Duncan Trussell Family Hour - Mikey Kampmann
Episode Date: August 29, 2015World Explorer, Mikey Kampmann, tells of his wild, supernatural, adventures in the south pole. ...
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Mikey Cameron
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Mikey
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Podcast, thank you so much for coming on the show
Thank you, Duncan
You are the only person I know
On the planet that has been to
Antarctica, I think
Why'd you go there?
Why did I go there?
It was a long time dream
And
I've always kind of lived
A little bit like that where I come up with these visions
These dreams and then try to
Find a way to make them happen
Maybe I had a friend who went and worked on there
Once he went, in my mind
I was like, okay, it's possible now
Once I knew someone
Previous to that, I'd seen just like Werner Herzog
Documentary, read a little bit about Shackleton
Who's one of the most badass
People in history
Can you talk about Shackleton a little bit?
Shackleton is one of the true heroes
Of the
Early explorative days
In Antarctic history
He led a few missions, he went to Antarctica
A couple of times
Most of them failed
Including the most famous one
Where he went in an attempt to
Traverse Antarctica
It was in 1911
1908
And they got stuck on the ice for two years
And they never made it to Antarctica
It was like a crew of 64 people
The ice came around
And
Frozen the boat in the water
And they got stuck there
So what did they do
For two years?
I mean, past the time
I don't know
Two years
They celebrated Christmas dinners
Down there
They were hunting for seal
They did have their supplies
Their rations
But eventually those started to run out
The ice was slowly crushing the ship
To the point where eventually then
They realized we have to abandon the ship
And just take the row boats
And now sort of try to
Field some
It's like
Miraculous escape
And they were able to do it
64 crew members
And not a single one died
How did they escape?
They slowly made their way across the ice
At times having to get in the boats
And sort of sail
And then drag them
And then sail drag them
And they knew with their maps
That there was an island of South Georgia
And
And they thought
If we can get to that island we have a chance
Because there's on the opposite side of this island
There's a little outpost
And
So they
They didn't know
It was kind of like blind sailing
And I think
Worley, I think was the name of the captain
Who was the navigator
I mean
You couldn't
He just knocked it out the park basically
In terms of navigation
And sailed them
Through horrible storms
I mean that part of the world gets
The waters are frightening
The waters so ice cold
They're freezing to death basically
They have no water, you can't drink
Isn't that water so cold that if you fall in you're dead
Within 10 minutes you're like
Hypothermic
And they had no drinking water
They finally
What were they drinking?
Nothing
They had
Some melted ice that they had
But that ran out
And so the first thing
The image, because there's all these diaries that were kept
And the first thing they did when they landed
On the island was there was a waterfall
And they all just went and ran up to it
And it was just trickling down
And they just put their lips to the rock
To taste the rock
Can you imagine
What's going through your mind
Month 3
Into being trapped
In Antarctica
You've got your wife, a lot of those guys had
Like girlfriends
They knew what they were doing
They knew they were going into
A expedition where
Death was
There was likelihood of death
Or not, yeah
That their technology didn't really
Suit them for that
Place
The clothing they had
Was fairly ridiculous
Not barely waterproof
Or anything like this
How much did they know about Antarctica?
No one had stepped foot on Antarctica
Until 1904
Or 1904
Or 1902
But no one had even seen it until
1890 something
They just know there's a big
Mass of ice up there
But it's unknown
There's so much of it that was this unknown territory
And most of it was being
Motivated by this sort of
Arbitrary goal
Of reaching the South Pole
Which is
The axis of the earth
So it's got significance in that respect
But other than that, it's just a place
Are you familiar with Hollow Earth theory at all?
No
See, this is kind of interesting
And it's one of my favorite conspiracy theories
Obviously
I don't believe in it
But I don't think you need to believe in a conspiracy theory
To really enjoy it
But the concept is that
So
At the poles
There is a portal
Or like an entryway
Into the inner depths of the earth
Where there's actually another earth
Underneath us
And it's tropical down there
It's somehow
Heated by this
It's heated by some kind of
Luminance
Luminous
I don't know what, there's theories about how it's heated
But there's all these interesting stories
About people
Who get up that way
And see some weird shit
You hear about people seeing weird stuff up there
There's a story of a German
Summarine commander
Who took his submarine
Into some kind of subterranean cavern
And like
Came out of the water
Into a cave
Where there were mammoths
Weird stuff like that
All these prehistoric creatures
Fled into the interior of the earth
So
Antarctica in that part of the world
Is a fascinating place
Even if it isn't an entryway into a place
Where there's still mammals
That used to be tropical
Yeah, once upon a time
And there's landmass actually beneath the ice
9300 feet of ice
At the south pole
Can I also tell you what is physically
Beneath the south pole
My last night
Because I was working at the south pole station
And I stared at the south pole every day
And
It was phenomenal, it's a flat
Nothing in place, but in the last night
We go out
Led this mission
There's a metal marker
That actually marks
The south pole and it moves every year
Because the ice is sliding
But we go out to it and he pulls it up out of the ground
And
He had stashed a joint there
So there's
Why that?
So that joint
Was charged
The energy of the entire planet
That's got to be
Some kind of energy conduit
That's got to be some kind of
Was it a quote?
Tell me what it was like to smoke a joint
That had been seeded
By the energies of the pole
It was exciting
It was an
I would go out there
On a regular basis
Because I was there as the breakfast cook
At the south pole station
I was making breakfast for 250 people
As part of a larger kitchen crew
That sounds incredibly stressful
I'm not a chef
How did you get the job?
I said I had cooked in
I had done
A little bit of cooking
So I guess based on what you're saying
There's not a lot of people in line
To cook breakfast in Antarctica
I got lucky
I couldn't believe how easy it was
For me personally
After years of thinking about going there
To try to get myself to Antarctica
And the best way was to work through
For the United States Antarctic program
It was a government job
I have even awarded a medal from congress
It's kind of cool in that respect
I actually feel good about that
That is really cool
I don't know
Now you're the only person
I know has a medal from congress
What is the process
In applying for this job?
Tell me from the very beginning
Something clicks inside of you
You're ready to make this leap
To go to Antarctica
You do have to physically qualify
Which I thought was going to be
A pretty good title
Of like okay I'm fit
I'm in good shape
I've got my go to the dentist
Make sure you don't have any cavities
Think about the headache
If you have any of that stuff go wrong
Down there they have to fly you out
There are medical staff on hand
They're trying to avoid everything
I thought showing up in Antarctica
Was going to be part of this
Fairly fit crew of people
It's amazing
How not true that was
Some people
Not very in shape
What do you mean just
There's obese people out there
Antarctica is about 80% obese
Really?
No
But there were some big boys and girls
It seems dangerous to be a big boy
But there's also some big boy jobs
Down there that
Most of it is
Maintaining this
Insane
It's inhospitable
It's a station in the middle of somewhere
That no one should be
What are they studying?
Specifically at the South Pole
They're using radio telescopes
To map the universe
Using light that's like
Left over from the Big Bang
It's about light that's 400,000 years old
After the Big Bang
It's been traveling
Through the universe for about 13 billion years
I do indeed
That is crazy to think
There's some crazy
What do they look like?
What are the gauges?
They look like a sort of giant satellite
And they're not visual
They're not visual light telescopes
So you're not zooming in on a star
And seeing this beautiful nebula
Electromagnetism
It's just microwaves
And that's what light is
Right?
It's just like the most
Sensitive camera in the world
That's detecting the tiniest
Faintest microwaves
Left over from the Big Bang
That are
Like traveling through the universe
And as that light would bend
Around galaxies
And stuff
They can detect that
So they can create a map
Of the universe
Even I was like
I would go to the telescope after work
And try to get this explained
And still doesn't quite make sense
But
They could create this sort of
And the map looks like
Green dots
Clusters
Almost like static
But what those clumps are
Clusters are galaxies
And
Huge
But that's only also looking at like
Temperature on the sky
Universe man
It's insane
And it's insane that they're these kind of
Cosmological wizards
Who have
Become so interested
In what the universe is
That they've created an entire
Essentially a temple to science
In one of the most inhospitable
Parts of the world
So that they could study the first
The first
I guess
Breath
The first breath of creation
They're up there studying the very first
Exhalation of
Matter
Trying to find if there was any sort of
Pattern or any sort of
Like structure behind how
All this was formed
And on a personal level
A lot of these guys were the same age
And that was the part that for me
Was
You know, I mean
I dealt with that in my own ways
Go back to my room and cry
Because I'm cooking the breakfast
And had committed their lives to this
Science and this pursuit of
Oh, you felt that there was some kind of hierarchy there
No, not even a hierarchy
But I was inspired by them
And felt like, wow, you know
I've been trying to chase these different little
Physical pleasures in my life
And trying to
You know, have fun, go to shows
And whatever, whatever
Go to the beach
Meanwhile, these guys are just
Probably locked themselves up in
A classroom or study hall
For 15, 20 years
And now I was paying off
Because they're part of this sort of
International science project
To map
The light
From the Big Bang
And how the universe was formed
I mean, it's fascinating
Yeah, it really is, but I don't think you should be so hard on yourself
I think people are
You know, man, like that thing
Where you're
You look at these brilliant
Scientists studying
Microwaves
In the South Pole
And then you look at your own
Personal life
Of what you seem to consider to be
Edenism to some degree
Self gratification
And you think, ah, man
What have I done?
All this time I could have been
Locked up in a classroom
Learning how to peer into the heart of the universe
Into the lifeless
Empty
Dead
Inexplicable
Part of the universe
If you were sending people
To a planet
To explore the experience of existence
And they were all getting different assignments
True. I have a feeling the people
Whose job it was to sit in the coldest
Fucking place on earth staring at
Microwave signals, if that's their mission
They're gonna be jealous of the guys
Who got sent to the same dimension
To experience orgasm
True. Great beers
Incredibly good times
You know, it's all
Isn't it weird though how there's this like
Hierarchy of experience or like
There's certain experiences which are considered mundane
Pedestrian
And somehow unimportant
Which is generally the experience of like
Getting high, going to a bar
Playing video games, having sex
Enjoying walks
Going to barbecues
Somehow that
Is less of an exploration
Than exploring the deep
In a recess in the universe
Of existence at all. It seems like it's all
A worthy exploration, isn't it?
I agree. I mean ultimately
And yeah
Ultimately it's like this way I feel
We
Have been given this
Window into this to be able to be
Alive, okay, regardless of what it is
Uh
How real it is or whatever
We're here and we have the ability
To observe and we have the ability
To have curiosity and so
I guess no matter what direction you
Explore that in, whether it's to
The far reaches of our limitless universe
Or into
The interior, the far reaches of
The mind and whatever
It doesn't matter. There's no such
Wrong way to be alive
As long as you are
Think, like this is what I personally think
As long as you're actively exploring
And staying curious, my friends
Yeah
Yeah, I don't know
That's kind of what's marked my own life
And led a lot of the decisions that
I've made in my experience
To try to
Just to try to
Take a sip from every glass or whatever
I don't know, I mean
Yeah, I mean there's certain things I'm like
Okay, I'm not gonna do that, but at the same time
I don't know, that's what I think, so
Ultimately I guess yeah, I don't actually feel that
Sorry for myself for being the breakfast cook
Or whatever like that, but
Because without the goddamn breakfast cook
Those nerds aren't going to be able
To survive long enough
To stir their best stupid microwave
Man, by the way
I'm obviously joking about that
I consider those people to be kind of
Some, to me those are the magicians
Or those are the wizards
And what they're working with
With science, which to me it might as well be magic
Because I don't understand it
At all, and I don't really
I'm not drawn into the deeper
Understandings of things like that
I just trust that those people
When they articulate what they're picking up
That
It's real, and it does seem so
Fantastic
That to me it's
So many people
For whatever reason
Feel like science and god
Can't really get along
That
There can't, that
Conceptualization
Of a
Higher intelligence
That breathed all of this creation
Out
It can be made
To apply to science, but that
Application is always wrong
And that application is
Plugging in a primitive, archaic
Paradigm
Into a brand new paradigm
And the two
Can't go together, but I just can't disagree
That more, I think that
If god represents
If you look at the old descriptions
Of god, there are always things like
The highest of the high
The
In a supreme dream
The supreme dream
In the Hare Krishna's call it
Bhagavan, I believe
Which means
The greatest of all things, so the most
Attractive, the most intelligent
The most beautiful, the most perfect
And everything is
An emanation from
That
Thing that they call the godhead
And so
Those scientists
They're peering into
The godhead
They're peering into
This inexplicable
Energy burst
And within it
All information
All data, they're recording
That initial exhalation
Of all data
Into time
And how is that not god?
Isn't that god too?
Why can't you worship data?
Why can't I worship the sum total of all data?
People do, people already are
Yeah
I was inspired by their work
And I was there in the summer
Okay, here's the other thing
I was in there in the summer, it's population
250 while I was there
Four months, it's light the entire time
Weird
So you don't see the night time, the sun just
Does spirals in the sky
I would start my day at 2.30 in the morning
Walk out of my little hut
And just get full blasted
Sunshine
Every day is like you are leaving a rave
Yeah
And there were good parties
Down there too
People are cutting loose
Down there, especially the scientists
This is their chance to be in the field
And enjoy
The fruits of the present
What kind of intoxicants are they taking?
A lot of alcohol
A lot of alcohol
And that's because a lot of alcohol
Is government subsidized
So it used to be $10
For a bottle of any booze
And then slowly, the year I was there
It was $30
Anyway, big parties on the weekend
Dance parties, scientists cutting
You know, cutting loose
Dancing into the late hours
People passing out around the station
And a lot of people are pumping
Yes, free condoms in every bathroom
At the South Pole, in Antarctica basically
Any US base, because they know
What's going on, it's a small
Isolated population
People are fucking
And how do you deal with that
Such a small population
Aren't people jealous of each other
There's horror stories
Of relationships gone to shit
Full couple swaps
In the course of a winter
Because the winter
Specifically at the South Pole
The winter is eight months
Six of those months are in complete darkness
So it's the opposite of the summer
And during that six months
Things go a little squirrely
So there's stories of
I mean
Things go a little squirrely
In the six months of darkness
It sounds like the
Beginning of
What you just said, it feels like
It should be followed by a story
Involving vampires
Like ice vampires
That's where they
I mean, they talk about
Things like that
They talk about things like that
My first day on the ice
When you're there, it's called the ice
My first day on the ice, my boss
And his assistant
Without being
Solicited, they mentioned the graze
What they say about the graze
They said don't fuck the graze
You can make love to anyone on the base
But the graze
They're very jealous
Because they're going to get weird on you
Don't fuck the graze
Yeah, definitely don't do that
No, they just said
You won't see them much in the summer
Because they mostly come out in the winter
And both of them had done winters
I had one small experience
With sort of an unknown
Element
And there was a couple there
They said they were from Colorado
I mean, this is absolutely true
From my perspective of experience
They were working in the kitchen
I love them
They were great, good people
But they said they were from Colorado
But they had these accents
That were bullshit
You know what I mean?
That's not a Colorado accent
If anything, it sounded like
From Spain or I don't know
Something was off
And
There were a couple
Three years they'd waited to come down to Antarctica
Antithesis is my experience where I applied
And suddenly a week later I had the job
So they waited three years
And they were working as dishwashers
Who waits three years to become a dishwasher?
Okay, whatever
That's another point
One day they're in the
Dish pit and I'm
Taking in some dishes from breakfast
Whatever
And I walk in on them having a conversation
And it was
I'm not joking, they were speaking in a language
That was not English
It was not Spanish
And I just didn't recognize it
It sounded
Digital, truly!
Can you imitate it a little bit?
Can you try to do it?
I mean I'm gonna
Just give it a shot
I swear
So they're doing clicks
Yeah, there was like little clicks
And just like I said, digital sounds
Okay, and
The way I walked in
Is the female
Kind of part
She had her back to me
She couldn't see me
She was the one talking
Her husband
Was kind of at an angle
Towards me
Face of me
So he eventually saw me out of the corner of his eye
And she's still talking
In this language
And eventually he looks at me
He sees me and he looks at her
And just says, stop
What?
He said stop
Holy shit
What do you think that was?
I have no clue
No clue
You connect it with the gray thing
The gray thing was mostly fun
You know, it was fun to like
Point around, we'd sit there
I would sit there with one of my co-workers
And we'd point out who do you think is the gray
So the concept is that
Some of the people
Working in that
Station could have been aliens
Or
They're
Exactly, for some other reason
And that's some kind of spy language
That they're speaking
Could be
I kind of would keep my eye on what they would do
With their free time
With their free time around the station
Because there's parts of the station
That you can explore
Each person kind of carves out the world
That they want to inhabit while they're at the station
So for me, it was a lot of walking outside
Taking in the actual Antarctic landscape
Going to check out the science
With them, I don't know
They kind of stuck to themselves a little bit
Kind of fairly quiet
They were great, like I said, they were great
And I did start
Like a little
Rumor
That I had heard all this
And that I had a thought
That maybe they were aliens
Or something like this, you know
Did you get any blowback from that?
I did, eventually
Last week there at the station
It's like any place where
At the end of the season, a couple big parties
People open up about everything
And she goes
She goes, you think I'm an alien?
And I was like, hey
I don't know
I just don't know
Yeah, I heard you
Remember that day in the dispatch?
She was like, yeah
I don't know
What are the cliques?
Did you ask her what the cliques were?
I don't know
Because you know what ended up happening instead?
We were all drinking
In some symbolic gesture
This obviously doesn't do anything
But it's a cool story
We expressed how much we really
Just ultimately liked each other
And working with each other
And her and her husband and me
We all leaned in and tried kissed
So I was in my mind
I always pretend that I
Made out with a couple aliens
You
Made out
You had
The kinkiest
Makeout session
That's the oddest make out
Now that is the strangest
Makeout session
Perhaps I would guess
That day on planet earth
If there was a way
To scan and say bring up the top three
Strangest make out sessions that happened today
In this 24 hour period
Yours would be number one
It feels like a privilege to be in that group
A human made out with a male
And female alien
In a base in the north pole
And found in some kind of way
In that moment perhaps you
Unity, connection
To the whole universe
In that moment it was
You don't even know
When everything was teetering in the balance
You could have created an alliance
With some race that
Yeah
Listen man, you know, that's what
That's the funny thing about hollow earth theory
Because you are not clearly the people
That they know about this
You do know that a lot of people say
The UFOs and the grays don't come from outer space
But they come from within the interior
Yeah
And this is the, so the mythology is
There's all these stories
Of these subterranean beings
That, you know
Dwarfs
Creatures that live under the earth
They're in all kinds of mythologies
And
Many people say
That there is a race
Of beings
That live within the core of the earth
And that it's actually kind of strange
That
We as humans have decided to live
On the outside of the spaceship
Right
And that the fact that we have decided
To make camp on the outside of the spaceship
Is
Not something that happens
In other planets
So
Because other advanced
Species after
Infinite catastrophes
Involving
Meteor impacts
Realized that to truly build
A lasting civilization
You can't do it on the surface
Of any planet because
Those planets are always being smashed
To pieces by meteorites
So you gotta go inside
So Mars
Pluto
Venus, all these planets
Are just the exterior shells
Of these spaces
And they're just watching us thinking
Fucking idiots
Yeah, they're watching us
Maybe they'll figure it out
Yeah
Of course, again man
Earth is incredible, we have the beach
Yeah, we have the beach, we have the mounds
We have so many varied landscapes
Even here in the United States
The more I travel
The more I realize that
We essentially have
From a landscape perspective
We have everything you would ever want
From other parts of the world
Oh, you mean the United States?
What we have, it's so crazy
That we have that
I was in the Olympic Peninsula last weekend
Up in Washington State
It's a rainforest
That centers around Mount Olympus
But it's big, so it's a peninsula
So there's coastline all along the exterior
It's a beautiful part of the country
It's pristine, it's
Fairly empty, there's not much
Many people living up there, it's nice to know
That these places still exist
We were in a small little fishing village
In LaPouche
And then there's beach camping
You hike in three-quarters mile
And that night we were camping
And it was a new moon
So there's no moon, but also
It's the Pacific Northwest of the Olympic Peninsula
It was completely fogged over
So you couldn't see a single cloud
I mean you couldn't see a single star
You couldn't see the moon
So there was no light
We had a little beach fire going
Just perfectly
It made no sense to us because there was no light
So we get up, we walk closer to the beach
And we realize it was phosphorescent
Waves that
It was bioluminescence in the water
And every time it was churned up
It would essentially create
That energy that would create the bioluminescence
To light up
So we watched these waves
Just crash and create these little
Green lines
Of light down the whole coastline
Wow
Man, that is so...
You are a traveler
You don't stick...
You've made this decision
You're not going to get caught up
In any kind of single pattern
You're always doing things like that
While I'm inside
With the home of the air conditioner
And the binding of Isaac
The video game I'm currently addicted to
iTunes, Netflix
Game of Thrones
Which is a portal to anywhere that you want to go
Well, yeah, but it doesn't
There's no, as far as I'm aware
Bioluminescent waves
That I can watch it
I'm not making out with aliens in there yet
Yeah
But you are someone
Who's done this thing
Where you've decided
To plunge
Into the energy of life
And you
You're an adventure
When I was 16 years old
I'd been studying Chinese in high school
And then
Again, someone before me
At the school went to China for a year
And it's not an exchange program
It's just you go to
A little school year abroad
And that opened my eyes
And I went to China at 16
I only did a semester because I didn't want to go too far
When I was young
So six months in Beijing
And the first time I'd
Been exposed to other culture
And everything
And in that six months I learned more about
Not only the world, but myself
And everything
Meanwhile, just taking an incredible
New array of sights and sounds
And flavors, whatever
And
Made great friendships
For that time
You're always making friends
I realized immediately that
My true education was going to be defined
Through travel
So then it became this hunger
To go explore as many places
Because the more
I started to travel, the more I realized
There is no one right way
To live
It's what we have
Our greatest
Characteristic as a species
Is our diversity, truly
In the way that
We started
Studying social anthropology
At college as well
And that kind of
Reinforced that
Because you started learning about
Ethnographic societies that
Experienced the world with sight
I mean smell as their primary sense
As opposed to sight
Or you know
Yeah, all these
There was a group of people
In South America that believe
Humans are real
Body form as a snake
And we take
We put on like a body
To experience this world, but as our spiritual form
It's like you
It's like almost like you zipper down the
Front of your face and peel out of the skin
And you're a snake
I want to ask you your opinion on this
I'm reading right now this
Great, I'm really enjoying this book
By Sam Harris called Waking Up
Sam Harris is, I haven't finished the book yet
So if I say things that he
That he doesn't
That he says later on, I'm sorry
For those of you who are big Sam Harris fans
And I know a lot of you are
He
Talks about
The idea that certain
Religions, most religions
Christianity
Islam
About theosophy
Madame Blotovsky
He talks about a lot of these
Very esoteric
Metaphysical systems
As though
They are kind of impediments
To a person's
Discovery of truth
So a person who believes
That he has a snake inside
Of him
And I'm sorry, I don't mean to speak for Sam Harris
I might
I don't know what he would say about that person
Necessarily, but I think
Maybe you could, it would be safe to say
That Dawkins, someone like Richard Dawkins
Would say
That's a bunch of superstitious bullshit
There is no snake
Inside of you my friend
You're a person with bones
And cells and a spine
And though it's quaint and cute
That you believe there's a snake inside of you
The reality of the situation is
That belief in the long run
Is impeding you
From achieving the kind of
Health
Perhaps longevity
Or
The ability
Or technology that can only be
Obtained
From coming into direct contact
With quantifiable truth
So when you say
Diversity
Is the most important thing
The most beautiful thing
How would you respond to the concept
That this diversity
Is much of this diversity
Is made up of
Superstitious thought patterns
That are completely
Unverifiable and have no basis
In reality
Well, who's reality first?
Okay, reality is this
Is what you make of it
In a way, or you choose truth
Is you're making those choices all the time
To live in what the world you want to live
From my perspective, when I think about that
And those two very different
Points of view, I think first of all
How lucky I am to be able to sit here
And know that both exist
And make my own conscious decision about
Which one I think is valid or
Choose in my life when I want those points to be valid
But outside of that
I
I, it makes me happy
To know that
There were people
Who were existing in their own
Slave community, where that's
How they found meaning
It doesn't matter, it like
What are we chasing?
What does Richard Dawkins want?
What's his end game goal?
I don't know what he wants, but I can
Guess what he doesn't want
And what he doesn't want
Is the people who believe
That there's snakes inside of them
Or the people who believe
That their god
Telling them that
Homosexuality is evil
Or the people who are saying
From time to time
You need to put on dynamite
And walk into cafes for the lord
I know that Dawkins
And I'm pretty sure Harris
Don't want those people
To have any kind of
Political power
Because if they do
They fuck shit up
And if you look at the age of faith
And the breaks that were put on
Human evolution by the Catholic
Church, the Christian
Community, they went from being
These kind of quaint
Interesting sweeties
And I don't mean the Christian community
The fundamentalists, because the Christian
Community is its own diverse wild beast
But the fundamentalists
Went from being what they currently
Are, they went from being
Rather they went from being
Essentially like if there is a Satan
In the hand of Lucifer on earth
They became the
The wall
That got in the way
Of the great thinkers, they killed a lot
Of the greatest thinkers, in the same way
ISIS is demolishing
Ancient temples in Syria
In the same way that
ISIS is throwing gay people
Off of roofs
And I know there are very small cluster of people
That have probably been inflated in danger
By the media, but still they exist
That's what
It used to be like
Everywhere
Which was that you would get burned at the stake
Tortured, executed, and destroyed
For your beliefs
Because many of these religions
Which in small microdoses
And thought patterns seem very quaint
And cool
And you can really dig your teeth into
And think, man, I can see I'm a snake
If that expands
Too much and becomes a dominant
Paradigm
Then the end result is
The complete slowdown
If not stopping
Of technological progress
And technological progress
Holds within it the key
For human beings
To migrate into space
And populate
Now, by the way, what I did
I have played devil's advocate there
Because
I don't know
From two perspectives, it's like
The great question is
Here
As population grows
And its access to technology
Becomes
As technology becomes increasingly accessible
To larger portions of the
Human population
Then what that means is
That
It becomes increasingly dangerous
For people who believe
In things like
Angry Jehovah God
I don't know about the snake people
I don't even mean to bash them, man
I'm just using them as a point
It becomes increasingly dangerous
What are we going to do
When you can 3D print
A fucking bio weapons laboratory
What are you going to do
When you're able to somehow create some kind of like
When you're able to
This is what I think
I think the biggest lesson
That we need to teach our future generations
Is that
Very simple concept
That there is no one way
To do things
And I heard a 4 year old child
Say this the other day
He was playing with a friend
And a friend was trying to build some blocks
And the kid was struggling
And so this boy came over 4 years old
And he's like, hey, let me show you
The way to do this
And I was like, dude, the future
Okay, there's some hope
There's a chance
I don't know
I'm constantly conflicted with our current
State
Of things going on in the world
I sit and
Kind of think about this
And have existential crisis all the time
Because I'm not sure if this is the most exciting time
Where it's like finally
People are starting to
Be able to recognize
The folly and so many of the decisions
Of our societal structure
Especially western society
For the last 500 years
Or, you know, there's that view
Or just think
Fuck, the population is too big
The people who did
Begin the kind of clutch of power
500 years ago have now gone to
A place where they control so much
Beyond what we even know
It's always
Mind blowing to think about
What we don't know in terms of
Decisions that are actually being made on a day-to-day basis
To run the world
And think, okay, we're fucked
There's no way
So what are you supposed to do in the meantime?
I don't know, I think all you can do is just focus on
In your own world, I hear that
The kids say that
Or think about people
Starting to maybe come back to
Our earth and be like, oh, let's treat it a little bit better
Or whatever like that and awareness for
That and I think, okay
Just live small
And slowly
Maybe they'll make
A difference or something like that
Yeah, I think you're right
But it's so funny because when I think
You make a personal decision
Your first thing that you
Mentioned with a 3D printer
Is bio warfare
Oh, yeah
I mean, I guess that's a
Realistic look at the world
Here's the problem
So the problem is this
The technology
Is an amplification device
And the way it amplifies things
Is like any other amplifier
It can amplify
The lectures of Ram Dass
Or Jack Cornfield
Or Gandhi
Or it can amplify
The YouTube comments
Of Derek7964
Who wants to leave comments
In every single video
About how the person who posted the video
Is
A faggot
And deserves to die
You know what I mean?
Now if you look
And see, now I think YouTube comments
As much as people decry them
I think they're a fantastic way
To understand
The problem
Of technology
Because when you see an angry
YouTube comment
Written by a racist homophobe
Maybe a 12 year old
Maybe a 30 year old
Filled with violence and just
Pure deep sizzling
Anger
Essentially like putting a
Stethoscope to the wall
Of hell and hearing the moans
Of the damned
That's what YouTube comments remind me of
I think if you were in hell
Walking through hell
You wouldn't hear people crying for help
You would hear people saying
You stupid fat shit
Get the fuck away from me you stupid fat fuck
You fucking shit fuck
I think that's what you'd hear mostly in hell
You wouldn't hear oh god please help me
You just hear
The lashing
The lashing out of the damned
Sure
So when you
Read YouTube comments
We got one
DJ Doug Pound
And I
And now J. Wang are as well
We have a show called
And we make videos for it
And thank you
On one of the videos
Someone just said
Eric why would you want to be faggots
And I'm just like
What is that coming from
Well it's coming from pain
It's coming from a deep
Because you have to put yourself
In the position
Of a person leaving
The comment
And you also have to analyze
So every time you
Read a shitty comment
It gives you a tiny
Penprick of sadness
You do feel bad
Little bad maybe a lot bad
It'll get to you but there's an initial
It doesn't feel good
No matter how advanced you want to be
It still sucks
So that's one little pixel of suffering
That that person has generated on earth
Now if you take the sum
Total of all shit
Comments being posted per second
On this planet
Then you can see that technology
Is not only creating wonderful
This entertainment and knowledge
But it's also
Generating a pretty
Steady rate of toxic
Emotional pain
And it's probably
For all the good it's doing
You could say it's there's an equivalent
Hopefully not equivalent
But potentially equivalent amount of bad
That's happening simultaneous
And the problem with that is that
Because of what Kurzweil calls
The law of accelerating returns
Those two sides are going
To amplify their energy
Is going to increase and increase and increase
As we move
Into the future
And so what that means is that idiots
Are no longer going to just be using youtube comments
As a means to spread
Their poison into the world
But they are going to adopt
Or they are going to use
Any technology that they can
Or anything that you give an angry person
That person will use it to hurt
If I give an angry person
A pen
The angry person within a certain amount of time
Is going to write a shitty note to somebody
About how they suck
If I give an angry person a gun
Depending on how angry they are
There is a very high probability
That angry person is going to use that tool
To kill a person
If I give an angry person
Access
To the entire
Mind of the planet
Anything they want to all of humanity
To be recorded eternally
In the digital transcript
That is being created thanks to
The growth of technology
They will use that to imprint
Not some beautiful thing
But to permanently imprint
A tiny poisonous
Thorn
Which will last as long as there is a planet
Or as long as there is hard drives
These curses and thorns
I have heard you talk about the curses before
How awful they are
So I don't know what I am getting
I don't mean to get so dire
But the point I am getting at
Is the next thing down the line
And the next thing down the line
Is going to be increasingly powerful
When these shitheads
Get a hold of it
They are going to use it
To wreak havoc
Stupidity is
Equally as big as an amplifier
Where does that come from
That comes from pain
Not only pain
But it also comes from
Regardless of
Whether it is temporary or permanent
A very narrow
View at life
And maybe that is from the pain
Pain has a way of
Bringing everything down
Into this little one tunnel
Of vision and that is all you want to feel
And
You are blind
Into all this incredible
Positive energy that is around you
So
Personally
This is how I deal with that
And how I deal with people who are doing these insane things
Around the world
Killing people
Creating
Making people feel bad for just trying to express themselves
In whatever way they feel
Happy
Happiness is whatever
It is bullshit in some respects
You think so?
It is a shallow pursuit
Happiness
Because it ignores pain
You have to accept pain
As part of your daily process
I think that sometimes
If you really analyze pain
You realize that it is actually making you happy too
Absolutely
I have been going through that quite a bit lately
How so?
I find myself
That sometimes I like being
Addicted to painful scenarios
Because then it gives me something
To brood about
Or to think about
And then when something in that situation changes
Slightly better
Then it creates this ephoric sense
Of delusional sense
That things are going to be great
Like the wave form
You are sort of getting off on the wave form
Of course
The story of
Most of our cultures
Is about riding that wave
Between
Happiness and pain
We like watching people fall and rise
And come up over again
Because it reminds us of parts of our own day to day life
Right
But ultimately some people do feel more pain than not
But you have to understand
That is a voice
That is one voice
Our population is 7,000 people
Let's think about the populations of people
Who exist outside of ourselves
Whether it be other
Animals or plants on this planet
Or
People outside of
Earth
Everyone in that universe
Is experiencing
Some sort of level
From pain to ecstasy
And so
At that point in your life
You are going to feel every one of the motions
That is in that range
And so
When I see people just crying out
In such
Like
Terrible
Agony or suffering
And it just reminds me
That hey
That is okay, been there
And I have a choice
To either inhabit that space
Or put more positive energy into the world
That is how I personally go about my life
Because I find that
I enjoy myself more
I enjoy the people around me more
I enjoy this planet more when I am putting positive energy into the world
It is that simple
It is that simple ultimately
It is that simple
And it is just God
Such a waste of time
So it is a
And I am sorry guys
I have to always say Ramdas says
Because he does say and I don't want to see him
Like I am lifting his brilliant idea
Which is that
We
Exist on a lot of different levels at once
I just read this great essay by him actually
Where he is talking about
When you are playing Monopoly
On one level
Your friends
Play a Monopoly
Like hey let's hang out and play Monopoly
It will be a blast
Being friends
You are vicious enemies trying to fuck each other over
In the most extreme way
And these two things are happening at once
And if you remove
The vicious enemies
Or if you move the competitive aspect of Monopoly
And it is not just happy competitive
It is generally a kind of mean
Competitive capitalist
That is part of the fun of the game right
So if you remove that
Then it is not that fun to play
You almost need both of those levels
Functioning at the same time for it to be fun
I don't want to have
A friendly game of Monopoly
I am sorry
That is the most boring thing you could do
I want to cutthroat
Vicious
Mean spirited
Unhappy
Poisonous game of Monopoly
After the game you kind of have to like
Me and my brother and my dad
When we played Monopoly
We actually had
A dollar of shame
And whoever won
Could say right whatever
Statement they wanted on the dollar bill
And whoever lost had to sign
Underneath the statement
The bill is filled
With things like my dad saying
Like I am the greatest father
That has ever lived
You know like something like that
We have to sign it but that is part of the fun
So
When we are
On this planet
You have
You get to decide
Which of these games you want to play
Right
Do you want to play the game of being the depressed
Angry, unhappy, bitter, jaded victim
Or do you want to play the game
Of being an expansion
Of the most beautiful
Perfect, incredible
Ever-amplifying
Harmonized energy
That has ever existed
All that does exist
Do you want to let that be the wind in your sails
Or will the wind in your sails be
A kind of zombie like
Dull movement
In the direction of fleeting temporary pleasure
Generated from causing
Your fellow human beings
Pain
I mean it's a no brainer for me
It's been a no brainer for a long time
I don't know why
I feel like
I had a lot of people growing up who were like
Wow you know that already
And I'm like what are you talking about
How do you not figure that out
Well some people fall asleep
When I think about when I've been a true
Cunt in the world
In the times that I find myself
Being a cunt
When mindfulness comes back
And I'm able to look at what I've done
Or how I acted
It appears that I've gone to sleep
It appears that I've gone into a very
Congealed
State where I'm rushing
From meaningless point
To meaningless point
A lot of people in hell
Are always in a hurry
To get to the worst part of hell
It's like people
In hell I guarantee there would be
Long lines of angry people
Waiting to try to get to certain
Fire pits
That are worse than the ones they were in
That sounds like a perfect description of
Los Angeles as well
The interesting
The thing that I've been playing around with
Lately
It all comes from that incredible
And I'm going to mispronounce it again
I got corrected by a lot of people last time
I said this but there's this thing called
The
Emerald Tablet of Try
I'm not going to mispronounce it this time
Thanks for correcting me you guys
There's this
This thing called the Emerald
Tablet
of
Trimest
Trimestiges
I was saying Trimestigeries
The Emerald Tablet of
Hermes Trimestiges
Which is this alchemical
Text
That is very simple
It's very simple
It's just a few lines
Let's see if I can find it
Really short
But the first part of it is
True without error
Certain and most true
That which is above
Is as that which is below
And that which is below
Is as that which is above
To perform the miracles of the one thing
I'll read the whole thing
Why don't we read the whole fucking thing
By the mediation of one
So from this one thing came all things
By adaptation
Its father is the son
Its mother is the moon
The wind carried it in its belly
The nurse thereof is the earth
It is the father of all perfection
In the consummation of the whole world
Its power is integral
If it be turned to earth
Thou shalt separate the earth from the fire
The subtle from the course
Gently and with much ingenuity
And descends again to earth
And receives the power of the superiors
And the inferiors
Thus thou hast the glory of the whole world
Therefore let all obscurity
Flee before thee
This is the strong fortitude of all fortitude
Overcoming every subtle
And penetrating every solid thing
Thus the world was created
Hence are all wonderful adaptations
Of which this is the manner
Therefore, am I called
Hermes, the thrice great
Having the three parts of the philosophy
Of the whole world
That is finished, which I have to say
Concerning the operation of the sun
That last part is kind of like a
He's like a rapper
Like what's thrice great
He had to like
He gave himself props at the end real quick
Like he says all these brilliant things at the end
He's like, I'm not great once
Motherfucker, I've been great
Three times, whatever that means
But I've been thinking a lot about the
That which is
As above so below
And I've been thinking about how
I, and most people I know
Want love
We want to be loved
We want to be loved so bad
And when we're being loved
We feel complete
When love is happening we feel so good
And so complete and like we're getting this incredible
Sustenance, this food
We're like Shackledon's men
When love comes
Lapping at the waterfall
And drinking it up as though we've been
Out in the ice forever
So if you consider
As above so below
And imagine that that is within us
And then just as a thought experiment
Imagine that that is a
Desire not just in humans
But in all things
That the entire world
The entire universe and we're part of the fabric
Of the universe is longing
For this love
And then you start
Instead of trying to
Pull that love to you
Start giving it not just to the people
Around you but to every single
Moment as though
All things were some super entity
And you had been called here just to
Love it
Then that shifts you from one frequency
To another
Instantaneously
And all of a sudden you look around
And you think about the words of all
David Jesus Christ
Who said the kingdom of heaven is at hand
It's here right now
Of course
Around you all the time
You are truly in heaven
The only thing keeping you from it
Is the fact that you keep trying
To suck
Love from the world
Instead of breathing love out
Well when I've been truly in love
In my personal life I find that
What I
Know about it most is it actually makes me
Be expressive
Towards other people
In the world around me in a loveful way
Like when you see someone who's truly in love
They walk into a room
And they are
Beyond happy
They are there
Like an open
Book
Or cup or whatever ready to just sort of
Drink in their environment
Open window
When you look into it you can see
Heaven
And that
Creates
Other openings and other windows
And then before you know it
There's no more windows
It's just all heaven
And then that's when you start experiencing
Those crazy synchronicities
I think I've told you this story before
But it works perfectly about this
Because the opposite of that when you're not in love
Like we said you're closing your world down
And you're seeing this such a narrow
View and you're creating paint
You're eating yourself up from the inside out
Right?
I had come back from Africa
Ethiopia was the first time I traveled to Africa
And
It was a heavy trip
Every time I've come back
There's a post
Post-trip
Depression
You just see certain
Things
Like what?
People's day to day living conditions
Their quality of life
The sort of
The conditions they live in
That they didn't have a choice about
That they were born into
And they're being held at bay by
Corrupt people and greedy people
Because there's tons of money in Africa
Whatever
Tons of resources
Yeah
There's some crazy things going on in Africa
And it just goes
Fairly ignored
But anyway every time I've come back
I've been pretty depressed
Why is it ignored?
This is something I wonder about all the time
Why do we ignore that?
Why is that part of the world completely
The world turns its back on Africa
I don't know
I honestly
I don't know
Like Africa and North Korea
Like North Korea you can kind of understand
People are just like
We were not really sad about them
We were just like
I hope it doesn't make it over here
I don't care if it
Liquifies everyone over there
Let's hope that they don't get on our airplanes
It's kind of fucking strange isn't it?
Is it because they don't have oil?
Do you think if Africa had
A bunch of oil over there
Like if there was a Saudi Arabia level
Of oil reserves
That we would be helping them more
Possibly
There's still racism
Let's be honest
You think it's racism?
I think it's a little bit of racism
But I'll tell you man
Racism has never stopped
The United States military
From helping folks
If there's some fucking oil out there
That's absolutely true
There is this weird coincidence
Isn't that a weird coincidence?
That's one of these great coincidences
Of our
Military
Our war strategy
Is that it does seem like
The most evil people are to be found around oil
Like you definitely
When we're going into like rescue
And help people
There's always oil nearby
It's so crazy to imagine
If the United States actually
And maybe it's scary if they were
Driven by some ethics
Instead of pure financial desire
Technology was done
Just if that technology could just be done
It'd be crazy
It'd be wonderful
If we actually started using all of our resources
Not to suck oil from the earth
But to help people
Sending out troops to go into other countries
And distribute food
Why don't we do that?
Someone let me know why we don't do that
Write an email please
I'd come back from Africa
Feeling pretty
Shit, just depressed
Had a small fling
That didn't work out
It was compound stuff
A fling with you in Africa
No
It was a relationship back home
But it was these compound things
So relationship going to shit
Coming back from Africa
Having seen some pretty hardcore things
Like on that level
You saw some dead bodies and stuff
You see people
On the side of the road who
Who are
Dying
People are just dying
In certain places
Not all
So this is
In cities you see the most hardcore things
How are they dying?
They're just poor
So this is
The United States
It's a pretty easy thing to forget
That our version
Of being down and out here
Is a lot of people's version
Of doing just fucking great
In some parts of the world
You can actually starve
To death
People don't realize that
You can actually starve to death
They just start like
That guy doesn't have food
We're not going to give him food
So you saw that
I've never seen that kind of poverty
I've been to India but I don't think I've ever seen anyone
Starving to death
I've seen people very poor in India
But
They're taken care of to some degree
Yeah, poor and sick
And just don't have any
No means
There's no government programs in Africa
Africa is so huge
In Ethiopia
Ethiopia is its own
Place
And I'm not
Knowledgeable enough to truly
Speak on it
Yeah, I don't know
I don't know what the deal was going on
I don't know, there's just
I wish I could talk about it
So I'll just move on
Come home
Dealing with all these
Issues in a funk
First I think I can just
Change it with my willpower
Tell myself I'm okay
But that's just
Actually, I'm just trying to hide it
Mask it
So eventually having done
Psychedelic mushrooms in the past
And knowing that their ability to sort of
Expose things going on inside
Forced you to sort of take a look
Inward and face yourself in the mirror
I said
I'm going to seek these out as a
Tool as a medicine
To try to
Deal with this funk
So I take them
Myself at a friend's house
I had his house for a little bit
And I leave
And I start to
Go through my trip and I'm walking
In the streets of Portland, Oregon
And
Eventually I
I'm feeling all these dark, dark thoughts
Just extremely dark and it's
Working, I mean it is working
In this
To uncover all this
And I go to cross a road
And I think I'm walking
At a pretty reasonable pace
I had checked to make sure cars
Weren't coming, but obviously my
Perception of time was
Off, I didn't get hit
But I found myself, I don't know
How long had passed
But I found myself crying
In the middle of the road
While cars waited on both sides
With their headlights on me
And it was such a
Raw moment where I was
Essentially
With all these lights and people staring at me
On stage in a very dangerous way
Of course, crying
Feeling dark and shitty for
Myself, and I immediately started laughing
You know what I mean? Because I was like
What a dumb ass move
First of all, what a dumb ass move
And second of all
How ridiculous, like
I did not, who leaves
Their house and just thinks I'm going to cry in the middle
Of the road today, so I started
Laughing and then crying, and then laughing
And then crying, and it was just like
Back and forth, and
I'm walking
It's night time now, and I'm walking
Down the road, and there's this little
Window open to a basement
And from the basement there's some sort of
Church choir practicing
Singing
And from their perspective, regardless
Of whether it's Christianity or whatever
They were singing from a place of this love
That they have for this thing, God or whatever
My favorite description of God is that
It's just love, God is love
It's that whole salvation mountain thing
So, they're singing
And I hear this music, and I hear that
Love in their voice for something else
For the world, for God, whatever
And I
Stopped walking, and I stood there
And I listened, and
It was beautiful, as you can imagine
I mean, everything's heightened as well
But it just was
So phenomenal, and then the song ended
And I just saw hand reach
To the window, and close it
Wow
And it was like, just a one
Song glimpse into this world, or whatever
To have that moment
And I continued to walking
And immediately, I
Knew the moral lesson of this story
And what had been eating me up was that
I would rather love someone else
Than hate myself
You know what I'm saying?
Spending that energy, I had been in that
For two months, I had been
Beating myself up, trying to just
I don't know, fix it
And I was creating all that energy
Thinking about how painful and shitty my situation is
And how fucked up the world is
And yet, I could have been
Spending that time
Expressing love
To other things
You went from input to output
Shifted the energy
And the moment you shift the energy
Whatever this stuff is
There appears to be two universes
Existing simultaneously
And it's not even two
It's a lot
But it seems like if there is a lot
With all the variances that can happen
It seems like you could almost divide
One group of potential
Universes in another group
With this very simple line between
And one group, one universe is populated
By people who are all input
And the other universe has people in it
Who are output
And the input people are in hell
Because they're trying to
They're trying to
They're trying to
Scratch an itch
In the exact wrong way
It's like they're scratching the wrong part of their body
They think that they have an itch on their foot
When the itch is on their neck
Only in this case
The feeling of
Hunger that they're having
Or suffering
Can only be quenched
By giving love to other people
And the moment you start giving love
Out to other people
All this other shit that was going inside of you
Really evaporates
But I think it's not easy though
And it's easy to sit here and talk
I think it's easy
About these kind of lovey hippy ideas
Or humanistic ideas about the world
I think it's easier than you think
I think you gotta do a thing where you give more
Than you feel
It might not work every time
But I think that if you
Identify somebody in your life
Who needs help
And give them more
Than you think you should
And do it
Right after you finish listening to this podcast
My guess would be
That you will experience
At least in that moment
You will experience the opening
Of that church window for a second
And hear the singing of angels
And it happens real quick
Maybe you'll go away
Maybe the window slams shut again
But all you need is for that fucking window
To open a few times
And once you know it exists
It always will
This has been
Just a wonderful conversation
Thank you so much for being on the show
How can people find you
Well
The main sort of creative thing I'm doing
Is this two-way cruise show
We make videos
Supposed to be comedy
It is hilarious
And we have a live show
At the satellite in Los Angeles
So we do that
Also my own person
So I exist out there on the internet
As well as here
Mikey Kampman
I'll have all the links online
Thank you so much for being on the show man
Thanks Duncan
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