Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Link's Family Hiking Fight | Ear Biscuits Ep. 421

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

It’s MADNESS! In this episode, Rhett & Link talk about their time backstage at Rolling Loud, while Rhett watches NC State win some basketball. Plus, Link’s family trip to Yosemite where he and Chr...isty totally did not have a spat, and Link’s solo snowboarding trip to round out his son’s spring break. Visit mythical.com for new additions to the Minimalist Collection. Don’t put off learning that language - there’s no better time than RIGHT NOW to get started! Get Rosetta Stone’s Lifetime Membership for 50% off! Visit https://rosettastone.com/ear. Start building your credit. Open a Chime Checking account with at least a $200 qualifying direct deposit to get started. Get started at chime.com/ear. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. Your teen requested a ride, but this time, not from you. It's through their Uber Teen account. It's an Uber account that allows your teen to request a ride under your supervision with live trip tracking and highly rated drivers. Add your teen to your Uber account today. Welcome to... Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:31 What is happening to my voice? Okay. Wow. It's not like I wasn't just talking the second before we started. Welcome to... What was it? It wasn't a... I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I think there was something in there. I hope we kept it, though. Something was lodged in my throat that I didn't know was there until I started recording. Two Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm choking, apparently. And I'm Rhett. And this week at the Roundtable of Dem Lighting, we're going to be hearing about what may have caused your voice to sound that way. Ironically, I feel like I've got some reasons for my voice to sound a little crackly, even though it doesn't really, based on
Starting point is 00:01:18 my experiences that I've had since you've been gone. I've been gone for a week, and I've got two trips to show for it. Two totally separate trips. Feels like I've been gone a lifetime. So good to be back. You really took advantage of your spring break. Of my- Your son's spring break. Of my son's spring break. Half the time without him, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So yeah, I went to Yosemite with Christy and Lando. And then when we got back, I went on a solo boarding trip. Solo snowboarding trip to Utah. I'm interested to hear how solo travel went for you. You made it back. I'll tell you all about it. I did make it back. I'm a bit tired.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I'm a bit spent. I also went to a wedding last night. I went to GMM segment producer Katrina's wedding. I know you couldn't make it, so I represented the bosses at this wedding. At the Houdini estate, you know? The place where, there's this place in the hills of, we've been there before, the hills of Hollywood. It's owned by Houdini's estate, once owned by Houdini the man,
Starting point is 00:02:37 before he got punched in the belly enough that he died of appendicitis. Something like that, yeah. Something like that. It's quite a place. It's a cool, there's grounds, and it's like multiple levels. You've got to walk up a lot of steps, and there's different terraces, and then there's this house, and then if you walk around the right way, you can see this old pool, and there's pictures in the bathroom of Houdini himself diving into the pool.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And then the way that Houdini dives into a pool is very Houdini-esque, at least according to this one picture. He disappears in the middle? Well, he's handcuffed. No, he wasn't. His hands are just down by his side. And he's like. Bullet.
Starting point is 00:03:19 What kind of dive is that called? The bullet. When you dive in head first, like literally head first, your hands are like down by your thighs. I love it. The I love it dive? The bullet is what I'm calling it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I'm sure there is a name for it. But of course that's how Houdini would dive into his pool. You don't know if he put his hands out at the last second. I think he probably knew that it would be a great picture. Or is he literally about to break water? He seemed like he was about to break water. I don't know. I put his hands out at the last second. I think he probably knew that it would be a great picture. Or is he literally about to break water? He seemed like he was about to break water. I don't know. I mean, it can be done.
Starting point is 00:03:50 You have to be a little tough. And Houdini was tough, if anything. There was also apparently a tunnel that went from his estate under the road. Oh, really? To the other side of the road. Oh, yeah. To his mistress's house. And it's since been sealed, is what we were told.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And I don't know if, last time I went to the Houdini estate, we tried to walk around. Yeah. And there's only so many places you can go. Did you get further this time? No, I got even less far this time. But I did, I drank more than I intended. And I'm not hungover right now, even though this is the morning after.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But I did wake up at, I think I went to bed at 9.45 or 10 o'clock. We didn't stay till the wedding was over. I mean, I have a podcast to do. I got to bring my best for my work. How many drinks did you have? I gotta bring my best for my work. How many drinks did you have? Well, I had a shot because I was getting a drink. Well, when you first walk in, they have a drink. So, and this was before the ceremony, so I had a drink.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Then we had the ceremony, then we go upstairs and they're handing you another drink on the way up the stairs. So I had another drink. But those didn't count, I didn't think. This is already more than Link needs. More than Link needs. More than Link wants, really. I just didn't think, well, you know, I'm going upstairs and they're handing me a drink.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Yeah, it doesn't count. It didn't seem like it counted. And then after we go, we're waiting for the dinner and then Christy's like, you know what? I think I will have a drink if you want to get me one. I was like, well, okay. So I go out to the bar to get a drink and then Nicole's husband's out there talking about taking shots. What the hell? I got wrangled into that. The thing they poured was not a shot. It was like... It was bigger.
Starting point is 00:05:45 It was bigger. Okay, three and a half. But you know, it was a group of mythical people, and I just felt like I need to be part of it. You can't be the guy that doesn't take a shot. So that didn't count. Unless you're like sober. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And I'm not, apparently. And then Christy was like, where are you? And I was like, well, I was out here taking a shot, and so she came out to me and found her drink, and I drank my drink, which was... Four and a half. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's way too many for Link.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Too many for Link. And then we sat down to dinner, and there's wine. Oh, no. And I really wasn't... I hadn't kept track. Well, the body keeps the score, Link. Yeah, at 45, listen, I've told myself that I don't drink anymore. I don't drink at all because I had this stomach problem. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And like... Hold on, but did that happen? It didn't happen. Okay, maybe you're past that. Maybe, yeah, maybe it's the drinking that cured it. No, I took a break from drinking and then everything kind of healed up. How did you not get hungover? Because typically this would hang you way over.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Well, I don't think I got drunk But then at the table Christy, I mean There was a jar on the table And it turns out that you could write marriage advice in the jar And the person sitting across from us I was sitting at a table with people I didn't know Because I asked Katrina to put me at a table with people I didn't know. Because I asked Katrina to put me at a table with people I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Don't put me at the mythical table because nobody wants to sit with their boss at a party, is what I told her. So she put me at another table. Okay, that's interesting. Which I thought was a favor. She honored your request. Yeah, she did.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So the couple sitting across from us, she said, yeah, I already put some advice in there. We're not married, but I said, I'm not married, but as long as you're happy, stay in it. Oh. And I was like, what? Oh, this is shit advice. Rip that shit up.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And you know what I said? That's shit advice. And I reached in the thing and I pulled it out and I was like, I'm going to have to. That's somebody who hasn't been married. thing And I pulled it out And I was like I'm gonna have to That's somebody who hasn't been married I know Yeah yeah yeah And so
Starting point is 00:08:09 I don't I guess it was maybe because I had had a few drinks Apparently It's because you're Link Yeah and I just I was like This can't go in the jar
Starting point is 00:08:17 Unless I write on the other side of it Something else And I actually think That she didn't take the joke that well Well I'm not joking Oh I wasn't either something else. And I actually think that she didn't take the joke that well. Well, I'm not joking. Oh, I wasn't either. I mean, there's certain reasons to get out of a marriage, but the bar can't be
Starting point is 00:08:42 that low. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we're not gonna turn this into a relationship episode, but just... I'm not going to even expound. I love the fact that you're just as triggered as I was. I'm not even gonna expound on it. But if you don't know why, as long as you're happy, stay in it is shit marriage advice. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:00 You need to just do a little living or research or something. I'm not gonna help you with that. You should just not get married. I'm not gonna help you connect the dots. Right. My advice is just do a little living or research or something. I'm not going to help you with that. You should just not get married. I'm not going to help you connect the dots. Right. My advice is don't get married. And she wasn't. But her partner was there, her, like, boyfriend or something,
Starting point is 00:09:15 and, like, I was like, wow, okay. Good luck. There were llamas at the wedding. Oh. Is that a Houdini thing or is that a Katrina thing? It was a Katrina thing. Katrina's got access to llamas? I'm just finding out.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Well, her dog. Is a llama. No, her dog was there. I can't remember her dog's name right now, but her dog's been around the office. And her dog was in the wedding. Ring bearer. Well, there were two ring bearer boys, but then after that there was the dog. It was just the dog, you know. The dog played the wedding. Ring bearer. Well, there were two ring bearer boys, but then after that, there was the dog. It was just the dog.
Starting point is 00:09:47 You know, the dog played the dog. I know Katrina's dog. The dog came down the aisle. Mia. Mia, yes. Mia came down the aisle, and then... Did what? Well, then, went to somebody.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Oh, just came down the aisle. It wasn't a service dog. It wasn't doing anything. It was just coming down the aisle. It wasn't a service dog. It wasn't doing anything. It was just coming down the aisle. No, Mia's not a service dog, but Mia was also not provided a service. In the context of the wedding, she was not a service dog.
Starting point is 00:10:14 She was the wedding dog. I don't mean an official service dog. Yeah, okay. I love when dogs are at weddings. But where did the llamas come in? Yeah, the llamas came in later. There was a brown and a white lomba. Lomba.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And, oh, I'm still drunk. And they were dressed like a bride and groom, and they were walking around with a bride and groom after the wedding. Yeah, and people took pictures of them. You're making this up. No, man, no. And they were shorn in such a way. They were very cutely sh. You're making this up. No, man, no. And they were shorn
Starting point is 00:10:45 in such a way. They were very cutely shorn, but it was kind of cold. And I think they got cold. So they went away after a while, but people got pictures. I think llamas can take the cold. They're like from Peru or something. No, those are alpacas. Alpacas have curly hair on the ears and llamas have straight hair on their ears. I think they can still take it. Well, they were shorn. That's what I'm telling you. If they weren't shorn, they could have taken it.
Starting point is 00:11:11 But one of them seemed to be shivering. Why am I talking about this? Because I'm not hungover, but at midnight, I woke up in severe pain. Oh, what kind? Head pain. Oh. Like, I went to bed with a little bit of a headache. You didn't take ibuprofen preventatively?
Starting point is 00:11:28 I didn't, and that was dumb. You gotta do that. So I woke up. It's just not a good feeling. I woke up. I took some. I went back to sleep. I woke up good in the morning.
Starting point is 00:11:40 So... Did you... That's the good thing about turning in early. Did you look at your readiness score? No, see how it got impacted because sometimes I'd be really interested to see how your readiness score was impacted by alcohol and what your hrv did I mean because I already have low hrv. Is that what we're doing right now? I have low hrv, but if I drink It goes into the teens
Starting point is 00:12:01 Okay, if you had four and a half drinks, and your HRV is typically pretty high based on what I saw. Okay, it's working. It's updating, so it's... Your readiness is 89, so you're doing great. I'm going by the book. Seems like you've been... This is not a sponsor or a ring.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It gives you this app and it tells you your score. Seems like you've been getting the right amount of sleep lately. Good sleep helps you- So click on the readiness down here. Readiness. It'll take you straight to- I'm doing good, maybe I should drink more.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Dang, your HRV's 85. How are you in such good health? I don't worry about it. I think that's what's bringing you down, bro. Now click on it right here. Listen, I have this app, I never it right here. Rhett, listen. I have this app. I never look at it.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You know, the only time I look at this app that, like, tells me everything that my ring is measuring is when Rhett asked me to pull it up so he can look at it and compare himself to me. I mean, I feel like that's the only reason I have this ring. Well, I did get it first, yeah. Well, Jessie got it for me because she heard about it and she knew I would like it. I have it so that you, I did get it first. Yeah. Well, Jesse got it for me because she's heard about it. She knew I would like it. I have it so that you can know how I'm doing. And I will say, and I will, and what you can do, you can share your vitals. In fact, Christy and I were going to start sharing our vitals with each other because she also cares about it. But then we both decided that wasn't a good idea. I don't look at, I honestly, I don't look at it obsessively,
Starting point is 00:13:22 but one of the things that I've observed, and then I've actually visited the subreddit, the OuraRings subreddit, and people talk about, like, look at the impact that alcohol has on my HRV. And I've noticed it too, like two drinks, it'll send it way down. See, it has no impact on you. So you should be drinking like a fish. I had a headache, and my face feels wrinkly. I feel older today in the face. Well, you aged at like a fish. I had a headache, and my face feels wrinkly. I feel older today in the face. Well, you aged at least a day.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I think I aged more than that. I aged, in fact, I tweeted about this, how much I felt like I aged on a few nights ago. So here's the thing. This release is on April 8th. There's approximately a two to, I would say a 2% chance. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Based on where I stand right now, looking into the future, a 2% chance that today, NC State is playing in the national championship. That we've continued our incredible run. Right now, as I record this, we've just gotten into the Sweet 16. We've won the ACC Championship
Starting point is 00:14:25 After losing like a bunch of games At the end of the season Everyone giving up People thought the coaches were going to get fired And it's this crazy improbable run That's you know Statistically speaking You know
Starting point is 00:14:39 The likelihood is that the run will end Before we get to the end Who knows, though? But you're saying... You've got to believe. If the 2% happens... We are in Phoenix right now. We will rearrange our schedules to be at the Final Four.
Starting point is 00:14:57 If NC State makes it to the Final Four, I mean, that doesn't happen. That hasn't happened in a long time. It might not happen again for a long time. I'm just afraid to watch in between now and again because I think I would be the reason that we would lose. Yeah, we shouldn't even talk about it. Because it's so improbable that we are here already that we're already at, like, miracle status in my mind.
Starting point is 00:15:18 So because we're already at miracle status, it feels like anything is possible. But there's a bunch of really good teams between us and that uh that are teams that are definitively better than us that we will have to somehow beat have you noticed something um that i've noticed in two totally separate instances about march madness and people who don't care about it and aren't really acquainted with it, they call it the madness. I haven't heard this.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I'm glad I haven't. So when they were in the ACC tournament, in the championship, we were talking to our friend Lou, and you were telling about how like oh yeah State's in the ACC tournament and he was like it State can win the ACC tournament tonight and he said oh is that the madness he said that and that was the first time I've ever heard anybody say that now he's not a sports guy yeah he's a music guy so it's like I was like I just kind of like chuckled to myself but you know if not for my upbringing i would be calling it a madness too given my current state of stage in
Starting point is 00:16:31 life of not being a sports person but then um when i'm on my when i'm in park city i was getting a drink at a bar and there was this and there was a game wrapping up and there was this woman and she was like she was happy and they had just won. It was like Colorado had won the game. And I was like did your team win?
Starting point is 00:16:58 And she said yeah and I just thought I would come down here to watch the madness. Well that okay. That feels somewhat more acceptable, but she But she wasn't saying it in a way that you think is more acceptable She was saying it in the way that like I wanted to be a part of the madness. I wanted to watch the madness It like that's what it is Is this the thing now is that what people are good people are calling it the madness? what it is. Is this a thing now? Is that what people are calling it, the madness?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Now, it is definitely possible that they're saying that on the broadcast now, but it's completely gone over my head if they are. Well, I've heard it twice from people who don't know what they're talking about. The madness. The madness. I think it's just the telltale sign. Because I was like, who is your team? She was like,. Because I was like, who is your team? She was like, Colorado.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I was like, who did they beat? And she was like, and she couldn't remember. And it had just happened. Like, the game was still on. Well, it's madness, man. Who knows what's happening? It's impossible to keep up with. So I was like, and then I thought to myself, well, she called it a madness,
Starting point is 00:18:03 and she doesn't remember who they were playing, even though, like, they're walking off the court right now. And then she left. And I was like, well, okay. Well, as you can imagine, as you can imagine, I am fully invested in the madness. And I would be watching casually
Starting point is 00:18:21 if NC State wasn't playing. But let's talk about, we have to talk about that night they played the ACC championship. Yeah, it was hilarious. So again, if you don't care about sports, just try to continue listening just to, out of like an anthropological fascination factor, right? Just pretend I'm from a different culture and I'm telling you about my customs and you're just out of an interest factor.
Starting point is 00:18:52 You're like, this is fascinating. I don't understand why he cares. Right. You know? This is not just a story about sports. Just be culturally sensitive to this straight white dude talking about sports for a moment.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Okay. Okay. Okay? Don't discriminate. Your mom hates it when you leave six half-full glasses on your nightstand. It's a good thing mom lives on the other side of the country.
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Starting point is 00:20:00 to watching NC State sports because I've never been able to shake my interest, even though I can recognize the irrationality in caring about this thing that, at this point, I don't have a lot of impact. However, we got more impact. We got a scholarship at NC State now, Link.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah. The Rhett and Link Engineering Innovation Scholarship or something like that. And athleticism. Can we add athleticism? No, it's about innovation and engineering and the arts and things, but... What does that mean? I don't know. We'll find out, you know? Well, no, it's about innovation and engineering and the arts and things, but... What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:20:27 I don't know. We'll find out, you know? No, no. It's encouraging creativity. Hold on. Don't act like you don't know what it means. We came up with it, and we decided. No, but, like, the specifics of what it means when you award the scholarship, I think it's
Starting point is 00:20:38 like, you know, we'll see who gets it. Right. But there's, like, an intersection in creativity and engineering. Yeah, because that's, you know, we've got engineering degrees. We do something in the arts, if you want to call
Starting point is 00:20:49 what we do in the arts. I believe it is. And so we wanted to, you know, find other people who have this technical or technically or studying something technical,
Starting point is 00:20:59 either want to apply it to something innovative and artistic or they just have artistic interest or whatever. And yeah, we haven't even looked, we haven't even received any applicants because we just announced it.
Starting point is 00:21:09 But, yeah, so anyway. So now we have some. We've got some skin in the game. Yeah. Literally in the game. So State had a really bad end of the season. Great start to the season and then bad end to the regular season. Lost a bunch of games in a row, and it was just literally like people were like,
Starting point is 00:21:27 I think this might be Kevin Keats last year. They're going to buy him out. And, you know, somebody's been a State fan since I went to – I actually wasn't a State fan until I went to school there. I was a Duke fan when I was a kid because we moved from somewhere else and I just picked the team I thought was the best. It was smart. Yeah. when I was a kid because we moved from somewhere else and I just picked the team I thought was the best. It was smart.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah. But this Wolfpack experience is kind of like, it's very familiar, so. Yeah, yeah, we were just used to. And I've been out for too much disappointment and not enough interest in sports, I was out years ago. But the thing is is that State always surprises you, always does something unexpected.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Well, you know, every once in a while beat Carolina, beat Duke in basketball, beat them in football quite regularly. But, okay, whatever. But they weren't sitting pretty going into the tournament. No. And so it was like, in order to get to the madness, you either have to win your – there are certain conferences where you have to win the conference tournament or you have to get an at-large bid. You know, somebody – the committee decides that you're good enough to be in. Everyone knew that NC State was not good enough to be in the tournament. There was talk of just two ACC teams making it to the tournament, Duke and Carolina.
Starting point is 00:22:37 That was even – that was a possibility mere weeks ago. Yes, they would have to win the ACC tournament in order to qualify for the big dance. Yes, they would have to win the ACC tournament in order to qualify for the big dance, but they were in the worst possible position going into the tournament. Yeah, because the way it works now, the ACC is so damn big, like all these other conferences, that if you're a good team, you just sit around for two rounds and don't even play. You wait until the stragglers catch up. Duke it out. until the stragglers catch up. Duke it out. And, you know, so if you start at the bottom of the pack,
Starting point is 00:23:08 which we pretty much did, you got to play five games in five days. And we have like a seven-man, kind of eight-man rotation. This is not something that the human body is equipped to do. And then we beat Louisville barely, and they're horrible. And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's about right. And then I guess we beat Syracuse. I was like, okay, yeah, that's about right. And then I guess we beat Syracuse. I was like, okay. Then Virginia.
Starting point is 00:23:30 All right. Then Duke, what? And then we're in the final game against UNC. Now I- Well, building up to this, earlier that week, like a week in advance, I was like, I was making plans for us for the weekend because, you know, I knew that Posty was playing at Rolling Loud, the huge hip hop festival that's in L.A. It's also Miami and a couple other places.
Starting point is 00:23:57 But and I went last year with Lincoln, you know, and I know. So this this year I was like, well, well, he's headlining one of the nights. You know, it'd be cool to go and hang out with him. Or if we can't, we can hang out the night before because he's going to be in town. And so I was kind of pushing. Well, I was pushing for one of those. And then I was like, can we do this? And you were like, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And then like it started lining up. And at the time I was thinking, well, State's not going to be anywhere close to the finals of the ACC tournament. So I can make plans freely. And you didn't even mention it. No, it wasn't worth mentioning. And then like we, so on, we got an Uber there on Saturday afternoon. And you're like on your phone in the car. I got an Uber there on Saturday afternoon,
Starting point is 00:24:49 and you're like on your phone in the car. I'm like, what's going on? You're like, well, you're watching the game. The game was started. It started while we were driving. Which was the championship game of the ACC tournament against Carolina. And then I felt bad. I was like,
Starting point is 00:25:07 are you sure you want to go back home? Well, I'll be honest with you. I mean, I wasn't going to, but... I just emotionally prepared myself for us to get... Pummeled. Pummeled by them.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Because I was just like, man, we got nothing left in the tank and they're better than we are. And so it'll be good to be at this concert. I was scared to be like, well, I'm not going to go to Rolling Loud so I can watch us lose. It just felt like I'm setting myself up for disappointment. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And, of course, what ends up happening is, like, we're playing great right out of the gate. Like, a pretty healthy lead earlier in the game, and I'm like, shit, we're gonna, we could win. I would probably run out of gas in the second half, though. This is how every State fan thinks, right? There's literally a term for it called NC State shit. That's NC State shit.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Like, just when you think that nothing can go wrong, something does go wrong. Your best player gets hurt, something like that. Now, every college thinks that this applies to them, right? Everyone has this mild view, right? But I really think it's true. It really is. And so we're showing up at the venue,
Starting point is 00:26:19 and we're, like, getting access backstage, and, like, you're on your phone. It's like, by this point, it's like over halftime. Yeah, and so we get backstage and, you know, this is a pretty cool thing that you get to go be backstage with Post Malone as he's headlining a festival. Right. There's not that many people backstage.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And, you know, he's... It was his own tent. It wasn't like it was commingled. Yeah, it was just his crew. And he's always very gracious, and we always catch up and, you know. So what I found myself doing is being like, I can't, I gotta keep watching this game. And so... Because it kept winning. We get down to like, I can't, I got to keep watching this game.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And so. Because they kept winning. We get down to like, there's five minutes left. And at this point, this is when I took my phone to Austin to post. Right. And I was like, my team's about to win the ACC championship, man. I was like, I have to show you this. I don't, it doesn't matter what you're about to do.
Starting point is 00:27:27 You're about to do a concert. He's on a million of those. You know, how many times has this happened to us? It's like something very special is happening to us. I also wanted him to know that, like, I'm not the guy that's on my phone at your get-together. Right. I don't do that. Like, the reason I'm over here in the corner.
Starting point is 00:27:44 You were in the corner on your phone. Looking at my phone and going, ah, like I don't do that. Like the reason I'm over here in the corner. You were in the corner on your phone. Looking at my phone and going, ah, like yelling to myself is because a moment, history is being made in my mind, right? And so of course he was like laughing about it and like very much into it. Cause he's a Cowboys fan. Even though he had no point,
Starting point is 00:28:00 like he doesn't, I don't think he cares about college basketball as much. But he didn't think it was crazy. He understood my... He thought it was funny. I mean, in fact... We were forcing him to make the moment about celebrating for us, which was the joke.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Well, and last year or the year before, when he was at the forum and we went to that show and we were backstage He had had a very specific UFC fight that he wanted to see the results of and so they had recorded it for him until after the show and then as He's walking in to finally watch it like the only thing he was thinking about was this UFC fight as soon as he got off Stage and I'm like, I understand you I understand how you think right? And then somebody his one of his security guys, spoiled it for him as soon as he walked in.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And he was very, as upset as he can get. He doesn't get upset, right? He was still very gracious in how he did it. Yeah, so he understood. He understood. Which I thought made it really funny. And then we win, and he's celebrating with us, right? And then, so we've got our college buddy text thread,
Starting point is 00:29:11 which is the five of us. But then there's three of us who actually care as far as we were concerned, right? And I'm not in that group. So voluntarily, Tim, I don't know if it was was tim or matt started the three of us on a text thread where we are talking about state sports and like texting during the games right uh but ironically the other day after state won the first round in the in the madness um greg was like oh that was a close one and on the five thread we we were like, oh, shit, Greg's paying attention to this.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And then we were like, but that we should. No one of the three of us at that point said, hey, we've got another like serious sports thread, Greg, that you could be a part of. Then the only person who's not a part of it is Link. But so you started commenting in the main chat. The only person who's not a part of it is Link. So you started commenting in the main chat. Even though me and Tim and Matt have been sending pictures back and forth of scotch in hand and stuff. There's like, you know, it's like there's. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Well, when Greg made the, when he posted, then I was like, oh, I guess we won. And then I went and I watched the highlights, which I discovered that's an, you can watch play highlights. YouTube TV. On YouTube TV. And that's like the best way to watch a game.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Highly recommend it. Okay, but to wrap that story up. So yeah, I watched ACC Championship that night at Rolling Loud. And I gotta say, I'm predicting preemptively this is making it into the top 10 moments of the year that we will do at the end of the year
Starting point is 00:30:51 because A being at Rolling Loud was I mean I don't really care about Rolling Loud in general like he was the only person that was performing that I cared about I cared about. Yeah, I cared about it.
Starting point is 00:31:07 You know, which made me, I felt like I drug you there and then you were like, you were having a subpar interstate experience. No, no, no, no. But it was, for me it was the combination of, because the fact is I would have just been at home watching it alone or with Shepard if Shepard happened to be present. Shepard doesn't really care as much
Starting point is 00:31:31 as like Locke does about sports, but if he's home, he'll watch it with me and kind of look at me and laugh. This made a surreal experience. Well, being, first of all, anytime we get to go and watch Austin do his thing and then yeah have the privilege of being able to be like backstage and then like taken to a special spot where you can kind of like Be in the middle of this crazy festival, but kind of be out of the mayhem or whatever and just see him on stage by himself
Starting point is 00:31:58 It's just it's just a real experience. You're just like You just you don't get to write that you just don't get to see that. You just don't get to see that. It's crazy. People don't get to experience what he experiences. And to be in that close proximity to it, it's just kind of a surreal thing. I always enjoy it, you know, from a cultural fascination standpoint,
Starting point is 00:32:15 just like you listening to me talk about sports. So that's always fun. And then as I talked about with the episode with Jesse, talking about my extroversion score being low, your extroversion score presumably being high, Jesse's being very high as well, and taking advantage of Jesse and your extroversion to, again, talking to people,
Starting point is 00:32:38 and then I make a decision if I want to talk to him, and I talk to you. I told the story of you talking to Quavo, which, again, like, when you were talking to him, even though I have to him and I talked to you. I told the story of you talking to Quavo, which again, like when you were talking to him, even though I have met him before, I didn't know who it was. I was like, but I was like, this guy has very expensive teeth.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Right. And very expensive jewelry on. This is someone famous. He has a beanie with- Oh, a very expensive beanie. Like very expensive jewelry- Actual expensive jewelry on the beanie. Yeah. And when I walked up and you were asking,
Starting point is 00:33:12 so what kind of pillow do you use? I was like, yeah, okay. See, I get to check in, and Quavo was looking at you like, man, this guy's crazy. He liked it. Yeah, yeah. And you know what? I'm really concerned for him because he sleeps on his arm like I used to do.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And I told him, when you get to be my age, you're going to have shoulder issues, Quavo, if you keep sleeping on that arm. You need to have a pillow like me. You'll probably figure it out. And that's when Austin came over and was talking to, saying hello to quavo and um because he was a surprise guest he came out during yeah he's a feature post set to like sing congratulations which is awesome right and uh he actually showed up the next night too um
Starting point is 00:34:00 during i think don toliver said so So Quavo was around, but like, he's got to watch that arm. But once they start talking, Yeah, then I'm talking to Post and Quavo about what type of pillows they use. And then so once Post and Quavo are next to each other, and then these other two guys, Red and Link, the videographer or photographer,
Starting point is 00:34:23 they kind of come up, and the first thing they say is, can we get a portrait of you two? Very clearly pointing to Post and Quavo, not these two middle-aged dudes on the side. Right. So we kind of push out to the side, they get some pictures of them.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And then Austin is like, let's bring Rhett and Link in here, because he knew that it's funny to get a picture with Post Malone, Quavo, and Rhett and Link flanking them. Right. I didn't know y'all were all flipping a bird in the picture. Well, I don't know who started it. I just followed suit.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I don't have peripheral vision with my glasses. Yeah, you gave a backwards peace sign. Yeah, yeah. Which typically would have been like tops, but like... But yeah, and I was very excited to see that it did make it onto the internet. And confuse people. Do you think Quavo now thinks that I'm the MyPillow guy?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Like, is that within the realm of possibility? Because I'm concerned about that. He would have to very much not follow the news cycle to think that you're Mike Lindell. Well, I'm not going to say that Quavo doesn't follow the news cycle, but... I think he knows the difference between you're Mike Lindell. Well, I'm not gonna say that Quavo doesn't follow the news cycle, but... I think he knows the difference
Starting point is 00:35:27 between you and Mike Lindell. Now, when I went up to him, I was like, hey, man. He was like, I know who you are. And I was like, yes! I love that. I was like, well, you need to be a rat. I didn't hear that.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Because we talked about the fact that... And then I pulled you over. We had met him in Backstage tonight show tonight show went and like this mythological meeting where? I was like I want to get a picture and so like they called him out of Who at whichever the it was the Migos and so I was like whoever can come out I want to take a picture with him and then so Quavo comes out doesn't say a word can come out i want to take a picture with him and then so quavo comes out doesn't say a word stands in between us and does this like quavo pose they take the picture and then he just like disappears we never had a we never he never said anything we never said he never said anything
Starting point is 00:36:17 and so that's what i that's the first thing and he was laughing when he was like i was like you were like this mysterious ghost figure. But the last thing he said was, I guess next time we see each other, we'll get a picture that can be our thing. So I really hope that that does be our thing. Yeah, I think that's our thing. I got a thing with Slump God, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I got a picture thing with him. Yeah. He takes, Ski Mask the Slump God takes a picture of me every time he sees me with his chain. It's got a name. His Millennium Pendant. It's got a, I saw people talking about it. I know, everybody talks about it.
Starting point is 00:36:53 A certain name, but if you're gonna wear it, you really need to know the name for it. It's a bit heavy to wear for long. So anyway, I'll wrap up. That was fun, dude. And we won the ACC tournament. So, yeah, there's a lot of really incredible things. So, you know, Tim is, like, sending his picture of him with his scotch.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Celebratory scotch. And I, like, take the Bud Light from backstage, you know, backstage and take a picture of it and send it to that thread. But then, of course, we make it into the tournament. We make it to the madness. We win the first round. We win the second round. As we speak, we're going to the Sweet 16.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And I watched both of those games at home with Shepard. And Shepard is like, I get so crazy. I yell so much. I mean, my voice is still a little bit crackly because I just. Does he laugh at you? Yes, he laughs at me. Okay. He literally just laughs at me the whole time.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And the funny thing is. He thinks you're weird, but did you explain to him there's a whole culture of people who do this and they're called fans of sports? He understands that. But he, the funny thing is is that, I watch with my little wolf pack, Sean and Barbara, and every time I go crazy, they just start barking. It's like they're like, daddy is excited about something,
Starting point is 00:38:23 so we're gonna bark. So it's just like every time something exciting happens, the dogs just go nuts. You got your own wolf pack. But I think that... That's cute. I'm yelling so loud, I'm relatively certain that the neighbors...
Starting point is 00:38:34 No. I think so. I think if you're walking on the street in front of my house... You think somebody's going to call the cops on you? I don't know. I don't know if you could tell the difference between somebody, like, being murdered or somebody watching sports.
Starting point is 00:38:51 If you can't, then you have a problem. I think that there's a difference. And I don't get that. I mean, I got mad a couple... I got... A couple of times I got mad. I will... I will admit that I got mad.
Starting point is 00:39:02 It's funny. It's fun. But that's the... It's the fun to get that that emotional involved, I guess. The announcers, man. Like, Tim, our friend Tim, he watches. He won't watch it. He can't watch it.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It's too much. He just listens to the radio broadcast. Really? And then if we win, he goes back and watches the game. But also, he can't take a lot. My dad can't take the national announcers, the stuff that they'll say and the ignorant stuff they'll say. And, you know, I sympathize.
Starting point is 00:39:28 They don't know anything about every team or whatever. And everybody who's – if it's your team playing, you take it very personally if they say something about one of your players, your coach or something. So if you listen to your biased broadcast while watching, but you can't really do that anymore. You could do that back in the day when the feed of the TV- Oh, it's out of sync. And the radio were coming at the same time, but now because everything comes to the internet,
Starting point is 00:39:54 it's too far behind. So your video feed that you're getting isn't as real time as your over the antenna broadcast that we had as kids, which was almost instantaneous. So you can't sync it up with the radio. I guess there's probably people who figured out how to do it, but I have not. Creating a audio delay.
Starting point is 00:40:17 That's also streaming though. Cause you know, it's the, you remember the voice of the Wolfpack, Gary Hahn? Yeah. This is his last year. He said it, this is my last year. Oh. And this historic run is happening, you know. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Good for him. The run has, you know, I'm not speaking anything into existence, but statistically speaking, the run may have come to an end already, but I will enjoy every minute of it. I appreciate the fact that you are inviting me, and I do want to go. Don't fart with your hand when I'm talking. Like, why?
Starting point is 00:40:53 This is becoming a habit. Like, this can't be part of our podcast. Your mic doesn't pick it up, so here I... The microphones don't pick it up. I know, but I hear it. Like, he puts his hands together like he's clasping his hands. It's just checking my pulse.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Making sure I'm still around. And then you just, it makes a fart. Well, it doesn't always make a fart. Most of it just does that. But it's a habit of yours now. Well, you only hear it when I have a fart. Were you doing it on purpose? No.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You did it. I'm testing to see if I can still make one. No, it's a tick. Stop. Stop. Stop. Well, now that you're talking about it, I kind of want to do it. But I'm just telling you, you have a problem.
Starting point is 00:41:33 You're not even knowing you're doing it. You didn't know you were doing it. Yeah. I was talking. Yeah, I didn't know it would make a noise. But you like the feel of you were, but you like this, you like the feel of a fart in your hand. No, no, no, I like the feeling of my hands
Starting point is 00:41:50 coming together in a little air pocket, and it usually just goes, psh. And then one out of 10 times it makes a fart noise, and you just happen to hear those. If I don't stop you now, you're gonna be- You would just think I was just clasping my hands. You're gonna be- You're doing it too. Yeah, I'm imitating you.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah, you watch out. You're gonna be farting too. Listen, dude, you're gonna be in a place where it's not appropriate, and this is one of those places. You're gonna be in other places where it's inappropriate, and you're gonna be doing it. Probably not. I'm pretty good in like mixed company. It's gonna happen. With dignitaries around. I mean, it's not far from being so,
Starting point is 00:42:27 like if you fart so much, like real fart, butt fart, you get to the point where you just like, sometimes you just let it rip in the wrong place in front of the wrong people. I'm pretty fart conscious. I mean, not the most conscious, but kind of conscious. I'm telling you right now that this hand fart is in some ways worse.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Okay. Because it's weird. You know, if I do it again, you can slap me on the back of the head. And this is coming from a weird dude. That's for sure. This should be a wake-up call for you. The weirdest dude in your life is telling you that you're being too weird about something.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Stop it! Stop it! Okay. I won't do it again today. But keep your hands apart. I can't do it if I put the right hand over the left. Just don't. So I'll just make a note to do that. I don't, but even that's weird. Even when it's doing a silent fart.
Starting point is 00:43:21 This isn't weird, I'm just holding hands. But you're, but you're, but you're pumping. But listen to it if I do that. I don't weird. I'm just holding hands. But you're pumping. But listen to it if I do that. I don't... I know it's a little escape of air, but it's like you're pumping your hands together. Let's move on. I want to hear about your trip.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I don't want to move on until you take your hands apart. Like, keep them apart. There you go. Don't put them together. You can't do that anymore. Now I'm gonna tap. Go to mythical.com.
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Starting point is 00:45:12 March is a great time to go to Yosemite, is what the internet says. There's no crowds. Yosemite is, you know, according to many, the crown jewel of the U.S. National Park System. And in terms of, like, glacier-formed rock spectacles, one of the most amazing sights you can see on the planet. I've been there twice, in college, and then when Lily was a baby, when we were in Santa Cruz, and you and Jesse were there, there too so i know you've
Starting point is 00:45:47 been there at least once maybe you went once as a kid and then once is um so it had been a long time since i've been there and uh for lando spring break i was like you know what let's go we thought we're going to do the sprinter van thing but you they're having so much trouble with like regulating crowds that they there's so much reservation system stuff to like, if you want to camp in the park, then you have to reserve. And this has been going on for years. Like it's,
Starting point is 00:46:13 it's either a year in advance or nine months to the day in advance. Like they fill up, they fill up immediately. And then you have, and then if you don't get that, then you got to wait to like the last minute and you're not guaranteed to get a camping spot at this time of year, they are not regulating people coming into the park,
Starting point is 00:46:29 but over the next few months as it goes into summer, in addition to camping reservations, you have to have a reservation just to go into the park because it's so popular and it gets so crowded that it's just popular and it gets so crowded that it's just lines and lines of cars and it kind of compromises the experience. But going in mid-March was presented as a really great option. Everything's not open because there's still snow at the top at like elevation.
Starting point is 00:47:08 So a lot of the trails that would like, I mean, you can't hike Half Dome at this time of year because it's closed. And who would want to? Because of snow. Who would want to put themselves through that? It's kind of a bucket list. I'm starting to feel like it might be a bucket list thing for me. Like I'd like to do it.
Starting point is 00:47:24 How hard is it? I think it's really hard. I mean, for me to feel like it might be a bucket list thing for me. Like I'd like to do it. How hard is it? I think it's really hard. For me, I think it'd be really hard. Well, you're in optimal health based on your aura ring. Well, based on how sore I was after what I did, which wasn't that. It was, and I'll tell you about it. I don't know if I could do half dome, but as a college student, I hiked to the top of Yosemite Falls
Starting point is 00:47:45 And I thought I was gonna die and that was arguably when I was in the best shape of my life That was hard. I mean, it's the it's the tallest Falls in in the US Absolutely beautiful. But anyway when we went There's nobody there. Nobody there. But we didn't rent a camping spot. We rented a spot at the historic hotel that's down in the Yosemite Valley,
Starting point is 00:48:14 the only one that's in the Yosemite Valley, built in 1927, the Awani. You can stay in rooms where presidents have stayed. It's just an iconic spot. We check into our room. It's not fancy because it's so old. So it's fancy in an old kind of way. Kind of like if you go to the Biltmore Estate in North Carolina. When you go there, it's got all this history.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And it's huge. And the architecture is amazing. And there's rugs and stuff everywhere. Oh, it's like got all this history and it's like huge and the architecture is amazing. And like there's rugs and stuff everywhere. And it's. Oh, it's got that vibe. It's that lodge type vibe. Yeah. And they've kept it all in that same type of vibe.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You mean the Grove Park Inn? The Grove Park Inn is where you can stay. I was going to say the Biltmore Estate is like. Yeah. The Grove Park Inn is the place where you can stay. That's what I meant. So it was a cool vibe. And our room, like I looked out the window of our room,
Starting point is 00:49:11 and it's just a framed, it's like a framed photo of Half Dome just staring at you, like right out the window. And the sun set on it, and it was like it was on fire. It was absolutely, it was the best view I've ever had from a hotel window, and it was pretty amazing. Yeah, the fact that that was a cool place to stay. We stayed there for two nights. We're driving into the valley. It's absolutely beautiful.
Starting point is 00:49:42 There's snow on the mountaintops, snow on Half Dome, and the next day we get up and I'm like, you know what? We're going to do the Mist Trail hike. This is what, I pulled up a video the week before, like an eight-minute video. I was like, Lando, this is where we're going, just so you know a little bit about Yosemite. Mist Trail?
Starting point is 00:50:01 And then the Mist Trail takes you up to uh let's see it's not nevada falls but it's the one right before it there's a there's a falls that it takes you to and like the falls like you know kind of makes a mist and there's 600 steps and you're like walking beside the the falls and you can go from the you can go from the bottom up to the top and Lando was like, I want to do that one. I'm like, yes, that's the one I wanted to do. And Christy had already turned in
Starting point is 00:50:34 for the night, so she wasn't a part of these plans. Well, she's part of the plans, but she wasn't a part of the planning. And I'm looking online and I'm like, well, I gotta be ready. There might be some ice on the trail and I'm like, well, I got to be ready. There might be some ice on the trail. And I'm like, crap, I think I need some crampons.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And I told Christy, I'm like, we need crampons. And she's like, is that like a feminine product? It's like, what? Yeah. It's a crampon you just cram in there. I was like, no, it's like grippy stuff you put over your shoes, and some of them are spikes, but these are more like yak tracks. So I bought these special things, and I'm feeling good about this.
Starting point is 00:51:14 And so we go to the information place and talk to the park ranger, and he's like, yes, you can't take the 600 steps. They're closed for rock fall risk this time of year and ice. So you've got to take a detour up the John Muir Trail in order to go all the way around and get your way up to the top. But instead of going up the steps, you're going up the mountain. I was like, oh, that'll probably be easier. And, you know, just to skip forward to the end of this for a moment, nobody died, but five and a half hours later, we got back down.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Oh. I thought you were going to say got to the top, and I was like, okay, that's a problem. And we ain't used to hiking, the three of us. So I'm not just going to put this on Christy. It was like, I was like, the weather was perfect. It was like 65 degrees and sunny and it was beautiful. But then you start taking this detour trail and it's like switchbacks and switchbacks.
Starting point is 00:52:23 So how much water does a Neal drink on a five and a half hour hike? Because I would think it's more than you can carry. No, I had a bladder of water, I had two water bottles, and then I had a third Nalgene. Just for you? No, I was carrying a bag for all of us.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Okay. I was carrying the bag. And everybody was hydrated? Everybody was hydrated, but then we got like halfway up the trail, we're like at the bottom of the falls, and then this is where the bathrooms are, and the bathrooms are closed. So then, poor Christy, she's at a point where it's like,
Starting point is 00:52:55 we get up to the, I mean, by the time we got back down five and a half hours later, she had not peed anywhere. She was just holding it in. So it was just like, that's just miserable. You know, you got to have one of those. I should have bought one of those Go-Girls. They're like, it says things were like. There wasn't a bush or something?
Starting point is 00:53:16 She didn't want to do it. I kept saying, we can go off the trail here. We can go off the trail here. And she's like, logistically, I'd rather hold it. And I was like, okay, I respect that. But going up, just to kind of flash back a little bit, we're going up, and then Christy's like, where are, how far is this?
Starting point is 00:53:39 And I'm like, I don't know. We'll know when we get to the top. It's like, I mean, the way we were going to go 600 steps, 600 steps! It's like, but the way we're going, you know, there's no steps. It's just a bunch of rocks that are kind of like steps. You know, you kind of have to step up on a bunch of rocks. And it was not easy. And there were points where it kind of got a bit heated.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And I'm not talking about the weather anymore. When did you stop talking to each other? Right. That's the question. On a hike, it's like, when does the couple stop talking to each other? At that point, after that conversation, there was, yeah, we kind of stopped talking. And then it was like- You see, if you take that marriage advice
Starting point is 00:54:32 that Katrina's friend gave her- Exactly. You divorce on that hike. You see what I'm saying? And let me tell you, even though we knew that- You gotta make it back down from the hike. That's not how we do it. It was definitely on the table.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I mean, at a certain point, divorce was on the table. And then as I kept saying, you know what? We can stop as much as we want. We got snacks. We got water. We can just keep stopping. And the problem is, you know, Christy had this, from when we went skiing in Mammoth,
Starting point is 00:55:04 she had this elevation sickness that we went skiing in Mammoth, she like had this elevation sickness that impacted like her vestibular system. And it actually hasn't gone away. She's been doing her research. She was kind of dizzy. And she said, I feel like my brain is full of sand. Oh, that's a problem. And I didn't take the bait on that and turn that into a joke on this. But was kind of feeling for she couldn't pee she couldn't balance And she couldn't think straight
Starting point is 00:55:31 But it was beautiful and we could take as many breaks as we wanted and we stopped talking to each other Around that time and then it was like well You can stay here and then because it was we're going to come back down the same way And then we'll just We'll meet up with you And then she was like, I'm just going to go down And I'm like But are you dizzy? And then she was like
Starting point is 00:55:57 And then she would just She just kept walking And I was like, and then we just kept following So she was kind of in the lead And then She just kept walking. And I was like, and then we just kept following. So she was kind of in the lead. And then we'd stop again and we'd have that conversation again. That happened like four times. And then we started hitting snow.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Okay. And it was slippery and it was icy. Were you using the crampons? And I was like. Or did you have them ready to go? I had them, but we weren't using them yet. And I was like, that's when I got excited because I'm like, I bought these things. We need to use them.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Christy, come back. It's like, we need to. So I felt like, man, I bought these. That's what I was thinking all along. I was like, I bought these special things to put on our shoes when we get to a certain point in the trail when we're going to need them. I don't want to turn back before we have to use these things because I bought them to use.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Wouldn't it be cool to use these things? So secretly, whenever she kept trudging on, I was like, yeah, we're going to get to use these things. And we did. We got to put them on and walk on a little bit of ice. And then at the moment when murder was on the table, somebody was walking down and they were like, the so-and-so point is right up there.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And I was like, yes, that's what we're, we're just going to go to a point, you know, feel like we made it to something. And we did get up to the lookout point. We could see the waterfall and, you know, we ate some snacks and it was beautiful. Started talking again? Not really.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Okay. Not much talk. But eventually on the trip you did begin talking again. When we got back down and we thought, she thought she was going to have to wait like another 40 minutes to use the bathroom, but then like Lando spotted some port-a-johns, and the mood shifted big time. It changes everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:52 When you can pee. When your eyes aren't floating in urine. I don't know that it was worth it. It was quite grueling. Yeah, you kind of know a little bit about how long a hike might take is kind of a part of the equation. Five and a half hours. And I would think that at this point in your marriage,
Starting point is 00:58:14 Christy might know if Link is the one who has made this plan, the timing of it may not have come into. Well, that is what she was yelling, I mean saying, on the hike when she was like, she was saying, you know what? I just need to say no to you. Right. Like, I know you, and I know that you're going to drag me into something, and I can say no.
Starting point is 00:58:40 I can say I don't want to do this, but I didn't. So she was kind of beating herself up, and I knew to keep quiet at that point. Because I was like, because if I agreed, it was kind of a catch-22. It's like, I don't know. It's like, was I saying it was her fault for being here? What was Lando saying at this time?
Starting point is 00:59:02 He was, I mean, he's the one who said he wanted to do the hike, and he was fine with it, but he was a bit. Did he also get quiet? He got quiet. Yeah, we got quiet. We got quiet. But, I mean, it was a good story. I mean, it was like, for us, it was a memorable experience.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Like, that's what I was saying when we were driving back. I was like, you know, we slept on it that night. We had a nice little hike to the bottom of Yosemite Falls, which is beautiful, the next morning before we drove back. And I was like, years from now, what are we gonna remember from this trip? Is it, and then I just left it open, and then she was like, well, Yosemite Falls was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:59:52 The hotel was very memorable. And she didn't mention the grilling hike. And I'm thinking the only thing, just go ahead and say it, the only thing we're gonna remember from this trip, years from now, maybe for the rest of our life, is having to pee for five and a half hours and hiking up snow with these crampon devices and not being happy with each other.
Starting point is 01:00:20 That's what we're gonna remember, but we're gonna laugh about it. I didn't say any of that. You know, it's too early. I'll say that in a couple of years. But I feel like it was a victory. We made it to the top. We made it to the top.
Starting point is 01:00:35 If your goal in any given scenario is to remember it the hardest. Yeah, we're not gonna forget it. There's a lot of things, there's a lot of choices you can make. You know? Yeah. And so this kind of explains why Christy and Lando were totally fine with me taking the second half of spring break to just go off by myself.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Right. You know? She did say, no, I'd rather not do something the second half of the week. And it was like, so I think it's a nice bit of freedom that we both have to say to each other. If you're into that, go for it,
Starting point is 01:01:14 but I'm not. And that's what they both said. And they had a great week, just like they're watching Schitt's Creek, which apparently gets good, and they like it. That's their thing. And then I'm like, I'm going to Park City and I just want to snowboard by myself.
Starting point is 01:01:30 You know, our high school friend, Eric, is there. I met up with him. He gave me his pass. He was like, oh, I can take off work and go skiing with you Thursday, maybe Friday too. And I wrote back and I was like, well, I was kind of excited about going snowboarding alone. And I was like, I hope he takes this in the right way. And then he was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And then I was like, but he wanted to, he took me. So Thursday I skied alone, but then he was like, I really want to take you to Snowbird, which is another ski mountain that I'd never been to. You like have to drive. It's a different, it's not there at the canyons. It's not in Park City. You got to drive out and then drive up another canyon.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But it was, it was really cool. It was like a totally different vibe. It was steeper. There were basically no greens on Snowbird. But blues. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm more just a blue guy. But some of the blues felt more like blacks from Park City.
Starting point is 01:02:40 But I had the day to warm up, and I didn't hurt myself. But when I showed up, like, Eric took me to the hotel and we got dinner and, like, and I realized that, like, he didn't know exactly how to take the fact that I'm coming up to Park City alone. A year ago, like, I brought my whole family and we did a whole thing, right? Is everything okay? So he's, like, I realized he was thinking, are you okay?
Starting point is 01:03:09 Are you and Christy okay? Well let me tell you about a hike that we took recently. What's the deal? What's the deal? And I'm like, and I didn't realize that that's what this, that's how it would come across, you know? It's like, people don't, you know, people need to take more solo trips.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Once I explained to him what I was doing, I was like, I'd just like to have some time where I don't have to take anybody else into account and I can just like, you know, I'm always with somebody. You or a loved one. Well, you or a loved one. Well, you're a loved one. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:48 A family member. You know, I'm very rarely alone. That's why we've started taking the solo trips that we take because it's appealing to both of us because we don't have a lot of alone time. And you combine that with snowboarding. Like the logistics of like, I got to wait for somebody else on the slope and I got to make sure that I don't get separated.
Starting point is 01:04:09 And then we got to coordinate to get down to the same lift. And do you want to stop and eat or not? What time do you want to get on the slopes? There's a lot of logistics that didn't just go away. And then when you're out there on the slopes, I'm listening to like an epic cinematic soundtrack and just snowboarding down these blues at my own pace. And it was just like a heavenly little warm.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I don't know how you do that, the whole listening to music while doing it. At first, yeah, you want to feel like you can hear people around you but like you don't really hear somebody who's about to clobber you anyway sometimes sometimes they'll be like on your left but it's worth it it is a little more dangerous but the it was it was such a good vibe it was beautiful i loved it. Yeah, I'm too worried about somebody, like, beelining it coming up from behind me and not being able to hear them. I do get worried about it, but I just try to stay on the left side of a slope,
Starting point is 01:05:17 you know, because I'm regular footed. I can look to my right, and I can look up, but I can't. It's harder to look over my left shoulder. So you don't want people coming on your blind side. So if you hang out on the left and don't make huge turns,
Starting point is 01:05:32 it decreases the chances of that happening. But I, you know, I did get out of it unscathed. Did you fall at all? Not really.
Starting point is 01:05:40 No. No. And then I got a burger. I met a guy named Dennis. I bellied up to the bar at a place where you could get burgers and this ski instructor named Dennis was there. Seems like he was there a lot. Like he lived on the resort and he like taught
Starting point is 01:06:01 seven and eight year olds how to ski. I was like, dude, you are a saint. And so he became my buddy while I ordered my burger. And he was like, I was like, what do you recommend? He was like, you need to get a burger and chili cheese fries. And then you need to put the chili cheese fries on the burger. I'm like, oh, this guy's an expert. And so I'll be like, I'll take the Dennis special.
Starting point is 01:06:27 And she was like, what? And Dennis was like, he'll have a burger and then the chili cheese fries on the side. Okay. Yeah, you're going to build it. And then it comes out and I got a burger and chili cheese fries. And I'm like, Dennis, what do I do?
Starting point is 01:06:45 And he's like, well, you just take your hand and grab the chili cheese fries. And I'm like, but there's chili on it. He's like, just grab it. Like, you gotta get your hands dirty. Who is this Dennis? He's a ski instructor. He's the man.
Starting point is 01:07:02 And I'm like, whatever Dennis says, I do. So I guess I need to admit that like, maybe I was a little lonely. I was about to say. Because me and, I really needed a Dennis. It sounds like quite a connection. That night I really needed a Dennis in my life, so everything he was telling me to do, I was just doing. So I grabbed the chili cheese fries with my bare hand and just plopped it on the...
Starting point is 01:07:24 They don't have forks at this place? That's not why he told me not to do that. Okay. Plopped it on my burger. And I was like, Dennis, there's beans in this chili. This is not the type of chili that I put on a burger. It's like I have principles. Yeah, he didn't know who he was having an interaction with.
Starting point is 01:07:41 No. But, yeah, he didn't know and he didn't ask. But at one point, he did start filming me eating the burger. Really? And I was like, this is strange. He did not know who I was. We didn't talk about it. I wasn't being recognized.
Starting point is 01:08:01 He was just, he just thought I was funny. What did he say to you when he started? He was like, man, thought I was funny. But what did he say to you when you started talking? He was like, man, you, because I was making fun of him about the burger, about the chili having beans in it and like get my hand all messy and put it on the burger. I guess I was kind of making it, giving him his own private GMM, my half of it or something.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Yeah, sounds like it. I took it as a compliment that like I looked over and he was just like, man, you did a trip. And then he's like filming me. And I'm eating the burger and I'm like, dude, your burger sucks. Your burger's dry. Yep. I'm about to say.
Starting point is 01:08:36 It's not a good burger. When you get a burger on, I've never had a burger while skiing that was worth a shit. Like any of these places, it doesn't matter what. The sign said burgers on it. Yeah, okay, well. That didn't mean you could make them, it means you can make a sign that says it. So, I didn't get his number.
Starting point is 01:08:58 What about the rest of the time in terms of, because traveling, I have traveled, I've done like solo camping, but what, and I've done like one trip that was like to a town, but what I ended up doing is I got food and brought it back to my room cause my room that I was staying in had like a kitchen.
Starting point is 01:09:23 What I have not done, maybe once in my life, in the past like 10, 15 years, is like gone to a restaurant alone. Did you do that? Well, that's what I was gonna do to get a burger. And then I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna sit at a table alone. I'm just gonna sit at the end of this bar.
Starting point is 01:09:42 So I sat at the very end of the bar next to Dennis. But that was the one meal that you did that for? Yeah, that was the one meal. And that's where the lady was having, she was participating in the madness. Oh, that was all. She left. She was on the other side of Dennis.
Starting point is 01:10:02 So that was the madness piece of that. But then Dennis was there for the long haul. i left he was still there he yeah you know it's like um but i enjoy it's like a solo camping trip is like the pristine thing but being on the slopes alone is like a close second but then like yeah you're there's a lot of people around. It's not like when you're camping, you're like in complete isolation. Like that's his own special thing. But just, just being totally, I don't know. It's like, uh, just being totally on my own reconnaissance. It actually is a bit risky. Like I flew out of Burbank and I'm like, you know how I don't like to, I don't like, I was on Southwest.
Starting point is 01:10:46 You got to line up and you got to like, oh, you got to claim your seat and you got to, it's kind of stressful because they don't give you a seat. Yeah. And, and I don't like to wait. I like to, I don't like to wait in a line. I like to, so I, you know how I am. Like right before the planes, when the plane starts boarding is when I go to the bathroom. And so that way when I come back, maybe the line's down a little bit. And so I went to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I was like, oh, I had to, the bathroom's further away than I thought. So then I like, I walked to the bathroom. And this is the flight out there. I walked to the bathroom, used the bathroom, feeling good, make sure I got my water bottle filled up and everything. And I like to have water on the plane. And then I'm like, oh, crap, they're really boarding. And then I go and I scurry.
Starting point is 01:11:38 What does that mean? It's like the line was getting low. So I scurry back and I get in the line. You're definitely middle seat at this point. Yeah, I'm like, I'm screwed. And then I scurry back and I get in the line. You're definitely middle seat at this point. Yeah, I'm like, I'm screwed. And then I get up there and I like boop. And then it's like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. I'm like, oh shit, am I being retained?
Starting point is 01:11:56 What's retained? What's going on? It's like, everybody's like, boop, boop, green, boop, boop, green. I'm like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, red. And she's like, where are you going, sir? And I'm like, what is going on here?
Starting point is 01:12:10 It's like, I'm going to, I'm going to Park City. And she was like, this is going, we're going, this plane is going to Denver. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:12:22 oh shit. Link alone, man. And then it was because the bathroom was, it was further to get to it. It was the bathroom's fault. So then when I came out of the bathroom, I thought the bathroom was now closer to my gate, but it was one gate over. So then I run back to my gate and I'm like, oh yeah, okay. And it worked out. And it was green there.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah, it's like, I mean, you know, it's like. It usually, it figures itself out. It figures itself out. It figures itself out, but a lot of it happens last minute for me. It's like, you know, harkening back to two weeks ago when we were talking about the whole gas thing. Yeah. It's still working out for me. Like the not planning hit.
Starting point is 01:12:58 You made it. I'll plan the right things. Like I bought crampons. Right. But I'll get on the wrong flight if you don't watch me. I will go to another city. And back in the day, Back in the day,
Starting point is 01:13:08 that would have happened. Back in the day, you would have just been on the plane, right? Yeah. You would have just gotten on. They didn't ask any questions. Well, they, they, you had a,
Starting point is 01:13:17 they took your ticket, but they didn't scan it. So they probably didn't look at every one of them. Yeah. And then you get off the plane and you're, you're in the wrong state.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Yeah, that would have complicated things. Crampons or not. I could have gone skiing there in Denver or wherever it was going. Yeah, but where'd your snowboard go? Right. I had a good time, man. But I'm glad to be back. I'm glad to be back.
Starting point is 01:13:41 I do miss Dennis a little bit, though. It doesn't sound like you should. Well, just because he doesn't, I mean, again, it's a good story, not a good time. He's got bad taste in burgers. I've had good burgers. He's got a weird, he's trying to make this bad burger good. I needed a bad burger. He's got these chili fries on it.
Starting point is 01:14:03 He's filming you without asking. I like talking to strangers. I think that's part of it. I like talking bad burger. These chili fries on it. He's filming you without asking. I like talking to strangers. I think that's part of it. I like talking to strangers. Yeah, you do. This is exactly what I was talking about last week, because Jesse does as well. But you don't like talking to Uber drivers.
Starting point is 01:14:18 No. Those strangers. You don't talk to those strangers. I don't. I like talking to... She does. I like talking to... She does. I like talking to... I like getting a reaction from strangers.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I think more specifically. Like, I took it as a compliment that, like, Dennis started filming me eating the burger because he thought I was funny. He didn't want to forget me or something. I don't know. Maybe he wanted evidence. Just in case. But I... I mean, or something. I don't know. Maybe he wanted evidence. Just in case.
Starting point is 01:14:46 But I mean, I like, I don't know. I like strangers. It's when you get to know them that it becomes a problem. I think it's good for you to travel alone because I can imagine that the tenor of the interaction with dennis up into a certain point if i was there would have made me uncomfortable right because i would have been like he's giving this guy shit exactly how's he gonna take it is he gonna get mad or is he gonna start filming him right and i knew he was i eased into it i knew he was the type of guy that
Starting point is 01:15:23 could he could dish it out and he could take it. I just, I like meeting those type of people. And there's like no stakes. I don't know, and then it's over. Well, you sound like you might need to have like a alter identity or something like an alter ego. No, I just, I think it's, you know, just get it out of my system every now and again.
Starting point is 01:15:47 And then I go snowboarding by myself. Yeah, I, yeah, I don't think I'm going to do the snowboarding, the skiing by myself thing. But, because I'm afraid that if I fall and get hurt, I kind of need the person that I came with to be the one that I then interact with. I don't wanna be the guy on the side of the mountain moaning and just waiting for the next available person.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Oh, I need help and I'm by myself. See, but see, that's why I'm good with strangers. Yeah, I wanna have- A stranger doesn't know that I don't deserve to be helped because I've got myself into this situation. I wanna have a phone where I can contact a person I know and then they can come and they can interface for me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:33 Even if it's Shepard, I'd be like, Shepard, you taught this key patrol. I'm not saying anything. And maybe you turn over a new leaf. There's something fun about depending on the kindness of strangers. Yeah, and I typically, I do not like to do it. Leave it to me. Okay, well, there you have it.
Starting point is 01:16:55 I think I was supposed to have a wreck this week. Casey Musgraves' new album, Deeper Well. My favorite song on the album is, right now at least, is the one about the woods. What's it called? That's my recommendation. Heart of the Woods. Heart of the Woods is my favorite song on the Deeper Well album.
Starting point is 01:17:20 It's good on earphones. What are they called? It's good while snowboarding No I listen to it Just In bed Just when my
Starting point is 01:17:30 It's good in bed The new Casey The headphones It's good in headphones It's good in bed Yeah It's ethereal So that's my recommendation
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Starting point is 01:17:58 And I feel like you tend to see the car that you're in possession of more than any other car. You just notice it more. I have a Kia Soul, and I see them everywhere. And I refer to other Kia Soul drivers as my soul sisters. So you just gotta make it fun, you know?

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