Dynamic Dialogue with Danny Matranga - 63 - The 4 Biggest Nutrition Pitfalls I See
Episode Date: August 21, 2020In this episode, we talk all about nutrition and how Danny looks at nutrition! We touch base on the biggest mistakes and how to troubleshoot these problems to improve our lifestyle!---Thanks For Liste...ning!---RESOURCES/COACHING:I am all about education and that is not limited to this podcast! Feel free to grab a FREE guide (Nutrition, Training, Macros, Etc!) HERE!Interested in Working With Coach Danny and His One-On-One Coaching Team? Click HERE!Want To Have YOUR Question Answered On an Upcoming Episode of DYNAMIC DIALOGUE? You Can Submit It HERE!Want to Support The Podcast AND Get in Better Shape? Grab a Program HERE!----SOCIAL LINKS:Follow Coach Danny on INSTAGRAMFollow Coach Danny on TwitterFollow Coach Danny on FacebookGet More In-Depth Articles Written By Yours’ Truly HERE!-----TIMESTAMPS:Information about PowerBuild Program 1:41Not Relying Enough on SINGLE Ingredient Foods 5:28Not ACCURATELY Counting Calories 9:48Over Reliance on Supplements 19:40Eating out at restaurants TOO MUCH 25:30Support the Show.
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Back in to another episode of the Dynamic Dialogue podcast.
I am your host, Danny Matrenga, and as always, this is your one-stop shop for quick, informational,
educational, evidence-based fitness, nutrition, performance-enhancing tips.
Today's episode is going to be all about nutrition.
going to be all about nutrition. More specifically, it's going to be about four common nutrition problems I see in my coaching practice. So this isn't going to be an episode where I highlight
problems with specific nutritional ideologies like veganism or where I take on a particular macronutrient like protein or carbohydrates.
Instead, it's going to be an opportunity for me to share insights directly from my coaching
practice. So what that means for you, if you're somebody who's new to all this and just wants to
get in better shape, this is going to be an amazing opportunity for you to learn from the mistakes some of my clients have made and from a lot of what is my job to fix as a coach.
I'm also, for those of you who are more hobbyists and enthusiasts, going to share this from a standpoint of, hey, here's how you can troubleshoot this in your own, you know, kind of conventional practice of fitness. And then for you coaches and practitioners, you're going to also kind of get my coaching view and lens with how and kind of you'll see how I
deliver this in the podcast today. So there's lots of really cool stuff to talk about today,
specifically with nutrition. We'll get to that in a minute. And again, those are four of the
most common nutritional problems I see as a coach in my practice. But before we get to that, let me give you a little update on
kind of all things where I'm at. So I'm getting closer to launching the Power Build program.
I talked about it a little bit on one of my recent podcasts, but we're putting it,
the finishing touches on it now. So again, it's a 12-week program, three specific blocks,
one that's more of a linear progression-based maximal strength phase,
followed by a block that is conjugate-based, takes inspiration from Louis Simmons,
and it's got some elements of speed and power built in.
And any of you who've been following me for a while, you'll know I like power, even with Gen Pop clients.
I like power work. I think it's fun. I think if performed properly, it has a ton of applications. I think there's a really good way to integrate it into almost
anyone's program if you have half of an ounce of creativity as a coach. And it's something that not
a lot of people train. So I know that this particular block in PowerBuild is going to be a
really, really fun one for those who do it. And then the last block is a hypertrophy block but there's also the
inclusion of specialization days so it's a four day upper lower split across the first eight weeks
between the traditional strength phase and that kind of hybrid power phase but the last day is a
four day a week hypertrophy program with a specialization day. So at the end of the entire 12 weeks, that 8, 9,
10, 11, 12, those last four weeks, right, or 9, 10, 11, 12, you're going to be able to include
a specialization workout to help bring up any lagging body part you want. And they're all
baked into the program. And they're all baked in with the kind of understanding that, hey,
we need to monitor volume, we want to optimize recovery. So the programming is set up to reflect a higher percentage of volume towards those muscle groups
you want to polish up in that last hypertrophy block with a specialization block for glutes and
hamstrings, quads, pecs, lats, arms, and delts. So pretty much what everybody's looking to develop.
And I shouldn't say lats, I should say back. And so that's that. If you hear my phone buzzing at all, it's because I'm recording this podcast
kind of in the middle of some of these Northern California fires that we've become all too
accustomed to. If you're from California, you know what I'm talking about. If you're not,
you might have at least seen them on the news. I think on a recent podcast, I brought up the
fact that we had crazy lightning, and then we had crazy rain,
and then the next day or two, we had crazy wildfires. So California goes pretty hard with
the inclement weather, and my phone buzzes quite a bit because they're doing evacuations across
Sonoma County, which is quite broad. I'm not in the evacuation zone. I'm not going to hype up like
I am. I'm in a spot that apparently seems quite safe. The sky is still
relatively blue. There was a bunch of ash on my plants this morning, but the wind can bring that
in, so I feel pretty safe. But the buzzing is constant because they're evacuating zone by zone,
and all the kind of phones in the county get an alert when they evacuate one zone, even if that's
not your zone. So to all the first responders and firefighters out there,
thank you very much for keeping this thing at bay as best you can.
I know it's not fun.
I'm sure it's a hell of a lot harder than what I'm doing right now, recording a podcast.
But if you're listening, you are appreciated.
So without further ado, now that the housekeeping is done,
see, this is why I would have normally put a co-host right here
if I had like a co-host.
They would be saying some banterous, funny, humorous things.
But you, you, my dear listener, are my co-host
because this is about me and you right now.
We're going to talk about the four most common nutrition problems I see,
and I bet you do them, or you're a coach.
I bet your clients do them.
Hobbyist, you probably do them from time to time,
and you know that you do them, but you don't want to talk about it.
But we'll just call it like it is.
The number one thing I see far and away, far and away,
is not relying heavily enough on single ingredient foods
when it comes to putting your diet together.
Relying too much on processed foods, packaged foods, prepackaged foods.
We'll talk all about that in a
minute but the over reliance on other shit has pulled us away from perhaps the single most
fundamental easy to change step with i shouldn't say easy to change bang for your buck thing with
nutrition and that is this if you made sure that the bulk of your foods that you consumed
were created by you put put together by you,
using mostly single ingredient foods, you would do pretty damn amazing. What do I mean by that?
And I'll give you a meta example. That means instead of for dinner, instead of having like a
pre-packaged salad with a pre-packaged dressing that contains a myriad of ingredients, a box of pre-packaged
pasta paired with a, you know, pre-pulled chicken that's been frozen that you're thawing out. Who
knows? Versus saying instead, I'm going to have for dinner, steamed broccoli. That's one ingredient.
I'm going to have seared ahi tuna, whatever. It sounds good. That's another single ingredient. And I'm going to have baked sweet potato with grass fed butter. Okay, random as hell. Very bro diet, right? Protein, sweet potato and broccoli. who is perhaps still somewhat focused on calories and macros might go out and have a decently
macro-friendly meal, but there's a massive reliance on either processed foods, prepackaged
foods, or multi-ingredient foods, which in context might be healthier than how most people
eat.
But this movement away from single-ingredient foods can become problematic.
Simply being able to prepare foods that are healthful
in their natural form where they're fully nutritious, they have all their fiber,
they've yet to be processed. You know, there's a lot of nutritional errors that we can kind of
manage simply by aiming for more single ingredient foods. Aiming for a greater percentage of single
ingredient foods in the diet is going to minimize the consumption of processed foods for obvious reasons. None of those in many cases are single or even double ingredient
foods, right? It's going to minimize how often we eat out, which we'll talk a little bit more about
later. But aiming to consume more single ingredient foods, I think is a really good idea. And it pulls
people away from the other bullshit, which is only eat clean food. Okay,
well, we don't necessarily know what clean is. Clean is contextual. For one person, a kale chip,
like which are these little fried strips of kale, might be clean compared to a potato chip. But for
another person, they might go, well, it's just kale, but it's fried in highly inflammatory oils.
And so then to that person, that is not a
healthy option. So we don't need to bring semantics into this. Focusing on single ingredient foods
kind of removes our natural tendency to gravitate towards things that have a lot of stuff added to
them and might be processed. And overall, if body composition and long-term health is of value to
you, focusing on more single ingredient foods might be a positive
outcome driven way that you can improve the quality of your nutrition in the long run.
And it's one that I think is very easy to understand contextually, even more so perhaps
than something like counting macros or even counting calories.
Doing that can be arduous and sometimes off-putting to novices, which we never want.
And so telling somebody, hey, I want you to focus on using mostly whole foods and trying to prepare them as is.
And see if you can simplify your diet by doing that.
You know, you have some lean proteins lying around, some quality carbohydrates that are also nutritious lying around,
some veggies lying around, some fruits lying around, maybe some herbs lying around. That's what you got at the grocery store.
Make something with those things. Tell me how it is. You know, tell me how full you are. Tell me
what those calories end up being. Nine times out of ten, it's more nutritious, generally more
macro-friendly, and a little bit less stress than a lot of the ways people end up eating. So that's
a really easy, quick one that you can implement
that I think not enough people do.
So number two is for people who are a bit more advanced.
And, you know, even if you're advanced,
like in the context I'm about to describe,
you could still focus on single ingredient foods.
But number two is not accurately accounting for all calories.
I'm a big fan of calorie counting i know it doesn't
work for everybody i know you could make the argument that for some people it's you know at
at the root of it it could cause some disordered eating tendencies that down the road might not
be ideal i'm not here to argue that i understand that no nutritional protocol is perfect and i
don't think that you can change or modify your behavior in any way without having some type of consequence, sometimes positive, sometimes unintendedly negative,
right? I'm not here to argue that. But what I will say is I have found it to be very effective
with my clients. My clients get great results tracking their calories and accounting for the
amount of energy they're putting into their body as a means of losing body fat or gaining muscle.
It's been very effective for me. Here's where there are shortcomings though, because again, nothing's
perfect. People have a tendency to over represent or over report how much they move in a day.
And they tend to under report how much they eat in a day. So let's talk about how this could be
functionally problematic for people who are looking to lose weight. They want to get leaner and they think they're doing
things right with calories, but it's not quite working. So most people will set up their macros
using an online calculator or they'll use an app and these apps and calculators use activity
multipliers. So what these activity multipliers do when you calculate your calories,
or when you calculate your macros, you need to figure out approximately what your total daily
energy expenditure is. And your total daily energy expenditure is a lump of a bunch of different
things, your base metabolic rate, your exercise activity thermogenesis, your non exercise activity
thermogenesis, your the thermic effect of food you eat, a lot of different stuff.
And so when people input data into these calculators,
what's my age, what's my height,
what's my activity level, ends up coming up.
And there's often options from sedentary to highly active.
And in my experience, people tend to, to no fault of their own, or perhaps
there's a little bit of humorous baked into this, they select an activity level that they think they
have, but it's not one that truly represents their actual activity level. And it can be quite simple.
And by quite simple, I mean this. You might see that the activity multiplier button that's labeled active says active describes people
who work with their hands or work outside. And you might read that and go, well, you know, I work
outside sometimes. When quite in fact, you're not very active, but you end up selecting active
because you see the term you identify as active. Very few people ever select activity multipliers
below their actual activity, meaning people who move a lot tend to be spot on, but people who do
not move a lot tend to oftentimes select an activity multiplier on one of these online calculators that
puts them a little high. And so the problem with this is you might be counting calories, but you
might be shooting an arrow at a target that's in the wrong place. So that's the first problem,
right? And we end up over-reporting our activity level through error on the front end. Another
thing people tend to do that's quite silly is they add back in calories
from wearables like Fitbits or Apple Watches. They go, hey, well, my wearable says I burned 300
calories during that workout. By the way, the wearables are incredibly inaccurate too. If you
get anything from this second one, it's that people and devices cannot be trusted to be accurate on
a whole hell of a lot of occasions. Anyway, the wearable spits out
a number that the person burned and they go, oh, I burned 400 calories. Then they go, well, I'm
supposed to eat 1600 plus the 400 I burned. That's 2000. Well, the 1600 number you calculated using
that activity multiplier that you might have been wrong about originally, now you're adding calories
back in on top of that. And so people end up way off.
So that's the first issue going into it is people don't do the accounting work properly on the setup.
When it comes to actually tracking the food, let's say hypothetically, you nailed your macros and
your calorie intake targets. Everything is perfect. So long as you hit these macros,
you hit these calories, you're going to lose weight, get
ripped, get shredded.
You've perfected it.
You did the ultimate accounting on the front end.
All you need to do is weigh your food on the food scale, measure it in cups, whatever you
typically do to count your calories.
Maybe you do serving sizes of some prepackaged foods because you haven't heard the first
tip of this episode yet.
That's fine.
The funny thing is, as long as like people could
nail the front end and know all they had to do is track perfectly. And I've set people up pretty
damn close and been like, hey, all you got to do is track perfectly and you'll probably get
right up to that target we're aiming for. They still can't do it. And that's and it's been shown
in the science. This isn't to discourage you. If anything, it should make you maybe go, okay, cool.
I'm not the only person who makes these mistakes.
I can strive to get better.
Because you can totally get results with not perfect tracking.
And that's not what I'm saying.
I'm not trying to give you an all or nothing here.
But the evidence is clear, and I've seen it quite a bit in my practice.
When left to their own devices to track people have a tendency
to eyeball things to underweigh things to make small miscalculations that end up well that the
end result would actually be them gaining fat but they end up consuming a little bit more calories
than they had originally intended sometimes it's through no fault of their own.
Sometimes it's getting a little bit lazy,
and instead of weighing the food, they eyeball it,
and there might be a conscious decision in there
when they look at it and they go,
oh, that's a little bit more than a tablespoon.
Oh, it's okay, I deserve it.
You know, that stuff happens.
Literally everybody does it, myself included.
But these are the issues I've seen that hold people back i'm not calling anybody
out who does this because i'm not going to stand on my high horse and say that i fucking don't i
certainly do shit happens part of the reason i know to look out for this stuff is because i make
these mistakes and one of the things that i found out in the industry that's quite common is when
you have an issue or a problem and you decide to communicate to somebody about it, whether it's another coach, another trainer,
or a client, a lot of times they'll go, oh my gosh, I thought I was the only person who did that.
It's nice to know you do it too. And after enough of those, you realize, oh my gosh,
human beings have some relatively consistent behaviors that pop up if you leave them to
their own devices. And under-reporting their caloric intake happens to be one of those things. Especially if you have a cognitive bias
of like, hey, I'm trying to lose weight and I want to eat this. And if it's a smaller portion,
which I could technically eyeball, or when I eyeball them, I usually get more than when I
weigh them out. You know, those cognitive biased moments can hold you back. So being aware of them and me
communicating to you that they might be problematic is a real deal. And coaches, one of the issues
that comes up a lot with this is like, okay, I calculated my client's macros perfectly. I know
exactly how many calories they should eat, right? And I gave them these calories and they tell me
they're hitting them and they're not losing weight. They got to be overtracking They've got, they've got to be under reporting. I know they're under reporting.
I know they're sneaking out. I, I saw on their fucking Instagram story that they went out and
they were drinking. And you know, I, people tell me this stuff. Coaches reach out and tell me this
go, Hey, how do I communicate that to my client without sounding like, Hey, I know you're lying
to me about what you're eating. I, you know, and one of the ways you can do this is you can say,
Hey, could you send me some pictures
of everything you eat today that you track i want to get a little bit of a visual representation of
what your plate looks like and then you might hold them accountable to the portion control
in that mechanism because they go oh snap i can't you know i can't squeeze this one by coach if i
have to send them a picture right so that's thing. Another thing that you can do that I really like
is just try and be straightforward.
And people go, man, you know, I'm eating the calories,
but I'm not losing the weight.
You say something, you know, scientific,
evidence-based, practical, and optimistic,
which is, hey, one of the things
that I run into a lot in my practice
and that shows up quite a bit in the literature
and that shows up quite a bit just around from people I know is a lot of times we think we're
eating the right amount of calories, but we're actually underreporting. And you can attach one
of these studies, right? When you share this with your client or, you know, look, they put these
people in a metabolic ward and they track their calories and sure as shit, they underreport it
consistently.
Most of the people in the group did.
And then you go, you know, I've seen it a lot.
It's not uncommon.
I just want to be sure you're tracking everything.
Are you sure you're using your food scale?
You're this and you're that perfectly.
And nine times out of ten, they're going to say,
well, now that you mention it,
there have been a couple times where I didn't break out my food scale, which is just code for, yeah, there was probably a couple times where maybe I ordered
a pizza and didn't tell you about it. But that is neither here nor there. The important thing is
having that moment with that client where you choose to be honest with each other about at
what level they're executing and you give them the opportunity to move forward. So you say, hey,
cool, well, let's try that. Or, hey, cool, that's going to be the new expectation,
is that you really do weigh things out thoughtfully and thoroughly.
That's going to be big.
And so, guys, that's number two, just doing the math wrong, straight up.
Number three, an over-reliance on supplementation.
And I'm going to be very specific about what supplements
and why I think an over-reliance on them is bad. Now, before I get into this, let me say this first.
I take all of these supplements. So I know what I'm talking about from a mechanistic standpoint.
These are mistakes that I've made. These are supplements that I recommend to my clients. But here's why I'm talking about the over-reliance on them and not the supplements
themselves. So I have greens powder, but I don't take it every day. I have fish oil, but I don't
take it every day. I have whey protein, and I don't drink it every day. But here's where we're going.
When you rely so heavily on a supplement like a multivitamin, a greens powder, that you don't eat real greens, that's a problem. When you rely so heavily on fish oil to get omega-3 that you don't eat omega-3 rich foods eat an adequate amount of protein, that could become a problem.
And the reason I say problem is this.
When I take a greens powder, I'm getting a lot of nutrition and I'm getting a lot of really good things into my body in a convenient way.
Pause.
But hear me out.
You're missing out on some stuff, right? You're going
to miss out on the fiber. You miss out on some of the phytonutrients. You miss out on the ability
to incorporate more high volume foods into your diet. High volume foods like green vegetables,
cruciferous vegetables, all of that stuff has the ability to add a lot of water, a lot of fiber,
and not a lot of calories. And so if you're somebody who's in a deficit, like, sure, go ahead, take a greens powder, by all means. But why? Why
would you? You know, you could just as easily eat those greens and be way more full, get all that
fiber, have more food on your plate. That's a plus. But this reliance on supplements, not only do we miss out on the fiber and some of those phytos, but it also mechanistically makes us worse for fat loss.
Like if the only green vegetables you're getting in your diet when you're on a deficit
are from a greens powder, you're making it harder than it has to be. Period. Straight up. When in doubt, if you're hungry, eat some greens. That stuff fills you up.
Okay, another one with the fish oils. Yes, fish oils, very healthful omega-3 fats are good. I'm
not saying don't supplement with them. However, you can get a lot of really good nutrition from
an egg, from a piece of flax something, muffin, whatever. I don't
eat a lot of flax. It's not that good. I'm not even going to lie. But if you like it, it's very
nutritious. From salmon, loaded with protein, loaded with magnesium, all kinds of good stuff.
And if you choose to say, yeah, I supplement with omega-3 like two to three times a week and I eat
these foods two to three times a week. These foods, of course, being omega-3 rich foods, you're going to pick up some of the other stuff, the folate from the egg, the protein from the egg, the protein from the salmon, the magnesium from the salmon, the B vitamins from the flax bread, the fiber from the flax bread, all kinds of good stuff. And then you can spread your supplements out, make them last a little bit longer. Full disclosure, I work with a supplement company, Legion Athletics.
Love you guys.
But I don't take a full dosage of their multivitamin every day because I get a very nutritious diet.
I take a half dosage.
I think a full dosage is incredible.
Sometimes I do, especially when I'm traveling or I'm stressed.
But I take a half dosage on other days because I know I'm getting a lot of those
from whole foods. And that to me is really, really important. And then I'm sure you're getting the
drift, but with protein specifically, whey protein is a byproduct of the milk production industry.
So let's just paint a very, very, very simplified picture of it when you're making
cheese you separate curds from whey and when you have that leftover whey a lot of times that gets
packaged and sold as whey protein whey protein isolate whey protein concentrate whey protein
hydrolysis different ways of different purity levels that contain more or less the same amount
of protein, but not a ton of additional nutrition. And I'm not saying that all protein is nutritious
because like ground turkey and ground chicken, there's not a lot to work with there. But you
know, when we talk about things like fish and shellfish and red meat and organ meat and even
some of the plant-based sources of protein are quite
nutritious. There's a lot of things we get from consuming animal protein, and I'm not saying we
have to consume a ton. I'm not saying we have to be unethical. But if all of the protein or the
bulk of the protein we eat in one day comes from whey, right, which whey doesn't even have the same
benefits as other dairy proteins like yogurt. There's a lot of good things in yogurt,
but it has to do with the process by which it's gone. It goes through to make it the way it is.
We're missing out on stuff. So, you know, I really caution people against the over-reliance on these
things because I think it pulls you away from nutritional and dietary strategies that make it
a little bit easier to live a leaner lifestyle, to eat a lot
of the right foods, to have variety. I don't love vegetables, but having vegetables in my diet can
make my diet more enjoyable. I'm not going to sit down and eat a plate of just vegetables,
but adding the right vegetables to the right protein can be a really great combination.
You limit yourself from that if you just straight up don't eat vegetables and only
take greens or don't cook proteins and only drink whey protein. That's where you run into a problem.
Okay, last issue that I just see straight up way too often. Eating out at restaurants too much.
Look, if your goal is fat loss, right? And for anybody listening, that's kind of the audience
I'm going for with this podcast. If your goal is fat loss, eating out at restaurants is one of the worst things you can do consistently.
I think it's great from time to time, and I think it's awesome to be able to be flexible.
But 9 out of 10 times when you sit down at a restaurant, you are getting a very large portion,
much larger than you would probably make at your own home,
with a very hefty
portion of oftentimes hyperpalatable high calorie sides. You're getting food that was cooked in
all kinds of different oils in an effort to make it as flavorful as possible. You're getting
oftentimes the fattiest cuts of meat in an effort to, again, make things as flavorful as possible.
Before this food even gets to your table,
you're oftentimes snacking on something first,
like appetizers, bread, or chips.
This can be problematic.
If controlling your calorie intake is something that matters to you, you have very little wiggle room when you end up eating out at restaurants a lot
because those dishes are so high calorie.
In fact, the average restaurant dish,
if I remember correctly, has north of about a thousand calories, which is quite a bit. When you
think about how many calories are in the foods you typically create at home, I don't think the answer
is going to be about a thousand calories. And that's just for your typical restaurant entree,
right? And it's those things I mentioned with regards to the way the food is sourced,
types of foods they bring in, the way it's cooked, and the portions
that really kind of make it problematic.
You can go to a restaurant, see something on the menu like Applebee's, for example.
I always pick on Applebee's.
But you see Chinese chicken salad, and somebody sees that, and they go,
well, hey, Chinese chicken salad,
that's probably kind of healthy. It's a salad and has chicken on it. Well, they use fried chicken,
which has a lot of extra calories from added fats. And I'm not demonizing fried chicken. I love
fried chicken. And they use like these fried chicken nugget balls that are more bread than
meat. So they have a lot more added fat and carbohydrate and they're quite dense
and they use a ton of them on top of a salad that's mostly like just crap lettuce loaded with
peanuts like a peanut dressing and a bunch of additional added calories and so this salad
ends up coming out to about 1100 calories and I've never in my life seen someone at their home build an 1,100-calorie salad.
Like, we don't put food together that way.
It's hard.
The way that a lot of these dining places put food together
is with the goal of it being as tasty and enjoyable as possible.
And I think that's great.
But if your goal is fat loss, hyper palatable, high calorie
foods aren't something you should build into your diet all the time. And going out and eating those
types of things at restaurants oftentimes creates like the worst kind of case scenario where you end
up with a really, really high calorie food. you end up eating the entire portion, which is
oftentimes oversized to begin with, and then you're setting yourself back. So those are the four
things, guys, that I see the most. And just to reiterate and circle the wagons, not eating enough
single ingredient foods, focusing too much on stuff out of packages and out of bags, okay?
Over relying on supplements instead of focusing on trying to get
and receive nutrition from the foods you select primarily
and aiming for foods that are generally nutritious
in place of just relying on supplements.
Number two is improper math.
Here, just straight.
Not doing the right math.
Either being too lazy to do it right on the front end
or too lazy to carry it out on the back end. And then the fourth and final one, and it's probably
the most obvious, is eating out too much. Look, if you're somebody who wants to get leaner,
you can eat out, but you can't eat out all the time and get results as quickly as you could if
you got more comfortable cooking from home, using more single ingredient foods, tracking your calories, yada, yada, yada.
It all ties together.
Hey, everybody, thank you so much for listening.
I really do appreciate it.
These quick nutritional blurbs are fun.
I try to keep them light and off the cuff.
I don't love overly produced podcasts.
I think that the authenticity piece often gets lost
in the, you know, search for showmanship and oftentimes forced banter.
But I would eventually love to get back into a place where I was bringing guests on for you.
So stay tuned for that. I am working towards that as we speak.
But in the meantime, go back and peruse the awesome library of episodes we have.
And check out the program page as I get closer and closer
to the launch of Power Build. Female Physique is still on the website as is Foundations and
my home program. Thank you guys so much for listening. I appreciate you. Have an awesome day.