Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 118: What Did Your Dog Name You? | Ear Biscuits Ep. 118

Episode Date: October 30, 2017

Rhett & Link are going back down the rabbit hole to discuss what dogs call their owners, pet ownership, and why Link is so okay with dog poop in the house on this week's Ear Biscuits. Follow This Is ...Mythical: Facebook: http://facebook.com/ThisIsMythical Instagram: http://instagram.com/ThisIsMythical Twitter: http://twitter.com/ThisIsMythical Other Mythical Channels: Good Mythical Morning: https://www.youtube.com/user/rhettandlink2 Good Mythical MORE: https://youtube.com/user/rhettandlink3 Rhett & Link: https://youtube.com/rhettandlink Hosted By: Rhett & Link Executive Producer: Stevie Wynne Levine Managing Producer: Cody D'Ambrosio Production Manager: Jacob Moncrief Technical Director: Meggie Malloy Editor: Meggie Malloy & Ty Schmieder Graphics: Matthew Dwyer Set Design/Construction: Cassie Cobb Content Manager: Becca Canote Logo Design: Carra Sykes To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Link. And I'm Rhett. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we are going down the rabbit hole. Again. Once again. Yes, right here on this white envelope that I can't read what's in the note card underneath.
Starting point is 00:00:25 There is a sealed topic that will start us on a conversation that will lead who knows where because we don't even know where it starts. Well, it's in here but we don't know what it is. Somebody pointed out that on social media, you know, I'm not much of a social media guy. That's an inside joke, so I'm not even gonna explain it. Keep it inside.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yeah, just between you and me. And just between you and me, it's not that great of a joke. It's not even that great of a joke. It just happened. You don't wanna know it. I know you're frustrated. I heard somebody say, "' isn't it a rabbit trail?
Starting point is 00:01:09 Well, that's a good question, and the good answer is no. But what's the difference between a rabbit trail and a rabbit hole? A rabbit trail. You gotta go down the rabbit trail to get to rabbit hole. I don't waste our time with that. A rabbit trail is when you're talking about one thing
Starting point is 00:01:20 and then you get sidetracked by talking about another thing, which is clearly not what we're gonna be doing today. Right, so the distinction is. That was a joke, that's exactly what we're gonna be doing today. Right, so the distinction is- That was a joke, that's exactly what we're doing today. No, no, no, no, no, I thought you were actually setting up a good point. I know you're not a big social media guy, but just stay, I'm gonna keep using it, just stay with me.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It's becoming an inside joke for all of us, even though you don't know how it originated. Now you're in on it. Can I just say that I sent a message just to an old friend asking for his email and I sent it through a social media service. Tell the whole story. I can't, I don't wanna tell the whole story
Starting point is 00:01:52 because I don't know how it's gonna end yet. Well, no, but you can tell the context that. No, because if you give any context at all, then they'll know that it's one of those, because then we're gonna say their name. You know what I'm saying? Like there's another place that's happening where their names are being said, so I don't.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Even I'm confused now, just keep going. Yeah. Yeah, man. His response to, can I have your email address, was I'm not a big social media guy. Meaning. But I just, I reached out on social media. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:02:22 He thinks I'm gonna go one layer deeper into the social media? Email is one layer back, further away. Isn't it? Yes. So a rabbit trail is when you're talking about one thing and you get distracted. And you get diverted and you follow it.
Starting point is 00:02:35 A rabbit hole. Hole is deeper into the same thing. An Alice in Wonderland, people. It's a direct allusion to Alice in Wonderland. I don't wanna say. Right? Yeah, follow the white rabbit. I don't want to say that the rabbit hole doesn't have a rabbit trail because I do think
Starting point is 00:02:53 the rabbit hole can go anywhere. In other words, there might be a fork in the rabbit hole that we take aside. And that would be a rabbit hole trail. Yeah, that's less catchy. Could call it a rabbit troll. But that would be a rabbit hole trail. Yeah, that's less catchy. Could call it a rabbit troll. But that would be confusing because people think it was some creature.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Right, especially because of the Alice in Wonderland thing. And that's all alluding to cocaine, by the way. You're one of those guys that thinks that all great children's entertainment is just comes from people who were high at the time. If you play the latest John Mayer album in sync with Alice in Wonderland, your mind will be blown.
Starting point is 00:03:32 You'll fall asleep. I like that new John Mayer album. No, I love it, man. But it's so soothing. John Mayer, he's- We are big fans of John Mayer. I'm fans of the new John Mayer, but he's like,
Starting point is 00:03:42 back when my body was his wonderland, I liked him. And then all of a sudden, I was like, no, that's when he sucked, guys. You gotta understand, John Mayer came into his own when he went a little bit country and a little bit rock and roll. Now I'm sure. And if you disagree with it, you're objectively wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Have we established that? I don't know him personally. I don't know anything about him personally. I have a feeling. I like him. That if you know stuff about him personally, you might be like, well, you shouldn't like John Mayer because of X, Y, and Z reasons.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Because he's an a-hole, right? But, and I don't even know that. All I know is that I love his latest music and I also see his tweets and I really like his philosophical tweets. Yeah, he came up with an idea about everyone on hold speaking to one another was like his most recent viral tweet at the time of this recording.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Right. But then he followed it up with, he got a little anxious because he followed it up with a tweet about how there should be some sort of light irritant in face wash so you would know that you had washed your face in case you forgot. And people are like, you should have left this one as a draft.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Well he had a series of Twitter drafts and they're referring to that because he would say, you know what, I'm gonna tweet all of my drafts that I never sent and those were funny because Oh that was smart. They were contextualized as I've decided not to tweet these. Unless you just found one on its own,
Starting point is 00:05:10 which is what happened to me. So again, I mentioned John Mayer being in Zombievers. Yeah. And now I'm mentioning him again and open invitation for John Mayer to come on Ear Biscuits. Oh, anytime, any day of the week. Bring your guitar, man, or just. Don't intimidate us.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Here's what, I want John Mayer to come on our show, but I want him to just play the mouth guitar. Okay, I can accept that, because we could probably hang with him. Both of us together. I play the mouth trumpet, he plays the mouth guitar, and you just take it in like watching a tennis match. Take it in my mouth?
Starting point is 00:05:45 No, what? What is your problem? You're a jerk, man. You said mouth twice and you said you just sit there and take it in and my mouth was ready for my instrument. So if you're not a social media person, that means you've got code for I don't have an email. I'm not much of a social media guy.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So I don't. Is that where we were going or do I need to, I need to go back out of this rabbit trail so we can talk about the rabbit hole again. The rabbit hole can be whatever we want it to be, man. But we're gonna stick with rabbit hole because that's what we started with. Might I just say that I'm very full right now,
Starting point is 00:06:24 I'm on a sugar high. At the time of recording this, I am still 39. Just say right now. No, I wanna say at the time of this recording because I like to put historical markers on things. That's what I appreciate when people do that. Is that coin you've been placing on things? Around the studio? Yeah. It's like, what's that coin? It been placing on things? Around the studio?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah. It's like, what's that coin? It's a historical marker. That's a stupid joke. Thank you for going along with it. Thank you for laughing at that joke. I'm still 39, I'll be 40 tomorrow. And Link and I also went out.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I will cease talking to you until I too turn 40 in June. You got a while. Link and I went out to our steak dinner that we promised that we would do in the last chapter of the Book of Mythicality, Stop and Celebrate. We said we would stop and celebrate when we finished the book, we would go have a steak dinner. There would be hollandaise.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And the interesting thing is, is when we sat down, that we told the waiter, oh, we're gonna need some hollandaise, and he said, there will be hollandaise. Which is exactly what we wrote in the book. Did we write it? I think I may have edited that out. I think at one point, I think it said there will be hollandaise,
Starting point is 00:07:31 but then when you read it earlier today, he didn't say there will be hollandaise. We edited it out. But we did talk about how there would be no hollandaise spilled on the book, but then you purposely spilled hollandaise on the book. Right on your own face. It looked like I was eating it.
Starting point is 00:07:47 But then, so, oh, and the guy said, because it was my birthday, first of all, thanks for telling them that it was my birthday, they printed my name on the menu. No, they do that for all the menus. If you go to Morton's Steakhouse in Burbank, But it said happy birthday. Anytime you hear it, it says happy birthday Rhett,
Starting point is 00:08:01 because odds are a Rhett's gonna stroll in and it's gonna be his birthday. And the guy said, given that it's your birthday, would you like a dessert? And of course, I never say no to that. I mean, I'm not a big social media guy, but I'm a big, I'm a big dessert guy. So I had the key lime pie, Link had a bite of it
Starting point is 00:08:19 and said that it was too tart for him. It's not surprising at all. It was better than lemon pie, which is horrible. Yeah, I actually like that as well. So it's not, I didn't say anything with that statement. And then. I left no historical marker on that statement. And then I got here to the office
Starting point is 00:08:37 and they had a cake for me because it's my birthday, which I should've thought about because we're traveling tomorrow. Well there was a general slack this morning that also said, hey guys, 3.30, we're all gonna celebrate Darren's birthday and Rhett's birthday a day early. Get ready for that.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Don't eat any key lime pie at the steakhouse. I'm so selfless that those kind of statements just, I forgot it's my birthday tomorrow. I don't think about myself at all. Nope. I totally agree with that. So when I saw everybody gathered, and you know, it took a few moments for me to realize
Starting point is 00:09:11 that I was even a part of it. That the assembly was at least half for me. But I saw the wood cake. You didn't. I knew that was mine though. Oh, the wood cake? I didn't even get close to it. I took a picture of it, put it on my, I'm not a big social media guy,
Starting point is 00:09:24 but I did put it on my Instagram. After a bite of that key lime pie, I couldn't go get close to it. I took a picture of it, put it on my, I'm not a big social media guy, but I did put it on my Instagram. After a bite of that key lime pie, I couldn't go near your wood cake. I didn't even get to see it. But I ate it, but it was pure indulgence. I was in the back of the crowd. I was that guy moping back there thinking about when it was gonna be my birthday.
Starting point is 00:09:38 But the key lime pie alone was pure indulgence, but then the second dessert on top of it. Ridiculous indulgence. By the way, my wife is the one that advised them on this. Was it made out of wood? No, it had a wood top, but it was just, it was a decoration. It just looked like a tree.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Was it edible or is it that fondant stuff that losers put on cakes when they wanna cover up the fact that it doesn't taste good. I don't think that you understand. It looked like this. It looked like a tree had been cut. It's like a cross section of a tree. Would you, what?
Starting point is 00:10:17 And it had a wood joke. Would you guess Rhett's 40? That is hilarious. And then it was a red velvet cake and cream cheese icing and then ice cream cake. Oh no they didn't. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It's your favorite. It is. I wonder how they knew that, I wonder who they asked. Well that's what I started with when I said my wife is the one who told them. I was trying to take credit for it. I had no part in it. What should be in it.
Starting point is 00:10:42 No part in it. So anyway, well. Didn't even see it. All that to say that I could fall asleep at any moment when I come down off this sugar high. If I get quiet or introspective, don't worry about me. I'm about to turn 40. You typically get introspective when you're dozing off.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm saying when I get quiet, you can just assume that I'm being introspective. Put it back on the timer so we'll know how long we have to torture these people. Oh, don't sell out the inside information. We time these things, guys, so we know that we're not talking for too short or too long. Man, I'm tired too.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I'm sorry I made it contagious. I didn't even eat any of the cake, Dan. I just called you Dan. But it's okay, Charlie. What a weird podcast already. the cake, Dan. I just called you Dan. But it's okay, Charlie. You've got. What a weird podcast already. You've got, which is technically your name, by the way, so it wasn't even weird.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, calling you Dan is kind of odd. Yeah, should've called you Ron. From now on, I'm gonna call you Dan. That's fine, let's get ready to go down this rabbit hole, but first, let's take a moment to shout out our sponsors. Ear Biscuits is supported by NatureBox, your source for snacks that taste good and are actually better for you.
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Starting point is 00:13:18 Naturebox.com slash ear. Now on with the biscuit. We ready to open this up? Brace yourself, kids. We're going down the rabbit hole. Bend over rabbit, we're coming in. Is this, oh gosh. Is this still a question? That's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:13:35 It's a place where a rabbit lives. Yeah, I don't even know what. The prompt was what are you thinking about right now? Okay. So it could be anything. you thinking about right now? Okay. So it could be anything. Talon Hanson asks,
Starting point is 00:13:51 what did my dog name me? Oh snap. I got a dog. What did my dog name me? It's in my lap right now. You know, it's like, I forgot about your dog. Look at her, she just sits there. My dog does not just sit there.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Just listen, this is for the audio people. She's sniffing the mic. Oh, she just, she licked the inside of my mouth. I didn't think I'd ever become that guy. But it's, yeah, but I thought that you, Neil, you didn't like the dog ever become that guy. But I thought that you, Niels, you didn't like the dog licking on the face. I don't like it, but I secretly feel loved by it. Us McLaughlins, man, we make out with Barbara all the time.
Starting point is 00:14:34 It's so gross. It's so gross. She's bored of this thing. But you can look at her face. Sometimes she'll be looking at me, and I'm like, what are you thinking? I'm called. No, I've been like, what are you thinking I'm called? No, I've been like, what are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:14:47 But I've never thought, I wonder what she calls me. But didn't the movie Up answer this question? Because of the device? Yeah man, the device. That was a Pixar movie, that was make believe. You know, I've made out with your dog. That's like in secret? No, I mean like today.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You wanna do it right now? I'll let her lick my face, I don't care. Well, do you wanna make out with my dog? I mean, I don't give tongue back, if that's what you're asking. But I accept tongue from dogs. Listen, Dan. Not into the mouth. Dan, do not ever make out with my dog
Starting point is 00:15:25 unless I'm watching again. It's like, how weird do you wanna make this? I'm just saying, first of all, people are like, it's gross and it's dirty, but dogs used to lick wounds back when they did things like put leeches on people. Oh, you mean humans' wounds. Yeah. You're talking about historically.
Starting point is 00:15:46 When someone would get hurt, they'd put a dog on the wound to lick it? I seem to think that that could be the case. Again, we're not allowed to lick anything up until the end of the podcast, so no internet references because. Well, I didn't know that was a rule. I know. But last time,
Starting point is 00:16:03 it worked so well. Okay. Because if a dog has a wound, they lick it. Hence, you know, the saying, a dog licks its wounds. I don't. I think that's a- Also a dog returns to its own vomit, which is also true and should make me not want to make out with them.
Starting point is 00:16:22 But what I'm saying is that the dog wants, the dog wants to lick my face. It is a natural thing that the dog wants to do. That's because the smells coming out of it are food-like. Well, that may be part of it but it's also, as I've been told, a form of the dog is kind of submitting to you, is licking your face. So the dog is like, that's what they would do to,
Starting point is 00:16:45 you're like the pack leader, you know? All the humans can be in the family. The dog is subordinate to all the humans. Right, when I go up to Jade's food, she backs away. Like she literally backs away, like tail first, in submission. And sometimes I'm like filling her bowl with food and then when I leave,
Starting point is 00:17:08 she'll come back up and start to eat it but she submits to my authority to eat the food first which in desperate situations, I do partake. And then she'll come back in so yeah, she definitely knows that I'm in charge but that doesn't keep her from sometimes snapping. Cause she's- At you? Even at me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Does Jade ever do like- Like in the bed. Like if she gets comfortable anywhere, not just in the bed, but she does sleep in the bed with me and Christy most of the time, I would say eight out of 10 nights. And then the other two nights she might sleep with one of the other kids. If she gets in that nestled in a perfect spot
Starting point is 00:17:49 that she wants to be in, and then if it's like, well I wanna be in that spot, well she gets mad. It's like. It's like that's exactly the noise she makes. Does she have a mad play mode? Because like, what Barbara will do is, I can get Barbara so worked up where she's just growling and going nuts and she looks like a rabid, vicious dog.
Starting point is 00:18:16 By the way, there's an L in growling. But she is playing with me. Yeah. Like she bites me but it's super soft and like it's all part of a game. Like, she looks crazy, she's making crazy noises, but we're just playing, and I'm like, kinda like poking her in the stomach and stuff, and she,
Starting point is 00:18:32 Are you making growling noises too? Oh yeah. Oh yeah? But she would never actually bite me. And then as soon as I like stop, she knows, okay, that kind of playtime is over now. But she's not actually mad. I feel like if Jade got to that point,
Starting point is 00:18:50 Jade would be actually biting. Well, with Barbara, when we bring them both to the office, they do it together. They're intensely growling and at each other's throats, literally. And Barbara's, I mean, a third the size of, well. A third bigger. One third bigger than Jade, but she's more submissive.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Like she'll roll over. Yeah. Put her, cause she's, I don't know. It's interesting why that's the dynamic. Jade is much more persnickety. I think it's just the breed. Breed type thing. But they both will like nod each other's necks,
Starting point is 00:19:28 which is the kill zone. But they're just playing because no one has been killed. She does that occasionally with me, but we don't play that way that often. I don't do it that often either. I mean, Jade is much more like a cat. Like she just wants to lay in a spot. And then occasionally, I'll open the front door
Starting point is 00:19:49 and she'll dart out onto the front lawn and then she'll just run around in circles and it's just like getting out all this like tension. And then she'll like sniff something and then she'll pee and then she'll dart back in the house and she'll find a spot and she'll growl if you try to move her. Barbara just wants to be
Starting point is 00:20:06 on you, whoever you are. It doesn't have to be a family member, it could be somebody who just came over. Yeah. Like if you lay down, she comes up, she gets on top of you and puts her feet, one foot on each side of your face and then just starts licking your face. And then when she stops licking your face,
Starting point is 00:20:21 she just puts her head on your face and just waits until you get her off of it. She's very sweet. Jade is not. And that's what she wants in the morning. Like she sleeps at the foot of the bed, in the bed, yes, in the bed. Under the covers?
Starting point is 00:20:35 No. And- Jade will sleep under the covers. As soon as you like, you'll wake up and kind of like roll over and she knows, oh, human's awake, and next thing you know, she's just, she's in that position. I know, you've talked about this before
Starting point is 00:20:47 and you talked about how you would do your stretches and she would perch on you and it made me cry, remember? I'm trying to make you cry again. Don't make me cry again. We've already talked about this. But the problem with Jade that we're having is we're coming to grips with the fact that, we didn't know this, but as a breed,
Starting point is 00:21:05 I was about to say Weimaraners, but she's not a Weimaraner. Yeah, she's not anything close to that. What is she, a Wienerschnitzel? She's a Datsun. A Datsun. A miniature Datsun. She's a long-haired miniature Datsun mixed with a Papillon. Of course, the person we adopted her from
Starting point is 00:21:20 lied about what she was and said she was purebred. Same thing for us. And I think we talked about that too, but what we discovered is that the Dotson part of her DNA dictates that she is very difficult to house break or house train or whatever you call it, potty break? Use the bathroom outside. They're notorious for this and of course,
Starting point is 00:21:47 you know, we write about this in the book about how we picked Jade and the mistakes we made. I don't regret picking Jade. I mean, all of this is in the chapter of the book so I'd rather not rehash that. I wanna reward those of you who are gonna read that. But as a side product of how we went about picking the dog erroneously, I never knew that, oh, this is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:22:13 They like to sneak away and pee and poop other places. It is a daily battle and it will be with us the rest of her life to keep her from peeing and pooping in other places and it drives me nuts. But. Why don't you just embrace it? I love her so much. Why don't you just embrace it? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Just let pee and poop be everywhere? Lots of people do that. I can't be that person. So I will just, I'll go into a frenzy of trying to get it up. Now I like it when she poops in the house. That's how bad it's gotten. What?
Starting point is 00:22:47 I would prefer, like, if we could have a talk, I'm looking at her right now, I'm like, Jade, I don't care if you poop in the house, just lay a log anywhere you want. They're pretty self-contained, they're pretty dry. After a few seconds, I can just reach down, pick it up, throw it in the toilet and flush it like a human turd.
Starting point is 00:23:06 But it's the pee that's the problem. I mean, you leave a little circle here, you leave a little circle there, and once you've left a circle, I understand that you're compelled to then leave a circle on top of the circle, you're making Venn diagrams on all of our rugs and it's unacceptable. She doesn't look like she cares.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It's freaking unacceptable and we can't get it up. She doesn't look ashamed at all. She looks mildly annoyed with you. Look at me, look at me. Look at me now, Jade. Jade, Jade, listen. That rug that we have in our bedroom, it's like a sheet, don't kiss me.
Starting point is 00:23:42 She's submissing to you. Don't make out with my face when I'm reprimanding you. You can make out with me, you wanna make out with me? She looks sad. Okay, play by play, Rhett's coming over to get, ah, don't kiss the mustache. I don't care, I like it. She just licked the inside of my mouth
Starting point is 00:24:02 and then she licked your mustache, dude. It's self-cleaning. She took care of it in a few seconds before it came to me. Jade, I love you no matter what, but it annoys me when you pee in the house. But you just said you're gonna have to deal with it. I just say get a yellow carpet and just embrace it. A yellow carpet with varying colors of yellow in like a Venn diagram type pattern.
Starting point is 00:24:26 A calico yellow carpet. Be like, I don't know where she pees. Somewhere. You know what? Everywhere. Just get a white carpet and she'll make that. But let's dig into this question. What did my dog name mean? Now interestingly, the question behind the question
Starting point is 00:24:41 is what's going on inside of a dog's brain. Right, and like, when I was holding up Jade for that, you know, the thing I was doing, the bit, right? Look, she looks, you said she looked, you personified her reaction in that moment. Yeah, but she's not annoyed because I don't believe that they, I mean, they can be annoyed,
Starting point is 00:25:02 but it isn't the same type of annoyance that, if she's annoyed, it wouldn't manifest itself on her face because dogs have not evolved to a place where they're reading the facial expressions of each other. That's not how they communicate. Humans, on the other hand, our faces communicate very specific things to each other, right? And monkeys.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Well yeah, but we're taking those facial expressions and we're projecting them onto the dog, whereas the dog does not have any point of reference for understanding other dogs' facial expressions. So actually, so interesting, couple of things that I do think apply here. Yeah. Domesticated dogs, again,
Starting point is 00:25:48 we can't look anything up on the internet, so this is like a serious paraphrase, but domesticated dogs have actually. Meaning this is BS. No, it's not BS. Okay. I'm saying that it's a paraphrase, so I'm not gonna get it exactly right, but domesticated dogs, as in Jade, Barbara,
Starting point is 00:26:04 dogs that have been bred by humans, one of the things that separates them from wolves is their ability to make and maintain eye contact with humans. And I think I'm not wrong in saying this, that they may be, I mean, obviously, I think they're the only non-primate mammals that are capable of that type of connection
Starting point is 00:26:30 with a person. And then when they don't make eye contact, that is a sign of submission. I think I've heard Caesar say that. I'm paraphrasing, of course. Right, but what I'm saying is they don't make eye contact with each other. They don't make eye contact with each other,
Starting point is 00:26:51 they make eye contact with humans. They make nose to butt contact. They have no reason, they're relying on a lot of different things, mostly smell. Yeah. And then maybe like overall body language or something, but they're not, and obviously, you know, they hear things and growling and that kind of thing and biting and that.
Starting point is 00:27:07 You cannot say the word growl, can you? Growling, but that doesn't, they don't look at each other and think, oh, he has a mean look on his face and his eyes. They don't talk to each other in that way. It's funny because last night we were in bed and Christy goes, Jay just seems depressed lately.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Now I think a dog can be depressed. I certainly, I know that to be true. But you're not gonna find that on the dog's face. You're just not gonna look at the dog's face and know that because she looks sad but sometimes if her nose is down and she's looking up, it's just the sheer shape of her face makes her look sad. And that's what I love about her.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And sometimes you'll see a dog that's smiling. Yeah, that's. But Barbara does this thing where. That's like saying a jack-o'-lantern's happy. She's got all this hair right around her. She's basically got like a beard. And she will lie down on the bed, and then like the covers will kind of push this up,
Starting point is 00:28:09 and then she'll turn to me and she's got this, her hair is going like this, and it looks like a giant smile. But she's not smiling, even when the dog smiles, and you see the corners of the, it doesn't, again, they haven't, there's nothing genetically happening that is contributing to a smile, that you're just totally perceiving that.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But that doesn't mean there can't be some, like, you know, it's body language or general disposition to know that the dog is depressed. Like when I, last night when I got home, instead of going in the front door, I heard her barking around the side where the trash cans are, where she is supposed to poop and pee.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And so I snuck around there and I went through the gate and I just busted through the gate and I was like and I just went nuts and she freaked out. Hold on, but for what reason? To freak her out. She freaked out because it was kind of dark over there and she's like running around. Hold on, you realize that this is counterproductive
Starting point is 00:29:04 to trying to get her to go outside and relax and use the bathroom. I didn't think about that. She's finally in the one space. She may have been getting ready to release it and you're like no, no, no, no, no. All she hears is that no, this is not supposed to happen. So you just set yourself back months.
Starting point is 00:29:23 That's a good point. Don't do that again. That is a good point. So anyway, that again. That is a good point. So anyway, she's freaking out. And then I'm like, hey, it's me. And then she realized it was me. And like the tail went up and started wagging and she comes up to me and she does this dance
Starting point is 00:29:36 on her hind legs like one of those dogs that you like have to like put in the circus for years. You don't have to put them in the circus. Well, they have to be in the circus for years. You don't have to put them in the circus. Well, they have to be in the circus for years to learn how to do that. I mean, it is a skill to enslave a dog to that level. My dog does it naturally. I'm pretty proud of that.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And, but I was interpreting her body language as acceptance, unacceptable, unconditional love, and thorough acceptance and relief that I wasn't a bear or a trash monster. And so she went inside and pooped. She did. To reward you. Yeah, I don't punish her for,
Starting point is 00:30:19 if I don't catch her in the act, we don't punish her, we've read everything we need to read about how to deal with it and I don't wanna get in the act. We don't punish her, we've read everything we need to read about how to deal with it and I don't wanna get into the potty training. But. You only use positive reinforcement. Yeah, yeah so. We do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:30:34 We do not. Not convinced that it works but that's what I try. We do not shame or in any way abuse the most valuable member of our family. You just scare the dog. Well she knew it was just a prank. She knew it was a prank. I mean, she was like so relieved,
Starting point is 00:30:51 just in the way that you are when you watch a horror movie. Another fact that we can set on the table to see if this is gonna help us get to this answer is there was another recent study is there was another recent study where they put dogs into cat scan machines. MRI? No, that's an MRI. This is like a brain scan.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Oh, true. So they basically did a scan of the dog's brain. First of all, they had to train dogs to be able to lie still inside of a cat scan machine and not be freaked out by the noise and that was a feat in and of itself. There's gotta be a cat dog scan joke somewhere in there. Yep, you take some time to figure that out.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I'll be thinking about that. And what they discovered, well I'm gonna, so I don't know if you heard me talk about this or you read it, but they compared rewarding an animal, a dog, with food, or rewarding a dog with praise from a person, its owner, and how do you think the dog, what do you think the difference is? What's a stronger motivator for dogs?
Starting point is 00:32:09 Food, rewarding with food or rewarding with praise? I think the heart of a dog has a much greater capacity than the stomach of a dog. So I think the biggest factor is is the dog hungry or not? So you did a little flipper-oony on that? You started to say one thing and then you came to the opposite conclusion. No. Is that on purpose?
Starting point is 00:32:33 No, definitely not. The heart of a dog is much bigger than the stomach of a dog. And then you said so it was the food, which is the opposite of what you were implying. The food is the limiting factor. That was not my answer. Okay. That was my rationale to give my answer, which I've yet implying. No, so I'm saying the food is the limiting factor. That was not my answer. Okay. That was my rationale to give my answer,
Starting point is 00:32:47 which I've yet to give. Okay, give your answer. Which is praise. Okay, well, it turns out, now I was thinking, when I started to read this, I was thinking about Barbara. Mm-hmm. Always thinking about Barbara.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Does she love food or praise? So she loves food. Like, she loves praise, but if I have, if it's been established that I have treats, I can get, you think you got Jay dancing like a circus dog? I can get Barbara to drive a frickin' golf cart if I have. She'd have to go out, you'd get her to go out,
Starting point is 00:33:25 purchase a golf cart, and then drive it back. No, I had her caddy an entire round of golf at Hilton Head last summer. Hilton Head, they don't allow you to have flashy billboards. It's a really classy place. But you can have dog caddies. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:33:42 There's a cat doggy caddy joke somewhere in there. The first nine holes, I had to tell her which club I needed. Right, right. And then she would bring it. But you'd give her a treat when you told her the club. I had to keep giving her treats. The second nine holes, she measured the distance and had the club waiting.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And did you have to still give treats? Yes. Right. The moment that I run out of treats. She's swimming in the pond. On the back nine. On the back waiting. And did you have to still give treats? Yes. Right. The moment that I run out of treats. She's swimming in the pond. On the back nine. On the back nine. Hole 15, par five, dog leg left. Oh, dog leg.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Dog leg left, she dog leg right? We got a nice seven mile per hour, left to right wind. So I'm like, I'm gonna play a little draw, but it's gonna sort of, the draw will be taken off because of the left to right wind. Right. And it'll just land nicely on the other side
Starting point is 00:34:32 of that sand trap. Barbara was in complete agreement with this. Yeah. But she says, with that wind, you may wanna use a three-wood instead of a driver. So I went with the three-wood, but then I ran out of treats. And then I didn't know whether or not I should go
Starting point is 00:34:45 for the green on the second shot, or if I should lay up. And where was she? By that point, because I didn't have any food, she was completely acting like a dog. She was licking herself. She was just finding different weird stuff. Was she humping anything?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Humping things left and right. Doesn't even have a penis and she's still humping. Just she's seen other dogs hump. Right. Really going deep with this one. So what club did you choose and what happened? I went for it and I landed in the water. You blew it.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah, I should have laid up. No, you should have brought more treats. Yeah, I double bogeyed basically out the rest of the back nine. Now, is she interested in giving it a swing? No, she's just interested in giving me advice. She knows her role. Yeah, so as I was saying, very motivated by food.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Did you ever praise her? When you ran out of treats were you like, good advice, girl. Yeah, it doesn't work. That's my point. She does not respond. So she poops outside and we actually had a trainer come. You remember this.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I paid to have this woman show up once a week for a couple of months. To like, and it was one of those things where it's just like everything she told me, I was like, that seems so obvious, but the fact that you're here telling me this makes it more likely that we'll actually enact something. Did you pay her in treats, by the way?
Starting point is 00:36:12 No, she insisted on cash. Dang. And a lot of it, man. Southern California dog trainers, that's like a doctor in North Carolina. You should've got a prenup. So, Barbara is so attuned to the food that she comes in after pooping and if I'm like,
Starting point is 00:36:33 good girl, she's got this look on her face like she's looking at my hands and she's like trying to get an angle on my hands because she's just like, if you don't have a treat, I don't care. And we're talking about a dog that loves people so much. So anyway. But she loves that treat.
Starting point is 00:36:50 That was the anecdotal evidence that I was bringing to this particular study. So when I actually heard that. And was this a web survey? I can't remember. No, it was a scientific study. This wasn't like one of those like click here to decide which Harry Potter character you are.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Typically, they don't have to use the, they wouldn't actually use a cat scanning machine in a web survey. I remember now. This was doctors and scientists. This is a study you read. So anyway, you stole my thunder a little bit because you guessed praise,
Starting point is 00:37:19 but it's actually they're even, which is, I think for the average person, that was a surprise that dogs would respond to praise just as much as they respond to food. Because a lot of times, because I think most people are just like, well, my dog only loves me because I am the one that feeds it. And I think a lot of people would say that about cats.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And that may be true about cats. I don't know nothing about cats. But I'm not gonna make any statements about cats other than I do not like them. Hate them, actually. But I do know that a lot of people are like, cats would eat you if they could, right? Might be true, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:55 If their jaw would unhinge like a boa. But there are definitely cases of. Imagine coming home and seeing an unhinged jaw of your house cat wrapped around, I don't know, a toddler. Oh gosh, Link. That'd be scary, dream about that tonight. I'm not gonna dream about that. I'm gonna do everything I can to wipe that image
Starting point is 00:38:16 from my brain for the rest of the day. Fine, a snake, a cat eating a snake. But there are cases of dogs. Whole. Taking care of their owners after they die. Well, there's not much to take care of. No, like staying by, like first of all,
Starting point is 00:38:32 there's cases of dogs taking care of a person who's sick and can't get up, like bringing them things, but there's also cases of dogs staying next to their owner that has died until someone comes to help. And these dogs are deprived of water and food, but they don't start eating the person. I'm no scientist, but I do believe a cat would eat a person. You know, I have to think that about cats.
Starting point is 00:38:56 But it turns out that it is evenly praised. Nick is over there nodding, but you're a dog person. Yeah, so I totally think a cat would eat you. Yeah, exactly. You own a dog, so you're like, uh-huh, that cat. But also. We're all biased. No, no, but I think that, again, scientifically, wouldn't you say that cats
Starting point is 00:39:17 have been less domesticated than dogs? I mean, a cat, if you have a cat, with the exception of maybe just a few breeds, you don't have to keep it inside. I mean, like, if you have a cat with the exception of maybe just a few breeds, you don't have to keep it inside. I mean, like if you just let it go off, it'll bring birds and fish and squirrels. But if I let Barbara outside, Barbara would be eaten within the first 12 hours by some other animal. She's not all the-
Starting point is 00:39:39 And there are breeds of dogs that would bring back all types of animals too. But I'm saying there's certain breeds. You're saying more cats are more likely as a whole to be like savage hunters. You have to get a certain breed of dog to make that happen. And also, cats don't respond nearly as much to humans. Anything.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You don't have cats like, I'm sure there are people who do cat tricks, like sitting and doing, but they can't do nearly what dogs do because the connection is not nearly as great. And cats don't come up to you and look, do you have any food, do you have any food? I love you.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It just doesn't happen. Some people prefer that, it's fine. I'm sure there are cats that are very dog-like. My cat loves me. I'm getting really nervous about taking a hard line on cats. How did you even get into cats, man? Man, screw cats. I just wanna talk about,
Starting point is 00:40:30 you just took a really hard line on cats again. Screw us talking about cats, because we're stupid. Let's talk about dogs. So dogs. We ain't got no business talking about cats. So basically I've said all this to get to two points that I wanna consider so we can answer this question definitively, scientifically.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Holistically and permanently. You've got the fact that they can make eye contact with people so there's a connection with people but also that they respond to praise from their human owners. Now I do acknowledge that there are some people who are uncomfortable with that word. But you gotta- Human?
Starting point is 00:41:02 No, human owners. You gotta suggest, you gotta come up with something. If you're gonna have a problem with using the term owner for someone who takes care of a dog, you gotta, it's not friend, is it? It's not mom. You gotta come up with something. Before you start tearing something down,
Starting point is 00:41:16 it's a long-held tradition, you gotta have something, you gotta replace it with something, okay? That's my note for the people who don't wanna be called owners of dogs. What about furpanion? There's actually a whole movement of people who don't believe furpanion, that's good. Furpanion.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I like that a lot. There you go, so get off it. Furpanion, okay. Yeah, take it back. Well but you're- You were pretty irate for no reason. You don't even believe that though. You just like worked up a lot of ire. There are people who don't believe
Starting point is 00:41:41 that we should have pets at all. They think the whole industry of having pets is wrong. They think that. Oh gosh, I'm getting scared. They think having pets. Man, I live in California. You know, two couple years now, we gonna be that liberal? Is, pets.
Starting point is 00:41:55 We gonna be relinquishing Jade to the wild. We're gonna spend the next three years training Jade and Barbara to live on their own as fully realized humans. But what will happen, now first of all. So I cannot go on record. They're gonna be pulling this up. Now I do believe. 10 years.
Starting point is 00:42:11 If I let Barbara out at Hilton Head, she'll just get a job as a caddy and she'll take care of herself. But anywhere other than Hilton Head, because they don't allow dogs to caddy anywhere else as far as I know. What about Boca Raton? I haven't been there.
Starting point is 00:42:23 She could do it there. I don't know, it's too humid. Everything's What about Boca Raton? I haven't been there. She could do it there. I don't know, it's too humid. Everything's pink in Boca Raton. But assuming that she doesn't get a job as a caddy, I think she's gonna get eaten by a coyote. Oh. You know? Certainly.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And so I feel like I'm giving Barbara her best life now. Sometimes I call Joel Osteen and I'm like, Joel, how do I give my- So are we getting real liberal or are we quoting Joel Osteen? I don't know what's happening. First of all, Joel, I know you're a listener. Joel, what you need to do, your next book needs to be give your dog its best life now.
Starting point is 00:43:01 It could be a collaboration with Caesar. Forpanion? And then we introduced the term for pannion. Yeah, well that's copyrighted, we took care of that before this came out. So anyway, where were we going with this? Oh man, did we just hit the end of a rabbit trail? No, no, no, we haven't.
Starting point is 00:43:17 No, no, no, no, no, we haven't. All we gotta do is back up and go to the main crevice of the hole. I took a rabbit trail off of the rabbit hole when I started getting on the people who don't believe that we should own animals as pets. Okay, maybe that's a different rabbit hole for a different time.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I'll say this, to get back to what does Jade call me, what does Barbara call you in their own mind, on the ownership tip. I mean, I do think that Jade, you know, they're pack animals, you're either the alpha or you're submissive. And maybe there's some for panning relationships where the dog is the alpha in the relationship with the human
Starting point is 00:44:06 and they, you know, your baby, you do everything that the dog wants and your life revolves around the dog. And hey, who am I to judge vocally on this podcast? But. I have a loophole on the furpanion thing though. I'm just saying. Skinless cat.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Skinless cat. What are you talking about, a skinless cat? Hairum thing, though. I'm just saying. Skinless cat. Skinless cat. What are you talking about? Skinless cat. Hairless cats, man. Man. Sorry. Let me finish my point before you start bringing. Man, that's just the organs exposed in a cat.
Starting point is 00:44:36 That's gross, man. That's all the rage. Have you seen on the west side? Have you seen the skinless cats that the ladies are carrying around in the purses? Dan, you've got to quit. It's basically just a face and organs. Oh gosh. That fits in your purse.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You have to have a purse. It's like a biology demonstration. There's a doctor in West Hollywood that you go to. It's an anatomical. And he breeds it, but it has to be, the cat has to be taken out of this bag. Oh gosh. And put into your purse.
Starting point is 00:45:05 What? That's how it's made. Wait, is it like, do you have to reinforce it with like chicken wire? I'm sorry I said skinless, it's hairless. Hairless cats can't be furpanions, they don't have any fur. And there are some hairless dogs too, right?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Isn't that a breed? Hairless cats are cats too, man. I know that, but are they furpanions? We'll come back to that. The name does discriminate against hairless cats. Yeah, we can't have that. And skinless cats for that matter. I mean, I just pictured like a bunch of chicken wire
Starting point is 00:45:39 wrapped around a cat's organs. Yeah, that's a bad mental picture. But continue your point. Oh, you wanna replace that mental picture with a cat's organs. Yeah, that's a bad mental picture. But continue your point. Oh, you wanna replace that mental picture with a cat eating a toddler? Go back to that one. Man, that cat's jaw just really gets unhinged. I never thought it could get around the head
Starting point is 00:45:58 of that big headed toddler. We're not talking about this anymore, are we? You are, but I'm just, I'm kinda letting it die. Well, the point that I was making was, in every wolf pack, there's an alpha and then there's the others. So the dog wants you to be the alpha. I mean, they'll fall in line.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I mean, it's just, it's how they work. It's how they would work in the wild. You know, so. But sometimes they, but sometimes they want to be the alpha. If you don't, that's what Caesar says that that's one of the big problems. Sure. When you don't, when you're not the alpha,
Starting point is 00:46:33 they see themselves as the alpha, then things get out of hand real fast. And you gotta fix that. And it's tough to come back from that. Caesar can do it with the help of Joel Osteen. I think that my dog names me Alpha. I think my name to Jade is Alpha. Okay, is that your answer?
Starting point is 00:47:00 Right now it is. I think I have the real answer. Well, I don't like what your retort implied about my answer. Well, I have another answer. I have an alternative answer. Okay, yes. Now, it has been documented as well that dogs,
Starting point is 00:47:16 obviously dogs understand their own names. And this can be demonstrated, one of the most entertaining ways I've ever seen it demonstrated is there's a YouTube video of a pack of dogs at the bottom of a stairs. Oh no, I thought you... I'll remind you of the other one, but go ahead. And it's like a bunch of the same breed of dogs, Border Collies or something, and there's literally like eight to ten dogs. And they're all standing at the
Starting point is 00:47:44 bottom of the stairs and they all want to come dogs. And they're all standing at the bottom of the stairs and they all wanna come upstairs. And then the owner calls them each by name and they one by one, and it's like Donner, Blitzen, like as she calls the names. Santa? We talking about Santa? They, one by one, they know their names so well.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And they would, and I venture to say that they can look at the other one, that didn't happen in the video as far, I haven't watched it for that reason. But in other words, they recognize names. But you could rewatch it for that reason. And I'm sure there are cases of dogs knowing that, oh, she just said Donner, that's my buddy here.
Starting point is 00:48:23 There's actually another video going around of two dogs and they're trying to get one dog to sit and the older dog puts his paw on the back of the other dog and makes him sit so he'll get a treat. Because he knows what's going on. He's like, she's telling you to sit, just sit, dummy. So we can both get a treat? So they can definitely recognize human language,
Starting point is 00:48:45 but the problem is they don't. And what about the video, first of all, what about the video where you were showing me this one, where the person would say something and then the dog would run over and put its face in a hole? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't a hole, was it? Well, a lot of- What was the word?
Starting point is 00:49:03 A lot of this is, is it, I follow him on Instagram. Is it Tony Baker? Is that his name? That sounds right. Comedian. And he's kind of known, he's a standup comedian, but he's known for doing these voiceovers of these animal videos. That's why I started following him.
Starting point is 00:49:18 He does a bunch of them. It's funny. And so a lot of these kind of come through his feed. And one of them is this little like Pomeranian that when you bring out the toe clippers, like the toenail clippers, the dog will go into like a house. First of all, did he make the video or did he rip the video
Starting point is 00:49:34 and then he voiced it over, right? He doesn't make any of the videos. Yeah. But this little Pomeranian goes into a house, but it will go into whatever it can go, and it keeps getting smaller and smaller for the video. Once you hold up the toenail clippers, it goes to the closest thing that it can hide in.
Starting point is 00:49:51 It'll get in a bag, it'll get like into, but then by the end it's like a cup and it's just like sticking its nose into the cup. Yeah, like a- And that's the way that it's hiding. Like a toddler sticking its face into a, like a cat's mouth. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:50:05 That's a great video to watch, but that doesn't really support any of the points that I'm making right now. But it's funny though. And my question is, when do you have time to watch these videos? Like you showed me the one and it was hilarious. And like never since then have I been like,
Starting point is 00:50:19 I gotta find that feed, I gotta look at the dogs. Well I'm not a big social media guy or anything, but I do have an Instagram account that I go on and I follow people and so it comes up in the feed and I watch it. I do have a problem though, because I'll get into, I'll just, you know, I do the thing where Twitter, Instagram, newsfeed, whatever, and I like go through them
Starting point is 00:50:43 a couple of times before I go to bed, then I go through them again when I wake up go to bed, then I go through them again when I wake up, it's bad, I'm addicted to my phone and it's not good. For a while there, I didn't have my phone next to me, I was putting it in the bathroom. That lasted a couple weeks. That's another conversation.
Starting point is 00:50:57 But let me, I wanna get to this. But you never told me what you thought Barbara calls you. Well that's what I'm getting to. So we know that dogs can recognize names. And we also know that dogs have the ability to vocalize things. They have some sort of language, right? Awoo!
Starting point is 00:51:15 Now, but that's just mockery at that point. Awoo! Or that's just mimicry at that point. Awoo! No, but they don't know what they're doing at that point. They're doing something, I don't know how you get a dog to do that. Sure, they could do that in Hilton Head, but.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I peed in your bedroom. But what happens with, so we talked about this before. You know how when a wolf or a dog, but this has been documented more with wolves. Okay. When they howl, if you'll notice sometimes you'll play like a musical instrument or you'll play music or you'll make your own howling
Starting point is 00:51:49 noise and a dog will begin to howl and the dog never hits the same note as you. And it's not because dogs can't sing but it's been documented that they actually purposely hit different frequencies. So a bunch of
Starting point is 00:52:04 wolves howling together, they don't all hit the same note, they hit, and it's not harmonics, they don't hit harmonies, but they almost hit like purposely dissonant different notes. As their own sound signature, I guess. Yeah, so they have the ability to do pretty complex vocalizations, but I don't believe that it's been documented
Starting point is 00:52:26 that they have names for each other. Now I realize I'm taking the scientific approach here. But they have the ability- Because whales do. Oh yeah, oh whales do, dolphins do. They name themselves as babies. Yeah. Right, which is an interesting,
Starting point is 00:52:42 which sounds like a very Southern California thing that'll start happening with kids, you know? Let's let the children name themselves. So then all kids will be named, ah! Yeah, exactly, it'll be chaos. Which is why dolphin society is such a mess right now. Right, they really gotta, someone needs to step in. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. Too free spirited, those dolphins are too free spirited. Need more structure, you know? They gotta have a leader, they gotta have a strong leader, but they want the kids to be in charge and that's why they're having so many troubles. Right, if you want to play golf, you gotta deal with a runoff.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Got it. So, I think the definitive answer to this, unfortunately, is that your dog cannot name you, but your dog can recognize your name. And if it's a smart dog, it will recognize your name. So in other words, I'm sure we could find a YouTube video of this. Let's say there's a family, they're standing there,
Starting point is 00:53:41 and you say, Barbara, go to Link. Barbara, go to Rhett. And Barbara, if Barbara was smart and trained would be able to do that. I've seen this video and it is a dog who is told to get a specific toy. Exactly. And it's a basket full of toys and then they're like,
Starting point is 00:54:03 Gray Wolf, go get the Hambone. Bring back the Hambone. Gray Wolf, go get the creepy clown face that squeaks but no longer squeaks because you damaged it. He goes and gets the creepy clown face that squeaks but no longer squeaks because he damaged it. I've seen this video. So I think you're onto something.
Starting point is 00:54:25 But the real question is, Tony Baker didn't voice it over. Will a dog at some point be able to, like, because the real question is, is the dog in its own mind, like processing something that could be the equivalent of a name when it thinks of you. And I would think that the number one identifier
Starting point is 00:54:48 that a dog uses with a person is smell. Wouldn't you think? Wouldn't you think that it's a smell signature? No, because I walked through my front door and then there's a vestibule, a lobby if you will, to my home, and then there's another vestibule, a lobby if you will, to my home. And then there's another door, double door, that's mostly glass.
Starting point is 00:55:14 So basically when I walk in my front door- This is why you never respond when I come to your house and knock on the door and ring the doorbell. Because A, the doorbell does not work even though you insist that it does. And B, I knock but I'm knocking on the outside of the vestibule. Right. You need to have access. But you've locked.
Starting point is 00:55:28 To the inner sanctum. You've locked access to the inner sanctum. Which I have not given you. And then I text you, I'm here, I'm here, and then seven minutes have passed and I'm just a. Don't have reception. I'm just a doofus on the, yeah. Even though you say, well I've got, no, no,
Starting point is 00:55:41 I got reception, I have a special antenna that we built. We built. That we built, that we bought, that gives I got reception. I have a special antenna that we built. We built. That we built, that we bought that gives us perfect reception. Well that's not working either, man. So many times I've looked like a strange robber on your doorstep. Seven to 10 minutes just sitting there
Starting point is 00:55:55 trying to pick my way in and thinking, should I just go around the back? One time I did go around the back. You scared Jay when she was trying to poop. Yeah. You set me back a couple of months. So anyway, when I come home and I'm standing in my vestibule, it's basically like I'm in my own,
Starting point is 00:56:11 I'm an exhibit in the zoo. I can see the whole rest of the house because the double doors are almost all glass. Jade can also see me and she goes, ape crap for me, What can I say? But I'm that fabulous, but she does not smell me yet. Oh, she probably does smell you. She probably does smell you.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Well, I will say this. But she probably also sees you. She can recognize you. She woke us up barking the other morning and she's going nuts. And I went out second floor, I went out on the balcony and looked down. Well actually, I don't know why I said me
Starting point is 00:56:51 because it wasn't me, it was Christy. Oh I think we just learned something about it. I was making Christy's story my own. I don't know why. You have a tendency to do this. No I was in the vestibule so I was trying to tell that story but I got sidetracked. This is Christy's story, I'm not gonna commandeer it.
Starting point is 00:57:07 But she did tell me in such a vivid fashion that I felt like I experienced it. And she did take video. So she goes out there and there's a bear down there in our backyard. Yeah. Because we back up to some woods and like, there's one bear that turns over a trash can
Starting point is 00:57:22 and like goes all around. Well, there was just one window open and Jade smelled the bear. Cause I don't think we heard the bear. The bear was very quiet. Yeah, bears are quiet. I think she could smell me through the vestibule. But you don't smell as strong as a bear.
Starting point is 00:57:37 But I, so what's your point? If you're right about that, which I didn't mean to support you, but I guess I did, then your point is, what? Your dog names you with a smell. Not, even though I do agree that we've made a lot of progress in believing that they do know the names of their owner, if they're as smart
Starting point is 00:57:59 as that dog that can pull out the hand bone. So dogs are certainly capable of knowing their owner's names. So if I'm sitting next to Jade and then Christy's like, "'Link, sit,' she'll reach over and like, "'put her paw on my butt.'" Well, that is the question. As many times as, it's like,
Starting point is 00:58:19 Barbara obviously, and Jade obviously knows, like, they are members of a family and like Barbara knows, okay, there's the big one, that's me. And then there's the one with long hair, that's Jessie. And then you've got the kids, she's like, okay, Shepherd's the one that messes with me and kind of annoys me and gets me to bark a lot because he's the youngest.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Right. And you know, and so she obviously. And Jay's like Lando, doesn't know Lando, it's like that little one, that's the one I would eat first if they all died. Right. I think that we should grab a laptop and we should Google and see if we're right.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Because our final answer, Talyn Hanson, what did my dog name me? You know what? My answer at first was Alpha, but now, dang it, do I have to agree with you? I wanna make a united front here. You have swung me to say that our official answer is that dogs know your name,
Starting point is 00:59:25 but they don't call you by that name in their own brain. They what? We were only just saying that they smell. They know you by smell. So it's just like they have a language of smell so it's a smell name that doesn't use human vocabulary. Cody, you had Googled Google. that doesn't use human vocabulary. Cody, you had Googled Google.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I hope you're not offended if I replace that. If you do that too many times, your computer will blow up. I'm gonna Google. Every time you Google Google, it really creates a lot of problems. What did my dog name me? So that first one that comes up is just a funny meme. I wastesomuchtime.com.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I have a Scientific American article. Now first of all, before you give your answer, the answer that I now have is that Talon Hanson didn't come up with this question. This is a memic question that floats around the internet that we cannot give to just Talon Hanson because I mean it's got 19 comments and 1,057 awesome upvotes on the amazing website
Starting point is 01:00:35 known as I waste so much time, which I'm sure you've been to. Oh yeah, I founded that website. But I do appreciate you asking us Talon, Talon. Heck, we're probably not even saying your name right. And I said it three different ways just now. Bet you a dog could say it. This is basically answering the question, can dogs speak?
Starting point is 01:00:53 Are they actually talking? And it just says they're no, they're just mimicking, which is what we already said. Well that's a smoke screen answer. Maybe I should keep Googling. This is when everybody clicks away because it gets boring. How about this?
Starting point is 01:01:12 How do dogs recognize their owners? Do dogs name their owners? You know, when in doubt, go to the Denver Post. You get a mile up there, you're gonna find all the answers. Gazing at faces is how dogs pick out their owner, research shows. Dogs can read a lot from a human's face
Starting point is 01:01:34 according to recent research. For one thing, they rely on seeing a face to tell whether a person is their guardian or a stranger. And they use the word guardian, not owner. Okay. I got it. For opinion maybe. They also read emotional cues on a face
Starting point is 01:01:48 the same way people do with each other. Interesting, but we already knew all that. This is good. Okay, so according to a study published in a recent issue of behavioral processes, scientists trained a group of dogs to sit while in an MRI machine and then individually recorded their brain activity as they reacted to the sense
Starting point is 01:02:07 of people and dogs who weren't present. These included a strange dog, a dog with whom they lived, a strange person, and a person with whom they lived, excluding their owners since the owners had to act as handlers while the dogs were in the MRI. The dogs exhibited greater brain activity for familiar people than for any other scent, even familiar dogs.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Not only do dogs recognize and remember their human scents, but they also get more excited about a whiff of their humans than about anything else. So the number one way in this article is by scent, and they've identified you. So basically their name for you is a scent, but also they recognize your face by sight, so the user knows is defined and recognize
Starting point is 01:02:48 everything in the world, including people, but it turns out that they're also very good at using their eyes. Dogs evolved to read human behavior and expressions as a result of their canine ancestors who received warm places to sleep around human campfires by making people happy. To succeed at a survival strategy based on making
Starting point is 01:03:05 another species happy, you need to develop a knack for reading expressions and body language, and that's just what dogs have done. So in other words, again, they didn't evolve to read each other's body language. They didn't need that. They had the sounds and the smells and just the actions, but they actually learned because of their domestication
Starting point is 01:03:24 to interact with us in that way. Yeah, according to Dogs Decoded on PBS television's program Nova, dogs read human emotions the same way humans do by reading facial cues left to right like humans. Huh, I don't know what that means, left to right. They don't do this with other dogs, and that's just one of the show's interesting findings. We read emotions left to right just like we do words?
Starting point is 01:03:52 Yeah, that seems odd to me. Well, that must be true though. So what have we learned here? We've learned that furpanions is a potential substitute for pets and owners and they can be used interchangeably. Yes. Except if you have a hairless or a skinless cat, you're out of luck and you have to come up
Starting point is 01:04:13 with your own name. And don't send us pictures of either. Yeah. Because they both sound really gross to me. We also determined that, and everyone will have to agree with the fact that dogs use smell to identify all types of stuff. It's like they read a book with their nose, man.
Starting point is 01:04:33 So I think we're onto something with that. The name that your dog has for you- Is a smell. Is a smell that cannot be named by humans. But it's probably something like. Yeah, it's like an alien. It's like an alien trying to, it's like when those computers started talking to each other
Starting point is 01:04:53 and they bypassed human language and just went straight to digital. But ironically for Jade, that does sound, it's like alpha, it sounds very much like alpha. So I was right in both ways. If it makes you feel better, if you wanna create your own truth, that's fine. As long as it doesn't impinge on me. We did not validate this last point
Starting point is 01:05:20 with the internet yet, but who cares? We do also believe here at Ear Biscuits that I lost my train of thought. Oh good, you don't need to be making any statements of belief. We here at Ear Biscuits believe, what was the last thing we figured out, man? That dogs do know their owners' names, that's it.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah, I thought it was gonna be something more. We at Ear Biscuits wholeheartedly believe that dogs do not name their owners' names, that's it. Yeah, I thought it was gonna be something more. We at Ear Biscuits wholeheartedly believe that dogs do not name their owners, but do acknowledge their owners' names. So to answer your question, Talyn, what did my dog name me? Your dog didn't name you, your parents did, and your dog recognizes that.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And until your dog starts hanging out with the wrong crowd of dolphins and starts believing that it should be naming itself, you're in good hands. Yep, stick to golf. That should do it for us. It should. I hope the music's playing,
Starting point is 01:06:14 because man, we have reached the end of the rabbit hole. Yeah. I like this, it's rewarding. It's what? You know what I mean. Okay.

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