Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Do We Have Life Insurance On Each Other? | Ear Biscuits Ep. 357

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is mythical. Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card of up to $200 on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Link. And I'm Rhett. This week at the oval table of kind of a mix of outdoor and indoor lighting. It's very nice. We're going to be answering questions that we've never answered before that we asked you to
Starting point is 00:00:55 ask us, and I believe that we have the people who asked those questions present. Oh. Uh-huh. Right there. Oh. Uh-huh. Right there. So we actually haven't talked a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Yeah, how are you doing? Because we're moving around. We're going from thing to thing, getting ready for the next thing. How's your Mythicon, Rhett? Well, I just took some Pepto. I mean, I'm doing great. I also just took some Pepto. I mean, I'm doing great. I also just took some Pepto. Yeah, I saw that. I went up to Jenna, and she was in kind of a group of people.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I leaned in and said, can you give me some Pepto? What's happening for you down there? Well, hopefully nothing, and that's why I took Pepto. But then, you know, when you see somebody taking pills, do you just... That's not a good habit, is when you see somebody taking pills, and then say, well, can I have some of those pills?
Starting point is 00:01:54 Because that's what happened. Well, when I saw that you were chewing it, I was like, oh, it's a chewable. Yeah. That's really my jam. You have a thing... You know, I love to chew. Well, but also, you have a thing
Starting point is 00:02:11 where you don't really know when a pill is a chewable or a... What's the alternative? Swallowable. Swallowable. Swallowable? Yeah. And I've tried to explain this, that typically the flat discs are chewable and the capsules are swallowable. Right. And I've tried to explain this, that typically the flat discs are chewable and the capsules are swallowable.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Right, but I don't... I'm pretty sure you can chew everything. If you try hard enough, yeah. Like, I mean, when it goes to your stomach, it's like... Your stomach chews it. I don't know. I feel like I'm really getting the most out of whatever I'm consuming if I actually chew it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That's why I chew pudding. But no, I mean, I can see that you're concerned about my stomach, but it's totally fine. And Link's is very much fine. He's just taking preventative Pepto-Bismol at this point. It's great. A little bit doesn't hurt. And I think it makes your poops, like... real dark. Yeah, real dark. Makes your tongue dark.
Starting point is 00:03:12 It's like the color of your jacket. Hey, later on tonight on our main stage show, we can both stick out our black tongues. Because that's what happens when you put that Bismuth... whatever the active ingredient is. No, not yet. You gotta wait. Okay. Congrats on the show last night.
Starting point is 00:03:29 James and the Shame was awesome. Oh. That was a lot of fun. Almost too much fun all at once, too early. You seemed like you were having the time of your life. I was having the time of my life. Jessie was having the time of her life, too. Yes, she was.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I was watching from that vantage point over there for a little bit, and I was like, well, I don't want to be a distraction. I went away, and then I came back later to give approving nods of your performance. I felt those. But somehow, just based on what Charles said at the beginning of your podcast, it feels like me and Charles are in a little bit of a competition. I mean, I don't feel like I started it,
Starting point is 00:04:17 but he was talking about he didn't want to show me up and he didn't want me to show him up. Right, right. Yeah, he kind of stole your thunder when he made an appearance and everyone was cheering. For him, not you. Well, but I do want you to know, just to be prepared today for the next hour or so,
Starting point is 00:04:35 I don't have any barbecue sauce. I'm not going to do any dancing demonstrations. Man, he got Nancy up there. I love that. Pretty great. Pretty great, yeah. It's an absolute thrill. any dancing demonstrations. Man, he got Nancy up there. I love that. Pretty great. Pretty great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:48 It's an absolute thrill. Is that just like a typical Friday night for them? I think so, yeah. I love it. It seemed very automatic for them, didn't it? You want to answer some of these questions that we've never answered before? Yeah, let's get to some questions. You want me to read it? So what we'll do is we've got answered before. Let's get to some questions. You want me to read it?
Starting point is 00:05:05 So what we'll do is we've got a microphone down here. We think that everyone who has a question is present. We'll just ask it, and then we may ask you, why did you ask that question? Bonnie Stewart, right here. Bonnie's right here. We're going to bring a mic to you, Bonnie, but I'm going to read your question while the mic is coming to you.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So Bonnie asks, if you were a ghost, what location, item, or person would you haunt? Do you have life insurance taken out on each other? Yeah. That's kind of like a
Starting point is 00:05:40 hard left turn in the middle of this inquiry. I can see how those might be related. If you're going to die, who do you want to haunt? And does the other person benefit from your death? It's basically the two-part question. Am I reading this right, Bonnie? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I mean, basically, I like ghosts, so I have to ask. And then also, I work in entertainment production, and it's something my husband and I have always discussed. It's like, I wonder, basically, I like ghosts, so I have to ask. And then also, I work in entertainment production, and it's something my husband and I have always discussed, is like, I wonder if they do that. I figure you have to, but I'm just curious. Okay, well, let's start with the ghost part. You seem like a demented person. You're in the right place.
Starting point is 00:06:23 If you were a ghost, what location, item, or person would you haunt? Well, I mean, first of all, I think the most strategic thing would be haunting you. Right. Because I feel like it would be a way for you to, like, continue to have a vibrant career. Right. You could, like, lean into my ear and say, that one's not chewable. No, I'm just saying that. Ooh, that one is chewable.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah, I mean, I would definitely do that. I would give you advice. But I'm just saying that if you didn't want to have to rethink everything, it would be simpler for you if we just continued to be a duo, but I was a ghost. Kind of like that Smosh movie, Ghostmates. Remember that? Basically, we would just be following the plot of Ghostmates. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So T-Pain is now involved in this? Hopefully, yeah. Would people see you? You're not visible. So I would just seem very, very fixated on your memory. I think I would function like a typical ghost, which is, I don't know if it's real or not, and that's what a lot of people would think about you.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I think I would just call you my imaginary friend. Okay. Which is not far from reality, right? I imagine that you're my friend. Right now. I don't know how to feel about that. Well, I mean, do you imagine that I'm your friend?
Starting point is 00:07:56 I mean, I think... I believe that you're my friend, Link. Right, so... But if you were to think about it in an abstract way, you'd be imagining our friendship And doesn't that make me your imaginary friend? Okay, technically yes Yeah
Starting point is 00:08:11 We can be each other's imaginary friend, dude But who would you want? It could be a new aspect of our relationship Okay, we can talk about that later Whether or not we will become each other's imaginary friends. I know that you really like scaring people. Oh, I love it. I hate your question.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Because I don't like being scared. And I get afraid if I need to scare somebody. So I would just be the worst ghost. I think I would definitely need to scare somebody. So it's like, I would just be the worst ghost. I think I would definitely have to possess somebody. Is that an option? Demons can do that. Oh, demons. I don't think ghosts, you wanna be a demon?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah. That's a different question. I'd rather be a demon. I do think it would be fun though. Again, I don't really know what I believe about this, but if I died and was suddenly a ghost and I was like, oh, that is a real thing, I think I would haunt a very popular atheist like Richard Dawkins.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I would just give Richard Dawkins hell until he breaks down and he's like, aye, they're real! My life's work is ruined and then you're like it's just me Rhett that guy from the internet yeah it started out as a hypothetical question in a live ear biscuit right um I don't know why I'm using that voice is that the voice you would use no I probably keep my own voice. I mean, but it would be more ghostly, right?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Like, tell me to choose something. No, I'm not gonna do that. I know you're not my puppet. No, I'm not gonna, you can imagine that I did that. You're not as cooperative as my dad. Right. Okay, second part of your question. Yes, we did have an awkward conversation
Starting point is 00:10:06 with the people who help us make these decisions about insurance and such. And we do have an insurance policy on one another, which is pretty... It's wild, right? Think about it. I mean, because you get to a certain point and you're like, well,
Starting point is 00:10:23 what do we do if one of us kicks the bucket? Or when one of us kicks the bucket? And if it's sooner, I think the other person gets more money. I don't know. Is that how it is? I can't remember. Do we have it on us? Let's read the life insurance policy.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah, I don't have it. Like, there's, yeah, so if it's, it's if one of us, is there anything wrong with talking about the specifics of this? Well, only, of course not. Nothing other than the fact that you will almost definitely be wrong about it. Other than that, yeah, it's totally fine. I mean, there was,
Starting point is 00:10:58 it was probably like 40 pages, and then you just get to a point where you're just signing it and saying, okay, this is something about if I die, Christy takes over from me. Christy. Or she just gets the money that I would get. Based on the contract that I read.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And you gotta keep doing stuff. Based on the contract that I read, Christy might want you to die. It's not, I have a you to die. It's not... I have a lot to offer. She's going to be sitting very pretty. That's how we designed it. It's got to be some silver lining.
Starting point is 00:11:34 It's going to be really sad if one of us dies, but at least it's like, good gosh, now look at all this money. Here's the thing. We talked about this on the way over here, and we made sure not to tell Christy about this on the way over here, and we made sure not to tell Christy about this because we flew separately, so Link and I and Jesse were on, and Stevie as well,
Starting point is 00:11:54 were all on the same flight over here, and then Christy came with Shepard and Lando and Lincoln later. Right, because we didn't want them to miss school. And I was like, what if this plane goes down? Welcome to my world. She said, welcome to my world. The reason we didn't bring it up is because we didn't want you to think about this. But basically what would happen, and this is what we talked about,
Starting point is 00:12:18 was Christy would just be in charge. That's right, baby. She said, that's right, baby. And then very quickly it turned into that Christy was going to do something with Cassie, Stevie's girlfriend. It was going to be the Christy and Cassie show. And we thought that that would be pretty awesome.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yes, so there you go. The answer to your question. We literally had to think through all the scenarios. Like, well, if one of us dies, what if both of us die? We figured it all out. We're totally ready. Ready to die. Ready for it.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And haunt Richard Dawkins. Just like the Biggie Smalls album. Okay, next question is from Jasmine Lopez. Where's Jasmine? Oh, right here. Okay, I love this question, Jasmine. Nice hat, Jazz. Can I call you Jazz?
Starting point is 00:13:19 Jazzy. Jazz, Jazz, Jazz. Smooth like jazz. I could call you Jazzy, but that's what I call my dog. Keep it as Jazz. This is, there's a lot here. Smooth like jazz. I could call you Jazzy, but that's what I call my dog. Keep it as jazz. This is, there's a lot here. Peanut Butter Jane. Long-legged Peanut Butter Jane.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Can I get to the question? I'm allergic. I'll also call him that. I'll also call him Jazzy Jeff, DJ Jazzy Jeff Probst. Call him that. Jasmine says, my man and I broke up. Who gets to keep you? Oh.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Him that introduced me to you all, or me that fell in love from the second episode I watched? Oh. Oh, wow. So first of all, you're here. He's not. Exactly. And the tickets weren't his birthday gift,
Starting point is 00:14:02 but since we stopped talking, I'm here. So I thought that you would take a special interest in this because I'm very interested in this. You have a tendency, I've observed, to believe that if someone is into something, someone else close to them cannot also be into that. One of the best examples of this and the earliest example of this, was
Starting point is 00:14:25 when your stepsister, Emmy, just liked music. So you decided, you're like, I can't like music. She's taking music from me. Right. The whole vertical of music. Not a genre, all music. I remember
Starting point is 00:14:41 like it was yesterday when my mom told me that, she said, now, Link, Jimmy and I are, we're getting a divorce, and you're still gonna be my son. She didn't say that. And the first thing I remember saying was,
Starting point is 00:15:04 oh, thank God, I can like music again. I won't be related to that stepsister of mine. And now I love music. So it's like a lot of good can come from a really proper divorce. Right? You know what? You just, you know, you just, you know, sometimes, sometimes life gives you lemons.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And make orange juice and let the world wonder how you did it. You know what I'm saying? Okay, what's your perspective on that, Jazz? On the lemons? Just on, I mean, it seems like embedded in this question is the same principle that you feel like you both can't go on liking us in the same way.
Starting point is 00:15:56 No, because he looks exactly like you, so I'm stuck. Oh, he looks exactly like me? Well, then why'd you break up? Well, then why'd you break up? She saw the life insurance policy. Something like that. Okay, well, this has gotten very complicated all of a sudden. So it seems like you... Can you each choose one of us?
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah. And only watch, like... Like, you only watch like half of the screen? Do you want to watch Red or do you want to just watch me because you want to watch me because you're over him?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. I understand that. I mean, we did think for a while about selling some sort of device that you could place over one half of the screen, but then we realized that's just paper.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah. Mythical.com, buy paper so you can cover up the one you don't like as much. Interestingly, what we could do to make that even easier, and I don't want to sign our team up for any unnecessary work, but there could be...
Starting point is 00:16:57 Like we never do that always. Yeah. That's one of the things that happens when we talk, is that we end up giving work to people by accident. Right. Stevie had to come up with crabs inside of crabs last night. She's got to figure out what that means. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:12 But I think maybe some sort of filter that just edits one of us out completely of an episode. I think you should do the same thing that we tell everybody to do when they complain about not being able to play along with the games. Just put your hand over the answer. Right? Put your hand over the answer. Reddit. Is Reddit here today?
Starting point is 00:17:40 Is Reddit represented? Okay. All right. Why is this an episode? This guy's got an idea. Is Reddit represented? Okay. All right. This guy's got an idea. Right. He introduced her, and then she started from the second episode. Oh, yeah. Why not the first episode?
Starting point is 00:18:00 The second episode was on my own. The first one was together with him. And I was like, okay, that's potential. And then it came out in my YouTube list, and here I am now. Okay, so you just feel like you got what you needed out of that relationship. Right. And now we're getting twice the views. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:20 All are welcome here. Just agree to not talk to each other. And see you over the internet thing. Yeah. With Uber Reserve, good things come to those who plan ahead. Family vacay? Reserve your ride as soon as you book your flights. To all the planners, now you can reserve your Uber ride
Starting point is 00:18:45 up to 90 days in advance. See Uber app for details. Matt Walker, right here. Okay, we've moved these people to the front. Hey, Matt. Hey, how's it going? Great. Now, on a scale of one to five,
Starting point is 00:19:01 how intelligent do you think your question is? Zero. Yeah, off the charts. Just so long as we're clear. Right, yeah. Matt asked us, do you think you could survive for an entire year only eating five-pound Velveeta cheese blocks? Follow-up question.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Just how thick do you think your blood would get? Okay, Matt, I have a question for you. Sure. Are you preparing for some sort of challenge? No, I can give some backstory if you want. So at work, we work in a room with no phones, so we get very bored and come up with the strangest questions that we can think of. This is just to pass the time and we figure that out.
Starting point is 00:19:50 You said that you work in a room with no phone? We do. So you get bored. Is this the White House? What are you talking about? Oh, you're not going to tell us. I can't. I'd have to kill you. And take out that life insurance policy.
Starting point is 00:20:09 There's a life insurance joke in there somewhere. Okay. Why do you think we can answer this intelligently? Five pound Velveeta cheese blocks. It turns out that's the biggest block you can buy. And we calculated that if you buy one a day and eat that whole thing, it's about $45,000 a year of just Velveeta. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:30 So you've got the budget covered. Right. Let's talk about the health impact. That's the follow-up question. $45,000. Do you have to eat all five pounds every day? That's too much. It's a challenge, I guess.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Well, that's not going to work. Okay. But if all you can have is Velveeta cheese, which is not even really a cheese. It's probably a cheese product, right? Right. Mostly plastic. Man, that would be a rough year, first of all.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I can guarantee you that. Yeah, I think it would come to a halt pretty quick, the inner workings. Can you drink water, or do you get the moisture from the cheese? There's water in it. There's water in it. Just Velveeta. All your moisture from the cheese.
Starting point is 00:21:12 If you squeeze a block of Velveeta, you get cheese water out of it. A five-pound block. Yeah. That's important. Yes, you're drinking cheese water, eating cheese. And there's a thing. You know, Christy is a cheese lover. You're a cheese lover.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Christy got me cheese for my birthday. I like cheese, but I just don't understand. I think it's something. To hear Christy talks about it, it's like there's something that happens in her loins. Well, I don't want to get... I don't want to say anything inappropriate about your wife while she's just behind you in my line of sight.
Starting point is 00:21:51 She's not in my line of sight. This is all on purpose. But I do believe that the same thing that happens in your brain during sexual stimulation happens in your brain while consuming cheese and chocolate. So this might be something you need to look into.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Well, I, you know, I like to stay hydrated. And so that's my thing. Yeah. Like, through all intimate exercises. I've heard that... So now if she wants... I'm going gonna serve her, I guess,
Starting point is 00:22:26 pizza and Velveeta. Yeah, I've heard that you're known to take a water break in the middle of a encounter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Maybe you can start taking a Velveeta break. You just keep a block of cheese next to the bed. I mean, that's a big block of cheese. I think that might count as like a threesome at that point.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah, oh, gosh. A cheese-some, someone said. Just how thick do you think your blood would get? You would die. This is not a good idea. But I do think you should try it. And I think you should start a YouTube channel. I'll send you the link. Okay. Do not do that, Matt Walker.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Where do you want to go now? You want to go here? Yeah. Is this Evie or Ev Field? Ev Fields. Hello, Ev. Okay, this is a multi-part question here. Now, we all know that there will come a day
Starting point is 00:23:24 when you retire and stop creating content. But if everything were to disappear besides the merch and the memories you've left on people, what kind of impact or legacy do you think you would have left in that hypothetical situation? Hmm, that's interesting. But hypothetical. Because how would that ever happen?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah, because we think about, and we've talked about on this show before, just this reams and reams of content over, you know, like 16, we're looking 20 years eventually, it'll be more than that. So much of our lives are on the internet. I mean, just look at Ear Biscuits alone,
Starting point is 00:24:02 and we've talked about how much is there. I take strange comfort in that. I mean, just look at Ear Biscuits alone, and we've talked about how much is there. I take strange comfort in that. And now that you've taken that away from me, hypothetically, yeah, the merch on its own. We got some good merch, and we got a lot of merch, too. We've said a lot of things on T-shirts. But I don't know what people would conclude
Starting point is 00:24:25 if they only had the merch. They'd be like, were they NASCAR drivers? One of them was a snake. Like, there's just... There's just so many... Yeah, we're still good. There's just a lot of different conclusions. Rub some bacon on it. That's an old shirt.
Starting point is 00:24:43 That was one of our first merch items. It still works. The technique still works. Rubbing bacon on things. Boil for safety. There's just a lot of things that out of context wouldn't make a lot of sense at all. Now, if you got hold of
Starting point is 00:24:57 the Book of Mythicality, that would explain a lot. That would help you. But that feels like cheating at that point, right? Let's just say that doesn't exist. I just like he's got the feel good Mythical Morning shirt on. You know, I think that even through our merch, there
Starting point is 00:25:13 would be this message of feel good, accept yourself, accept others, and let's be nicer to people. You know? I do think that a lot of the slogans that we put out into the world
Starting point is 00:25:34 are things that come from our mouths and our conversations, but they also are just a great indication of the relationship we have with Mythical Beasts that, you know, it's, we kind of feed each other in that energy, right? Like, you gather the people that have similar energy, and I, you know, I'm just glad that, you know, when we meet you guys at the meet and greet lines, or see your faces here, and we just, we soak up your energy that there's so much positivity. There's so much acceptance and a welcoming vibe that like everybody doesn't look the same. Everybody's, everybody doesn't, is not into all the same stuff. Like, you know, there's, it's an eclectic group,
Starting point is 00:26:26 but you have this, you have this, now if you keep yelling, I cannot keep a train of thought. Yeah. All right, kick that person out. You are not accepted. You are judged. Well, you know what I was trying to say. Well, I think that's my favorite thing about being here
Starting point is 00:26:51 is that there's a group of people who they get all of the inside jokes and all of the references, you know? Right. Because it's one thing, like, when you've got a friend and you know somebody, like, in your town or whatever that's, like, another mythical beast, but I assume assume and i can kind of see it on your face is that being in the presence of other mythical beasts in this way where it's like this unspoken thing is pretty cool
Starting point is 00:27:16 that's what we were hoping for this is literally the coolest thing ever for like amazing and this isn't the first thing i've ever seen with you guys, so I just threw myself right into this. Outstanding. 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. Well, I told Jessie, because she was... She hasn't performed in
Starting point is 00:27:38 quite some time. You wouldn't know that based on how she did last night. But I kept telling her, I was like, you have nothing to worry about. This is the warmest group of people that you will ever imagine. Like, we could literally get up there and just, like, bomb so hard,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and they would tell us that we did a great job. Well, that's kind of the reason I wanted to ask this, because, you know, for me, what you guys have given me is so much more than just the content. I'm not trying to get sappy here, but I wouldn't have... Do it. Okay, let's do it. I would not have come out as transgender if it wasn't for you guys. You have made such a safe and welcoming place.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I have never felt more accepted and loved here, and you guys just exuded that. And for me, the reason I ask this is because your impact is so much more than just the surface content. I mean, yes, you're eating crabs inside of crabs, which some might say is not the highest quality content out there, but just the way you embrace the weirdness and all of us and also on Ear Biscuits just being so open about you guys's stories and your own histories
Starting point is 00:28:54 and journeys just helps someone like me be like you know feel comfortable with actually being curious about themselves and exploring that so just you guys are great for that. And I really thank you for just the positivity and love. Thank you for sharing that. Thanks, Ev. Now, yeah, that means a lot to us. Summer is like a cocktail. It has to be mixed just right.
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Starting point is 00:30:04 You're talking about retirement. Let's talk about that for a minute you know we're at an interesting point in our careers right now you know it's we there's a lot of opportunity and honestly there's a lot of different directions that we could take mythical in. And I think a lot of it has to do with being middle-aged. Who you talking about? I mean, yeah. You've broken the 45 barrier. I think that's past middle-aged. See, for you, you're past middle-aged
Starting point is 00:30:45 and you just start to think about like, all right, the future. You think about like, by the time we're 50 in our early fifties, then it's where, you know, the kids are going to be out of both of our homes. You think about like, is there, do we have the ability to retire at some point like earlier than most people conceivably we also have the ability to like i was saying take the direction of mythical in a lot of different ways we're trying a lot of things that aren't that aren't just about um the content we create but like there's a whole business side of running Mythical and saying, all right, what are the initiatives that we want to invest in? One example, the Mythical Creator Accelerator, you may be familiar with, that we
Starting point is 00:31:37 invest in up-and-coming creators who are building their own brand, and we want to be footsteps that they can follow in when our experience was we really didn't have anyone to emulate. So we saw that as an opportunity. It's a business opportunity. It's a legacy play for us to say, how do we invest in up and coming creators, help them benefit and build their brands. It's totally separate from mythical, but by using, you know, with our guideposts, they can be healthy and thrive and put their own version of good out into the world.
Starting point is 00:32:16 That's very exciting, but it's separate from our own work as creators. So at times we find ourselves being pulled in many directions or seeing that our company can be pulled pushed or sent in all types of directions and i think and these are conversations that honestly we've we've been having right given given where we're at in our careers, I think. Well, it's kind of the balance between
Starting point is 00:32:47 running a business and starting new lines of business as we continue to grow Mythical and then remembering that we are creators first and foremost and sometimes it's just difficult to do both of those things. I think the thing that we're excited about that we really haven't talked about at all, you'll be the first to hear about this,
Starting point is 00:33:08 is that we're really seeing 2023 as a reinvestment in us as creators. And you may be like, well, you already make so much stuff. But I think that in terms of some of those, maybe if you've been watching for a long time and some of those early videos that got you into the mythical world that maybe leaned a little bit more into us expressing ourselves creatively that's something that we really want to press on and in 2023 so but I think that as we think about
Starting point is 00:33:45 retirement in general, the way I've thought about this is even if we were to say, okay, we're going to retire and I'm going to go live
Starting point is 00:33:59 in a little cabin with Jesse. You're invited, Jesse. Oh, how nice of you. I think you're the one who might need an invitation. And then I'm going to just do woodworking nonstop.
Starting point is 00:34:13 The problem, regardless of what decision we made individually as what we wanted to do in retirement, there's no doubt in my mind that we'd be trying to find a way to turn that into content because we can't help ourselves. Right. And also turning it, if I had a cabin somewhere in an undisclosed location and you had a cabin,
Starting point is 00:34:33 I don't know if you want a cabin or what you want, whatever you want, your version of a cabin. Yeah, you really put me on the spot, but sure. I'd like for it to be really modern. The van is what people are saying. I'll park my van at my ultra-modern cabin. But even in that scenario, there would be some way that we were... Because I like having a toilet that's not in my shower.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Okay, good. I agree with that. We would have... There would still be content. You know, it would be like, hey, we've got to do our podcast. Go to the spot in your van where you do the podcast. I'll go to the spot in my cabin. Because I think it will be, I want to do that. Right. Not, well, we've got to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Well, when you think about retirement, you think about being able to begin to pursue what you want to do and what your passions are if you're lucky enough to to do that and i think that we're just privileged to be doing what we want to do already already and there may be some things that uh aren't as fun you know it's not as fun to run a company as it is to make content uh so i think the thing that is always going to be there is going to be making content. Yeah, I think that that's a lot of the soul searching that we've been doing recently has and conversations that we've been having. But what are we really what are the next five years, 10 years look like for us? I mean, we are specifically having those conversations.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And the thing that really invigorated the conversation, and it kind of felt like a light bulb moment, and it's what you just said, that we find ourselves in this amazing position to have the opportunity to express ourselves because of all of you. You know, it's like without an audience, you can't make things in a vacuum. enthusiasm, and trust, and excitement for what we want to do, and how we want to connect with each other, and connect with you guys, that gives us a good amount of freedom, right? And saying, we can take even more advantage of the creative freedom that we have now by cooking up even more things that we can share, you know, as opposed to working on things in private and in secret and then hoping to develop them
Starting point is 00:37:15 by playing somebody else's game and then no one ever seeing it. Yeah, we've spent... We've done a good amount of that. We've talked about that. We did the whole Ear Biscuit where we talked about all the ideas that we had come up with
Starting point is 00:37:24 and all the movie ideas and TV show ideas. And for years, we've taken a pretty big part of ourselves creatively and tried to package it in a way that we could drive across town and have a meeting with a group of important people and trying to talk them into letting us make something. And after so many years of doing that and just repeatedly being told that this doesn't work, or even when it does work and they want to do it,
Starting point is 00:37:51 they want to put their spin on it in a way that makes it not what we want it to make, we're beginning to be like, okay, stop trying to convince those people to let us make something and just start making stuff for you guys directly. So we've got to figure out how that looks and how we do that as a company,
Starting point is 00:38:11 but that's where our minds are at right now. Yeah, and so you see what happens when the word retirement enters our brain and then it comes out as how do we express ourselves. I think that's exactly how we think about retirement, is that we don't, I guess. In that sense. But we do think about cabins, I guess.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe in one sense we do. Mine's going to be rustic. Okay. Okay. Wherever you're going, you better believe American Express will be right there with you. Heading for adventure? We'll help you breeze through security.
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Starting point is 00:39:30 What emotion do we each feel the most or both feel the most? My theory is that it's the same emotion, but I'll let you go first. Oh, gosh. This is tough. Christy and I just went on a little getaway.
Starting point is 00:39:54 We went back to Big Sur. And you lose reception, so you've got to be strategic about downloading what you want to listen to. And we downloaded the audio book, Brene Brown's book, Atlas of the Heart. I highly recommend this book even though I only listened to the first two chapters so far.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Usually that's all you need. Pretty awesome so far. But she takes you through all the emotions that can exist. I'm like, wow, there through all the emotions that can exist. I'm like, wow, there's so many emotions that I didn't know I could have. And she lays the groundwork that it's really important. It opens up your life to be in touch with your emotions
Starting point is 00:40:41 and to be able to identify more of them specifically, kind of it gives you a vocabulary with which to understand your own experience and thereby live a more robust experience. You know, if you just think, well, I can just, I just feel anxious or I just feel, sometimes I realize that anxiety is actually anger. Or like if I say I'm frustrated, it's like, well, that actually may be anger. But then also saying, hey, there's lots of different types. There's joy you can experience. There's lots of positive emotions too.
Starting point is 00:41:24 That's what I'm trying to say. I want to experience all of the emotions. But what's my... So that's my recommendation. I don't know if it's my rec today, but Atlas of the Heart. Yeah, that should be the rec. I don't have one.
Starting point is 00:41:38 So, I don't know. I think... Like... I don't want to just go to anxiety. That's definitely me. Well, just be honest, man. But I think that that's probably my go-to. Pretty good. I got a pretty good anxious sweet spot there.
Starting point is 00:42:07 It's just like nestled right down in there. It's like that divot in your bed where you're like, oh, this is where I lay every single night. And I can tell if I shift over two inches in the wrong way. You know, it's like, oh, I'm back in that anxious spot again. Maybe I should roll over. Roll over into joy. Roll over into joy? Roll over to joy.
Starting point is 00:42:29 That's your book, Link. Okay. Okay. Roll over into joy? Roll over into joy, yeah. Okay. I'd read that. I'd read the first two chapters.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Is goosebumps an emotion? Yeah, potentially. So I totally appreciate what you're saying, and that's something that therapy has helped me with, is like you feel something, and then if you lean into it and you get to the bottom of it, you're like, oh, there's something beneath it. But generally speaking, and this may be,
Starting point is 00:43:11 I kind of figured that's what your answer would be, and it may be surprising, it may be even surprising to you, but I think that as you look at a list of emotions, I think that anxiety is probably the thing that is operating the most often for me as well now I may like deal with it or it may manifest itself differently and people may not be like um oh I wouldn't have you may not know that even if you're interacting with me I don't tend to like let you
Starting point is 00:43:39 know that that's what's happening but I was thinking about the way that i interact with this this weekend right yeah you know one huge part of it is anticipation and just knowing that we're gonna we've thought about creating this experience for you guys that we you know we we've got a team that knows you really well and knows what you like and what you want and picking a special spot like this but then right on the other side of every one of those anticipations is an anxiety about something that could go wrong right is the fairest we're going to come down and just roll through the whole town just taking people one by one and throwing them, you know? And then you're like, oh, we made a decision to do this outdoor event. Was that a mistake?
Starting point is 00:44:32 Is it going to rain? Yes, it's going to rain on day one. And then things like, okay, the performance last. I'm like choosing where am I going to place my worry. It's like, okay, I'm going to do this concert, perform these songs that I've never performed for a crowd. You really want to kind of have warmed up a little bit in front of like some people, but I don't have time to do that.
Starting point is 00:44:55 So let's, oh, it'll be fine. Let's just do it. You know, Jesse's got anxiety about it. And then there's just all the things. And then we've got this ridiculous show that we're going to do tonight where we're only doing the things that we're going to do because it's you guys,
Starting point is 00:45:11 and we know that you'll have a fun time watching us do something that we probably wouldn't take out on the road. But yeah, so it's like a lot of, you know, and I don't necessarily think I would call it an anxiety disorder, but it is definitely the general thing that's always there just under the surface that you can dip into at any point. To be like, okay, yep, that's something I can attach some energy to right now and worry and try to figure out.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Okay, I'm going to change my answer to horny. Okay. I don't believe that's an emotion. to you right now and worry and try to figure out. Okay, I'm gonna change my answer to horny. Okay. I don't believe that's an emotion. You might wanna talk to your therapist about that. That's like saying that your love language is sex, which I tried to pull that one time. Yeah. Oh really, it's not?
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah, it can't be. It's not an emotion? It can be physical touch, but not always that kind of physical touch. Okay, well then I'll just go with goosebumps. Okay. How are you? I feel like I'm, I don't,
Starting point is 00:46:17 I feel like I've been pretty chill here. No, and I think, Jesse and I were talking about it last night. How chill I am? Yeah, how chill Link is. Because the thing that you want to be able to do, and I feel like with each year that I get older, I get better at this,
Starting point is 00:46:34 is not just wanting something to be over, right? There's so much in my life when I had something like that performance last night or what we're doing tonight, where I'm actually sort of fantasizing about getting to my hotel room and lying down. Right? I know. And they probably don't want to hear that.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah, right. Because they're just, just get through it, don't screw it up, and just get to your hotel bed. But you're acknowledging that something's wrong with that. Yeah, and I actually, well, being able to talk to jesse throughout the past months yeah about her being a part of this actually was helpful like being
Starting point is 00:47:14 able to tell her some of those things that i would tell myself was therapeutic for me because i was like listen the experience is going to be when it's happening. Like, don't let that slip by. Like, anticipate it, look forward to it, and then enjoy it when it's happening. And I think that by talking about that so much, I actually, when it was over, I didn't have a sense of relief. I was like, oh, man, I'd like to do that again. Or I'd like, I wish that had gone on longer. I wish that was still happening, you know? That's good.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Yeah, so I'm getting better at that. So you didn't run to your bed afterward. Well, we did run to the bed. So what are we learning here? Yeah, it's like we've had the privilege of experiencing so many things. Like, we lead a really wild life being able to, like, just, like, live our dreams. But, yeah, there's something to to like we wrote about in the book you like making a decision to stop and celebrate you know and say like this moment i'm here for it i'm in it you
Starting point is 00:48:35 know yeah and you know i just want to go back to giving you guys credit that like you're you're you're you create you've created an environment for us here that like i'm not freaking out but instead i'm like the they know what they're here for and they know what they're gonna get so i just let's just let's just go with it you know it's you can't might as well not try too hard. Just let it happen. Let it happen. It's a safe space. So I do feel like I'm living it up. I feel like I'm here for it.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah, I'm having a good time. I'm having a good time. And it's so much different when you go into a place where you're having to explain yourself or prove yourself. Right. That's what I was talking to Jesse. I was like, this weekend is built on, you know, for some of you it may be days or weeks or months but many of you years of a relationship you know that we get to come in here and have together for a weekend and experience in person jamie how we doing on time we got when are we supposed to be done
Starting point is 00:50:01 i think we're just rolling right along. We're good. Oh, we're good. So, Mike Davis. Right there in the leopard print. How you doing? Hey, Mike. Hey. What up, Mike Davis?
Starting point is 00:50:18 What's going on? I don't think we've ever answered this one. What's your least favorite episode of Good Mythical Morning? Least favorite episode. Do you have an answer? Somebody yelled out Ghost Pepper. I mean the Carolina Reaper. Wasn't it worse? It was worse. Well, the ones
Starting point is 00:50:44 that definitely... People think the horseshoe, people think the blind taco. Blind? Blood taco. Blood taco. I was like, what's a blind taco? I mean, if I think about the physical effects of an episode, I don't even remember what it was. It wasn't the ghost pepper. It was that other one, the scorpion pepper,
Starting point is 00:51:00 where I was in Good Mythical More. I was lying on the couch. Oh, yeah. And I was just... I had lost the capacity for entertainment. Like, I was beyond being energized by what was happening, and I was just angry and scared and anxious. And that was bad. And then, of course, the longest lasting negative physical effects was that glass of vinegar.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Where it just led to like... Duo or Donto. With Smosh. Yeah. And it was... That was horrible. That's the reason we ended up buying them, because I was so angry about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:44 It's like, yeah, don't cross me, I'll buy you. To me, you think it's the Grape Nuts vlog? Yeah, that was torturous. See, I don't have an answer. My least favorite GMM episodes are the ones where it's like, I think it would be, if I could come up with one, one that I was like really excited about that then sucked.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Because it's like, yeah, the food stuff when we're miserable afterward. But it's really hard to point to an episode that was like a complete flop. I mean, you might not like some of the guests, and I'm not going to throw any guests under the bus,
Starting point is 00:52:25 so let's remove those. Like, we've had a few guests that, like, absolutely sucked. Yeah. I think I might start a Reddit thread where everybody can just talk about which guests sucked the most. But we'll leave that for there. But it's, you know, it's a real credit to the Mythical crew that makes the show.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I mean, you've seen the evolution of the show, right? It's like changing over time. That, like, they know the show and us so well that, like, they're setting up parameters for the show to happen to us you know it's a really interesting thing that like the the thing our baby is now something that we basically said all right we're entrusting you to to raise our baby team and then bring our baby to us and then see how we react to it. Oh, it's my baby's back.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Oh, you've gotten taller. It's like sending it off to boarding school. It's this weird being just as committed to Good Mythical Morning as ever, just as excited about it as ever, and knowing that there's ways that we can infuse ourselves into the show
Starting point is 00:53:51 even more by entrusting our team and stepping back from the meticulations of planning. We've done that increasingly year over year, and I think it's really having a positive impact On the show Because it gives us this Increasingly more authentic performance That's less and less of a performance
Starting point is 00:54:18 And more of just an authentic experience Of us behind that desk So I can't find an episode where it was like, I was so excited and then it just bombed or didn't come together because like they, you know, they have all the right places that matter most there.
Starting point is 00:54:39 And, you know, so it's, we can kind of mess around with it. And I actually think that, so the cliche answer I always give is, who, Mike. People ask the inverse, like, what's your favorite episode? And I'm always like, the next one. Because we do, but what the, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:55:01 we are excited about where the show's going. You know, we're excited about the things that we can do. That desk, that set, that environment is a playground for us. And that's another part of what we've been talking about in realizing, hey, what we've built together, how can we take more advantage of it creatively to continue to push boundaries? I mean, continue to eat stuff, yes. We're going to keep eating stuff on Good Mythical Morning, and we're going to keep doing other things too, you know? Because it needs to be fun for us.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It needs to be fun for the team that's making it with us and blindsiding us with it a lot of times, right? Yeah, and I think that some of our, this wouldn't be a least favorite, it's like when am I the most, I'm actually changing the way I think about this now. We've talked about this before on Ear Biscuits when we try something that we think is creatively ambitious
Starting point is 00:56:02 or we do something that isn't us just eating something. And then it performs at like half the views because that's the way the Internet works. But I know that's not how you guys feel about it because you're very vocal when you do like watching us take a creative risk and do something different. And not only because you watch many of you watch every episode or most episodes, and therefore you're not just like i'm just coming in for this one and i'm coming in for this one so we actually have you in mind more often than it may seem like sometimes and again that's that sort of like well this has got to be a business that supports a team but this is also a show
Starting point is 00:56:40 that is for us and for you and for our collective experience. So we're going to keep trying those things and we're not going to be surprised or disappointed if some of those things that may require more effort or more creativity or more time from the team don't get as much as many views as it's just sitting down and trying every flavor of a Hot Pocket. But we'll continue to try to make trying every flavor of a Hot Pocket as entertaining and informative because these things matter. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Right? Right. Today we are eating another block of Velveeta cheese. Let's just do that for a month. To turn that question back on you, Mike, do you have a least favorite episode of GMM? I do Probably the horseshoe
Starting point is 00:57:30 The horse one? It was a little boring Are you I was bored I almost died I didn't have anything to do What am I doing here? I don't think anything to do. I was like, what am I doing here? I don't think I should do anything.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Are you a horse guy? I'm not. Okay. I don't know how that makes me feel better or worse that he's not a horse guy. He's just bored with it. There was a whole level of humor that you just didn't get. Yeah. Horse humor.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Horse humor. Equine. Yeah. Yeah. Some of them aren't for everybody. Yeah. Right. It didn't turn out how I thought it would turn out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah. You saw my anxiety on full display in that video. Boy. See, it's important for other reasons. It's important to be bored sometimes by our show. I had to take down all my posters of horses that I have up around my house.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Jessie was like, why are all the horses in our decor coming down? She loves horse decor. It's kind of her specialty. We're working on a Thanksgiving episode that you are going to hate. Awesome. It doesn't involve horses, but...
Starting point is 00:58:53 Turkey! But you will be bored. Yeah. So don't miss it. Won't. Okay. The last question, I'm not 100% sure. Is Abigail Naylor here?
Starting point is 00:59:10 Oh, we're going to have to toss that microphone. Oh, you're way back there. Way back there. We just got the yellow card. Yeah. This better be a good one if this is the last one. It is. So as...
Starting point is 00:59:28 Okay. They're right there. Sorry I'm late. Hello, Abigail. Hi. So you had a question about friendship. What advice would you give to us for maintaining such a meaningful relationship with each other for the many years to come?
Starting point is 00:59:41 Yes, that is my question. This is my lifelong best friend. Well, like 11 years since we've been friends. No, that's nothing. No, yeah. We've got a long way to go to compete, but she's just like everything to me. I moved to a new state from North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:59:56 moved to Louisiana with her. I knew no one as a little 11-year-old girl. And she was the first person I met the very first week I moved to Louisiana. And she's just like, if you know me, you if you know her you know me so i just wanted to get y'all's advice because y'all have such a great lifelong relationship friendship so yeah that's just my clarice so yeah and what's your friend's name her my name is clarice And what's your friend's name? My name is Clarice.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Miss Clarice? Yeah. Like Silence of the Lambs. Oh, yeah. He hasn't seen it. I get that a lot. We actually both have the first same name. We're both Abigail, but she goes by Clarice, so yeah. That makes it simpler.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Okay. I'm glad you knew her name. Yes. I learned that a couple days ago. I was going to say that's a good first step to friendship having the same name also helps that's who she didn't tell me that to like two weeks after we knew each other she's like oh my name is Abigail by the way I was like that's good information to have please two weeks to find out her name all right right. We got to give some good advice here.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It's the last question. Well, you know, we've answered this. We have answered this question, but we wanted to talk about it again. Friendship is not easy. No. You know, I'll
Starting point is 01:01:24 sing a lot, guys, because i'm a guy and i taught this guys about friendships sometimes and it uh they're like well it's it's tough for guys sometimes we're guys we have an extraordinary friendship there's like lots of there's a lot wrapped up into it you know so there's there's a lot at play here in some ways like friendship or even best friendship is an inadequate description of the nature of our relationship yeah i mean so we are best friends but when you're that and you're also business partners and you're you're your performers who a cornerstone of your performance is friendship like I mean there could be some there's some unique challenges for us because there's a lot wrapped up in it, right?
Starting point is 01:02:28 It's certainly very important to us to actually be friends because we care about each other. Right. But also, and then secondarily, because this doesn't work if we're not actually friends like that would really suck right right you're saying that if you make your relationship the product and then the relationship is over that is a big problem yeah we've never seen that happen before um the um it's interesting somebody sent me something recently that talked about how the number of friends in people's lives decreased dramatically because of the pandemic. And specifically, number of close friends. I thought you were going to say because of children, which is also, you know, children will kill friendships.
Starting point is 01:03:24 No, but specifically because of the social dynamics. Oh, my gosh. The social dynamics. Good luck with that. The way that things changed with the pandemic. There is, I would say, an alarming percentage of people who do not have one close friend. Like, that has increased.
Starting point is 01:03:42 But the number of, and this is something that has just been moving in that direction culturally for a really long time so i do think it's more important than ever one of the ways that we have answered this question in the past we always talk about communication i want to come back to communication because one of the things that i've said and then we've talked we talked about this recently on our own is the way we would answer this question on um one of the tours i think it was maybe bleak creek or or whatever because there was a question about friendship that would come up a lot and we would talk about how having something that you're a common goal was key to a long friendship and the fact that we were building something together and so
Starting point is 01:04:27 you've got this baby that you share together in the same way that like a marriage may have kids you pointed out which i agree with and why i think that that is somewhat true and i do think it's actually true because for a lot of the reasons that we're saying there's a lot of things at stake and there's also a lot of things that bring us back into each other's lives because both of us tend to kind of i mean you're more extroverted than me but in a lot of ways we can go a pretty long period of time without having meaningful interactions with with somebody because we have so many things going on and there's a lot of people maybe back home in north carolina that were good friends with us that we're just many things going on. And there's a lot of people maybe back home in North Carolina that were good
Starting point is 01:05:05 friends with us that we're just not the greatest at staying in touch with people, um, or initiating and maintaining those long distance friendships. So one of the things we're thrown into each other's worlds over and over again all the time, we're constantly in each other's world. So there,
Starting point is 01:05:20 that that's one of the things, right? There's no out of sight, out of mind. That's never going to happen with us right but you kind of pointed out the inadequacy in that analogy because the negative way of seeing that is you would say that if it were a marriage and people were just in the marriage because of the kids then the day that the kids leave, the marriage is over. And that happens all too often. And you made the point that, well, that's only part of the answer and probably not
Starting point is 01:05:55 even the most important part of the answer. The answer is the friendship is valuable because the friendship is valuable. And the friendship remains and is important because of the value that the friendship brings not because of the thing that you guys are building together and the way it benefits from your friendship if that makes sense yeah I think definitely when you know it's when we're both excited and going after the same thing, and we're in this, especially if we're in a creative flow, it's very exhilarating to be there with your lifelong best friend and to say, we're going after this thing. We're making this thing. We're, and it's kind of a magical synergy. It does feel great, and it does edify me, and I think our connection. But there's, yeah, there's also that personal side to it
Starting point is 01:06:58 that's like, yeah, but we're also actually friends. I'm restating what you're saying in other words. And I think this is kind of where our answer is, is that it takes a lot of work to maintain a relationship. You know, and I think it's very important that we have given ourselves permission to say, this is, we're committed to this and it requires work.
Starting point is 01:07:32 And there's times when it's not going as well as other times and given ourselves and each other permission to express our needs in the friendship is something that I think we're still learning, right? I mean, we're still growing as individuals. We talked about earlier, getting in touch with your emotions, understanding that there's a lot more of those out there that can be a part of your experience like that it's a it's a similar experience of like knowing how to apply the principles of relationship to our to a friendship because you think well you can fall into this trap that like friends should just be friends because it's easy you know like you don't make friends your closest friends are people that like you just find yourselves hanging out with and
Starting point is 01:08:34 having a good time with oh i find myself liking this person but that's not you know a friendship is not going to thrive long term if you don't give yourself permission to say, no, this is a relationship that needs, that requires work and energy. And if you're, and a big part of that is being vulnerable to say, hey, in this particular time, I have a need that's not being met in our friendship or vice versa. And we've had those conversations. And I think that's something that we haven't shared publicly. We just say, we leave it at communication. But I think that's a little more specific version of that same thing. Because it's to say we just you just got to
Starting point is 01:09:25 communicate you got to talk things out but like even after all these years when you find that like if you have a certain need in the friendship that's not being met it's a hard thing to say you know that's a it's a very vulnerable moment right and then on the other side of it though is this you know a renewed connection and a renewed bond that i think we've been through that a number of times yeah so this may seem like a tautology or circular reasoning or whatever you want to call it but the best way to maintain a friendship long-term is to continue to be friends. Right? And don't expect it to be easy. And understanding that it's a commitment. And I think the same thing applies to relationships. We could really quickly transfer this into marriage
Starting point is 01:10:19 advice. When we got into our marriages, it was under very, very specific understanding. And we were in a very specific place in terms of our worldview. And in that worldview, divorce was not really an option. Right. Now, we are different people at this point. And I think that there are legitimate reasons for relationships to end and marriages to end. are legitimate reasons for relationships to end and marriages to end. But I think that we still have to approach our marriages as if divorce is not an option. You know, obviously there are circumstances that could lead to that. But I think that you have to go in with the level of commitment that like this isn't going to be based on continual feelings of romance.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And friendships are not gonna be based on continual feelings of compatibility. Or the vibes are always good. If that's what it's based on, the moment that that ends, it's just like, all right, I got more convenient people or whatever, it's something that's easier for me. So I think that that's where the communication comes in.
Starting point is 01:11:23 The communication is because things are, when you work on so many things together and you're together all the time, in the same way that you get annoyed at your brother or your sibling, that's the kind of relationship that we have. And so understanding when that's beginning to happen and knowing when conversations are required
Starting point is 01:11:42 in order to kind of break through that and move to the next step has been really pivotal. Is that good? That's perfect. That's more than enough. Thank you. All right, guys. You can always let us know what you think
Starting point is 01:11:56 using hashtag Ear Biscuits or you can leave us a voicemail. 1-888-EAR-POD-1. Thanks for joining us at Mythicon. We'll talk at you next week. Love ya. Hey, Ren Link.
Starting point is 01:12:15 My name is Karlyn. We're driving back from Mythicon, and we just wanted to say that seeing you guys go up on stage and do what you guys have always wanted to do with James and the Shame and seeing Charles so that seeing you guys go up on stage and do what you guys have always wanted to do with James and the Shame and seeing Charles so proud of you guys and with, of course, Alcon, Snuggle Baby, like you guys absolutely killed it. So awesome to see you guys doing what you want to do. Hi Red and Link. My name's Brett. I've been to Mythical Beast a long time. Mythicon was a blast.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I've been in Mythical Peace a long time. Mythicon was a blast. You guys hit it out of the park. And it was everything I hoped it would be. I got to meet Mythical crew members face to face, which was so surreal. You guys' live performance and the time gate bit sent me over the fucking moon. I was dead laughing. sent me over the fucking moon. I was dead laughing.
Starting point is 01:13:06 It meant so much to me to be here this weekend and to share in the first ever Mythicon. So I just, I want to thank you guys wholeheartedly. The Mythical crew, everybody working behind the scenes,
Starting point is 01:13:20 keep being your mythical selves. Especially you, DJ Elkhound Snuggle Baby. On YouTube, James. Hi, Rhett and Link, also known as James in the Shame and DJ Elkhound Snuggle Baby. I had a great time at Mythicon. It was amazing. And I just wanted to let you guys know that this year has been really just for me and my husband. We had a miscarriage.
Starting point is 01:13:51 And then two follow-up failed IVF cycles. But right before Mythicon, I had another, my fourth cycle. And the day after Mythicon, I found out that i got a positive pregnancy test so we're expecting and it just seems so fitting with um snuggle baby a 60j name just all magically came together so i appreciate you guys and what you're up to and thanks for just being your mythical best

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