Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - The Most Nervous We've Ever Been | Ear Biscuits Ep. 427

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

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I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the brown table of dim lighting, we are talking about nerves, man. What's the most nervous you've ever been? There's been lots of instances. We put ourselves in lots of situations where we've just been...tow up with nerves. You know? A little bit of loose...loose bowels. That's what happens to me. The main thing that happens... I don't always bring that up, but...

The main thing that happens is... Sweaty hands. Something comes up, and you know you're nervous when you got to go pee. And then right when you get back from peeing, you got to go pee again. It's like your body's telling you. Evacuate. Just empty everything so that you can be light and you can escape or perform or whatever needs to happen.

Because you don't want to pee in front of people. No, you don't want to pee yourself because it's a sign of weakness. Well, it's also a vulnerable moment, you know? Because it's hard to just pinch it off, you know? If you're just gonna... Have you ever peed yourself in a heroin situation? In my mom's bed, yes. What? Well, yeah.

Have you ever peed yourself out of fear? Well, is that a teaser or do you want me to answer that right now That would be a good teaser I mean That and more Today on Ear Business Nah let's just We don't have to play that game

Because the answer's no It hasn't happened to me I've never peed myself out of fear But I don't think it hasn't happened Because I'm a composed person I just think that I haven't Been in Like The classic movie trope I'm a composed person. I just think that I haven't been in,

like the classic movie trope is someone points a gun at you and then you pee yourself, right? Like that situation happens quite a bit in movies. And it's always like a sign of weakness of like, oh, he peed himself. But I never had that happen to me. I hope it never does.

I've never had a gun pointed at me. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying I've never had a gun pointed at me. But you're also saying you never peed your pants. Yeah, but I'm saying that that's a situation. I've never felt really that much in danger other than maybe like a close call and a wreck or something like that,

but that feels like a different thing. What about being really drunk? I haven't had that happen either, but that's another way that men pee their pants. Now, women pee their pants all the time, right? Isn't that what y'all do, ladies? All the time, yeah. But is not? Like, Christy tells me that there's been points... I mean, first of all, when she's pregnant, and if she starts laughing,

she'll pee. Well, let me be clear. That's excusing. Not just when pregnant, but women who have been pregnant and have given birth are also more likely... Oh, is that what it is? My goal, usually with my wife, is if I'm making her laugh and she doesn't pee a little bit, then I haven't succeeded.

You know what I'm saying? That's my goal always with my wife. Make her pee just a little bit. But not enough to where you can tell, just enough to where you have to ask her and then she'll have to... Yeah, I don't see anything pooling or anything. It's just she has to tell me. So it's moms that pee their pants, not women in general.

Link, I don't know if I want to. I don't know if I want to pontificate. It has to do with the muscles down there. A lot of moms or former, like, people who have given birth do it because the muscles down there have kind of, they've changed and adjusted. And, like, so that's usually why. But, you know, for those who haven't given birth, it could still happen. I would suggest Kegels. Yeah, I was just going to say.

You got to work out. They're all muscles. You got to work those muscles. It might also just be physics, too, if you think about it. If I've got a faucet and I turn it on and turn it off, oh, man. But if I've got a faucet that's got a hose attached to it and I turn it off and turn it on, I can pinch that hose. We can pinch the hose. We've got a hose.

Y'all don't really have anything to pinch. So we might be peeing ourselves all the time. That's what the kinkles are for. It's an internal connection. We might be peeing ourselves all the time. That's what the kinkles are for. It's an internal connection. We might be peeing ourselves all the time, but we're catching it. Yeah, there you go. That's the difference. They make things to help women after pregnancy now, though.

Oh, yeah, yeah. In France, they give it to you for free. Which, what is it? It's like a... Brie? No, it's like a device that's kind of like a vibrator, but also tightens everything up down there so you can regain strength. Oh, interesting.

Yeah. They give it away in France? Yeah. Like you get one in the mail after you give birth? Like after you give birth, like I don't know if it's at the hospital or where, but they give them to you so you can help. Here's your dildo. Because they care.

Why is it only in France? They're just so. Healthcare. Yeah. They're so healthcare in France. The government is involved. France is so healthcare. Well, how did we get here?

Well, the reason why I wanted to talk about getting so nervous is because I had a nightmare last night. Hold on, hold on. This is a nervous nightmare. You had a nightmare the other day because we were with somebody and you said something about a nightmare and you were like, I don't really have that many nightmares. Oh, you talked about it on Good Mythical More

and it wasn't really a nightmare. It was the way you described. In fact, you know what? But let's let it happen on Good Mythical More to not bring it up here again. Right. It wasn't really a nightmare. It was just a weird dream.

Well, yeah, it was about you. But it wasn't a nightmare. You described it as a nightmare, though. Did I? Mm-hmm. Well. Maybe off camera you did. Last night I was.

We put the dogs in their bedroom, which is like their little cushy kennel down at the foot of our bed instead of sleeping with us. Because they've been getting up so much in the night, doing stuff, drinking water, using the bathroom, insisting on needing things. So we're like, you're going in your bedroom. We've got to retrain you again. It happens to like you've got to sleep through the night. Of course, they never do. They're like barking yip at like 3 o'clock in the morning and getting to bed,

which they did last night. Because we're so sleepy, like one of us will get up and just say, okay, I'm getting to bed. It's just like having a freaking newborn that's with a lot more hair. I think that's really... Who does most of the crying when they get out? Last night, I don't know who it was,

because Christy got up, I was still asleep, but then the dogs getting in the bed is what woke me up. But I was cold, so I was happy because both the dogs sleep around me. And they get me warm. But then I went back to sleep, and I had this nightmare, and I woke up, like, drenched in sweat. Whoa. Just, like, pouring sweat.

And it was a nervous sweat this time, not like a heat sweat. And here's what happened. I was on stage at this, like, auditorium, and it was packed. And this was not like a – this wasn't a Rhett and Link thing was this wasn't a written link thing this wasn't a professional mythical thing this was like it was a link thing

it was just a link thing and like my my family was in the audience extended family I'd say there was probably there might have been a thousand people there whoa

and I get up and i go to the podium thing it's like a music stand type thing and so is this a speech or is it like a one-man performance it seemed like it was going to be a speech but right from the start there was like technical difficulties i think there was some sort of music involved because I think it was a combination of everything that I could have done, including like, there was like a DJ type equipment, but not actual DJ equipment. You were giving a TED Talk on DJing. It was kind of like that, yeah.

It was like going to be musical. It was like a keyboard-type apparatus. I had notes as if it were speech. And then I take it all up there, and I couldn't get the technology to work. And it wasn't like it was just a microphone. I can't even tell you what wasn't working. I just knew that it was a bitter fail from the beginning like people couldn't hear me I couldn't and then I was trying to like

talk loudly and like acknowledge the fact that like this is going to shit in a handbag kind of a thing and I'm struggling up there in front of everybody and then my notes I'm struggling up there in front of everybody. And then my notes start going all over the place. And then the technology starts working, so I try to start my speech or whatever. But now my notes are all out of whack, and I'm trying to find what it is I'm supposed to be talking about. And then all of a sudden, Christy's up there with me.

Oh. Like my wife came up there to help me. She's up there peeing herself. I was the one, like, she was pretty composed, but then we start having an argument in front of everybody because, like, I'm embarrassed and

my wife is helping me. And, like, it's not work. And, like, we're fighting because we can't make anything work. And at certain points, I go down off the stage to, like, my loved ones. My dad was there. I go up to my dad. Check in with him.

And I'm just, like, apologizing and embarrassed. Right. To, like, I'm sorry. This isn't working. And then, like, somebody else comes up there. Who was it? somebody else comes up there. Who was it?

It was either the Green Brothers, like Hank and John, or it was the Fine Brothers. It was some sort of internet brother duo. Okay. And they come up there, and then they start working on it, and then they look under the podium. Are they part of the show, or are they just tech support? I think maybe they had some part in the show earlier because they looked under there and they were like, oh, all you got to do is flip this switch. Oh, the switch, yeah.

And then there was like this little toggle switch under there. And everything worked. And it was as if they had switched the switch and didn't switch it back. It was the on button, power button. Like it was their fault. But at that point, there was no recovering. And I was just like in front of everybody like, now what do I do? Just completely exposed.

I mean, I might as well have been completely naked and peeing myself. That would have been worse probably. But that's what it felt like. And I was and I woke up drenched in sweat. I mean, thank God I hadn't peed myself again. And this type of dream hasn't happened to you before?

It's been a long time. This is a I feel like this is a It's classic, right? It's a type of dream. Especially when it's like I'm up here and I don't know what it is I'm supposed to be... I don't know what speech I've prepared, but I know I need to give it. That was also part of it. Kind of like, you show up for the last day...

You show up for the final exam and you've never been to the class. Which, I still have that dream. I just. My dream is forgetting that I was taking a class. I think it's your fault. Oh, crap. I forgot I was taking that class. You know, yesterday.

Oh, no. You triggered this when you started going through. Yeah. All the shit that we needed to be doing. Yeah, because we do. That we were behind on. And like you, I was, I've been doing good being in this world of ignorance. that we needed to be doing. Yeah, because we do. That we were behind on. I've been doing good being in this world of ignorance. And then you're like saying,

hey, here's all the stuff that we need to be doing. Well, what if we both lived in that world? What would happen? Hey, it was good. It was a good and necessary conversation. Tour would start and we would have nothing prepared. But it planted these seeds where I was just like really stressed in my dream.

But it just reminded me in waking hours of, first of all, how I don't like to sleep in a pool of sweat. That's not recommended. But also all of the nervous feelings of like being on, being on the spot, having to perform, having to execute something, most usually live. Yeah. All of that, all of the nerves associated with those type of experiences were kind of loaded into this anxiety associated with not live performances we have to do now. Like the tour that we're going on, I'm very excited about. And like the structure of it is such that like I don't think I'm going to be nervous going out there because we're like it's going to be very loose and we're doing Good Mythical Morning live. It's gonna be very loose and we're we're doing Good Mythical Morning live. So it's not an anticipation of that

but it's just kind of like a channeling of all those previous experiences of being anxious about a performance and just Superimposed on our to-do list of things that we need to Mostly it's songs. We got to write too many songs in too little amount of time. Well, so we're going to end up talking about all the times that we've been most nervous in all the situations. Yeah, that's what I wanted to do. But before we get to that, yeah, I've been thinking, I mean, I did trigger it because I'm literally, and Jenna, you know this because we're trying to find this time, right? So we have, and I'm going to add to it right now, right? So we have-

Don't do it. Don't do it. I'm going to think of one song, and actually I can think of a few more songs to be prepared for in a different context. But then there's four songs that need to be written, and there's another song that needs to be, that has been written, but we need to figure out

because we've got to perform it next week and something that we're doing. Oh, yeah. And so, yeah, I started thinking about that and I was, I've been thinking about it a lot, obviously. That's why I've been talking about it because we've been trying to find the time. And like last night I was thinking,

because one of the things that I've been doing with my anxiety is if it's nighttime and I'm not actually going to work on anything right if I if it's like okay I'm not working anymore tonight I'm not writing anything else then my like anxiety this is kind of a mantra but it's more of just a mindset. I trust my future self to handle this. Oh. Right?

I don't know where I got it. Some podcast. And then I'm able to be like, okay, then your present self doesn't have to think about this for the next two hours before you go to sleep or be thinking about it

as you're falling asleep. Mm-hmm. Because our future selves will solve these problems. It may require us staying up very late one night, or we may have to do what we used to do. We try to fit everything into reasonable hours in our middle age, but we may have to pull the trigger on like, hey, we're going to stay up until midnight tonight

or beyond to like land all these things. I know you hate the idea of that, but some of the best work happens in that environment. Some of the best work happens in the dark. But yeah, so I've been thinking that. You yourself. And then the second thing I've been thinking is, and Jessie tells me this all the time when I start talking to her about all the things that we have to be prepared for and

all the things that we are creating, prepared for and all the things that we are creating she's like if you didn't have this you would be so like you would be miserable like i'm saying like if you actually didn't have these things to be working on right to be making yeah you would create the things to be and that's that's my history is if i don't have the things i create things i create responsibilities. I create responsibilities for myself, creative responsibilities for myself. So I agree with that too. It's just, yeah, it was the first thing I thought about when I woke up today. I was like, crunch time, baby.

Here we are. It's coming down to the wire, but this is when we're at our best. We're like living through a song biscuit right now, right, where we have to write a song in an hour and then perform it and release it on the internet. We're kind of in the life version of that for like five or six songs. It's a good problem to have. I trust our future selves. Yeah, but our future selves keep scheduling other stuff.

No, our present selves are scheduling stuff. Our present selves keep getting other things put into these spots that we've set aside for creative time. But I trust our future selves to do it. We're going to be fine. It's going to be great. And I'm really glad that we're writing this mini-song. I don't know how I ended up stumbling upon... Somebody tweeted, or I don't know where I saw it may have been a TikTok

but it was a link to an old one of the song biscuits that's why I was thinking about it and it was a it was a song biscuit for I don't know we we wrote a bunch of songs that are not in your mind at all right now. Definitely not in my mind until they are presented. I was like, oh, yes. Oh, yeah. That's a song that we did for this thing.

Even the end of tour song, Friends Till the End, like that song. Yeah. I saw somebody talking about that song, and I was like. Forgot about that. I would live the rest of my life without ever thinking about that song again. And then I listened to it and I was like, that's a good song.

No, babe. That's a good song. So your past self surprised you? Well, it just hit me how many songs we've written and so it gives me confidence that we can write six songs. I'm seeing a lot of chatter about the last CD that we released, the Up to This Point CD.

Yeah. It has like the 21 songs that we have written up to that point, give or take. Probably released in 2009, maybe 2010. People are talking about it being sold on eBay for $500. That's what they say. And then somebody posted something where they found one for $1.99 at a thrift store or a thrift music like bin or something.

Yeah. That's not surprising. People are looking for these things. That's what I see most of the time. Somebody finds an old something of ours in a place and it's like $2. That's the normal thing. The last album, proper album that we released that we actually. Because there's not many of those out there.

That's for sure. Yeah. that's like the sought-after collector's item. And it's a very cool... We went all out on the design. It has a poster on the inside. It's got a lot of songs on it. Because people are buying CDs again, you know? It's like, now that the record

thing is happening... And cassettes. People are now buying cassettes. They're buying CDs because it is the highest music fidelity is on a CD. Yeah. Though I think if you listen to Tidal, they have the higher music fidelity files. They have a master quality. Like the Aflac or whatever it's called.

Master quality. Like the Aflac or whatever it's called. Anyway, I want to go back through all the times where we've been all nervous as all get out. Okay. But we'd have a jigsaw puzzle. You know, if you need a way to zen out, you can buy our jigsaw puzzle. It's available at Mitchell.com. 500 pieces. How long does that take?

Depends on how smart you are. It depends on how much of a puzzler you are. Well, it's a certain type of intelligence. Spatial visualization or something like that. I don't know. Yeah, you can get your guillot with the puzzler, or whatever it's called. You have to have patience and that particular skill,

and it has to be a rainy day. If those three things line up for you, this is your product. Do you remember the puzzle song? P-U-Z-Z-L-E, puzzle. Puzzle, puzzle, puzzle, puzzle, puzzle, puzzle, puzzle. No, I don't remember it. From the puzzle sketch? The puzzle sketch.

Yeah, I don't remember. Mythical.com. Your teen requested a ride, but this time, not from you. It's through their Uber Teen account. It's an Uber account that allows your teen to request a ride under your supervision with live trip tracking and highly rated drivers. Add your teen to your Uber account today. The first time I remember, the first consistent events that I remember being nervous about were before basketball games in high school. Before sporting events in general, but especially before basketball games because, you know, like I played baseball and it's different.

Like there's not really that many people there and it's different. There's not really that many people there and there's no running. Basketball, there's people sitting there in the stands and then there's a moment in which you all run out and you're like, here we are, we're gonna play basketball. And everybody cheers and you have to go

and do a cool layup, you know? Oh, yeah. And obviously I had some accolades at the time. So I had a reputation that I was trying to maintain and I wanted to win. So I remember getting nervous before those games and the way that my nervousness would manifest is in sleepiness. Yeah, and the way that my nervousness would manifest is in sleepiness.

Yeah, I relate to that. And I've told this to a number of people, and there's some people who relate. And it's funny because I remember thinking, if you remember, I don't know which synoptic gospel it's in, but there's this moment when Jesus is about to be taken

by the authorities, and he goes in there, and all the disciples are asleep. And I think the traditional, I used to think, and the way it was taught to me is that they were just kind of like disengaged or something or didn't get the importance of what was going on. I always interpreted it as they were really nervous, They were just kind of like disengaged or something or didn't get the importance of what was going on. Yeah. I always interpreted it as they were really nervous and so they were sleepy

because that's what would happen to me. All of them. Jesus was about to rouse them up for a basketball game. No, that's not what it was. So, yeah, I would get really sleepy and it would take me literally the game beginning and like a couple of plays before I like like snapped myself out of it and got energetic and also I didn't understand nutrition and I wasn't doing anything to be prepared I wasn't doing any mental preparation like kids that play

sports today they've got the nutrition they've got the mental preparation they've got all the stuff that you can see on Instagram and TikTok. They can be totally prepared. I would just, like, eat some pudding and then show up sleepy. Take three plays before I was fully awake. I mean, I got really nervous for every sporting event, not because I was competitive, but because I was so afraid of screwing up. Well, I think that that's why most people get nervous before sporting. That's why I was nervous.

I didn't want to screw up. But it wasn't about the crowd watching. It was more like, I don't want to fail the team, I think. Really? Well, yeah. Yeah. I didn't want to fail anybody. Well, and I never thought about the fact that, like, basketball,

there was a crowd that was very close, and they were yelling at you, and you could hear them. When you were at a soccer game, people aren't even watching. They're not really watching, and they're sparse, and it's in a football stadium, and they're really far away. Yeah, and it's not packed. You know, when I say that, I say a soccer game at Harness Central High School. Yeah, my soccer games. I don't, obviously, people watch the football, and people's not packed. I say a soccer game at Harness Central High School in the 90s.

Obviously, people watch the football and people really care about it. Sorry to offend you. I'm just saying, in our context, no one was watching. They came to these games as like a social event. Would you hear people yelling at you when you were free-throwing? I wasn't nervous at all once the game got going. I was nervous throughout every single moment of gameplay and everything I ever did because I was never good enough to enjoy it.

But this is a consistent thing throughout all of these things is that my nervousness always proceeds the event and then once the event starts, it goes away completely. So even in the midst of, oh gosh, we're down by one and I just got fouled There's two seconds left. I need to make both of these free throws for us to win. I Really really wanted to make the free throws and I'm not saying my heart rate didn't increase But it wasn't nervousness in the same way that I had before the game. It was more like intensity in the moment. But it was more like, yes, I'm supposed to be here. But before the game, I was like, man,

I don't know if I can do this. I feel like I need to take a nap, a little nappy. I remember in terms of performances with the two of us, I think back in the Campus Crusade days, whenever we were hosting, emceeing the annual Christmas conference, you know, when we moved to, it was like, it wasn't just NC State. It was like all schools from the surrounding states. There was, what, 1,800 people there? 2,000?

Yeah. I want to say 3,000, but I don't think it was that many. I doubt it. That's still a lot of people. It felt big. And it was the one time a year that we would do something that big and we would- There's a lot of buildup to it. Dedicate preparation for at least six months.

Usually, it would be in the back of our minds and then move to the front like six months. The whole year be in the back of our minds and then move to the front like six months. The whole year was in the back of our minds. So then that first night, we made a big deal about, we'll have some fun with you coming out or eventually when both of us came out to host the event, we would have a video and then we'd come out. Sometimes we would come out, one year we came out and host the event. We would have a video, and then we'd come out. Sometimes we would come out. One year we came out and did a dance routine.

Yeah, in yellow suits. It was awesome. That was a weak year. It was a weak year. But we were backstage for probably two hours beforehand, just sitting back there pacing and just waiting to go out there. Like a whole year's worth of prep and build up to this moment that nobody thought about it the way that we did.

No. So it wasn't like the Super Bowl or even like a big game of any sort. It was our Super Bowl. Or even a performance. It wasn't like I'm going to this thing and I can't, some people might have been like, I can't wait to see what Rhett and Link

are going to do. It's always amusing and it's always fun, but it wasn't the point of the event. It was, the point of the event was everything else.

We were the emcees that were just introducing it, but we turned it into this. We went way overboard. 10 minute opening performance. Totally self-indulgent. But it was fun. It was fun. It was very self-indulgent. It was fun for the audience.

Well, and then there were some people who were like, guys- Too much. If you didn't know what it was gonna happen, you're like, I'm going to this Christian conference. There's these guys up there in these big yellow suits dancing to Petey Pablo. Yeah. Well.

What is happening? Praise Jesus. It's like, what is happening? How did this happen? What went wrong? We were good at giving them a what's happening kind of feel. And you know, most people like a good surprise.

A pleasant, comedic surprise. No, but I was very nervous. We built it up so much. We were so nervous. I mean, that's when it would be like pee every ten minutes for the two hours leading up to it. And you'd go into the bathroom and it would just be like this little trickle. Yeah, I mean, you just got to... My bowels get much more affected than yours.

I have, surprisingly, much, my bowels get much more affected than yours. I have surprisingly much more sensitive bowels than you, maybe because I eat so much. But like, that's my go-to is just full evacuation. Like on a day, on a Christmas conference day, in that first thing, the first night, it was a night, right? So the opening day, you would come and you would register, and then we would go that night. So that day, I had all day to prepare,

and all day to prepare means taking five dookies. I mean, I was completely cleaned out. We did all right when we went out there. It was fine. But it all comes to a head. There were like five days, and there was a morning meeting and a night meeting, and we'd usually do, give or take, something every morning and every night. So then by the third day, it was like, well, I'm not nervous every single time I'm going up there.

A little bit nervous. A little bit nervous, but it was nice to then have these other days like, well, I'm not nervous every single time I'm going up there to the same. A little bit nervous. A little bit nervous, but it was nice to then have these other days like get in a comfort zone. But here's also, you didn't have to do anything serious. Yeah. I had to do the serious stuff. You had to introduce speakers. I had to introduce the speakers. I had to transition to worship.

I don't even really want to talk about this. I'm not going to give the details because it's too much of a downer. But I had to deliver the most sobering news that I've ever delivered and ever heard of about something that happened to someone's family, if you recall that, that year. I don't remember what happened, but I do remember it being. And it was, there was just something that happened to somebody's family who was there, and it was just like the worst possible thing that you can imagine.

And I like, the guy that had been in the yellow suit dancing to Petey Pablo has to deliver. I had to deliver, I was nervous as hell before having to talk about that stuff. They didn't have to get you to do that. Yeah, they did. I was the emcee. But an adult could have done it. I was an adult. Not really, though.

But I had to do the serious stuff. I don't think you can call yourself an adult. And then when the speaker, when the pastor was done or whoever had been doing some really emotional thing, I had to get up there and be like, say something serious. You had to, like, take notes on the talk and then, like, reiterate a point or two that made it seem like. You had it. You just got up there when we had fun. I had to do all the hard things, man.

Hey, I did have to sing at a funeral. That was hard. I did that with you once. You had to do all the hard things, man. Hey, I did have to sing at a funeral. That was hard. I did that with you once. You had to do another one? You didn't sing with me at a funeral. It was a wedding. I sang with you at Ben's funeral. Oh, well, yeah. That's different. I mean, like, well, yeah, we did that.

That was a graveside thing. I'm talking, like, hundreds of people in a church. I'm on stage. I had to do that. After that phase, because... I was nervous. We did. We emceed Christmas Conference for 10 years, I think.

And well after we were off staff and even well into like, secretly doubting the entire enterprise. Still emceeing. But the next sort of series of events, because once we transitioned to making videos, the nervousness goes away. There is no moment of performance. There's no, the curtain opens. It's just,

you're just making this thing and then you're sitting there waiting for comments and likes, and there's no nervousness involved, right? I mean, you're a little bit maybe anxious about the response that you're going to get, but it's a totally, your heart rate never increases. So the next thing I remember, and I'm sure there was some events that we did, like we emceed some weird stuff. Like we emceed that ad agency thing, the very first ever like digital upfronts in New York. And then we like emceed the creative,

I thought it was a creative arts Emmys way back in the day. When we went last year, this year, it was much bigger than it was when we did it. It may have been like a technical thing. I don't know what it was the creative arts Emmys way back in the day. When we went last year, this year, it was much bigger than it was when we did it. It may have been like a technical thing. I don't know what it was, but little weird events like that that I would get nervous before. But the most nervous, like where I feel like I can't be any more nervous and I'm about to explode, is right before we come out on a late night appearance.

Not now, but back in the day, and specifically the Conan. Oh, Conan, yeah. Because Conan was before Lopez, wasn't he? Yes. Because Conan was 2011. I don't remember beforehand. I remember talking to Conan during the commercial break

and he was really nice and we were talking about local commercials that we were making because that's what we were talking about. But I don't remember

beforehand like for the Tonight Show first time we were on the Tonight Show that's really nerve wracking because you're in this iconic

building 30 Rock you're likewracking because you're in this iconic building, 30 Rock. You're like walking around and you're seeing famous people, other guests. You're meeting Jimmy in person for the first time backstage. I think that was the time, I think it was the second time that we brought all of our kids, not the first time, because I think we knew we'd be too nervous to have people there with us like christy and jesse or the kids or something we knew that like it was better to be nervous just me and you and our people instead of like having like guests that

we needed to entertain but they file you from your, you know, people keep coming to your dressing room. There's like the producer and he talks or she talks you through stuff. And then the mic, the sound guy comes in and puts a mic on you. And then you have to go into makeup and hair. And they were always complimentary. Oh, we don't need to do anything to your hair. I'm like, oh, that makes it.

The makeup chair is always the place where I'd let off some steam. Like, just hitting it off with the makeup and hair people. And they were always so nice. So that would be a little respite. And then I would leave there and come back out and we would just be waiting for the director with the microphone thing. The long-haired guy. The headset. He's been there since the very first time we ever went. Just to come in. He's like, all right, fellas, he takes you down this hallway. You go into this very dark space. And this is behind the curtain, right?

So if you look on the Tonight Show, there's the curtain. And you think you need to pee right then. It's like, oh, man, do I need to pee right now? And behind the curtain, this is what they have. They have a mirror with very low lighting so as not to spill out. Like makeup lighting. But it's basically like your last looks, last chance to look at yourself. And the makeup, sometimes there'll be somebody there looking at you and making

sure that you're okay. And then it's very small. It's smaller than this room, for sure. And then he sits you right there, and there's the curtain, and then the roots start playing. You mean stand you right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're standing. The curtain, you're like noses against the curtain, basically. Yeah, and when they're back from commercial and the roots start playing,

even this, I mean, we've done it how many times? Ten. Ten? Even though every time that happens, I get, my heart rate really starts increasing right at that moment because it's just like the curtain's about to open. But the first time, whoo! That was, I mean, that's quite a buildup

because you're standing back there. If it's a minute, it feels like five minutes. If it's two, it feels like ten. You know? So it's... The nervousness gets so intense sometimes. Who's going out first? You going out first? Am I going out first? Okay, you're going out first. You stand in front of the curtain, and then like, your nose is against the curtain, and my nose is against your back. It's a very familiar feeling now. The nervousness gets as... not now, but then, as intense as I can imagine

nervousness being to the point where if I was capable of fainting from nervousness, I would. Like, that's how... like, your heart's going... Oh yeah. And I'm like talking myself out of it. But you can feel... Why do I care this much? I know what it feels like for your heart to jump, and I'm like talking myself out of it. But you can feel... Why do I care this much? I know what it feels like for your heart to jump out of your chest. Like that's, you know, you can look down.

I'm getting nervous thinking about it right now. You can look down and you can see your heart beating through your shirt. And my hands are shaking. And then you start thinking, like, well, how am I going to hold my hands so that people can't see that they're shaking so much? I can't gesture. Hey, Johnny! I'm gonna look like I'm doing some sort of a... Jazz hands.

Jazz hands. You know? I'm gonna sit on my hands when I go out there. Oh crap, I haven't thought about how I'm gonna sit. Am I gonna spread leg it? As soon as the curtain opens, the nervousness vanishes. It's just weird. And it's like, we sit down on the couch, and I'm like, okay, this is weird. No, the nervousness did not go away the first time, because then you're like, oh, this is how close I am to Jimmy.

This is him talking to me. What is he saying? That's a different sensation. That's a different sensation. There's right over there. That's not nervousness. that's like deer in headlights, which I definitely, if I watch some of those early appearances, I'm like, I wasn't comfortable.

I wasn't nervous. I wasn't comfortable because I hadn't figured out exactly- How to hold yourself. Who I'm supposed to be in that situation. And that sounds weird to say, but we had some little bits that we had figured out. And I remember, and my sort of demeanor has changed over the years. I was much more like, didn't smile a lot and was kind of looked like I was pissed a lot, like in our early stuff. And you know, my personality has changed a little bit,

but also comedy has changed. Comedy has softened in some ways, right? And I've kind of softened with it. And so like, if you watch those early appearances, I'm not gonna, I don't even smile the whole time. So you get this impression that, boy, he's really uncomfortable. And I was, I don't even smile the whole time. So you get this impression that, boy, he's really uncomfortable. And I was, I was uncomfortable, but I wasn't nervous.

I was just trying to figure out, how is this going? How is this thing that we're doing, we're trying to be funny, we're telling this story. Yeah, there's the stakes of, I'm here to make a good impression and to draw people into our world. You know? And there's an audience and it's live

and you can't take it again. And there's a lot of pressure there, but there's also stimuli coming from everywhere. You don't know what to focus on the first time you're doing something. And when it's high pressure and there's so many other things, it can be overload,

which can turn into the deer in headlights thing, or maybe the pee in your pants type thing. You can become catatonic or faint. And once you go on a few times, you're like, oh, I know what it feels like to sit here. I know, and talk to the host. I know what it feels like to sit here and talk to the host. I know what it feels like to look over there and see all the cameras moving around. And, oh, there's a guy with cue cards. And there's somebody with a screen.

I can see myself on the screen. And all the audience is out there. And I can connect with the audience members. and I can connect with audience members. You know, all of these things are your brain is processing and you learn how to focus and how to tune certain things out. But you really, you can only prepare so much. You have to go through it. So it took like four or five times before I really felt like I've done this.

I know what it's like and I know where I'm going to put my energy. You know? And that brings the nerves down once I'm through the curtain. But, yeah, that, like, buildup behind the curtain is – now it's a thrill to have that type of nervousness because I have confidence. You know? And we don't get a lot of opportunities for for that when you have to I mean I was really nervous when you know you're exposed giving a speech like the graduation the commencement addresses like I was really nervous about that because for all the reasons I just gave and i was alone like a lot of this we have

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Well, to me, it's the, okay, I'll use this as a way to transition into another setting because one of the things that happens with anything like The Tonight Show, especially in the early days, is the moment that it's on the calendar, it registers, it locks itself into your brain, and it becomes a source of anxiety, right? And it's a little bit subtle. Then the week arrives.

The week that you're going to leave, you're going to fly to New York and you're going to do the thing. And then it becomes this thing that it's one of the first five things that you think about when you wake up that week, right? And it begins to build. That's how it happens with me at least. And the other thing that I've noticed that this happens with is before a difficult meeting. Yes. Right. So not only have we had the opportunity to be creators for a long time, but with that, we've had to rerun this company for a really long time, right? And so for all kinds of different various reasons, there's sometimes, there's different reasons that you have to have a difficult meeting. Yeah, I would say there's pitch meetings, which are kind of a performance, and if you really want to sell something to somebody,

which at certain points we really wanted to sell something to somebody, and you go into the room with, like, network executives. That's nerve-wracking. But to go into a meeting where you have to reprimand, give tough feedback, or even let somebody go, whoo, that's bad. That is tough. Yeah, when we have to, like, do the boss thing, when you have to be bosses. Yeah.

And you're like, oh, we just wanna be cool guys. We just wanna be your friend. And we are, hopefully, your friend. But yeah, there's sometimes you have to have difficult meetings and I'm a people pleaser and I'm conflict avoided. So, and I'm not saying you like conflict, but you have a different relationship with it than I do. Well, tell me yours, I'll tell you mine. And so this for me is like,

the way that I try to calm myself is to be prepared. Right? Yeah. I want to know what I'm going to communicate. I want to anticipate a series, like a decision tree of potential responses. Like a flow chart. That then I will respond in the following way. Because I'm not, like I'm much, I may be prepared.

I don't like to be like, I'll just figure it out in the moment. Like that's just not how my personality works. My personality is like, if I say this, they could respond in these three ways. And then I need to have these three responses prepared for these three different things. And that's a lot to keep up with, and I'm not very good at keeping up with it. But that's how I calm myself is I'm like, okay, you know what you're saying. You know how this is starting. You're saying this, and then Link is saying this.

And it's going to be okay. Yeah. And it doesn't necessarily work. I'm just saying that's how I try to prepare myself. For me, I mean, it is important to know like how to kick it off. Like you gotta have a strong starting point. And then you gotta know what your objective is,

like your landing. This is something that you learned back in the old MC days. It's like, you focus on the takeoff and the landing and then everything in the middle, you just kind of like, just do your thing. But you got to know how you're wrapping it up and how to start it. And so I approach it that way.

So it's less of a decision tree because I can't keep all that straight in my mind. The other thing I think about is what I don't want to say. Like the no say these things list. And if I have to deliver a tough feedback or a tough decision, a tough decision, it's like, okay, don't, like if somebody, if it makes somebody upset, like you have to stay strong in this way. You can't just start, you can't be bowled over or like change the whole decision

because things got emotional. You know, so I try to be prepared in that way But all of the thinking about all those scenarios makes me more nervous You know and we've had meetings where I had a lot but I mean we've had a meeting where we've been yelled at That we were the ones well, I mean we were delivering the message, but the way that it was received was not, it was not received well. So there's, I mean, we've been yelled at. We've been, I mean, there's been colorful language thrown at us. There's been, I mean, it hasn't, that's very rare.

It's very rare. But it has happened. hasn't that's very rare it's very rare but but it has happened honestly there's a lot of it's very common for there to be emotions and tears like for it to be crying oh yeah it's just it's oh man and so once you experience that you're afraid that that might happen and then when it starts to happen and i'm not saying in any one meeting, but the fact that now you know that it is very much on the table that this can happen. Oh, my gosh. They're like, who wants to sign up to make people cry? Yeah.

Like, it's horrible. I hate it. It's the worst part of being a boss. And it's common. Difficult conversations are if you're going to actually be If you're actually going to be engaged Yeah Right It's a very typical part of it

Because you actually are not doing Like we want to be Like we're these good southern boys And we And I And then you We're both people pleasers in some ways Like we don't like to cause

You like to stir shit up Socially but mostly For entertainment purposes Not like to be mean And so Yeah you do not revel in a tough conversation uh but like when you don't like you really don't want to have difficult conversations you wish everything was just perfect and everybody was just doing exactly what they needed to do and it was a big happy family but you actually are doing a disservice to people

when you don't give feedback or you don't make strong decisions about things but everyone has their pov right like we are obviously coming from the pov of the people who run an organization but every individual lives in their world from their perspective and their point of view is valid and but it may be contradictory we may not not see eye to eye, and when those things happen, you're just like, ah man, this really sucks. And there's so much nerves. I mean, it's like, the moment you're calling the meeting, you know, it's like, for us, it's this, oh, we gotta do this.

And then for them, if it's a tough meeting, it's like, oh shit, what's this meeting actually about? You try to give them an idea, but then it's like, in some ways it's more nerve-wracking to be on the receiving end of it, of course, because what's coming? You don't know. Of course. It's unknown.

That's horrible. I'm not saying we've got it more difficult than the person receiving the bad news. But it does make us very, very nervous. And when everybody's nervous, that's just awkward. And then there's this dynamic. There's a dynamic. It's funny because I was talking to a band recently, these two people that were in a band and they were fans and they,

like they were fans who had like watched the show a lot. And I don't know how this particular subject came up, but they were asking about like, how do you, you've been doing this for so long, how do you do this show and all the other stuff that you do where the goal is to entertain and to make people laugh, when I know that you must, like, your emotional life isn't just always great.

Right. And so I was like- Well, I appreciate that question. Link and I have become master compartmentalizers, right? So, and I think that this is a perfect example of like, let's just say it's a day we're shooting multiple episodes of Good Mythical Morning. But yet. Right in the middle of that schedule, there is what we'll just call a difficult meeting. Right. So I can't be thinking about that when I'm trying to make you laugh or make the crew laugh and make the people watch laugh. when I'm trying to make you laugh or make the crew laugh or make the people watch laugh.

And then let's say it goes real bad. Let's say it goes south and it's emotional or whatever. Still, when Jenna walks into the room and says, we're back at two o'clock or whatever it is, I can't be like, hey, give me a second. We are magically funny. Well, it ain't that easy. It's like, no, turn that off, turn the other version of yourself on, and go and do the show and have a great time.

And actually, it ends up being a little bit of a reprieve from that, because there are people who would be like, guys, we want you to, why can't you just be yourself? Well, you wouldn't have what you have. Like, you wouldn't have all the content that you have if we weren't able to do that. And listen, I totally respect most people that I know that I've known as creators, they're having a bad day. They don't make content.

They're having a difficult day. They don't make content. And that's fine, and I respect that. We just build a system where we don't make content. They're having a difficult day, they don't make content. And that's fine and I respect that. We just build a system where we don't have, we don't allow ourselves to do that. Yeah. And we don't plan on changing it because we've actually gotten pretty good

at like psyching ourselves out. But it's just, you know, a little insight into the day of these dudes that you watch eating testicles and eating blue foods and commenting on really ridiculous things that are then like having to do adult things in between it's not distant but i mean there's tough meetings with like business partners it's not just employees oh yeah it's like any i mean we you know we've had some really difficult... Like, had to be face-to-face

with business partners that you're, like, hashing out... Third parties. A contract disagreement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And thankfully, we've got a really great team

that handles so much of this stuff. Like, if you look at Mythical and you think about, if you write all difficult conversations and difficult meetings and you throw them into a hat, the number that we actually have to be personally involved in is a very small minority at this point

because we have an incredible team that handles so many things. It's also why we're able to do all the stuff that we're able to do. But it's just the nature of the beast that still that number of difficult things, it still finds its way into our schedule on a regular basis. I mean, there were points, it doesn't really happen anymore. But like when we started having our company-wide meetings where you and I would just kind of have the whole company in a room and we would like talk about things like at the when we first started doing that that made me really

nervous because it's like this weird size group of people that are all looking at you to tell them something that is very pertinent to their work life you You know, it's like, it's a different type of pressure and expectation. That was like, well, I actually got really worked up the first few times. Yeah, I, you know, that size group is my kryptonite in a lot of ways. Right, when you're talking like, if it's a small room, like if there's 30 people in the room. Or less. Or less.

Like 15. Oh, that's a tough room for me. Because I get. Yeah, when it gets to be now where it's like if the room is packed, I'm used to it now. It's different. But I think of it a little differently. To me, like my level of preparation

is how I combat it again. It's just like, if I'm like, oh, I know what I'm gonna say, then I'm not nervous at all. But if it's one of those things that, I've talked about this before with the classic, let's go around and say what we're thankful for. I mean, not necessarily with my family, but I've been to a couple of places.

I did a Thanksgiving one time with some friends and then a bunch of people I didn't know, and there was that moment, and I'm like, oh, okay, well, I want it to be heartfelt, but I want it to be a little funny. You know, you start thinking about it, and then you're thinking about what you're going to say. You're not listening to what everyone else is saying.

I just really do not like that environment. I mean, it reminds me of, like, breaking up with my girl. Talking to girls. Just talking to girls. Talking to girls as, like, a middle schooler and high schooler. Like, I'm telling Lando now, you know, he's in eighth grade. I'm like, dude, when I was your age, I was like, the only reason I dated girls was because I felt like I ought to.

And it wasn't that I, I wasn't even that interested. Like I was kind of a late bloomer in terms of interest. So I did it out of social obligation just to fit in. And that is a recipe for like anxiety. I got so nervous when I tried to conduct myself in relationships with girls. You know, I have to call, I'm supposed to call her on the phone. Oh God phone Oh God I wish I could have bled off

Some of my Desire and given it to you It would have simplified my middle school Experience But I was still very nervous You know What my nervousness manifested In is that moment

When You think you want to kiss somebody Oh yeah What my nervousness manifested in is that moment when you think you wanna kiss somebody. Oh yeah. And I remember. Well think about that moment, but it's not you wanting to kiss somebody, it's everybody else wanting you to kiss her. And they're watching at the seventh grade party at the Lillington community building.

I wasn't thinking about everybody else. Everyone else was completely blanked out. The lights aren't even dead. And Michael is sitting there timing you. So anyway, go ahead. In sixth grade, there was the dance, and this is when I had started going with, is what we called it, going with Leslie.

Yep. And I never kissed anybody. And I hadn't practiced on my bedpost like you'd had. Should have done it. I'd done it a lot in dreams. I'd done quite a lot in dreams for many years. I felt somewhat prepared. But we were sitting there at the dance,

and next to us was my future girlfriend were sitting there at the dance, and next to us was my future girlfriend and her boyfriend at the time. And I had my arm around her, my girlfriend, and we were holding hands like crosshatch, hand-holding like this. And it's kind of a dumb way to interact with somebody if you think about it. But like you're- She's pretty secure. Like you could interact with somebody if you think about it. But like,

you're- She's pretty secure. Like, you could have been on a rope. She couldn't get up, I'll tell you that much. But, I don't think she wanted to.

You're like a human paperweight. And, I'm just sitting there and I'm, we're kind of in the dark a little bit and I definitely think that like, I could kiss her.

Like, I can kiss her. I should kiss her. I'm gonna kiss her. And then in my mind, it would be like, my body wanted to, but then my mind just kept saying no and wouldn't let me do it. And right during the moment where I really thought that I was working up the gumption, my dad shows up at the dance to pick me up.

You turn your head quickly to make out, and it's your dad's face. And that was my only opportunity, because she dumped me when school ended, which was like a week later. Did you ever, I mean, breaking up with girls was very nerve-wracking, too. Well, that's because you had to do the breaking up. I actually didn't. I got dumped a lot, because I was too nervous to conduct the relationship. Actually, let me see. I got dumped a lot because I was too nervous to conduct the relationship. Actually, let me see.

I got dumped. First time I got dumped, I did the dumping the second time. I did the dumping the third time. I did the dumping the fourth. Okay, I did end up doing some dumping. I didn't do the dumping. Yeah, I don't remember. I can't honestly remember.

You got letters? Yeah. You got letters? Yeah. You got letters? Well, you remember when Jana dumped me, it was the letter that I kept in my soccer bag for all those years. And I found it when we moved out here. I still had it. I don't have it anymore, but I read it on some show that we did.

She saw me as more of a friend. You know what that means. I was afraid to kiss her. Yeah. I mean, still to this day. Mm-hmm. Still to this day, you really screwed that up. I mean, I was giving you as good... I was giving you... You did not give me any advice!

I gave you all the encouragement. You modeled... theed dog way. I gave you a lot of encouragement. The horned dog way by middle school Rhett McLaughlin. I was just like, dude, she's inviting you out. She's asking you to ride the four-wheeler? Yes. She's asking you to ride the four-wheeler.

Yeah. I know, dude. I just couldn't do it. Yeah, I'm sure I got nervous before those difficult conversations, but... I think if you're not signing yourself up for something that makes you nervous, maybe you should. That's the thing that we started to discuss was that, like, you know,

when we were going on Fallon or going, like, doing something, like, it's like, you know, we just have this knack of continuing to put ourselves in a position, this is what we would say to each other, where we feel this way. You got to throw yourself in the deep end a little bit. And. Discomfort causes growth. And we have grown as a result of it. It's not just about commanding a room or an audience,

but it's about being able to hold yourself at poise in an environment of stress because it's gonna happen. And if you can put yourself in a fun situation, that you're like, man, I'm so mad at myself that I'm doing this, but when it's going to happen. And if you can find, if you can put yourself in a fun situation that you're like, man, I'm so mad at myself that I'm doing this, but when it's over, I'm glad that I did it.

It's a reward and it kind of pushes you on. And it's the thing that memories are made of. It's the thing that memories are made of. But it's the thing your life is made of.

You know, Shepard plays some music and he's been in a couple of bands and... Why did you use that voice when you said that? He's been in a couple of bands. Why did you use that voice when you said that? He's been in a couple of bands.

This is a voice I use when I talk about him. So he won't find out. He's just, here's the audio. No, I'm just kidding. And it took them a while to play their first show. And I would always ask, I would be like, so you guys are practicing. Have you got a show? And he would be like, I would be like, so when you, you know, you guys are practicing, when you, have you got a show?

And he would be like, no, no. And I was just, I was like, hey man, just set a date for a show. Set a date. Just set a date. Because you will get ready for it. Like that's when it will come together. Like when you put yourself in a situation where you have to show up, you gotta be able to do,

you gotta be able to do this. And then they had their first show and it was like, he's never going to forget it. He's never going to forget that. And he got like this experience being like, oh yeah, like not only is it intensely rewarding to do something like that, but it, like not only is it intensely rewarding to do something like that But it really is the only it's the only way to get

The in my with the way my mind works is the only way to get properly motivated To do something is to not make it into a performance necessarily, but just to like create an environment where there might be some nervousness right, we want want we always sign ourselves up for things like to to be in front of an audience and we would always sign ourselves up out of excitement and then it would dawn on us oh i'm gonna be i'm nervous about this you know it was we were driven and then we you know you just can't and so no matter where we are in our career we're still driven to say yes to opportunities that then we find ourselves like,

I didn't think about how nervous I was going to be. If I did, I might talk myself out of it. But like tapping into that excitement and saying yes, then it has kind of built the ability to do things that we're still getting nervous, but they're just, they're different and bigger or stranger opportunities, whether it's, you know, laying somebody off, renegotiating a contract or, you know, performing to people who don't know you or do know you or whatever. Was this motivational?

Is everybody listening to Swing? I think if there is some sort of lesson in it, I do think it's that, and this isn't applied to everybody, I'm sure, but if you're like us, then introducing some stakes, you know, can be, I don't know. I just think it makes life more interesting.

If you're constantly avoiding situations where there's stakes because it's uncomfortable, I don't know, like, I think you're gonna miss out on a lot of opportunities and a lot of growth. Yeah. Say yes to that PowerPoint presentation. There's gotta be some uncomfortable situations. And I just think that's what life's made out of. A series of uncomfortable situations. Speaking of an uncomfortable situation, yes. My rec. I don't know why I started listening to this book, The Year of Magical Thinking by Joan Didion,

who, Joan Didion is like a famous author that I had never read, who was married to another famous author who I had never read, but she's also known for this memoir specifically about the death of her husband. So it's kind of, it's a little bit of a downer in some ways, in that it's, you know, it's a grief memoir. But her, like, her insights into things and the way she thinks about things

is fascinating. She's a great writer, and it's like a four-and-a-half-hour listen. It's about her husband dying. Okay. Yeah, so it's a classic grief memoir. I did not know that was a genre. Well, you know, like a, you know. How did you sign up for this?

Oh, it was, so I've noticed this, that, did you just notice like out of nowhere there were all of a sudden audio books on Spotify? Yeah. That are like included with your membership? Yeah. And it popped up and I was like, oh, I've heard about this.

Oh, it's short. I need something to listen to. And I just started listening to it. And since then I've kind of like looked into her life. She was a really interesting person that was almost like a style icon in a lot of ways because of just the time that she came up. Joan Didion? Yeah.

So anyway, I recommend it. What's it called? The Year of Magical Thinking. The Year of Magical Thinking. Huh. All right. Hashtag Ear thinking. Huh. All right. Hashtag Ear Biscuits. Let us know.

Call us and leave a voicemail. 1-888-EAR-POD-1. Next week, we're back. Hey, Rhett and Link. Just wanted to say I'm a huge fan, and I hope y'all never stop making these podcasts. They keep me entertained while I'm at work, while I'm at school,

while I'm just chilling, while I'm just sleeping, anything. Love you guys.