Dynamic Dialogue with Danny Matranga - 212: The TOP 5 Cuisines for GAINS! Refeeds, soreness + MORE!
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Welcome, everybody, to another episode of the Dynamic Dialogue podcast. As always, I'm
your host, Danny Matrenga, and in today's episode, we're going to be going over five
of my favorite cuisines for eating out and expanding your kind of healthy lifestyle or
the lifestyle you have with food beyond the confines of the kitchen. So many people in
the health and fitness community enjoy cooking their own food. They're very mindful of what it is that they're
eating, but they want to branch out. Or they're somebody who loves food and wants to find ways
to incorporate healthier cuisines and healthier restaurant options into their routine. So we'll
talk a lot about food today. I'm also going to be answering some of your questions specifically to how to know when you should have
a refeed, how to know when it's time to start lifting weights if you've already been active,
but where do you start if you're looking to incorporate resistance training? This would
be good for anybody who's listening, who's trying to integrate that into somebody who
care about life. Maybe they're not active yet, but you'd like to encourage them to get more active.
And then we'll talk a little bit about how much soreness is too much soreness and what you might be able to do to manage and kind of take care of that. So again,
ranking the top five cuisines, as well as talking a little bit about my favorite dishes,
what makes these cuisines so good, and answering your questions.
But before we do that, I actually wanted to take some time to say thank you for leaving so many awesome reviews for the podcast. For me, it's a really big deal. Whenever you guys
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So I wanted to share some reviews from the iTunes store. Actually, these are just from Chartable,
so these could be from Spotify as well. But this one comes from Sterling B. Sterling says,
as a fitness coach, I appreciate the topics Danny discusses in each episode. It makes me think about
fitness and wellness in more ways. This is a must listen. Sterling, thanks a lot. And thanks a lot
to all the trainers who take the time to listen to this. I know that personal training and fitness coaching
can be a really competitive space with a lot of ego and to listen to anybody talk or to go out
and seek anybody's advice or expertise is awesome. So whenever I hear another fitness coach is
listening to this, and I know I've been doing it a long time and I know I know my shit, but
look, it's always flattering and I really appreciate that one. So thank you for that
one, Sterling. This one comes from Morgan and this one says, great podcast that comes out multiple
times a week, but isn't going to take all day to listen to. Useful info for all levels of fitness.
Love that he does Q&A episodes and takes the questions straight from his IG. Thanks, Danny.
Thank you, Morgan, for this really, really good review. I like that you like the bi-weekly podcast. I'm working on
ramping up from two to maybe even three times a week, guys. The podcast downloads have really
gone through the roof since I started going to a two-time, three-time-a-week frequency,
and I'm really, really excited about that. So I'm going to try to keep it up for you. I'm going to
do the absolute best I can. And this last one comes from Sarah J. Sarah says, keep up the great content, Danny,
a rarity and much appreciated gem of a podcast with the oversaturation of coaches out there
regurgitating the same Instagram tips. Thanks for helping us take our training and nutrition
to the next level with your podcast and these golden nuggets interspersed in each episode.
Thank you, Sarah. And again, thank you to each and every one of you who has taken time at any point to read or write,
I should say reviews for me to read on the podcast, but to write reviews, leave five-star
reviews. They really help this thing grow. And if you haven't yet, go ahead and leave one. It takes
one to two minutes. There's a link in the show notes, or you can just scroll down right there
on Apple. That's where most of you listen, according to my podcast server.
It shows me that most of you listen on iTunes
and on your iPhone in North America.
Although there are a surprising amount
of international listeners
and sometimes I pop up on trending charts.
Good thing I didn't say trending charts,
but trending charts in other countries
that I would not imagine anybody would ever listen to. So thank you for
that. And speaking of other countries, I think that's a really gentle, nice segue into talking
about and ranking my five favorite cuisines for eating healthy, finding nutritious food while
eating out protein-centric food. And I'm also going to be sharing with you my favorite dish
from each of
these cuisines. So we'll talk about what makes them good. We'll talk about why I like them,
what makes them unique. We'll rank them from five down to one, and then we'll get into your
questions. So number five on the list is Spanish food. And full disclosure, I am a Spaniard. I have
Spanish DNA. So there is a little bit of bias here, but I really do think that
Spanish food is unique. And again, I'm going to try to pick cuisines for the most part that I
don't think people go and have all the time. So typical American cuisines or more popular cuisines
like Chinese and Italian, I might be leaving out because those are kind of staple fixtures in
American culture,
and American cuisines includes things like California-style food as well as barbecue.
So trying to expand the repertoire a little bit for you guys to help you blend social life and
eating out and enjoying what food has to offer with your fitness lifestyle wherever you're at.
So many of these foods and cuisines will be good if your goals are building muscle,
if your goals are fat loss, if your goals are eating in a more nutritious fashion. So we'll unpack them all
slow. It'll be fun. But starting with five, Spanish food. I love Spanish food because one, most of the
dishes have a lot of protein, a lot of fish. You see a lot of peas. Sometimes you see beans.
There's a lot of unique herbs, spices, colors. You'll often see things like turmeric or saffron. So you see
these beautiful reds. There's a lot of olive oil and a lot of olives. And one of the things that
makes Spanish food particularly unique is it's very common to see tapas or small plates in Spanish
restaurants, which for those of you who are looking to lose body fat, but want flavorful calorie
friendly food, I have got to say Spanish
food is up there because of tapas. Tapas are awesome, awesome, awesome for getting a variety
of different foods and flavor profiles in front of you without the massive, wildly oversized
American portions that we're all used to. If you ever hang out or spend time with people who are
in America from other countries or have spent time in other countries, they will notice the difference in portion sizes here in America.
In addition to flavor and freshness and taste, people oftentimes look at portion sizes as being a big selling point for different restaurants and different cuisines.
People like generous portion sizes.
It's what we're used to, and Americans love to not just eat, but overeat.
And I find that this tends not to be as much of an issue in Spanish cuisine because of
the general popularity of tapas-style Spanish food here in America.
So if you want protein-centric small plates that pair well with things like wine, which
personally I don't drink, but I understand people like to enjoy that when they go out. I think Spanish food is great and it's a great date spot. It's a great
fun cuisine to have. If you like Mediterranean food, if you like olives, fish, rices, Spanish
is a great option, especially if you're looking for something new. My favorite Spanish dish is
paella, which is a seafood kind of prepared dish with usually vegetables, particularly things
you'll see often like tomatoes, rices. You'll sometimes see it done with chicken, but it's
usually done with a dish medley like scallop, whitefish, clam, shrimp. Really, really tasty.
Love me some paella. And if you're looking to lose body fat, you could always do more or less
rice to just limit the overall number of carbohydrates, but more importantly, calories.
Paella is my go-to, my favorite Spanish food.
Number four on the list is Thai food.
So of the conventional foods, conventional Asian foods that we think of in America, I
believe Chinese is still the most popular, Japanese a close second, Thai food probably
third.
Now, I know a lot of people
who aren't particularly big fans of Japanese and Thai food. Chinese food tends to be universally
fairly popular, but these are gaining popularity. But Thai food specifically is one that I really,
really like. Of all the foods on this list, I do think it is either the most or second most
vegetable-centric, meaning you will see a lot of vegetables in
popular Thai food options. For example, curries, some of the most popular Thai dishes, which are
usually made with coconut milk, various spices that impart these beautiful red, yellow colors.
You'll oftentimes see things like pumpkin curries. You'll oftentimes see things like peas, carrots,
and potatoes featured in these, which are very fibrous and some peas contain protein too. And chicken, like those are the kind of primary
dishes. There's tons of things added to them, like bean sprouts, peas, like I said already,
carrots, potatoes, peas, so many things included in there and amazing spices that you'll see
featured throughout the entire library of Thai cooking. Things like turmeric, lemongrass, ginger,
coriander, really nutritious herbs, spices, and flavors that are hard to get other places.
There's also a lot of garlic and onions, which we talked about on a recent episode,
the allium family, pretty nutritious, very, very flavorful. The condiments can be a little bit fat-centric. You will often see a lot of peanut
sauces and oil-based sauces, which might not be ideal, but tons of healthy options in Thai cooking.
Another thing I love about Thai is it's generally prepared very fresh. I find most Thai restaurants
prepare things fresh, and I find good Thai restaurants in every city I go to. That versatility
is huge if you're traveling and looking for something that's pretty quick and easy, and I find good Thai restaurants in every city I go to. That versatility is huge if you're
traveling and looking for something that's pretty quick and easy and I find it really holds well to
go. Of all the options on this list, I think this is right up there with number two in terms of how
well it travels if you need to get something on the go or you're looking for something quick. My favorite Thai cuisine,
if I'm on the healthy side, tends to be green papaya salad and some kind of curry, usually a yellow curry, a chicken yellow curry, because I know I'm going to be getting that beautiful turmeric.
I'm getting a little bit of rice. I'm getting peas, carrots, and potatoes, as well as a generous
serving of chicken. Now, if I'm just looking to enjoy what it is that I'm eating and I'm looking for my kind of go-to favorite thing, it's going to have to be chicken
pad thai. I love the thai noodle dishes. I think they're wonderful. And if you compare them to some
of the other noodle dishes, they can be a little more calorie friendly. But again, almost every
single thai dish is going to come with some combination of either
chicken, pork, usually you see a lot less pork, chicken, beef, shrimp, pork.
You'll find protein featured throughout the food.
And I just think it's one of the best.
And of the Asian foods, like I said, I think it's trending in its popularity.
But still, I know a lot of people who've never had Thai food.
So if you're looking to expand that way, got to try some Thai food. Warning for you there though, you might
notice the usage of certain peppers and spices to be quite potent. So if you are asked mild, medium,
spicy, or Thai spicy, do select mild and work your way up. It's always like a haircut when it comes
to spice. You can always
do a little more, but if you do too much at once, you're going to pay the price.
Number three on the list, another heritage plug here. And this is a unique one. I find very few
people have also tried this. And that is Greek food. I am a huge, huge fan of Greek food, not
just because of the olives and the olive oils and
the fish and the protein, but you find a lot of salads, a lot of low fat, high protein cheeses,
a lot of yogurt, a lot of lower fat, higher protein condiments like tzatziki. You see a
huge focus on vegetables and salad and a lot of protein. Of all of the food libraries,
meaning if you were to look at the entire kind of common menu, the aggregate of all the menus from all the restaurants that can prepare
these cuisines, I think Spanish and Greek would be the two that are generally the most quote-unquote
clean. Unless you're getting things like pita, and you'll often find gyro, which are not even
that bad. There's usually a lot of protein and vegetables in gyros, but unless you're getting like pita and hummus or french fries and
hummus, which you can get at a lot of Greek restaurants, particularly one of my go-tos,
Nick the Greek, a little semi-fast food Greek option here in the Bay Area, you're going to
find a ton of veggies, a ton of protein, and a ton of really, really good options. My go-to for
Greek food is kebabs. You can find a lot of
kebabs in Greek cooking. Lamb is quite common. There seems to be a Middle Eastern influence or
almost like a Lebanese influence within Greek cuisine. But those kebabs with a nice Greek
salad on the side with feta cheese and that beautiful Greek vinaigrette is amazing, very
calorie friendly and very, very tasty.
And if I was looking for more calories, I probably would add some pita and hummus because
pita and hummus are amazing.
Moving on to number two and number one, the reason that these two came out ahead isn't
necessarily because I like the libraries that much more, the total options of food, or I think they're
any healthier. The reason these two took number one and number two are for two reasons, popularity
and versatility. Popularity in that there are a ton of restaurants for both of these typings,
and they're generally quite popular with most people. So having these options and knowing what
to do in these situations is probably the most applicable to most people. And there's a lot of options and a lot of versatility in both of these menus that
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So number two on the list has got to be Mexican.
I know what a lot of you are thinking.
Mexican food's not healthy.
It's all oily and fatty and so high in calories and cheese and this and that. And yes, there are no shortage of Mexican dishes and Mexican foods and Mexican drinks that contain
a lot of calories. But there's also no singular food type that has more versatility than this one
right here, which is of course Mexican. You have got tons of options. There are ceviches,
which are literally just fish basically cooked with squeezed citrus. The acid kind of cooks it.
You have things like mocajete. You see a lot of fish. You see a lot of shrimp. You have
tacos, which can be prepared with one or two tortillas that are mostly protein. You have
enchiladas and tamales, which are usually loaded with protein. Yes,
they bring a lot of chips and salsa to the table, and that's probably suboptimal if you're snacking
on those things all the day, all the time with the calorie counts. Yes, the beer and the margaritas
can rack up fast, but there are a lot of really, really calorie-centric, calorie-friendly options.
If your goal is to bulk and build muscle, oh my goodness, things like burritos and taquitos, they can really rack it up.
So great option for that too. But you'll see protein in almost every dish. You see chicken,
you see fishes, you see shellfishes, shellfish and fish, not fishes, that's not a word.
You'll see beef, you'll see beans and rice, which make a nice combination of amino acids,
so you can at least get something from plant-based. I really, really like that Mexican foods like fajitas are
pretty much basically just seasoned vegetables grilled with protein. Some of the options are
so ridiculously clean and easy that you could literally go out to Mexican probably seven
nights a week. And as long as you're not drinking, pick a different option and still lose weight.
There's so many weight loss friendly options at Mexican that I think it just gets a kind
of an unfair reputation for being overly, quote unquote, fattening and overly high calorie.
I think there's a lot of good options and versatility when it comes to Mexican food.
My favorite Mexican food when I am eating eating quote unquote, whatever I want would probably be
birria tacos, which are sometimes made with goat. I hear in America, they're usually made with beef.
I like them with beef. Uh, but if I'm looking to, you know, be a little bit more on the healthy
side, love fajitas. And I'm a big fan of street tacos with just one tortilla instead of using
two moving to our final option on the list, guys,
number one, this might not surprise too many of you, but it is Japanese cuisine. Now, this includes
poke, this includes ramen, and of course, this includes sushi, but I am a huge fan of Japanese
cuisine because it features so many fatty cold water fish. And not only are those fish high in protein,
but they also come packed with wonderful omega-3 fatty acid. And there is very few places you can
get more omega-3 fatty acid than salmon, which is featured all the time in Japanese cooking.
Whether it's in poke or whether it's in sushi, you can get access to wonderful, wonderful fatty protein-rich salmon, as well as other
protein-rich fish like tuna or like yellowtail. There's also amazingly unique things thrown in
the mix like avocado, which is also featured in Mexican cooking, very nutrient-dense, and cucumber,
which is high in fiber, and salmon roe, which contains more of the omegas, all the different
fishes, the various sauces. Of course, you have
things like ramen, which are not quite so calorie friendly, but can oftentimes feature unique dishes
or unique flavors. I should say unique vegetables like mushrooms and root vegetables. You can find
some fun stuff in ramen. Poke is a very, very fun and unique style of combining like raw fish with
things like edamame and green onion and
rices and mixed greens. So you could actually do poke and poke bowls and make those pretty much
however you like. Those are an extremely versatile form of cooking. If you can handle and if you're
cool with raw fish, Japanese probably going to be number one on the option list, but it might not
be versatile enough. If you don't like raw fish though, you don't have to give up altogether. You do have teriyaki, which is
generally just grilled seasoned meats paired with vegetables and usually some rice. So Japanese had
to take the top spot, simple and easy. The one knock on it, and I do feel like I'm kind of splitting hairs here, it's terrible to go. It's not really easy
to take sushi to go. It's really hard. It's almost always better eaten there. Poke bowls are all
right for that. Ramen is all right for that, but I think it might've been the worst option on the
list when it comes to to go. So probably going to be your best bet if you're looking to go out.
This and Mexican give you a lot of versatility
But guys the top five in order were spanish
thai
greek
Mexican and japanese if you're not, you know a huge fan of those foods
But you're looking for healthier restaurant options. You could start there if you're looking at places that might be, you know
Uh, you know fit within your plan you like to eat out, but you also like nutrient
density, great options there. So moving on out of that rankings list and into your questions,
these were all fielded from my Instagram. You guys have the opportunity to ask me questions there. I
do throw up on my Instagram story at least twice a week, a question box where you guys can ask me
questions that I will answer
either on Instagram or here on the podcast. Full transparency, been a lot better about asking them
or answering them on the podcast. Just have not been spending a ton of time on social media lately.
Feeling a little busy and feeling a little run down by the kind of American political
theater that we're constantly dealing with. And I'm hopeful,
but I'm also distressed at times. And I lean left in certain areas and I lean right in other areas.
And the algorithm has figured that out. So it does feed me a lot of politics content,
which I try to avoid. So I have not been using social media as much. So this is where you'll
get your questions answered. And this one comes from underscore ewebster underscore.
And they ask, what is my opinion on refeed days when in a deficit? So I think refeed days can be effective.
And essentially what refeeds are, or they are days during a deficit at which you go
back to maintenance, usually by raising carbs so that you can take a small break from the
diet for psychological and physiological reasons.
I have talked to a good friend of the show, Lyle McDonald, about this many times on the show.
He recommends two-day refeeds for women, one- to two-day refeeds for men, where you bring the
carbs up to maintenance. Everything else I've seen makes me believe that that tends to be pretty
sound advice. Now, what's my opinion on refeeds? I think that refeeds can be good if you know you
have a lot of weight to lose. Let's say you opinion on refeeds? I think that refeeds can be good if you know you have a
lot of weight to lose. If you know that maybe, like let's say you do your refeed Saturday and
Sunday and you know that Monday and Tuesday you have a lot of travel, a lot of steps, a lot of
hard workouts, a lot of output. They can be timed really easily because they're short. They're
usually, like I said, one to two days. They're not too cumbersome. You're just elevating your
carb intake to hopefully get you back to maintenance. They might be valuable to throw in here and there because there is some
literature that shows taking diet breaks, which are basically just longer periods at maintenance,
a little longer than a two-day refeed, that can be beneficial for mitigating the
down-regulation of metabolism that happens from prolonged dieting. So when you diet for a long
time, you're in a deficit for a long time, your body will try to adapt and constrain its energy
output to fit within the deficit. So slowly you'll experience adaptations. If taking diet
breaks can help mitigate that, perhaps refeeds can too. So a versatile tool in the toolbox.
Now, here's where it will bite you in the ass if you're trying to be in a deficit for fat loss, is if you aren't measured and calculated with that refeed. If you just eat
whatever the fuck you want and go, oh, it's a refeed day, you could erase four to five days
of being in a small deficit with one big refeed. So it does behoove anyone whose goal for refeeding is to make fat loss easier in the long run
to be mindful and calculated when reintroducing calories for these plant refeeds.
And I do think that carbohydrates are the things to add back in because they have the
greatest likelihood of increasing performance in the gym and having that psychological and
physiological reaction with leptin and ghrelin,
your hunger satiety signals. So that's how I'd handle that. All right. This question from at
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should you do? Well, here's what I'd recommend for anybody who's new. And again, guys, feel free to
share this part of the podcast with somebody who you know, who's new to fitness, who's looking for
where to start. I trained a lot of people in my fitness career, uh, and a good chunk of them have never lifted weights before in their lives. So I
have a, a formula or a protocol, if you will, for novices and beginners that I think is really,
really effective, really quick, really easy. And so the first is we're probably only going to train
two to four days a week. If we train two days a week, it's going to be total body, three days a
week, total body, four days a week, upper, lower. So commit to two to four days. Those sessions can
be anywhere from 20 to 60 minutes, no longer than that, because we don't want to overextend what we
ask of you. If we're doing total body sessions, so we're going to do days two or three a week,
two to three days a week, we need to make sure that in these workouts, we feature an exercise that simulates the
squat.
So that can be a bodyweight squat for a complete novice.
It can be a leg press for somebody who lacks stability.
It can be a goblet squat for somebody who's ready for free weights.
It can be a barbell squat for somebody who is ready for the barbell.
Know your fitness level.
Trust yourself.
Select the option that is the most or least in this case intimidating, begin there.
How many reps? Can be anywhere between 12 to 15. For novices, I do recommend higher repetition
ranges so you can rehearse the movement with lower RPE or exertion, lower proximity to failure.
Don't train to failure when you're brand new. So we need a movement that emulates the squat.
Don't train to failure when you're brand new. So we need a movement that emulates the squat.
Ideally, we could practice the hinge or the deadlift or hinging at the hips. So RDLs or deadlifts or kettlebell deadlifts are great options. Even a hip thrust can count as a hinge.
We should try to train a push, like a pushup or an overhead press or a pull, like a row or a pull
down. We want to train all of the muscles of the body evenly, symmetrically, and equally. Okay. We don't
want to allocate too much volume to any one muscle group. We want to spread it out. We want to avoid
too many isolation movements if they get in the way of doing compound movements. So we want to
move multiple joints and multiple muscle groups. That way we can build something called intramuscular
coordination and intermuscular coordination, meaning we're not just
training the coordination of the muscle fibers in one muscle to fire together, but of multiple
muscle groups to fire in concert to perform complex movements. This is good for your brain.
This is good for your body. This is good for coordination. And I think that if you simplify
your training into doing mostly compound movements, either three times a week, total body,
or four times a week, upper lower, of course, you'd have two days for upper compound movements, either three times a week, total body, or four times a week,
upper lower. Of course, you'd have two days for upper body movements, two days for lower body
movements. You might be able to sprinkle in some more isolation work, but starting small,
somewhere between six to 10 total sets per muscle group per week. So if you're training three times
a week, total body, you might do four leg exercise sets per day, four push sets per day, four pull sets per day.
And you'll get about 12 a week and that'd be wildly epic and awesome. And you'll build so
much results over that compared to doing nothing. It's remarkable. It'll blow your freaking mind.
But the best advice I could give you is to start slow, be patient, focus on the compound movements,
12 to 15 reps, all the rest you need to make sure each
set is done well, about two seconds up, about two seconds down. If you're too sore to train,
take an extra day, go for a walk, be in the sun, try to get from two to three days a week,
up to four to five days a week, assuming you've built enough momentum, and then just eventually
do what you can to up the intensity and proximity to
failure. Because over time, to continue to make progress, the work that you do in the gym needs
to be hard, it needs to be intentional, it needs to be meaningful. And the more coordinated and
comfortable you get, the closer it will and the easier it will be to train to failure without
getting hurt. I don't think you ever have to train to failure if your goal is just general fitness. And then save a little time for some aerobic work or cardio work
on the front or back end of that to warm up slash cool down and definitely create some time for some
core and direct abdominal training and stretching to remain strong and loose in the areas you'd like
to be. That's like the condensed elevator pitch for how to train. If you've never trained before,
then you're looking to build a foundation. Okay. Last question comes from JC Lund and she asks,
going through your physique guide right now, how sore is too sore to work out? So JC first,
thanks for joining. Uh, you might be an elite physique, which is the app based program,
or you're doing one of the female physique guides from the website, whether that's female physique,
app-based program, or you're doing one of the female physique guides from the website, whether that's female physique one and two foundations or, um, power build. There's also the app-based
programs, home heroes. For those of you guys training at home and elite physique, for those
of you girls who are looking to take your physique to the next level in the gym. So those are all
available at the link in the description of the podcast, or you can just go to corecoachingmethod.com
and navigate the tabs there. But how sore is too sore to work out? I have a very, very simple test for this. If I poke a muscle
and push on a muscle, and it is tangibly sore to the touch, immediately, too sore to train.
If I contract a muscle, and before I even reach the fully shortened position, it is aching,
meaning it's not fully contracted yet, but it's still really aching, too sore to train. If I can touch it and massage it a little bit,
and I get light to moderate pain, or I can flex it with light to moderate pain,
probably good to go. And anything less than that, I'm letting it rip. So that's kind of how I gauge
soreness. And if you are wondering like, okay, am I ready to train? Am I not ready to train?
One thing you can do is you can go to the gym.
You can just start moving.
And if the soreness doesn't dissipate within like five to 10 minutes or one to two warm
upsets, just do a recovery session where maybe you do some low grade cardio, some stretching,
pivot to a muscle group that's not sore and just adjust your programming.
Maybe hit the sauna, maybe do a cold bath, whatever.
But that's how I would approach soreness.
All right, guys, that's going to do it for this episode. I want to thank you so much for
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