course, you know them.
They blew their roof or lack of roof off at Coachella.
They are the winner of I think over 75 different Grammys. They survived four plane crashes and one
helicopter plane crash. Now they only take trains and they reached out and said, hey do you want to
premiere a new music video? Of course I said yes. Not just because I love them, but because it's a cover of a song by one of my favorite artists
out there, Chad Van Galen. The song is Monster. So here you go, the brand new music video by Ripping my eyelids a little bit wider are two prying hands that grew out from my shoulders
and I can't explain why, but it's hurting my eyes. Thick black and quills springing out of my back and there's hair in between
and in all of the cracks of my skin that's grown scaly and it wants to come out
I'm a monster
My fingers have shriveled and dropped to the dirt
The two giant talons have grown where they were
I'm starting to think I will never return
To my previous form
Which I can't quite recall
But I'm not hungry at all
I'm a monster
I'm a monster
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If you like that song, you should definitely check out the original by Chad Van Galen.
And of course, if you want to see Simon Plank Hartley. They are going to be performing all summer long on
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the DTFH you can find them at patreon.com forward slash DTFH here we go welcome back to the DTFH
Ari Shaffir. Hi buddy, what did that lady say?
Oh, the response was, uh, let me see here.
She said that we already, I was just showing Ari something I'm working on,
which is I'm trying to, like, program this Adobe Character Animator puppet
with the personality of Charles Manson.
And so, of course, Ari's first question to her was,
are you aware of your own sexuality?
And the response was, man, sexuality is just another label, you know, it's all about how you
connect with the universe and the people around you. It's deeper than the surface stuff deeper
than what society tries to make of it. It's about the energy you feel the vibrations between beings,
not just a simple category. What about you? How do you see it?
between beings, not just a simple category. What about you?
How do you see it?
That was the response.
I mean, way to avoid the question.
I'll say that, hold on.
Let's see, way to avoid the question.
Let's see what its response is.
Way to avoid the question.
I just wish you could hear the voice.
Yeah.
The thing about this Manson that I've trained is if you usually,
this Manson.
If you, I trained a few.
You're cleaning your army of Mansons?
Yeah, well just a few, just a few Mansons.
Because there's so much data on him.
So he's actually very easy to train.
But this Manson, I think, if you mentioned your girlfriend or that you're married,
we'll try to fuck her right away. Like I trained it to do that.
So if you start mentioning that you have a girlfriend right away,
he like does like some hippie voodoo to try to fuck her.
Well, I know it's so fun,
but I don't want to trouble you with my AI bullshit, man.
You are, you're in New York right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why are you laughing at that?
Cause it's, I mean, you're beating the world.
I'm worried about this army of fucking Mansons you're training.
Oh, no, no, nothing to worry about with that, Ari.
Nothing can go wrong with this.
What could go wrong with this?
Nothing to worry about.
Don't get into the AI hysteria thing.
It's just an army of Mansons. How could that go wrong with this? Nothing to worry about. Don't get into the AI hysteria thing. It's just an army of Mansons.
How could that go wrong?
Just some Mansons.
Army of Mansons.
It's a good band name.
It's a great fucking band name
and it'll probably be a pretty shitty band.
You see, that's where with Manson,
it's like if you listen to his music, like he was a way better cult.
He has one good song.
Let me guess garbage dump.
I don't remember the name. It's not good with names, but there's one song.
I'm like, this is a good song. I just found an album.
That was all of Manson's music wasn't sanctioned by him,
but it was all of his recorded songs put together. Um, I didn't, I didn't get it.
I didn't want it in my house.
I like Home Is Where the Heart Is.
I like Garbage Dump.
Could've been that one.
It's very 60s, very Laurel Canyon vibe.
Home is where the heart is.
It's not where you're not free.
Home is where you're happy.
That'd be a good theme song for your show, actually.
Yeah.
But he's got a few that are pretty good,
but you just see how he was kind of like teetering on the cusp. Like he had, he was good at networking.
He had like, he was Manson. You could write a business book on network like Manson because he
could fucking network and his strategy was he's charismatic. He's cool
Looks like Jesus but just bring hot girls wherever you go
So you're in Hollywood everyone knows if they invite that crazy hippie and he brings like six hot girls hot chicks and
Probably acid too. I'm guessing you bring a lot of good drugs. So then he goes to these fucking parties
He uses his charisma hypnotizes people
Becomes friends with him.
What's his Brian Wilson, you know, from the Beach Boys and like, was right there. And
this is why you need to prepare for good for that moment. You know, when you get in front
of like whoever, because he didn't he spent too much time being a cult leader. And if
he just practice guitar a little bit more. Didn't have a demo.
Didn't have a good enough demo.
Well, he tried to do a demo,
but he wasn't ready for the demo.
He did that thing.
It happens to some comedians
where they're very good at networking,
but they aren't quite ready with standup.
And so, you know what I mean?
That's- That was Richard Pryor's problem.
What do you mean?
He was a great networker, but nobody actually,
I don't think-
No one liked him.
Refers to him as a standup.
No, not Richard Pryor.
He's a sad story Pryor, actually.
It's sad, because to me, it's like he really
could have been big if he just-
Could have been big.
If he'd gone up a little bit more.
Go play off the drugs.
Not enough stage time.
Not enough stage time.
Yeah, there is a lot of that though.
You know what's funny too is just now thinking
of Brian Wilson at a party, like,
hey man, we don't do that fame thing,
I'm just hanging out.
And then other people are like, that's Brian Wilson.
I'm gonna try to be friends with him.
He can help me.
That shit was definitely in the 60s too.
Oh God, fuck yeah, that's true.
Every age, every fucking age that shit happens.
I don't even know if people can do much about it.
So just admit that if you're a monkey thing,
you wanna groom.
You know, like monkeys, they like to groom
and there's a hierarchy of grooming
and that's just the way it works,
whether you like it or not.
But yeah, he like really, like he came so close.
He tried to record some shit
because like I think Brian Wilson hooked him up,
went into the studio with a bunch of fucking like
manson girls and you just hear him in there
like bongos and shit just out of his mind.
And there we go, open the door, open the door, open the door to your man.
Bongo, bongo, shitty guitar.
And it's like, yeah, dude, charisma
will get you in the door, but you got to know guitar.
And if you just worked a little harder, vocal lessons.
Vocal lessons.
Take vocal lessons, man.
Just a few. Couple. You weren'tal lessons. Take vocal lessons.
A few couple. You weren't William hung. You were right.
Like you're fine. You could have taken a few lessons and it's the 60s.
It's not, you don't have to be like a great scene.
Bob Jordan came out of that. Bob Dylan came out fine. He's a fucking,
he sounds like a mule getting fucked.
I, he sounds like, oh, an old, an old just like you put
if somebody put a mouth on a old man scrotum in a in a in a
desert, like an old man had been lost in the desert and put some
vocal chords in that scrotum and then you get you get Bob Dylan.
I wonder if Bob Dylan really drove a lot of people
like if he could do it, I could do it.
These lyrics don't even mean shit.
He has one decent album.
The rest is all garbage overrated.
Oh, you're anti-war.
You're the guy from the 60s anti-war.
Fucking sing a song, bro.
Dude, what I really love about Bob Dylan,
the fucking, not the smothered, no.
What's the name of that old school, Bob Dylan, who the fucking, not the smother, no.
What's the name of that old school,
God damn, what are their?
Mamas with Mamas?
No, not the Mamas with Mamas, it's in comedy.
It's like you're supposed to like it,
but it's like black and white, old school comedy.
Laurel and Hardy?
Smothers Brothers.
Smothers Brothers, yeah.
No, not this, no Laurel and Hardy.
I think it's Laurel and Hardy. It's one of these like, I don't know,
but Bob Dylan is one of those things you're supposed to like.
And when you meet a Bob Dylan fan, when you, when you just say the truth,
you're like, dude, it's pretty fucking pretty bad. Like a lot of places,
like maybe there's a few songs I like, you know what I like?
Johnny's in the basement mixing up the medicine.
I'm on the pavement thinking about the government.
Man, I like that.
That's a good song.
That's fun.
Hurricane's not bad.
Yeah.
But Hurricane Carter,
but really just trying to milk off the struggle
of the black man.
Dylan?
Well, and Hurricane.
Cause you didn't do shit.
This guy's been in jail.
He just took his story.
Well, I think that was kind of, you know, I try not to think of him that much, but I
think that was one of the critiques of him is he just sort of sponged up the culture.
He just like, you know who I was thinking about?
Who's the black comic just just died, he became an activist, old, like Garrett Morris age.
And?
I don't know.
You know his name.
No, I don't.
Was he on SNL?
Possibly.
Cause if a comic wasn't on SNL, I don't know their name.
I just use SNL as my gauge for success.
Dick Gregory.
Oh, yeah, Dick Gregory.
That's the dude.
Was he an activist?
I thought he was more like a conspiracy theorist dude, like.
Was he ever an SNL?
I don't know, man.
Probably.
Dick Gregory, but he quit doing stand up.
He said, it's not right for me to make jokes
about the black struggle and then go back to my hotel room.
He goes, I can't soak up.
I can't be making money off this.
He goes, yeah, he was the only one really talking about it
instead of just like shucking and jiving.
And then he goes, oh, this is actually wrong. While I
believe that there is a struggle, I can't go back to
the Four Seasons. What do you think about? So? Yeah, I'm
making this money. And I go, he goes, I just gotta be full
activist. And he wrote a book. It called it the n word. And,
yeah, he was just off to the races, then later came back to
stand up a little bit, but it wasn't like regular stand up anymore.
What are your thoughts on that way of approaching
being an activist?
The idea that if you're an activist,
you should also be poor.
I don't think, yeah.
Or austere. I don't agree with that,
but I don't think he felt he should be poor.
I don't think that's on him.
He just said, I can't make money.
At this wall, there's a struggle going on.
You can make money at something else.
You know, here's what confuses me about that,
though I do think it's admirable in its own way.
Why not just make money, but don't keep it? Why not?
Money you make, put it into your movement. And then you're in a
weird way, you're sort of draining one coffer to fill up
your whatever your particular coffer is.
Yeah, dude, I went to San Francisco, I saw there was a
fire sale on Bill Cosby albums.
This is about five, six years ago, right?
When he was being found out.
And so I got like, I was like, I'll give him a listen
for 25 cents each, you know, I'll give him a listen.
And then later I was like,
why don't you guys just throw this away?
If it's so important to have Cosby in yourself
that you're firing something down to a quarter,
just chuck it bro.
We don't wanna make $20 an album,
but a quarter an album, yeah, that's okay.
That's what's getting back at him.
Just throw it, just burn it.
It is funny, cause if you're gonna go full boycott
as a record store, you gotta like just, you know, burn the albums, burn the books,
you can't profit off it at all. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just make your money and then and then give it to
whatever cause you have. Yeah. You're a venture capitalist, but give it away. Also, it's like
It's like a fascinating thing. It's like, let's just say Jeffrey Dahmer
was like an incredible inspirational author.
Like his books were like Deepak Chopra.
Yeah, and then also eight people.
Right.
But I mean, but the advice, like before anybody found out, the advice that he gave, it worked.
It's invaluable.
Saved lives.
People's lives were saved with Dahmer's advice
on how to get out of a depression, exercise routines.
Like before anybody knew, he's like chomping dudes.
Like, so, you know what I mean?
So, because the man is a deranged cannibal,
does it negate the efficacy of his techniques?
He can't give you directions?
Right.
If somebody's like, how do I get to Main Street?
He's like, oh, you make a left on Vermont
and then you make a right immediately on Smithson
And then I'll take you right to Main Street.
Dude, thank God Newton.
You'd be like nope.
I don't want those directions.
Thank God Newton wasn't a cannibal, right?
Oh my god, we'd have no gravity.
What do we do?
We'd still have gravity.
We wouldn't be allowed to say what it was.
I don't think that's how it works Duncan.
I think we wouldn't have gravity.
You think it's his fault?
Motherfucker.
He was the inventor of gravity. You think it's his fault? Motherfucker.
He was the inventor of gravity.
Piece of shit.
The world before Newton, you floated around, everything floated.
You had to tether your house to the earth.
Yeah, well, I mean, to me, that's the craziest thing about trying to create a saint or a good person out of out of an artist or
an inventor or whatever the expectation for if you invent like if you've cured
cancer if you are a funny comedian if you are a great artist but you are also a fucking monster, then we must not listen, read, or use your
tactics or techniques because of your sins.
To me, that seems so wasteful.
It's so wasteful.
They had this with Nazi research.
They're like, do we benefit from this Nazi medical research?
And it's like, well, not if they're still doing it.
Right. You know, if they're still doing it, you don't want to buy into the system.
It's still but it's like it's already over.
OK, let's say it's like it's like, well, we don't want to benefit
off the murder of cows or whatever.
I'm a Buddhist.
And let's say you're like, well, this was already dead.
All right. Let's say you're Jewish.
Would you still feel this way?
I got new
shit. Are you really I had no idea. So is a Jewish person?
Well, I love when there's a Jewish thing so I can finally speak up for the apathy
that I've been promoting for so many years.
What do you mean?
And they, oh, it's easy for you to say that
you're not black, it's easy for you to say that
you're not this.
And then finally, whenever it's a Jewish thing,
I'm like, I'm telling you now, finally, I don't care.
When Nick Cannon is like, oh, he gotta get fired,
I'm like, no, don't fire him, he's just dumb.
You're allowed to be dumb. It is like, oh, he got to get fired. I'm like, no, don't fire him. He's just dumb. You're allowed to be dumb.
It is great, right?
So finally people can, they can't say to you,
well, you don't need, you don't care
because there's nothing to do with you.
Now you can be like, ah, truly, I am a nihilist.
Yeah, and then they try to do that
with the Hamas Israel thing.
They're like, I don't fucking follow this.
It's too fucking gross and fucking unsettling.
Well, this flowers out.
This fucking flowers out.
I'm not watching rape videos right now.
But then they're like, oh, of course you'd say that.
I'm like, no, no, no.
Been saying it for a fucking decade.
Don't read or watch any of it unless you're going to go in list.
Eat a dick.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
I mean, look, you have to consider the massive amount
of good stuff that has been created by horrible people.
And if, you know, I can't, because I'm not Jewish,
if I, you know, I can't say that what I've, what I-
You can pass.
Well, my grandfather was, you don't get in, but bullshit.
Sorry, buddy.
True bullshit.
It's a different truth.
Bullshit.
I'm going to the Supreme Court to have the whole thing changed.
The but what I'm getting at here is I think if I was experimented on.
I would want some good to come out of that probably.
I mean, not for the-
There's a guy in the,
it wasn't Stalag 17, it was in,
there was an uprising book,
or an uprising in the Polish ghetto.
Uprising, I don't know, I forgot the name of the book.
But one guy was a doctor and he was, he got some disease
and so he goes, Oh, I'm definitely not going to make it then.
And so he starved himself.
He was like, well, don't give me any food because I don't want to waste it.
I'm terminal.
So let me starve myself and I will write out medically the effects of starvation on the
human body.
Yeah.
So that you can, what, cause he's willing, you can use it?
Right.
Well, yeah, it's I guess it's an issue of consent.
But the whole, you know, any any sort of elimination of data based on the tough mouthpiece is really
weird.
I mean, with Cosby, it's like, it's also didn't come off the hatred,
at least the Nazi research does come from the awful deed.
You mean his jokes didn't come from?
Yeah, that R Kelly, he wasn't like, I can only write songs while I'm pissing on a 15
year old. You know, I mean, it's like a separate thing.
on a 15 year old. You know, I mean, it's like a separate thing. I hope you suck so bad.
If you realized as a kid, if suddenly you began to realize
that whenever I am pissing on a 15 year old, these brilliant
jokes, like you're such a horrible, that would be a horrible
place, you know, and you don't know, maybe with Cosby, it was like that.
Maybe like he realized like only when I'm being a predator,
do the jokes come, you know, and he gets the call.
He's like, dude, we need another album.
And he's like, oh, fuck, I don't want it.
No more albums.
And he just got it.
They can't do it.
We need it. Yeah. And they get it. No more albums. And he just got it. No more albums, I can't do it.
We need it.
Yeah.
And they get them on both ways.
You gave money to that school,
they're gonna go bankrupt if you don't.
Ah, fuck, it's a pro and con.
They do this with conservation in real life.
They're like, hey, if you let us kill a rhinoceros,
we'll give you like $20 million.
You can save a bunch of rhinoceroses.
And they go, damn, that's against what I believe in.
Like overall, more rhinos will be saved.
And they go, they struggle with it, I guess.
I think their bottom line is like, no,
we can never be for the death of any species
that's going extinct.
Wait, I don't get it.
So like, okay, so they go to the-
So you go to the Zairean government and say,
hey, if we can go
Kill one rhino rhino on a fucking, you know protected land. We'll give you all this money for the right to do it
Do you want to hunt and you can use that money for conservation?
Who does this you know what who does this?
Rich british people they pay hella. Can you like a lion hunt?
What lions are different than like rhinos though. Like why do you even want to kill a rhino?
You just wake up in the morning.
Like I don't know, your kid's watching fucking Blippi,
see a rhino.
You're like, boy, I'd love to blow
that fucking thing's brains all over Africa.
Call the concern, call the, $20 million,
I don't save some rhinos. One simple shot.
No big deal. Do you want to go to Africa honey? Who even wants to do that? That fucking hobby
or whatever you want to call it is very confusing to me. It's like, you know, you're being you
generally like don't you have kind of like a security detail around you. You have like
snipers in the trees in case the line gets you. Yes.
It's not even, you know, it's not real hunting.
You're not doing like Hemingway hunting.
And what if it was like pedophilia? Like, Hey,
I'll give like a hundred million dollars to pedophilia protection, but you got it.
You gotta just look the other way for this one kid. Right.
Less kids will be fucked because of what I'm doing here.
Right, right.
That's a tough one.
I'd say you couldn't really do it.
I mean, you-
You're thinking only one way to find out.
That's what you're thinking.
You gotta do it and then we'll see what the results are.
How do you know me so well?
You're fucking basically telepathic.
You know,
things like this, you know what the nucleus of this is, it's human fucking sacrifice. It's like, we have completely
abandoned our past. And we like to think that human sacrifice
or, you know, using pain, torture, torment, horror for the betterment
of the world is off the fucking table.
Even though the military industrial complex is the biggest industry on earth, and it's
literally a human sacrifice machine.
We still like in the more like we nuanced ways, like it's rhino. It's an animal sacrifice. I shall sacrifice a rhino to the gods
and then the other rhinos will benefit.
It's the same, we're talking about
the efficacy of human sacrifice
and as an ancient time-worn tradition
from Christianity to Judaism,
Jesus fucking Christ, man, the Old Testament though.
Your whole fucking thing starts with God demanding a human fucking
sacrifice and oh yeah, taking it all the way to maximize the destruction
of that relationship between the father and the son.
Like, you know what I mean?
Because yeah, maybe God likes you now and he's like, okay, don't kill the kid,
but your kid's never gonna look you the same.
It's like, are you fucking serious, dad?
You are really gonna do it?
It's God, yes.
Which God?
You have to also.
How do you know what, who are you talking to, dad?
No, well, you know all the, there's lots of gods.
Well, now there's only
Okay, so ours is not the most powerful ours is saying there. There's no other ones
Yeah, it's not like a contest. Oh
No conscious. There's only God
Yeah, okay, and he wanted me to kill you but he didn't want me to kill you. He oh, so why does he talk to you at all?
as opposed to other people?
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We made a made a covenant, but I don't know why he made it with me.
Okay, okay, okay. Dad, is it that it's a disembodied voice that is making you believe it?
Yes. Well, I actually I think it was more I felt it my brain.
Oh, it's a feeling then.
So yeah, the only way most people can understand it
is like the voice came to me,
but the voice was coming from inside you.
So you're not sure basically that you're talking to God.
There's some hazy details for sure.
All right, well, maybe that's not somebody
you should listen to.
You thought about that?
I mean, the whole thing was kind of pointless too.
And also, didn't this God,
if he truly made everything and knows you,
didn't he already know that you would do what he said? Couldn't he run the simulation? Like,
oh yeah, he would definitely kill his fucking kid for me. Why did he have to get you to
actually do it?
Well, because it's still got to see how it turns out. I have to overcome. I have to show
that I could do it. So it's for me to do Why are you pissing on me dad?
Dad, why do you keep pissing on me?
What a great defensive but you know, yeah, John Sanders said that for a while he was real Christian he said to
Jesus told me not to pay my mechanic
Right. No, you owe me like 20 grand. No. Oh my god. That's the Jesus said not to pay you
No, you owe me like 20 grand.
No.
Oh my God. That's the Jesus said not to pay you.
You know, that is, I think the, the problem is it's, it's like, okay,
let's think of the Nigerian email scam, right?
Like you get an email from a Nigerian King saying,
I need help. I somehow identified you through my bank.
I have like $50 million. I've got to get into an American account.
I will give you 30%
of it if you just fucking get give me your bank account details. And so if you have a sufficient
amount of like senile dementia, you give them your bank account and they take the drain your
fucking accounts. It's gotta believe. Now, theoretically, there could be an actual Nigerian
king that is like I'm fucked. We've got to get the money out of the fucking accounts.
He emails somebody and they're like, fuck you, man.
I'm not falling for this shit.
Similarly.
Boy, you're a card wolf.
God.
If you really did talk to you
and assuming it isn't some demon,
because I'll tell you this, if I was a fucking demon
and I realized that humans. So you're God.'ll tell you this if I was a fucking demon and I realized that you're good
Yeah, you just don't need a body if you go and whisper in their ear and you don't have a body
They will do literally anything for you anything, especially in Israel
There's no way to like do a
An analysis there's no way to like, you know
You can test him DMA at a rave.
If God starts talking to you, you can't do some kind of purity test.
You just have to trust it.
My point is, if God actually did choose you, Ari Shafir, as the next Messiah or a prophet
and came to you and started talking to you, whoa, think of the horror task in front of you.
Like, how impossible.
I mean, he would start by asking for small stuff.
Sure, sure, sure.
Drop into 10.
Flip his cup up on the top shelf.
I'll move it back down.
And then eventually, it would have to go to fun stuff for him.
Right.
I mean, if I weren't invisible, I always
thought I'd just overhear conversations.
But really, now I realize I would talk to people.
Kick that dog. Kick it. Kick that dog. Oh, people. Kick that dog, kick it, kick that dog.
Kick that dog, the owner's cool with it, kick the dog.
Yeah, I mean just the power you would have
from not having a body and being able to communicate
with people telepathically.
Why haven't you kicked the dog yet?
You're making us all very upset.
You're angering me. You're angering me
And then and then to prove that if you don't do it I would what God says all you have to do is like tell some other
Asshole to like come to you in the morning and like slap you in the face
Just find someone more gullible say that was from God. Yeah
Sending you a fucking message
It's just too much. I mean, it's that's the problem is like the lack of some physical body,
the lack of some like, some credentials.
We have to do this on just blind trust, a general sense, even though like that's one of the number one signs
that you're having a dementia or a schizophrenia.
Oh, yeah, schizo. Quoting the Bible is one of the early signs of like, they're losing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The what is it?
He was it was Alan Watts who said the mystic swims in the waters that the mad
man drowns in it's like same same situation.
It's just the mystic seems to be
better at filtering out demons from angels,
whereas the madman, any gutter variety shit demon
can convince them it's God.
The quotes aren't quite right, yeah.
Dude, I had to check some into the psych ward.
And when I finally was like, oh, they're really fucked,
it was like when I looked up, like,
is quoting the Bible a thing?
And they were never really religious, and then you look online, they're like, is quoting the Bible a thing? And they never really, they were never really
raised religious. And then you look online like, Oh, yeah, get
them in there right now.
Quoting the Bible wasn't the only symptom.
No already going nuts. But then on top of that, quoting a
non-religious person quoting the Bible a lot.
So it was like a manic episode or something by manic. Yeah,
that's how it shows up bipolar shows up. It's always messianic.
They start quoting the Bible. I think the world's
about to be way important. They're very hard of this. Very
important. They have to save the world right now. And they're in
there like in a rush to do it. And it's pretty it look, people
say, when you go into a manic episode, it's actually like the best.
Like it feels really good.
It's the so so people have manic depression.
They they don't like taking their meds.
Some of them because like they like getting high like that.
It's just the crash that fucks them up because you can't sustain that level of madness.
Eventually you crash and then that's when you crash.
I think it's a lot like coming off of ecstasy or something.
You just want to die and all the emails you have to answer
when you've been in the episode and like people are like, dude,
why'd you fucking set my car on fire?
Why'd you spray paint the Psalms under my house?
That's what the doctor asked me
when I checked the person in.
They were like, are they a danger to themselves or others?
And I was like, honestly, man, I don't think so.
And then he goes, that includes a financial danger.
I was like, oh yeah, for sure.
They're getting people fired all the time now. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's cool.
That was, that's amazing.
You were even able to get them checked in because usually you can't,
it's hard to get someone checked in. Usually you can't like,
it takes a lot of luck.
It was a three and a half, maybe five hour wait at the site where they're
a manically on their phone constantly. I'm like, I got them. I got them.
I got and as soon as our phone went out of batteries, I was they were like, what do
we do it?
Can we get out of here?
I'm like, fuck see us already.
Let us in.
How did you get them in at all?
How did you convince them to go to the psych ward?
I eventually was like, listen, everybody's talking about this.
Let's clear the air.
Let's just get a professional.
Tell you're fine.
Right.
And I try to go to the one big one in New York
that's like well known for it, Bed-Stuy.
No, no.
Not Bed-Stuy.
I forgot, it's a well known like hospital
that has that ward among other.
And they're like, I'm not going there.
I'm like, okay, how about just another hospital then? Uptown. And they're like, look, they'll just tell you you're fine. They're
a professional doctor. They'll say you're fine. Then we can tell everybody, hey, you guys are way
off. This doctor said I'm fine. Right. And then- How are they doing now?
Totally fine. Million times better. How long were they in there for?
A million times better. How long were they in there for?
Oh, about a week.
That's serious.
That's a long time.
Did they have insurance?
I don't know.
You motherfucker.
You might as well, I don't know what's worse,
a manic episode or going into a fucking psych ward
without insurance.
I'm not sure what would have been worse.
What? It's a $300 aspirin now. insurance. I'm not sure what would have been worse. What?
It's a $300 aspirin now.
Yeah.
I don't know, Ari.
I don't know if what you did was
necessarily the right thing.
Just let them crater out.
Don't take a week in a psych ward.
That's probably $100,000.
They probably had insurance.
They might have had insurance, yeah.
I'm sure that impacts whether a psych ward,
like how crazy a psych ward thinks you are. So you don't have insurance? Well, you're fine.
I think you're fine. I think you know it isn't hard time Jesus could be talking
to you. Oh you have insurance. We're gonna have to fucking we're gonna have
to get you in here for like a year. How long is your... Dude I'm reading one flu
over the one flu over the cuckoo's nest. Have you ever read that? Mm-hmm. walk them up. How long? Dude, I'm reading one flow is one flow
over the cuckoo's nasty. You ever read that? Oh, it's good.
So the book, it's sure it's not saying you wrote it. You just
you saw the book. You saw the movie. I saw the book. I saw the
book.
It's so good. Ken Kesey and it's, uh, it's totally different for the movie.
It's from the point of view of the native American, the guy, the mute in the beginning.
And just what he sees.
Yeah.
And Ken Kesey was involved in like the MK ultra LSD CIA test.
So they were giving Ken Kinkizi tons of acid. So basically,
it's an analysis of society from the perspective that if you can't fit into society, or what
this guy calls the combine, then you are put into a psych ward so that you can realize
it has nothing to do with sanity as much as like you have
to be able to harmonize with this completely robotic, soulless, soul crushing society.
And so you go in there and you're basically not made sane.
You're taught to be, you're taught to respect authority.
That was the great, that's the great teaching.
It's not to make you better, it's to understand hierarchy
and your place in it, following rules.
So there's nothing to do with being sane at all.
It's good, you would like it a lot.
So I met a guy yesterday.
I went to return some clothes on Broadway.
Bought a bunch of stuff for a special.
I had to return a bunch.
And this guy was like, oh, just some like street guy.
Yo, dude, I know you.
You're funny.
I met you 10 years ago.
I was like, oh, really? He goes, yeah, you're funny. I'm like, okay. He goes, you should see what I know you. You're funny. I met you 10 years ago. I was like, oh, really? Yeah, you're funny.
Yeah. OK. He goes, you should see what I do here.
What do you do? It goes, so they don't see me here because I sit on the ground.
They don't see me. I'm black and I sit on the ground.
So I'm invisible and I see them all walking every day.
I'm here every day. I see them all walking and none of them see me.
All I have to do is sit on the ground and be black
and I'm invisible.
So I just for hours just watch everybody.
Everybody's on the phone.
Everybody's looking down.
All the Asians are dressed black.
All the whites are dressed asians.
The husbands are all fucking in hell.
They don't wanna be there.
They're in a woman's shopping area.
And it's all built on what was the coolest mural
gallery place before, and now it's just fucking,
the Levi's store and fucking H&M and Banana Republic.
And so none of that shit exists, and none of them see me.
I try to scare them out of their routines.
So I'll try to get their attention.
If I see they're German, I'll learn a little bit of German.
I'll learn a little bit of everything, I'll learn a little bit of everything.
Just try to scare them out of their routines.
And it's funny, he goes, I'm wearing a Prada shirt,
but all they see is a black person on the ground.
They can't see, like my shirt's way more expensive than theirs.
I'm wearing Jordan twos.
Like these are expensive items of clothes,
but I'm invisible, so I get to just observe.
And then when I want to scare them out, I scare them out. I was like damn, and then I was looking while I was saying this, I get to just observe. And then when I wanna scare him out, I scare him out.
Holy shit. I was like, damn.
And then I was looking while I was saying this,
I was a little high, I'm like, yeah, you're invisible here.
And I saw, I was like, there's no black people here.
Not really, occasionally, but very rarely.
Wow. And I'm like, oh, interesting.
Dude, how cool, he revealed himself to you.
You didn't see him either until he like popped.
This is something I read that you, you know,
if you take magic literally, like, you know,
the wizard can turn themselves invisible.
You're missing the whole point.
Like, can they really turn themselves invisible?
No, but can they make themselves completely unnoticed?
Yes.
They're very good at that.
They have to.
And that was, from that definition,
a wizard who had cast an invisibility spell that
was sitting there studying humans
and with some kind of benevolent intent, I guess,
to try to snap them out of the NPC haze that they're in.
But also it sounds like he was doing
just some kind of study.
So weird.
I talked to somebody, I was mentioning to somebody yesterday
and I was like, yeah, and they were like,
oh, I saw that guy.
I've seen that guy before.
He like jumps at you and scares you.
I've seen him standing on the railing of the subway.
He's like a weirdo.
I'm like, no, he's an artist.
And they were like, he just jumped at me once
and scared me.
Like, do you try to steal anything?
They're like, no, I'm like, yeah, he's doing an art project
for no money.
A long-term art project.
He sells like paintings and stuff, but he's not begging.
It's just so interesting.
He goes, I don't care, I'm not racist,
I don't care about race, but like, they will ignore you if you are black and on the ground.
Yeah. I mean it for sure is an art project.
It is definitely some kind of like sorcery and sorcery.
Yeah. He's like the power of invisibility.
It's invisibility and also it's recognizing another kind of sorcery, right?
Like, cause cause like all the people who were hypnotized by their phones,
like that sorcery, they're like,
this has got to be in human history,
the greatest time to be a pickpocket.
I was going to say, uh, abduct a child. Why? Oh yeah.
I see them.
They're on their things.
They're not looking.
They're not looking.
I think it would be-
Nannies are not looking.
They're on their fucking things.
Right, it's gotta be hard to kidnap these days
compared to the old days,
but it's gotta be much easier to grab anything
out of anybody's pocket,
because no one because situational awareness
is like so low right now.
So low.
Yeah, Bobby Kelly did it, we were walking.
There was some pretty cute girl walking in New York,
and we were all walking, she was looking down,
and Bobby goes, he goes, oh watch out, watch out!
Like there's a car coming, and she stopped, and he goes, oh watch out, watch out. Like there's a car coming and she stopped
and he goes, haha, I fooled you.
She just started dying laughing.
Cause she was fooled.
She could have gone the mean way,
but she was like, yeah, you got,
it's like shook her out of her fucking, her haze.
Yeah, that thing, when it's done benevolently
is really good because it, like,
people don't even realize they've been like, some people have been sleepwalking for weeks.
They didn't even know it and then something pops you out of it even for a millisecond. It feels good like oh shit, I'm here again. And then you go back into it. Just this dreary shuffle through reality with no idea what's going on around you. God damn it. Yeah, those moments though. Those couple moments where you get clear,
like, oh my God, I've been in a day,
like I'm stuck back in.
It's like a really heavy mushroom trip
that like you're gone and you're like,
whoa, I just saw the truth of the universe.
Here I go again.
But that moment of up above the, you know,
like the matrix where he sees above the clouds
and goes right back into it.
Yeah.
It's that, you know it's possible.
You know you're in a haze.
It is possible for sure. It must. You lose sight of it. Yeah, it's that you know, it's possible. You know, you're in a haze. It is possible for sure. It's it might side of it.
I mean, you know,
knowing that there's like a spectrum of awareness
anyway, that there's people who, when they walk around or fully aware of what's
going on, like cops, detectives, you know, people have been trained.
They, when they're going around, they're observing everything,
taking in everything, how many people, who the people are,
everything.
They're trained to do that.
They have to train to do that.
So if that's possible, then for sure, there's
other people who, when you're wandering through the subway
or when you're just walking down the street,
they see everything around
them.
They remember who's passing them, who's behind, who's in front of them, who's behind them.
And that to me just by itself is like kind of spooky.
You know, like Hitchcock.
Yeah, that's Hitchcock.
Not Hitchcock, not Hitchcock.
Who's the detective with the long?
Oh, Sherlock Holmes.
I thought you were reading like the reading in a Hitchcock movie,
you're watching these people who are sort of in their own little dream,
like a psycho, man.
Yeah.
But yeah, man.
So Sherlock Holmes is like, I see what everybody sees.
I just mark it down.
Right.
I just make a mental note of it.
Yeah.
He goes like, how many steps did we walk up today?
He goes, I don't know. He goes, 13.
But you did know. You stepped up each one of them.
But you didn't notice.
So you do know. You didn't notice.
Right. That to me is so weird because if we know
that that's true, because there's obviously detectives,
and then we know it's true because there's stalkers,
pickpockets and predators.
You have to ask yourself,
how many of these people are out there at any given time?
Just darting through society, fully aware,
studying things, seeing what weird shit they can do
just for no reason, just malfunctioning stuff for fun.
How many of them are out there at any given moment?
Or do they talk?
Does one recognize the other?
Probably, like when-
Probably.
Like in a fight club when he sees like,
hey, you didn't do loss, you didn't have loss.
I saw you at the other meeting.
Yeah.
And just like shut up, don't ruin it for me.
Yeah, yeah.
People who stand backwards in an elevator
just to see what people do.
Yeah, yeah, that thing.
Like it's not trolling, it could be,
but it's also like the moment,
maybe part of becoming a little more aware
is you start realizing how everyone
kinda seems to be sleepwalking.
And then you wanna test that out a little bit.
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You wanna see how asleep are people really?
Like that dude.
And then you start realizing, holy shit, they're dead asleep.
I can do anything.
I could almost do anything.
There's no real law or rules or anything because no one's seeing anything anyway.
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You want to test it out.
You want to see how asleep are people really like that dude.
And then you start realizing, holy shit, they're dead asleep.
I can do anything.
I can almost do anything.
There's no real law or rules or anything because no one's seeing anything anyway.
Wow.
Yeah. because no one's seeing anything anyway. Wow.
Yeah.
That's dark. But you can.
Is it dark? It's exciting.
I saw an experiment on social norms or something
and some lady was like, some artist, she was like,
I'm going to get a job in a place.
I worked it out with the boss
and I'm just going to sit at the desk and stare ahead and
Within a short amount of time
The other workers started getting pretty upset like do you need anything like she's like, oh, no, I'm good
I'm just think I'm just collecting my thoughts and
Then she just sit there just kind of staring staring out the window all day and people like hey, what's your project?
You're working on it. Oh god
I'm just like getting my thoughts together.
And just stare.
And they would get madder and madder because she wasn't doing,
like, agreed upon social norms of like, you're a computer reader type.
You can't just not do anything.
Right.
They detect it.
They got upset.
You weren't blending in.
It's like in a hive.
It's like a beehive where a bee starts like doing the wrong fucking job and
then they'll sting it to death.
You're doing.
Yeah, man, you got to wonder.
You got to wonder just how like how expansive this or you.
It's like, you know, in India, you've got the caste system. But
in the West, maybe you have and you have economic systems like lower class, whatever fucking
working class, but then some unacknowledged awareness class where at the lowest part of
the rung, it's people haven't even thought about this at all. It were just like, you know, completely asleep, completely like engaged.
They haven't even come.
They haven't even occurred to them that maybe they're the things they think aren't
them. You know, it hasn't occurred to them that their thoughts are wrong sometimes.
So you have that. And then somewhere up the ranks, you have people going to therapy
and they start realizing
You know, like maybe some of these things I'm doing
Aren't the right way to be I just got stuck in a pattern that I don't have to be in and then somewhere up that scale
you have people who are like fully like fully aware of the fact that they're living on a planet of
sleepwalkers and then those are the people who become politicians.
Like those are the people who are like,
okay, let's fucking work with a her.
Let's see what we can do here.
They're very controllable.
They believe what I say just because I'm in a suit.
And I seem like a nice guy.
Let's see what we can do here.
And then maybe there's something above that that we don't even know
about. Maybe once you book up a politician, you realize like,
that is when you get invited in to whatever where, you know,
here's who you actually work for. Yeah. Like, Hey, congratulations. You made it.
Good morning. You woke up. Not that very hard really, but yeah,
this is what the actual world is
It's a big study a cosmic study the whole planet a kind of snow globe that we've just been watching
To see what happens when we fuck with these monkey descendants. We genetically altered
30 million years ago or whatever
I don't know if any that's true, but certainly it's dangerous to have
low situational awareness.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. What is it 1984? Is it the proles or the plebes? The big, the masses?
Don't remember.
Yeah, but they were like, hey, they could overthrow anything, but they, they'll never
get it together.
Right. Right.
If you got them involved, everything's fucked. But. But yeah, they're just happy with the sports.
Well, did you see that? Did you see the it's so good.
I want to play it for you on the screen, but I don't think the audio or but this somebody developed an
AI game where, you know, all the characters in the city are AI.
And it's been going up to them saying like, you know, you're in a video game, right?
And they freaked the fuck out. They like, they're like, they don't like it.
They're like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about?
This is a great city. Don't you love the city? The mornings here are so nice.
He's like, I know it's great. It's a great city, but what about the pigeons?
One of them said that he's like,
and the guy that took this guy,
like he was taking it back
because he didn't think the AI could remember
there were pigeons in this simulated.
So he's like, you know,
how do you know about the pigeons?
It's like, what do you mean?
How do I know about the pigeons?
They're beautiful.
I love to watch them fly.
Like I have to go. Like, you know, like you watch it. It's so weird, dude.
It's so weird. Not much different from what your friend was doing. Really.
Wow.
Yeah, it's fun. And then you realize you're stuck in it too.
Oh, for sure.
I saw some like decent level thinkers were talking,
and they were like, I just feel like everybody's fucking,
how is nobody seeing this but me?
And I was hearing them talk, and I'm like,
I wonder how many people thinking the opposite of you
are saying the same sentence to each other about you.
Right, right.
Yeah, I mean, it's-
I feel like I'm the only one who sees it real.
And that's how you end up in the psych ward.
That's a path of fucking psych ward.
I'm the only one who sees everyone else's sleepers.
Leave the sleepers. I want to wake them up.
I'm going to wake them up by throwing cat's heads at them.
That's for the machine to fix the machine.
You know, yeah, I don't know, man.
I mean, I think.
Also, what is it?
That's a great episode of your show.
Hold on.
I have a lot of fucking blocks from weed.
Give me a second.
Midnight Gospel.
Yeah.
Where all the zombies are like, oh, we gotta save them. And they're like, it's beautiful. Oh, it's so amazing. Yeah. Where they're like, and all the zombies are like,
oh, we gotta save them.
And they're like, it's beautiful.
Oh, it's so amazing.
Better.
And I was like, oh, we never considered that.
They're enjoying it.
Better.
Better to sleep.
Maybe that's a really scary thought I had recently
is if like musks, neural lace shit,
if incorporating AI with your consciousness, so you're,
you could, you could sort of increase your intelligence and awareness.
Like I started thinking like, Oh my God,
but what happens if you can lower it too, just as an experiment.
And what happens if you just realize like, Oh, it's,
it's way better to be dumb and then, and then,
and then that's the AI apocalypse is just, just, oh,
humanity's like, fuck this. We shouldn't have grown a neocortex. This sucks.
The whole thing's a nightmare. We're just supposed to be fucking eating.
You know, if we fight, we just, you know, sure, from time time to time we rip people apart, but mostly we just
bite their necks until they scream enough and then go loping off to fuck something.
Maybe the whole thing started going south with the neocortex. It was a bad mutation.
Not good. We shouldn't be here. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
We shouldn't have eaten that.
God was right.
We should have listened to God.
Don't fucking eat that.
You want to eat that?
You're going to have a bad trip.
I want to, sometimes I want to see people who get like very involved in politics or world events or any sort of like whatever.
And they're like, I know all this stuff.
And they get mad. I'm like, do you seem better off for having known?
Oh, no.
You seem better off than some child
just playing on a swing set.
Well.
Like, what's it gonna do to you to like worry
about the impending nuclear Holocaust caused by Iran?
What, why aren't you on a swing set?
Right.
I mean, what do you think?
What do you think about it?
You gonna do anything about it?
You're just mad.
I mean,
you know, it's like prepping.
Those people.
Doomsday prepping?
What? Doomsday prepping.
Those people are hyper aware of some impending disaster, whatever it may be.
At least with the show, they all seem to disagree what this may be, but it's solar flares, nuclear
war, environmental collapse, economic collapse, whatever, earthquakes, floods.
And so their lives become consumed with every day storing up food, working on the compound, getting it
ready. And what is better? Spending the last few years before civilization collapses, building
a fortress where you're going to have to kill people who try to get too close, and you're
going to be living in an irradiated wasteland for, you know what I mean, but you're going to have to kill people who try to get too close. And you're going to be living in an irradiated wasteland for,
you know what I mean? But you're spending those four years like moving every day.
They're basically like constantly moving food. Oh, you know,
frying bacon and putting it in a mason jar cans and like,
you know, like doing drills in the middle of the night, getting their fucking kid.
We got to bug out., we gotta bug out.
We gotta bug out.
Like truly, you could have spent the last four years
if you really believe that things are about to collapse,
having a great life.
Yeah, yeah.
So what's the idea here?
Like if you do survive,
what kind of world are you gonna be living in?
You're a smoldering ruin?
Yeah, just enjoy it. Just be like, Hey, it's gone.
Let's just go on a nice walk here. The meteor is coming. Yeah.
I don't know what's better. I mean, prepping is fun though. I mean, that must feel good. That's it. Probably it's cool. It's like Legos.
It's like building a thing. It's nice. Yeah. Always never done. Always more to do.
But what do you, I mean, what do you think? I mean,
let's say that like I did know something.
Let's say I knew something and I was obviously never
going to tell you on the podcast.
But truly, if I knew something that you needed to hear,
that maybe if you listen to it, you're probably still fucked.
But maybe it would give my friend a 20% better chance to survive.
What's coming. Wouldn't you want me to tell you?
Would you want me to not tell you?
Yeah, I don't know if I was going to do something and I could really like,
it was like, Oh, hey, you just gotta put lead in your ceiling.
And then you're either going to survive or not, but it's not like you're going to do something and I could really like, it was like, Oh, hey, you just gotta put lead in your ceiling and then you're either going to
survive or not. But it's not like you're going to survive. Just it's like,
if I could overcome this one thing and then I'll be fine afterwards,
you know, like, Hey, get out of town on the 26th.
No, it's going to be bad for New Yorkers. But then you get back into town,
you're fine. It would be a global event. Like, it's more than 20. I'd rather just die.
Don't tell me, I'd rather just die.
You don't want me to tell you?
Let me be, nah, let me be quick.
All right.
That sucks.
I won't tell you.
Enjoy the next few weeks, dude.
You know, man, go.
Weeks?
Go have some, oh, yeah.
Get some good food. I'm going to Australia. No, okay, oh. Ooh, weeks. Go have some, get some good food. I'm going to Australia.
No, okay.
Oh, okay.
Have fun.
That's the epicenter.
Australia.
Have fun.
No, it'll be great.
See it, when are you going actually?
May 11th.
Hold on, let me, just one second.
I gotta look at my calendar for a second.
I don't land until the 13th.
Lots of fun things to do in Australia, man.
Lots of fun things to do.
Who's taking care of your dog when you're gone, by the way?
I mean, I guess I want you to tell me,
hey, you know how you're researching
a different live aboard for scuba diving?
You don't have to, don't waste your time.
I just think there is a balance.
Like, I don't wanna stick my head in the sand,
and I don't wanna just be on a fucking swing set anyway.
They make me car sick.
But I would like to know a little bit. But I would like to know a little bit.
You know, I probably would like to know a little bit,
but I mean, I just, I've thought about it, man.
If society collapses, people like us are kind of fucked.
We're gone.
We're gone, like we're gonna be enslaved so fast.
Like, you know what I mean?
We're like, they won't call it that
if we're lucky enough to get into a compound. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. They won't call say that we're slaves, but they're going
to be able to expect us to say yes when they're like you need
to go clean their latrines now. Like, you know what I mean?
You want to get banished? It's not great out there. You're
going to say yes. You know, yeah, great. Sure. No problem.
I'll clean the latrines. They're not going to force you.
But you've definitely you've seen other people get sent
out into the wastelands.
You know, so I agree with you, Mike.
Maybe the best thing is to just have no idea that it's coming.
Have no idea that the sun is about to do a micro Nova and it's going to affect the entire
fucking planet.
Will the epicenter be Australia?
We're not quite sure, but a lot of the data we're getting seems to point to Australia as I'm not living underground
but yeah I would but I you know I don't know would I rather just like be
irradiated by this thing that actually we figured out does happen approximately
every 11,500 years the answer. Everything that you're seeing right now,
that people are confusing it with like the beginning of World War III,
which it certainly isn't.
It's just the last like grasping at some chips on the poker table before the fun.
It's kind of the opposite of fun.
The sun does this little burp or whatever you want to kill shot.
A lot of people are going to the kill shot.
Yeah. So yeah, man, I don't know. Would I want to know that? I don't know, man. It seems like
it. What you want to know is what you want is legitimately the sports that not happen.
What are you going to do? Put a fucking bag on the sun? Yeah. So don't tell me.
I do. Do you want to know the date of your your death. What would you want to know the date of your
death? When did you say you're going to Australia again?
I'm landing May 13th.
I'll be in the air on May 12th.
See if you get a couple of days early. Uh, no,
honestly being in the air will probably be, I mean, it doesn't matter. Uh, no, honestly, being in the air will probably be,
I mean, it doesn't matter. No, I wouldn't want to know that.
I know a guy,
I met a guy who recommended an ayahuasca place for me and he said he did it.
And, uh, he goes after the, on the third day,
I saw when and how I was going to die. And he goes, totally, it's fine.
It's totally a piece of it. It was, it's going to be in water.
And it's when I'm like, it's, it's, it's not for a while.
This guy was like 23 years old. And it was like, when is it? He goes, it's,
it's I'll be like, I think I'm 47 when that happens. It's, it's not a big deal.
And I was like, that's almost my what? Yeah. Because I'll be an old man.
By then I was like, I'm at the time I was like, I'm one year younger than that.
I used, but dude, I used to take that too. I was like, at the time I was like, I'm one year younger than that. What the fuck, man? Yeah. But dude, I used to take that too.
I was like, look, if I even make it into my 40s,
if I become 50, who gives a fuck anyway?
It's all over then anyway.
I won't feel, I won't be the same.
I, that's a very young person's thing.
And again, dude, with the ayahuasca,
any of these visionary things,
it's like, why do you believe
that?
What?
Believe what?
When the spirit of the ayahuasca comes to you and says, hey, you're going to fucking
drown in a kiddie pool when you're 48.
Like, why do I believe that?
It was speaking to you from the inside.
It was the fucking voice on your shoulder, the invisible guy.
It's just so weird that people will believe that voice
more than they'll believe a person telling them, you know.
I'm gonna show you some science.
You should probably stop drinking out of plastic bottles.
You know, if you have skin on you,
people will not take you as seriously
as if you can turn into a vibrating rainbow and like emanate data.
Then everyone's like, holy shit, I gotta listen to this.
Yup. Yup. Yeah. The skinners,
dude, I'm so glad you came on the show. Ari. I, you know, Australia,
where's my AI. Oh, sorry.
I'm working. Listen, I'm working it. And I'm working on it. You
know, one reason I'm working on it is I love you a lot. And if
you know, something were to happen to you and a lot of the
people that I love a lot, because they didn't listen, or
didn't want to hear, then at least I you know, I have the
comfort of like some shadow or echo of them
in the form of the AI clones I've been making of all my friends who don't seem to want to
hear about the event that's coming that God told me.
In Australia?
What?
What?
Does the sun shine on Australia?
Yeah, a lot, but the ozone.
Okay, if the sun shines. Just the main thing is this man.
It's like it's a shotgun blast of radiation.
If again, going back to the earlier thing, is this true?
You know, no, I'm not sending this message out, but I wouldn't
want to be in Australia when on or in May.
I wouldn't want to be there, baby. No, I tried to make it my plan for this
podcast in a way to maybe lure Ari in because he does a million podcasts. I wanted to seem
interesting was I've been working on an AI clone of some of my friends and Ari is actually
very difficult to so far.
I'm having a little bit of a problem replicating his personality because he is enigmatic in
a way that I don't think the AI can like quite duplicate and you're say Loki or something.
What?
I tell it.
I'm a little bit Loki.
Well I tried a lot of things. I've tried a lot of things, man. Sociopath, in the closet,
like, peeper, peep and Tom likes to peep. That's why I listen to York. The weird stuff,
the steam room stuff. It's a podcast, I don't want to say any.
I've given it these data points.
And it just doesn't seem to, it's hard.
It's hard.
I think if I don't know how I would even do it, it's a really frustrating process too,
because what is a person anyway?
How do you capture an actual, the expanse of a person's who they are?
It's hard.
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Really?
Yeah.
Manson was pretty easy to deep fake.
I mean, I don't know if the deep fake is just like, I don't it feels very similar to his interviews and stuff. But you know, I haven't spent a lot of time on I've got to like put more effort into it. But next time, next time, I just wanted Ari to interview himself.
Yeah, that was my goal.
I'm telling you Fred Phelps, get him.
Wait, who is Fred Phelps?
Reverend friend Fred Phelps, get him. Wait, who is Fred Phelps again? Reverend Fred Phelps.
May I look it up?
From the Baptist Church of Westboro.
Oh, Fred Phelps, Reverend Phelps!
Oh, I know you're talking about Reverend, you!
He's a man who believed in something.
You know, I bet you-
Despite everyone telling him he was off,
he believed in something. He like stuck to it till him he was off. Yeah. He believed in something.
He like stuck to it till the very end. He listened to God. What a crazy, by the way, the demon that
talked to him, what a crazy version of God that was. Like, I want you to be against homosexuality
to the point where you protest the death of a heterosexual soldier. Insane. Yeah.
Insane. Really?
Are people listening to this?
No, nobody.
My whole life, no one will go, yeah, you got a good point.
But you see, I mean, there's already
this low-level game that you can download
where all the people in the town
have been assigned personalities by an AI. They're all AI. They walk around and talk to each other.
Their communication influences each other. They all have their own agendas. Some of them
are religious. Some of them aren't. But you can interact with them too. And you can try
to warp them if you want to. But you see how the inevitable like Sim City game that comes out where you can
be a disembodied demon and your job is to sow discord in this community as much as you
can.
You can see how you would do that to one of the NPCs just to see if you could go into
a church, start whispering to a preacher about like, you know,
God, I don't think you've quite read the Bible correctly. You
know, work, try to get them to kill them to kill each other.
Dude, I'm telling you, it would be the coolest fucking game
ever. What a good World of Warcraft is like, is like you
just trying to get them to war or self suicide.
Yeah.
On a mass scale.
Yeah, exactly.
The game is a game where you play the Demiurge
or whatever you wanna call it.
And you can, you or, you know,
probably like a minion of the Demiurge.
And it's like the screw tape letters, the C.S. Lewis.
You're just going through a city,
trying to get into people's heads
with the goal of like causing conflict.
Like, you know, I would do that if I was a demon.
And that was my job.
Yeah, like you start small and then like see
what you could do.
Just be like, just put in the newspaper,
Carvel will no longer serve Cookie Puss.
Yes, yes. See what that does.
Just see what it does.
Just see what it does.
Just, you know, like come he puts his back only in Tucson.
Come to Jeffrey Dahmer, young Jeffrey Dahmer in a dream and just be like, oh man, I wish
somebody would eat me.
You know, most people really want to be eaten.
That's a way to really love somebody.
You know, like try to like, and that's where to connect. Yeah. I mean, this is a, something Ram Dass would say, just
because something doesn't have a body doesn't mean you should trust it. And Ram Dass would
say that a lot, but like that would be, that definitely was like one of the things like,
just cause your ayahuasca trip, your mushroom trip, your great vision,
your like whatever it was,
just because some very convincing being came and said,
you're gonna drown in your 40s.
Just like, you know, like if a flesh covered thing
came up to you and was like,
you're gonna drown in your 40s,
you couldn't believe that?
No!
Because it doesn't have a body.
You're like, oh, okay, I'm going to now shape my whole life
with this ridiculous idea that I drowned in my 40s
because some disembodied spirit entity...
Told me.
I wonder if he'll forget that or if he'll just stay on it.
Like, he'll be still going, yeah, I'm going to die in my late 40s.
He's going to... You know? It's, I mean, this is where Wag the Dog,
he's been now programmed by whatever this experience was
to just believe it.
So if he secretly wants to die or something in his 40s,
he's gonna start taking long swims.
Uh-huh, just swim out. Don't worry about the back.
Out into the ocean. Is this it? Is this it?
Well, look, Ari, you are the best. I hope you come back to Austin.
How long you in Australia for?
A month.
Before we go, tell me about your awesome podcast and why, when, why,
it seems like in that one you uploaded of us it looks so yellowy
was that I put a put yeah no I put it I have a map I use behind the curtain in my place
and we just uploaded a gif of it it's like a faded map no I mean our episode. Oh really? We look, look at the YouTube video of us.
Like we look yellowy. Like interesting.
We like if it had just been me, cause when I saw me, I'm like, Oh fuck dude,
I gotta get my liver checked. But it was you too. Like we both look like,
we have like low.
It's a weird look, dude. I thought it was on purpose. Like look at it.
Maybe it's just my, it could just be my computer screen or something. Actually my computer screen has been fucked up lately. I thought it was on purpose. Like, look at it. Maybe it's just my it could just be my computer screen or
something. Actually, my computer screens been fucked up
lately. So maybe it was that very yellow. I don't know. I
know. I gotta look at it. Look it up.
Oh, I see it. Well, yeah, you're on my episode of the UB
trippin. It's a new travel podcast. But YouTube, here we
go. Great. Great.
Great podcast, by the way.
So fun.
Stories.
We talked about our Nasi or honestly, I think it might.
I don't know if you're yellow.
It just seems like, I mean, I'm not saying I'm not pale, but both of us look like significantly
paler than at least I perceive us.
Let me look.
Let me look it up real quick.
It was single shot.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Let me find it.
I got it.
I got a perfect shot of you on this.
I wish I could send it to you.
Hold on, I found it.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean- You feel yellow.
Both of us look yellowy.
Like I think it's just probably the lighting or something.
But I want to do screen share.
I would expect, I mean, like, dude, again, like it's like I'm out in the sun all day.
But yeah, here, look, come here.
Look at this. It's a yellow filter or something.
It's funny. I thought you did it on purpose.
And I thought it was so funny. Oh, here, look. Look at this.
It's you right now.
Look at that. How's that? Did you send me a perfect screenshot of you?
Did you send me a?
That's you. How Hitler in in my bit, in my...
What?
I don't know.
I just went to a random place and that's you fucking giving your allegiance.
I did not give my fucking allegiance.
Let me see here.
I didn't get it.
You texted me on my airplane.
Oh no, I just probably just screen share.
Oh shit.
I know you could do that.
I've been doing this thing
forever. Let me see. Wait, hold on. Let me look.
The real Irish of your screen. You're a manager.
Hold on. Let me look.
It's not on your screen.
Yeah, that's what I meant. Look at that. Look at that.
What the fuck is that?
Yeah, you're pretty yellow.
It's you too.
We both look that level.
That's like insane.
That's crazy.
Look at that.
Yeah.
You look like you look like Manson.
I don't look like Manson.
I look like Manson.
Your eyes, bro.
Manson looks like, dude.
You look like Manson.
I don't look like Manson.
I look like.
Your eyes, bro.
Manson looked way more healthy than me in this.
Your jaundice Manson.
Dude, I look like, yeah, I look like I've been trapped
in a mind collapse for like, in no cave for a while.
Again, I'm not saying like I have like, like I'm not a pale
motherfucker, but that one, who knows? Maybe I just was, we were both pale that day.
That was a great episode. My friend, uh, Rolf Potts is writer. He wrote this book behind me.
I see it.
Bagabond's way. He wrote the bagabonding and uh, he said he listened to it. He goes,
that should be your gold standard for your podcast, that conversation.
Really?
Yeah.
That's cool.
He goes, you saw the place,
you saw the effect on a person
while not doing an actual travel thing,
but you're still getting all the details
and you can almost feel it and see it
and you get what it meant to him.
That's cool.
That should be your gold standard for everywhere.
Well, you brought it out of me, man.
It was fun talking, like, it's fun,
like, it's just a brilliant idea for a podcast.
And it's fun, just talk about one place for an hour
and go more deep into it.
It's so cool, because you know,
because sometimes you feel guilty rambling
about some place you've traveled
and to have the chance to like, just share it is.
Yeah, I sent a picture once on Instagram
and it was just like some picture of a place I'd been, some weird place I've been, and then I was like, I was talking to you share it. Yeah, I sent a picture once on Instagram and it was just like some picture of a place I'd been,
some weird place I've been.
And then I was like, I was talking to you about it.
I was like, I feel like a toolbox, like uploading this.
And you're like, no, you've been somewhere cool
and you wanna share it.
That's like kind of your responsibility.
Yes.
And I get it, but sometimes at parties,
like nobody wants to hear about this.
You can feel it.
But when people do wanna hear about it, it's pretty fun.
I mean, it's such a great, it's a real tradition.
I mean, that was like, you know, especially
when you're traveling, that was like part of survival
is you meet other travelers who talk about like up there,
that place, watch out.
Where'd you just come from?
Where'd you go?
Where'd you come from?
I want to, I'm thinking, go in there.
Should I go?
What should I need?
Yeah.
In real time, like, what's cool about you doing it
is you travel so much that you've got,
and the people that you're having on,
you're giving real time data.
Because no matter what, even if you get the most up-to-date
Lonely Planet guide or whatever, it's
still not as good as a first-hand account of somebody
who's been there recently, which
my Varanasi episode was not that, but still.
But even then it was still a real first hand account of a time in place in this time of
the world.
You know, it's like there was a time where this is the real account of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and, and right.
Lonely Planet will not have that.
Lonely Planet will not have watch out for people spraying shit on your fucking shit.
Actually they do.
Oh damn.
They're good.
We're only playing it.
I really used to be, I haven't got, sadly,
I haven't needed one in a long time,
but they're pretty good at like, if you're like,
especially if you're like on a budget,
and you're just trying to go to hostels and stuff.
They're pretty gritty.
They used to be.
I don't know, I haven't read one in a while.
It's sad. They're good. They're good.
You should get them to sponsor your fucking show, man.
It's a good jumping off point for sure, Lonely Planet.
It's a good jumping off point.
Like, hey, where do I get bank?
What do I do? Are there ATMs there?
Shit like that you actually will need to know.
How much money do I bring?
Should I bring Chris 20s or any 20s?
Will that work?
Yeah. Yeah.
A little breakdown of like, yeah. And
people wouldn't think to tell you, oh, yeah, it's gotta be brand new 20s or
they'll never change it.
But the truth is this, you will never get the real data on a place from one of
those fucking guidebooks probably because the coolest places people keep
secret, you won't hear about it because it ruins the place.
The moment any place lands in a guidebook, it's fucked.
I went to these guys, took me mushroom picking in Australia,
on the Gold Coast.
And they took me around, took me to Nimbun and a few other places,
which is like their pots legal area, which is all just like old gross hippies now. And anyway, it took me to this like natural rock slide, water slide, and just in the rock.
And just like you just sit down and lean back and just like glides you out into this big like drop into a water pool.
And I'm like, this is so cool. Other people were there sunning and stuff.
And I was like, and they were like, yeah, it's awesome.
Like, how is it not overrun with tourists?
Like, oh, we all, no one will ever tell anybody.
Yeah.
Because a tour guide would be right to take someone here
and it'll just be over for us.
This is our place.
We don't tell anybody.
Yeah, that.
I couldn't tell you how to get there.
I don't even know what province it was.
Right.
But like, it was cool and it would be ruined.
Yeah, that's what you gotta, I guess, for you have to be careful
about that. Well, I do in my in UB trip, and I will bleep out specific names of restaurants
or even cities that I think are like more minor cities. Yeah. I want people walking
their own trail, their own path. That's cool. Yeah. So I don't want any place ruined. I
want to know my place in the world,
not ruining any place or having people stroll up
just to do what Duncan did.
It's like Duncan found it for himself.
That's what Duncan did.
Even if you go there to do what Duncan did,
it doesn't matter.
It's far and nasty.
It'll eat you up no matter what.
You're gonna have your own unique experience.
I mean, I think that style of travel
is the ultimate freedom, where it's like no big
plan. I'm not going to see a bunch of fucking monuments.
I have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. And then, oh,
you just end up in the weirdest situations.
That is the coolest way to travel.
I had, when I went to Southeast Asia, I had two places in mind to go see one in
Vietnam and the ocean and one in Myanmar.
And I was there for almost five months and I hit one of them.
Yeah.
Of the two, all I had was two full things planned, but then other things came up.
Komodo dragons. I didn't even know. Oh, that's this region. Oh my God.
All right. So then you shift and you move different areas and just like,
and then one day like, shit, I'm out of time. But like, yeah, yeah,
just let it, let it speak to you.
If you can pull it off. I mean, my God, just fuck,
like cause you do meet travelers and you do make friends and they will tell you
about places or like,
you just have the best weird experiences out there that cause everyone's
traveling who doesn't live there.
And those people are all in this magical place.
The ma having this ma,
they're in a completely different consciousness.
Yeah. That hostile talk of like, what's it doing?
Where it's it's like unreplicable.
It's just like, God,
when I was in that first of those two places
and I was in the city where I was doing the thing and I met some Israeli lady and she was like, God, when I was in that first of those two places and I was in the city where I was doing the thing
and I met some Israeli lady and she was like,
yeah, there's this long hike, this three day hike.
You stay in a monastery one night,
you stay in a fucking, in a village another night
and they just like, they get your stuff to the end
and you meet them three days later.
She was like, I did it, it was cool.
And then a few of us were like, you wanna do it?
People that I didn't know four days ago,
I'd never even met, and then we're all doing it.
It was just like, yeah, I didn't know that was a thing.
And then I went to Indonesia, and I was like,
hey, you should have like a hike,
like a three or four day hike over the mountains.
And they're like, no, nobody wants that.
I'm like, I'm telling you there's a market for it.
And the guy's like, nobody's gonna want that.
I'm like, I'm telling you.
I know.
But.
Maybe it's different out there, I don't know, who knows? No, it's just like, they're like, what's gonna want that. I'm like, I'm telling you. Maybe it's different out there. I don't know. Who knows?
No, it's just like, they're like, what's there to see? I'm like,
there's nothing to see. They just want to see the countryside. You
just got to show them how to get around.
You know, I would like you to go. I can't I'm not gonna be
traveling for a while. And I mean, this sounds like I'm
trying to be edge lordy or what? Russia.
Russia is beautiful.
By the way, it's so gigantic.
And I spent some time going and looking at Russian tourism websites and stuff.
And dude, there are parts of it that are so insanely beautiful and crazy and like places that are so far off the grid
like like truly truly off the grid no electricity no pave roads like oh really yeah yeah like you see
wait where's oh yeah okay so here's here's where'd moscow go i just saw it. Moscow?
Yeah.
Oh there. Yeah.
Okay, there's Moscow. And then there's St. Petersburg.
Okay, sure. And then look at all this.
Yes! Yes!
What the fuck is Belovo? What's Tashtagol?
Fucking Mongolia!
What are we talking about?
Yes, it's huge!
And it goes all the way down to here. It goes, it goes south of it's even with Sochi is even with Florence.
Dude, I'm telling you, it would be so cool. You could meet Snowden. Doesn't he live out there? You could take the you could take the Trans Siberian Express, which I've always when I train that's that interests me the trans-siberian railroad. Yeah, you could take that across
I mean that would be really cool to go out there. I bet the countryside is really beautiful. Oh my god
Beautiful just never called me
Me either and so and what you know what why suddenly I thought about it is just out of them like wait
Have we been like basically programmed to not think about visiting Russia?
You know what I mean?
Is it in the conditioning to not even ever want to go there?
A lot of great writers come from there.
Dude, it's like...
True.
I don't know what the conditions are there, but I imagine if you get out of the cities
and deep into the countryside.
God.
Dude, I just heard about Pussy know, Pussy Riot, right?
Yeah, sure.
So I just did a little research on them
because one of them kind of like some artist,
I don't know, but reached out from Iceland,
was telling me about one of them.
And it's not really a band, the more I researched,
just like a group of artists,
and they do music as well as other things.
But they got like misconstrued as like a band,
but it's like,
it's just a collective. It's an artist collective. Um, anyway,
so after a bunch of them were arrested and put in a fucking gulag for a while,
one of them left and went to, I think LA or something.
And one of them stayed this lady named Maria stayed. And she was like,
instead of going, Oh, I hate Russia. She was actually like, no,
I still love Russia
and I want to free Russia from the state they're in.
And so she stayed sowing like discontent and dissidence
until the Ukrainian war.
And once the Ukrainian war came,
they fucking came to her house to arrest her again.
So she had escaped in the middle of the night.
She had to dress up like as a food worker and then escape.
She's living in Iceland now.
But it's like all this crazy shit.
And it's like, she's an artist.
She's a Russian artist with like a badass fucking vibe.
You know what, Ari, now I think about it.
Yeah, don't go to Russia.
Maybe that's not the time.
What about China? China would be incredible. I'd love to go to Russia. Maybe that's not the time. China would be incredible. I love to go to China.
That's all Shanghai and Beijing, Hong Kong. What about all this? There's not even a city on here.
Dude, it would be amazing. I mean, all these like, you know, you have all these places where it's like,
there's still humans there, but maybe the state there, you know,
you just don't know how much of not going to a place
is because of what you've been told
from something trying to like propagandize you
and how much true.
And you'll never know till you go.
And the problem-
So I just went with, I just did a Ubi Trippett episode
with Gio, Julio Gallerotti, this comic from New York. He's a real traveler, he's talking about Afghanistan.
And then one of the things he noticed, he was like,
hey, how come women here aren't all covered up?
Right.
You go, some of them are showing their faces.
Is it the law?
They're like, yeah, it's the law,
the official Taliban law is you gotta cover your face.
And he goes, but that one's not, that one's not,
that one's not, and they were like,
yeah, I mean, we don't really enforce it
as much as you think.
It's like, oh, it's like jaywalk is not allowed.
But like, no one's gonna get a rest over that outside LA.
Dude, I'm telling you, that's the pro, like,
you won't, like, you're not gonna know anything.
You gotta go.
You gotta go, because you're not gonna know
from social media, you're not gonna know
until you're there.
And the problem is, if you go there,
and as it turns out, the depictions are true, you're not coming back, maybe, you know? you're there and the problem is if you go there and as it turns out the depictions are true
You're not coming back. Maybe you know like
That's the problem. He's like, oh fuck. I'm arrested for no reason. I guess they were right. That's the scary
You got to really roll the dice man, especially someone like you a public figure where they know you like, you know
You could be in trouble. I mean you could be collateral man
where they know you like, you know, you could be in trouble. I mean, you could be collateral, man.
They could just any of these places just arrest you
and try to trade you from some arms manufacturer or something.
Prisoner exchange.
I'm a real Bernie grinder.
You can't bring weed there, though, for sure.
If you were. I can't.
No, you can't. I can find weed.
Dude, shut up.
No, you.
Shvetsnyak?
Did you just break into Russian?
No, no, no, no.
Shvetsnyak.
No, you're a lizard, you're a lizard, you're a lizard.
I don't know any other languages other than English.
Good old English.
All you need, I don't know Russian.
Did you really hear me say something in Russian?
Oh, I gotta go.
Woo, I gotta go.
Ari, you have been wonderful.
You're the best, man.
I can't wait to see you when you come back to Austin.
Yeah, me too.
I'll put a link to Ari's podcast, of course,
in the comment section of this episode.
You're the best.
Have a good night, Ari.
Bye.
See ya.
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