Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Ep. 86 Rhett & Link “Season 2 Finale” - Ear Biscuits
Episode Date: September 11, 2015In this special Season 2 Finale of Ear Biscuits, Rhett & Link answer questions from previous guests of the show, including Grace Helbig, Colleen Ballinger (and Miranda Sings), Joseph Garrett (Stampy C...at), Shay Carl, Hannah Hart, Hank Green and more. They discuss everything from their biggest failures, to their favorite things about each other, to what it takes to build a trusting personal and professional relationship. They also answer hard-hitting questions about becoming robots in the future, how much time they spend on their hair, and if they’ve ever seen each other’s penises. *NOTE: This conversation contains adult themes and language To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This, this, this, this is Mythical.
Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett.
And I'm Link.
Joining us today at the round table of dim lighting
are usses, ourselveses.
That's right.
Just the two of us.
Yeah, this is a very, very special Ear Biscuits.
This is, I don't know if we gave you much warning,
but this is the season two Ear Biscuits. This is, don't know if we gave you much warning, but this is the season two Ear Biscuits finale.
Grand finale.
I'm excited about this conversation.
Don't know how long it's gonna go.
I think a lot of things are gonna surface here
amongst us and for you.
So there's an interesting take on this thing.
But yeah, before we get into it, I'll say, yeah, to us and for you. So there's an interesting take on this thing.
But yeah, before we get into it, I'll say, yeah,
we're taking a break from Ear Biscuits
in order to focus on some other creative endeavors.
And trust me, it's gonna be worth it.
Oh yes.
We have every intention to develop more entertaining things
for not only your ears, but your eyes,
and your eyes and your ears together and your souls.
So, you know, with Good Mythical Morning
continue to roll on, we needed to create a buffer,
creative buffer to focus on perhaps some narrative content.
What, no you didn't say that, Link.
So enjoy this grand finale of season two of Ear Biscuits,
hang in with us.
Now, the concept for this Ear Biscuit
was not only not our idea,
but it was a surprise to us that it was happening.
I guess this was Stevie's brainchild.
As far as I can tell, this was Stevie's idea
to have previous guests of Ear Biscuits come on
and grill us with some questions
because we've been asking a lot of questions
to a lot of people over the past two seasons of Ear Biscuits.
So you heard it right here,
this is going to be all questions
from previous Ear Biscuits guests for us.
And I have the audio recordings of their questions.
So it's as if they walk into the room,
sit down at the round table of dim lighting,
ask their question and then politely excuse themselves
while we answer the question.
Just to clarify, we do not have all of these people here.
Silently waiting to ask the question.
That would be weird.
It's very difficult to get that many people
into the same place at the same time.
I mean, sometimes they do it for like those weird promos,
you know, like for the WB and they'll like,
back in like 1993, they'd like have like Steve Harvey
and some other people all together in one place,
like in the commercial break.
That's not the kind of thing that's happening tonight.
It's going to be recordings.
Yeah, and I've got them here on my computer,
so I'll just play them and we can listen to them
and then we can answer the question.
Are you ready to get started?
It's like we're being grilled here.
And basically everyone who submitted an audio question,
we're gonna answer, we're gonna give them a turn.
But yeah, I guess we should get started here.
So let's start with- Why wait?
I hope you can hear me okay.
I'm in a strip mall in Des Moines, Iowa.
This is Nice Peter.
And I'd like to know honestly,
how much time each of you spend on your beautiful hair
on an average day.
Okay. Okay, bye.
Okay, that's a-
Nice, Peter.
That's a good one to get started.
Yeah, epic rap battles of history on tour.
In Des Moines. In Des Moines, Iowa, I guess.
So this is the question he wanted to ask us.
How much time do you spend on your beautiful hair
on an average day, Rhett?
Well, I will start by saying that we did do
a whole sponsored series about how I could style my hair
in seconds.
That's true.
That is not actually how I do it.
I mean, I don't do it in seconds, but I do believe-
It takes minutes.
That it is definitely minutes.
I'm gonna give, my honest assessment is,
I get out of the shower, so I start with the wet hair.
I put some product in.
I blow dry while the product is in,
and then I reapply more product so it'll be kind of dry.
You blow dry your hair?
I have to, because if I don't,
I'll look like my hair is wet,
given the product that I put in my hair.
I don't recall ever, like in all the years
we've shared a hotel room,
like you get up like,
blow dry your hair.
The blow drying of my hair is a last
24 to 36 months phenomenon.
And you can see a definitive difference
in the way my hair looked like
when we were shooting Commercial Kings.
Like, it was actually, we were watching an old clip today.
Like it was kind of like wet looking all the time.
Yeah.
My hair isn't wet looking anymore because of that.
But the total time, honestly.
You have to check a bit of pride at the door
when you pull out a blow dryer.
Oh yeah, I'm just saying.
In fact, my wife and I just moved into a new place
and we have a bathroom that actually has drawers
in two sinks, the first time we've ever had two sinks.
Congratulations, you've arrived.
There is a drawer in between the two sinks
that's sort of equidistant from each sink
and I put the hairdryer in there
because I was like, baby, we both use it equally.
Oh, you don't have a Rhett dryer and a Jessie dryer?
I'm thinking about getting one
because hers is purple with a-
Hers, you mean ours.
Our hair dryer is purple.
I need like a black hair dryer with like silver trim.
Anyway, the total- It needs to be super heat.
It needs to hurt you when it blow dries your hair
so you feel manly.
It needs to sear your forehead. Well, I check my bride at it blow dries your hair. So you like feel manly. Well, you know, I've-
It needs to sear your forehead.
Well, I checked my pride at the door about my hair.
You all know that I don't enjoy having this hair.
I'm kind of a victim of my hair at this point,
but total time, seven minutes.
You kidding me?
Okay, for me, it's 90 seconds,
but I'm thinking maybe I should blow dry
because my hair looks wet all the time.
There's no way it takes 90,
I mean, I've seen you get on your forehead
and the hair that's on the forehead,
I've seen you wiggle that hair around for 90 seconds.
There's no way that the whole process takes 90 seconds.
I'll time it after this, Nice Peter, thanks for making this up.
I am a great estimator of time, I say seven minutes a day.
Gosh, all right, so no more than two and a half minutes.
It's wet, I dry it with a towel, I spray this spray on it,
and then I fix it with my hands.
Okay.
And that's it.
And I think silently to myself about how I'm glad I'm not using a blow dryer
and how awesome that makes me.
Well, maybe you should.
So you just dry your towel dryer hair?
That's what you do?
Towel dry, yeah, towel dry.
Well, I do that, but then I blow dry.
Let's take another question.
Now, guys, they get deeper.
We get into some good stuff,
but I just thought that was a fun one to start with.
Here is a second one.
Hey Rhett and Link, this is Colleen Ballinger
and I have a question for you.
I was wondering what your most embarrassing moment is.
I need to know.
We've talked about our embarrassing moments.
Well, that's the difficult thing
with having been on the internet for so long
and told so many personal stories
that we've answered this question on Good Mythical Morning
in an episode each called Link's Most Embarrassing Moment,
that was yours, and then mine is called
Rhett's Most Embarrassing Moment.
Well, it was actually Good Morning Chia Lincoln.
Yeah, Good Morning Chia Lincoln, pre-GMM.
It's funny because I watched it back to make sure
I told the story that I still think
is my most embarrassing moment,
and I haven't topped it since telling that story.
So, I'll recap the same one.
Do you have a newer embarrassing moment story or are you?
No.
Well, just recap.
I mean, everyone hasn't seen that.
Mine is also not as embarrassing as yours.
So let me start with mine. Okay, yeah.
I mean, mine, which I will tell the truncated version of
right now is when we were on vacation,
not vacation, we were traveling
and our families were in Kentucky together
and we had our kids at the time,
I think we had two total kids between the two families.
So we were all in one van that we were renting.
We took a break, went into a gas station.
I went to the bathroom,
then I came back out and started to get into the van.
You were driving the van at the time
and you had locked the door, so I began to pull on the door
and thinking that you were playing a prank on me
and won't let me get in the door,
or didn't realize that I was trying to get in the door,
I said, open the door.
Can't really see into the car because it was tinted windows
and there was kind of a reflection,
and I said, open the door!
And I started to yell it because I wasn't in the mood to play around
or to joke around at the time.
As I'm getting louder and louder and yelling,
open the door now!
I look through the window and finally,
the person on the other side of that window
in the passenger, on the driver's side across the car,
comes into focus and it is a woman.
With her children.
And she sees this large man demanding to get into her car.
And the look on her face was, I am going to die today.
And that was when I realized, wrong van, same color,
same model, wrong van.
Perfect stranger.
Your van that you were actually driving
that I was supposed to be riding in
was just like two vans down.
I don't remember.
So I sheepishly went to the actual van.
I wish I would've been able to look over
and see that happen.
I don't remember that.
I must've been looking the other way or something.
Oh man.
That was pretty embarrassing.
But there wasn't like a debrief conversation
with the woman like, roll your window down.
Roll your window down so I can tell you.
No, I didn't follow up.
Why?
I was yelling at you.
Didn't follow up.
Didn't follow up.
I didn't follow up with what happened with mine either.
In college, there was a summer where me
and Matt Newkirk got into working out and if you really get into working out
in college, you work out and then we would actually swim
in the pool as part of like a cool down
and then you'd go into the locker room, you'd take a shower.
Yeah.
And you know, we're adults here, this is college,
you know, let's not be too sheepish here,
you just get buck naked and you take a shower,
this is not a big deal, don't worry about it.
Everybody does it.
Everybody does it.
But I wasn't that comfortable with it,
so the moment I got out of the shower,
I was putting a towel around and everything
and walking back over to where the lockers were
so I could put my clothes back on.
And I had this system where I would strategically
at the last second, take the towel off, bend over,
put on my underwear and put on my shorts really quick
because I just didn't like being naked
with all these guys walking around in the locker room.
I just wasn't comfortable doing that.
Yeah, normal.
But so I was doing my system and this is in,
good morning, Chia Lincoln, when we came up with the phrase,
the moment of nakedness must be minimized
because of my system.
Well, I drop my towel and as I bend over
to get my underwear and put them on,
I feel the sensation of my butt cheeks
being pressed against something.
I was like, there's no wall here behind me.
And then I start to realize that it's like a cold clammy
thing that I'm pushing up against.
Like a whale?
And then I turn? Or a dolphin?
I turn around and look and there is a
large shirtless
man sitting on a bench
right behind me and I have
planted my butt cheeks
square into the dude's back, like
smushed him into it. A professor, no doubt.
I think he was a professor.
Yeah, and it was just, it was one of
those horrifying, embarrassing moments
where time slows down to a crawl.
And you know, it took,
it just felt like it took a minute
to like pry my butt cheeks off of this guy's back.
It probably didn't.
And did you speak to him?
I was looking and then he turned and our eyes met.
And then I just- Your eyes met right after your butt and our eyes met. And then I just-
Your eyes met right after your butt and his back met.
Yeah.
And then I whipped my head back around really quick,
pulled up my underwear, pulled up my pants,
gathered all my stuff and ran around the corner
to the other lockers and like-
You ran away.
Coward.
Yeah.
Just in embarrassment.
You did the right thing.
I put on all my clothes and then as I walk out,
I like see the guy again and I like.
You gave him a nod?
I nodded.
Yeah, that was me.
Nice to get to know you.
That was so embarrassing.
I mean, but he had the grace not to say anything
or not to get up.
It wasn't public embarrassment,
which is neither one of those experiences
were really big public embarrassment.
So I'm grateful for that.
All right, there's actually a second half
to Colleen's question here.
Let's play that.
Hey guys, it's me Miranda,
and I have a really good question for you.
I was wondering who is your favorite YouTuber,
and you better say me or else I'll be really ticked off.
And I was also wondering,
what is your favorite kind of juice?
I just wanted to know
because I'm trying out new different kinds of juices.
I'm a new juice connoisseur.
That wasn't us that burped.
I just want to clarify.
That was Miranda.
That was Miranda who burped
and then breathed on the other side of it.
Who's your favorite YouTuber?
Okay, Miranda, I'll say easily,
you're my favorite YouTuber.
I'll just say that. I would say besides Miranda,
in an effort to not alienate any actual YouTubers out there.
AKA friends, probably.
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go with a channel
that I believe is my favorite channel.
Okay.
And that's bad lip reading.
Oh, I knew you were gonna say that.
I only- I have to agree.
It's, I never am disappointed in a video on that channel.
It's so much work, I know that they can't do,
they can only do so many,
but there's very few YouTube channels that I'm just like,
is there, if there's a new video there, I am guaranteed,
without fail, to be entertained at the highest level.
I don't put off watching it.
I haven't watched any of the Twilight stuff,
and I was like, it almost made me wanna watch
the Twilight movies after watching.
It's better just to watch the bad lip readings.
So yeah, I'm gonna go with that.
What about juice?
Well, my favorite kind of juice,
I don't know if this counts,
but we've got this refrigerator in our office that like a-
Secret fridge.
Our own fridge in our office.
And we have stocked that thing with some kombucha.
This is very Southern California.
I'm just gonna go ahead and admit that.
Yeah.
We've got some kombucha in there.
That's like a fermented tea,
but there's a specific type of kombucha that has chia seeds.
This is like double, double Southern California.
So just, you know, excuse that.
But it's chock full of chia seeds.
Chia juice, man.
That's my answer too.
But there's not juice in the chia. I mean, it's chia kombucha, which is not technically a juice, man, that's my answer too. But there's not juice in the chia.
I mean, it's chia kombucha, which is not technically
a juice, but it is in the juice family
and it is my favorite juice and I love that stuff.
I love it too, if you look at our secret fridge,
that's the only thing in there.
Well, there's some of that yerba mate stuff.
That's good too, and nice Peter actually introduced us
to that on the side of ERB, but the kombucha was something our wives got us into
and then I discovered the chia
because I was putting the chia in the smoothies
and then I realized there was the chia
inside of the kombucha
and now we only do chia kombucha exclusively.
And chia gets like, it has that snotty consistency.
Gelatinous.
I love it. But it's great.
I love that slimy, snotty-ness.
50% of your daily requirement of fiber in a drink,
in a juice.
Well, you know I need that.
I wonder what Miranda's favorite juice is
now that she's getting it.
Well, she's asking us what she needs to be drinking.
That's it.
All right, let's tee up Grace's question here.
The only double guess so far on here, Biscuits.
Hello Rhett and Link, this is Grace Ann Helbig I.
Here is my question for you guys.
I think one of the hardest but most beneficial things that we can do as human beings is reflect on times that we felt like failures.
I would be very curious to know at what time or times in each of your lives you felt like a failure and why
and how that has maybe helped shape the people that you are
or given you some sort of perspective,
so on and so forth.
Okay, that's it.
Yep, that, yep, that, yeah, that's it.
That's it, okay, bye.
Okay, bye.
All right, bye.
Oh, so she's going for the jugular.
Well, I mean, she's getting a little more personal.
A little more personal.
Failures, failures.
Hmm, you wanna go on this one?
You want me to go on this one?
We've never failed.
No, I think the difficulty is thinking about
which thing to talk about because there's a lot of things
that we've done individually and collectively
that haven't turned out the way
that we would have liked them to.
I think there was a definitive moment
that comes to my mind with Commercial Kings,
the TV show that we had on IFC when it wasn't renewed.
So they ordered 10 episodes and we made all of them.
It wasn't like Online Nation where it was like,
we were hired to host some show
and then it was like canceled.
The show wasn't canceled,
but so it wasn't really a failure in that sense,
but then they had to make a decision to renew it or not.
And so everything was focused on one particular decision
and an answer like a yes or a no, this is coming back.
And it actually took a long time after season one ended,
they kind of, they didn't make a decision,
they kind of strung it out there.
For months. For months.
But then there was a point where the answer finally was no.
You know, it was, was that an email or a phone call?
I think it was strung out so far
that it actually just turned out to be an email.
Honestly, I honestly can't remember the specific moment,
but I think that- Whether it was an email
or a phone call.
I think there was a time in which we were like,
well, if it was gonna get renewed, we would already know.
Well, that's what we told ourselves,
but I mean, I think that was,
because there was a definitive answer and it came,
it did feel like a failure.
I mean, now-
Well, it definitely felt like a failure
because it was like, okay, you know, it's interesting.
We've never told anybody this, but,
and I don't know if, we were together at the time,
I'm pretty sure.
What was it?
Was it Joe Penna's wedding that Ray William Johnson was at?
Where was it that, this is the first time
we ever met Ray William Johnson back in the day.
And he came up to us and we just moved out here
to make Commercial Kings and he basically said like,
we're all counting on you for this thing to be a success.
Like you guys are gonna be the first people to show that
I remember that. YouTubers can cross over
or whatever, you know, it was the first interaction
I ever had with a guy.
So there was this sense of, all right,
this has gotta work because people are watching.
Just because we're, I mean, that's added pressure,
but I mean, there's just the fact that,
hey, we're dropping everything.
We're moving to another coast.
This is what we're doing.
This is gonna be our life right now.
And we're dragging our families out here
and we're making this, well, not dragging them, but we're moving our families out here and we're making this, well not dragging them,
but we're moving our families out here,
we're making this thing happen.
They came willingly.
And it's, when there's that point of the answer's no,
yeah, it felt like a failure.
And now in retrospect, certainly, I mean,
after that is when we, in the aftermath of that,
we had to figure out what we were gonna do.
We started Good Mythical Morning.
I mean, I'm very, very thankful that it happened
the way that it happened,
but I don't wanna gloss over the fact that there was that,
there was more than a moment where it, yeah,
it just felt like, well, that was a big thing.
We put everything into that.
It didn't work.
Now what are we gonna do?
And the answer was we're gonna rebuild our YouTube channel
and we're, but by the way,
we're also gonna write a TV pilot.
We're gonna start having meetings for television,
something that we never talk about
because it never amounted to anything.
I'm not calling that a failure, but it didn't,
that didn't work out either.
But it's those conversations that you have to have
when you have to tell everybody,
you have to tell your friends,
you have to tell your fans,
you have to tell your audience,
you have to tell your family members,
you have to tell your mom,
yeah, the show, they didn't order it again.
And so I developed this speech that I would say.
And you know what?
There's still times that I say it now. I say it all the time. I mean, So you know what I that I would say. And you know what? There's still times that I say it now.
I say it all the time.
So you know what I'm about to say.
What's the speech?
The explanation, right?
Well, I'm just saying the fact that the show got canceled,
it's always how I explain why we live out here.
Because people are like, what brought you to LA?
And I'm like, well, I make internet videos.
And then one of the things I was doing on the internet got turned into a television
show, it got canceled after one season,
but now I'm doing the internet thing full time
and it's great.
So it's like, there's actually failure built into
the story of why I live here.
And I'll even throw in things and early on,
it was there more, it was kind of like taking the edge off
the fact that it didn't work, which was all true,
which was, well, you know, IFC was,
they were trying to figure out if they wanted to do,
they wanted to get into more narrative
and our show wasn't narrative.
They said it was good, we were very proud of it,
it was a great experience,
but they wanted to do other things on their channel.
So they made the decision not to order more of them.
You know, so it, you kind of give the explanation,
take the edge off, it wasn't us, it was them.
But the fact is, is that, you know,
this many years later, looking at it,
I think we both know how we would do things differently.
And I'm not saying it would have by any means guaranteed
that the show would have continued.
And I think we're all on the same page that ultimately
it's been great that it wasn't that it didn't get picked up.
We wouldn't be here right now without it.
So to Grace's question,
how has that experience shaped us as people, do you think?
I mean, I think I go into everything that we do
with an overwhelming sense that there's absolutely
no guarantee that it's gonna be a success.
But more and more with every year that passes with a,
I'm compelled to trust us
before we trust anybody else's voice.
Cause I think that a lot of the things
that we would change about Commercial Kings
are things that we just didn't feel confident enough
to say
or to implement, you know,
even though we probably had the ability to
as executive producers of the show.
I don't think it would have like made it have a second.
I don't think it would have made it have a second season,
but there's just this like, you know what,
there's no guarantees that anything is going to work.
And the best chance that you can give it
is by trusting yourself and doing everything you can
to execute your vision.
So I kind of approach every single thing that we do.
And I also approach everything with a,
if this doesn't work,
I've learned that it's always a step to something else.
So I can't get too torn up if something doesn't work.
Yeah, because we moved on to things which I'm so thankful
that they're better for us and we're enjoying ourselves
and expressing ourselves more.
And that's happened every single time.
Every single time, yeah, with Online Nation
and with, you know, there's lots of times.
Every failure has opened a door to something
that we've actually wanted more than the thing
that we were trying to succeed at.
I mean, I think on a much more microscopic scale,
I'm sure you'd agree with this.
Maybe I'm making this overdramatic,
but just in terms of feeling like a failure,
it's easy to feel like a failure as a father
or a husband sometimes.
I think that those are the things that happen.
Well, I'm a perfect father and husband.
More often because you got, when you have kids,
you know, it's a demanding thing to have patience
and I don't have a lot of that for younger human beings
and like, I gotta apologize a good amount to my children,
which I think is a healthy thing, you know,
I think they, that's my spin at least.
Hey, as long as you apologize.
I'm sorry, Father.
But I don't wanna just dive too deep into all the failures.
We should just move on.
Okay.
Unless you wanna talk about some more failures.
No, let's move on to a question from Mamrie Hart.
Good question, Grace.
Here we go with the main town.
My first question is,
being a fellow North Carolinian,
sometimes I think how easy it would be
to go back to North Carolina
and be able to make YouTube videos from there,
which you guys could do.
So what is it that keeps you in Los Angeles
rather than doing what y'all do back in the Tar Heel state?
Yes, I did say Tar Heel.
I know you guys did not go to Carolina.
And my second question is something I always ask people, which is, what's the first inanimate object you ever dry humped?
Cheers. She always asks people that? She's never asked me that. What's the first inanimate object you ever dry humped?
Cheers! She always asks people that?
She's never asked me that.
Well, I can believe that.
She sounds like she's on a phonograph.
Like when- Like we're playing a record?
Well, like when sound, when, you know,
we were able to first translate human sounds
into instruments.
You know, like- Like one of those big horns.
It's 1878, or whatever that was.
Like a record player with a big horn on it.
Yeah, yeah, that thing.
Okay, I guess.
I think it's called a phonograph.
I don't know, maybe I'm just making things up.
Do we think about going back to North Carolina
and doing this?
We could do this from North Carolina.
It seems like that's what she thinks sometimes, so.
I think there's a number of parts to this.
I think number one, number of parts to this. I think number one,
number one, we love Los Angeles.
So there's a lot of people who hate Los Angeles.
I recognize that and they're like homesick.
I think something about our personalities,
wanting to kind of be in the middle of things.
We haven't grown tired of Los Angeles yet.
So we like it here.
So that's just kind of to start off with.
Well, and I don't mean to say anything about the weather,
which is hackneyed, but I will say that I've never used
that word since I learned it in vocabulary class
in sixth grade. I don't even know what it means.
And I probably misused it.
I thought it was like when something's wrong
with your knee.
I'm hackneyed.
But it's 74 degrees outside right now, like 9.30 at night,
and it's probably that cool in here,
because we're not outside,
and I'm wearing a T-shirt, a hoodie, a jacket, and a hat,
and I thought about putting a hoodie over my head.
Yeah, yeah.
We've changed.
That being said, I just went back to North Carolina and visited family
and it was great and I miss all of them
and it's tough to be away from family and friends back home
but I love being here.
I just love being in a place where so many people
are trying to do,
either they're doing artistic stuff
or they're related in this business in some way
and you never have to explain.
And you know, it's not that people who are trying
to do interesting and artistic stuff are not elsewhere,
are not in North Carolina.
No, there's a lot of people doing interesting
and artistic stuff in North Carolina.
Yeah.
But there's something about a place like New York City
or a place like Los Angeles where people who are shooting
as high and as far as they possibly can in the arts
migrate to these places.
Not exclusively, but most or at least many of them
do kind of migrate to these areas.
And what that ends up creating is just a really interesting
community of people that not only can you interact with
just on a personal level,
but I think I'm gonna take issue with what she said.
I think it would be easy to go back and make the videos
that we're doing in North Carolina.
I don't think it would be easy because you know what?
Stevie is from North Carolina and what did she do?
She moved to Los Angeles and we hired her
when she was out here in Los Angeles.
Yeah. As an example,
everyone on our team. Our entire team.
You know, I love our team and everybody that works with us
and it would have been a lot more difficult
to gather these people together back in Lillington,
you know, or in Fuqua.
Right.
That's just the fact of the matter.
It's the nature of things.
Now when we shot the opening to Commercial Kings
in the middle of the street in downtown Fuquay Verena,
a block from where our studio was,
like literally in the center turn lane,
while people were driving on either side of the road,
we had a tripod and like a jib set up for that shot.
You can't do that out here without spending a lot of money
and getting a lot of cops to show up
and signing a lot of papers
and then spending even more money.
As we were, you remember this, when we were shooting that,
we looked over there.
The cops did show up.
We didn't ask any permission
and then we walk over to the cop,
Fuqua cop who shows up.
It was like, okay, we gotta apologize and plea our case before we could get.
Because we're in the turn lane, basically.
Yeah, yeah.
Not on a median, in the road.
Yeah, for 20 minutes.
Oh yeah.
Trying to get the shot we wanted without permission.
So we go over to him and we're like preparing our statement
and before we can get into word and edgewise, he says,
"'Hey guys, my son's a big fan.
How long are you guys gonna be here?
Like he wanted his son to come out and meet us,
which is great.
And then there was like a county commissioner who was-
The town commissioner.
He rolled down the window and he's like,
hey guys, I'm the town commissioner.
Anything you guys need, just let me know.
So there's-
Let's ignore the fact that you're creating
a traffic hazard at the moment.
So that, you know, there's something about home,
there's something about North Carolina,
there's something about the South
that you can't recreate out here.
I acknowledge that.
You know, there's a lot of different elements
about the people that we grew up with
and the place we grew up that you can't recreate
out here in Los Angeles.
But you know, I spent over 30 years there.
So did you.
And it's like, okay, well, this is a new season
and I'm not saying that we're gonna eventually get tired
of smog and traffic and shallow people,
but I do think that at least for the indefinite future,
we're in a place where we
feel like we're able to do what we do to the best of our ability because of where we're at.
Yeah. And I will say a mattress.
Oh yeah. Second part of the question, I'll say a stuffed Shamu from SeaWorld.
Here's another question.
Hey guys, this is Josh Sundquist. My question is a lot of times people talk about how having kids changes everything.
And I'm wondering if when you look at your videos now versus before having kids,
if you see any difference in the content that you produce.
Very calming voice.
I feel like he's leading me in a mindful meditation as he asks the question.
Which he does on his second channel.
Right.
So you can check those out if you want some guided
mindful meditation from Josh Sundquist,
which we didn't talk with him about on the Ear Biscuit.
So that's a little shout out.
Having kids changes everything.
Well, that's true.
But specifically with the question of, you know,
our videos now versus before having kids,
we had kids before we started making videos.
I mean, before we started making videos as we do now,
professionally on YouTube.
Yeah, I mean, the first breakout video,
as many of you probably know,
is when we did Pimp My Stroller,
where your son, Locke, and my daughter, Lily,
were in the double stroller that we pimped out
and turned into something that kinda looked like the Batmobile
with ground effects and spinners.
I mean, we have made a few videos,
I mean, you know, in college we had made some videos,
but none that like translated and broke out on YouTube
once YouTube became a thing.
And we were writing more funny songs
much more than we were making videos.
So that doesn't really-
I think it's more about since there is no before and after,
there's really a, this is the situation.
We have children, they watch our videos.
How does that make a difference in the content we produce?
I would say that we have not yet made a video.
I'm not saying that like we're about
to make something different,
but we haven't made a video that I don't let my kids watch.
Yeah, and we think about that a lot.
Like I think about my kids watching our videos
and I want them to be able to watch our videos.
I mean, we certainly have friends in the industry
who their kids can't see the stuff that they make
because it's comedy for an older audience or whatever.
Well, and you know, everybody has a different standard too
because I would say that a couple times a year
we'll release something,
whether it's an episode of Good Mythical Morning
or whether it's a certain guest we might have
on Good Mythical Morning or whether it's a music video that takes things on Good Mythical Morning, or whether it's a music video
that takes things in a certain direction,
where people who have a different standard
for what they allow their kids to watch will complain.
This usually happens on Facebook.
It seems that the most vocal crowd
when it comes to this particular standards
that they think our video should be up to,
kind of find their voice on Facebook.
And for every person who has said,
I can't believe that you guys did that or said that,
I'm not gonna let my kids watch anymore.
I've always honestly thought,
well, I'll let my kids watch it.
I mean, I wouldn't have made it
if I wouldn't let my kids watch it.
Right.
Yeah, and there's an upcoming sketch
that we're gonna release on our channel.
The camping sketch, there's like implied nudity from me.
And it's like, I'm gonna let my kids watch that,
but they're gonna be-
Well, you have to, I mean, implied nudity means
that we know that you're naked,
but you don't see that you're naked.
I mean, I'm technically naked.
There's implied nudity under my underwear right now.
I mean, I don't-
What?
I mean, what kind of rationalization is that?
What are you saying? I'm saying that any
nakedness that is in the video is covered up.
So therefore, it's blurred.
It's the same as having pants on.
Right, well, if the pants were a digital blur.
What's the difference between jeans and blur?
Really, if you think about it.
Well, this is a conversation I'm gonna be having
with my kids when the video comes out.
But I will say, because. Because they're gonna watch it and they're gonna be having with my kids when the video comes out. But I will say, because.
Because they're gonna watch it
and they're gonna be a little embarrassed,
but they're gonna laugh. They're gonna laugh.
And we're gonna think it's ridiculous,
and it's fine for me.
I mean, I'm not, and again, I mean, I'm not,
we're, obviously the majority of the stuff that we create
is family friendly, regardless of what your standard is,
but there are people who are super sensitive
about a lot of things,
and we're not here
to please those people and we're gonna disappoint
those people from time to time
and that's just part of the deal.
But I do want, but we do, there is a standard of,
I want my kids to watch what I do.
Right, but our kids are getting older.
They're getting older.
So what if when our kids are like 18,
is it gonna get R-rated at that point?
Yeah.
I don't know.
No, it's not, I doubt it.
But we're not making stuff for preschoolers.
No, we're not.
There have been people who've thought that.
It's not for kids, but kids can watch it.
That's what we always say.
However, Ear Biscuits in particular
is definitely not for kids.
And when there's an episode that we think
is definitely not for kids, we let people know.
So I think it depends on the property.
Speaking of kids.
My kids don't listen to Ear Biscuits.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, the only Ear Biscuit that any of my kids listen to
Stampy Cat.
Was Stampy Cat who submitted a question for us here.
Oh, that's a great segue.
By way of segue.
Hello, Rhett and Link, this is Stampy.
And my question is,
because you create most of your content as a partnership,
what is the best and worst thing about making videos with someone else
compared to making them by yourself?
That voice is absolutely amazing.
There's absolutely no reason to doubt why he has made himself famous.
It's that voice.
If you could talk like that, we'd be twice as big.
Better off.
Twice as big.
So what's the best and worst thing
about making content together versus making it by yourself?
I mean, so we'll answer that.
And you know, I'll start by saying,
we've never made anything apart, really.
I mean, you made a couple of videos for Jessie.
Like there are-
You're going there?
We don't have to talk about those.
I actually don't remember what that-
I don't even know what you're talking about.
I think you made a video for Jessie
and it's like, I didn't help you make it.
It was like an anniversary video.
I don't know if it was just a picture montage.
Oh yeah, I mean, and I've written, you know,
I've written some songs and stuff.
I wrote her a song back in the early marriage
when I was really romantic.
Were you blowing your hair?
Blow drying would be a...
Were you trying to go R-rated already
just because I mentioned it, huh?
Were you blow?
I was not blow drying my hair,
in the video or in the song that I wrote for it.
While you, okay, I'm sorry.
But the only, sorry for losing it.
But all of our creative endeavors have been done together.
It's like the only thing that we've ever done
kind of on our own is just the jobs that we did
before we had creative jobs.
Okay, but-
I have an answer to the best worst thing
about making content.
I think the best thing and the worst thing
are the same thing,
and that is you have to take somebody else's opinion
into account.
I mean, it's plain and simple.
You have to get buy-in on anything creative from you
if I'm pitching it and vice versa.
We both have to be on board.
And that can be one of the most frustrating things
if you have an idea that you think is incredible
or you have a perspective on something that you're like,
this is gonna work and it's just like,
if you would just let me do it.
But then the best part of that is.
Cause you want it to be easy.
You just want to pitch your idea
or I want to pitch my idea and then just,
there not to be any resistance.
So it's frustrating.
And it's not even actually resistance.
It's part of the process,
but the problem is when we interpret it as resistance
and it is frustrating.
But what we have found is although it can be
a frustrating process, it does almost always lead
to a better product because two minds are better than one.
It's a refining process.
You can get too many cooks in the kitchen without a doubt.
But we're basically the, you know,
when it comes to the core ideas.
Finish this sentence, if I worked alone, blank.
Well, this kind of gets into
almost like an accountability thing, which is,
if I worked alone, I would probably have taken
some sick days, a lot of sick days.
Like when I worked for the engineering firm that I worked for, I would probably have taken some sick days, a lot of sick days. Like when I worked for the engineering firm
that I worked for back in the day,
if I woke up with the slightest sore throat,
You were out of-
I called in sick.
I was like, this isn't worth it.
This job is not fun.
I feel bad.
I'm going to stay home and watch The Price is Right
and eat some chicken noodle soup
because that's my prerogative.
But I haven't seen The Price is Right
since we've started this business because- Drew Carey hosts. I heard about that. He's my prerogative. But I haven't seen the prices right since we've started this business because-
Drew Carey hosts.
I heard about that.
He's lost a lot of weight.
He looks very different.
He's not funny anymore.
I haven't watched it either.
But the thing is-
Just to keep the accountability intact.
Is there's no sick days.
Like I honestly cannot remember a sick day.
We've taken some days off for family. We've taken some days off for family.
We've taken some days off for vacation.
I cannot remember not coming to work
in the past nine years since this business started.
Well, it's interesting.
Because I was sick and I have been sick a lot.
I come to work because I know you're gonna be there.
And if I don't come to work,
I have to call and be like,
I'm not feeling this.
We gotta get, we gotta work. I can't just be work, I have to call and be like, we gotta work.
I can't just be like, I wanna go and do crafts today.
We've mutually committed to stuff but still,
if there's any time that we do everything absolutely equal,
I mean, if you get X amount of dollars,
I get X amount of dollars.
If you- Well, that's what you think.
If you're taking this amount of vacation,
I'm taking this amount of vacation.
If I gotta do this, well, you know,
it's funny, because sometimes if it's like,
hey man, my computer's busted, I need a new one.
It's like, we had this conversation today.
I'm like, my computer's not working well.
I think it's a justified purchase to get a new one.
But I'm mentioning this to you because I know that you're-
That means I get one.
That means you get one too.
And I need you to be a little excited about it.
And of course you're gonna be excited
because anything that you can get,
you're gonna get excited about.
But it's the other way, if you were to ask me,
there's a chance I'm gonna be like, nah, let's wait, man.
Well, you know, and you're kind of getting into
some of those issues that I think
that Hank Green's question raises too. So we're kind of getting into some of those issues that I think that Hank Green's question raises too.
So we're kind of getting into that.
So let's play his question.
Hi, this is Hank Green of Hank and John Green of the Vlogbrothers.
I wanted to ask Rhett and Link a question.
Hi, guys.
Hi.
There's something super powerful about two people leading a creative project together.
You see this a lot, though. It's usually siblings that are doing it, but you guys are pretty close to siblings,
often closer than siblings, I'd say. And also, I think it requires a really deep level of trust
and understanding to do this kind of thing together. And that is difficult to get outside
of actual family relationships. But I'm interested in building that with other people in my life who aren't in my family.
So what do you think it is about this kind of relationship
that increases the odds of success?
And how have you guys cultivated that trust
and understanding in your creative
and personal and professional relationship?
That's my question.
Bye, guys.
Good question.
Well, you know, the first part of that question of like,
you know, what about that kind of relationship
increases the odds of success?
I think we kind of got into that,
which is this two minds are better than one,
especially when they work together well
and that kind of thing.
But this thing about trust, which is, you know,
this is something- And not being siblings,
I think is, you know, where he's coming from.
Yeah. Well, and I would say for all intents and purposes,
we are, and maybe even we always describe ourselves
as an old married couple.
It's probably a better description than two brothers
because we made the decision to be friends
and we have continued to make the decision
to continue to be friends.
And be business partners and creative partners.
But the trust thing is, you know, thankfully,
and I think this is a key,
trust is something that we've never had to work on.
We don't have to work on our trust.
The trust is not something that is in jeopardy
and never has been in jeopardy.
And I think that is just a result of the time
and the track record, knowing each other since we were kids
and we had never violated each other's trust.
Now we've pissed each other off.
Yeah. And we're gonna get
into talking about that later,
but we've never violated each other's trust.
Yeah, I mean, trust is not something
that you can engineer.
You know, it's interesting that Hank said
he's interested in cultivating relationships of trust
and collaboration that don't involve being siblings.
Now, you know, he's married and I'm sure he gets the vibe
he's married and I'm sure he gets the vibe of commitment
and earning trust. So I'm not telling him anything
he doesn't already know in that sense.
But I mean, that's what our experience is,
is that it's something that we just,
we earned over time of not,
just not doing something
to just really undermine our friendship.
And that's why I get the computer
when you get the computer.
I mean, you know, that's, it's because I'm never,
even though I could, you know,
I have access to the corporate checking account
to the same degree that you do.
I could be going to the ATM and pulling out cash
and you would never look at it.
We don't, you know, but we know
that that's not going to happen.
And that's, I mean, I couldn't,
we couldn't do what we do if a trust was something
that was in the balance.
Right, and I think a good example is
the principle of adopting the language of we
when we're saying anything outwardly.
We made a decision, there was actually,
we may have talked about this in Ear Biscuit at one point,
but we made a decision at some point
where we actually said that we are going
to not take personal credit for things, instead we are gonna refer to,
even if there's something that very specifically
was just one person because we divide up
more and more creatively all the time,
and we know certain things that one of us is doing
and the other one's not having much of a hand in it,
we have a creative hand in everything that we do,
we both touch everything.
But if you're doing 90% of something,
like a whole bunch of the writing on something,
well, we still make a decision that when we talk about that
outwardly, it's a, we use we terminology.
We made this, when we did this, when we created this,
when we wrote this, I we created this, when we wrote this,
I think that's just a decision to protect,
just to protect against competition and credit.
Or an ego.
To protect against ego, exactly right.
And to say, hey, this is our agreement,
this is an extension of trust that we, you know,
there's something more important than one of us
getting credit or getting more accolades
than the other person and that's us creating
what we wanna, seeing a vision come together.
I mean, how many times have you heard about
creative partnerships or what people would describe
as a creative partnership and it turns out
that the parties in that partnership,
one of them or both of them consider themselves
to be the key or to be,
oh no, I was the one who started this
and then I brought you along or, you know,
and those partnerships always end.
Right, and like the Linda McCartney example,
if you look at the credits on any of,
every single one of their songs,
Lyndon McCartney, Lyndon McCartney.
I mean, they didn't all write all of the songs,
and you know.
But then they broke up, right?
Or was it that Lyndon got shot?
I mean, they broke up.
Yeah, they broke up, but I'm talking as the Beatles.
But yeah, we could still break up,
but then that would be a new agreement.
Did I just bust the analogy entirely?
You basically said-
No, as the Beatles-
But they went to India and things got weird.
Maybe we just gotta-
Let's just not go to India.
Don't go to India.
But as the Beatles,
and I could be a little wrong about this,
but every song, whether one of them wrote it
or the other one wrote it,
it's credited to both of them,
Lennon slash McCartney.
And they're both still alive
and both still best friends to this day.
That's what, it would be a perfect analogy
if that was the case.
So just, let's just believe that's true.
Let's just say that's the case.
Imagine a world where John Lennon
is still living and is Paul McCartney's best friend.
Well then what about all those Wings songs
that are pretty awesome?
You missed my Imagine joke.
I know I got it, but I mean.
Oh, you didn't even laugh at it.
Yeah, I mean, you didn't appreciate that at all.
Okay.
So Hank, I hope that helps.
Did we give Hank his due?
Well, I think the application is if you wanted
to build this kind of trust with other people,
then it's just gonna be, it's a time, it's time.
You know, it just, it's an investment
and there are some choices that you can make.
There was a commitment.
I mean, even the blood oath that we took in,
I mean, when was that, you know?
Middle school, middle school?
It depends on when we're telling it when it was.
Early high school.
It's fuzzy at this point.
I think it was early high school.
But we made a blood oath and it was, yeah,
it was a ridiculous thing amongst two kids.
It was very broad.
It was very broad, but it was,
the fact that we did that and that we talked about it,
was we were very commitment oriented, you know?
It was, and then when we moved out here,
you know, I mentioned earlier about writing a TV pilot
and when you talk to agents and stuff like that,
they're asking you questions like,
well, what is it you guys wanna do?
Do you wanna have a network television show?
Let's see if we can make something happen.
Do you guys want, and they would all ask the question,
do you guys wanna go out on auditions separately?
And we made a decision and we actually had to talk about it
again just to kind of renew that vow, so to speak,
that no, we're gonna be, it's too complicated.
We're gonna be in everything, we're a duo.
I don't think, there was never a serious consideration
that we would do things individually.
No, no, no, there never was, but when people would ask,
we would have to tell them, you know,
and we would have to take a stand.
It's like, no, I don't wanna see any opportunities
that's not something for us as a comedic duo,
that's for one of us individually.
And not to mention, I mean, the,
you know, I'm not saying that, you know,
when we're 70 years old,
if you're like, I really wanna open up a wood shop
or something like that,
I don't know if you're gonna wanna do that,
then I'm gonna be like, I'm not.
Well, don't do that without me.
But there's so many things that we want to do
as a duo that we've yet to do.
Any personal creative projects that we want to do,
I think they're gonna be after we've done everything that we wanted to do together
and there may never be anything else.
But I can see that there's a time
where there'd be something where like,
I got this little side project,
you got this little side project kind of thing.
But not until we do those things that,
we've got a list, you know, it's not,
it's a pretty long list of those things
that we've always said that we wanna do.
And we haven't made a lot of progress into that list.
And we are, yeah, I think that the things
that we wanna do in the way that,
I'll just make a prediction here.
And it's funny because I've thought about this,
like, you know, back in middle school,
being like thinking about the Fresh Prince
and DJ Jazzy Jeff, okay?
This is gonna get a little like geeky.
My kids are watching that show right now.
You know, we were like super into their music
and then Will Smith has this television show,
Jazzy Jeff shows up and he's a horrible actor
in the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
And then Will Smith becomes this amazing blockbuster actor.
Yeah, he's an actor, that's right.
Played Muhammad Ali and he was in that independence movie
and then a lot of other stuff.
And I don't know what he's up to now.
There's like Scientology going on
and I'm just scared for the guy.
Yeah, right, but he'll make a comeback.
But Jazzy Jeff just got into producing and his music
and I don't think that will happen to us
because I don't think we're,
I just don't think we're that much different.
We're not as different as those two guys.
Right, yeah.
And plus there is this pattern
that you have these big ideas then you convince me how great it is of those two guys. Right, yeah. And plus there is this pattern that
you have these big ideas, then you convince me how great it is
and then I like double down on it
and then so that's kind of a pattern
that will probably keep happening.
It works well.
So I think we're pretty safe in saying that, you know.
What about OutKast though?
I mean, you know, big boy and Andre.
I just think they're more different than we are.
Yeah.
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Rhett, what's your favorite part
about working with Link?
Link, what's your favorite part about working with Rhett?
Rhett and Link, what's your favorite part
about working with the impossibly awesome Stevie Wynn Levine?
Levine? Stevie.
Worth working with Stevie.
I think it's Levine.
Okay, Hannah's friends with Stevie,
so I guess she was throwing a shout out there.
But I also think the thing that was at work there
is Hannah is trying to create some sort of awkwardness
in getting us to say sweet things about each other.
Because I think that's her ploy here.
Well, I think, I mean, you know, I think that,
or maybe she's just a curious cat.
But there's an interesting thing,
and you were telling me that Jesse told you about this,
so maybe you should tell it,
about the awkwardness amongst guy friends to even-
Men are not willing to acknowledge that they are friends.
With each other, yeah.
Right.
But there's like just,
there's awkwardness in even saying we're friends.
So for us to on a show in a dimly lit room,
just the two of us to be then disseminated out later.
I don't like to think of it as just the two of us.
I like to think about the people who are also listening.
I picture them being here.
To turn around and say our favorite things
about each other.
At least you said our favorite things about
working with each other. Working with each other.
So it's not like, I love the way that your eyebrows dance
when you speak or something.
Well, that's not on my list about you.
But I've got some things.
I think I might have a couple of things, Link.
I think I might have more than one thing.
Okay, you'll go first then.
But we're not gonna make eye contact
while you're saying these things.
No, no, no, definitely not.
Okay.
I would say, and this may be a little,
I mean, this may be me saying something that,
because it benefits me and that's why I like it.
You're hedging already.
As opposed to just being a good hearted guy
who's just seeing something in someone.
Okay.
It is very, and I think I take it for granted,
having someone who, when it comes down to
a perspective on something,
like a perspective on a person that we meet, for instance,
a person that we hang out with,
or a situation where we go into a room
and we have a meeting with like five people,
me and you may differ on our approach
to different things a lot,
but we almost always have the same exact read
on major situations and individual people.
So much so that it's kind of like,
we already know what we're thinking collectively.
We just have to talk to somebody else about it.
Does that make sense?
Having someone who-
I think like you?
No, I'm saying I take it for granted
that one of the things that is,
I think this goes back to us being able to work together.
No, and I'm saying I think like you
and you think like me, we're very different,
but there's this whole large slice of the pie of life
that we kind of silently and wordlessly
kind of interpret in the same way
that I kind of take it for granted
until I like start trying to have a conversation
with somebody else.
So that's one thing.
I'd say the second thing is one of the reasons
why we work together so well, which is,
I don't like to finish things
and I don't like to get into the weeds on things.
And I have a tendency,
because you've kind of just done this,
to be like, it's like, once we get into like
a really complicated like edit or something like that,
I'm just like, I'm just gonna kind of go on autopilot now
because I know that Link is gonna worry about this.
To the nth degree and land it.
And so, I mean, if we were the same in that way,
then it wouldn't work.
So the fact that you take things and,
you know, put your focus on them,
I just kind of step back, I appreciate that.
Yeah, and I think mine, well, thank you for that, Red.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that you appreciate that about me.
I think mine kind of dovetails with that
in terms of how we creatively compliment one another.
Cause I think my first thing that I like about
working with you is that you're an ideas driven mind.
Like it's all about big ideas and the next idea
and a new idea.
Like when we were driving home last night,
carpooling back to our homes and we were just spitballing
about kind of plot points in some narrative thing
that would be cool to do,
you said you threw out a specific idea
and I was like, I thought that's a good idea.
My question was, did you just come up with that?
And you were like, yeah, I looked out the window
and I saw that and then I thought about this
and then I said this and it was just an idea.
And I was like, that's pretty amazing.
You know, so I appreciate that,
that the pressure is a little bit off.
If I can say, all right, this is the structure of something.
And then if we only had that thing
to fit into the structure, like here's a beautiful seat
for a race car, if there was like something
that could just sit in that, or I don't, you know,
it just kind of fits.
So it kind of takes the pressure off me
because in that particular sense.
So I appreciate that.
I also think this is a little, this is more personality.
Maybe this kind of dovetails with kind of business stuff,
but I appreciate the fact,
and I'm in dangerous territory saying this.
No. From an ego perspective.
I don't wanna stroke your ego too much,
but I'll just come out and say it
and then I'll backtrack a whole bunch afterwards.
Okay.
You're usually right about everything.
Oh, wow. I'm just gonna say it.
All right, okay.
I'm gonna write that down.
You're right about a lot of stuff.
Like when in doubt, he's probably right about it. And it's not, and I'm not write that down. You're right about a lot of stuff. Like when in doubt, he's probably right about it.
And it's not, and I'm not really talking about
like creative decisions where it's like really subjective
and it's just like, do you like this brush stroke or not?
It's more like.
On that painting we did together.
I'm thinking, I'm talking more along the lines of
like facts and decisions and like,
if you actually have to think
something through or to have some sort of applied wisdom,
I'm happy to defer or if like, I don't know,
I would just defer to you and then I would be pretty
confident that you're gonna say the right thing
or have the right opinion or enough of it that then I can just make
the last percentage points come together and make sense.
So I feel like that frees me up.
I feel like I'm freed up to be wrong about a lot of things.
There's a lot of fun in that.
And you even see that in Good Mythical Morning
or in Good Mythical More,
if you ever see a cut in Good Mythical More,
it's because I get way too loose
because I just feel like I can say anything I want,
we can just fix it later somehow,
or you'll just, you'll nip it in the bud kind of a thing.
So I enjoy that.
I enjoy the freedom of,
it's kind of like having a net, so to speak.
Rent the net.ret the net.
Wret the net.
Did that make things awkward enough, Hannah?
Are you happy with that answer?
Well, we also have to say what we appreciate
about a favorite part about working with Stevie.
And I think for me, that's pretty easy.
It's the fact that she-
And I guess we need to qualify who Stevie is.
Stevie is our psychic advisor.
That's right.
And no, she's a, what is she?
Head of production and development.
What is this girl?
And I mean, she's a lot more than that too.
I mean, that's her title,
but she's been very instrumental in the growth of our team
in our business.
And I think that one of the reasons why
is because she cares.
That's my favorite thing about her is that
she will lose sleep over something that isn't right
about something we're doing.
Yeah, like it's-
And that's very difficult to get somebody-
As if it's her content in a good way.
Yeah, because most people, you know,
when I worked for Black and Veatch back in the day,
I didn't care, I didn't know who Black or Veatch were.
And I didn't care about them or-
Are you sure it wasn't Black and Veatch?
It was Black and Veatch. It's like a dish blackened Veatch? It was black and Veatch.
It's like a dish that you would eat?
It was on all the checks.
I read the checks a lot.
But I didn't lose sleep
when something wasn't going right at work
and I realized that's a different scenario.
It was a big company but she cares.
And she really cares and she gets legitimately upset
when there's something that's not right.
Sometimes I call her at 3 a.m.
to make sure she's losing sleep about that.
And she's not, I'm like,
I'm making you right now lose sleep
and that makes you feel better.
And we've had to actually, you know.
Fire her a few times.
We've had to say, you know,
like, you know,
we gotta get you some help on some of this stuff
so you don't, because she has a tendency
to just take on so many different things.
Well, I mean, she supervises a team,
which we said is a great team.
We're not gonna brown nose Stevie anymore or our team,
but I think that we're very yes to her and to everybody's
everybody's work um all right so let's move on to an another question here uh joe beretta hey
retin link it's me joe beretta the secret former third member of retin link remember when you killed
me by drowning me in the pond in the remote area of your north carolina property if i recall, it was just as success was starting to rear its ugly head. I'm pretty sure I saw
dollar signs in your eyes as darkness ushered me into my watery grave. Good times. Anyways,
we all know that you guys are best buds, but I want you to regale us with the stories
of when you were truly mad at one another. What happened? How did you handle it? And how did you
make up? Cool, thanks guys.
I will be haunting your kin for an eternity.
Okay, yeah, so all right, it's out.
We murdered Joe Beretta.
We did and he's back.
And he's a ghost.
He's now a ghost.
But he asked a good question about,
he wants to get us to ditch the dirt
on us fighting with each other.
And okay, we've racked our brains about this.
Over the years, there's been different ways
that we fought with each other.
I mean, when you're kids,
we didn't really fight much as kids.
You were just like,
so I'm not coming to your sleepover.
And that didn't even happen.
We didn't even get into arguments as kids.
No, no, no.
No, but in college, we would,
by the time we were college age,
we would fight with each other.
We were like rough house.
Like in high school, but I don't know why it happened in college. It seems like, like in high school,
but I don't know why it happened in college.
It seems like more of a high school thing
that we would like wrestle with each other.
Well, I think some explanation is warranted here.
I mean, we were watching MMA, remember that?
I mean, that was a lot of it, I recall.
We started watching MMA
and then we would like wrestle with each other.
Like we would have our dorm room door open and we would be would like wrestle with each other. Like we would have our dorm room door open
and we would be like-
Wrestling with each other.
People would walk by and they'd be like,
what are those guys doing?
And then sometimes Greg or somebody would come over
and they would join in.
Yeah, and you would do that-
But it was like amateur wrestling.
Yeah, because-
It was like 1955 or something.
But there was like, it was pent up aggression.
And I think it was just, hey, you know,
it's kind of like how a big brother
punches his little brother.
We would just kind of fight with each other
because we're in each other's space so much,
you just start wrestling a little bit.
I mean, I remember it differently than that.
I don't remember it being the same
that like we would just be like arguing
and then it would turn into wrestling. No, no, no, it wouldn't. I think it differently than that. I don't remember it being the same that like we would just be like arguing
and then it would turn into wrestling.
No, no, no, it wouldn't.
I think it was a subconscious thing.
Yeah, you just thought it was fun,
but you would also do the I'm dead move,
which is, you know, you weighed how much more than me?
60 pounds more than me.
Easily, yeah.
And then you would, we'd be wrestling
and it would, you know, it might start
as like a little arm wrestle, but then by the end,
you would be laying on me full body
and you'd be like, I'm dead.
And you would just go limp.
That's a move, man.
That's an MMA move, it's the I'm dead move.
I couldn't get out from underneath the weight
of like your six, seven frame.
And you were a skinny guy, but so was I.
And it was, but, and that would just,
it would be fun up into that point.
But then when you would start being like, I'm dead.
And I couldn't get out from underneath you.
And you would be like, You got really mad about that?
I would start to get actually mad.
Yeah, I would get mad.
And you could tell I got mad because I would start,
I would start punching you.
I would do things that were like,
not a, not part of the rule book.
But not like punching me in the face.
I wouldn't bite you.
I thought you were just playing.
I wouldn't bite you like a child.
I thought you were just playing.
I never knew you were actually mad.
But I would, you couldn't see the look on my face
that I was mad?
I thought it was just part of the character.
I was not going into it like,
I was not going into like a pro wrestling persona,
like the sulking guy with the red face who's like angry.
That was not my pro wrestler character.
Well I'm sorry if I.
That was me being mad.
We haven't done that in a long time.
I don't think we ever will.
But there is the one.
I do that to my kids now though.
I'm dead, you still do that?
Yeah and they get so mad.
I know they get mad, don't do it.
But you were doing it that one time
and I remember our dorm room door was open
because it was, you know, it was just, it's just something that happened spontaneously. But actually it was a little bit, the dorm room door was open because it was, you know, it's just something
that happened spontaneously.
But actually it was a little bit,
the dorm room was cracked.
It looked like we might've meant for it to be closed,
but it was a little bit open.
And somebody walked by and like-
And we were just in boxer shorts.
Yeah, it was totally ridiculous
the more I think about this.
And I like got you in this like hold
and somebody walks by and like kind of like cracks
the door open.
I remember freezing and I could sense
that the door was open.
It was Grant.
Grant and he was like, okay.
And he just kept walking.
He slowly walked away.
And we didn't realize until like a little bit later,
like, oh, that was.
Yeah, I don't know what he thought about that.
He may have drawn some conclusions. But that, I Yeah, I don't know what he thought about that. He may have drawn some conclusions.
But that, I mean, I think that's how we fought in college.
And then there's like fighting over like,
did you take the trash out or did you steal my ice cream
out of the freezer?
The thing we've been really open about
is the fact that we fight a lot.
I mean, we argue a lot and it does get personal
and it does get heated.
And I think that's a part of any healthy friendship.
We don't have to get into that.
We talked about that quite a bit
in a number of podcasts in the past.
But it's more of a creative thing
and I think we kind of hit on,
if I'm gonna say anything about it,
it's that there's conflict that comes from
creative energies colliding in a way that makes good things
but it does get frustrating when you think
you've got it figured out and you encounter
what feels like opposition,
which turns out to be a refining force.
Now, it does go both ways.
We don't get mad at each other
like when we go surfing together, for instance.
Like it's usually when we're like working on something.
But hold on.
Now that you mentioned that,
I remember you getting mad at me when we went surfing
because my level of hearing wasn't to your standard.
Like you would be like talking to me
and I'd be like, what?
And you'd be like, I'm not gonna yell.
There's like other surfers around.
Yeah, I want you to hear.
I don't want everyone else to hear.
I wasn't mad, I was frustrated.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, and that was kind of like- You're like, what? And I'm like- But if I can't hear, I can to hear. I wasn't mad, I was frustrated. Yeah, okay. Yeah, and that was kind of like-
Cause you're like, what?
And I'm like, I don't-
But if I can't hear, I can't hear.
Yeah, but I don't wanna like be,
I'm having a conversation with you.
I don't want it to be a conversation
with every surfer out here.
And so I'm the bad guy just cause I can't hear.
Maybe you were talking quietly and you just don't know it.
Why am I the one that's wrong?
Or today-
It's not right or today, what about today?
We're walking to lunch and we're having a conversation
and all of a sudden in the middle of the conversation,
you're like, slow down, why are you walking so fast?
That's actually something I've been meaning to tell you
for a long time is like, you walk from point A to point B,
you walk so fast.
Well, I was hungry.
No, no, but no, no, no.
It's whenever, wherever, you never stroll.
You are a beeline, you are right to the next thing.
And it's just like, my wife always complains
about how I'm walking too fast.
She's like, I'm in high heels and your legs are so long,
slow down, so I always feel like I'm going really slow
for my wife, but whenever I'm walking with you,
I feel like I'm like, daggum it, I am going so fast.
Well, you should celebrate.
And my legs are so long that I'm having
to take these large steps.
Like, why is he in such a hurry?
So like, we were just having a conversation.
I was like, slow down a second.
But you were mad.
No, I wasn't mad.
I was, I mean.
And then, and that's where the real conflict comes from
when I'm like, why are you mad?
I'm just walking.
And you're like, I'm not mad.
And I'm like, well, you sound mad.
It's like, I'm just talking.
I'm like, well, why you gotta sound so mad
when you're just talking?
And that's the, so then we have an argument
about how we're having an argument, like an old married.
Because you want me to say like,
could you please slow down a little bit?
You're not gonna respond to that.
You've made it very clear over the past 35 years
or however long we've known each other
that you will not respond to,
could you just slow down a little bit?
But we fight because again,
like I'm backtracking from my compliment earlier
that it's like- You're backtracking.
You're right about a lot of things.
Yes, I was walking fast,
but it's like the line in the Big Lebowski,
and I've told you this before,
where the Big Lebowski tells Walter, he's like,
"'You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an."
You're not an.
And I'll go on record and say that,
but we fight because I will interpret what you're saying
as if you are an a-hole.
And I'll say like, why are you mad about me walking fast?
Why is it, why am, and I think I said this today,
I'm like, why is my speed the thing that's wrong?
Why can't it be your speed that's wrong?
And the way that you said it.
And so like, I'll start harping on like
how you said something,
and then you'll harp on the truth of what you said.
Yeah, because I guess, because.
And it's like a conversation that's missing each other
and that's conflict.
Because the first thing that comes to mind
when you ask that question,
why is it that your speed is wrong and my speed is right?
Is because, and this is how my brain works,
I think because I feel like I have a barometer
for my speed based on my interactions
with everyone else on the planet, including my wife.
And so I think to myself,
I know that I walk faster than the average person.
So Link definitely is walking too fast.
Therefore, I need to say something to him about it.
It's funny that when we were deciding
what order we were gonna answer these questions in,
we were like, we don't have anything about fights,
and then we just came up with two of them.
We know that we fight on a weekly basis.
We do it all the time.
And it doesn't matter.
I think that's the point is that we're not actually,
like this seems pretty heated, just for the record, if you're concerned out there,
there's absolutely-
I'll go ahead and tell you right now.
Every 13 to 17 year old person listening right now
is concerned and thinks that that was a big fight.
I have learned that.
I have learned that through YouTube comments.
But, and you know what I'm thinking?
To such a degree.
And as we've been talking about this fight,
I've been thinking, man, we're really onto something.
This is great.
Like I love talking about this.
And I just think, I think it's hilarious.
And sorry to generalize you 13 to 17 year olds.
Most of you thought that was a fight.
And so- Not all of you.
And sorry to kill you back in the day, Joe Beretta.
Yeah.
But if you wanna see as like the cusp
or the beginning of an actual fight in a video,
like a for reals fight, that does exist.
What is the name of that video?
Killing Rhett's Beard.
Yeah, it's called Killing Rhett's Beard.
It's when Link shaved my beard
on an episode of Good Mythical Morning.
At the end, the wheel lands on a black spot.
We had a secret spot at the time
and if it landed on that spot,
we had to do something bad to each other.
That was a surprise to us.
Surprise and that one was slap each other
and we slapped each other.
Simultaneously. Simultaneously.
And I thought that you slapped me too hard
and so I immediately slapped you back,
but I had kind of a, like, it was kind of a like,
come on, like, I was mad, but I was still kind of smiling.
But as soon as I did that.
Don't lie, you were not,
you were smiling to cover up the fact that you were mad.
Oh no, no, I was mad, I was totally mad.
But I was, in my mind, I was thinking, I was totally mad, but I was, in my mind I was thinking,
I'm gonna hit you again to like make it even,
but all that did was that you slapped me back
and we hit each other pretty hard, no punching,
and it immediately stops and goes dun dun dun dun dun,
whatever, however it used to end back in the day,
there was no Good Mythical More,
but we sat there and argued with each other,
yelled at each other for a good five minutes after that.
While Jason sat there. Jason just sat there.
Like six feet away.
Jason was stuck in a room with us for two years.
He just sat there for a lot of just,
you know, a lot of arguments.
And that explains why he doesn't work for us anymore,
by his own volition.
He's, you know, he's doing great things.
He's doing exactly what he wants to do.
Not listening to us bicker. I'm glad.
But yeah, you can see the fire in our eyes.
But watching it back, like watched it back today,
and I'm like, you know what?
I love the comedic timing of that.
Like you couldn't- It's funny, yeah.
You could not have- People love it.
Could not have made it. It was worth it.
We couldn't have planned it more perfectly the way that it. Could not have made it. It was worth it.
We couldn't have planned it more perfectly
the way that it, like the timing of it escalated
so perfectly.
Because people thought they were really mad at each other.
Because we were.
So that was a legit mad at each other, Joe,
and we did reconcile, we always do.
Let's move right along.
Let's get to a deep question.
This is Shay Carl Butler recording a voice memo in his garage for the
Ear Biscuits podcast. Download it for free on iTunes with Rhett and Link. All right. So I have
been asked to ask a question to the Ask Meisters themselves. And I feel like this is supposed to be
a semi-serious question, right? Question mark. We're not looking for pirates versus ninjas here.
Am I correct? Correct. I assume so. So here we go. If he does or she or it or whatever it is out
there that is bigger than us and that created us and hopefully loves us and cares for us,
if that thing exists and in the next 20 years, there's technology that also exists that makes
it possible for us to transcend death as we know it, to literally overcome the problem that our
species has faced for its entire existence. We don't die anymore because robots go into our bodies and our consciousness
is that big word that is us inside our bodies is able to live forever inside these robots that we
create. Can both of those things exist, that and God? And if so, what does God think about that?
Does he want us to put robots in our body? Or does he not want to?
That's my question to Rhett and Link.
All right, thanks.
I'm Shay Carl.
Follow me on Twitter.
It's at Shay Carl.
And then you can watch my fun family vlogs at youtube.com slash Shay Tards.
Okay, guys, looking forward to your answer.
Bye-bye.
You're kidding me.
I love it.
Who else can go from such an intricate question,
which seems like it was kind of like off the top of his head
still, which is kind of crazy,
to like just a plug. Self-promo.
Self-promo so quickly.
Well, it's interesting that it sounds as if he asked
that question from the gates of heaven,
but I think it was his garage that he asked the question.
I think he was on stage at the Mormon Tabernacle.
I'm just saying.
There was a lot of epic echo.
The acoustics were epic.
Okay, so you know, this question,
he called us the Ask Meisters.
I think the implication there is that we've asked
a lot of difficult questions here at this table,
including Touche.
So Touche.
Touche.
We will.
We grilled him for two hours.
We will receive a difficult question from Che.
Yeah, that one's okay.
So wow, well, this is.
It was a long question.
It was.
There's a lot to it.
But I think that, okay, so to summarize the question,
the question is, if we're able to take human consciousness
and put it onto or into a robot,
let's just say into a hard drive,
to get it to leave the human body,
can that scenario and God exist at the same time?
And if so, what does God think about that? Can that scenario and God exist at the same time?
And if so, what does God think about that?
So it's basically like if that movie transcendence
where Johnny Depp uploaded himself to a computer
and then he like to the internet, if that were possible,
what would that mean?
What would be the implications?
And what would God think about that?
First of all, as a movie, it wasn't the best movie ever.
It was, and I watched that movie on the plane
and the audio was real bad and I could hear a little bit
of the movie that the person was watching next to me
because there was like a short in the headphones.
Why does that always happen on a plane?
No, that was Johnny Depp coming into you.
But I'm not trying to dodge this question,
so let's answer it.
Interestingly, this raises another question,
which is kind of what Shae's getting at, I think.
And that is, let's just say,
if we are able to take human consciousness
and we are able to implant that onto a robot.
Like a hard drive, basically.
Yeah, there's a computer,
there's a hard drive on a robot,
but let's just say that we also have the technology
to create a robot that physically looks like a person.
And let's just make this personal.
Let's say that we're able to figure out how to get
your consciousness onto a robot that looks exactly like you.
Like it's such a good recreation that I can't even tell
the difference physically between you and this robot.
Well, first of all, lucky robot.
Second thing is,
well, I'm not dead yet.
So let's just say-
That's kind of irrelevant in one sense, I think.
No, I'm just saying that I would feel,
I feel like that's not me anymore.
Let's say I am dead.
Well, but let me finish the full scenario.
And let's say that we get to a point technology wise
that I am able to take or scientists, whoever,
are able to take your consciousness in your brain
and then plan it onto that you that looks exactly like you.
So not only does it look like you, but whatever consciousness that you have in your brain and then plan it onto that you that looks exactly like you. So not only does it look like you,
but whatever consciousness that you have in your brain
goes into this.
And then I, being your best friend for most of your life,
am able to interact with that second link.
Your wife is able to interact with that second link.
And after spending a certain amount of time
with second link,
I cannot tell a significant,
or I can't tell any difference between link number one and link number two.
And your wife cannot tell any discernible difference
between link number one and link number two.
I think so much so that you just start calling it link.
I could just call it link.
Okay, yes.
The implication would be that your consciousness,
everything that is you was something
that was biological slash electrical, right?
It was completely contained in the material world
and it was able to transfer over to another being,
another robot.
That would raise a lot of interesting questions, right?
That's a big if, but let's say yes, that happened.
But let's say that, okay,
but the other scenario is we transfer that consciousness
over to link number two and during my interactions
with link number two, I think to myself,
you know what, he seems to have the right answers
to some of my questions.
And he seems to remember some of the things that we did.
He's walking slower.
He seems soulless.
There seems to be something missing.
Or if Christy were to say,
there seems to be something missing,
then maybe what that thing that is missing would be
would be what people would call a spirit or a soul.
But let's just say for instance,
because I think Shay's question is,
what if it did transfer perfectly?
Could that scenario exist?
Like Christy can't tell a difference,
I can't tell a difference.
It seems like the full link has transferred.
But I could tell a difference.
I feel like I would tell a difference.
Like if I weren't dead yet and be like,
don't interact with that link number two,
I'm over here, man.
But that link number two would feel exactly
the same way as link number one, presumably.
If link number two was like in a computer monitor
and he wasn't in the body yet, he'd wanna get out.
He would have a, theoretically, if there was a perfect transfer. in a computer monitor and he wasn't in the body yet, he'd wanna get out. He would have a, theoretically,
if there was a perfect transfer.
He'd be mad if he wasn't out.
If there was a perfect transfer,
then he would have the-
I would be mad.
The same sense of self that link number one had.
And what if he did?
And what if he did?
Well, first I wanna, I feel,
I want to, I feel a desire to say that that wouldn't happen.
You don't believe that it's possible?
I'm just saying, even just an emotional level,
if I were to just isolate my emotional reaction
to that right now, that I don't want it to be true emotionally.
You're making it personal, but I guess I made it personal.
What if it was somebody you didn't know?
What if it was a stranger?
But I think if it's a perfect simulation,
is that not a statement about God or spirituality at all?
It's just a statement about technology.
Well, if it, I'll tell you, I mean, if,
I don't know if that, you know, I mean,
who's to say that we would even have the technology
to even entertain this question,
although there are people like, you know,
the futurist or Ray Kurzweil, whatever his name is,
who basically says, oh, this is gonna happen in 2045,
which presumably is within our lifetime.
I think that it would have implications, right?
Because if that were to happen,
if you were able to take a whole of a person
and put them on a hard drive,
then kind of what you're saying is that
if you can take a quote unquote soul
and put it on a hard drive,
then it probably can't pass into another dimension.
It can't go to heaven or whatever, you know?
So I think it would have some implications
in terms of what people think about the world,
but I don't necessarily think that it would have implications
about God in particular.
And to answer Shade's question,
can God exist and that scenario exists at the same time?
I don't see why not.
But it would definitely have some implications
about the way we think about the spirit, soul, body,
that kind of thing.
Yeah, I have to make some adjustments.
Yeah, it's interesting because I just don't know
how I would feel because I keep going back to how I feel,
which is maybe not the operative question here.
But so to put that aside for a second,
I do think I know this.
I'd like for somebody to pursue it.
Like I'm not saying outlaw it.
Well that's controversial.
I'm saying go for it, scientist.
Well.
Because all we're gonna do is learn.
I mean, as long as that doesn't mean
you're gonna suck the life out,
you're gonna kill somebody in order
to throw them on a hard drive,
as long as you're not doing that,
as long as you're not hurting anybody,
I'm saying what are we afraid of?
I agree with you.
What are we afraid of finding out?
Let's see what happens, man.
Well, I would like to think that I am open-minded enough
to have my worldview be adjusted by a discovery like that.
I mean, I think anyone who would say
that I'm not willing to follow that result
wherever it might lead is just saying,
I don't wanna hear something that's contrary
to what I already think.
So if somebody-
But it could also confirm what you already think.
It could.
You know? It could.
So what are you afraid of?
Not you personally, but.
Don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid of.
That's how I feel about it.
Right, I'm completely on the same page.
Now do I think that they're gonna be able to do that
in a lifetime? I feel weird about myself
being digitally cloned perfectly
to the point where I'm not special anymore.
That wigs me out.
But do it to somebody else and tell me what happens.
I'm very curious about that.
So go for it, Shay.
I guess Shay's doing this out in Idaho.
I think it's what-
This is why he moved back to Idaho.
He's freaking out there in Idaho.
That's why his garage where he asked this question
sounds massive. It's probably a massive lab.
It's full of freaking.
Multiple Shays.
Right.
He's growing other Shays.
And he wants to know what God thinks about it.
Yeah.
Well don't ask us, ask God, Shay.
Oh man.
That was fun though.
Oh man, that was fun though.
I feel like stupid and like I'm wigging out all of a sudden. Thanks for asking that question.
I hope that's not how we make other people feel
with their own beer biscuits.
Here's another question.
This one goes really deep.
Hey Rhett, hey Link, it's Harley from Epic Mealtime.
I sure as hell can't be the only person that wants to know the answer to this question.
Here it is.
Have you ever seen each other's penis?
When?
Oh, gosh.
Why?
Why not?
Have you ever bathed together?
Oh man. Wow, he went for it, didn't he?
I wrote that question for him.
Yeah, I'm sure you did.
No, I didn't.
Man, Harley is, talk about comedic timing.
That was a masterful delivery.
Well, I just go ahead and say,
as you can probably already tell
by the fact that this question was included,
we did not rule out any questions.
If you sent a question in via audio, we let you ask it.
Harley asked about whether or not
we had seen each other's penis and when, why and why not.
The answer is yes.
Let me just start by saying that.
And let me qualify that answer by saying that
if you're best friends with somebody
for as long as we've been best friends
and you don't at least accidentally see
the other guy's penis at least a dozen times,
then there's probably something wrong.
But it's like a fleeting.
It's like a frame of a movie.
I've probably seen your penis a dozen times,
but I've probably seen it for a total
of definitely less than 12 seconds
because I've never dwelt upon it.
I mean, it's been like, whoop, there it is.
That was an act, you know.
Whoop, there it is.
We've been in hot tubs with naked older men
in the middle of the desert,
like the hot springs out in Death Valley.
We've done that two years in a row.
We've been, we've skinny dipped with our good friend Mike
up in the top of a mountain in Southern California
up in the Sequoia National Forest.
The water was cold and we laid out on hot rocks
like reptiles for like 30 minutes and went to sleep.
We skinny dipped. Fully naked.
In high school, we skinny dipped in the-
Keith Hill's Pond. Keith Hill's Pond,
in the Cape Fear River.
Yes, I've seen your penis, you've seen my penis.
There was a whole group of people involved.
We don't make a big deal about it.
It's just two guys that have happened to be naked
at the same time a number of times, but like I said,
I've never made an effort to see it.
Now I will say that I have never seen your penis.
I've looked and I just can't spot it.
Totally true. I'm gonna refrain from making any jokes
or any comebacks at all. I knew I was gonna say that like five minutes ago.
I was just waiting for you to shut up
so I could say that stupid joke.
I remember a specific instance though.
This is a middle school experience.
You know, when like everything's awkward.
You probably don't, tell me if you remember this.
It was the first time that like,
you would go to the beach with your family every year,
but it was the first time like you were invited me
and like I went to the beach with you and your family. And what beach was it, Topsail? You would go there every year, but it was the first time like, you were inviting me and like, I went to the beach with you and your family.
And what beach was it, Topsail?
You would go there every year and it was like those-
Summer Winds, Emerald Isle.
Yeah, Emerald Isle, Summer Winds condos.
And I remember one night, like we,
you had a room, it had two single beds in it.
So I, you know, we were sitting on the edge
of our single beds, like getting ready to go to sleep.
And you know, when you're in middle school,
it's like, we're gonna stay up and talk.
So we were just like sitting around
hanging out in our boxers and a t-shirt,
just kind of like talking about middle school crap,
like, I don't know, Ninja Turtles or who knows what.
And I remember I was having a remember I was talking to you about,
I don't know, it could have been Ninja Turtles.
I don't remember what it was.
It could have been Ninja Turtles.
And I remember at a certain point in the conversation,
you were like, dude, your stuff's hanging out.
And that was like, was like extremely embarrassing.
I remember-
I don't know why it was, I mean-
It was just, I was like,
oh, I gotta put on some pants or something.
Cause there's like, you know,
there's not like a zipper on the boxes
and it's not a big deal or anything.
I was just looking out for you.
I mean, I wasn't embarrassed.
Yeah, it was just a weird thing,
but it's like one of those things when you're,
I don't know, 12 years old, and I was like,
oh, I wonder if he's still gonna be my friend
after I had my junk hanging out of my boxers.
I put it away and I kept talking about Ninja Turtles
after I put my Ninja Turtle up.
Right.
Well, you know, the interesting thing,
this is actually making me- Hero in a half shell.
This is making me remember,
and I think a lot of guys do this.
In college, we went through this phase,
like probably junior year,
because we had the apartment with Tim and Greg,
and you kind of go through this phase
where you're just like, if I need to go from the-
I don't know what you're about to say, by the way, if I need to go from the shower. I don't know what you're about to say.
If I need to go from the shower to my bedroom,
I'm just gonna walk through the house naked
and I don't care which of my roommates sees me.
Right.
All four of us did that.
Yeah.
And we just, we were just like, we don't care.
And there's almost this certain sense of freedom
and like adulthood that you kind of feel
in that part of that time in your life.
It's like getting over it.
It's like.
I remember how timid I was in high school to be like,
oh, I'm in the locker room.
I don't want anybody to see me.
I'm really scared about this.
But then all of a sudden you start growing out of that
and you're like, oh, I understand why all the professors
in college are in the locker rooms naked
because they don't care because they're over it.
Yeah, like when you put your butt cheeks on their back,
they don't even flinch or get up or say anything
or grunt, nothing.
You kind of revel in that for a few years.
And so, I mean, again,
I would, I never,
by, for any, there was never any purposeful eye contact
with it in other regions.
And I would assume that you feel the same way.
Yes.
But I would see that you were naked.
So it would be like penis in the periphery.
It's sort of, this sort of,
probably a good way to describe it.
Right. Right.
Which could be the name of our next album.
Yeah, or at least like a side band.
Is that a pun?
I don't know.
I actually don't know how that's a pun.
Well, side, I don't know.
Well, okay, so Harley, thanks for that question.
Hopefully that's, oh, have we ever bathed together?
No, I don't believe so.
We did just recently make a video where we played,
I played a guinea pig and Link played a little girl
and we were bathing together.
But it was green screen bath.
Yeah, right, we were fully clothed.
We have one last question.
This one is a secret question, it says.
All right, here it goes.
Hey, I'm Alex.
I'm Eddie.
And I'm Chase.
And I'm Kevin. And we work for you guys
literally every single day.
And we just had a quick question. We were wondering when we were
going to get paid.
Okay, guys.
Well, it's going to be a lot longer
now that you asked that question.
Yeah, we'll get back to you on that one.
Okay.
Well, the pranksters trying to get in
on the podcast. Yeah, that's what happens when they have access
to SD cards.
High quality, highest quality audio of all.
Probably recorded right here
at the round table of dim lighting.
Yeah, we're not paying them.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's it.
You know, this was fun.
I think we could do another round of this next time.
This is a tradition that can continue.
I just don't want the questions to get tougher and tougher.
So maybe it won't continue.
Well, yeah, we may have to start leaving some out,
but we did make every effort to answer every question
to the best of our ability.
Thanks to everybody who took the time
to ask these questions.
And thanks for the times that you guys were guests here
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There's a part of me that doesn't wanna take a break
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with the guests that we have here at the round table.
And you know, it's kind of a forced,
kind of a relational rejuvenation for us.
I feel like it's a good thing for us
to have these type of conversations, you know,
where we reminisce, we process things. A lot of people who are guests end up saying things
at the end of our conversation or after we stop recording that's like, yeah, some people say,
wow, it felt like therapy. And that's kind of funny, but kind of true too, I guess,
depending on some of the questions we ask. But the thing that I enjoy people to say
is when it's like, wow, you helped me put things together
and gain a perspective on my own life or my own career.
People verbally process things on the show.
Yeah, so I appreciate the way that that's something that,
A, we get to share in that processing with people
and experience that as they go back through it.
And if there were eight days in a week,
we would continue to do it indefinitely.
But the other half is just when it's the two of us,
there's kind of, we experience that too.
I think it's nice to think back and to process
why things work so well for us and what's going on
in our friendship and creative collaboration and everything.
So yeah, I'm in the break.
I'm gonna be glad to be focusing
on these other creative endeavors,
but I'm gonna miss this until we get back into it.
So hang in there guys, listen back through them.
And that's all I got to say.
I'm thankful.
Yes, very, very grateful to the Ear Biscuiteers.
I'm going to go take a bath by myself.
Okay, please do that.