Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - The First Impressions We've Made | Ear Biscuits Ep. 364

Episode Date: January 9, 2023

As the great Head & Shoulders once said, you never get a second chance to make a first impression. In this episode, Rhett and Link asked fans and crew – "what was your first impression of us?" And boy, did they deliver. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/EAR and get on your way to being your best self. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Link. And I'm Rhett. This year at the round table of dim lighting is 2023. Fresh. And we are going to get started with the first episode of 2023 by talking about first impressions and specifically first impressions that people, mostly you people, have had of us. And this is really what I hope will be a way for us to learn some lessons about how, you know,

we put ourselves out there over the years in many different forms, and we've been received in many different ways as you will see, and see if we can learn anything. Maybe if we need to make any adjustments or just at least- We're still making first impressions. Information. Hopefully. Information is good.

All information is good. Take it and do what you will with it. Well, information exists. What you do with it determines if it was good or not. Yeah, you can do good things with it. Well, information exists. What you do with it determines if it was good or not. Yeah, you can do good things with information. And you know what? I think it's just fun to think about first impressions. So as we're talking about ours,

maybe you want to think about the first impressions that you make on people. One of my favorite slogans of any product, the one that just really stands out for me is, you never get a second chance to make a first impression. Of course, I don't know what product that is. Head and shoulders, right? Or cells in blue.

See, you don't know. I thought it was big red gum. See, it doesn't matter. No, no, no, no, no. It's a dandruff shampoo. I am 90% sure of that. 90% sure that's a dandruff shampoo. I am 90% sure of that, 90% sure of this, a dandruff shampoo. Okay. And it's probably Head & Shoulders.

Well, Head & Shoulders is like, but you don't have dandruff. Exactly. And if they also did, you never get a second chance to make a first impression, they did. Head & Shoulders is the best, it's the best product. On the planet. It's the best product on the planet.

I don't know if it works, but. Oh, I still, I use, everybody asks me all the time, what do you do to get your hair? I use Head and Shoulders Conditioner. Oh wow, not a sponsor. I use Head and Shoulders Supreme, which is their like one that doesn't have the weird stuff in it.

And Elise Meyers uses it as a face wash. Oh really? And swears by it on TikTok. Hey, it's good, man. I like that Pythian zinc. I think it's one of the best slogans. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. I don't know if they came up with it.

That's true. I think they just commandeered it. It's true, man. And it's so powerful and you never know. I mean, you can't control what people think of you. So like, you know, I don't want to go overboard in this thing, but it's nice to know how you're perceived, in my opinion. But it's really hard to know sometimes.

When you have a longstanding relationship with somebody, like we have with Mythical Beast, and by the way, a few employees who wrote in, who called in and left voicemails. It's fun to then- We might have to get Jenna's opinion on this too. And Jenna too. Since she's here.

It's fun to hear what people, you know, now that we know each other really well, what did you think of me the first time we met? I don't, you know, ask, ask the people you care about now, about back before they knew that they cared about you, what did they think of you, you know? Could be fun, could be fun.

I tend to not like the fact that that is true because I tend to, one of the things I believe about myself is that I consistently do not make a good first impression. Okay. In what way? I just, you know, I have a, you might say that I don't come across as warm.

Yeah, I don't, when I meet somebody for the first time, I'm in very much sort of a observational standpoint and I'm not trying to get them to think anything about me. And then about, and then like halfway through the evening, I'm like, oh, maybe I should have done something to make this person think a certain way about me. So you were just assessing your first impression of them, not realizing that your face was just very concentrated.

I think a lot of times when I'm meeting somebody, my thought process is, honestly, is this person worth the investment of like, Oh, wow. you know, me committing to whatever, more with them, whatever that more is, you know? Well, more friendship, more business relationship. Maybe another way to say it is, is there something here?

You know, it seems like, I don't think you're making a value judgment. I think, so I'm asking a clarifying question. Do you mean like, is there something here? Could we be fill in the blank? Friends, business partners, whatever the nature of the conversation is in the context of it, kind of, the blank will be filled in different ways. But isn't that kind of what you're saying is like, is there something here? Is there some sort of chemistry? It takes a lot. Or am I wrong? No, this is how I understand it.

It's not specifically that. It's that it takes me kind of getting to a certain level of comfort with someone before I'm like, I'm gonna show you the real Rhett. And it might take meeting you a few times before I do that. And that's not just a, are you worth the investment? Sometimes it's that, like we've talked many times about how the, like I especially am not,

like I'm not trying to be funny most of the time unless I'm in entertainment mode. Now, most of the time that means there's a camera. Sometimes that means there's a group of people who I think could benefit from me being entertaining. But like, it takes me, I have to make a conscious decision, like, all right, you're gonna go into that mode, this mode of like, I'm a guy that will say

and do funny things. But me just, my natural disposition is not that. My natural disposition is I am present and if you ask me a question, I will answer it. I'll talk to you about anything. I'll talk to anyone about anything. I'm not reserved in that way, but I am reserved in terms of like-

Giving yourself to somebody. Yeah. And so- That makes sense. Jessie gets frustrated with me sometimes because she's got somebody that she wants me to meet and she'll have to be like, now you need to like try with them. Turn on.

Or like be warm to them, you know? And it's not that I'm cold. It's just that when you're not especially warm, you can be perceived as cold. Especially when your resting face is more of a, how would I describe it? Bitch? No, no, just look at me. Rest your face and look at me.

But be engaged. Like your brow furrows and you're in deep thought. You seem to be in like, it does seem to be like, oh my gosh, what is this guy thinking? I'm gonna throw that one right back at you because most of the time me and you- No, we can talk about me. Me and you are in a Zoom meeting.

I look at you and at me and I realize that both of us are looking at the person like this. Furrowed brows. I mean, especially a meeting, yeah. When it comes to a meeting, we're concentrating and we're thinking. And I'm like, man- We're in our brains. I would not want these two guys

to be looking at me like that. And I try to then soften my face a little bit. And then I realized that I just don't, what do you, then I just felt like I'm falling asleep. One of the best things that came out of the pandemic for me was that I can be in a meeting and look at myself exclusively. No, but seriously, I can learn things about myself like that.

It's like, if you've been on Zoom calls for these past two and a half years, and you haven't learned anything about the energy you're putting out into the world, yeah, you need to observe yourself a little bit. Now, I didn't change as much as maybe I thought I should, but yeah, you alter yourself a little bit. It's like, oh, I need to turn up

the corners of my mouth a little bit. Well, if somebody is like- I need to be a supportive, active listener. Or like pitching an idea or something. Especially if they're talking to us. Like nodding their head a little bit. Do you know there's AI now that you can use as a plugin on Zoom that keeps your eyes in contact

with the camera no matter what you do? There's a guy on TikTok who demonstrated it. That's awesome. And so, and he's, it's like a plug-in. Potentially freaky. But it looks completely normal. So he's just like, kind of like doing stuff. But what if you look down all the way?

Well, I don't want you to repeat anything. Your phone. I had you on, now if I have it on do not disturb, doesn't that mean that Siri shouldn't disturb me? Definitely. Well, how come she didn't get the message? She's in the phone. I don't have a relationship with Siri.

Well, I try not to. That was unintentional. Just break up with Siri right now. I don't know how you do that. I wasn't, I mean, when I said I was gonna look at your face, I wasn't, you know, I know you probably thought I was gonna give you a cheap shot, but I didn't. I'm really interested in this.

I think that you are, that it was just, it's a level of intensity that could be intimidating. I mean, when you combine it with height and like the bigness of the beard and hair, but we can switch to me. For me, I think my first impressions probably just run the gamut because it's so mood based for me when i'm meeting people for the first time i think it has it's it's so much what vibe i'm in like i don't know if i'm If I'm, I will just exude whatever my emotions are.

Like, and I am being like, and I will take it up a notch. Like, so it's not just I'm being myself. It's like whatever self I am in kind of in that, that day or that night, I think I, that's what I, that's the energy that I try to harness that into social interaction. And sometimes, yeah, sometimes it comes off. Funny anecdote about this. We were recently in a setting of really interesting people together. Interesting people. And the guy from West Coast Customs.

Oh yeah. And his entire family were in this small gathering, basically. And I saw you talking to him and the family for an extended period of time. And then I was like, I'm gonna go see what Hoot Link's talking to. So I go over there.

And within 20 seconds, the wife of West Coast Customs guys was like, your friend is a dick. So I thought that was pretty interesting. We had developed a rapport. Yeah, I could tell she was saying it. She was joking. Uh, we had developed a rapport. Yeah, I could tell she was saying it. She was joking. She was being funny, but like she was commenting on your, She was very feisty. Your, I don't even have,

I haven't yet come up with a word for it, but how would you describe it? Projecting because she was a dick. Okay. Yep. And I really liked her for it. Like, I mean, she was a dick. Okay. Yep, and I really liked her for it. Like, I mean, she was dishing it out as much as she was taking it, let me tell you that. And I think she started it.

Oh, so you think it's for, if somebody's giving it to you? She entered the conversation late, and so her family introduced her to me, is how I remember it, as like, oh, we know who this guy is. And she's like, I don't know who you are. But that's how the conversation started.

So I was like, okay, I see where we're going with this. Two can play this game. I kinda like this. So yeah, we were both doing it. So because that, in that particular instance, I was very much in a playful mode. Wherever you're going to go with this, I'm going to go with it.

But if I'm in kind of a grumpy zone, yeah, I might be a little too sarcastic with people. And there's lots of times when I come back from stuff where I've met a number of people for the first time, some sort of mixer party type scenario. And I just sit there and just think about what everybody thinks of me and how, and I just, I start to feel bad and I'm like,

did I get their number so that I can apologize? Like these things happen to me a lot. Or like, so I do try to, I'm trying to be more aware of that. But for the most, I think for the most part, I err on the side of like being more winsome, but maybe too extra. And I'm definitely talking like party zone at this point.

Cause that's where you meet people for the first time a lot of times. Unless you're putting content out on the internet and people are just watching you for, and then you're just, obviously, we've done everything. When we put stuff out there on the show, we're trying to make the best first impression because we want more mythical beasts. Right? But at the same time. That's a different thing. I would say that the filter with which we, the filter that we apply to what goes on the internet is way different than it was 10 years ago.

Definitely. I mean, I was talking to Jesse the other night. I'd rather much more be myself now than win over a fan who thinks I'm somebody I'm not. And I think that people respond positively to that. I don't, and I'm not talking- Took a long time to get there. I'm not. And I think that people respond positively to that. And I'm not talking- Took a long time to get there. I'm not talking about, that's true,

the vulnerability piece of it, but that's actually not what I'm talking about. Okay. What I'm talking about is if you go back 10 years, we curated every single thing that we put on the internet because we were putting a lot less on the internet. Now with a podcast, with a daily show, and then an after show.

Yeah. We're not constantly trying to be exactly who we think that, I mean, we're being ourselves a lot. Packaged. And as has been evidenced many, many times, lots of people don't like me or you or us, and that because they've made a decision that, oh, I don't like this aspect of them,

and that's just a part of putting yourself out on the internet. Right. And then when it comes to, you know, even pictures, you know, cause sometimes Jessie and I would like go to an event and we've got pictures that we're then posting and she's like, you know, if I'm gonna post pictures that have me and her in it, well, she, because she has not put herself out

nearly as much as I have on the internet. And also I think it, my particular opinion is that women have a much harder time on the internet than men because they are constantly objectified and criticized and put into, and you know, their physical appearance is pointed out much more quickly than it is for a man. So that whole thing for her is like,

I'm going to approve, like she's going to look and make sure that the pictures of her that are going up on my feed are ones that she approves. When she asked me that question, I'm like, baby, people have seen me. I mean, I am a meme for a man with and without a beard. Like the worst thing I, like I might as well just have the,

the most unflattering things you could ever see from me, angles, expressions, everything. It's on the internet for everyone to see. You never need to approve any photo of me that goes up. And that's changed a little bit, a little bit every single year. Even stuff, you remember, we used to approve every single photo that would go out officially

through a mythical thing. Like this is gonna be on a banner. Now sometimes we still do that. Like if it's gonna be like the YouTube banner, oh, I kinda want a photo that I kinda think I look better than not. Yeah. But more often than not, it's just like,

oh, there's another thing that is going, there's another merch picture. I quit looking at them because I don't like the way I look 90% of the time, so I've just kind of let go of that. Yeah. There's nowhere to hide for us. It's kind of a good thing. So I think that in some ways I've just,

my, I don't know, I think differently about first impressions in general now because there's so many different versions that have gone out there. Yeah, when it comes to our public persona, but back to like the interpersonal, like am I meeting someone who's gonna be a friend and am I about to screw it up

and short circuit the whole thing? I would just summarize it for me as, I don't wanna be misinterpreted as a jerk. And I definitely don't want to actually be a jerk. And both of those things could happen sometimes. Not, but it's the minority of, this is a really small minority where I'm actually a jerk. And then there's a good piece of the pie

that's still less, I mean, I'd say, I don't know what percentage it is. I would hope it's 25% of the time or less, like hopefully less than 20% of the pie is, I actually mean well, but I'm easily misinterpreted or easily interpreted as being a jerk. But then a lot of times it's just like, okay, this dude is a nice guy.

Or I don't know what, a something guy. That's my thing. I don't want to be interpreted as a jerk. What about you? What are you most concerned about? I think that my philosophy is if this is someone that I want there to be something more like, oh, this is somebody I would want to be something more like, oh, this is somebody I would wanna be a friend with,

or this is someone we would want to work with or whatever. I think my philosophy is, most likely if I just was myself without trying, and also even if I was understated and didn't say a whole lot, like that person probably has the wherewithal to pick up on the things about me that they like. And again, if I think that this is something worth pursuing,

I feel like there could be a more intentional second interaction. Like I actually don't put a lot of stock in the first impression. I'm not saying that it's not true, but I'm saying that I don't live my life as if the first impression is super important because I know that I'm not true, but I'm saying that I don't live my life as if the first impression is super important because I know that I'm not good at them.

And I haven't had any experience ever where I had a interaction with somebody that I really liked and then I wasn't able to continue that or further it because of something I did wrong the first time we got together. Okay, well, that's good. Just remember, you never get a second chance to make a second impression either.

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Wherever you go, we'll go together. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Visit amex.ca slash yamx. Benefits vary by card. Terms apply. Alright, let's just start here. Hey, what's up, Rittenlink? This is Richard. I'm calling from Las Vegas, Nevada.

I'm such a huge, huge, huge, huge fan of Rittenlink and Good Mythical Morning and you guys are just so freaking hilarious. Anyways, I'm calling about your most recent tweet that you guys put out. Do you remember

the first time you saw us on the internet? Yeah. I remember it very, very vividly. I was scrolling through a link aggregator website called Gorilla Links. And it was just a thumbnail of you two, Rhett and Link, sitting in a polar ranch. And I just thought it was so unique and so weird.

I decided to click on it. it went to your YouTube video. And from that day, I fell in love with you. You guys are so freaking hilarious, keep doing what you're doing. I'm gonna keep listening to Ear Biscuits, I'm gonna keep watching the show. Okay, yeah, okay, that got weird. It sounded like he was gonna say handsome.

That got weird. I was gonna say, when he said hilarious, I It sounded like he was gonna say handsome. That got weird. I just gotta say, when he said hilarious, I just feel like he was about to, you know, I feel like he was gonna say handsome. We accept the love, you know, if you see two guys in ranch, a tub full of ranch, like all the way up over their faces, that's quite a first impression.

And for him, that's exactly what he needed to fall in love. Cause I some people would see that and be like i'm not in i'm not interested in that you know i mean frankly uh if i saw that i would not want more like me personally but did we get any of those but a lot of people did want more hi written link my name is donna um i wanted to share the first time I saw you guys on the internet. My boyfriend got a link to one of your videos. It happened to be the Will It Meatloaf episode. And he was watching it. I happened to walk in right as you guys were trying the Taco Bell meatloaf. And I remember thinking it was the grossest thing I had ever seen. I was like, what the heck?

Who the heck are these guys? This is so disgusting. I thought it was so stupid. And then kind of lo and behold we just randomly started watching you guys and since then I think I've watched every single episode and gone back to catch up on all the other ones too. So, you

know, not the best first reactions, you know, first impression, but I do love you guys. And now I get it. Now I understand in the moment I did it. But yeah, I will never forget that. So hope you guys have a great day. Disgusting and stupid.

That was her first impression. Yeah. And somehow we won her over. Like that, hey, that feels pretty good. I mean, it doesn't get worse. I mean, those are some pretty, pretty bad terms. Well, I also think it's probably the most common first impression.

We do less disgusting now, but- But I'm saying that- Stupid, it's pretty par for the course. I think if you go back to the period of time in which we were gaining subscribers at the highest rate we ever had, which is like 14, 15, when the algorithm was changing and all that. And so it was just like rewarding our content and suggesting it to everybody. That was when we were kind of in the heyday of hot peppers and gross stuff. Yeah.

And that was when it really worked. It doesn't work nearly as well anymore. And so I think that if you just do like an evaluation of the fan base, I think that this first impression is probably the most common. Like if you had to group it into like, they were doing something stupid. Disgusting and stupid?

Yeah, disgusting and stupid. Yeah. I mean, that could have been the name of the show. It could have been the name of us. Yeah. Which one do you want to be? But we couldn't be contained by those two terms, Rhett. Let's see this one. This hasn't hurt too bad yet.

Hi Rhett and Link. My first impression of you guys was introduced to me when I was in high school. I was in youth group at the time, and my youth minister would play your guys' videos during our youth group. And I remember the first time he played a video, he kind of advertised it as, this is stuff like we would do at youth group, like playing silly games or eating weird food. So, and it's funny now to know your guys' journey through deconstruction and also

mine. So anyway, thanks. Bye. Yeah. I think that the, I don't know how to feel about this because I'm sure that there's many a youth pastor out there who has a lot of regrets. Maybe not. For introducing our content into their youth curriculum. But we put out a lot of youth group energy.

I mean, that was an era. We did. I mean, because we came from youth group energy. So yeah, even though we never said, we want to make Good Mythical Morning like a, like a youth group with two guys who aren't allowed in the youth groups anymore because of their age. And now I guess because of their beliefs, but yeah,

I was very self-conscious about putting out that youth pastor energy. I'm glad she didn't go that far. It's like, these guys are just like me, you know? Well, I think we hit the youth pastor energy pretty hard for a pretty long time. I mean, listen. Talk about first impressions of like other YouTubers

that we were meeting. I bet if we go back and ask them that, they may not have those words, but like when we started meeting YouTubers, everybody like would try to figure us out. And they were like, I think it came down to youth pastor energy. But here's the thing I gotta say,

that now that we're in Los Angeles, that if you were to survey a group of people in Los Angeles and you were to give them multiple choice as to what we do for a living, and you gave youth pastor, I mean, look at what you've got on. Look what I've got. I mean, especially what you've got on, right?

Those glasses and your hair. Okay. And even what you've got on. Look what I've got. I mean, especially what you've got on, right? Those glasses and your hair. Okay. And even what I've got on, like, if you're talking like metro area youth pastor. Really? We're still, because they're, yeah, we're still, because anyone who looks like they're trying to not look their age,

that's the quintessential sign of a youth pastor. If you have, if you come from that world. If you do that in the South, you're gonna look a certain way, you know? Yeah. If you do that in Los Angeles, you're gonna look, I mean, obviously I would say this is a cool look, but I'm saying that that,

but it looks like somebody who's trying to look cool. And I'm saying I do the same thing. That is, that's youth pastor energy. That's like West Coast youth pastor energy. I hate that you're telling me this. I'm just saying you can't get away from it because- But it's in the eye of the beholder. It's in the behind of the beholder.

Yeah, I'm not saying you should change anything or I should change anything. I don't know what they do in your youth group, but hopefully not that. But I feel like that is the, that's what youth pastor energy is, is someone who is hanging out with kids a lot and trying to kind of appeal to them

by the way they dress and the way they do their hair, whatever. I just want to be on record to say, every fashion choice I'm making now is only to appeal to myself. Okay. And you're a youth pastor. Need a great reason to get up in the morning? Well, what about two?

Right now, get a small organic fair trade coffee and a tasty bacon and egg or breakfast sandwich for only $5 at A&W's in Ontario. Here we go. Hey, Rhett and Link. The first time that I saw y'all was probably back in 2012. And the first impression that I remember having is, man, these guys should get new haircuts. And eventually that did happen. So congratulations on evolution. These guys should get new haircuts. What year did she. So congratulations on evolution. These guys should get new haircuts. What year did she say?

2012? Yeah. Yeah, we've had some low points. Here's a good follow-up, I think. Hey, Red Link. It's me, Daniel. Been watching you guys for a while. I just wanted to say, I forgot where you guys at.

I don't know. What did I think when I saw yours on that well I first saw you guys when you started trending like 2015 so back then I must have been like 12 13 oh the one thing I remember is at the time I had a bowl cut and this was before 2016 so before Link had cut his hair. So I remember watching it and being like, man, Link is just like me. That is so cool. He's got a bowl cut just like me. He's awesome.

He's not a bowl cut. It wasn't a bowl cut. He's got glasses. And that made me feel good about having glasses. And that was really cool but Rhett Rhett was like

Rhett was crazy he was like that guy I wanted to be you know but Link was like the guy I was they were awesome too this dude didn't even remember the prompt at the beginning of this.

I went and linked on a haircut. And yeah, I love both of you guys. All right, bye. I'm never going to forget. Rhett was the guy I wanted to be and Link was the guy that I was. How does he feel now? I would like to know. He said he loves us both, man.

All right, let's go to some employees. I'm really gonna hold onto that. So Mike Dad Magic Paisley called in. We do not know what he said. Hey, this is Mike Paisley calling from cloudy Burbank, California. And I'm talking about the first time I met Rhett and Link. It was almost 10 years ago, and they were two YouTubers that I'd never

heard of, but they were a big-ass deal at the time because they had almost 2 million subscribers, and so when they came to the Digital Twigs studio downtown, we were very excited to meet these big-time YouTubers, and they brought Stevie, their producer, and they brought their wives and they brought their kids. And it totally took out all of the like anxiety of meeting these like, uh, these YouTube guys. Cause they just seem like regular dudes with kids. And it was a really charming experience. And so, um, I never really liked him though. I, uh, ever since that day, I wish I hadn't encountered them. JK, JK. That's my story about meeting Rhett and Link for the first time. It was great, and I'll never forget it.

I'll never forget it either. Yeah, because we knew that they were going to do, they were working on the intro for the mythical show, which was the stop-motion animation, and we were like, this is going to be super cool. It's so cool. Go back and watch it. Let's bring all of our families to this studio, this little studio that they had.

Yeah, cause they were building it all practically as like this, as like scale models of like a tree growing out of a volcano, an underground volcano. And like, yeah, Paisley was so kind like to show our kids like how everything worked and it was awesome. It was awesome. And now, you know, all these years later,

he's, we got him all to ourselves, working for us. Well, before you move to the next one, you're moving pretty quickly. My impression of you right now is that you're moving through these very quickly and we're not talking about them just so you know. Oh, okay. Going back to the youth pastor thing,

not what we were talking about, but a very real thing that we've talked about is the impression that we have, and you might remember the details of this, but like conversations that we have had with people that we met back in those earlier days, that we have had with people that we met back in those earlier days, where there was a kind of this undercurrent,

a little bit of tension. You know, I talked with Pete Holmes about this because I went back on his podcast to talk about human overboard. And we were talking about the first time that we came on the show, which was at the end of 2019, before we told our deconstruction story publicly in 2020 on this podcast. Right, right.

And we actually talked about it on the podcast. He was like, yeah, there was this sort of, I can't remember the word that he used to describe it, but when you know that someone wants to be able to talk about something, but then doesn't, that was a certain energy, but I'm actually saying, go back to those early days. And really this was mostly when we were in North Carolina

and then the very early days in California where we were both still identifying as Christians. And even as I was like coming out of that in like 2012, 2013, I still, I was sort of like coming out of it in an intellectual way, but in terms of just the way my brain worked and the way I saw the world, a lot of that was still kind of intact.

And so we kind of bring like a suspicion to people of the world, you know what I'm saying? And even in some of those early ear biscuits where we would interview with somebody, interview somebody and we're asking them these questions, but then not disclosing. Can you remember any of the conversations that we've had in subsequent years about,

"'Hey, how did we come across? Did we, because I remember somebody telling us that, yeah, you guys had some like holy energy or something. I can't remember how it was described, but I think that was something that I have since been able to observe and not just, I'm not gonna single out anybody of a particular faith, but anyone who has an agenda and that agenda is,

I want you to think like me and I want you to agree with me. And this is something that everyone, including myself, falls into on a pretty regular basis. I've gotten much better at it. I'm trying to get better at it. But when you kind of bring that into a conversation, it's pretty palpable. Yeah.

That can color a first impression. Well, I mean, being raised in the evangelical belief system by definition is you want to win people over. Like you believe that Jesus actually commanded you to do that, to make disciples, so to speak, well, and to use the terms. So, you know. And it will be for this person's benefit as well.

And it's, and you're not doing it for you. It's like, so all of a sudden a first impression gets wrapped up in like, there's this level of self-awareness that, okay, I am different in some ways. One of the most easy ways that you can notice at first okay, I am different in some ways. One of the most easy ways that you can notice at first are like, okay, how clean my language is, or the things that I am not going to do.

Maybe that's not drink for some people, or maybe it's not dance for some religious people. So there's these certain ways where you start to, you have to be aware if you want to, you want to make a positive impression because you want to represent your relationship with God in a way that wins people over, that entices people. These are literally things that Paul talks about in the Bible. This is how you need to go about your life, in a way that helps people by winning them over to the cause of the faith. So you're aware of these things where you stick out as different. And, you know, you get to, I think for me, I developed a little bit of a complex on that front because it's, first impression is not just about are people going to like me, but are people going to like God? That's a lot of pressure, you know? and are the things that make me different,

it's so hard for it just not to imply judgment, like silent judgment. I'm not, no, I don't do that. I mean, if somebody has been sober for years and they say, you know what, I'm sober or I'm in recovery or whatever terms they use. It's very clear that it's about, this is my process and it kind of short circuits judgment. You know, we weren't-

But if it's I don't do that. I don't do that. As a moral. I don't do that as a, just a moral thing then- So you doing it is immoral. How could it, so- Is the implication. It was so hard to have that conversation and it didn't seem like an effective way in that you just find yourself hoping that nobody notices.

And that's the complex. I think that dynamic is actually still very present and probably more present than ever in our culture. And I don't think that it is. So we related to that context from a Christian standpoint, but I think that in America, we're so politically polarized at this point. Interesting.

That if you're somebody on the left and you're talking to somebody on the right and you find out that they're on the right, it's very difficult for you to not have immediate judgment in your words and your face as you're interacting with them and vice versa. Vice versa. Vice versa, yeah.

I don't like to do the both sides thing. I am on one side of this. You know, I'm on the left side. But the psychology of it plays both ways. Yeah, and I think that it actually is something that has really short-circuited what could be fruitful conversations between people, I think,

is that there is this like, okay, because you identify, and this is a new phenomenon. Like I've been reading a lot about just like people who are really studying polarization right now because it is more pronounced than it has been in the recent past. I mean, sure, maybe way back in the day,

but like it's super pronounced right now. And there's good reason, I'm not saying that, I mean, sure, maybe way back in the day, but like it's super pronounced right now. And there's good reason, I'm not saying that, you know, oh, abandon your principles, but in terms of immediately categorizing somebody as, okay, if you identify in this way, then I can assume all these different things about you. And I actually cannot have a meaningful dialogue with you. And I'm gonna judge every single thing you say,

and I'm gonna judge every single thing you say and I'm gonna judge every single thing you do versus see, oh, you know what? Most likely you are also a human person who based on your own intuition and your circumstances and your environment and your psychological disposition came to these conclusions that you are currently at and they may be different than mine, but you're still a human,

and we're still all in this together. How do we have a fruitful conversation? It's just, it's something that you don't experience very often out here because this is a pretty homogenous political environment in Los Angeles. But it's something that, you go back to the home in North Carolina, I was actually talking to my brother about this.

I was like, you know, you live in a super purple place, you know, like, you know, and you kind of forget that when you live in a super red or super blue place, you kind of forget about those very, very purple places like these Southern Metro areas, where on a daily basis, you're gonna have meaningful interactions and you're also going to have to have meaningful,

meaningful like collaborations with people from all over the spectrum. Like you have to do meaningful things. You have to get things done. You have to have an interaction with somebody. You have to purchase something from somebody. You have to do a deal with someone. You have to work with or work for.

You have to work with. Yeah. And if you're just gonna be like, oh, you're on do a deal with someone. You have to work with or work for. You have to work with. Yeah. And if you're just gonna be like, oh, you're on the other end of this spectrum, a spectrum that I believe stands for everything that is wrong and is everything that is wrong with our country and everything that is evil in our country, that energy comes across.

It just comes across in your interactions. In the same way that our energy of like, well, this is who we are and this is what we believe about things. And because I've been on both sides of that, I'm just, you know, I'm trying to be conscious of it in a way because the point I think is to have a meaningful dialogue

and to arrive at how are we gonna move forward, you know? Yeah, and I think there are a lot of people who like to be put in a box if it's their box, but I personally don't like that because I'm not so firmly, I don't know, it just as a concept of not being taken as an individual human that has, with all of the complexities is just not, it's, that's not a place. That's, that's not how I want to be received.

Um, but I think that it's for, apparently for some people they do. Yeah. On, on, on whatever extreme, right? That's what the, that's, that's what defines the extreme in my opinion. Is that like,

yeah, I, this is my box and I, and I want you to know it. I want it to be the first thing you know about me. If I, you know, uh,

that's never really been who, who, who I wanted to be. And I'm not really interested in that place because you don't feel like you can, you know, no, you're not, there's not, talk about active listening, you know? If the first thing you say is, my identity is my box, like then, oh, I mean, that could sound very interesting.

My identity is my ideology. My identity is my ideology. It's like, well, okay, do I really wanna keep talking to you? If it's like, if that's it, if it's that simple, like even if I don't wanna change your mind, even if I just want to interact with you as a person, you know, it's just not appealing to me.

Yeah. But I do think there's a lot of people who that's not the case and who you disagree with about things and it's that that's yeah i mean going back to the purple living in the purple place you know it's i think that's something we don't benefit from you know there? There's benefits to it, you know? And I end up saying things like, you know, maybe this is the reason I'm glad to live where I live, because it just makes it easier.

But I don't know, there's something good about being challenged, right? Well, I think it's the nature of a democracy, it's the nature of our country. Right, there's a health to it. And it has functioned in a generally positive manner for most of the history of our country. And we've moved from kind of a dark place to a less dark place.

Like that's the general progression that we have moved and it has come through the push and pull. And hopefully that's a trajectory. Of progressivism and conservatism, sort of like stretching the cultural blanket across time. And so right now we're kind of in a place where the cultural blanket has been ripped apart and we're just two sides just standing there

kind of looking at each other, holding one half of the country. And it's just like, well, how do we get this thing back together and keep moving it? Because we have been moving towards equality for more people. That is the general disposition of humanity and culture over time.

And that's why I'm on the progressive side, because I want to keep pulling the blanket, but I don't want to pull it so hard that it tears or it comes out of the conservatives hands. Because at that point we'd have no longer a functional democracy. It's not easy to do, but I think that the moment we just rip it away and we're like,

we're not even the same people anymore. Well, yeah, but we're still both citizens of the same country and you have this, your vote has the same power that my vote has. And what does it do me more good to sit there and make fun of you and call you an idiot or me to have a constructive dialogue with you? If I think that I've got the right point on this,

don't I wanna maintain some kind of connection so I can have a conversation? I'm not saying to compromise your beliefs. I'm just saying, how do you maintain a conversation? It's true to say it the other way too. Can you sit there and call me an idiot and then expect me to actually listen to anything you have to say, right? Right, yeah. It goes both ways.

Yeah. Okay. You wanna keep going? I think we've officially pissed off as many people as we possibly could. How did that piss off anybody? Because anytime- I just feel like we didn't take a stand on anything-

Exactly. Except- Except that people should work together, but that pisses off people on both sides. That's the problem we're in right now. Okay, so now we're pissing off everybody on the extreme. Everybody. Both extremes. Okay, I'm fine with that. But we are a country of extremes. That's where're in right now. Yeah, okay, so now we're pissing off everybody on the extreme, both extremes. Okay, I'm fine with that.

But we are a country on the extremes. That's where we are right now. That's all I'm saying. So by trying to say, is there some way that we can work together and move things forward? You're gonna piss both sides off. I'm just saying that's the state that we're in right now. I wish I could quote, of course, you know,

who am I gonna quote right now if I could, but I can't. Bono, when he was on Brene Brown's podcast Back in December it I Mean he talks he I mean in like a little a one little question. He talks about this And he kind of has this he has his own theory about Centrism it's interesting. I'm not gonna I can't quote it but it's like it And he kind of has this, he has his own theory about centrism. It's interesting. I'm not going to, I can't quote it.

But it's like it, there's a reflection of that in this. So like, hey, I feel like, I feel like there's some, there's some people that I can harbor with. Bono, he's a good guy. He's a good guy to, for a little safe harbor. Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card of up to $200

on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. I want to go to another kg called in now kg is relative um she was she's not a relative she's a mythical crew member i didn't know that she's a she she's worked with this relatively short amount of time less than a year i believe yeah so i mean let's see what she said.

Hey, yo, it's your girl KG. And my first impression came from when I started watching you guys in college. I used to watch you guys all four years, every morning, right before I got ready for class. And the first impression I got off was these goofy, silly, curious guys that gave off the comforting dad vibes. And that's why I would usually watch you guys because the positive vibes you gave off the videos was just amazing. And it really helped me through all four years of college. And when I first met y'all, it was my second day at work and I was in the zone doing my start paperwork. And I could see from the corner of my eye in the bullpen that two figures just like stopped and I looked up and it's right in link and I internally I'm freaking out and links like oh you're the new PA because they just sent out an email welcoming me into the

company the day before I was like yeah it's me my name is Carolina and other people call me KG and it was funny seeing them attempt to say my name. But I was like, no, it's good. Like, you can call me KG. Just call me KG. Sometimes people call me Kevin Garnett. Just to make a joke, Rhett thought it was funny. Then we started talking about basketball. And then they welcomed me.

I was like, so excited to see your work and, like, happy that you're here. And it was just very welcoming. So the impression I got while watching their videos really like met with the in-person impression, which is just insane because I looked up to you guys in college and it's just crazy to work with y'all. So yeah, I think the impression from watching you guys really met up to in-person.

Thanks, KG. Too nice. Jenna, come on. You gotta give us some dirt because I mean like Pais, too nice. Jenna, come on. You gotta give us some dirt because, I mean like Paisley was nice, KG was nice. No other employees called in. I can't believe no one else called in. Okay.

People are frayed. Yeah. I'll share the dirt. Cause we met, I we met at a bar. We met at a bar. Yeah. I had submitted an application to work as your personal assistant. And we had set up a meeting in like a week, a week later or so.

Yeah. Your interview. Yeah, your interview. Yeah, my interview. But then Laura, my best friend, who was doing makeup on the show, invited me as her plus one to your end of year holiday party. And I was like, okay, they're going to be there.

In my head, I'm just like, I swear if they make me do some sort of interview at this party, it's going to be a no. It's going to be an absolutely immediate no for me. And so I show up. A no to take the job? Okay, just keep going. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

I was like, I'm just going to go to a party. I'm going to a party. We're not going to talk about how I'm interviewing with them in a week. I'm just going to a party i'm going to a party we're not going to talk about how that i'm interviewing with them in a week we're just i'm just going to a party so i show up and then you two are like one of the first two people that i see there and so i introduced myself and i was like hi i'm jenna and immediately link is like hey we should do the interview now and i was like i'm about to say you think that he's not going to do that? And I go, absolutely not. I immediately was like, absolutely not. This is your party.

You should have fun. I know I'm going to have fun. Let's do our interview another time. At the regularly scheduled time. And that was the end of it. And that was the end of it. And I was like, okay, great. They didn't mind me saying no.

And they didn't mind. And they understand work-life balance. I was like, this is good. This is a good first step. I pushed back. And they were like, you're right. Cool. And I was like, all right.

Okay. I could probably work for these guys. But then my whole thing at the party was getting to know Jesse and Christy. I was like, I was. Good strategy. That always helps. Well, for me, I just, in the past assistant jobs that I had, some were quite intense, and it was very much,

there was no work-life balance. And some old bosses' partners were less than kind to me. Oh, I didn't mean to laugh. It's true. I'm sorry, Jenna. They were less than kind. So I was like, okay, if their wife's going to be there, I'm going to get to know Jesse and Chrissy.

If we get along, I'm going to give this a shot. I'm going to give this a shot with these guys. Because I wasn't really applying to- You were really looking to say no at every turn. I was. Yeah, I was. Yeah, you didn't want to get wrapped up in another bad situation. Yeah, I didn't want to get wrapped up.

I wasn't looking to be an assistant again, because I didn't want to get in another i i wasn't looking to uh be an assistant again because i didn't want to get in another bad situation but i was like i don't know these guys sound cool i never heard of you before the um laura showed me your so dang dark video and i was like oh that's fun that's creative that's uh interesting like i like i like that style uh it's my favorite song of yours now, honestly. But when I said, and that was the end of it, I was actually being facetious because I, I, I swear I remember interviewing you at the party. No. Like I remember sitting next to you.

You sat down with me and I was like, don't talk about this. And then we started talking a little bit and I was like. You had a conversation. It was a conversation. It wasn't like a hardcore interview. Okay. So we had a, we had a little power dynamic. was like, oh boy. You had a conversation but- It was a conversation, it wasn't like a hardcore interview. Okay, so we had a little power dynamic. If I remember it correctly- If you thought it was a power dynamic, it wasn't for me. I thought we were just chilling.

Wait, I kept making you say no to the interview. Yeah. Which was the interview. So in my mind, I interviewed you, in your mind, you stood up to be an interviewer. I was like, I'm chilling. So we both won. Well, so- Was I a jerk? If I remember correctly- No. I was like, I'm sure. So we both won. Well, so if I remember correctly, I know that, I knew that,

and there's no, you're not gonna keep him from doing something like that. So I knew that was gonna happen. I knew I would not do that. And I knew that you would likely resist it. But also I knew that our interviews, especially for an assistant role, are very much just like, do we like you?

Yeah. Do we get along with you? Exactly. Would we vibe with you socially? So I knew that just hanging out with you was a big part of the interview, but it wasn't an interview. So it wasn't gonna be like-

Which is really what I was thinking. It wasn't gonna feel any different than hanging out with somebody. Yeah. Which is why I literally thought to this day that we did have the interview. Like, cause I made my decision. For me, it wasn't an interview. For me, I was just like, I told them,

we're not gonna do a big interview. We'll just talk and hang out and have a good time, have a party. We're at a party, everybody's drinking. I was like, a cocktail or two in, it's like, you wanna ask me questions about my life? Sure. Right, because you might do that anyway with some of these.

Man, who played who here? I'm pretty sure, I don't know. I think we both played each other, Jenna. Me too. Why are you shaking your head? It worked. It worked, it worked out. But yeah, I ended up talking with Jesse and Christy the most out of everyone and just like, I mean, adored them.

I was like, all right, all right. If these women are married to these men, all right, I can, I'll give this interview a shot. I use Jesse as my like secret weapon for first impressions most of the time. Cause I'm just like, if we're going someplace as a couple, I know that she's going to be outgoing in like very, very warm

and people are gonna connect with her. And then I'm like, okay, she, in fact, it's actually made me be able to sort of just like retreat a little bit, which may not be a positive thing. Cause I'm like, I know that she's gonna be super sweet and super nice to these people and like start a conversation. She's gonna start disclosing something

she probably should disclose the first time that she meets somebody, because she's an oversharer. But people feel trusted and connected with, and then she can kind of tell me, well, yeah, I really liked this person. And then I'm like, okay, well next time I'll also talk to them. Which is similar, yeah, I really liked this person. And then I'm like, okay, well next time I'll also talk to them.

We're just similar, her and I are very similar because I have a tendency if in the right circumstances, someone asks a personal question, I'll overshare. If they ask, I'm gonna just share. I'm like, all right. Well, you don't even have to ask Jessie. Yeah, she'll just say it. But another thing about that party-

It's not oversharing if you're comfortable sharing it, though. Unless other people are uncomfortable hearing it, I suppose. Oh, is that a component? Well, I've had a very. I might give you a little insight into the links. I've had a very interesting life. I've had a lot of crazy things happen.

And sometimes when I say things, people are very uncomfortable because they're like, oh, huh. I do. I feel like. well okay i i get that i i think my mentality is i'd rather put a little bit more myself out there even if it's like people are like reeling a little bit because it is part of who i am and And if that's not, if you're gonna have a negative reaction to that, then there's nothing here for us. And now you know that. So, you know, I guess another way to say it is like, you know, if you just be yourself

and if people's first impression is negative and you're being yourself, then everybody's won because you can both move on and you're not, you know, you're not, it's not manipulative, you know? So it's, in the moment, I think I do err on the side of risking making somebody feel a little uncomfortable. Hopefully with my, as long as it's with something that's true of me, then I'm giving them information

where they can run for the hills kind of a thing. So maybe I'm being defensive here, but honestly, I think that that's part of what's behind it is like, you know, this might be a 10 minute conversation and you might be like, is that guy always like that? Or is this guy, you know? And then you might say like, is that guy always like that? Cause I like that guy.

Or is that guy always like that? Cause I'm never talking to him again. Mission accomplished. But if people get the wrong impression of you. Yes. Then it backfires. I don't want that. Right, right. So yeah.

So if people get confused and don't know, cause I agree with your mentality in general, and I think you should always be yourself. But if you're, if you like, oh, I said something to that person that's offensive and I actually didn't mean to offend them. And now I've got something that I need to, that, I mean, that's the only thing to-

If people are gonna be offended by me in our first interaction, let's not have a second one. I do care, I don't want to offend people, but if there's certain things that like, if you take yourself too seriously, it's not gonna to work for us. Honestly, you know, I mean, and I don't want to hurt people's feelings,

but that's how I feel about it. I mean, it's like, wow, Jenna, she's really an open book, but something she shared made me uncomfortable. Do you regret sharing it? If that's information that like you were comfortable sharing that, then it's like, as long as it didn't trigger them. I think for me,

it's one of those people that's just like, it's a realization of, cause I've, some of my stories are unusual for a lot of people. So then it's like seeing the reaction and be like, Oh, uh, right,

right. I am not normal. Cool. Should I? And then it becomes this be like, oh, right, right. I am not normal. Cool. Should I? And then it becomes this thought of like, does that person deserve to know this thing about me? Yes. But again, that's a you thing, not a them thing.

Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm. To me, that's where I draw the line. I mean, there's like a couple of different lines that I'm trying to draw, but like, I like talking about this because yeah, I'm dialing it in. I'm dialing it in, you know? Well, it worked.

So you got me. That's right, it worked. It worked in this instance. Another thing about that party, I will say that kind of sold me a bit was the bonsai tree trimmer who was there at the party who was uh trimming a giant bonsai tree the whole the whole party yeah and i had to i was like that is something i've never seen i seriously had like a 30 minute conversation with that man yeah i was

very fascinated and i was like these guys that was our idea it was our insistence and I was like, these guys- That was our idea. That was our insistence. Yeah, I was like, these guys brought this to a party. That's interesting, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Just so people who wanted to talk to him could talk to him. He hasn't been back since though. Nope, we would love for him to be back. That's our fault.

Let's see what this one holds. So my first video I watched of Rhett and Link, uh good mythical morning was eight weird ways to open a bottle and my first thought was why are these grown men having so much fun opening a orange soda i thought it was so strange and i decided to not watch any of their videos for like a month because I was so confused. But I ended up watching more videos and here I am eight years later. So shout out to eight weird ways to open a bottle and that very, very strange time I had.

So we were having too much fun? We scared her away? We were too old to have as much fun as we were having too much fun. We scared her away. We were too old to have too much, as much fun as we were having. And you know what? We gave her the information and it took her a month. She let it settle. To figure out that she needed that in her life.

The next time she had orange soda and she was like, look, think of all the ways I could open this with my eye socket. I think that actually using your eye socket was not one of them, but it was the thumbnail. Yeah. That was kind of a deceptive thumbnail. Yep, yep.

We don't do that often. The first thing I remember about seeing Rhett and Link on the internet was actually when I was 13 or 14, I saw the thumbnail for the season three Good Mythical Morning episode titled The Most Amazing Optical Illusions on the Internet. And at the time, seeing the thumbnail, it looked fishy to me, and I, in my head, thought it was something potentially sexually explicit, so I did not click on it. But that thumbnail kept popping up in my feed. And one day, being a horny teenager, I was like, all right, I'm going to click on it and watch whatever this is. And I clicked on it, and it was nothing very explicit. It was two dudes on the Internet looking at optical illusions,

but that's kick-started seven, eight years ago of being a fan. Love what y'all do, but, yep, that's how I got interested. Wow. Talk about being disappointed. Like, he had to work up the nerve and, well, the drive to click on the video. You're looking at a thumbnail right now. I'm trying to make sure that this is it. That's definitely it. It's gotta be it.

That was definitely it. It's got this- So it's from eight, it's from nine years ago. It's the, well, it started playing now. How many views does that have by the way? 22 million. Good gosh. So it's a picture of an optical illusion.

It's just like a photograph of two people hugging and the one person like has a halter top on, but you only see the person's back. So it's like the shoulders are exposed. So there is a lot of skin. And then, but like the placement of the head looks really weird. Cause it's the other person's head. It's the other person's head.

I mean, I remember what it was like to be a horny teen. And it doesn't, I mean, there's more than enough skin shown in this thumbnail, even though it's just back skin. Back skin and arm skin. Upper back skin of a woman. It doesn't take much. That is hilarious. But it's funny, because I wouldn't have thought

that it was sexually explicit, but I would have clicked on it because there was so much skin. Right. Right. Maybe we should put more skin in our thumbnails. All the skin on our faces. We just put so much face skin. Hi, Rhett. Hi, Link.

The first Good Mythical Morning episode I saw was the Outrageous Camping Gear You Must Own episode from eight years ago. At the time, I was probably nine years old. And. I remember watching it. And thinking. Wow.

This is really boring. I don't think I'm going to continue watching this. But then. A while later. When the. Will it episodes came out. That just piqued my interest. And I've been a fan ever since.

So thank you guys. For such amazing content. Well, somebody gave us a second chance. You never get a second chance to bore somebody out of their minds when they're nine years old. You know what, being nine, that was the problem, honestly. I'm thinking, what kind of camping are you doing? You don't have a budget for camping.

I feel like this story reinforces my theory, which I think is maybe a mirror to your theory. Germans love David Hasselhoff. So if your theory is you're gonna give people potentially too much, and if too much is too much for them, then you don't need anything with them. I go in thinking, I'm gonna give you too little. And if too little of me,

the little bit of me that I do give you, if you don't like the little bit of me that I give you, then you're not gonna like the more of me that I give you. So therefore, the next time we meet, I might give you a little bit more, and that's my prerogative. And again, I think that's just a personality disposition. I'm not saying one is right and one is wrong.

I just don't tend to be extra in general. It's just not my disposition. So if I'm not gonna be extra- And then I'll simmer down. And if I'm gonna be a little bit not enough, right? Because I do worry about that sometimes. I'm like, ah, did I come across as boring or uninteresting? Because I'm in this town

of really interesting people. And if I just seemed like some, you know, tall guy with Jesus hair who stands in the corner and doesn't talk to anybody, like, you know, I don't want to be that guy necessarily. But in this case, I can't remember her name now. When she was nine, she watched the video. She thought we were boring, but there was something,

there was something that she saw that she was willing to come back later. Will it? And then be like, okay, I'm gonna give these guys another chance. I think I just, I'm- Food. I think I'm just believing in the second, that you never get a second chance.

You know what? You might get a second chance to make a second impression. That's my philosophy. No, you would get a first chance to make a second impression. That's what I've been trying to tell you. You never get a second chance to make any number of impression. You only get one chance with every number of impressions.

Yeah, you might get a first chance to make a second impression, but I might call that the next chance. You might get another chance to make another impression. Yep, that's my philosophy. There's always another chance to make another impression. That's what the, that's Selsun Blue right there. There's always another chance to make another impression.

Like try us. If that didn't work for you, try us. Yeah. There you go. And also, I think that's consistent with our mentality of putting so much content on the internet. If you didn't like us here, forget it. You cannot. And see if you can like us here.

You cannot avoid us if you have an internet connection. We've made that very clear. Right, right, right. That's good. And boy, if you don't like us, which again, stand in line, there's a lot of people. We give you ample reason over and over again every single day, it's like,

those guys are now doing this? Man. Maybe I'm the one who's wrong. You're not. Saturation. You're not. We've oversaturated. We're not for everybody.

But we're for you. You know what? We are for you. Yeah, if you've made it this far in this podcast, Yeah. but we're for you. You know what, we are for you. Yeah, if you've made it this far in this podcast, Yeah. we probably are for you. Yep. So thank you for sticking around.

We're gonna keep doing this again this year. Again, every single week, there's gonna be another Ear Biscuit, just like this one. You can count on it. Hashtag Ear Biscuits to give us your written feedback. And if you wanna call in and just let us know how you're processing all this, please do. 1-888-

EarPod1. And I have a little rec. Yes you do. I talked about this in a recent podcast, so I'm not gonna go into detail, but it wasn't my official rec, and now it is. A very, very famous book,

"'Man's Search for Meaning Meaning from Viktor Frankl. It's like four and a half hours if you want to listen to it. So I don't know how many hours that is if you want to actually read it. But it's a small time commitment and a big reward for hearing about mostly his experiences, you know, through the concentration camps during the Holocaustration camps. During the Holocaust. During the Holocaust, yeah. So it puts things in perspective. Man's search for meaning. All right.

Talk at you next week. Love you. Hi, my name is Tatum, and my uncle absolutely loves you guys, and he's actually a street sweeper. And when he heard Link talking about how he's jealous of street sweepers, he actually cried happy tears because he never felt like he was really that important. And it was just, it was a nice thing for him.

Anyway, I hope you all have a good day. Bye.