Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 262: Would We Be Friends If We Met As Adults? | Ear Biscuits Ep.262

Episode Date: November 2, 2020

What if Rhett and Link never met in first grade? What if instead, they had met as adults? Listen to the guys guess what their first interaction may be like, the struggles of making friends as adults, ...and if they would actually still become friends had they met today in this episode of Ear Biscuits! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:45 This week at the Round Table of Dim Lighting, we are fielding your pressing questions and having what is sure to be a fun loving conversation. Maybe pressing your fielding questions. You remember Field and Stream, the magazine? I remember the cover. I don't, it's not like I ever- You didn't get it?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Subscribed to it. I, for some reason, I would get it occasionally. Really? Yeah. So you weren't a subscriber, but you would randomly get it. I would like buy it off of the shelf. It was mostly- I don't know why, cause I was like, I like fields and I like streams.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's fishing and hunting. Hunting and fishing. And I did that as a kid. We're gonna answer questions, including would we be friends if we met as adults? How long should you wait before you honk at someone who's not going in front of you on a green light? Those are two different questions.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Oh, but they're very much related. I don't know how. Was there a magazine that you would pick up off of the shelf? Magazine that I would pick up off of the shelf? Magazine that I would pick up. Entertainment Weekly. That was the magazine. As a child? As a middle schooler and maybe even a high schooler.
Starting point is 00:01:56 You know my brother subscribed to Sports Illustrated. Oh yeah. And. You're gonna talk about the Swim Shoot issue, aren't you? The Swim Shoot issue. If you bring up Sports Illustrated. Yeah, speaking of field extremes. I remember, I distinctly remember you showing up to school.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I brought it to school? No, you didn't bring it, but you brought a report about it. And not for class, just for me. I don't know exactly what my parents were. My brother got the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. I don't know what year the swimsuit issue came out first. That's the only one you talked about.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I don't know which one came out first. I don't know the first year of the swimsuit issue, but I guess that's irrelevant. When it first came out, it was illustrated. Like all the sports were illustrated. And even the swimsuit issue was illustrated. Right, so it was like- Which it doesn't have the same effect.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah, it was basically like a coloring book. I remember- Which we have one have the same effect. Yeah, it was basically like a coloring book. I remember- Which we have one of those now, spoiler alert. Kathy Ireland on it. She now sells like, you know, like home goods. Just like a line at Target. Yeah, the math adds up for that. Man.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Well, I mean, I don't like, I don't partake of the swimsuit issue anymore. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm like aware of it in the way that you're aware of it on the internet. And you're like, oh. It was a big deal. This woman is on the front.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Everybody knows who's on the front. But back in the day, it was like, well, of course I'm gonna spend some time on the front, but I'm going in and I'm gonna spend way too much time. Did you take it in secret? Like did Cole know you were taking it from his room? Your parents certainly didn't know that he had it. No, they did because my mom would get the mail.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And I think it was, I mean, again, I'm just going off of pure conjecture at this point, but my mom is the one who collected the mail. And I think that she may have just made the decision, well, he subscribes to this. That doesn't seem like, given the environment and the amount of oversight, well, maybe oversight's not the right word.
Starting point is 00:03:59 But it was just a woman in a bikini. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't porn. No, but it seems scandalous to us. Oh yeah. To have it. Like I wouldn't be caught dead looking at it in the aisle of the shortstop. That'd be embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Well, there's more embarrassing things than that. Well, certainly, but I just think that we had a little bit too much, I had a little bit too much shame, still do, apparently. Yeah, that's ding, ding, ding. Just kidding. But I mean a lot of- We've all got shame. A lot of them you could see more
Starting point is 00:04:32 than a bathing suit should show. Well, I mean, especially back in the day. Back in the day. I mean, that's just like everybody, your teacher wears that kind of bathing suit now. You know? On her TikTok account. Do teachers have TikTok now?
Starting point is 00:04:46 I don't even wanna know. Yeah, teacher TikTok. It's a whole section. Teacher talk. I took a trip to Joshua Tree. Look at me, man. I come back from Zion and then like weeks later. Back from the desert.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Here I am going back to another national park desert location. Did you know that Joshua Tree did not become a national park until 1994? Yeah, after the U2 album. That's when they sent the government over the edge. Bill Clinton was like, I've got to get this place taken care of.
Starting point is 00:05:19 We gotta protect this place. We gotta protect this place, really do. I had a conversation with Bono. This is how I had a conversation with Bono. He finally returned my calls when I said I was gonna make Joshua Tree in National Park. So he called me back and Edge was in the background. What year was that album released?
Starting point is 00:05:38 I don't know. I am not a U2 fan, you know that. Our friend Mike took you to a U2 concert. Yeah, I mean, I respect, you know, I respect U2. We have very similar tastes in music. And I think the reason why we don't like U2 or haven't gotten into U2, it's like,
Starting point is 00:05:59 yeah, it's more about us than it is about U2. Really? I think, yeah. I think it's about U2. It's not about me. It's a little and it is about you too. Really? I think, yeah. I think it's about you too. It's not about me. It's a little, you know, cause just like- It's a little too rocky for us.
Starting point is 00:06:10 A little too rocky. A little too rocky. Yeah. We like a little more soul. Even when it gets pensive, it's still a little too rocky for us. There's something about that. And we never reconnected with just pure rock.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Never got into it. Always felt like it wasn't for us. It's like rap, yeah. Country, yeah. Soul, yeah. Rock, Southern rock, yeah. Rock. Classic rock, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:36 But like. So classic rock, yeah. CCR. But getting into that U2, so I don't know. Yeah. I think there's people who would try to, I'm pretty sure there's a Joshua Tree on the- On the cover. People will try to find it.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, and that's not happening. You can't because I mean, you've seen one Joshua Tree, you've seen them all. Well, they're all different. It's like a snowflake. They're just like snowflakes, I know. But it never snows where Joshua Trees are, which is the mind blowing thing.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Also not true, I don't think. You can have some snow at Joshua tree. It's where two, it's like a high desert and a lower desert meet. And these Joshua trees are finicky. Certain elevation. And they're very specific. Cause you know, even when we would like do a off-roading
Starting point is 00:07:18 or overlanding trip, like when we went to Death Valley for like those three or four nights, I remember we'd go into this one valley or like crest this hill. It was only in one place. And we were in this like expansive valley and you lose perspective when you're driving through Death Valley
Starting point is 00:07:39 about what altitude you're at, what elevation you're at. You're not flying, but what elevation you're at, you know? If you got a good spoiler. Sometimes you might think, oh, we've been in this valley for a long time and then you round another corner and there's just like, it was just an inlet to a much more huge valley
Starting point is 00:07:59 because everything gets so expensive. But I remember coming around over one ridge and all of a sudden it was just Joshua trees everywhere. And we've been driving for a couple of days and it was only in this one place, this one altitude, but Joshua tree's special because there's so many there at that particular, keep me in say elevation. Did you go to the, I can't remember the name of it,
Starting point is 00:08:22 but there's a forest of a certain type of cactus that you can walk through. No. And it's like incredibly densely, like it's the kind of thing that if like you were playing around and you push your, you know, friend, they would get a bunch of needles in them. Like you have to watch where you're walking,
Starting point is 00:08:42 but it's just, I don't- Did you go there? Yeah, I've been there twice now. It's just one of- No, but to this particular place you're walking, but it's just- Did you go there? Yeah, I've been there twice now. It's just one of- No, but to this particular place you're talking about. It's one of the stops off of the main road if you're going through Joshua Tree. I haven't, but that is a thing.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It's called the So-and-So Forest, and it's just these cacti- I didn't even see. That are like this tall. It's pretty remarkable. Hmm. You should have told me that a week ago. It's the most unlike the rest of Joshua Tree, but it's not as cool as the rest of Joshua Tree.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So you're not missing much, but it's just unusual. The thing about Joshua Tree, you're right. There's basically one paved road that goes through Joshua Tree. There's some offshoots, but not many. It's pretty Disney-esque in that way. Yeah, and so you'll go to one parking lot and then you'll take like the loop trail
Starting point is 00:09:29 with whatever rock features are associated with that. And then you'll get back in the car and you'll drive to another place. So we had the kids, it was just a family excursion. And we stayed in an Airbnb. We didn't, too many people for a van, that's a problem I'm having. You know, I'm still obsessing about this van life
Starting point is 00:09:48 on Instagram, but Insta cramming my family into a van is a bit much. We have one too many kids. What about van life meets trailer life? So it's a van and you haul a trailer and the kids are in the trailer, a windowless trailer behind you. I mean, Lily's getting today's and she's going,, Lily's getting today, she's going off on her own.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I'm just thinking that she's just not part of the equation. If I were to get one of these vans, it would be like, take a kid or two, take a wife or two, but not take everybody at once. Okay, yeah, I get it. I mean, I could take Christy and Jessie is what I'm saying. Okay, well, Jessie likes to do things on her own. With me and Christy?
Starting point is 00:10:30 You're saying Jessie likes to do things without you. She can do whatever she wants, man. You know what? We give each other lots of freedom. Something about your response rings of a reprimand that you've gotten from Jessie about something you've talked about. No, I'm just joking. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:47 She just, I mean, she went on a solo trip that she really enjoyed, you know? Yeah. So that's kind of our thing now. We just go on separate trips. Yeah, you alternate. Yeah. Whose weekend is it to be away from the other person?
Starting point is 00:11:02 This is her first. Just once, you know, just a like maybe annual little trip, each person gets their, because I feel like if only one person in the couple is on, in fact, we were asked this question in the AMA on the Mythical Society today. Yeah. Somebody was asking,
Starting point is 00:11:19 how do I talk my significant other into me going on a solo trip? And I was like, I didn't have to worry about that because Jessie and I were both making the decision to prioritize a solo trip independently at the same time. Yeah, so the answer is- You gotta both be on board. Get them to go on one first.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And they have to see it as not being about them, but being about you. You know, the solo trip- What do you mean? The solo trip has nothing to do with me getting away from Jessie. The solo trip has everything to do with me having time with myself and her having time with herself
Starting point is 00:11:52 so we can come back and be better people in general, which benefits the other person and the rest of the family. How's that going, by the way? The benefiting of the other people? No, are you a better person? Is it worn off? I would say, you know, I think you take, it's Paula Abdul, I think I Paula Abdul'd it.
Starting point is 00:12:11 One step forward, two steps back? I thought it was two steps forward and one step back. She say one step forward and two steps back? Two steps forward, two steps, I think it's two and two now that I, I don't know. Well then what the hell is Paula doing? Opposites attract. She's taking two steps forward
Starting point is 00:12:28 and then the person's taking two steps back. It ain't fiction, it's a natural fact. Two step forward. So she wasn't even talking about the same thing that I'm talking about. I'm talking about making forward progress and then regressing and then being like, oh, I feel like I'm in a better place in some respects.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So not like Paula Abdul, like a song that I can't come up with right now in which I, I'm glad you asked the question because I talked to my therapist right when I got back from the trip. And what we talked about was how you take this moment that you had and then entering back into normal life,
Starting point is 00:13:07 it seemed normal life wants to undo everything. It wants to drag you back into its normalcy and your routines and your habits and the way that you see the world by default. And so that has been a struggle because it's been weeks now since I got back. So, but I expected that. I didn't go in thinking that I was gonna come back
Starting point is 00:13:32 a completely different person. I was like, this is about the journey, man. It's about incremental change in the right direction. That's all I can hope for. The thing that I did, I mean, it wasn't a solo trip, but the trip with Christy was very special when we went to Utah. I came back and I was actually talking
Starting point is 00:13:53 to my therapist about it. And then one of the things that he said was, he suggested that I make a photo album. Oh, scrapbook. Yeah, well, all my photos are in Google Photos. Did he use the term scrapbook? No, I just put them into a, you know, you can order a hard or soft bag, Apple did it first.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Always go hard. And now Google does it and I went hard. Yeah. And I surprised Christy with it just so we could, you know, we could have something physical where it's like memorialize the occasion and I put some funny captions in there, like on that one campsite, it was like,
Starting point is 00:14:29 you selling hot dogs? That kind of thing. That brings back the right kind of memories. I don't think we would have forgotten that. But side note, Google Photos books suck ass. Compared to Apple's? Compared to Apple. And so I would, next time I would download, they altered all of my photos.
Starting point is 00:14:48 They like tried to enhance them. Google did? Yeah. Google's trying to like saturate my photos. My photos are the way I want my photos. Like don't apply some general saturation to everything that you're printing to where it's like. If anything, you need to desaturate. Just leave it.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I took the picture. If I wanted to edit it, I would have done that. I'm not a dummy. And I'm pretty sure that next time I'm just gonna download them all from Google and I'm gonna upload them to Apple just to do that, even though I don't keep my stuff. I have a Mac. I use Google Photos.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Now you run into a problem here. But I'll tell you this one story from going to Joshua Tree. We got an Airbnb, it was this place, it was a 30 minute drive from the entrance to Joshua Tree, like north of a place called Pioneer Town, which they filmed some stuff there. They have like a makeshift Western town
Starting point is 00:15:47 and I think Ice Cube shot a music video there. How does that add up? I don't know. Anyway, so we're out there and you know, the booklet for the Airbnb, they just tell you what to do and what not to do. And if you bring a dog, you better put them on a sheet on the couch
Starting point is 00:16:04 and that kind of stuff. And they you bring a dog, you better put them on a sheet on the couch and that kind of stuff. And they said, out of respect for our neighbors, and this house was in the middle of like this desert valley. We arrived at night and I couldn't tell if there were any other houses around for reasons I'll get into, but they weren't that close. It was like the neighbors weren't that close. The next morning I could tell.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And the reason why is because of what they said in the booklet, out of respect for the neighbors, only use outside lighting when absolutely necessary. And then turn off your lights so that it decreases light pollution to help with stargazing. People are out here in the desert to see the stars. And I'm real tuned into that ever since the last trip, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:48 And it was a big selling point. They had a hot tub out there in the middle of the backyard. Oh, nice. And then you get in the hot tub and you just lean back and you look at this expansive sky and see what I schooled Lily on was the Milky Way. So like that first night, I mean, they had flashlights so that, cause you can't turn the lights off
Starting point is 00:17:12 once you get in the hot tub, you gotta turn them off from the house and then like walk out and try not to trip on the Joshua tree and the cacti and the rocks and stuff. And so you're using your flashlight, you're getting out there and we turn off the lights in the hot tub too. So like it's very black.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And we're looking up at the stars, boy, we're having a good old time. And all of a sudden Lando goes, oh, we're like, what? He was like, I just tasted something. It tasted like sausage. And I said, and we all were like, what? And Lando is the type that like, Lando is a very reactionary kid.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Wouldn't you say? Yes. You know, he's particular about things. He's a bit queer, kind of like me, meaning that he's, well, I don't want to have to re-explain what that means, but it just means particular. So we didn't want to say, there is no sausage floating in this pool.
Starting point is 00:18:21 He had apparently, he had put his mouth down at the surface level of the water and he got something in his mouth and he said- I thought he had apparently, he had put his mouth down at the surface level of the water and he got something in his mouth and he said- I thought he had like burped and was tasting dinner again. No, we had not had sausage that night or the day before. He had put his mouth down at the water and gotten something in his mouth
Starting point is 00:18:38 that he said tasted like sausage. And we didn't wanna alarm him. But from before I had turned the light off, I was the first one out there with Lincoln and Lincoln was like, you need to get these bugs out of the hot tub. And I didn't want to tell him that I was pretty sure cause I didn't get the bugs out.
Starting point is 00:19:00 There's only two of them. Now there's only one of them. I didn't want wanna tell him, dude, I think you ate a bug or worse. I mean, so as far as I know, as far as he knows, he ate a sausage because the way that he said it, he said, I just, mm, I just got something in my mouth that tastes like sausage.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I could tell by the way he said it- It was probably a moth. That he did eat it. It was probably a moth. He chewed it up. I could imagine. Tasted it, experienced the sensation of sausage. Why would he chew it? And then I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I think he just got it in his mouth. And then. I think it came in with a gulp of water or something. Well, I think he swallowed it and he didn't, and he was like, hmm. He said it in a way that was like, hmm, that taste, I just got something in my mouth. Is this sausage water?
Starting point is 00:19:46 Is there sausage water in this hot tub? So I'm telling you more than I'm telling him, but he ate something that I'm afraid is not sausage. You haven't talked to him about it? No. Even like days later? We would make fun of like, it's like, man, this tastes like sausage
Starting point is 00:20:00 for a lot of things for the rest of the weekend. And he didn't put it together. So mission accomplished, he never freaked out, but I do not know exactly what he ate. It was definitely a bug. Cause I can, having eaten lots of bugs. A soggy sausage like bug. I can imagine, and especially an uncooked bug.
Starting point is 00:20:18 At least, I mean, I guess it's like parboiled because it's in the- A lot of chemicals in there. It's in the hot tub, but yeah, I could totally, it's got a little spice to it's in the hot tub. Yeah, I could totally, it's got a little spice to it and you can't quite reconcile, so you just go with sausage. I get it. Well, I'll tell him next time I see him.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Oh my God. I was just glad he didn't freak out. Yeah, because if you had told him that he just ate a bug, it may have ruined your night. Ruined the evening, yeah. It wouldn't have been about the stars anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Get a Best Buy gift card of up to $200 on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. Okay, let's start with- What do you want to do? With a question from Cain's cab driver. Bud Ice, y'all. At Bud Ice, y'all. What's the proper amount of time to honk
Starting point is 00:21:16 as somebody when the light turns green and they don't go? I give them a five second courtesy, but my wife gives them three seconds. Oh, but they're both tiny. Now, I can't say that I have an immediate answer. I'm gonna have to arrive at something because they've talked about it and are like in a constant count.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I just can't live that way. I go on feel. Yeah, you go on feel. You go on feel. I think it's, yeah, cause I mean, if you're gonna do a count, then you're obligating yourself to do a count every time. And then most of the time you're wasting all this energy
Starting point is 00:21:55 counting on someone who's gonna go before you get to three seconds. Certainly before, I mean, if it's two seconds, you're not gonna honk, but that's two seconds of counting in order to, I just don't like the spirit of counting, believing that someone's not gonna go. That's believing the worst in somebody.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I like to believe the best in people. So philosophically, I don't like this. And I also don't like it practically because I'm sitting there counting when I should be focused on driving. But in any given 10 scenarios where this happened, 10 times, and let's just say the person doesn't go and it's in the first three to five seconds, whatever,
Starting point is 00:22:32 how many times are you going to beep? Okay, let's say somebody goes five seconds, just based on your experience, 10 times, how many times will you beep in that scenario? I'm saying beep, honk, whatever your term is. First of all, I do think, I think three is too short. I think five is courteous, but I'm actually adding a check into the cab.
Starting point is 00:22:55 If I can see that they're looking down at something, probably their phone. That's the only thing I go on. Then it's, so it's five seconds, like waiting long enough at a green light to make me look in the cab and determine that they're not looking at the light is however long that takes, that's when I'm honking.
Starting point is 00:23:11 When I feel like they need me to honk is when I honk. You know what I'm saying? Like at that point, it's not that I'm giving you a courtesy by waiting to honk, I'm giving you a courtesy by honking because I'm saying, hey bro, the light turned green. I don't hate you. How's your new car? It's just, we're all in this together.
Starting point is 00:23:31 For like the friendly tap honk when you're just like, boop, boop, boop. How's your new car do with that? Have you done the friendly tap honk? I typically only do the, I can't remember the last time I did the lay on the horn thing. I did one coming back from Joshua Tree.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Really? Yeah, there was some merging situation and I knew from my GPS that we were about to hit some traffic. And somebody's just, you know, I'm slowing down and then all of a sudden, I'm barreling in there, like getting in between me and the guy in front of me, even though there's a line of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:04 five miles of bumper to bumper traffic, it made that much of a difference to get in front of me instead of behind me. I'm a pretty- And I laid on the, and it was this long. Hunk! That long. That's pretty offensive.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I'm a pretty reluctant honker because I feel like the vast majority of honks that people hear are not intended for them and freak them out because that's what happens to me all the time. It's like, who, are you honking at me? And then I'm like, oh, they weren't honking at me. But like, I'm not paying attention to driving. I'm thinking about who honked at me.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I'm wondering how many accidents are a result of an errant honk. So I don't hardly, I never do the laying on the horn unless, I mean, I'm not saying I've never done it, but I have to be like, this person just did something that endangered my life or someone else's life and at that point, I'm gonna honk. I think I felt that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Cutting in front of me, it's like, you may piss me off, but I try not to get too worked up about that. But I haven't, but the other reason I'm a little bit reluctant to honk with the new car is that it has this feature where you- That's the gas too. You can hook up an external hard drive to the car. What?
Starting point is 00:25:11 And it will capture your dash cam footage. And every time you honk, it records the last 10 minutes are automatically put onto the hard drive. So the- Every time you honk. So the idea is, if you were about to be in an accident and you honk the horn, well, or if you just, something just happened,
Starting point is 00:25:32 you can honk the horn, you're not thinking straight. You don't have to like go into the menu and hit record. You just honk the horn. And that takes the last 10 minutes of action that the dash cam has captured and puts it onto the hard drive. Because why not? I mean, who knows?
Starting point is 00:25:46 Somebody cut in front of you, you're in an accident, insurance stuff, whatever. But because I'm adding like footage to a hard drive when I honk. Oh, you don't like it. It's like this extra thing to consider. Like, do I want to record this? The car doesn't get heavier.
Starting point is 00:26:00 No, I know. I mean, it's like a- Oh my God, the car is going slower. It's like a 500 gig hard drive. It's not that big of a deal, but it feels like I'm making, it's like the fact that. It seems like something I would think. You will.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I'm surprised that you think that. You won't run the air conditioning on high because you think it's gonna break the air conditioning. Like you told me that one time. Don't put it on high now. It's not made to go on high. The max AC button. You don't like max AC?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. I'll do max AC all day long. Yeah. But the beeping of the horn to record the things. You've created a file. Yeah, I don't want to create a file unless it's absolutely necessary. Well, it's like when you hand your phone to somebody
Starting point is 00:26:43 to take a picture. Again, while we're doing the park thing, and you know, like one family member's taking the picture and I'm like, hey, just frame it up, decide, and then take one or two. One or two, huh? Don't take five or 10 because, and when they hand it back, what's the first thing I do?
Starting point is 00:27:02 I look at what you got and I delete the four to nine that I don't like. That's what the live photo feature on iPhone's for though. I've got that setting on my default. So if somebody blinked, I can just, it's still one file. I could just go back to where they didn't blink. But then if you hand your phone to somebody, they don't know that that's on
Starting point is 00:27:24 and then they're taking more photos and then you got, that bothers me. You don't like burst mode, I assume. Oh God, I hate burst mode. Okay, so we're agreeing. We don't think that there's a time limit. We think you should go on feel and sort of like take into account the environment on this.
Starting point is 00:27:41 But three seconds is too short. Your wife is jumping the gun. I feel confident in that. Your car also has a dog mode. Yeah. So Tesla has a dog mode. Have you tried dog mode? Put Barbara in the car? What does that do by the way?
Starting point is 00:27:59 When you put the car into dog mode, you can leave your dog in the car. And tell it where to go. Like go to Ralph's, give me some half and half. It will, this is a parked car, not a moving car. You leave your dog in a parked car. It does two things. The first thing it does is it keeps the ambient temperature
Starting point is 00:28:17 in the cabin something that won't kill your dog. And the second thing it does is it, when somebody comes up to your car, it senses that somebody's at your car and it puts a message on the giant display in the middle that says, I'm okay, my owner will be right back. So in other words, don't call the pet cops. I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I bet you people who care enough to call won't believe that sign. But you can kind of hear that the car is on when a dog's in there that sign. I think there's a- But you can kind of hear that the car is on when a dog's in there. Yeah. I mean, I haven't done it. First of all, your car runs all the time. Well, only if you put it in that mode.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Like if I go out to the parking lot, your car is like running. Only if it's in, it has a special feature where if the cabin gets too hot, it'll cool it down. That's cool. But it was so hot one day in the middle of the summer. Oh yeah. That it burned like 60 miles off the battery
Starting point is 00:29:12 just to keep it from being like 180 degrees. So you deactivated that. Yeah. So you haven't done dog mode and there's a sign that comes up that says, don't, just stay out of my business. My dog is fine. This is the Tesla.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah, my owner is coming back. I haven't used it. We've never- Cause dog lovers- We don't really leave- Dog lovers will, they'll get in that business. And I guess rightfully so because people- We don't leave Barbara in the car.
Starting point is 00:29:39 We take Barbara in the car if we're going someplace that Barbara is supposed to get out with us. Yeah. We don't just like, she's not an accessory that we just like throw in the car and then go into a grocery store or something like that. Yeah. So we really haven't had an occasion to use it.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And also the people who come up to your car, they're being recorded. This is a cool feature. I'm sure this is available in other cars, but the reason that there's a hard drive that you can attach to the car is that you put it in sentry mode. I'm not trying to do an ad for Tesla at this point, but it kind of is turning into that.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But you put it in a sentry mode, and what that does is it, anybody who like comes up to your car, opens their door into your door, it records them and then puts that on the hard drive. So if you're like, who busted this dent in my car? Oh, this guy in this car with this license plate. See, I'm a fan of having cameras everywhere. Like, you know, Big brother.
Starting point is 00:30:34 That was my favorite thing about London. I mean, when we got in traffic and all of a sudden, Chrissy, I was like, Chrissy, what are you looking at on your phone? She was like, well, I felt like I left the oven on at home and I'm looking back at our camera. To see if it's burning. Cause I got a camera in our kitchen.
Starting point is 00:30:54 But you probably can't tell. I don't know why. It is a heat sensing camera cause it's not gonna be able to tell if the oven's on. No, she said, okay, I'm going back here. Here I am turning the oven. She's gonna go back. Getting the stuff out of the oven.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And then she could actually zoom in and the way the camera set up it, she could zoom in enough on the oven to see that it turned off. Oh, wow. Yeah. HD, huh? It's got an oven cam. What was the last thing that filled you with wonder
Starting point is 00:31:19 that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic? Well, for us, and I'm gonna guess for some of you that thing is anime hi i'm nick friedman i'm lee alec murray and i'm leah president and welcome to crunchyroll presents the anime effect it's a weekly news show with the best celebrity guests and hot takes galore so join us every friday wherever you get your podcasts and watch full video episodes on Crunchyroll or on the Crunchyroll YouTube channel. Okay, I'm very interested in this question from Omni Draws. If you both didn't know each other
Starting point is 00:31:55 and saw each other for the first time in life, then would you talk with each other or even enjoy each other? You both aren't YouTubers, just two regular guys. Okay, we're just two regular guys, we're not YouTubers. Well, first of all, as Kiko pointed out, this is Buddy System season two. This is the premise for the season.
Starting point is 00:32:14 If you haven't watched Buddy System, check it out. There's a song in every episode. And you can watch it for free now. There's us acting. You can watch it all for free. It's all acting. Yeah. You can watch it all for free. It's all free on YouTube. It's all free. So Buddy System season two has nothing to do with season one. If you don't like season one, season two is better
Starting point is 00:32:33 and you don't need to have watched season one or to have liked season one to like season two. Correct. Man, so we meet for the first time. Here's how I evaluate this, right? But I don't know. On paper, there's a lot that would be working in our favor to be friends, assuming, okay, both from the South,
Starting point is 00:32:54 similar music taste, things that are just true about us that they may be true about us because we grew up together, but just assuming in the same way that on that episode of GMM where we like pictured the same color when we smelled, we have a lot in common in that way, but there's a balancing factor, and that is, me and you both have a tendency to kind of come into a social scene,
Starting point is 00:33:23 and I'm not talking about like a industry party. We did a whole episode on that about how you kind of are, I'm gonna go up to people and talk to them and I kind of like, you go do that. But in a like a friend of friends type party situation, I kind of feel like I bring a little bit too much of a critical eye into those situations where I'm not like, I don't go into those situations
Starting point is 00:33:52 thinking everyone here is a potential friend. Do you know what I'm saying? Well, I kind of feel like based on the conversations that we've had, like after we've gone to places together that you approach things in a similar way. Yeah, I think I do. I think there's a couple of factors here. It's hard to remove the fact that like,
Starting point is 00:34:13 we have such a strong friendship that whenever we enter those situations and evaluate why we're acting the way we're acting, one factor is we don't have a strong felt need to make friends with people. I mean, we're busy and we have each other. I mean, and we each have other friends. We share a bunch of friends.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And then, you know, there's some that's like, okay, maybe you have more of a connection to this person than me or vice versa. But then it's like, so there's not really a felt need beyond that to keep adding people. Because the second thing is neither one of us at this phase of our life are extroverts. We're both more introverted.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And I also, I actually think we feel, we may feel more introverted than we actually are because of the previous reason. You know, it's, I do get energized by talking to the people that like I enjoy being around and like the friends that I'm closest with. And you know, I miss your game night since COVID that like, because that was a place where
Starting point is 00:35:20 like our larger circle of friends, we would hang out and like, I'm missing that. like our larger circle of friends, we would hang out and like, I'm missing that. But if you, again, you take COVID out of the situation too, I'm just not looking to make new friends at all. Right. But if you- But let's remove that.
Starting point is 00:35:38 If you remove all of that, I think we might sense what might be like, oh, I could be friends with this guy that we could pick up on some of the things you're talking about. Like, oh, I got a similar, like, I think we have a similar vibe, right? Like if we still have like our looks about us
Starting point is 00:35:58 and our wits about us. And I don't think it's a friend making vibe. That's my premise. I think it might backfire. I think it might be the type of thing that's like, okay, we're operating in a similar circle. This like- Very self-aware. It's like this is,
Starting point is 00:36:14 this, what's the saying? It's not too many cooks in the kitchen, but kind of like that. It's like this room isn't, this town isn't big enough for the both of us. I think it's what we might sense. So it's just like, I'm not gonna talk to that guy. I feel like that, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:28 I feel like my mentality on that has changed a little bit. Okay, so just think about this with taking North Carolina and then taking Los Angeles and contrasting the two. So Los Angeles is filled with people who think they're the shit, right? And in a lot of ways may have been the shit at some point in their life where they live somewhere else and then they move to Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:36:54 You got all these ambitious people who kind of consider themselves, they have a disposition to be famous, which already makes you a certain kind of person. Yeah. Now again, whether we like it or not, we both have a disposition to want to be well known, right? It's one of the reasons that we do what we do.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And that's a certain kind of person. Is this what I'm supposed to say, speak for yourself? Yeah. And I think that it's almost, if we met in North Carolina, and I don't think we bring that kind of energy into a room. You don't bring that kind of energy, I don't bring that kind of energy.
Starting point is 00:37:28 In fact, I kinda don't want people to know what it is I do or my back, I kinda prefer entering into a conversation with people not knowing the deal, right? Like, okay, yeah, I have a YouTube thing and now I have to explain it or whatever. So I don't bring that kind of energy, but I have changed the way I feel about that.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Like I kind of look beyond that because sometimes you would like go to a party and there's somebody who's like a huge personality and they're like, all of a sudden, there's a crowd around them. I try not to get intimidated or turned off by that because I feel like it can happen really easily in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:38:00 But you wouldn't do that. You wouldn't be like that. And I don't think I would be like that. So I don't necessarily think- Yeah, I think we would both be quieter. I think it would be the type of thing where it's like, that guy looks interesting and he's not being loud. But-
Starting point is 00:38:15 So I think I would strike up a conversation with this tall guy who needs to be groomed. But you might not know, okay, because I get this a lot. My wife, people who are friends with my wife, my wife is like, she can make friends with like a can of beans, right? Like she's bubbly and she is super like honest
Starting point is 00:38:38 and like vulnerable with people, right, when she meets them. And so like us being in a relationship, like we have a way of making friends with people because people are gonna really gravitate towards my wife and she's gonna seem open and she's great at talking to people, right? So are you saying that you get people's first impression of you through her relaying it?
Starting point is 00:38:56 No, what I'm saying is that in contrast to her, a lot of times people who are her friends will say, I thought that Rhett didn't like me. That's what I'm saying. For the first year that you were friends. Yeah, maybe you didn't. And again, I'm not trying to step into this, but I feel like I don't consider either of us
Starting point is 00:39:17 a particularly warm person upon first meeting in a way that our wives I I think, are both more warm. Yeah. So sometimes it can be interpreted the wrong way and you might be like, this guy doesn't like me. Because in that type of setting, I'm just not, again, I go back to the motivation, I'm just not motivated to do the work
Starting point is 00:39:38 because it's work to connect with somebody and it's a big risk. I just think, you know, it's a lot of work to get to know somebody. And then you may not connect. Then you're just starting over. It's kind of like every time you get to a light that turns green, you start counting.
Starting point is 00:39:59 You know, it's like, that's a lot of work to count. But I believe in the end, the thing that, when we get to know new people, I feel like the thing that, for better or for worse, the thing that I'm looking for is, I'm not looking for it, but I'm kind of looking to not be annoyed by the person. Right?
Starting point is 00:40:19 And if all of a sudden it's like, oh, there's a personality thing about them or the way that they're presenting themselves that I could see that getting old quick. And I think this is probably, this isn't a super conscious process, but I think that's what's happening as you get to know people.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And I think that as different as we are, and again, this is probably because we've known each other forever and we've molded each other in a certain way, but assuming that we would essentially be the same person apart, I think that in a normal conversation, we would not annoy each other.
Starting point is 00:40:52 No. And so, and I actually think that that- I think the end of our first conversation would not be that far from any conversation that we would have. But neither of us are instigators when it comes to like, hey, do you wanna go play golf? Like what guys ask each other,
Starting point is 00:41:14 basically when guys wanna be friends and they wanna be friends with each other and not friends as couples, a lot of times- What are you gonna do? Your significant other, in my case, Jesse will be the one who's like coordinates the next time that the couples get together. And it's like, well, do you like him and do you like her?
Starting point is 00:41:33 But if it's just two guys, and then like what would step two be? Like, let's get together and play pool. You know, it's like, neither one of us have that in our like bag of tricks. Like, and again, we're super busy. I think a lot of times we'll be like, hey, let's get together and talk about this idea. Well, we'll do it.
Starting point is 00:41:55 It's like a project based thing, but we just don't hang that much. What you said at the beginning was something about, we like the same type of music, like the things that I did, what would be the opening conversation? First of all, I do think that I would probably, you know, be like, hey, I got, I'm in a good mood,
Starting point is 00:42:13 I'm at this place, I'm gonna talk to somebody, but who am I gonna talk to? I need, you know, what maximizes my chances in conversation to like connect with somebody. So I will look for somebody who looks a little interesting and it's like, okay, this, you know, that is the thing that I've enjoyed about LA is like you can go to some get together
Starting point is 00:42:39 and there's all these people that like, you can judge them on the surface and think that like that person looks weird or interesting. Well, everybody has taken more than the average amount of time to present themselves in a certain way. Like people have honed, honed, people have honed their way that they present themselves. And again, nothing against North Carolina
Starting point is 00:43:03 and it might make people, it might mean people are more sane but like, I mean, especially where we come from, you go to a party, it's like all the dudes are gonna be like kind of dressed in a similar, like they're gonna be on the same part of the spectrum. Sexual spectrum. Not talking about that.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I'm talking about the clothing spectrum. It's like all these guys went to the same section of the mall. All these guys go to the same kind of barber. You know what I'm saying? Because it's not a town of- People are showing off. Or, I'm gonna be benevolent here,
Starting point is 00:43:39 expressing themselves, you know, visually. Anyway. There's just not as much. I think what would happen is I would initiate a conversation. I'd be like, I just don't know what I would say. You mentioned music. If music was playing, I'd probably say something about the music.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I hate rock. What about you? Is this you too? I'm not really into this. Oh, you too. Yeah, I respect him, but I would like a little more soul. You been to Joshua Tree? Yeah, you know, Joshua Trees only grow at certain elevations, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 And sometimes people try to find the one from that U2 album. But then it wouldn't be like, "'Hey, let's get together and listen to music.'" You gotta be a close friend to say that. This is the most interesting question for me. And you end up talking about what's the next step in our relationship in this world that we-
Starting point is 00:44:29 Right, right, because then it's like, here's what we would, the easiest things to talk about, first of all, it's like, what do you do for a living? And we've already ruled that out, we can't talk about that. So we might talk about music, you end up talking about shows you're watching. I think we'd have a great conversation. About shows.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And then we would never talk again. I'm beginning to form a picture of what this, it would be like, yeah, I remember that Link guy, met at that party, like really interesting conversation. Like I wonder what he's up to, but I'm not gonna, I didn't get his number, I'm not gonna call him. And what would I do if I called him? He didn't wanna go play golf with me. Right. And you know, we're not gonna call him. And what would I do if I called him? He didn't wanna go play golf with me.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Right. And we're not gonna sit down and just have coffee. You know what I'm saying? I really think, I guess what it is, I don't know what it's like to be- Sitting down and having coffee could work, but that is a vulnerable move. I mean, that's asking a guy out on a date.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Right. It's like, hey, you wanna meet up for coffee? This is a question, hashtag Ear Biscuits for everybody listening because as guys who've been married to the same women for two decades, who grew up together, who have a pretty solid friend group, like I don't, there hasn't been, outside of like work-related stuff, there just hasn't been outside of like work related stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:46 There just hasn't been many of us like, what's the next step in a platonic relationship with somebody after you get, it's like, I feel like I'm asking a fundamental question because I don't have to worry about it. And I know that a lot of people, we feel to so many questions over the years, you talk about friendship,
Starting point is 00:46:04 a lot of people ask that question to us. Like, do you have any advice for making friends? It's like, I think what we're saying is it's never easy, but you've, you know, you're in a social situation and then you just find somebody that you size up that you feel like is kind of like you, you know, unless you've really made a decision to find someone who you just by judging them externally,
Starting point is 00:46:30 that they're not like you, that's a sad thing. Well, I think I would say you're looking for a point of connection. Point of connection. When you say like you, there's some kind of point of connection. Doesn't necessarily mean this person looks like you or is from your background.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah, like if they're making the same face, like they're judging this get together as much as I am. Yeah. I'm gonna go stand beside them and judge it too. Yeah, I don't know what we learned about each other in exploring that question, but it was- I think you said we'd be ships passing in the night. We'd have a great conversation,
Starting point is 00:47:04 but it would take something that I can't. It would take our wives exchanging numbers. To become friends. Yeah. Yeah, sadly. So we don't have to worry about that because we are friends. But you know what? If I needed, if I had a felt need for a friend, I would, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:47:21 I'd probably say something awkward like, hey man, I really like you. Let's hang out. Listen, I think I would be- I really don't, I don't have any close friends here. I think I would be ready to admit that too. If you have close friends, maybe you can introduce me to them.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Maybe I like them better than I like you. Can I use you as a way to meet your friends? I'm just joking. Can we get coffee? That's exactly what I would say. Right. It would be a self-deprecating, vulnerable exchange. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Tearless. I definitely would not, if I wanted friends, I wouldn't let that situation happen. I'd be like, hey, you know what? Cause I mean, I guess there have been times in my life when I've met somebody that I connected with and I was like, let me get your number. I don't know if I've, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:10 You're thinking of an instance? I could say I've done that like three to five times in my life. I was thinking of like our mutual friends from like game night and it's like somebody like Ward, that's somebody that we knew, we met through YouTube years ago. And then when we moved out here, we reconnected.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Right. And then you think about Daniel, it's like, okay, he was our director on Commercial Kings. We were introduced through work and then we just, you know, we don't talk all the time, but we keep in touch. Meaning that the scenario that we're talking about where you just meet at a party, isn't how we really made any of our friends.
Starting point is 00:48:46 It's like, it was a circumstance in which we were, it was work related and then we just had a connection. We were like, oh, this is deeper than just a work relationship. This is a friend. And then you just kind of lean into that. And it's still hard. Especially now.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Well, yeah, especially now. But like when you institutionalize the game night thing, that helped because every month there was a, you know. It shall happen again. Even if you miss a couple, you kind of know you can get back in there. And there's a few other friends, but it's not like, there's not that many.
Starting point is 00:49:21 You can only have so many friends, you know. Especially now when, like we've done a couple of like Zoom double date type things with a few of those friends. And then like we'd done a couple of like triple dates with like us and the McCargs or whatever. And that was happening with more regularity at the beginning of COVID.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah. And now people are just kind of like, we're just gonna, and it's funny. I know that it- It's fizzled out. It depends on what part of the country you're in and where you're at. Again, to continue the contrast with LA and North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:50:00 but I know back in North Carolina, things are very different from at least in terms of the way that my family is communicating to me about the way that their lives are different, but not that different. Whereas here in California, in Los Angeles, especially, like things are still pretty much the same as they were five months ago.
Starting point is 00:50:22 So we're not seeing, like if we're gonna see somebody like that, it'd be like, hey, let's all come over and hang out outside. But we haven't even done much of that. Because then it's like, okay, there's gonna be masks involved and it's kind of annoying. Yeah. And you're in this place where you're just not
Starting point is 00:50:39 that motivated to make things happen. Well, and the thing, I think what I'm thinking right now is for someone who had just moved, and this is probably the situation for lots of people, if you just moved to a new place. It's horrible. In the midst of this, and you are the kind of person who is taking it seriously
Starting point is 00:50:58 and trying to maintain social distancing and masks and stuff like that, your ability to make new friends is really impeded right now. Wow. Something else we haven't had to worry about. You know what, it'll be over at some point. That's all I can say.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I can also ask another question. Autumn. Hit this one right quick, because I want to address this. We don't have to spend too much time on it. Skylar Bradford has tweeted at Mythical, but this is for me. As a Utah resident, I can't get over how Link was saying
Starting point is 00:51:37 Zion in your latest podcast. It cracked me up. It's Zion to the locals. That's been on my mind for a few days. Zion. Zion. Zion. Zion.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Zion. Zion. We like to hit the second syllable, man. Yeah. It is a little bit of a Southern, Zion. It's not always a second syllable because we would say unique, not unique. That's true, yeah. Unique. We pick a syllable and we go hard. we would say unique, not unique.
Starting point is 00:52:07 That's true, yeah. Unique. We pick a syllable and we go hard. Yeah, on the wrong one sometimes. Taco Bell. The reason why I say Zion is because in the Lauryn Hill song, she says Zion. Yeah, Mount Zion. Zion, Zion is just, that's a local thing,
Starting point is 00:52:24 but Zion means a whole lot more, not just for Mormons. Zion's not just for Mormons anymore. Well, you're saying that because it's in Utah. Yeah, the Mormons named it Zion. Right, but Zion is in the Bible as well. Yeah, I know, I was just saying. Which means it's probably in the Book of Mormon as well. I don't know. I don just saying. Which means it's probably in the Book of Mormon as well. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I don't know the full origin story. I know there's a lot of stuff from the Bible in the Book of Mormon though, right? The Mormons named everything in the park. Really? Yeah. I think the indigenous peoples probably also had names for everything.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Matter of fact, I know they did. Right. But you know, let's not get into that. Zion. I'll try, man. Skylar, I will try. For you, I will try. Zion. Zion.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Not Zion. You going to Zion? Zion. You going to Zion? Zion. Yeah, I'm on my way. I'm a local. Okay, science question that intrigued me. This is from Autumn7Autumn5 on Twitter. Why does warm water feel so much better than warm air? A really hot shower is awesome,
Starting point is 00:53:31 but if I were in a 100 degree room, I'd be uncomfortable. It's a great question. So I looked up just to make sure that the way I was thinking about this, and I didn't have it, I didn't completely understand what was going on. I think a good place to start is, let's start with a lower temperature.
Starting point is 00:53:49 So if you're outside and it's 70, well, 70 degrees is the approximate temperature at which a human feels comfortable in the air, right? If the air is 70 degrees, it's like most people feel pretty comfortable. And that is based on the idea that your body is doing all these different metabolic processes that is generating heat and you're dissipating the heat
Starting point is 00:54:12 through a number of processes, like the blood flowing close to the surface of your skin. So you kind of give off a little bit of heat, you're breathing and there's hot air that's coming out of you and or you're sweating, you're perspiring and so you're cooling yourself down. Don't forget the gold standard. Farting.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Farting releases a lot of methane, as they say, across the pond and heat. So it turns out that the reason you feel comfortable at 70 degrees in the air. It's like a blow torch down there. Is because all these things that are happening in your body is in a good state of equilibrium. Well, it's not- At about 70 degrees.
Starting point is 00:54:47 It's actually cooling. There is a gradient, not an equilibrium. Well, no, when I say equilibrium, I mean, I'm talking about the process of you dissipating heat. Is it a place where your body is doing it most efficiently and you're not having to do it too little or too much? You're not having to reserve the heat
Starting point is 00:55:03 and you're also not having to cool it too little or too much. You're not having to reserve the heat and you're also not having to cool yourself down and make yourself uncomfortable. The body is doing this in the most efficient manner. The rate of cooling. Is what makes you feel good. Makes you feel good. Because if it gets cooler, if it gets down to 65, you start to, it starts to suck heat out of your body
Starting point is 00:55:21 to a point where. Now you gotta put clothes on. Okay, yeah, now. I gotta do something to alter this. I'm getting signals that I'm uncomfortable because this could lead to, if this continues forever- I could die. I could die. Or if it gets too hot, it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:33 oh, well, we really gotta sweat. We really, we gotta breathe harder. We got, so, and that makes you feel uncomfortable. But you know that if you're in ocean water, that's, or water, and that's 70 degrees, it's gonna be cold. Ooh, that's 70 degrees, you can be like, ooh, that's cold. It's too cold. So what exactly is happening?
Starting point is 00:55:48 And it all comes down to the heat transfer. That's right, everything we said should apply to 70 degree water. No, and it turns out that water feels perfect at 93.5 degrees. That is the- Seriously? That is the temperature that most sensory deprivation tanks are set at.
Starting point is 00:56:07 They set it at that temperature because your skin doesn't sense the presence of water because it's, well, for whatever reason, you are basically in that same sort of state of equilibrium at 93 and a half degrees in water. But of course, if it was 93.5 degrees outside, it would be hot. So what's happening is the heat transfer coefficient
Starting point is 00:56:31 of water is 50 times greater than that of air. So basically what's happening is you got this body that's operating at 98.6 degrees on average and generating this heat and it's releasing this heat. And as soon as you get into 70 degrees of water, it's sucking out 50 times as efficiently. And so that's why you immediately feel cold. And if you stayed in that 70 degree water
Starting point is 00:56:56 for any good length of time, you get hypothermia. But let's go up to the question that was asked, which is a hundred degrees. So here's the thing. If you get into a 100 degree hot tub, if it's 100 degrees outside, it ain't gonna feel good. You're gonna get in there and you're gonna be immediately hot.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And usually what happens is you get into a 100 degree hot tub and it's like less than that outside. But what do you do? Do you get into a hot tub and go under and stay under? Then you get in and you're like, it's getting kind of hot. I gotta get my arms out. I gotta get my head out of the water. And so your arms and your head are dissipating heat
Starting point is 00:57:32 into the ambient air, which is what, 70 degrees or whatever it happens to be outside. It's really nice when it's like 45 degrees outside and you just skied all day and you get into a hot tub and it's like snowing or something like that. That's great, right? Remember when we did that? And because that's because your body
Starting point is 00:57:47 is dissipating all that heat. I do. And you're kind of in that state of equilibrium, but you still get the benefit of this like hot, soothing water around your skin. So the reason why warm water feels so much better than warm air is because of the coefficient. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Because of the heat transfer. 50 times seems like a lot. Yeah, but I mean, think about it. It's also like the heat transfer coefficient of metal is a lot higher than air. So that's why if you like, if it's 70 degrees and you wrap yourself in 70 degree, like metal, you would also, it would feel cold to you and it's because it's pulling, it's pulling that body heat out as well.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I don't know how that compares to water, but yeah, the difference between water and air is the heat coefficient. But once you get up to a hundred degrees, you're actually getting to a place that the water and the air are technically higher than your core body temperature at that point. So you're trying to dissipate that heat all the time, but now you're dissipating it into an environment that is hotter than your own body temperature.
Starting point is 00:58:58 So it's really starts working hard. So when you're in a hot tub, even if you feel good, you're actually sweating quite a bit. There's a lot of sweat that's happening. There's a lot of blood flow that's happening in the parts of your body that are near the surface as well. That's what makes it good for you. I guess.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I would have thought because water is more dense than air that it would serve as more of an insulation that it wouldn't, it's like wearing a coat. What's the coefficient of a coat? Well, I don't think that the insulation factor and the heat transfer is necessarily the same thing. Because if you were to put like, okay, if you were to fill a wall,
Starting point is 00:59:42 if there was a wall around you in your house, right now you fill it with insulation because that keeps the heat from going through it. So does that mean if the heat transfer coefficient of water is higher than air, if you put water in the walls of your house, assuming that was possible, that it would do a worse job of keeping you warm or cold?
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yes, I think it will. It seems to be. Because a vacuum is the best insulator. That's why if you- Like in a, they'll put a vacuum still thermos. Right. Or like if you have like double pane windows and they could put a, well, they put argon in there
Starting point is 01:00:21 or they'll, I don't think they'll create a vacuum. That's why you can get in a sauna and get it up to 200 degrees or whatever. You can get a sauna up to like 220 degrees, which is above a boiling water temperature. But you cannot get in a hot tub that's over 104 by law, I think. Right, if you get into 150 degree tub of water,
Starting point is 01:00:44 you're gonna burn your skin. If you get into 150 degree sauna of water, you're gonna burn your skin. If you get into 150 degree sauna, you're gonna be like, this isn't hot enough. I want it to be hotter. Yeah, that's the proof right there. I know you're not full of bull crap. You want a wreck, baby wreck, baby one, two, three, four. I got a music wreck for you.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Now I've already given you this music wreck. So I'm giving this to everybody else. Have you gone back and listened to this? Cause- I don't remember which one it is. Fine, I'll give it to you again. Good old Willie Nelson has a son. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Lucas Nelson, Lucas with a K. And he has a band called Lucas Nelson and Promise of the Real. And I think- It's a great band name. I think there's, it's, I think they're kind of a jam band kind of a situation. Promise of the Real definitely is the name
Starting point is 01:01:36 of what should be a jam band. And I'm talking about like a Grateful Dead. They say it sounds a little Grateful Dead. Promise of the Real, cause it's got like, when you talk about what's real, it seems like something that would- And the promise of it.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah, that you'd wanna like really get in a jam band situation. By the way, you talk about famous country music singer, Sons. We connected with Merle's youngest son and we got a record yesterday sent to us and it was a Shooter Jennings record and I was so excited to report to you
Starting point is 01:02:15 what Jenna reported to me and it was like, oh, there's two Shooter Jennings records here and there's only thing it came with was a post-it note and the post-it note, it said, thanks for occupying us and giving us a lot of laughs on the road, dash shooter. Shooter. Freaking Waylon Jennings son, Shooter Jennings, you know, he's an artist, producer, musician, mainstay,
Starting point is 01:02:45 in his own right. Freaking wrote us a note and said that he watches us and sent us his album. So now we gotta connect with Lucas. We gotta connect with Lucas Nelson and you gotta connect with, Lucas may not be happy that I'm like, I'm recommending one of like the earliest songs
Starting point is 01:03:06 that they put out. This is from 2014. I'm just obsessed with this song, it's called Find Yourself. It's a good one. It's off of the album called Sampler. It's basically, it's three songs on it, but it's presented as a single from 2014
Starting point is 01:03:23 with a couple of other songs. You know, the phrase, I said it on the show, "'You're a sweet peach, know your worth." That's basically the premise of that song. He's like, I'll let you listen to it. But the thing that hooked me was just the groove of this song, it's got a really good groove. And then you got this, it's like, whoa,
Starting point is 01:03:46 this is kinda sounds like freaking Willie Nelson singing, but a little bit different. And he doesn't say sweet peach. He just implies it. Yeah, he doesn't have to say it. Know Your Worth. Know Your Worth people, check that one out. That's, it's a good groove.
Starting point is 01:04:01 If you don't like, if you don't like his vocals, because you know, then you'll start to like him. Yeah, then that's your problem. That's your problem. So that's my rec. Thank you for your questions. Keep sending them in, we'll keep answering them and talking about other stuff, life in general.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Hashtag your biscuits. You did good. Where you been? Looks like she woke up. I was talking to the dog, for those of you listening. Not me. He didn't just tell me. I did a good job.
Starting point is 01:04:32 You did good, Rhett. Just like you just woke up.

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