Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Link Accidentally Reveals His TikTok History | Ear Biscuits Ep. 403

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

If you haven’t made your TikTok likes private, here’s your sign to do so! In this episode, Link discovers his TikTok history was public, causing him to freak out at what he might have “liked,”... and Rhett finds out some intriguing details to his son’s music choices. Plus, why you really shouldn’t be donating sex toys to a thrift store. Or… anywhere, really. Eww. Join the Mythical Society to watch the Cotton Candy Randy Mediation Special! mythicalsociety.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, I got to share a privacy scare. Whoa! An online privacy scare involving my TikTok account. Thanks to you, my friend.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah, I know about it. I was acting surprised. I was feigning surprise, they say. But you don't know. I have not told you about my experience at all. No, no, I want to know about your experience. And I'm going to be talking to you about something I have learned about my son's musical taste, which I think we both might find fascinating.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah, because I actually was talking to him about music the other night. The other night? When I was over at your house. Oh, oh. So, yeah, put a pin in that. about music the other night. The other night? When I was over at your house. Okay. Oh, oh. So, yeah, put a pin in that. Can I go first? I need to get this off my chest, man.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Oh, yeah, please go first. I didn't know what you're signing me up for when you tagged me in a TikTok thingy. I don't even know what a post, what is a TikTok? If you put a TikTok on TikTok, it's called a TikTok? Is that what it is? You emphasize the thought? I usually just call it a TikTok, and then usually I call it a TikTok video, or a TikTok vid if there's young people listening. Just a TikTok vid, sometimes a TTV.
Starting point is 00:02:02 How did this work? You were teasing. Well, I mean, I'm semi-active. Semi-active on TT. That's what I call it. Yeah. I make TTVs every once in a W. And because I've been talking about the James and the Shames stuff, yes, I've been a about the James and the shame stuff. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I, I've been a little, a little bit more active over there and because you sang with me on the song. Right. So a lot of people, well, we were doing something that we were doing a photo shoot for something that I don't know. You may faint.
Starting point is 00:02:38 You may find out about at some point it was kind of a weird photo shoot. It will explain in some point in the future, but it wasn't Playgirl. But we were at this house. I wish I were ready for that. They did ask us, would you guys like to get in the pool? And I was like, I'm not in pool shape. You got to give this guy two to three months warning for pool shots.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Maybe that's what we need. Maybe we need to put a Playgirl shoot on the calendar. If you set a date... That would be like our Marvel movie. Well, let's just... Baby steps. Pool. Pool shoot. Oh. And I'm talking about billiards. Okay, so step one, three months from now we do a billiard shoot. Three months after that we do an actual liquid pool.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Swimming pool. And then three months after that, we do an actual liquid pool. Swimming pool. And then three months after that, Playgirl. That's the pace. That's where we're headed. Okay. And then a year from now, we start our OnlyFans, but it's the two of us together. Oh, I already have one. Oh, why didn't you tell me about it? Well, it's the same thing about my TikTok. I don't, you know, nobody knows about it. So anyway- Until you start talking about it publicly.
Starting point is 00:03:42 We were at this house. It wasn't my house. Everyone was like, oh, now we know you got a secret room. Anyway, it was a dumb little thing that was featuring the song that you sang on where, you know, I opened up a secret door to a bar and you stumbled out. And it was like, surprise, Link singing on my song. People thought that was your house. Let me just say. It's not your house.
Starting point is 00:04:02 People were really happy to see that. It's got over a million views. You know, that's all it takes, Link, is just for your best friend to stumble out of a bar to get a million views on TT. Yeah, you know? But I tagged you. See what happens when you include me in your solo project. Well, okay, let me...
Starting point is 00:04:21 You can go look at the other views on the other videos as well. I have. I have. So there was also, I had to actually ask you in person while we were there, is this your TikTok, like, linkneel1? Right. And then, like, the actual. I joined too late to get linkneel.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And then it was, like, linkneel, a.k.a. Snuggle Baby, is what you actually call yourself. Hellcound Snuggle Baby. What did I say? You just left out the Hellcound part. Hellcound Snuggle Baby. Yeah. And you were like, yeah, that's me.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And no posts at the time. I think you had like under 2,000 followers at the time. So I have significantly contributed. I think I had 800 followers. Oh, really? Yeah, I had under 1,000. Under 1,000. So I don't know what you're at.
Starting point is 00:05:12 When we're recording this, you're like closing in on 10,000, but I'm sure it's going to go up. I have 8,000 followers now. So you 10X'd me. Well, it's still happening. It's still going. And now we're talking about it now. People know you got a TikTok.
Starting point is 00:05:26 But- Link Neal, the number one. I was- Apparently, if you want to follow, nothing. I was looking at- It could change. I don't know if it was the comments or if it was a tweet. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Someone said, Brett put Link's TikTok on blast and- And nobody knew it existed. Unless you really were digging. Link's favorites, Link's likes, liked videos are public. And so I get a text. So I texted you. At 9.36 at night, which is pretty much guaranteed that I'm not going to get that text usually.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I was so surprised that you responded because I was like, he's six minutes into shut-eye right now. Right. Exactly. Which is the name of our next song. Six minutes into shut-down. Shut-eye. Shut-down.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Exactly. It is a full shut-down. Let's be clear. It is a shut-down. I do have a gift, you know. It's not that I'm not an anxious person, but it does not affect my ability to fall asleep or stay asleep. And I'm so grateful for that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 So, yeah, I'm in bed getting in there a little bit later, snuggling up in my sheets. And I guess because I had my phone open, I just, the text came through. Oh, I caught you while you were grazing. open. I just, the text came through. Oh, I caught you while you were grazing. Well, I think I was making sure that my alarm was set to the right time or something. Okay, all right. You know, because I really try not to look at stuff right before I go to sleep. It's a bad habit. Because they say not to do that. They say. I don't like to plant thoughts in my head. I just like, you know, I like to purge all thoughts. You can plant good thoughts in your head right before you go to bed. But...
Starting point is 00:07:07 There's apps for that. You... There's all videos you can listen to on YouTube where it's like sleep talk, and it's people talking you to sleep. Boring stuff? That's a good idea. Well, it's kind of what we did for the society. Let's dream about that. We did. Let's dream about that.
Starting point is 00:07:21 So, yeah, you send me this text. It's like people are saying that your TikTok likes are public. And I just immediately had this physical reaction, you know, and like the blood like drains out of your body. What did you have to be ashamed of? And well, I'm just telling you what the physical response, not the logical response. First, it was physical. The blood drained out of my body, which feels weird when you're lying down. Because what does it do? Go out the butt hole? Like, what's the lowest point of a lying down link? I don't think the blood leaves the body. I think the lowest point of my prone body is the butt cheeks. So, you get some swollen butt cheeks like a baboon in heat, but that's about all.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I think my butt cheeks were engorged with blood. Yep. As a result. Did you turn over and show your wife? Of your. Hey, baby. Feel how hot my butt is. My butt is engorged right now.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Is yours. So yeah, it was just like this like immediate just like jump to embarrassment. But you haven't been looking at any dancing ladies or anything. And then, well, yeah. You haven't been liking them. Here's what it felt like. This is what I like it too. It's like if you're walking around a room, like let's say you're in a room and you're doing some sort of chores and stuff and you're going about business and you've been in there for, I don't know, if it's 10 minutes or an hour.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Okay. And then all of a sudden somebody speaks and you realize, oh, somebody's been in the room the whole time. Oh, I didn't see him. I cleaned right around him. You know what that feels like? It's just like immediately you're running everything through your head. Or like...
Starting point is 00:09:04 Oh, what have I been saying? If you join like a video chat, like a Zoom meeting or a Google Meet on your computer and then nobody's in the meeting yet, so then you open another tab and you start, well, I might as well like browse or do something. You go on TikTok and start liking incriminating videos. Right, you do stuff like that. Might as well like browse or do something. You go on TikTok and start liking incriminating videos. Right. You do stuff like that. And then all of a sudden you forget that you have an open webcam and video chat going when people start joining the meeting.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And then you're like, it's just you have this feeling of like being exposed. It's like when you realize that you've been watched and you don't know it, it kind of feels like, oh, my God. It's not that you necessarily remember doing anything compromising. I probably was. You were dancing like no one was watching. Exactly. And so I was like scrambling. I was scrambling to get on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I didn't even look at what my favorites were oh I did well I want to that's the first thing I did that's the exercise that I want to do well that's the first thing
Starting point is 00:10:12 I did before I called you oh really before I texted you no no I texted you and then immediately went and looked at your life I'm scrambling
Starting point is 00:10:18 I'm scrambling like oh god how do you privacy settings because when I signed up for TikTok it's just like everything else you sign up for.
Starting point is 00:10:26 It's, okay, I'm not planning on doing anything here. Right. Just in case. And you really got to go all the way through all those settings. Just taking your claim. It's like buying a square foot of the moon. You know, that was going around for a while. Yeah, it's just a little trend.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Or like naming a star after yourself. You do it just in case. Right. Just in case. Just in case we do populate the moon. You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I have a certificate that says I own a square foot of this. But what you don't do.
Starting point is 00:10:55 You're not building this mall moon, moon mall on my land. Exactly. But what you don't do is you don't go into the settings on your moon's, what's it called when you have a section of the land? Tract. Your moon tract. Moon tract. You don't go deep into the settings and you're like,
Starting point is 00:11:12 well, I don't want anybody to see where I step around on my tract. It's like, who cares? It's just going to be footprints. And you can pretty much just spin on one square foot. You don't really think about it. So I changed my privacy settings. And then you started looking at what people might have seen. And then I was like, let's see what people have seen.
Starting point is 00:11:30 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. 21 rows of 3. 69. Is that 69? Oh, 63. I wish it was 69. 63. I have favorited 69 things. That's the first just scandalous thing. And then I'm like, oh crap. I gotta look through all of this.
Starting point is 00:12:00 So I'd like to look through this right now, and you tell me... I have candidates for what could be the most incriminating stuff. Okay, well, I saw one thing that I've worn an opinion about. I can... Yeah. I know what you're talking about. I can withhold it. Now, first of all... But I'm also guilty of it. The first... Really? The first... If I go all the way back to the beginning, the first thing I ever favorited on TikTok
Starting point is 00:12:27 is a 30 million view video of Lizzo. And of course, this was pre-whatever she's going through that I don't even know about. I have an inkling that something happened with Lizzo and I don't want to know about it. Okay. But yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:46 At one point, I favorited a Lizzo tweet. TT. TT. All right? Leave me out of it. Whatever it is or was or will be, leave me out of it. Yep. And then a few more.
Starting point is 00:13:04 There's an overhead view of a Nutella jar. And I'm like, oh, no, this could be sexual. Well, from here it looks like. People sending me pictures of overhead views of peanut butter jars all the time. It looks like a vagina from here. I know, but then I clicked on it, and it's just like when you get to the end of a Nutella jar, It's just like when you get to the end of a Nutella jar, you fill it up and shake it up,
Starting point is 00:13:30 and then you've got like a nice little Nutella milk. Oh, okay. So I was like, all right, that's fine. And then... But I think it has 70 million views because it sort of looks like a vagina. No, it has 70,000 views. Oh, okay. Well, I guess people don't care anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Is your jar of Nutella almost empty? Well, you brew your coffee into it. Oh yeah, cause you gotta melt it. And then you steam your cream, and you put that in it, and you got a Nutella jar latte. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna save this because I might never do that, and I never did. Well, you know why you didn't do it? Because you've got to have collections. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You've got to save to collections. I don't know that. That's where you save a video instead of just liking it. Instead of liking it. So you would save that to either categories could include ones that look like vaginas or cool Nutella hacks or maybe just food. I would probably put that in just food. A lot. Which is the one I have.
Starting point is 00:14:33 A lot of mine are hip-hop culture-related stuff that I don't even need to get. Like producers, like footage of the first time that Timbaland played a beat for Jay-Z and it was caught on camera or stuff like that. Or Frank Zappa talking about his guitar style. Or Bernard Purdy talking about his drumming technique. Okay. And maybe Trevor Noah talking about why he decided to leave The Daily Show. And then, of course, I thought I would have many more of these,
Starting point is 00:15:12 but like middle-aged men showing you how to stretch stuff. I have a whole category of that. I need to make a category of that. I just call it body. Body. Body. And then I just call it body. Body. Body. And then I start. My body.
Starting point is 00:15:26 The first thing that I started to get embarrassed by was I would favorite or like videos featuring me. Yep. Saw that. That's what I saw. So. That's what I noticed. Just little moments from this show. That's what I noted.
Starting point is 00:15:44 That I found. Just little moments from this show. That's what I noted. That I found. Yeah. Like the story of me crying on my wife's shoulder. I was like, you know what? I want to be a fan of myself for that. Well, hold on. Is that really why you like it? Because I'm guilty of this as well.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I honestly don't know why I liked it. I occasionally, well, I actually, I have a habit, if not an obligatory compulsion, to when something from the Mythical account or the Mythical Pods account pops up on my FYP. Yeah. I just like it because I'm like, hey, this is, you know, this is our... Support your own cause.
Starting point is 00:16:25 This is our business. Yeah. It's not like voting for yourself in the class election. Right. That's tacky. And occasionally, I'll like one of my own videos if I feel like it needs a boost. So it's not a judgment of my own video. Like, oh, I do like this video.
Starting point is 00:16:44 It's more like maybe liking this video will help it do better. That's not why I did it. I did it because I felt like that was a special moment, and I wanted to. I really liked it. I actually liked it. I mean, sometimes I watch some of the stuff we do, and I'm like, well, damn. If I wasn't me, I'd still like those guys. And so didn't you like it? Yeah, and I'm like, well, damn. If I wasn't me, I'd still like those guys. And so didn't you like it?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah, I mean, yeah, I liked it. I liked it. There's some Merle Haggard clips in here. I liked a clip of Wynonna Judd telling everybody she's okay. I really liked that. I really liked that I was like wow I'm glad I liked this 100 Year old
Starting point is 00:17:29 Appalachian woman Just talking Well she's 87 But her voice is amazing It's great I just love that voice I like that She reminded me of my nanny the way you'd heat your water in. Just set a cup in there, put a teaspoon full of Jell-O. I like me a little more. I just love that voice.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I like that. She reminded me of my nanny, if my nanny was like real saucy. So I had to like that. I wasn't embarrassed at all about that. And then, let's see. I'm going to say the thing I was most embarrassed by. I was like, oh, this is kind of embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I got this like, this trippy Alice in Wonderland animation thing that like, just like totally freaks you out when you look at it. And like, I was like, man, this is cool. Why would you be embarrassed by that? I don't know. It was just like, it's just like, what are you? Some sort of, some sort of hippie dude just staring at your phone? Well, here's the thing. You avoided... I was searching for what I was going to be...
Starting point is 00:18:33 You avoided the most obvious embarrassing thing. Oh, I'm coming back to the most embarrassing thing. Well, no, I'm saying I think the most incriminating thing would have been as if you had a hot lady, you know, shaking her money maker. Right. Like, oh, the most beautiful women from hip hop videos, if I was going to stay in the genre.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And then I could defend it. Oh, yeah. I'd have none of that. So, yeah, I started to feel good. But then I had this one. Did you see this one? I didn't spend a whole lot of time. This is the one that I was like, oh, is this the one that's going to get me?
Starting point is 00:19:12 It's, I don't know, it's these, it's this hippie couple. Why did you like this? That's, I mean, it says that she's a yoga teacher, but it's this guy with his shirt off. This feels like that love spasm video that went viral. On Goop? The Goop video? Well, it was a TikTok, and it was like a girl who was like, he's having a love fit or something, and she like hugs him and shakes him,
Starting point is 00:19:41 and it's like the cringiest thing I've ever seen in my life. This feels like you're in that territory, man. The girl, the yoga girl is wearing, she's wearing a toga type thing, like a cheetah toga, and the guy's just wearing shorts, and there's... It's a pretty wide shot, though. It's a wide shot, and it's, I don't know who these people are, but it's called intimate reconnection, and it just goes through all of these things that they're basically cuddling and tickling and talking to each other.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Were you trying to get, like, tips? Well, I was afraid that it just seemed like I was just gawking at this couple who were just, like, cuddling and tickling and giggling with each other. But, yeah, and it goes through steps of different things for intimate reconnection. One, non-sexual melting hug. Two, synchronized circular breathing. But they're like, I mean, they're scantily clad and they're just like, they're doing something that I wouldn't film and put on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Do you remember when you liked this, the reason? Oh, this is sweet. Yeah. I need to remember this so I can do these things with Christy. Number three, one-minute appreciation game. So you really watched this video. It's quite a long video. I'm telling you now what's in it.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Number four, make each other laugh. Number five, discuss feeling using active listening. So it's basically just a video of these people like connecting intimately, but non-sexually. But just a casual user would be like, oh, you're a peeping Tom on these hippies having a sexual connection, having a little, you know, foreplay. I don't think watching a TikTok video can make you a peeping Tom, because you're watching something
Starting point is 00:21:27 that someone put on the internet to be watched. Yeah, but when you're looking through this stuff and you're like, what are people, I know. That would be a different thing. I know, and we've never done that. No, no, especially not in eighth grade with your girlfriend. Well, I don't, it was your idea though.
Starting point is 00:21:43 No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. I felt really bad about it because my wife, Christy, you know her. She had a peep and tom back in high school. Well, high school, I'm just saying middle school is the cutoff. You should never do it, but if you... Right. I'm saying...
Starting point is 00:22:02 We were in middle school. As like a person going through like crazy hormones and like you don't know what's going on. You don't know which way is up. I am not defending you. I'm not defending it, but I'm saying that if it becomes an adult activity, then that's like a mental problem is what I'm saying. That's like a crime.
Starting point is 00:22:17 But I'm saying like two 13-year-olds looking in a window. And we were a long ways away. Oh, yeah. We were behind a woodpile. We were behind a woodpile. It was on the other side of the yard. We didn't go into the yard. We didn't stand outside the window. We were 80 yards away.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Her bedroom was on the second floor. We could not have thrown a football at this woman. And hit the window. No, not even close. And if the window was open... It would have landed halfway at the swing set. And we didn't see... Nothing. She folded some clothes.
Starting point is 00:22:44 She folded some clothes. She was some clothes. She folded some clothes. She was folding clothes. She was folding clothes. That's all that happened. The most enticing part was like, ooh, is that underwear she's folding? Is she folding underwear? That was the discussion that was happening. It wasn't right.
Starting point is 00:22:57 It was wrong. It was very wrong. We condemn it on every possible level. We condemn it on every level from every angle. Help us out, Jenna. No. Come on, Jenna. I don't see.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I think it's fine. It's fine that we move on is what you're saying. Let's just move on. Let's just move on. I'm sorry I brought it up. You were young. You were teenagers. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:26 We were barely in eighth grade. Right, right, right, right, right, yeah. Yeah, I thought what was going to incriminate us was going to be me watching hippies cuddle on TikTok. Okay, what else? This is it, man. This is the thing that scared me the most. But yeah, the reason why I saved it is because, oh, I want to do this.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Okay, well... And this is a good reminder to do this. Long story short, you didn't have anything to really be incriminating. And you found that out at the same time. We were both simultaneously looking at my favorites. No, I didn't scroll. I looked and I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:59 oh, he liked a video of himself. He'll figure it out. That's kind of what I said, and I went on to do the rest of the things. I liked a couple videos of myself. The other one I liked was my dad singing Happy Birthday to me on Dispatches from Myrtle Beach. Well, that's a sweet thing to like. Because now I have that.
Starting point is 00:24:15 You can remember it forever. Right. You can put it into a collection of the times that people sing Happy Birthday to you as well. Yeah, and I have it. I'm too a little focused. Yeah. Happy birthday to you as well. Yeah, and I have it... I'm too a little focused. Yeah, I have it right next to a video from Murda on the Beats, talking about his come up. Such a strange...
Starting point is 00:24:31 Well, I'm gonna talk to you about music. But I was so relieved. From a different perspective in a little bit, have something else to share with you. But first... You got nothing on me! We wanna remind you that... You can't catch me with my pants down!
Starting point is 00:24:45 I wasn't done. You can't catch me with my pants down. I wasn't done. You can't catch me with my pants down. Yeah, we're 25 minutes in. I don't... He's not done. Because I don't look at TikTok with my pants down. We're going to let it burn out. It's like a candle.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I have nothing to hide. It's like one of those candles. Sometimes it's like... Link is like those trick birthday candles that you keep trying to blow out. It's because my brain works slow. So what I was about to say was, you might know that Link and Cotton Candy Randy have a, they don't get along. Fraught. I do get along with Cotton Candy Randy, and we've tried a number of forms of working this out. We met with a therapist.
Starting point is 00:25:31 That didn't work. And now it has moved to meeting with an actual legal mediator before it goes to an actual court case maybe. Right. And so we had that mediation event With a real Real life mediator And Things got a little bit wild Again this is
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Starting point is 00:26:22 To all the planners, now you can reserve your Uber ride up to 90 days in advance. See Uber app for details. Before we get into what I learned about my son's musical taste, I would like to share a piece of information that I learned. There is a thrift store in Wales that has asked people to stop donating, quote, used and unused sex toys. A charity-run thrift store, this is from UPI.com, a charity-run thrift store in Wales is asking supporters to stop donating their used and unused sex toys. store in Wales is asking supporters to stop donating their used and unused sex toys. The Barnados, or Barnardo's store, which supports the children's charity, issued a statement asking donors to be careful what they bring to share.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Could those of you who kindly donate please be mindful that we are a children's charity, and as such, we have a range of ages on our wonderful volunteer team. So there's kids receiving the things that are given. We therefore ask that you refrain from donating your used and unused marital aids. Oh, cool. We would like to remind you that the branch has CCTV so that these items can be tracked back to their owners. Thank you!
Starting point is 00:27:44 There's layers to this. Yeah. May I? Before we get into the specifics of what's happening here, I'd like to ask, what's the first time you saw a sex toy? Because apparently this is the answer for a lot of children working in Wales. In person? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Well, first time I saw a sex toy in person was when I was working at a thrift shop. In Wales. In Wales. The first time in person, I mean, honestly, it was probably after I was married when I bought one. When I know when that was because I was there. When we each bought a green worm?
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah. I don't think that's the actual title, but... That's just what we called it. Yeah, that's the first time I saw a sex toy in person. It was me and Rhett in a sex shop buying what we called green worms. The same vibrator. Hey. Two different vibrators.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Right. But also, right around the same time, we bought the same televisionator. Hey. Two different vibrators. Right. But also, right around the same time, we bought the same television. When we first got married, we did research. One guy does research on something, the other guy's like, what TV are you getting? He's like, I did the research, get this TV. Why would I get a different television?
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, you know, what jam box are you getting to play tunes in your bedroom? Right, why would I get a different jam box? It's like he's done all the work. We went to the store and we sort of collectively did research and we selected a small green worm vibrator. And our wives, we were in Charleston, South Carolina. We talked about this on Sex Timber, right? You know, the girls were coming into town to meet us because we were traveling, and we thought it would be a funny... we thought it would be a fun
Starting point is 00:29:28 surprise with a little bit of funny. Yeah, a little shrimp and grits, they say. Just trying something. Yeah, I don't want the word grit involved. It's like the opposite of lube. Yeah, yeah, I'll work on that. Shrimp and lube, maybe. opposite of lube. Yeah, yeah. I'll work on that. Shrimp and lube, maybe. For you.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Not for me. You don't use lube? I don't have what I would call a shrimp. Oh, okay. Well, speaking of that. I don't use that. My goal in buying it, I don't know if I told you this, is I felt like. You kind of look like a dragon tail.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I felt like the green. Like the kid show. I feel like the green... Like the kids show. I feel like the rules for the first vibrator you ever buy for you and your wife is, A, it should be smaller than your own penis. B, it should not be the same color as your own penis. No. Because, I mean, hey, let's mix things up a little bit. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Therefore, green. It could have been an alien's dick for all we know. I'm talking neon green. Yeah, yeah, it was so bright. I mean... It may have been an alien's dick for all we know. I'm talking neon green. Yeah, yeah, it was so bright. I mean... It may have been glow-in-the-dark. I don't know if I ever tested that. I like the lights on.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I think I did, yeah, and it wasn't. Hey, that buddy lasted a long time. I don't know where it is. I guess it's at a thrift store somewhere. In Wales. Because I don't have it anymore. And I definitely donated it. Plopped on a shelf in Wales.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Listen, no, here's the thing. I think that this is, I think this thrift shop has great intentions. I think they're seeing this all wrong. I thought that they were going to focus on the immediate, like the obvious issue, which is like a sanitary one. Hygiene. If something's been inside your body, it doesn't need to potentially go inside somebody else's body.
Starting point is 00:31:07 However, I think we can all agree that you might buy utensils from a... Thrift shop. Thrift shop, and those have been in people's bodies. Right. You might buy a mug. How many mugs? Those mugs have been inside people's bodies. Yes, it's the other end, but it's inside their body, their mouth. This mug goes into my mouth.
Starting point is 00:31:29 No, just the rim of it. That's the part that goes in your mouth if you drink out of it. That's true. What about a rectal thermometer? Well, now we're back to the other end. Would you buy a rectal thermometer at a thrift shop? Is it because we are worried about like STDs or something? I mean, these things can be washed very, very well. They can be completely sanitized.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah, but you don't want the volunteer children to be doing that. So again, that's what I thought they were going to be talking about was the sanitation, but they're talking about the fact that the kids are receiving these, and then it probably creates difficult conversations. Don't say the kids are receiving these, by the way. Okay, the kids are seeing them and potentially handling them. Preparing. But I just think there's so many other ways to describe sex toys
Starting point is 00:32:17 in ways that could be fun, you know? Like, you don't have to think of it as, think of all the things you could have done with that green worm. Okay. You got a thing that buzzes that hard, multiple speeds, looks like a dragon tail? It could be a coffee frother. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. It could be an itchy ear fixer.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Well, one of the... I'm not done. Okay. It could be... I guess I was done. One of the most famous vibrators of all time is that Hitachi. You know the Hitachi. It's big.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Who's clearing their throat over there? It's like we said Hitachi and Jamie said I actually know the CEO of that company Oh really? Yeah So if you guys ever need any Well I've been through a few The first one we ever got
Starting point is 00:33:18 Was we had to plug that sucker in the wall You can hang it off the back of a boat And just right across the lake When you've got to plug a vibrator in the wall. You can hang it off the back of a boat and just right across the lake. When you've got to plug a vibrator into the wall, I mean, that is a serious thing. Yeah, you got to get your extension cord game going. And I will say, by the time we had upgraded to the Hitachi... What a weird flex, by the way.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I know the CEO of Hitachi vibrators. You know the CEO of all of Hitachi? No, it's because Hitachi vibrators You know the CEO Of all of Hitachi Not Because Hitachi Had sold it to Vibrotex Old Sky
Starting point is 00:33:51 Okay Old Sky You know about The dealings Of these companies Yeah Part of the business We'll talk later
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yes Jamie comes from You know Oh she worked On a sex podcast For years Yeah I went to a lot Of like shows
Starting point is 00:34:04 Okay yeah yeah Which I don't know It wasn't the top of your resume But you buried the lead Was it not the top of my resume? I didn't actually look at you I know That's why Kiko hired me
Starting point is 00:34:15 It probably was the top of your resume Well by the time I got the one That plugged into the wall I had definitely Kiko hired you? Kiko was like Oh they'll love this I just I don't know Well we're talking It's just like But yeah but Kiko hired you? Kiko's like, oh, they'll love this.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I just, I don't know. Well, we're talking. It's just like... Yeah, but what ends up happening typically is the conversation stops, and then I begin to talk again, and then you begin to talk in the middle of me beginning to talk. It's cool if you still got something to say, but it would be nice to just let me finish what I'm going to say and then get back to it in a gap.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Well, I have something to say that is what we were just talking about. Right, but usually the time to say that is in the gap between what other people are saying. Most people are listening to what other people are saying and then there's a gap and they're like, oh, that's where I get in. I get in in the gap. Weird flex, that's all I'm saying. I'm in in the gap. Weird flex. That's all I'm saying. I'm sorry. I'll keep trying, but we need to meet in the middle. Yeah, meet in the middle of the gap between the things that I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Then you move on. Here's the thing I'm saying. Here's the thing I'm saying. And then there's a gap, and that's where you get in. And then I do the same to you. It's a beautiful arrangement. It's called conversation. It works great on a podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:25 By the time we had upgraded to something that you plug in the wall, I had fully embraced a vibrator that was significantly larger than my own penis. That was all I was trying to say. And by getting at this point, now the third time trying to say it, it doesn't land quite as well. Listen, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I know it rubs you the wrong way. I'll try harder. You think I'm sorry. I know it rubs you the wrong way. I'll try harder. You think I should enjoy it? Is that what you're saying? I should learn to like it? No, I get it. I'm not doing it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Are we done with this story? Or is there more to explore here? Yeah, I've totally broken spirit. Damn. I'm just saying I think that was it I don't think there's anything else to explore here I'm open to anything that you want to explore Oh, that's what you're doing
Starting point is 00:36:12 Let me think about it It would probably help if you started talking about the next thing Yeah, right That's what it really does That gives me a sense of urgency It seems to really turn you on Oh, we're done Shit, I have one more thing Right, yep Yep That gives me a sense of urgency. It seems to really turn you on. Oh, we're done.
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Starting point is 00:37:18 Terms apply, see app for details. It's time for Tim's. Okay, so back to music. I wanted to talk about something that I have, and it's good that you talked to Shepard individually. Because, you know, Shepard's got great musical taste. Even as a young kid, I very quickly picked up on the fact that he wasn't really interested in musical trends. He wasn't really interested in what his peers liked.
Starting point is 00:37:57 When I found out that he liked bread, you know, and he's like in middle school, I'm like, okay, yes. And I think I told you about the playlist that he had called Cool Songs, which he started when he was like nine and added to it, and it became like a soundtrack for our home in a lot of ways because he's a great DJ. He just knows good songs. Like, you introduce him to a genre, and he immediately gravitates towards the good choices in that genre.
Starting point is 00:38:33 So, like, when I introduced him to old country, he gravitated towards Glen Campbell. Right. You know what I'm saying? Which is strangely specific. Right. But pretty awesome. But kind of signals that you really, like, Glen Campbell is kind of operating on another level.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And I wasn't, like, offended that he didn't, like, really, you know, latch on to Merle. He has a number of Merle songs in his cool songs list. But I appreciated that he wasn't just, oh, I just like these songs because my dad likes them. He's like, I have actually examined this genre and come to this specific conclusion that Glen Campbell is special. Well, it's the thing that doesn't happen as readily now, I don't feel like,
Starting point is 00:39:18 that with popular music, you just kind of get on the bandwagon and listening to what you're – well, there's all this music in our house, but, like, growing up, the music that we listened to was – it was a lot less of it, and, of course, the accessibility was much more limited. But we found ourselves going back. Like, we liked our parents' music. I mean, with your parents, it, like, went all the way back to, like, Frankie Valli. Like, doo-wop type stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Like, 10 years older than your parents. But you had an appreciation for that and, like, the Beach Boys and Elvis. and like the Beach Boys and Elvis. But then you would also have an appreciation for Billy Joel, which was still preceded us, the stuff that we liked the most. But the thing that we did not do that Shepard is doing now, which is, first of all, I'm happy that this is happening because the idea that my kid' musical taste is too overly influenced by my taste
Starting point is 00:40:32 is not an appealing thing to me. I would be a little bit hurt, to be honest, if they didn't like any of the stuff that I liked. But if my kids' musical taste is in complete alignment with me, then the whole individuation process hasn't happened, right? And so I've kind of been expecting there to be some sort of, you know, a taste of rebellion to actively – I think it's important for teenagers to
Starting point is 00:41:05 actively like things that their parents actively dislike. I just feel like that's a really important... Individuation. Developmental thing. You know what I mean? And music is a safer place to do that. We actually talked about this some on Car Biscuits, which if you don't know, on the Mythical Society, we drive in the car and we have like a mini version of this type of conversation.
Starting point is 00:41:30 But it's like much less structured and I never interrupt you. That's right. It's beautiful over there. What was my point? Yeah, this concept of like controlled, like a safe area for not only individuation, but, like, simulated rebellion.
Starting point is 00:41:52 You know, like, we listened to gangster concepts that we never latched on to. But we were like, it was like, oh, this is this is this. We shouldn't be listening to this. And it's actually I was listening to this. There was an unhealthy part of it. A psychologist talk about this concept. And I think he said. It is perfectly and this will make you feel good parents uh it is perfectly normal from the ages of 13 to 24 i think he said for your children to think you're an idiot
Starting point is 00:42:39 you know to to just think that you're an idiot and And it's – he was – I'm paraphrasing and probably getting some of this wrong. But the idea seemed to be that historically this was a time for children to sort of learn, like, who you can trust and also to forcibly kind of be pushed out to go and start their own thing. You know, we're talking like hunter-gatherer days. Okay. Because these communities could only get so big, you know, like 150 or so, and they needed to start a new one. Like my cave dad is a dumbass. And basically it's like you go through puberty,
Starting point is 00:43:19 and one of the things that ends up happening is you hate your parents. Now, I'm not saying my kids hate me. I'm just saying that like... You're club working stupid, dad. There's this idea of like, I'm not going to like everything that they say. I'm not going to like everything they do. I'm not going to like everything they like. The pelts you like are stupid.
Starting point is 00:43:38 But then when you get back to age of 24 approximately is when you kind of are like, oh, my parents were actually, they actually knew what they were talking about. I appreciate them. So if you're waiting for your kid. I need to move back in with them. Yeah, right. So if you're waiting for your kid to express appreciation,
Starting point is 00:43:57 apparently it doesn't happen until on average about 24. But back to Shepard. So he's got a group of friends and they play music together and like a band or they listen to music?
Starting point is 00:44:12 they like a band and so and he plays keyboards? he plays guitar so he so Shepard plays piano violin
Starting point is 00:44:20 and guitar oh but in this band he plays guitar okay and they're not really a band they don't have a show yet they don't have any original songs or anything like that He can play piano, violin, and guitar. Oh. But in this band, he plays guitar. Okay. And they're not really a band. They don't have a show yet.
Starting point is 00:44:29 They don't have any original songs or anything like that. They're just like guys that get together when they can all get together in a garage and play music. I'm sure it's great. But the thing that they really do is they talk about music and they connect over music and there's this sort of method and philosophy that is sort of unspoken because to speak about it is inherently uncool. So I started hearing Shepard talk about his musical taste and some of the stuff that they were into. And so I was like, shepherd, you've got to talk to me through this. You've got to talk me through the way that you guys approach this because a, it's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And B, I want to talk about it on my podcast. And so, and, and he was like, well, you can't talk about specifics because that kind of ruins the whole thing, which is exactly the point I'm about to explore.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And that is they have this thing where this group of friends will, quote, put you on to a band. Yeah. Right? Yeah. That's the term that they use. Yeah. I'm going to put you on to this band.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And there is essentially like clout in finding a band that nobody else in the group knows about that everyone else in the group likes. That's the Venn diagram. Yeah. That's when you have succeeded. Totally. So you can't put somebody on to a band that everyone knows about. You can't put someone on to a band that is super popular. And so I was like, so how many, like, just to put things in terms of Spotify monthly listeners. And so he starts showing me some of these bands,
Starting point is 00:46:10 and we're talking like 3,200 monthly listeners. I mean, these are small, these are small bands. And some of them are like people making music. I was like, when did this album come out? He's like, 2006. It's like, it's not... Really? Yeah, and it's... And so I'm like, what are these... And it's all kind of like, I would say broadly emo. Ooh, that didn't work.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Well, when I say emo... It didn't succeed. But like, emo goes into like metal, but it also goes into more like clean guitar, but like screamo is kind of a form of emo. You know, it's like, these are very emotional.
Starting point is 00:46:54 It's all very emotional, so like, this guy's screaming at the top of his lungs, but what he's saying is like, really like, you know, it's emotional. You know, I burnt my hand on my tea kettle. It's more just about like, I mean, he showed me, again, I'm not going to, I can't point it out.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I can't put it on blast. I can't ruin it. I mean, this is hair biscuits. I mean. You can't say, you can't. I can say some genres. You can't direct people to an artist because then it will get more streams. I can't ruin it. It has to be small but good.
Starting point is 00:47:30 But you've listened to it. I got into playing. And in your opinion. Oh, I hate it. It's bad. Oh yeah, I hate it. I actively hate it. But I loved that I hated it.
Starting point is 00:47:41 You know what I'm saying? I was like, there he is. He's actively listening to something that is objectively bad. But I loved that I hated it. You know what I'm saying? I was like, there he is. He's actively listening to something that is objectively bad. But let me ask, okay. This makes me feel like a good dad. Was it amateur or was it just a genre that you did not like? Because you also have the capability of saying.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I can appreciate things. There's skill here in execution. Great question. But it's not for me. So does it suck, or is it just not for you? Well, first of all, most bands that have been playing for a while that are still kind of hovering around 10,000 or less monthly listeners, like, there's a reason for it. It doesn't have a mass appeal, right?
Starting point is 00:48:22 And a lot of times that does mean, yes, it's not that great from a technical standpoint. He plays some stuff and I'm like, there's a lot of, in fact, I find myself dadding real hard a lot of times, but he plays this thing and I found myself, I think I told you this on Car Biscuits. He plays it and I was like, you can hear the imperfections in this. You can hear all the mistakes in this, right? Just making sure, as a musician, you can hear all the mistakes. Like the timing mistakes and the missed notes. He's like, yeah, Dad, that's part of it. So they're not playing to a metronome, a lot of these bands. In fact...
Starting point is 00:49:00 It sounds like you're describing a demo. Well, yes. It all sounds very demo. And just a few genres to throw out there. Of course, screamo, but scrams? Mm-hmm, mm-mm, I don't know. I mean, as a DJ, you need to be ready for this. Crust? Crust? What is...
Starting point is 00:49:18 I don't even know. I mean, do you have a description for these? He's 15. He couldn't really give me one. Oh, you're not reading a list here. This is what he told you. Scrams and Crust are the things I remember. And he would play some things, and it was like, it all sounds pretty similar to me. Some moves a little bit more heavy metal, like, oh, this is metal. There's a double kick happening here. There might be some scramming! And then you kind of move into this thing where it's,
Starting point is 00:49:47 Somebody's a little bit more like this! And it's like clean guitar and stuff. Oh, I stubbed my toe! What? Did you just say English? Yeah, I said the same thing that you said about stubbing the toe. Oh, I stubbed my toe! Oh, I stubbed my toe. Oh, I stubbed my toe. I said I burnt my hand.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Oh, I burnt my hand. Yeah, they both. On a tea kettle. On a tea kettle. So. Because I would think that they're like British. I'm not doing it justice. I'm not. He's a British kid.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Some of them are. A lot of them aren't. And the thing is, is that. So I was like, okay. And the thing is, is that, so I was like, okay, well, I know that there is a band that is like a pretty like hardcore metal band that are mythical beasts. And I don't want to put them on blast. So I just know that there's a hardcore metal band that are mythical beasts. When you say put them on blast, what do you mean by that? Because I don't think you're using that right
Starting point is 00:50:47 I probably am, I'm probably not I don't want to put you guys onto them I don't want to call them out That is not what putting something on blast means I don't want to call them out I don't want to draw attention to it Okay What does put on blast mean?
Starting point is 00:50:58 I think that means that you're calling somebody out in a negative way Okay Right? Yes Well, technically by calling somebody out in a negative way. Okay. Right? Yes. Well, technically, by calling them out, it would be potentially negative for them. I don't want these two dads to be like, this band likes us.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Yeah. Because I don't... Go over there and tell them how much they suck. Because they have an image to maintain. They can't be outed. I love the fact that without saying who it is, now there's probably a whole bevy of these bands who think we're talking about them.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I hope so. Well, that's encouraging. That's better. So I knew, and these dudes are like super hardcore and dress up in these ridiculous outfits. Now, don't use judgy terminology. I mean, they just look. They look.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Try again. They look evil. They dress up in what? Interesting outfits. Good. They look evil on purpose. Mm-hmm. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:55 So I was like, I'm going to play these guys for Shepard. Oh. And so I played it. And now these guys have You know Success They are successful Okay This is what they do for a living
Starting point is 00:52:09 They're still doing it They have I don't know Hundreds of thousands Of monthly listeners Whatever I don't know who you're talking about By the way
Starting point is 00:52:15 But go ahead And He I play it And he's like He's kind of like Listening or whatever He's like
Starting point is 00:52:24 The wheels are turning He can't like it He's like It he's kind of like listening or whatever. He's like. The wheels are turning. He can't like it. He's like, it's a little too clean. A little too clean. And what he meant by that was they were too technically good. Too talented. Which is a whole different, which opened up a whole different avenue of conversation because I was like.
Starting point is 00:52:40 It sounds like punk, though, what he's describing. You know, it's like. It is. It's like, it's more about. I would say it's broadly punk. It's more about the energy and the ethos than the execution. It's the ante of it. Because I was like, oh, you know, I was with some friends recently.
Starting point is 00:52:54 When we were with our buddies in Colorado and we started listening, we listened to so much music that weekend, but we went on like a little stint listening to like very technical metal, which has never been something that we're into. Right. But when they kind of explained it to us that ultimately metal is just nerds playing music. To be specific, it is musical nerds
Starting point is 00:53:18 who are really, really technical playing really, really technical music. Time signature changes and all kinds of things that are just technically hard to do and hard to memorize and hard to keep up with yeah and he like he we kind of connected on that level but that's like the not cool form of the thing that he's into right now which is the like you got to find the thing that nobody knows about that your group of friends will like. And then you got to make sure that it doesn't really get outside of your group of friends because then it's not cool anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah. Yeah. And. Yeah, you don't want your favorite band to get successful. That whole principle. Right. So it's not necessarily a new phenomenon, but the thing that's new for me is that he's actively into something that I actively dislike.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And like I said, I'm into that. Yeah, I never had that with my kids, with like Lily. I mean, Lando is at a point where people are asking what kind of music you're into and he's you know he's 13 but he's like he's he's into a lot of things but music is not like in the in the top 10 of his list of things that he's passionate about so he doesn't have a quick answer for like i'm into this type of music and then he's like he's started to feel bad about it i'm like oh you know maybe i can you i was like but dude you do you do like a lot of music you know a lot of music like all the music that we play in the house
Starting point is 00:54:57 from all types of genres now they're all my genres right so it like, it's kind of what you were saying, that he has this foundation of knowledge, but then he hasn't really turned the corner. And I told him I didn't really turn the corner in terms of like what I really liked until, you know, around his age or- And also you went through a phase of not liking music. Right. That's a really important part of the history
Starting point is 00:55:26 of Elk Hound's Jungle Baby. Like music. Like, when you can be, I think when you, for your DJ thing, if you want to, like there could be a moment during a set where there's like a little biography. You could get Jenna to do it. Jenna reads it in her storytelling voice.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, little biography. You can get Jenna to do it. Jenna reads it in her storytelling voice. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, once upon a time, Elkhound Snuggle Baby didn't even like music. It's a great story. Oh, yeah, like a little immersive. Because his stepsister did. Biopic moment. And then you can take some liberties with the history.
Starting point is 00:56:06 It depends on how badass you want to seem and then he you don't want to say you killed your stepsister you don't want to say anything like that because that's not you're not trying to go for that image but you took her music from her right and now she doesn't like music and you do i i don't we got to work on the specifics of the story but but I'm just saying it's an option. Well, I mean, my mom divorced her dad. Yeah, that's the part we don't want. I don't want to bring those vibes up. And I took music with me. Okay, well, now you're talking.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Like, we split things up. I got the music. And DJ Elkhound Snuggle Baby got the music. Right. He does not talk to her anymore because she doesn't have the music. I took the music. Yeah. There it is.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I mean, Lily, the thing that I love is when my kids ask me for, to turn them on to something. Like, Lily started listening to Tribe Called Quest. And then she comes home from school and she's like, I've just been really loving Tribe Called Quest. And I played some Beastie Boys for her. And she liked that. And we're taking her back to the airport.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And I'm like, playing a little bit more. And she's like, make me a playlist. And I'm like, yes, yes. So I got to make her like a 90s rap, early 90s, which ended up being like a 90s East Coast. Like I stayed in this like Tribe Called Quest perimeter. And, you know, you start to get into some like diggable planets, if you remember them, and like some other bands like that.
Starting point is 00:57:44 So I made her a playlist and then two weeks later lincoln sends me a text and he's like a friend of mine invited me to to go to the freddie gibbs show down here around campus and freddie gibbs is like this one of my favorite rappers um who i i found just in the past couple of years, but he has a number of amazing albums. I was like, and he knew that I was really into Freddie Gibbs, but he's not into that type of rap really. And so I was like, first of all, I was like,
Starting point is 00:58:18 maybe I need to come down there and go to this show with you. But I didn't say that. I was like, I'll let you do your own thing. But I made this playlist and he listened to it. and then when we went down and visited him he was like i went to the show last night you could have come down here a day earlier you could have gone with me i was like well i kind of felt like it needed to be we needed to be your thing you don't want your dad there in this like small club where like everybody can see everybody and I'm sitting there on the front row. But I gave him a primer on Freddie Gibbs to get him ready for the show.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And he was like talking about which songs he liked. He's like, you know, I actually knew some of these. And then he like had a great time at the show. He told me all about it, showed me the videos that he took. And then the next day we're walking around town and Lincoln goes, I just, I wasn't, he was walking with Christy and Lando and I heard it he turned around and he said Freddie Gibbs and then I turned around and there
Starting point is 00:59:14 he was walking down the street and I like I went right up to him and gave him some dap I gave him some dap but you didn't get a picture I regret that I did not. I feel like I could have got a lot of clout from a selfie with Freddie Gibbs. Yeah. So I'm kicking myself. Yeah, because I really would have liked that. But I don't want to glamorize dealing the powder. That's a factor. I don't want to endorse any of the cocaine game.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Is that what he raps about? Yeah. So I got it. I got it. Bashy, he raps about that? Yeah, you seem surprised. It's hip hop. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Okay. Get with the program. Okay. Don't make me put you on blast. It's hard to rhyme with fentanyl. Yeah. It's hard to rhyme with fentanyl. Yeah, see?
Starting point is 01:00:14 So he probably doesn't include that. But, you know, maybe he's just playing a character. I don't know this guy's personal life. I just really like his style. Yeah. Well, and I think that... I like his vocal style. I'm a huge fan. If you have to choose... Next time I'll do it, I'll get a selfie. If you have to choose one thing, connecting with your kids over something
Starting point is 01:00:40 is definitely... I'm glad I have that. Like, if you have to choose one, you want that. You don't want the thing where you're disconnected. Right. It's just, I was, I was kind of waiting
Starting point is 01:00:52 because I was like, you know, it was like, it was something we had. Like, you've got the things where like, oh, my parents' music means a lot to me.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I still like all, Merle Haggard's my favorite artist of all time and it's only because of my dad. Right. And the Lionel Richie obsession for me started with my mom and and i think that like that's a beautiful thing but then yeah we had those things that like you know at our house we're constantly playing music gotta have your own stuff right And there is the music that we all agree on, and it spans a lot of genres. We play a lot of music.
Starting point is 01:01:28 But then when Shepard starts playing his music in this little bubble now that he's found. Yeah. It's like, turn that off. Like, I like having the, I don't want to listen to that. Yeah. Dad moment. Because I feel like it's just this formative thing. You want to have the music that you're all listening to.
Starting point is 01:01:45 But if, like, we had to play... We were in a 311. And if I had been playing... If you're playing 311 in your room too loud, you need your dad to tell you to turn it off. Yeah. You need that moment. Yeah, you got to fight for your right to party, man.
Starting point is 01:01:59 My mom threw away my best porno mag. Yep. Yep, right. See? There has to be some opposition. Porn, you know, they'll probably find that on their own as well, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I'm just quoting the Beastie Boys. That's all I'm doing. You've got to fight for your right to party. You can't show up at the party and your dad's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lincoln likes a different up at the party and your dad's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:02:26 Right. Lincoln likes a different form of hip hop than I do. Lily loves David Bowie. I like the idea of David Bowie, but I'm not a fan of, I'm not a fan of his music. Once you sit down and listen to him, it can be hard to fully commit. It's not for me.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Right, he's not for me, yeah. I have something. I'm kind of bred at heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have something, just a quick thing to land us here. Okay. I know you don't like it when I ask you numbers questions, but I'm not going to talk about how long you think a quickie is. Nothing sexual at all.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Okay. I mean, we could probably find a way to make this sexual, as we always do. But. We're human. What do you think? I want you to understand and want you to know that the world record for stacking watermelons on top of each other was recently set. How many do you think it was? Well, first of all, how do you... We're talking nose to tail, or are we talking side to side? Horizontal
Starting point is 01:03:32 or vertical? A single stack of watermelons on top of each other. Well, yeah, but are the watermelons oriented vertically? Yeah, well, how else would you stack watermelons? Because that's where the vine comes off and creates a little bit of a base. And if you get enough of them that are like flat in that part of ice,
Starting point is 01:03:48 imagine, you know, you can't stack them like this because they're going to just roll off. It's just two convex surfaces on top of each other. Well, a lot of them grow in a patch and there's a flatter side. And I'm not talking about those square, you know how you can force a watermelon to grow as a cube? Yeah. I'm talking about free-grown watermelons.
Starting point is 01:04:11 And then I guess they have to be of a certain size to count. Like, are they like little pumpkin size? They're this big. Oh, crap. They're like full, big ones. One, two. I mean, three seems like it would be really tough.
Starting point is 01:04:29 But if you have your pick of the litter, and this is a world record. World record. 17, which sounds crazy to me. It sounds crazy. It sounds crazy. You were actually much closer when you said three. It's four. It's four. Really? Four?
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yes. Well, the door is wide open, y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the reason it's four is there's a guy in Iran, I'm gonna try to say it, Rahala Dashmanzari. Okay. And he has stacked melons. Four?
Starting point is 01:05:12 He has stacked melons his entire life. Like, he's just kind of like, yeah, I stack melons. But he's never gotten past four? Well, the Guinness requirements for melon stacking, they won't even begin to consider it until you get to four. If you want to stack melons for a world record, you got to get to four before they even pick up the phone. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:33 And so he just got to four and they gave him the world record. Because three is not a stack. Three is a what? Well, three is a stack, but it's- A grouping? It's not a- A vertical grouping? If you make three, first of all, I think the level of difficulty between three and four... Must be.
Starting point is 01:05:47 ...is... Like, these people, this is what they do. They get paid to record world records. They're like, stacking, it gotta be four. It gotta be... Melons, four. But, you know, it'll be 17 within a couple of years now. 17 is...
Starting point is 01:06:01 Now that we put them on blast? 17. Yeah, see? It makes sense to say it the way that I was saying it. We're blasting it out like through a megaphone. I understand. But I don't know. It just feels like I don't want to...
Starting point is 01:06:14 This man's a melon stacker. He's a melon stacker. I don't want to take that from him. But I'm just letting you know, if you're a melon stacker, the record's four. It's there for the taking. It feels like somebody could get to five. We wouldn't do it. We're not that type of people, but if you want to swoop in and
Starting point is 01:06:27 steal his record, I'm thinking you're going to have to go more than five. I think you're going to have to go for at least 12. Well, if you go to five and make a phone call, you'll get into papers. Into papers. You might get on Bananus. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Keep pushing it. We'll definitely put that on Bananus. If you stack five melons, even if the Guinness people won't call you back, Bananus will put you on the front peel. You want Bananus to be an alternative world record certification? I'm open to anything. We can undercut Guinness. I think it's whatever the most interesting thing is of the day is on Bananus. And if somebody stacks five melons, that might be it.
Starting point is 01:07:06 The world record for banana stacking. Sorry. All right. You got a rec for us? I do. This is another hot sauce rec. This is a hot sauce that you've all had, but I recently got some more of it. I have a lot of hot sauces at my house.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I recently got some more of it. I have a lot of hot sauces at my house. I have determined that if you're going for the Louisiana-style hot sauce... Put on fried chicken? That goes well on fried chicken, the best one is Crystal. Crystal. And that's accessible. Not with a K, though. Nope, it's not the Little Burgers. It's Crystal. Crystal. And that's accessible. Not with a K, though.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Nope, it's not the Little Burgers. It's Crystal with a C. And if you're in the mood, get extra hot. It's great. Huh. So I've been, as you know. Because I bought the one that has like a, I thought it had a form of a chicken on it.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Some sort of, it said Louisiana hot sauce. And then when I got it home, I was like, this is not it. This is not. Well, and it wasn't crystal. The reason I was figuring out what it should be
Starting point is 01:08:12 is as you know, I've got to make my hot chicken sandwiches for something. Oh. Mm-hmm. And like I usually just kind of use,
Starting point is 01:08:21 like for the hot sauce part, it's kind of an incidental ingredient in my hot chicken sandwiches because I make my own sauce out of the hot oil and cayenne pepper. But hot sauce is a part of it, and usually it's just like, oh, I've got some Texas Pete. And listen, I like Texas Pete, Winston-Salem, North Carolina. But Crystal's the one. But side by side, Crystal's the one. If you like something... Does it say Louisiana hot sauce on it?
Starting point is 01:08:48 Yeah, it does. Okay, all right. It's a specific flavor profile for hot sauce that Louisiana style is Crystal. Louisiana. And the thing that I recommended that, like the South American, more like getting into the habanero, that Marie Sharp's, I still got to have that, but they don't go on the same things. You don't want to put Marie Sharpe's on a hot chicken sandwich because it's got some
Starting point is 01:09:10 other stuff going on that sends it in a different direction. What do you think about the truffle hot sauce truff? I have some. I've really gotten into that. I like it, but I have to be really careful about what I put it on because it's great on something like eggs because eggs are not a dish that is trying to – there's not other things happening flavor-wise that you're trying to complement. Because once you put truffle on something, it becomes a truffle dish. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I went on a truffle kick, and I'm coming out of it now. I found my way out, but i do have two bottles now i have the white bottle and the black bottle which is unusual for me where do you keep it frigid frigid yeah apparently now we're supposed to fridge everything like we i i i got upset a few weeks ago because christy had pulled Lando into this research on where to keep your hot sauces, and then the answer was in the fridge. It upset me.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yeah. It upset me because now we've got a big-ass bottle of Valentina. Lando was searching for weeks for Valentina. That's his sauce. It's a good sauce. It's hard to find. And it's mild. He likes it better than Tapatio.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Tapatio. I do not like Tapatio at all. It's grainy. You like Cholula, though? Cholula, yes. But you like Valentina better.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah. Big-ass bottle. We got the Cholula. We've got the truff. All of it's now taking up all this space in the fridge. I'm knocking over bottles of shit just to try to get to the milk. And I don't
Starting point is 01:10:52 buy it. I don't buy it. Who said this? Who said we had to put it in the fridge? When you put the sauce on it, it's cold. I don't want my sauce to be refrigerator cold either. Do you? No. No, you want it to be room temperature. You don't want cold hot sauce. When the first ingredient in something is vinegar or peppers, I'm not refrigerating it. Don't put it in the fridge. Why do I have to?
Starting point is 01:11:12 I mean, I could put like little creatures in there. I could preserve things in there. It's like formaldehyde. I don't know. You want to search it? You want people to... You know what? Let us know. Hashtag Ear Biscuits. Yeah, let us know if we're crazy. Because I'm feeling like I'm going to go home and put my foot down. And usually when that happens, nothing happens. It's like... Yeah, you got to figure it. Put something else down.
Starting point is 01:11:40 My foot was higher and then it got lower. That's really the only observable difference in me putting my foot down. Put all your feet and all your hands down. Get on all fours and then say something as a dad. So are you with me? Are you with us or are you against us? 1-888-EAR-POD-1. Thanks for hanging out long enough to get that.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And you know what? I understand. I understand it's frustrating. You know what? I'm gonna get better at when you move on to the next thing, I will make a concerted effort. You don't have to not move on. We've been through this before. No, no, I'm saying you don't have to move on if I move on. It's just wait till I stop talking to bring us back. I understand.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I understand. It's the dynamic we talked about before. And I think it's, you know, because we're moving through more things on the show, I think it's coming back to roost. So it's getting reacquainted with it. So I just want to be on record and say, I feel you. I feel you. I feel you.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I understand the frustration. I'm not doing it on purpose, but I will purposely do it less, not purpose. Okay. And if you have any more thoughts about it, you can call me at 1-888-EAR-POD-1. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Hi, my name's Cole. I am from Detroit, Michigan. And I just listened to the episode from this week, The Thoughts on Unruly Kids in Restaurants. And I just want to say that I fully support Link's opinion about the tablets. I mean, granted, I'm 22 and I haven't had kids, so I can't really say anything about it. But I don't know about those tablets. I mean, granted, I'm 22 and I haven't had kids, so I can't really say anything about it, but I don't know about those tablets. You know, as a person that grew up with a lot of technology,
Starting point is 01:13:32 I don't know about those tablets. I think they're stunting some social things. Okay, that's pretty much it. All right. Love you guys. Appreciate you. Have fun. Be safe, I guess.

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