Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 278: Amazing And Inexplicable Coincidences | Ear Biscuits Ep.278
Episode Date: March 8, 2021Â Is it just a coinkidink or is it actual magic? The guys explore amazing and inexplicable coincidences from mysterious dreams coming true to seemingly fateful encounters on this episode of Ear Biscui...ts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast
where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time.
I'm Rhett.
And I'm Link.
This week at the round table of dim lighting, we.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're gonna talk about coinkydinks.
Yeah, we asked you,
what was the exact wording of the question?
I don't know, I don't have it in front of me.
Have you experienced a mind blowing coincidence?
you experienced a mind blowing coincidence.
A set of circumstances that are inexplicably wild.
Like something, you just can't, it's a coincidence beyond explanation.
And then my kind of follow up question is,
and what did you do about it?
Like, how did it impact your life?
I don't know, you just hear stories of people who are like,
well, we lived in different countries.
And then, well, I did hear this story.
You know, this was the inspiration for the question.
I just happened to be listening to the talk radio
a while back.
And there was some story about this couple whose parents,
I think the guy was like, he fought in the Vietnam war
and he met and fell in love with a woman over there.
And then they almost got married and then they didn't.
And then there was no contact at all.
And then years later, their kids got married.
And then they realized that their parents
almost got married.
Of course, if they did, they never would have existed.
Right, and then getting married
would have been really weird.
That's crazy though.
And I remember we devoted a whole episode of GMM to that, like we set a balloon.
A balloon.
We put a note in a balloon because-
There's an incredible story about-
Incredible story that we don't remember.
And I don't remember the details.
We don't need to rehash it because it was in-
It's a balloon that went in the air
and did some crazy things.
So we asked you-
Brought people together in a really crazy way.
For your amazing coincidences that-
Well, let me just say before we,
oops, before we get started,
that we don't have any balloon stories.
I thought you were gonna say, before we get started,
we don't believe in coincidences.
I'm just gonna say.
Everything happens for a reason.
I'm just gonna say that.
We can talk about that.
I didn't know exactly what to expect.
I'm not saying that. My hopes to expect. I'm not saying that-
My hopes were high.
I'm not saying that these stories are not amazing,
especially to the people who experienced the things.
But they did not meet my expectations.
No, I think that it's a different-
I mean, the story I just shared about the couple
that didn't get married so their kids didn't exist
and didn't get married.
Yeah, y'all didn't give us one of those.
So what we're saying is, you know what,
scroll through your podcast.
If there's something else that you were like
almost about to choose.
No, I actually have a point that's not-
Stick with us.
Gonna encourage them to like make things up next time.
And that is, coincidences are significant because they are uncommon. Co coincidences are significant
because they are uncommon.
Coincidences are significant because they are rare.
It is not every day that you find out
that the parents of you and your spouse
almost got married in a foreign country.
Are you, you're reacting weird to what you just drank.
I'm sorry.
Well, I was trying this new type of coffee
that you pour a little coffee in the bottom, a concentrate,
and then I added cream and then I added hot water.
And I think it stratified
because I just drank enough of the coffee
to realize that I have not been drinking anything
but creamer and water.
Well, that's not bad.
Well, it's gonna be quite a grim for now.
Do you need to stir it with your finger or something? I was looking for something to stir it with. anything but creamer and water. Well, that's not bad. Well, it's gonna be quite a grim for now.
I was looking for something to stir it with.
I looked at your finger, looked back at my finger.
Stir it with your finger.
I looked at the Mythical Comb here.
Kind of an early promo.
I don't wanna do that.
You could stir it with the back of the Mythical Brush.
You know what, I'm just gonna drink it.
It'll stir up in my stomach.
Okay. I apologize.
All I was saying is that I'm not surprised
that every single person who listens to Ear Biscuits
and chose to contribute a Coinkidink story
doesn't have some mind blowing thing
because if everybody experiences it would be absolutely,
it wouldn't be mind blowing anymore.
It would be normal.
Our minds would just be blown all the time.
And then everybody's like, big deal, big deal.
That would just be the wind.
But for me, this is more a study in
what, when you just ask an average person,
what is their most significant coincidence?
It's like, oh, I see how that
is really significant to you.
I don't necessarily know if this is gonna be like
featured on NPR, but I also think that,
I think that we can determine whether or not
these are just random coincidences or actual magic occurred.
Oh.
Because I feel like we could be authoritative about that.
Okay, so is it a coinkydink, a full blown coincidence,
or just unequivocally magic?
Yeah, yeah, right.
And when we say magic,
that's just a general umbrella term
that don't read too much into that.
That could mean, is the universe trying to tell me something?
Is this a personalized message from God?
Hey, hey.
Was it orchestrated?
Or as you would say, was it or-gust-rated?
Or-gust-rated, yeah.
You know, so, or was it just coincidental?
Hit it.
Let's get started with Laura Carlisle.
I've been with my partner four years
and we constantly find ourselves saying the same thing
with the same inflection at the same time.
For example, I'll be thinking of something random
that has no correlation to him like,
hmm, I wonder how snails mate.
And next thing, he starts a conversation
on how snails have sex.
Is it coincidence?
Have we just got so close?
Let's not call it snail sex.
Let's stick with the word mate when it comes to snails.
I just don't think it's dirty enough to call it sex.
And I celebrate that there's a dirty side to sex. I imagine that snail sex is especially dirty.
Have you ever looked at a snail trail?
Slimy's not dirty.
Says you.
Hey, they don't need any external lube, I guess.
Boy, we've done it.
Have we got so close that we're becoming one
or are we unknowingly communicating silently
like the way trees communicate
and share with each other
through tiny fungal threads under the soil?
Well, first- I like you, Laura.
I can answer your question at the end there.
Unless you see-
Laura's not afraid to talk about snails,
sex, or tiny fungal threads in soil.
Now, first of all, what she's talking about is this,
this is incredible what they have discovered
about these fungal networks that communicate,
that trees communicate with each other.
Several podcasts, news reports, articles
have been written about this by this point,
about this by this point,
and the idea that trees communicate with each other
and share resources and a tree that is in need
of more sunlight will communicate with one
that has gotten more nutrients
and like it's all being done through these fungal networks.
Which are the largest living organism on the planet.
There is one that is considered to be, I guess,
in terms of just like area.
If you do not see fungal threads attached
between you and your partner,
then I am assuming that that is not what is happening.
Incidentally, that is how snails mate.
Fungal threads?
Yeah. Because they're so slow?
It was a joke, Rhett.
I'm not gonna actually, I can't defend my statement.
Well, actually, but no,
is that what makes it a funny joke?
Because they're so slow?
Like fungus has time to grow on them
while they're bumping and grinding?
It was more of a like it felt funny
than you thought funny.
Well, I think it's actually still funny
the more you think about it.
Bonus.
This is not magic. I'm just gonna go ahead and say that about it. Bonus. This is not magic.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that right off the top.
This is not magic.
This is just being in the same place.
If you're thinking about something
and then somebody brings something up,
there's something that neither one of you have seen,
have identified that you've both been exposed to.
So it's a coinkydink.
You know, it's like you weren't talking, you know, it's like,
you weren't talking about it and it wasn't obviously,
you're not both looking at snails mating
or one snail that's lonely, you know,
but at some point you were both exposed to snails
in such a way that something then-
A sexy snail.
Sexy snail, and then something triggered it
in each of your minds at the same time.
And so on a subconscious level,
you were subconsciously triggered
by something snail sex related,
that then when you have the thought and you,
well, and then he had, and then he made the statement,
you can't, you're not drawing it back to the connection, but it's there, it's made the statement,
you're not drawing it back to the connection, but it's there, it's under the roots, it's in the soil.
And I do believe- It's a good analogy.
That snails, otherwise known as escargot
when they are eaten by the French.
Leave it to you to consider everything
in its final food form.
They are an aphrodisiac.
I don't know if that's true or not, but it feels right.
So-
You're trying to take my joke thing and just-
No, no, no, this is not a joke.
So I think-
Exactly, you're trying to assert something
in the same way that I make a joke.
I bet you it'll just feel funny.
No.
I bet you what you said feels right,
but if you think about it, it doesn't make sense.
I'm just giving a plausible explanation
for this specific coincidence.
And that is, I already did that.
You guys were, no, you didn't give a plausible,
specific explanation.
You said you experienced, I'm saying,
Give me an example.
I'm saying what they experienced specifically
that led to this conclusion.
And that is, they were watching a program,
it was a television show,
they call it program in some places.
Okay.
And it was about, it was a nature documentary.
And there was something, not a snail,
but something snail-like, like a slug
that makes most people think of snails.
Yeah. That was featured.
They both watched that.
Right, they did. Between 48 and 72 hours before this coincidence.
Then the second thing that happened was
they both saw something about French cuisine
and somebody said something.
In a long list of things that were aphrodisiacs,
Escargot was an aphrodisiac.
Or it could just be something as simple as
they had watched a nature documentary
and then when they were in separate rooms,
they began, as partners often do,
began to think about what would it be like
to have sex right now?
Oh, maybe we should have sex.
That's one of the things that happens
when you are in a relationship.
When you're sexually active.
When you're sexually active.
It's like, well, maybe we should have sex right now.
We should activate sexually right now.
And so those things got jumbled up
in the way that they get jumbled up in your mind
before a dream and they just happen to happen
at the same time.
I mean, nothing to write home about here.
Just kind of cool that you guys are in sync with each other.
Maybe it's a pandemic thing,
but I definitely have seen there's more of that dynamic.
It's like, what am I gonna do now?
I'm at home like I've always been
with the same people I've always been.
One of them's my wife.
This is your thought process?
We could have sex.
That's how your brain works.
And then I send her an email. From a different part of the house? That's how your brain works. And then I send her an email.
From a different part of the house?
That's just how, that's how we set it up.
Okay, it's very formal.
It's like that way, you know, it's like you gotta both,
you gotta sync your wavelengths.
That's best done through email.
I call it a naughty gram.
I would think that texting works better in this scenario.
It's not formal enough.
Okay.
Well, my dad always ends his texts with love dad,
like with a salutation, is that what they call that?
Is a salutation the beginning?
Sign off.
There's an official-
Where are we going?
I'm just saying that you can make a text very formal.
You can say, dear Christy, I'm in the other room.
Thinking maybe we should-
Have sex.
Sincerely, your husband.
Link.
Shanice LostGirl23 on Twitter said,
not mine, just to get that out of the way,
but my parents were, this is kind of like your Vietnam story,
were Flower Girl and Page Boy,
now we'll come back to Page Boy,
to the same wedding because my dad was the nephew
of the groomsman and my grandmother was friends
with the bride.
My parents are not related.
Ha ha ha.
Sweaty emoji, sweaty laughing emoji.
They only realized when they got married themselves.
Okay, so they only realized when they got married.
There's no connection between the two families.
What about page boy?
Can we go there?
Is page boy mean the ring bearer?
I'm gonna say-
Or do they bring a pager to this wedding?
Yeah, I think it's on a pillow,
but it's the pager instead of a ring.
Because he was a doctor or a drug dealer?
The guy getting married was a drug dealer and-
No, he's just an EMT.
He's an EMT.
I was a ring bearer in my aunt TC's wedding.
You remember it?
No, I don't remember it.
Of course, you got all the wedding pictures
and I had a pillow with the,
I guess both rings were on it.
That's a lot to entrust like a little child,
young enough to not remember it.
And also like, I'd have trouble not eating one of the rings
the way I was at that age.
I would just put things in my mouth.
I mean, I was like-
I guarantee you that's happened.
I was four years old.
How many ring bearers swallow the ring every year?
I was smart enough to not eat a ring.
And then they were like, oh crap,
well, we have to delay the wedding.
How long does it take a ring to get
through a toddler's digestive system?
Hmm.
Or do you just have the wedding and then be like,
let's do it, we'll just do like a temporary ring
or a pager in this case.
Maybe that's what happened.
Were you ever a ring bearer?
How many weddings have you been in, just by the way?
How many weddings have I been in? Well, the way? How many weddings have I been in?
Well, you were in my wedding.
As a child, none.
I was only in my aunt TC's wedding, I believe.
My first wedding that I was in was my brother's.
Which might be the first wedding that,
you weren't in that wedding.
Well, I wasn't in Nicole's wedding.
You came to it though.
Well, yeah, I attended the wedding.
I think.
Yeah, it was in Indiana. In Indiana, we drove to Chicago, remember that? That's right, yeah. Unauthorized. That. Well, yeah, I attended the wedding. I think it was, yeah, it was in Indiana.
In Indiana, we drove to Chicago, remember that?
That's right, yeah. Unauthorized.
That was awesome, yeah.
We actually drove to Indiana.
We picked up your granddad.
He was thumbing.
Well, no.
He got it backwards.
My granddad picked us up.
Yeah, we were hitchhiking.
We were in Rensselaer, Indiana,
and my grandfather, my dad's dad, who lived in Michigan,
who we didn't have the best of relationships with,
I had seen him maybe once in my life,
he decides that he can make the drive down to Indiana
to see my brother get married.
And Link and I had driven a car
from North Carolina to Indiana
at like age whatever we were, 17 at the time.
17 probably.
And, but then for some reason, when we got there,
we no longer had use of the car
because somebody else was using it,
my dad or Cole or somebody.
Yeah, they needed the extra car for something.
And at that point, me and you were like,
let's explore this town. We're not staying here.
Well, and well, well.
We're not staying here at the rehearsal or whatever.
Yeah, we drove to Chicago.
We did that. Yeah.
But I'm saying other than driving to Chicago,
we were walking, after we got rid of the car,
we were walking around in Rensselaer, Indiana,
and an old man pulls up and rolls down the window,
and it's my grandfather.
Talk about a coincidence.
And I literally have seen this guy once in my life.
And he's like, you need a ride?
He knew who you were. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, and we my life. And he's like, you need a ride? He knew who you were.
Yeah, and I was like, yeah,
and we got in there and he was like,
I don't know about this town.
It's got more churches than liquor stores.
You remember him saying that?
Cause I was in the car, I don't remember that.
I remember like, wow, to be Rhett's granddad,
this is kind of a, this is kind of a-
Weird interaction. Cold relationship.
I mean, I didn't know him.
Yeah.
But I'll never forget that line.
There's more, he didn't, I don't know about this town.
There's more churches than liquor stores.
Yeah, that was how he judges how comfortable
he would be with a town.
And after that, did you ever see him again?
I don't know.
Maybe, I don't know.
I don't think so.
I think I saw him twice.
I think I saw him once when I was probably like 10
and then once when my brother got married.
He didn't show up for your wedding.
He did not.
He did not show up.
I've never even thought, really thought.
I mean, we literally had very little relationship with him.
It's not like a broken relationship
that I used to remember him and it was broken.
It was just never, it never happened.
So I don't really think much about it.
Except for that story. What a coincidence.
Which we do think about occasionally.
Yeah, right.
If he wasn't in town for the wedding,
that'd be one hell of a coincidence.
Exactly, exactly.
Oh, what are you doing here?
But again, I think this is a really cool story
for your parents, and I'm sure your parents
tell this story, Shanice, to friends, acquaintances.
But if you're connected to people in a town who get married
and then like,
well, they didn't realize it until they got married.
That's what makes it weird.
Like maybe they didn't live in the town
or they moved away or something or I don't know.
But this is- I need more details to be wowed.
This is not magic.
I mean, ultimately what we're saying is
this is just a coincidence.
It's cool, it's cute.
And your parents, they have a really cool story
that they can tell, but it's not magic.
No magic occurred here.
I think this is a good one.
Jen Everson at Jenny White-E,
or Jenny Whitey, I don't know, double E at the end.
My husband and I went to the same uni.
Uh-oh, your British is showing,
or I don't know, wherever,
your non-American use of university.
We don't say uni here.
No, we don't.
It just, it kind of reminds me,
it's like saying like any Audi or uni.
It's like a third type of belly button.
Right, yeah. My husband and I went to the or uni, like a third type of belly button. Right, yeah.
My husband and I went to the same uni,
but didn't meet during that time.
Near the start of our relationship,
we were walking past the house I had last lived in
and he told me he had also lived there
only five years earlier in the same bedroom.
So crazy, what a small, weird world.
Well, it's not as weird as if he would have said,
you know what, I live there in this room.
And I'm a vampire.
Under the bed that you slept in.
Yeah, right.
And you just never knew it.
That's pretty cool.
I mean, you get married, you have this, you know,
obviously you found this connection,
you found your soulmate,
and then you realize that you slept in the same place
only five years apart.
I have a theory here that I think might hold some water.
Magic?
It's definitely not magic.
This is all science.
Now, you know, having made an ad for sleepbetter.org
back in the day to try to get people to replace their pillow. Now, you know, having made an ad for sleepbetter.org
back in the day to try to get people to replace their pillow,
just how many dead skin cells a person sheds.
A lot.
Okay, okay, what's happening?
Recently, I was watching something
and they were talking about dust and they were like,
in your house, if you just go up to a shelf,
like a top shelf that you haven't been to in a while
and you run your finger across that dust,
a very high percentage of that dust, if not most of it,
is dead skin cells from the people who live in the house.
Wow.
Now I just heard that one time.
And maybe it's not true that it's the majority, but a lot.
And the number of skin, the amount of pounds of skin
that you shed in a week,
you just are getting rid of a lot more of yourself
than you realize.
And every nine years, your entire body is new.
Every single cell in your body,
even the ones that take a long time to like turn over,
like your liver cells, everything is new.
So while your husband, now who lived there first?
He also lived- He did five years earlier.
So your husband's living in this bedroom.
He is just shedding himself all over the bedroom.
I mean, he will forever, he's still in that bedroom.
He's shedding the bed.
He's shedding the bed, he's shedding the bed, he's shedding the walls,
he's shedding the ceiling.
Your husband is all over this room
and it's almost like the essence of husband.
Might be a different bed.
I was probably, definitely not the same bedding.
No, it's not, he's the walls.
But the walls. Walls, the floor,
definitely the ceiling, nobody dusts the ceiling.
Oh.
And then you go. I do.
Into this room and you live
for some specified period of time.
And we already know.
Your skin cells and his skin cells make a skin cell baby.
That's not what happened.
That then.
You can't get pregnant that way.
It flies around like a fairy
and introduces the two of you together.
Now you're getting into magic.
Now here's another scientific principle at play.
I think we talked about this.
We tried to do an episode of GMM about this
and it didn't work.
It was one of those experimental episodes
where we had different people wear different shirts
and then you smelled them and decided if you were like,
we tried to guess who it was,
but it was based on a study that had been done,
which is based on people's pheromones
and sort of like just general body odor,
different people are attracted to different sort of,
for lack of a better word, flavor profiles of other people.
I don't think that was science.
I think it was just some person who we had on the show
who said they could do a personality profile
based on what people- That was different.
Okay.
But no, but no,
because there was a study that was done
where it was like,
if, okay, say if me,
as a heterosexual man who is attracted to women,
were to smell 10 women's shirts that they had worn
and I rank them according to which one,
which smell I was most attracted to,
if you were then to show me those women,
I might, I would be more likely to order them
in my level of attraction to them based on the smell.
Like that's what the study kind of in general said.
Huh.
So what I'm saying is that I believe that-
We almost did an episode of GMM called
do white people smell like cheese? We did, we did. That was pitched to us, but we never did it. We almost did an episode of GMM called do white people smell like cheese?
We did, we did.
That was pitched to us, but we never did it.
We decided against that.
But spoiler alert, we do.
Jen, what happened in your situation
is your husband had shed in the room
and you breathed him in over the course of the time
that you lived there.
And whether or not
you had a natural connection with that,
just exposure therapy, being exposed to the leftover husband
that is in that room over the course of the time
you lived there, you became primed.
Developed an affinity.
Yes.
It's just like when you're trying to get rid
of a peanut allergy and you give a little bit of peanut
to a person over a period of time.
So now it's like her husband is the peanut.
She doesn't have an allergy to him,
but in the same way that you can get rid of an allergy,
you can enhance an attraction.
And that is precisely and scientifically
and definitively what happened in this case.
And that is why you're together today.
I actually wonder if it's the opposite.
I wonder if she was still,
well, if she was still living in the room
when they started dating, he would have known that.
I was hoping you would back me up here.
I am gonna back you up because my road dead ended.
I'm gonna be very- Fairly quickly.
I'm just gonna be very specific.
I mean, I don't know if it's skin cells, but like-
Oh, it is.
I think it's like this, like,
even if it was like a scent thing,
that then when she's,
like there's something about that room
that like a part of him made the room smell a certain way.
And then five years later, maybe it still smelled that way.
And then he smelled, she smells smells him in real life later.
And it's just another, it's a comforting connection.
She smelled seashore, I smelled the seashore.
We got to smell the goo.
Is all that gonna be magic?
I don't know.
It definitely enhanced their connection.
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Okay, Joe Scott.
I only ever washed my first car twice.
Both times I did this,
I had minor accidents three days later.
I've never hand washed a car ever again.
Now this is not a coincidence.
It's an excellent reason not to.
This is a superstition.
This is different.
This is a superstition.
It's a correlation, but it's not a coincidence
because you did something
and then something happened three days later.
A coincidence is when like things come together
that are completely out of your control
and that you can't ritualize it.
That is superstition.
I agree, but do you,
when was the last time you hand washed a car?
Have you hand washed any of your credit cars?
Not in LA. I don't think I've ever hand washed any of your credit cars? Not in LA.
I don't think I've ever hand washed a car in LA, no.
There's so many car washes around.
It's like, it's part of the economy.
Agreed.
Back home, I mean,
cause they, I mean, with the water restrictions,
they wouldn't let you just hose down your car.
For lots of time, it's like,
you can only wash your car certain days of the week.
And I'm like, well, screw it.
I just won't wash my car
unless I'm getting somebody else to do it correctly.
I mean, I don't wanna get in an accident
three days later either, by the way.
I've hand washed,
I probably hand washed my car
four times since being in LA.
Do you have a brush?
Yeah, I went on Amazon and bought like a little
like $20 kit that was like a bucket full of like the thing.
Do you like the idea of washing your own car?
No, there was a specific reason.
Oh, I know what it was.
I know what it was.
What?
I went to one of these, one of the normal washers.
Okay.
And some of the drive-through washers
and then some are the like, you pull up
and you do the spray and you kind of dial in
and it's got the brush that the soap comes out of
and then you spray it off.
But both of those, both times,
because they never get completely dry,
I got, and this was like on a new car,
I got those and this was like on a new car, I got those-
Water spots.
Water spots, and you can see, my car is gray,
but it's a dark gray.
Your car is like light tan or whatever the color is.
You probably got water spots, you just can't see them.
Those water spots drove me crazy, and I was just like,
oh, I'll just wash it again and I go back
and wash it again.
I was like, maybe it was just something about not drying.
No, the same thing happened again.
And then I'm going online and they're like, well.
You have to dry it.
Yeah, I know you have to dry it,
but you have to hand dry it.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
So you bought a whole kit just so you could hand dry?
No, I had to wash the car to get the water spots off.
So you bought a whole kit to wash the water spots off.
And then I was out there and I was like-
And then it didn't help.
No, it did.
And I was like, this is kind of fun.
Playing some music, kind of felt like a California guy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like out in the driveway.
It's an American movie type situation.
And I was very conscious of the amount of water I use.
I didn't use that much water, but I also,
I'll pass on this unsolicited piece of advice.
I didn't understand how important it was
for the temperature, for it to not be too hot and sunny
when you're washing your car.
I know it seems like something
the California guy wouldn't say,
but if it's in the 90s and you wash your car,
water spots all day long
because you can't get it off fast enough.
You need to wait until it's in the 70s
and you definitely need to do it
in the late evening or early morning
when the sun is not shining directly on that stuff
so it doesn't dry immediately.
And that changed my world.
I don't remember seeing so many car washes back home,
but out here, yeah, you would go through the thing
and then there would be the hand wash part.
And then there's like a swarm of people
that just hand dry the whole car.
Yeah, you're talking about taking it
to one of those places that you get out of the car
and it's driven through and then somebody dries it.
Yeah, I've done that for sure.
Because the ones that like at the gas station
that you drive through, don't go to that.
No.
I'm not saying don't go to that
because of the thing people worry about
with like their paint job.
I don't care about my paint job.
But I'm just saying that the drying is important.
And there wasn't even a coincidence involved.
CV Films at Techno Boy 652.
Once I was driving in this parking lot and got cut off,
forcing me into a curb, which popped my tire.
I start driving away and realized the tires popped.
I like how he's using the term popped.
Popped the tire.
So I pull across the street into a small parking lot
to inspect it.
I looked up and I'd pulled directly into a tire store.
This might be magic.
Well, that's serendipity, you know.
You pop your tire and then you,
I mean, it's kind of like,
I remember the one time that I was driving,
back in North Carolina,
I was driving from Holly Springs to Apex
and I got pulled over by a cop.
And I had to find the right bit of curb to pull over on.
And when I finally found it to pull over,
the cop behind me the whole time,
I looked up and it was the police department.
I was at the police station.
I'll go straight, just book me now.
Yes, I remember that.
So I know the feeling.
So it's like, you feel the need to explain.
That's kind of a different feeling.
You feel the need to explain.
I didn't mean to, I didn't even know this was a tire shop.
I just, you know, it's just here I am.
Well, I think that this is all about perspective.
You got the guy who has busted his tire, popped his tire,
who pulls in and he's like, isn't this awesome?
And this is crazy.
This is crazy that it has pulled into this tire place.
And the tire guys who work at the tire place are like,
oh, there's another guy who thinks it's a great coincidence
that he popped his tire on that curb
that busts everybody's tire.
You know what I'm saying?
I think they might have spike strips.
They might be drawing- It's intentional.
Yeah, they might be drawing people in.
Might be more than just a curb, you know what I'm saying?
It wasn't just a curb.
It might be- Or sabotage.
A tire Ponzi scheme.
A tire popping Ponzi scheme.
I bet you they didn't do that.
Let's believe the best.
I mean, this is, it is a good feeling.
The thing that did excite me about talking
about coincidences, coinkydinks, large and small,
is when you experience it, there's like this elation.
It's like, I'm at a tire shop.
This is so perfect.
Like this is lined up.
You know, most of the time it's like inexplicable,
but for it to be so serendipitously service oriented
is really nice.
But even when it's just kind of crazy,
like, man, we were in the same wedding as kids
and now we're married.
It feels cool.
It feels cool, right?
Yeah.
I mean, do you remember,
the main coincidence that I'd love to hear again
is the wild horses one,
and we can get back to the tire guy.
What was the last thing that filled you with wonder
that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic?
Well, for us, and I'm going to guess for some of you,
that thing is...
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Hi, I'm Nick Friedman.
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Okay, the wild horses story. Because this one highlights perfectly
the thrill of experiencing a coincidence.
Like you may not know the meaning,
but you feel like there should be a meaning
because it's just so crazy that it happened.
And it's a shared experience that when you tell it,
it's never as good as when you experienced it,
but it brings up other people's experiences.
So you at least you can share in that.
And that's what I want.
I don't remember what year it was.
Let's just say 2005, because it was in the alts.
Okay.
I'm with my brother-in-law, Chris,
in a boat at the North Carolina beach,
specifically in the sound between Emerald Isle
and the mainland near Beaufort, North Carolina.
Okay.
This is a new boat that Chris has gotten,
he bought from his brother, I think.
So we're kind of like feeling like this freedom of like,
man, we just, we got a boat,
we can go anywhere on this intercoastal waterway.
Yeah.
And that's not like an expression I made up,
that's the thing.
So we're in the boat and you know,
the coast of North Carolina
has got the outer banks, but it's not just the mainland
and then like a long strip of,
there's all kinds of little islands all around
if you look at the map of the coast, right?
Mm-hmm.
Some are small, some are big,
there's just a bunch of them.
And as we're kind of going through the sound,
I see these little marsh covered islands,
some have trees on them.
And I'm like, you know, there's an island
somewhere on the coast of North Carolina
that has wild horses on it.
And Chris is like, no.
I'm like, yeah, like there's,
I think it has something to do with maybe like the Spanish
came over here hundreds of years ago
and some horses got out and now there's like
a wild population like a herd.
Undomesticated.
Of wild horses that live on some island.
I was like, I don't think it's anywhere around here,
but there are wild horses somewhere.
So, I mean, we moved on,
we started talking about other things
and then we just start going, like, he's like, you know,
got the pedal to the metal,
we're just flying through the sound.
You can't hear anything.
We're playing the radio,
the whole time we've been playing the radio,
but we can't hear anything when you're going full bore.
And we're going past this island
and all of a sudden we look to our right
and out from like behind a tree, this horse
like comes up and like,
comes up and like turns sideways
so that like we can see the whole horse body.
Wow.
Like it's displaying itself to us.
What did he say?
The horse said nothing.
Okay.
Chris immediately stops accelerating.
And the boat slows down and we're just idling.
And we look at each other like what in the world?
And he's like looking at me like,
I can't believe this is happening.
Then because the boat is no longer making any noise
because we're idling,
we hear the song that is playing on the radio.
And the song that is currently playing on the radio
is Wild Horses by Rolling Stones.
Crazy man.
That's crazy.
And then do you remember what you did?
You just kind of, you looked at each other wide-eyed, right?
And you were like, are we really here for this?
Right?
Yeah, it was mind blowing.
It's a great feeling.
It was mind blowing.
It's kind of, it's like, it's a strange mixture of what?
Awe, fear.
There's like a little bit of fear in it, right?
It's like, you start to feel like, is there meaning?
You have a choice.
Is this a puzzle?
You have a choice in that moment.
And the human tendency is to attach meaning to it, right?
Sure.
Of course, it is questionable what the meaning would be.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, well, what is the lesson from the universe here?
What am I, am I supposed to like write a letter
to Keith Richards?
I don't know what, like, what is the point?
We just would kind of reveled in the coincidence.
And also with, you know, me and you're the same way,
I'm also thinking, man, I've got a hell of a story to tell.
You know, he's like, I can't wait till we get back home.
Was it just one horse?
Because typically there's like a whole herd.
Well, I think we ended up seeing another one,
like eventually we saw some other ones.
Sure wasn't a deer.
It was a horse and it was called Shackleford Island.
And that was it.
Which is known, yeah, which is known as having-
You didn't even know that was it
and you were just shooting the breeze earlier having heard-
I had heard like a radio story about it or something.
But go with me here because there is something to that,
this strange mixture of emotions
associated with experiencing something,
you know, so wild and so horse-like.
Well, and I think that maybe-
There's awe- There's a rush.
And a rush that's almost,
it feels a little bit like fear,
like you're on the edge of a building kind of a thing.
There's like a physical response to it.
Do you think, and I don't like to be-
Like dribble pee in your pants.
I don't wanna be overly reductionistic
and to say that, and I know that there are some people
who try to like point to the very specific
like evolutionary advantage that-
Of meaning making?
That led to this.
I mean, and I know that there is a scientific explanation
for the significance and also the sort of mental response
that we get to coincidence.
You know, guessing that there's a lion in the bushes
and there being a lion in the bushes,
that's good, like that helped you survive.
You know what I mean?
That's probably overly simplistic.
But it could have something to do with that,
that being able to recognize and attach significance
to seemingly random things is helpful
for your survival, but it could just also be that it just is an amazing, it helps you connect socially.
Because me and my brother-in-law have this story
that we'll tell.
We will tell if we're in the right place,
the right time, you know?
I mean, it is, when Chris and I were on our van trip,
I think that's, again, I was thinking of,
I think there were wild burros like throughout like Utah,
Arizona, California, lots of little donkeys running around
in those open spaces.
And it reminded me of the story you just told.
And I was telling Christy the story
and I was playing my Spotify playlist and-
The song Wild Asses from 2 Live Crew.
The song Wild Horses came on as I was telling the story
and I had not played it.
I didn't select the playlist
knowing that it was in the playlist.
It was a really long, automatically generated playlist.
And yes, I was in 70s classic rock playlist.
But still, there's a lot of music in that genre.
I mean, we weren't freaking out when it happened,
but it did give me a little boost.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
I think the main thing is when you experience
something, a coincidence,
like don't hold back on the celebration part of it.
Enjoy it.
To me, that's the thing, like squeeze that lemon,
milk it for all it's worth.
Like, you know, just really smush the teat.
Well, I think that's why- It's fun, like, you know, just really smush the teat. Well, I think that's, you know, I think that's why.
It's fun.
I, so.
Cause like when we, we'll do that a lot.
Like we'll turn things into a coincidence.
Well, that's what I'm getting at.
Like this fortune cookie is telling us
what we should do with our careers.
And then our eyes will get big and we were like,
God, what does this mean?
Well, but I'm talking about more than just that.
Cause we don't, we were talking about this.
We don't remember what the fortune cookie said,
but we had a significant fortune cookie experience
at some point.
But I don't know if I've told this story.
Not significant enough to remember.
But also at the beach with my wife's family,
not on the same trip, but with our friend Mike
that we've been camping with a number of times.
Yeah. And we were eating
and we had finished corn on the cob
and we had all these corn cobs.
Okay. And for some reason,
we just got the idea that we were gonna,
from the third floor of,
the third floor balcony of this beach house,
we were going to throw corn cobs
and try to get them to land in the middle of the road
between the double yellow line.
Okay, yeah.
Okay.
So this equals-
Littering.
A big pile of corn cobs all over a road.
Unless the first one you throw-
No.
Rolls, hits the road and rolls and comes to rest
right between the double yellow lines.
The first one I threw.
The first one Mike threw.
First one I threw.
First one Mike threw.
And the funny thing is, Mike is amazing.
Mike has been with me for about four or five weird things
that have happened like that.
But what I'm saying is that.
You know why?
Then that's the great thing about Mike.
Because I knew Mike would go nuts if it happened.
Well, but also earlier than that,
it's like, you know what, this is worthwhile.
Like this stupid idea that is on the edge of impossibility
is just, this is a worthwhile endeavor.
You know, so I would even say,
I'm even celebrating that part of it.
You've got someone around who's like,
you know what, this is, yeah, this is what we're gonna do.
And, and there's something about
if you hold your mouth just right,
and if you have, if you,
it's like you brought this confidence to it,
this like, I know what the experience
of that corn cob landing just right,
it would be like, so you, I bet you, I wasn't there,
but I bet you set it up like, we're gonna throw this
and you know, you're inventing something crazy.
Like it's gonna land parallel right in between.
You're setting something up that's unlikely.
And so that if it does happen, you're just gonna be awesome.
I mean, and then-
To happen on the first thing is like, I mean,
I assume you erupted in celebration
for a prolonged period of time.
Of course we did.
And then-
And I also assume you didn't try it anymore
or did Mike say, I'm gonna do it too?
I can't remember, but more recently,
Mike came to stay with us in our house we live in currently
and we're like telling the boys stories about,
so I can't remember most of them right now.
That's the craziest one, but we've done things like that.
Usually involving throwing something at something
to see what would happen.
But this-
I mean, that's a long standing tradition.
I think it's from when we were kids.
I think it's a-
Yeah, well, I did a lot of things where it was just like,
I'm gonna throw this rock at this pole.
And if I hit it, the answer to this question is yes. It was kind of my magic eight ball. Yeah. I did a lot of things where it was just like, I'm gonna throw this rock at this pole and if I hit it, the answer to this question is yes.
It was kind of my magic eight ball.
Yeah.
I did a lot of that, but we were telling
Lock and Shepherd the story and then it turned into,
okay, we're gonna throw the basketball on top of the house
and it's gonna come down and bounce once
and then bank into the basket, the basketball goal.
And it did not happen on the first try,
but we committed and we took like an hour
and we finally got it.
And because our roof is terracotta,
so you can't predict the bounce of the basketball.
It's got a plink of nature.
Anyway, but yeah, so I love setting that stuff up
just because it's cool and for me,
it's about the connection.
Yeah.
With somebody else.
Yeah, that's the great thing about it.
If you're just by yourself, it's not any fun.
If it happens by yourself, it's just a little freaky.
You might connect by telling a story about it later, but.
I got nothing else to say about the tire story.
Let's go to Mythical Crew members.
I guess Kiko put this to crew members,
oh, maybe they follow us on Twitter, you know?
I mean, it's not a prerequisite for working for us,
but hey, do you follow employees?
Because I, as a policy, don't.
I have sort of- We haven't discussed this.
I have a general policy of not following employees,
but I realized that it wasn't always my policy.
And so there was a time in which I did follow some people.
And then it's like,
if somebody has been with us for a really long time,
sometimes I'll be like,
I think I should, I don't have a good policy on this,
but I probably should just, I should have a policy.
You don't follow a good policy on this, but I probably should just, I should have a policy.
You don't follow anybody as a policy.
No, I don't.
I think my policy is not great
because it can open me up to favoritism.
It seems like I'm showing favoritism.
Yeah, you gotta go in there and unfollow people.
Unfollow the people who work for you.
Okay, all right.
It's like a, it's a, you know,
it's a personal professional boundary.
But I mean, that being said, you're still being watched.
And I'm talking to you Mythical crew members.
Oh yeah, right.
Annalise, producer on Mythical Kitchen now.
Okay, yeah.
She tweeted a shortened version of this,
but I know the complete story
because I watched the Chase-hosted Good Mythical Crew
podcast that's exclusively on the Mythical Society.
And Annalise was one of the producers on,
like people who were fans first and then became employees,
that's the episode they did.
And I really got to, I mean, you got to kick out of that.
But she tells the story of, and I'm gonna mess it up,
but I'm pretty sure she just moved to LA.
She moved in with a roommate.
She did not know this roommate, if I remember correctly.
And then she like,
she was a fan of ours and we were making that
Lionel Richie, we sing all night long, all night long,
Lionel Richie's all night long.
And at one point, even though we were filming it constantly
for like all 11 hours,
at one point we go into this house party
and there's all these people that we wanted to come out.
So we put a call out to fans in the LA area
who wanted to show up at like 2 a.m. at this house
that we were gonna walk through singing all night long
and they were gonna start singing along with us.
And that's a big scene in the video.
And Annalise is just a fan and she's like,
oh wow, I'm just moving in today
and tonight is when I gotta go.
And she's like, I know this sounds weird,
you're my new roommate and she tells her roommate
that she's like, I'm fans of these guys, they're doing this music video.
So I'm gonna be going to this house party music video thing
at like 3 a.m.
And her roommate's like, I'll go with you.
And this is like when they first met.
So they both go and yeah, she tweeted,
I was at Rhett and Link's all night long,
4 a.m. house party, 4 a.m., playing a kazoo, and now I work for them.
And I'm trying to remember-
We did not hire her that night.
We didn't meet her that night.
But you can see her in the music video.
Somebody had to coordinate what the crowd would do
when we walked in because we couldn't not walk.
We couldn't.
Yeah, we had someone there who was like
organizing the crowd and getting them-
So when we walked in, they would know what to do.
Getting them to rehearse,
getting them to rehearse and everything.
Because we left the house, went into the front yard
and then went out on the street.
And they followed us down the street.
In the middle of the night in this neighborhood.
Yeah, and then we got in a car and kept going.
I'm sure we made some people mad.
It was wild.
But Annalise is in the video, right?
If you watch that scene, you can see her in the video.
And then years later, years later.
Cause that was a long time ago.
Yeah, she works for us.
It's quite, I mean, I think that might be magic.
And she did not tell the story in her job interview,
which wasn't with us.
So it didn't, she didn't get any brownie points for that.
That's probably, you know what?
It's probably wise to not tell that kind of story
in your job interview.
Yeah. Like I got a weird call from Rhett and Link years ago to show up at a of story in your job interview. Yeah.
Like I got a weird call from Rhett and Link years ago
to show up at a house at 4 a.m. and I did.
Unless you showed up on a wild horse.
Read Jenna's.
Okay, I gotta bring this closer to me because-
Well, it's fine print.
The text is small.
Jenna, who works for us,
LOL,
I have a good coincidence story that guys might like.
Few years ago, after taking a break from assistant work
for about a year, I thought to myself
that I was ready to maybe assist again
if I liked who I worked for.
I didn't tell anyone.
Didn't tell anyone.
The next day, my best friend, Laura,
texted me about these two men.
Two men.
Whose hair and makeup she was doing for their show.
Talking about needing an assistant,
she threw my name out there.
Those men were Rhett and Link.
First of all, I just appreciate she's saying those men.
You know, we get called boys a lot.
And sometimes guys.
Yeah.
Those men, Rhett and Link.
Well, that's part of her job.
We told her that she has to call us that.
Remember one of the first things we told her
is they always refer to us as men.
The men.
Because somebody needs to.
Well, this is a coincidence that I'm very glad worked out.
In fact-
I mean, she didn't tell anybody.
She didn't even tell Laura.
In her job interview, well, first of all,
she was recommended by Laura who we trusted
and spent a lot of time with.
And especially when it comes to having someone
Touch your face.
Who's gonna be, well, well, I was gonna move beyond that
to say somebody who's your assistant,
there's got to be the ability
to kind of click with them personally.
Yeah.
And not only did they have to be good at their job,
but you need to be able to get along with them.
And Laurie just kind of saw it, she was like,
you know who would be perfect for this?
And so that did a lot to kind of prepare us
for liking Jenna.
And then her job interview was essentially
coming to the Mythical Christmas party that year.
She was Laurie's guest. As Laurie's plus one.
Yeah.
And of course, I felt a little bit awkward
about turning meeting her at this party into her interview,
but of course you didn't.
No, I didn't.
I was like, what else am I gonna do here?
So we kind of conducted the interview.
Let's get this over with.
In a loud bar where there was a guy in the corner
doing bonsai because we thought that would be funny.
It was kind of nice because I mean,
Christy was there for it and then Christy ended up talking
to her and Laura more.
And so it was like-
Because Jessie and Christy needed to also like Jenna.
Yeah, that's true.
And just like-
She was gonna be working with them too.
And it all worked out.
But I didn't know that Jenna wasn't looking
for an assistant job until like in her mind the day before.
Right.
And you know what?
It's worked out.
Yeah.
Kiko, producer of this podcast,
who's sitting behind that in the glass booth over there.
Four years ago, it was a Friday
before I was gonna start my new job at Mythical.
I had the day off, so I hit up my college friend
of 10 years to see if she wanted to hang out.
She told me that she was waiting for a meeting
with this company that she had been freelancing for
for the past few weeks, and she was gonna find out
if she was going to be brought on full time.
I got really excited and told her I was gonna start
a new job on Monday too.
I asked what company to which she responded.
Mythical Entertainment.
Although Meggie and I have had many jobs together,
this was the first time where we both got hired separately
without the other knowing.
Somehow we can't seem to get rid of each other.
I want- Kiko throw Meggy into a story.
Meggy was in Kiko's ghost story.
A magic story too.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Lots of powers at work in Kiko's-
Well, I say based on the precedent of the ghost story,
that I can't just dismiss this as coincidence.
There could be something cosmic going on here.
I think that we just put out job postings
and like they're friends and they apply for the same stuff.
Oh, don't minimize it, don't minimize it.
Come on, Kiko, this is not,
I mean, like you said, you've worked together a lot before.
It's just, this is the first time you didn't know it.
Yeah, but think about it, the name of the company.
This is just-
The name of the company is Mythical Entertainment.
Okay, okay.
That alone gets you thinking a little bit.
You're right, right. Two men.
There's two men who run it?
Two men.
Willow Hub.
I'm sorry, Kiko.
You know what?
That was pretty awesome.
I think it's awesome.
Willow Hub tweeted at us,
"'Once I got a piece of paper and wrote down
"'what I would say if I was a teacher.'"
I don't know if that's-
But the specifics have not been provided.
I don't know if that's the result of an assignment
or like a prompt. That class period, the teacher copied my exact words.
It was almost like she was reading my paper,
but of course she couldn't,
because I still had it, I guess.
I freaked out and the recess, I was super nervous.
And then at home, I puked on the paper.
Okay, all right.
There's a lot here, lots of moving parts.
Wrote down what she would say if she was a teacher,
then the teacher just says what she's written down.
Look, I'm having a difficult time getting past
just the first part of the story.
Yeah, writing down.
So like, okay, I'm just trying to picture this.
You are- Moving on.
You wanna just move?
No, no, so-
You're not gonna figure it out.
You got a piece of paper and you write down
what you would say if you were a teacher.
And then her teacher said that.
But I can't get past the point one.
What is happening there?
What kind of, if that's an assignment,
what kind of assignment is that?
It's like the teacher's like, you know what?
If it's an assignment, then that makes more sense.
I want all of you to write down
what you think a teacher would say,
so psychically I can steal it and make my job easier?
If it was an assignment,
then the chances of coincidence go up significantly, right?
Because you go like, I don't know what grade this was.
I can imagine what a 10th grader
might think a teacher would say.
No, if this is just a person who is just deciding
on their own to just begin to write down things
that teachers might say, I don't,
what's going on there?
Yeah, that's-
Have you ever done anything like that?
Have you ever just said, you know what?
I wonder what a so-and-so might say.
I'm gonna write that down.
I'm gonna write it down on a sheet of paper.
Never, but maybe I should.
Especially if I find that I have control
over what then someone in that occupation says.
Yeah, if it's a-
I wonder what the president would say.
Here's the thing, Willow Hub.
If it was a magic piece of paper,
then you puked on it and you ruined it.
It could, that could have been the beginning
of you living an incredible life
where you could write things on this paper
and then manipulate what people would say.
And you just went home and puked on the paper
and presumably then tossed it.
I would say either that-
That may have been your chance
to live an incredible magical life.
Or just to be like a script writer.
Cause that's kind of what a script is.
Everything they say is something that then happens.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's what makes a writer being so awesome.
That's your calling, Willow.
Good luck with your stomach issues though.
I just, you know what?
I think this is a good stopping point.
No, I think we have to read the last one.
Oh, I feel like I'm gonna puke.
No, we have to read the-
Something about the gunk in the bottom
of this stuff I've been drinking.
No, we have to read the last one because this is the-
I think you just wanna say Brokeback Bitch.
That is the name of the Twitter account, Brokeback Bitch.
Okay.
I was calling you Brokeback Bitch.
Fine, I call you that too all the time.
Years ago, planning to intern far from home that summer,
I decided to rent a room online.
A few weeks before I left,
I had a very vivid dream about being there.
When I arrived, I had a strong feeling
I'd been in the room before,
but shook it off thinking of the dream.
I assume the photos from the listing informed the dream, but there were off thinking of the dream. I assume the photos from the listing inform the dream
but there were other details in the dream
that weren't in the photos.
Okay. For example,
I open, and this is all in the dream,
I open the nightstand drawer and saw a specific book,
tangled earbuds, folded pieces of paper, and a Q-tip.
Used? Doesn't say.
When I was moving in weeks later,
I opened the nightstand to put my things away.
Inside was that same book, tangled earbuds,
pieces of paper. Q-tip.
And Q-tip in the exact same positions as my dream.
It creeped me the hell out and I still don't know what to make of it. in the exact same positions as my dream.
It creeped me the hell out and I still don't know what to make of it.
And that was the day that I became Brokeback Bitch.
The Brokeback Bitch origin story.
Yeah, I think he's definitely a superhero.
But what's the power?
The power to predict what will be in a drawer?
I don't know.
It's like there's definitely a wild horse involved.
No saddle.
That's true.
I see you can bring it back to wild horses.
I haven't seen the movie, but I guess there's like,
I don't know.
I don't know.
Somebody's gay, I think.
I think at least two guys.
Two men.
There's something here, okay? There's something here, okay?
There's something here.
Now, four objects positioned in a certain way.
I'm just caught up on like open,
I don't like the idea of opening a drawing
and seeing a Q-tip.
Even if you can't tell it's been used.
But it's a dream Q-tip.
Just a lone, no, but then it was real.
And that's kind of, that's the weirdest part.
It came from a dream though.
Like why do you have one Q-tip in a bedside drawer?
That's just, that's disturbing.
Like unless it was like coated in plastic
and like in a plastic baggie or something.
Do you think this happened?
I'm just, I-
Let me just ask you that.
Leave me behind in Q-tip land
and keep going with the conjecture
because I don't know what to do with this.
Well, there are two, there's a number of possibilities,
but the two ones that I see are number one,
everything happened as Brokeback Bitch has said it did.
Right?
Meaning that this was the dream in the position
and then she saw in the drawer these specific things.
What are the chances that that is exactly what happened?
Now, I'm not questioning Brokeback Bitch's integrity here
because I do believe that Brokeback Bitch
is being honest.
Is being honest.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm just kind of saying,
I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.
But because the other explanation is that
in the moment of seeing the stuff inside the drawer,
she sort of projected what she's seeing now
back onto the memory as she accessed it
and accessed it in a way that made it seem
as if they were the same.
Scientifically, I don't know.
I think that's possible.
What that process is.
I think, I mean,
if there was a purpose to it
or there was some redemptive application to like,
and that kept me from, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah or enabled me to blah, blah, blah, blah
or enabled me to blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, or was the first sign of my psychic abilities
through dreams.
Or is there something about the specific book,
which again, all we see is-
Devoid of purpose.
Is it just a specific book or what is the specific book?
Should you have taken action?
Should you have taken the tangled earbuds, unplug them,
plug them directly into the end of the Q-tip?
Maybe something would have played.
I would have cleaned out my ears with the Q-tip,
then put the earbuds in and read the book.
And then use the folded pieces of paper
to take notes on the book.
But when you think about, I mean,
what I didn't wanna get to was what I'm about to say.
Well, good.
There's so many, you know, anything that can happen
in some point across all parallel universes does happen.
All the coinkydinks and miraculous things that line up,
it's just like odds, like statistics dictate dinky dinks and miraculous things that line up,
it's just like odds, like statistics dictate that it's gonna happen.
Like if you've got the whole, like, I don't know,
the more you study evolution,
the more you start to think that,
I think about that analogy of like all these like monkeys typing on a keyboard
and like, you know, and if you have enough monkeys typing,
then you're gonna get Shakespeare, is that what it is?
Yeah, but I don't know if that's true or not.
You know? Okay.
I mean, I'm not smart enough to figure it out.
But, yeah.
Can you dream random things in a drawer
and then it just, you know, it could happen.
It could be a total coincidence.
Could it mean something more to you
and it could it be an indication
of some sort of prescient knowledge?
I have a dream coincidence that I've-
But there's no purpose to it.
I've told the story before.
Does there need to be purpose to it?
I'm probably gonna get the details wrong.
I probably told this story like three times now,
but you know the story about my wife and I
dreaming about the same little blonde girl.
Yes, yes, the little blonde girl.
And then waking up at the same time, freaked out.
And both of us having just had a nightmare
that featured this little blonde girl.
In my situation, she was in an elevator
or she was in a room that an elevator opened up into.
And then Jessie, I can't remember Jessie's situation.
I told the story in more detail in the past.
And I don't know, me and Jessie were pretty freaked out
for a couple of days, you know, but that was kind of the,
again, that's sort of the end of it.
It didn't, if it didn't keep happening,
I never ran into a little blonde girl.
It wasn't a revelation of something,
some connection or some ability or.
Well, but I do think that I am open to the idea.
First of all, again,
I don't wanna be overly reductionistic.
So I am open to the idea that there is something,
that dreams are not just simply your brain
sort of rearranging itself and shuffling through
your thoughts as you sleep.
Is that the most likely thing that's happening?
Yeah, but who cares?
Who's interested in most likely, right?
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, is it really fun to just believe
the most likely thing for everything?
Or is it more fun to believe that, I don't know,
there's some kind of connection between the real world
and the dream world and some people have some insight
into that and like, let's lean into that.
Who's gonna get hurt if we lean into that a little bit?
I'm interested in that.
I mean, you got the way that the,
you know, sort of the native people from Australia
and the way that they experienced the dream world.
And I haven't looked into this very much,
but it's very, very significant.
It's essentially the sort of like the foundation
of the religion as far as I understand,
is the fact that there's this dream world
and I don't know, maybe Brokeback Bitch
like broke through into the dream sphere.
And we're just sitting here on a podcast talking about it,
making light of it, saying that it's probably just
she went back in access to memory
and made it up in her mind. saying that it's probably just she went back and accessed a memory and you know,
made it up in her mind.
Well maybe broke back bitch broke through, man.
Maybe that's what happened.
Who are we to say?
Do you believe?
Who are we to say?
Okay, fine, magic.
I'm open to it,
but I have never been scared
by a little blonde girl in real life.
Or in your dream again.
She hasn't come back to the dreams for either of us.
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Do you have a rec for us?
Oh crap, I forgot about the rec.
It's a show on Netflix that like,
Lily gets into all this murder stuff.
And of course I never got on the murder wave.
I never got on the murderer or the serial killer wave.
Like I'm just, I'm not into that.
Like I just don't, you know, that's not,
I don't like, that's too hard hitting for me.
But I did agree to sit down and watch
because Lily talked Christy into watching,
I Am A Killer.
Yeah, the interviews.
On Netflix where they interview people
who are committed murderers and they tell their stories
and then it's, the approach to it is mesmerizing
and very creepy, but also very insightful.
I'm gonna recommend episode one of season two
because they were talking about it so much
that I had to go watch it.
Now, it's not for everybody.
And if you're not into,
if you don't wanna stare into the dark soul of a killer
through her eyes and like, actually,
I quoted it last week when I was talking about, you know, like,
well, I don't wanna spoil it here.
Like I'm not gonna tell you the specific quote
cause it's kind of spoils the experience.
Okay.
We've watched a number of the episodes,
but an amazing like presentation
of this particular
convicted murderers story and the way that it unfolds.
It really draws you in and gets you to assess it yourself
and come to your own conclusions.
That's kind of how the series is set up.
I don't know that you wanna watch all of them
unless you're really into the psyche of murderers,
but the first one of season two is really great.
That isolated episode in and of itself
is just worth watching.
Really building it up.
Yeah, it's wild.
I am a Killer by No Coincidence.
On Netflix.
All right, we'll talk to you next week.