Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Our Brushes with Death at Yellowstone | Ear Biscuits Ep. 438

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Whatever you do, stay on the path. In this episode, Rhett & Link talk about their annual college friend trip, tell a few cautionary tales about Yellowstone National Park, as well as individual instanc...es of heroism. Well, kind of. Find millions of new and used cars on https://autotrader.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:14 talk about life for a long time. I'm Link. And I'm Rhett. This week at the roundtable of dim lighting, we're gonna tell you about our recent nature excursion, death defying. Oh yes. We got so close to falling into a boiling, acidic pool that could have slothed off our skin. How close did we get, really? We could have gotten gored by a bison as well.
Starting point is 00:01:50 That's right, yeah, yeah. Both of these things happen a lot in Yellowstone National Park, which is one stop we made in our annual college buddies trip. Look, I got a new t-shirt, Link. And we're gonna tell you all about that. I like that shirt. I was like, well, hold on. We didn't go souvenir shopping. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:11 We didn't. You came home and bought a Yellowstone National Park shirt like off the internet. No, so you and Greg left early because you had an earlier flight. Had to move Lincoln back into college. Right. He's a big old sophomore now.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Greg took you to the airport, and that means that Tim and Harm and I basically went later. But what we did is they all, including, I'm including me in that they, we wanted some souvenirs. We wanted to take some stuff home for the fam, whatever. Maybe get a t-shirt. And so,
Starting point is 00:02:47 I don't want any of that. One of them, Googled a gift shop in Bozeman, which is where we flew out. And then as we were driving, as we were following the directions to the gift shop, we were like, oh, this is just the airport gift shop. You Googled, you Googled gift shop.
Starting point is 00:03:04 This is where we're just going to the airport early the airport gift shop. Ha ha ha! You Googled, you Googled gift shop. This is where we're just going to the airport early for the gift shop. Ha ha ha ha! And I was already early because my flight was an hour after theirs, so I was like, I'm gonna have a lot of time in this Bozeman airport, which, you know, it's a nice airport, but it's not a big airport.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I should've worn my souvenir. I didn't remember that when we were talking about the show. And a matter of fact, I tried on my souvenir this morning. I didn't remember that when we were talking about the show. And a matter of fact, I tried on my souvenir this morning. I looked at myself in the mirror with it on. Damn, yeah. A cowboy hat. I bought a cowboy hat.
Starting point is 00:03:35 A cowboy hat is the silhouette of the hat. I would say it's more of a- It's a light, very light gray, it's fuzzy almost. I think it's called unfinished felt or something like that? Yeah, the felt wasn't trimmed so it was kind of fuzzy and it was a vintage hat that you found. I found and tried it on,
Starting point is 00:03:58 because it caught my eye. I was like, that's a really, I mean, I don't wear cowboy hats, but if I'm going to wear one, it would be like, well, it needs to be something besides just like a guy who looks like a rancher. And I just put it on top of my head and it just sort of, teetered. It's set up on the top of my head. And then I didn't even see you try it on, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:04:16 No, well, then you were over on the wall of hats. And I was like, well, that's the best hat right there. I independently saw the hat and I tried it on. It fit your head. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm a little jealous. I bought the hat that Rhett wanted. I had to get the hat that I wanted.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And I mean, I don't know when or how I would ever wear this hat, but I had to wear it home because I couldn't pack it and I was flying and I flew directly to meet, I didn't fly into LA yet, I flew directly to meet Christie and Lando and Lincoln to move him into college. So here I am wearing my normal outfit plus a cowboy hat.
Starting point is 00:05:01 It's the kind of cowboy hat that goes with a regular outfit though. Oh really? I wore it on the, well, when I was wearing it down the street right after I bought it... Well, you don't really have regular outfits. Let me just say that. So I would just say, whatever you're wearing at the time, adding a light gray, unfinished felt cowboy hat kind of just probably goes with it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Okay, well, that's the green light. I'm saying that. I like that. I mean, I was walking down the street having just bought it in downtown Bozeman. Of course, I'm looking at my reflection in the store windows and I'm talking to my boys, including you, I'm like, what do you think of this hat? And I ask Harm and he's like,
Starting point is 00:05:44 you look like an unserious man. Yeah, right. He was like, I think he said that. Actually, he said that in the store when I was thinking about buying it. I was like, do you think I should buy this? And he was like, well, it fits you, but you look like an unserious man.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I was like, what? I don't think he said but. I think he said it confirms. Oh, yeah, I said, well, I am an unserious man. You are an unserious man. So I wore it. If there were ever any doubt. I wore it on the plane, I wore it confirms. Yeah, I said, well I am an unserious man. You are an unserious man. So I wore it. If there were ever any doubt. I wore it on the plane, I wore it in the airport,
Starting point is 00:06:09 I wore it on the campus, I wore it into the room to help Lincoln move in with his three suitemates and all of their families there helping him move in. And the first person who saw me was Lando, who like looked at it and didn't say anything. Right, good call. And then Christy is the first person who saw me was Lando, who looked at it and didn't say anything. And then Christy is the second person to see it, and she's like, take that off! It's embarrassing. I'm glad that there are other people in your life that don't have to say the
Starting point is 00:06:38 things that I want to say. I didn't take it off. And then Lincoln and his roommate saw it, and Lincoln just looked at it and was like, cool. Oh, that's good. That's good because it's really his opinion that matters in that scenario. He wasn't embarrassed. He wasn't embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:06:57 No, I'm happy that you found a hat. I'm unhappy that it didn't fit me, but I'm glad you have a fuzzy cowboy hat now. If your head gets smaller, I'll let you borrow it. Which is a fat chance. Well, if I cut my hair, my hat size goes down by a quarter to a half inch. And you have a small head. Well, the thing is, is I thought I had a small head.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I mean, look at all these pictures of me, of us growing up, when I had a shaved head and no beard and everybody's like, how is his head so small? What this, I mean- But the circumference of my head- You don't wear a big hat. When my hair is short, my hat size is seven and a half.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And I don't know what, I don't know if that's average. I don't- I think it's below average. I don't think it's below average. I thought I had a small head, but I don't think, like I don't know if that's average. I don't. I think it's below average. I don't think it's below average. I thought I had a small head, but I don't think, like listen. Probably for your body. I think it's just my body is so big. All right, and we're gonna get.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Average. You look that up. I'm. Hat size. We're gonna tell you more about our Yellowstone Adventures, but I had something happen to me and Christy and Lando two days ago, and I gotta tell you about this. I gotta tell you what happened. I think you're gonna be really surprised
Starting point is 00:08:12 at how I interacted with the emergency that I encountered. The average hat size for men is seven and three eights. So seven and a half is larger than average. And then with- Slightly. Yeah, but you said- One eighth. Yeah, hold on.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Okay, yes, right. You said I have a small head. I have a larger than average head, which is- Yes. Which is, that's- For your size, you think you still have a small head. And then with my hair, it's like seven and three quarters. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:42 A woman's average head size is seven and a quarter. Okay. I think my head has grown though. I think as you get older, something happens. Well, your ears get bigger and your nose gets bigger. But I think something happens with your skull. I mean, this is a tight, this is a hard thing. This isn't cartilage.
Starting point is 00:09:02 This is not like what's happening with your ears. I think something keeps, I think maybe it's just that I read so much. Yep, that's it. It's got me... the information's gotta go somewhere, and so it's like, well, we gotta push out on your skull. That's why I also get headaches. Well, especially because it's just audiobooks. I mean, when you take it in...
Starting point is 00:09:21 It's one part of my brain. When MP3s go in there, it really swells it. Right. Reminder, we're doing it again this year, Good Mythical Evening. This is the R-rated, unfiltered experience where there's inebriation, there's adult concepts, languages. Concepts. And we take the formats of Good Mythical Morning and we subvert them into trying to see if you can match my freak, all right?
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Starting point is 00:14:33 Lando has started getting into buying records. We have a record player there in the living room, and he's really started to develop his music taste. He's more of a R&B guy than a hip hop guy. So it's interesting. a foreign B guy than a hip hop guy. So it's interesting, he likes soul singers. Soul singers. I mean like, but modern day like Brent Fiaz, Victoria Monet, but also getting into some folk stuff. Like we both love Clero.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Anyway, so I jumped to the chance. So the three of us hop in the car to go to Amoeba in Hollywood, which is, you know, world famous record store. It's absolutely huge. Like I knew he was gonna feel this way when he went in there and he was. Oh, this is his first time.
Starting point is 00:15:20 What do I do? It's so big. It's like the Virgin Mega store in New York. Remember that one? No, not really. Like a tape store? It's probably not as big as that one, actually. But it's very big. Of course, it's on Hollywood and Vine, I believe. Or one block off of that, maybe. Anyway, we had a park in the parking garage behind it, and I was a little confused, so like, there's two entrances and one says private and one's
Starting point is 00:15:52 public, and I'm like, sitting there trying to figure out what entrance to go into, and I'm pulling a little bit more into the private one, by accident. And as I'm rounding the corner, turning left to like pull in there, Christy kinda looks ahead and she's like, something's happening! That's what she said. Something's happening! And I stopped the car right there. I made sure that I was out of traffic, but I didn't wanna pull in further and have somebody... I didn't know what this something was that was happening. Where was she looking, Al?
Starting point is 00:16:21 She was looking straight ahead where I was about to drive. It's kind of a ramp going... But you couldn't see it. I couldn't see it because there was looking straight ahead where I was about to drive. Like, it's kind of a ramp going... But you couldn't see it. I couldn't see it because there was a pillar there that I was turning left around to go into the parking deck. Okay. And there was a little walkway on the left side of it, and she's like, somebody's...
Starting point is 00:16:41 Something's happening. And then she's like, somebody's hurt, was the second thing she said, but there was a beat there, and I'll come back to that, what happened in between those two statements. She gets out of the car, somebody's hurt, so then I put on the flashers and I get out of the car, and it's two women in their early 20s.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And it's two women in their early 20s. One of them is laying on her back and the other one is supporting her head. And what had happened was she had a seizure and had fallen and hit her head on the concrete. And there was a pool of blood underneath her head. By the time I got up to her, I did not see her seizing. Christy saw her at the tail end of her seizure, but she was still out. And her friend was on the phone with 911, and then Christy and I were like clarifying what the address was so she could relay it to 911. And she's like, you
Starting point is 00:17:57 know, she's panicking. And I go up, Christy goes back to the car to look, she goes back towards the car to look to verify the address to make sure that we were saying we were at the right place, while I go up and like I kneel down beside the girl and like the injured girl starts to come to. And she's like, what happened? And she actually starts to smile a little bit. And she was like, I don't feel anything, I'm okay. And then she started to get up, and we're like, don't get up. And then... Where was this blood coming from?
Starting point is 00:18:39 The back of her head. And then I went back, me and Christy kept trading places, going back to the car, trying to find something to put under her head to stop the bleeding. And we couldn't find anything in the car. Oh, I thought y'all had all kinds of stuff. Certainly y'all have. Like a first aid kit? You're the most prepared family that I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:06 You're in Christy's car? We're in my car, and I had a back, Christy put her survival backpack in the back of my car, but I took it out when I got my car washed, and I never put it back in there. And so I'm looking for any type of napkins or towels or something, and then I'm telling Christy, I'm like, I'm like... You got like a bunch of in and out napkins.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I think I'm gonna have to take my shirt off and give for my shirt to put on the back of her head to apply some pressure. And... Okay. And plus I thought that would seem pretty heroic. You know, to like... Because I was of course thinking only about myself and how I've seemed. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:19:47 No, I wasn't, but like, I'm like, do I need to take my shirt off? And at that point, Christy was like... Maybe I would have used a sock first before I got to this day. I wasn't wearing socks. See? You can't use your pants. That's even worse. Right, you used your shirt before. And so, and then as I'm about to take my shirt off, Christy comes around with like a Canvas Trader Joe's shopping bag. Perfect. Just put the whole...
Starting point is 00:20:12 Bag over her head? I don't wanna make a light of this. I know. We're obviously... Well, it was scary, but the thing that... The woman's okay. You would be telling the story. When I went back over there, the main thing I was doing because the paramedics were on their way was like, I tried back over there, the main thing I was doing, because the paramedics were on their way, was like,
Starting point is 00:20:25 I tried to make eye contact with her friend who was freaking out, and be like, it's okay. It's gonna be okay. Help is on the way. So I was like, the best thing that I can do is find something to put in her hand under her head, which became a Trader Joe's bag, to like stop the bleeding. But I was able to tell her, I was like, I'm pretty sure the bleeding has stopped. I mean, there was a big puddle of blood,
Starting point is 00:20:55 like I'm talking like this big. Oh my God. Under her head. But she had stopped bleeding. It wasn't like running off of her hand behind her head or anything. Was she now speaking more? She was speaking more. She was able to tell me what her name was.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And I was just like, I'm gonna keep a calm demeanor, and I'm gonna try to make eye contact and say everything's okay. And I don't know if this is the right thing to do, but I put a little bit of a smile on my face. In retrospect, I don't know if I should have done that. Well, show me what you mean. Say the things you were saying. It's gonna be okay. Is it a little demented? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, yeah. I kind of felt when I was doing it, I was like, should it be a smile?
Starting point is 00:21:38 I'll just say, the way I interpreted that was this guy kind of, he's enjoying it a little bit. But aren't you surprised that of all the people who would be misinterpreted that was this guy kinda, he's enjoying it a little bit. But aren't you surprised that of all the people who would be misinterpreted as enjoying a pool of blood emergency would be me? Like, I was really proud of myself. The thing is, it probably wasn't as what you just did because with all that blood there, you had to be, I would think that your eyes showed a little bit of like... It's gonna be okay. Yeah, yeah, but you were smiling at the same time. Who knows how you came across?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Well, the thing that I didn't want to be the one to put the... At least you didn't have your cowboy hat on. I didn't. I didn't want to be able to put... I thought about it. Not at that moment, but before I got in the car. I didn't want to put my hand in the blood, so I gave her the bag and said, hey, put this under her head and put your hand back under there. What was the woman saying? Was she like, oh, I have seizures? No. My impression was...
Starting point is 00:22:31 This was a new thing. This was a new thing. It caught her friend totally off guard. There was also, at first I thought, there was a lot of misconception. Well, let me skip to the end and then I'll tell you some of the misconceptions so that we can not have fun with this, but there's some weirder points. The paramedics came, she was stabilized, and they got her out of there. I mean, I think that she was no longer bleeding, she was conscious. There's no way she didn't have a concussion.
Starting point is 00:23:01 So, I mean, it could be pretty serious still, but like she was stabilized, she was taken care of. There was nothing else for us to do. As they were taking her off, we talked to her friend. We were like, you did great. She's gonna be taken care of. Everything's okay. Do you need anything else?
Starting point is 00:23:20 And then it was kind of like everything, everybody was able to take a breath and she was being cared for. And so then we just had to leave and go into the record store but I mean when the so I can't say it was a happy ending but it was the best ending that I can provide for this story so that then I can go back and say when there was a big pool of blood, I was pretty confused when I walked up there. I was like, because there was a red pool of blood and then there was a green pool of blood.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And I was like, what the hell is going on? Is this vomit? Yeah, they had smoothies. Smoothies, yeah. She had spilled her smoothie all over the place, but I was pretty damn confused for a second. But I wasn't as confused as Christy was when she first... Christy thought it might be a bodily fluid.
Starting point is 00:24:10 No. When Christy first saw the thing going down, and she was like, Something's happening! The reason why she didn't say, Somebody's hurt. I asked her later, and she was like... I was like, You said something's happening. And she said, I asked her later, she was like, I was like, you said something's happening, and she said, well when I first saw that there were two people there, I thought two people were having sex. Pfft. Wow. And that's a, something's happening. I think she was like, something's happening,
Starting point is 00:24:45 don't pull in here. I think she also said don't pull in here. Oh yeah, don't pull out either. Because she did, if people were having sex in the exit to the parking lot, which I mean in fairness, this is Hollywood. Oh I've seen sex on the street. It can totally happen.
Starting point is 00:25:01 She didn't want us to like slowly have to drive next to it to get our parking ticket thing. Yeah. Because you can't just drive through. We would have to stop right next to this couple having sex. Right. But that's not what it was. It wasn't sex.
Starting point is 00:25:20 On second look, it was an emergency. It was one of the more unsexy things that could be happening. Yes, yes. Talk about a turn. Yeah. On second look, it was an emergency. It was one of the more unsexy things that could be happening. Yes, yes, talk about a turn in your hands. And then I go off and I'm like, green, what? But I was pretty, I was glad that I was able to keep my cool and be that close to some panic and a lot of blood.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeah. I'm not trying to make this story about like, oh, look at me. You want a badge or something? Yeah, I'm not asking for a badge. A patch. I don't know. You want the hero patch from the Cub Scouts
Starting point is 00:25:56 that we never completed because we quit after the first day? Christy told me not to tell this story on the podcast. You'll probably get it on eBay. Should I not have told this story? We'll find out. We'll find out whether or not that was a good idea or not. I think it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. You know, we.
Starting point is 00:26:11 We'll do the best we can. I mean, what choice do we have, Link? We have a podcast. Things happen. Right. You gotta talk about it. And when you're a hero. Right. You really gotta talk about it.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So, I mean, I have my own story. You're a hero. Now that you've told that story that I've remembered before we get into Yellowstone. Something was happening to you too? Something was happening. I was dropping Shepherd and his friends off at the public transportation
Starting point is 00:26:38 that they use to get around town. And as I'm pulling in to the place to drop them off, there is a guy who is backing down, was making another dude back down in a parking lot. And he was like, kind of like, he's got his arms back. Backing down? Like there's one guy backing away from another guy who's coming at him, but it's kind of slow, like the beginning of a fight.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Okay. And like they're squaring up, but one guy is backing away and the other guy, and I thought at first the look on the guy's face was, I don't know, just because I happen to be, at least I attempt to be a comedian of sorts for a living, when I saw this guy making this face, I thought they were playing around. Like, the look on his face was like the look on my face if I was acting like I was fighting you. Just a little slap-boxing face? It was just like... Oh.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It was like very cartoonish. Okay. Okay. And the guy was backing away, but then he threw a haymaker. What? Caught the guy on the side of the head. The guy who was on the offensive? The guy on the offensive struck the guy on the defensive.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Good God, with a roundhouse. Yeah, and then the guy kind of like, it didn't catch him clean, but he threw a couple more punches, and at that point, Shepard was like, dad, don't drop us off here. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Basically, well, he still wanted to get on
Starting point is 00:28:23 like the train at that part, but he was like, not right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so... But you had already stopped, so you were like, get out! No, no, I pulled into this parking lot and we kind of drove by it and I was like, oh there it is. And so then, the guy in the defensive, he crossed the street and then the other guy
Starting point is 00:28:39 was still really mad. He was still fired up. Making that face? Yeah, and then another guy came up and started talking to him and was kind really mad. He was still fired up. Making that face? Yeah, and then another guy came up and started talking to him, and was kinda laughing. The things you see in these parts. But then we kinda were at the other end of the parking lot, and then, you know, they got on public transportation
Starting point is 00:29:02 in Los Angeles. Sounds like we're both heroes, man. That's right. Sounds like we're both really combing the streets for things we can straighten out. Yep, I averted crisis with that fight. Who knows what could happen if I had to drop the kids off at that part of the parking lot.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I left the bloody Trader Joe's bag just where it lay. Ooh, you littered. Well, now you're not., you gotta take that patch back. What am I supposed to do? Pick it up and put it in trash. Give it to the paramedics. You can't leave a bloody bag on the ground. Well, it was on the other side of the cement wall
Starting point is 00:29:37 and there were paramedics over there and don't they clean that stuff? Well, let's just be honest though. This is not the only Bloody Trader Joe's bag that's somewhere on the streets of LA on that day. Exactly. Well, at the opposite end of the urban spectrum. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:56 We found ourselves in Montana. This is the third time that we've gotten together with our college buddies from NC State University. Go Wolfpack, go pack. We, you know, we were all really close in college. We reconnected during the pandemic and now three years in a row of getting together for a weekend out of the year to enjoy nature, to risk some life and limb, not too much, just enough to have a story to tell.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And we went to Montana, first time in Montana for the two of us. They call it Big Sky, and I gotta say, there is a lot of that there. We flew into Bozeman, we stayed just outside of Big Sky, the town, which is right next to Big Sky, the resort. And I gotta be honest, Big Sky, the town, was not really a town.
Starting point is 00:30:53 You know? It's like everything there was kind of built in the last 10 years or less. You're not a new construction kind of guy, huh? Around the fact that in the winter, this is where everybody comes to ski and it's probably a totally different vibe. But in the summer, it was kind of like, okay,
Starting point is 00:31:14 this is like a new development. I guess I expected like a mining town, like when we went to Durango or like, Bozeman is like a historic town. Bozeman's more like that. But Big Sky, the town is, I don't think was anything. It's in it's small. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I didn't mean to start off with some complaints, but I mean, we were, so, having never been to Yellowstone, we're trying to figure out the best way to see it. And what we determined was e-bikes. I love a good e-bike, you know? You're out there in it. I mean, but you're, you're not over-exerting yourself. Let's be real. And...
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm doing a lot of work. A book, Dissatour, it just ended up being us, like nobody else, with Big Sky, let me make sure I get this right, Big Sky e-bike tours. Yeah. And it was amazing. Jay, the owner, was our guide. And shout out to Jay, he was awesome. I would say, I said this afterward, of all the guided tours that I've been on of all types over my life,
Starting point is 00:32:35 I think he was the best tour guide I've ever had. He took an experience that was really good and he made it really great. We can talk about some of the stories that he told. He's very knowledgeable of the park, and also. It was nice, because you get to move around on the bikes. Well, the e-bike, the part of it is great. Going from parking lot to parking lot.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah, you can just go right up, and then you park your bike, and then you see the thing. And he had one of those microphones that he's speaking into and you all have on headphones, which I know is not like a revolutionary thing for a tour, but it's for an e-bike tour, it's actually pretty necessary. So we'd be in this long line, six of us total.
Starting point is 00:33:19 He's in the front, he's telling stories the whole time. And listen. I ask him, now, is this two way? Can you hear us talk back to you? And he was like, no. And I was like, well, I was glad I asked because I thought you'd been ignoring me the whole time because I would be talking to you the whole time, Jay.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Oh, I thought you asked that late in the day. No. Early in the day. I knew. The, it was, I don't want to tell all Jay's stories, so we're not, because those are Jay's stories to tell. There's one story in particular that I do wanna tell. And I was gonna say that we should give a warning
Starting point is 00:33:50 that we were gonna tell a story about. A gross story. A gross story, but Link started off without a warning. I already told a gross story. So you're already gone. So I'm gonna tell another one at some point, but not yet. So I've always wanted to go to Yellowstone because I love geological things. And there are more, according to Jay,
Starting point is 00:34:12 thermo, what is the word, thermal features? Yep. Geothermal features in Yellowstone than the rest of the world combined. That seems to be the fact that I remember. But I'll tell you, we showed up, we drive in, and it was cold, it was a little nippy, it was like 45 degrees, right, as we're driving in.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And so of course, the temperature difference with all these geothermal features, and some of them are springs, some of them are pools, some of them are just a little fissure in the ground. There's just like steam just coming up from everywhere. And of course there's geysers. Yeah, the geysers. But not just, oh, there's Old Faithful.
Starting point is 00:34:52 No, as you're driving in, you just get to these places and it's just everywhere across the landscape. So the whole thing is a super volcano. A caldera, I think, is what they call it, right? So it's this giant underwater, underground volcano that doesn't have a giant cone. Maybe it did at one point and it like blew up or something. But we saw Old Faithful first. It was nice to have a tour guide because these things are, they work on a schedule.
Starting point is 00:35:22 That's why it's called Old Faithful. But not only that, the other, there's other geysers that like, within a margin of error, you can show up at the right time and see it. So we didn't have to worry about any of that. But I think once we started going to a few pools and we were, when we'd get off the bikes and look at a pool, the questions we started to ask,
Starting point is 00:35:42 let him know that we wanted to go morbid. Oh yeah. I think he picked up on that signal very early on because then he just started letting us have the stories. So all these pools are, first of all, they're all different, right? So the pH of the water is different depending on the pool. It's like- The temperatures vary.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Some of them are, I think we discovered that the boiling point for water at the elevation in this valley was 199 degrees Fahrenheit. And so there are some that are basically at that and they're just sitting boiling. You just walk up to this pool and now there's like a walkway, you know? At some point there wasn't a walkway,
Starting point is 00:36:27 but now there's a walkway with a little fence or whatever. Some of them have fences, some of them don't. But you can't walk up to any of them. The only ones you can walk right up to are the ones that have walkways. I guess if you went into the backcountry, but technically that's illegal. You're not supposed to just walk off because you can die. They're very serious about you staying on the backcountry, but technically that's illegal. You're not supposed to just walk off. And they're very-
Starting point is 00:36:45 You can die. They're very serious about you staying on the walkways because if you go off of the walkway, because it is tempting to like, oh, I'm gonna go just over here a little bit and get a picture, I gotta get the right selfie. If you post that on the internet and the FBI is scouring these for, like, the Geo tags,
Starting point is 00:37:13 and they will know, they'll see exactly where you are when you're taking the picture, and then they will come after you with a court summons and or a fine. And it's like very legit. It's very legit. He told a story. Like, Pierce Brosnan. Yeah, he got busted recently. Like within the last month, James Bond himself was dinged with a fine. He had to come back into town to go to court.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And they're very serious about it. They're very serious about it. And the way that he told a story about this girl who, you know, basically, you go to Yellowstone, you take a bunch of selfies, you take video, and if you get too close to one of these things, you get off the path or you get too close to a bison or whatever you might do, these are all federal, these are all park violations, it's technically federal I guess because it's a national park. And so they use the geotags, the FBI is literally looking at the geotags of everything posted from Yellowstone and seeing if there's any violations. And so what happened was is once this woman was, she posted this stuff and they
Starting point is 00:38:21 like messaged her or came after her or something. People were yelling at her because she was in a particular place and she was kinda being really obnoxious about it. Right. And people were upset about that and upset at her. And then she got a little too close for comfort but then ran back from a geyser or something. But she turned her social media off.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah. For four months. Yeah. And was like, okay, I guess I'm good. And as soon as she came back online... Ding! ...FBI knocking on the door. That's great. Pierce Brosnan needs to be doing some sort of public service
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Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, this is gnarly. Okay. You've heard the warning. It's not pictures. I mean, it's, I will paint a picture. Okay, do it. All right, so- The pools are mesmerizing. They look like the most amazing hot tubs
Starting point is 00:40:33 that you could ever imagine. Because they are so hot and because they are so acidic, there's only a few things that can grow in there. In fact, there are these, there's this microbial life that only lives in these particular hot springs, because nothing can grow. And basically the heat and the bacterial life, they create these amazing colors.
Starting point is 00:40:58 So you'll have this- Concentric rings as you come out. Almost rainbow. Yep, and they're so different bacteria, different color, so it corresponds to the different temperature of water that they're able to thrive in. And the surface inside these things, a lot of them, is this white mineral deposit that looks like something
Starting point is 00:41:20 that if you were building an incredible hot tub in your backyard, you would love a surface like this. Like a smooth, yeah, silica surface of all these deposits. And it's just white, and then there's some stuff on it, but. There was one lip on the edge, and it looked like God had carved a couch into the side of it. Yeah, yeah, it looked like you could just get in there. And if there was an offense, we'd be talking about, God had carved a couch into the side of it.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah. And if there wasn't a fence, we'd be talking about, hey, go sit on that couch, Mo. Right. Hey man, go sit on that couch. And the water is so turquoise, amazingly turquoise, and then the way that the whatever's coming out of the pools is interacting with whatever's around them,
Starting point is 00:42:02 all around is like this rusty orange color. So you take, you know, if you're a painter and you're painting, you love like mixing like a turquoise with an orange because they are opposite on the color spectrum and they're very complimentary. Like this is happening naturally in these places where this incredible blue eye
Starting point is 00:42:23 surrounded by this rusty color, and it just looks like a painting. Everything looks like a painting. So, if you're a dog, say a golden retriever, you could see how you might impulsively wanna take a dip. impulsively want to take a dip. So there was a guy who was there with his friends who had a dog, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:59 The dog jumps into one of the pools and immediately without thinking, this guy sees his friend's dog go into this pool. He takes his shirt off. He dives head first in after the dog. He immediately comes up and his head emerges from the water. First thing that they see is that his eyes are completely white, because they've already got these chemical burns that have just burned the surface of his eye. And he says, that was stupid.
Starting point is 00:43:33 They proceed, he proceed, somehow he like gets to the edge and they're able to get him out. This is gonna get bad, okay? They get him out and as he puts his hands on the ground, the skin of his arms just sloughs off like a glove. It was that acidic and it was already doing that to him. And then, you wanna talk about what happened to his foot? I don't remember, I think I stopped listening.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that part of the story. Oh, you didn't see this. They were telling you this story? Oh, you saw this. I thought you saw all the way. Jesus. No, Jenna, we weren't there.
Starting point is 00:44:11 This is a tour guide story. I'm sorry. This is Jade. Hold on, hold on. She thought, Jamie thought the same thing. We both thought y'all were there witnessing it. If both of y'all thought that, that means that a lot of people are gonna think that,
Starting point is 00:44:24 because it's something about the way we set it up. So let me just say, go back and insert this in. No, don't. Oh my God. The story we're about to tell is a story that didn't happen to us and was told to us. No, hold on, it's good.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Hey, if that's what's gonna keep you listening, we'll clarify right now, I'm feeling a little faint. Anyway. Definitely painted a picture. His shoe came off and his foot stayed in it. Ah! Ugh. I am feeling nauseous in a way now that I didn't when he told me that day. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And he died. He died. You don't come back from that. I think he pretty much died right then. Don't go and don't jump in. Now there are some pools. That's some really good last words, though. That was stupid. There are some pools in the park that are not acidic and are not
Starting point is 00:45:10 too hot, and apparently, you know... Locals know. Locals know where those are at. But you can imagine all the experiments that have been done to figure out if, okay, can we get into this one? Who are we gonna make go into this one? It's gnarly. We saw the largest hot spring. In North America. In North America. Third largest in the world behind two
Starting point is 00:45:32 that are in New Zealand, which you have seen at least one of them. Apparently I did, yeah. Apparently. 360 degrees in diameter. Well, that's. I mean, 360 feet in diameter, I think. It's. So longer than a football field.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Grand prismatic spring. This thing was amazingly beautiful. If you're at eye level with it, the light bouncing off of the water makes the steam that's coming off, it colorizes it like a rainbow. Yeah, it's not looking into a rainbow. Like a rainbow that's just in the mist of the ground. It's a grand prism. So that was cool, and we hiked up to get some elevation
Starting point is 00:46:20 and take a look at that. Now one of the things that he was talking about, it was just so fascinating to me as we were sitting next to the river having lunch, is we began talking about the balance of nature as it exists in Yellowstone. And this was just wild because we had seen elk as we came in and we had seen bison as we came in. We had learned that bison and buffalo are the same thing.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Buffalo is a slang term for bison. And of course, these are the animals that roam the Great Plains of America. There were millions upon millions of them until we showed up and killed like almost all of them. But they have made a little bit of a comeback and there are these wild herds that still exist and are protected like the herds that are in Yellowstone.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And so you've seen the TikTok videos. In fact, I think there's a TikTok account called Taurons, tourists who are morons. And there's people getting too close to these things and the bison don't F around and they will take your ass out or give you a new asshole is really what they'll do. Yep. And so anyway, we were a little bit frightened
Starting point is 00:47:33 but he begins to tell the story because I was like, didn't they introduce, like reintroduce wolves and are there bears here and like, what's the deal with this and that? And he began to tell us sort of the intricate story of the different powers that be and the biologists who work for the park, but also the conservationists or the public
Starting point is 00:47:55 or the hunters or whatever, and the different people who are vying for this. And then you got like the ranchers and the farmers in that part of the country who, you know, they don't want the wolves to be around because they're killing their livestock. But because the elk didn't have any natural predators, all of a sudden the elk population
Starting point is 00:48:15 is completely out of control. And of course, hundreds come in and like take some of them out, but there's still too many of them. They reintroduce wolves. They can't reintroduce the timber wolf, which is what was native to the area because it's extinct because we killed that sucker. So they put another type of wolf in there
Starting point is 00:48:28 that's a little bit bigger, has no trouble taking out the elk and all of a sudden they're thriving and maybe they're getting a little bit too big. You've also got the grizzlies, you know? And then he's talking to us about the fish. We're sitting there next to the river. Right. And he's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:45 there's a few different trout species in this river. And the only one that's native is the cutthroat, but there's also a brown trout and there's rainbow trout. And he says, what the biologists do is they come down here and they put like a temporary sort of like net or whatever, and they net off a very large area of the river, and then they put some chemical in there that knocks all the fish out.
Starting point is 00:49:08 They float to the surface. The biologists go around and they take out the invasive species and they put them on the shore, and then they put another chemical in there, and they wake them back up. This is crazy that people are doing this. I mean, it's kind of awesome that they're trying to figure out how to, but once you've really screwed up the balance of nature,
Starting point is 00:49:28 you can see how difficult it is to get it back, but they're really making noble efforts to do so. But that was fascinating. Right, I also think that there's a balance of nature in like people jumping into hot springs and dying. Maybe that's called natural selection. The Darwin Awards? Yeah, we learned all about nature.
Starting point is 00:49:44 But while we were there at the river, we were trying to figure out how we were gonna get to go to the place that we wanted to get to because they had closed down a road because the bison herd had come in and they were basically splitting this road. And there's some on the road, and there's some next to the road,
Starting point is 00:50:00 and this was like the mating season, so you've got all these really horny males who are in in the rut what it rutting what are they what yeah yeah they're horny you know they're kicking up dust they're trying to F anything they can and they're out of control and they don't want the tourists to get too close to them and get in between them and something that they want and so they shut down this whole road that we needed to get our close to them and get in between them and something that they want. And so they shut down this whole road that we needed to get our e-bikes down so we could e-bike. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:32 And so because Jay, Jay's the hero of the story, Jay, because he knew the park ranger. We were heroes of our own stories earlier, so that's fine. Right, earlier we told those. He basically talked to them and he was like, can we get, you know, we need to get down to this parking lot and can we get an escort for just us and the bikes?
Starting point is 00:50:50 And they were nice enough to let us, because it was just one group, it wasn't like they're letting everybody in. So the park ranger escorted us through this herd of bison on this road and there's like. Well, we want, you know, to bring your, to notch your story down a bit, we weren't on bikes at the time.
Starting point is 00:51:06 No, we were in a truck. The bikes were in a trailer and we were... I kinda wanted to be on the bikes. I wanted to be on the bikes. In the herd to like be able to tell the story. But I don't wanna be a tour on. You know, when we told Jay this as we were, cause he's telling us stories the whole time about bears
Starting point is 00:51:20 and bison and all the stuff that can happen. And we was like, well, you know, if something does happen, we have a podcast, we'll talk about it. So we kind of want something to go sideways, but nothing really did. And look at us still talking about it. But we took the e-bikes through and we got kind of close to some bison at times
Starting point is 00:51:44 where it was enough to be like, damn, these things are big. But after talking about the balance of nature, hearing all about bison, that night, we went to a restaurant and bison was on the menu. Oh, bison's on the menu, boys. And I was like, I just feel like
Starting point is 00:52:04 to complete the circle of life here, I need to eat bison. Okay, yep, and so you did. And the woman... A lot of places serve bison around there. It seems everybody wants it. She said, this bison is not local bison, because the local bison would taste like sage grass, because that's what they eat. This is farm... Canadian farmed bison would taste like sage grass because that's what they eat. This is farmed Canadian farmed bison,
Starting point is 00:52:28 which I would then go on to find out later using another resource that we'll tell you about in a second that I think 96% of all bison are just on farms right now. People just farm them for food just like they would cows, but there's still like a small percentage out there that are still, you know, the buffalo are still roaming. How did it taste? It tasted like lean beef.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And there's, you know, let's just be honest here. There's a reason that cows ended up becoming the thing that people ate besides bison, right? And I don't really know the history of this, you know, cattle or domesticated bovine. I think that they're actually from Europe. I don't think that they are like buffalo that were bred to be different, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:53:22 But they're all coming from the same common ancestor at some point, this bovine thing, right? Okay. But- They don't taste as good as cows when you're getting that. Well, because cows are basically genetically engineered over many generations to basically be like a certain combination of fat and muscle or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And so, however, there's a lot of people who prefer the taste of Wild Game because it hasn't been engineered in that way. But when you've just kind of grown up and that's what you've been eating, I think Wild Game can take a little bit getting used to. In fact, the woman at the restaurant was, she said, and the woman at the second restaurant,
Starting point is 00:54:02 the second night where there was also bison on the menu, which I didn't get the second day, she was like, oh yeah, cause I ordered a medium rare. She said, you should order wild game one step up cook temperature wise. Less rare than you usually order beef. It will be less rare.
Starting point is 00:54:20 So you should order it more done. So if you like medium rare steak. No, it would be more rare. So you need to order it less rare. Yeah, you need to it more done. So if you like medium rare steak. No, it would be more rare. So you need to order it less rare. Yeah, you need to order more cooked. So you should order medium. I should have ordered medium instead of medium rare. It was just too rare for me.
Starting point is 00:54:33 And I know you can make the rec of the book, but since you're talking about eating Canadian bison, that brings up a voicemail that we received. Hi, um, I'm from Ottawa, Canada, and I've been listening for many years and I just had a question about what do you guys think of Canada? Um, I feel like Canadians know a lot about the United States. I tend to know a lot of cities, but I've heard that Americans don't know that much about Canada
Starting point is 00:55:14 and I'm wondering how much you guys know and what you generally think of us. I'm just curious. Thanks so much. Bye. Okay. Well, thanks for the question. As it turns out, we know a lot about Canada. Of course, for starters, we know that your bison is the most edible. We know that the children in Canada are never fed from the breast.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Instead, they are fed directly from the maple tree. Right. If you go to Canada, what you'll find is that the babies are placed, there's a little, there's a wrapping that goes around the babies and they're just placed onto trees and somebody goes up and puts a little, Right there at the mouth.
Starting point is 00:55:59 A little siphon and it just basically feeds them maple syrup, that's how the babies are raised, I know that much. It was the original term for tree hugger was referring to Canadian babies. It's been co-opted by the environmentalist or people who refer to environmentalist. I know that you all speak French.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I also know that everyone is required to play hockey. Right. It's not really a negotiable thing. In order to get your GED, which is the equivalent of a high school degree, you have to be at least able to ice skate. Yes. Of course we know that in Canada,
Starting point is 00:56:41 there are no delineations. There's no states or I don't, any, you wouldn't call, even if you called it something else, you don't have it. It's just one big thing called Canada. Because it's like, it's almost like it's just another US state. But it's huge. Just a big one. We know it's huge. That's on top.
Starting point is 00:57:01 And there's not many cities in it. I think there's three cities. I think Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal. There's three cities and the rest is just open plain. Or forests. Ottawa, I think, she mentioned Ottawa. That's not a city. That's a region.
Starting point is 00:57:17 That's a region. That's a region. But the regions don't, it's unusual that that region has a name because most of them don't, because I know this because I've met a lot of Canadians. And every time I meet a Canadian, and what they'll do is they'll say they're from Canada, and that's all they'll say. Right, because there's really no distinction between.
Starting point is 00:57:38 There's nothing else you can say. Another thing. But they do, they say that, I am from Canada. Yeah, another thing that was surprising to me is that there's actually less than 1,000 people who live there. Right. More people-
Starting point is 00:57:50 And the fact that I've met five is pretty amazing. More people went to Harnett Central High School than live in Canada. Than live in Canada. Right. Which is something that a lot of people don't know. I think one time they did get over 1,000, but it was just when somebody married an American, so they could get Canadian citizenship,
Starting point is 00:58:09 and then they both moved back to America because they were like, this is too cold, and now there's less than a thousand again. And if they eat Italian noodles up there, they call it pasta. Yeah. That's how they say it. Right. They say pasta. Yeah. That's how they say it. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:25 They say pasta. Yeah. I don't know why they do that. That's like, they're not, there are smart people, those, the thousand people, but that, people think that they're stupid because they say pasta. And they also refer to the female reproductive organs as poutine.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Right. Yep. Mm-outine. Right. Yep. All right. Which is really the best part about Canada. Poutine it in and taking it out. When I tell my wife that I'm in the mood for poutine. Poutine it in. She doesn't have to be a Canadian to know exactly
Starting point is 00:59:01 what I mean by that. Yeah. So yeah, we love Canada. You put in the gravy. Oh God, no, let it lay, man. Let it lay. Alright, I mean, I just wanna tell ya, if you wanna know anything, leave us a voicemail.
Starting point is 00:59:21 We love answering questions. Eight, eight, eight. Ear Pod One. Now, let's talk about this rec, because this is gonna be a rec, but also a discussion. Yeah. Again, it goes back to Jay, the best tour guide in the history of e-bikes,
Starting point is 00:59:37 maybe the best tour guide in the history of tour guiding. I gotta say so. He recommended, as we were asking many questions and let me just be honest with you at this point, you know, we were five middle-aged dads and I've noticed something happening to me. I was telling Jesse about this the other day, you know, I'll be 47 very soon.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And it's something about passing 45, I think. All of a sudden, I'm just really interested in history and I'm just finding myself becoming a dad and I just wanna read books about history. And I'm like, how the hell did I get here? Yeah, I mean, we've hated it for so long. Yeah, right, history, God. And you got me into this book, and are you saying this is my gateway drug to history?
Starting point is 01:00:30 Well, I've always loved natural history as a subject. Mm-hmm. And this book is a little bit of both, so... Well, when they call it Earth science, I'm like, oh, I like that. But when you call it natural history, I'm like, oh, I like that. But when you call it natural history, I'm like, ugh. Jay recommended the book by Steve Vanella. It's called American Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And I was familiar with Steve. He's a local guy. He's in Bozeman. Yeah, yeah, I think he's from Montana. And I had, you know, he's a... He lives in Bozeman. He's probably like... I don't know if he's from... One of the most popular outdoorsmen, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:06 in the world or whatever. So I've seen him on a number of things and always enjoyed hearing him talk, tell stories and stuff. So Jay recommended American Buffalo as a great resource. If he could tell that these dads were dadding so hard that the more history that they could find out about the Buffalo, the better.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Yeah. So he was like, you know, Ken Burns actually made a documentary about the American Buffalo, but I personally prefer Steve Rinella's book, American Buffalo. So that was when I was like, hey guys. In retrospect, you really can't compare the two because they're really not about the same thing. One's a documentary also, one's a book. Okay. I'm sure anything Kim Burns does is great, but I haven't watched it. So this is a much smaller time commitment too.
Starting point is 01:01:51 You can listen to American Buffalo in less than 10 hours. So I was like, hey guys, why don't we as a way to kind of continue to like have something to talk about as a group, why don't we all get this book and listen to it? You know, Greg had a big trip back home that he was driving, so he was gonna start it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I actually finished it like three days after we got back. But it's a great book. But you know, he's telling the story, the history of the buffalo, but he's also kind of weaving in the modern day story of him getting a buffalo tag, which is when you get a tag, you basically get a permit to hunt a buffalo.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And again, this is all like- In a certain part of Alaska. This is all like, the way that all this is, it really ties into the conversation we were having earlier, which is that, hunters play a really important role in, basically humans have come into the situation and F'd it up real bad, right?
Starting point is 01:02:55 And we've changed the balance of nature in a lot of ways. And one of the ways that we now have to, we actually, because we impacted it so much, we have to kind of keep doing some things to actually rectify some of the shit that we've reaped on nature. And one of the ways is actually, you have to cull some of these animals
Starting point is 01:03:15 in order for them not to just die horrible, starving deaths in the wild. So I don't know the ins and outs of it, but these, you, but basically these people are awarded tags to, and you get hardly any, right? Because they're trying to control the population. They're not trying to eliminate the population like they did back in the day.
Starting point is 01:03:37 So it's really unusual to get a tag. And he tells a story of getting the tag and then going on the hunt, which was crazy. And then tells a story of getting the tag and then going on the hunt, which was crazy. And then tells a story of how the buffalo basically became the buffalo and then became what it is today. And it's a fascinating story. There's some archeology
Starting point is 01:03:56 and I knew you were geeking out to that. Like finding the bones. I kept saying, we had that day after we were done tubing down the Madison River, which was an amazing experience, super relaxing and awesome, I kept saying, hey, when we go through Bozeman, there is a top notch dinosaur museum here. And I just said that, and I seen if anybody would perk up. I thought you were gonna be all over that. Be like, yeah, I wanna see some dinosaurs.
Starting point is 01:04:30 But I would be interested in it. But I think that, I think the thing that I actually am interested in is- Digging up a bone. Finding the bones. I don't wanna, the digging of the bone is a long process. it takes a while. Maybe you wanna find an arrowhead.
Starting point is 01:04:48 You get the interns to do that. I wanna find it and maybe like step in for a couple of like, a couple of photo ops. Okay, I get that. I'll join you for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Call me for the photo op. But yeah, I've enjoyed the book.
Starting point is 01:05:02 The thing that I've really liked about it is his ultra specific and've enjoyed the book. The thing that I've really liked about it is his ultra-specific and relatable descriptions of things that are foreign to me. Like, I've never hunted. I'm not really into that. I mean, I can appreciate the thrill of the hunt with the way that he describes it, but I can understand it because he'll say things like, it rattled, the sound of the so and so rattled like a box with one tick-tack. You know, it's like, oh, I know exactly what that sounds like. He has a knack for using these sort of analogous descriptions, which I really get a kick out of. Relatable terms.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Yeah, and it's, you know, it makes me want to start journaling my life and describing it in super descriptive ways. Like, that's my biggest takeaway from the book. I had one tic-tac left in my fanny pack. And this is what it sounded like. Well. You see, it sounded like. Well, You see, it's not gonna be,
Starting point is 01:06:06 He didn't actually have a tic tac at all. He was talking about something else. That was what was so cool about it. You could be like, I think maybe you could journal about the things that you experienced around Los Angeles. My wife said something's happening. She thought that these women were fornicating,
Starting point is 01:06:22 but it turns out one of them had had a seizure. We grabbed a Trader Joe's bag. I hope she's fine. There was green blood and red blood as we approached the body. Yeah, see, people would read that. And he was on a raft in a river with a guy named Rafferty, but he never acknowledged that.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That bothered me a little bit. Oh, he wanted you to make that discovery for yourself. Yeah, it's like leaving a little bit to the reader. I like that. So if you don't think you'd be into what we described, then you won't. You won't be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You won't be. But if you think you will be, then you will be. So you should listen to me. But I agree that you don't have to be an active... You know, some people just the idea of hunting is like,
Starting point is 01:07:07 it's a non-starter, I don't want to have a conversation about it, I don't want to hear anybody talk about it. I get that. I respect that. But you don't necessarily have to... And I'm closer to that, and I'm a little bit on that side of this. I mean, I hunted growing up, but I haven't done it in my adult life. But this book was... I'm not done. It's engaging.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah, it's just like there's something about the journey, right? It's a very specific journey with one very specific goal that is super relatable in the way that he tells the story. But again, history. I don't know. I'm in this history phase, man. I read that Chamber Divers thing, I've done the American Buffalo, and then I just started this Lost City of the Monkey God book or whatever, which is about some city in Honduras and the jungle
Starting point is 01:07:56 that all these people have tried to find. I guess it's a little bit history and a little bit like modern day adventure. Uh-huh. I'm kind of in that phase right now. I think this is all gonna culminate in us having to go on some grand adventure, I'm just telling you. I think you can... I like the sound of that. You can only read about this stuff so much before you're like,
Starting point is 01:08:17 well shit, we gotta go find something. So, I don't know, prepare yourself, man. Oh, I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay. You might have to bring two fanny packs, though. I have to. I'm ready. Oh, okay. I'm telling you. One for each side of the fanny. Yeah, I'm ready, man.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And for my new asshole that the bison gave me. Right, yeah. Alright, we'll talk to you next week, and in the meantime, don't forget about us. Hi, Rhett, Link, and Jenna. My name is Mandy. I live in Seattle. Big fan. That's my cat Theo, if you can hear him.
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