Employee Survival Guide® - Filing Successful Complaints With the U.S. EEOC

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

Comment on the Show by Sending Mark a Text Message.What if you could transform your EEOC complaint into a powerful tool to negotiate a severance/settlement with your employer?  Join me, Mark, as I un...lock the secrets to filing successful complaints with the EEOC and state agencies. With my extensive background in employment law, I’ll guide you through the essential steps, from understanding the crucial 180 or 300-day filing windows to the importance of completing and notarizing Form 5 accurately. Discover how dual filing with both federal and state agencies can be a game-changer, especially in states like California and New York, where employee protections and financial outcomes are more favorable.Crafting a compelling affidavit can make or break your case. In this episode, learn how to present a thorough, precise, and fact-based narrative while strategically including embarrassing facts about your employer to pressure for settlements. Avoid the pitfalls of over-emotional language and focus on delivering a professional, persuasive account. I'll walk you through the practical steps of drafting, organizing, and submitting your affidavit, ensuring it’s notarized and formatted correctly. Get ready to empower yourself with practical advice designed to streamline your EEOC process and enhance your self-advocacy efforts.Links:https://publicportal.eeoc.gov/Portal/Login.aspx eeoc.gov If you enjoyed this episode of the Employee Survival Guide please like us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. We would really appreciate if you could leave a review of this podcast on your favorite podcast player such as Apple Podcasts. Leaving a review will inform other listeners you found the content on this podcast is important in the area of employment law in the United States. For more information, please contact our employment attorneys at Carey & Associates, P.C. at 203-255-4150, www.capclaw.com.Disclaimer: For educational use only, not intended to be legal advice.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Mark here and welcome to the next edition of the Employee Survival Guide where I tell you, as always, what your employer does definitely not want you to know about and a lot more. Hey, it's Mark and welcome back. Today's episode will be talking about filing successful complaints with the EEOC or the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. If you ever wanted to know how to file a successful complaint with the EEOC and state agencies, listen in. I have literally filed hundreds, if not thousands, which I don't keep track of these complaints
Starting point is 00:00:43 over my entire career. If you're doing just employment law like I do, this is all I do. I wanted to share my viewpoint with you to save you time and aggravation in dealing with this agency and to make your cases more successful. First and foremost, let's define what I mean by the phrase a successful case. A successful EEOC case is one in which the agency accepts your case and you attend a mediation session with a financial outcome via a settlement agreement with your employer. Please note the EEOC will never, never litigate your case for you, so dispense with that pipe dream in your head before you file.
Starting point is 00:01:27 This is the problem with this agency in my opinion. If your goal in filing a complaint is to get justice against your employer and have the EEOC actually represent you in your case, then you need to know the following truth. You will never find any justice, quote unquote, justice, at this agency, even though this agency is charged with protecting employees in the workspace. The EEOC is a highly bureaucratic agency and only accepts about 1% of cases filed with it. Cases that the EEOC themselves will actually litigate on your behalf or behalf of a class. But they have limited resources and they will not legally represent you just because you file a complaint with them over their portal. This means you need to be your own advocate and hire an employment attorney like myself.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Although these podcasts and the articles I write on my website are designed to facilitate your own self-advocacy,. That's what I'm all about. So, file the EOC complaint with the EOC. You literally, you can use their public portal. And I'll give a link in the show notes, but it's the publicportal.eoc.gov portal login, et cetera. And you can find it on the eoc.gov website. It's free, it's open to the public, of course, because it's a public agency. And the agency says you can submit something there electronically, like a complaint or
Starting point is 00:02:57 an inquiry, and they'll interview, et cetera, but you really can bypass all that by drafting affidavit and getting to the facts of what it is and submitting it to the agency. And I'll get to the second. But first and foremost, you have a time window to do this. You may not know that. Under the Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the American Disabilities Act and other federal statutes,
Starting point is 00:03:21 you generally have 180 days of the last adverse issue that happened to you, such as a demotion or a termination. From that date, you have 180 days to file a claim or you lose, waive the claim. But there's a catch. You also have up to 300 days, and this is because the EEOC has a worksharing agreement with almost every state agency. These state agencies are called fair employment practice agencies.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And because of this worksharing agreement, you have 300 days from the last adverse action to file a complaint or waive your claim. So under Title VII, file your complaint in a timely manner. And remember, your window of opportunity of 300 days is rolling forward each day one day. And you have a look back period of 300 days. So all the adverse actions have to fall
Starting point is 00:04:13 within the 300 day period. That's critical. Everything else that falls outside of that is basically background facts, and the court won't address it. So there is one theory, an exception, it's called the Continuing Violation Doctrine, and it says that individual acts
Starting point is 00:04:29 that occur outside the 300-day period, if linked together causally to all the events in the case, can be seen as one continuous activity by an employer. This happens a lot. You have to actually check a box on the Form 5, that's the actual official complaint form, the EOC. It's one page, you fill in the information about it, you put your name, you put the employer's name,
Starting point is 00:04:51 and you check this box. And don't forget to also check the two boxes at the top right-hand corner. It says the EOC and it says the FEPA, the Fair Employment Practice Agency, check both boxes. That means it's a dual filing. You've covered your ass for both state and federal. Very important you don't miss that.
Starting point is 00:05:11 These are stupid nonsensical things that they put into these complaint things that people miss it all the time. And then most important, put your allegations in little two inch box at the bottom. And you can supplement of course with a sworn aff affidavit and notarize the complaint. So that's your Form 5 document you'll be submitting to the agency.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I'll get into the more lengthy part of submitting a complaint successfully so you understand. But the basics are, in summary, file within 180 days and 300 days, generally 300 days, and get it notarized, check the appropriate boxes, go out on the portal and file it. But here's the other catch. Go to your state agency and file your claim with them as well and tell them you're first filed with the EOC type of case. Because you get to select which agency you want to have investigate the case. If you're in California, you want the California federal state agency to investigate your case
Starting point is 00:06:09 because California law is so liberal in terms of employee protections and the outcomes are such more, so substantially more favorable in terms of financial figures than the EEOC itself. So certain states are better to file with the state agency first and EEOC itself. So certain states are better to file with the state agency first and the EEOC second. New York City code allows for a very liberal standard and to file with them as well. I mean, they don't apply the same type of measure of damages as the EEOC would.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Again, more liberal, more expansive. Employers hate this shit. And it bothers them because they get entrapped in these investigations of these cases and settlements where big dollars are at stake. When the case is filed with the EEOC, you have to understand how they handle it internally. This is, it may be known to you, may not be known,
Starting point is 00:07:01 but here's the rough of it. Cases are assigned an A, a B, and a C. A, I interpret as they accept your case and they're gonna fine for cause. B, I call them borderline cases because they suck and they just have 50-50 chance of liability. C cases, I believe, they stand for crap
Starting point is 00:07:22 because they get tossed very quickly. So A, B, and C cases on intake. Now the EOC may have their own language I believe they stand for crap because they get tossed very quickly. So A, B, and C cases on intake. Now the EOC may have their own language that is different to what I describe, but after you've followed many of these cases up to these many years, here's how I see it. So A cases are, and they issue what's called a forecause, meaning they find that reasonable cause belief that you have a claim and there's liability attached,
Starting point is 00:07:49 that the employer did something wrong. These eight cases are so few and far between. I've actually received only one notice of for-cause in my entire career. I know the investigators, a friend of mine, hey Linda, if you're listening. And, but of the thousands I filed, I only got one. What's wrong with that? All I'm doing is implement law
Starting point is 00:08:11 and I don't get one for cause finding. It's because the agency is not set up to handle and litigate cases. They set up to dispense with their advice about implement. They think they're gonna be influential with respect to the courts, but in reality, they're just a functionary check-the-box system,
Starting point is 00:08:32 and that's all they are to me. I literally check the box. I administratively exhausted my remedies by filing with the state agency and the federal agency, you're the federal agency, and that's it. I don't waste any more time or client money on the EEOC's process. Likewise, for the state agency,
Starting point is 00:08:51 unless it's the California Fair Employment Practices Agency or it's some other more liberal and protective agency, I'll spend time there. But as I tell you a little bit later, like my process of doing this, you'll understand why. I literally check the there, but as I tell you a little bit later, my process of doing this, you'll understand why. I literally check the box, move on. So now you have your case filed,
Starting point is 00:09:11 you think you have an A case, and you filed your Form 5 charge, and you have your affidavit. And maybe you get invited to a mediation for the EOC. Well, the EOC does mediate cases. Let's say you don't have an attorney, you wanna to a mediation for the EOC. While the EOC does mediate cases, let's say you don't have an attorney and you want to have a mediation, the EOC will do mediation for free.
Starting point is 00:09:31 It may take you a few months to schedule because again, they have very limited resources. This is not the IRS. This is not the Department of Defense. This is the EOC, a very limited budget. Let's take a quick break. It's Mark, and we have a new product for you. It's called the Employee Survival Guide or Employeesurvival.com.
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Starting point is 00:10:21 Thank you. The mediation that you should expect, you know, this is part of filing a successful Click case and success means getting a settlement agreement from your employer. If you have a mediation, mediation is very straightforward. A neutral third party mediator who's an employee, typically an attorney, will mediate the case for the parties. And you go in there and you make your best shot
Starting point is 00:10:51 and you be professional and you make counter offers and eventually you arrive at a settlement. If mediation fails, or the EEOC kicks your case out because it's a B or a C, because it's crap, you're gonna get what's called a notice of right to sue. And this means that your case has been dismissed, they didn't say that it's dismissed on the merits,
Starting point is 00:11:14 this decision doesn't have any binding effect on any court in the future, and you have 90 days to file your lawsuit or you waive your claims. So from beginning to end, so from filing to getting a notice right to sue, that's a snapshot of the basics of filing an EEOC case. State agencies are very similar to that
Starting point is 00:11:37 and they have their own, well, let's keep things simple. You have a letter to the agency stating your filing complaint, and you have an affidavit. If you attach a form five, you attach it. Now let's talk about the affidavit, okay? If you've followed me for a while, you know that the affidavit is king.
Starting point is 00:11:55 It produces the outcome of the case. It literally directs how much money you're gonna get in your severance. Because the affidavit's filled with facts. And you yourself can file a successful complaint with the EOC, make it look like you have an attorney. You don't have to tell anybody you have an attorney, you just file your affidavit and see if you negotiate.
Starting point is 00:12:19 You can always hide the attorney in the blind saying, well, I have an attorney, I've talked to him, and we've come up with the following counter offer. And you just basically bullshit your way through it because no law says you have to disclose you have an attorney. The attorney's not required to file an appearance with the EEOC, although they may mandate that or some way.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It's not required by law. So you're not gonna lose your case if you don't have an attorney. So the affidavit is part of and it leads and controls the whole entire process of a successful complaint. The goal of filing a successful complaint is getting the employer to do what? Pay you settlement money for the claims
Starting point is 00:12:57 you're putting forth in paper factually in your narrative. I can't repeat that. Well, I will repeat it because because I'm gonna repeat it, because it's so important. It's what makes the money. Show me the money, show me your affidavit, okay? This thing can be lengthy, it's intended to be, it's precise, it's factually driven.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You can use your quotes from emails, quotes from text messages in Slack, your memory about what people told you. Your story, your story matters. The employer will not write their own affidavit. You'll not see any affidavit from the employer at all. The compliments I get from opposing counsel are this. Did your client record my client?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Because it's so lengthy and precise. You gave us a lot to chew on, Mark, in terms of investigation. It helped us, you know, by inference, you know, revenue for the law from investigating the case because it's, you know, it's, it's 100 and 200 paragraphs in length. You know, it's 30 some odd pages long.
Starting point is 00:13:58 These things can be huge. And they're the culmination of what we do in investigation. We ask the client to pour over the facts They're the culmination of what we do in investigation. We ask the client to pour over the facts and then do it over and over and over again. And more and more comes out each time we do an iteration of the affidavit because we're learning more
Starting point is 00:14:16 and the client's getting up to speed in terms of what is relevant and what's not relevant and understanding how to build a case. You've gotta build a case based upon facts, okay? So when you're writing your affidavit, be thorough. Get down to the nitty gritty of the comments made to people, made to you, made to others. Claims of other workers can be included in your affidavit.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Bad acts of the employer, although not part of your claim can be put in your affidavit to push the employer to roll over to your settlement demands. And the reason why is because a lot of stuff we put in affidavits don't have a standing basis for a client to put a claim on. However, they are terribly embarrassing to the employer. And if it became publicly known in the following manner,
Starting point is 00:15:12 I'll show you how hurtful and it can be for the employer in terms of marketing PR. These affidavits, I take them and I put them into a complaint during negotiations, a complaint with a federal caption on it, and I changed the pronouns of the same facts the client gave me, and I wordsmithed it so it works correctly, but it's the same set of facts and containing all the Pareto horribles
Starting point is 00:15:36 of the shit that the employer had created or at least my client became aware of. And you have to understand, this is involving public companies who may engage in deceitful behavior, financial fraudulent behavior. I've seen everything and we put it in these narratives. And they are so compelling
Starting point is 00:15:56 that senior management just freaks out and they end up capitulating and paying out large dollar settlements to my clients because they don't want this public disclosure to happen. So it's about public disclosure of your case, of what claims happened, and public disclosure about the junk that the employer allowed because of bad judgment or whatever,
Starting point is 00:16:18 or just large egos, narcissism, whatever, and it shows up in this narrative. That's the job of the narrative affidavit when you file with the EOC. The facts matter in the case. You have to do some learning and understanding about what discrimination is, what a breach of contract, although it's not applicable to the agency,
Starting point is 00:16:39 the breach of contract claims or representation claims. Everything gets put into the narrative, even though it's not covered by the agency itself, it's intended for the employer to read the entirety of your story about your claims. And you don't care who's going to read it because, and you don't care if you're going to engage in a future pissing match with the employer because you want to tell your story. Now, I'm going to caution you. If you don't have an attorney, there's a tendency for clients to overkill and over-emotional and over-dramatize the narrative.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm gonna encourage you, there's a way to save facts in your narrative in a very dramatic way, but not with the anger and type of vile language that some people use. You can just think about when you're writing, you're gonna read this vile language that some people use, you can just think about when you're writing, you're gonna read this thing in front of a jury. You're gonna wanna be professional
Starting point is 00:17:30 because you wanna be persuasive. It's a use of words and language have more effect than just, you know, blathering out emotions about why this employer sucks and why they didn't like you and you didn't get along with the manager. You gotta just push that aside. What do the facts state? And that's it. Do they show an example of disparate treatment because of your race, age, sex, whatever it is, and then tell the story in chronological order. Use dates, use information to your advantage.
Starting point is 00:18:06 You are witness to all this happen in front of you. Don't second guess yourself for inclusion, put it in there. And then read it to yourself several times. It's gonna take a while to create this thing. But with you having knowledge of what the EOC puts on their website about, you know, if it's reasonable accommodations and denial of that or it's discrimination based upon sex,
Starting point is 00:18:27 you have the law there. They've given it to you. It's on their website, eeoc.gov. State law is the same way, if not more liberal. Again, like California or New York City. So you have the information about what's illegal, but you don't have the facts, and that's what the affidavit does.
Starting point is 00:18:43 It puts forth the facts and causes you to basically synthesize what you experience with what actually is the law, and then you put it in paper in chronological order, okay? When you do that and you put a caption on it, like you put a caption on the top saying, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in the center of the page,
Starting point is 00:19:00 and you put a block quote, or you know, Sharon Jones versus Accenture and you put that her versus them, and you put a date and you put the EOC number, you've created a caption for the affidavit. And you put underneath that caption, you put charge affidavit of Sharon Jones. And then Sharon Jones duly deposes, states, and says,
Starting point is 00:19:23 and then you begin Sharon Jones lives here, her age is this, second paragraph, she worked at this, their address is that, and you then go as many paragraphs as you need to till the very end of the story, and then you put her notarization page at the bottom, and you get a notary, and you have that notarized, and you submit that with your Form 5 charge. That is how you create a successful EEOC complaint. Now, I don't spend client monies on their behalf with these agencies. I basically check the box and I move forward.
Starting point is 00:20:01 What I essentially do, and you don't have to do this, you can do what a lot of people do, which I don't really recommend, but you can sit around and wait for the EOC to do something. Well, let me pause. I'll pause further. The EOC's not gonna do anything for you. Anything.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Period. Don't expect it. Sorry, I'm being dramatic. So they don't do shit for you. So you have to be your own self advocate. And what I would recommend is that you file your case, check the box, get your USC number, get your state counterpart complaint file,
Starting point is 00:20:37 get that number as well. And then you request from the agencies a notice of right to sue. And you cause the clock to tick once you receive it because you have 90 days to file a suit. And you send and begin a process with the employer to negotiate. And you can do this with your attorney,
Starting point is 00:20:52 you hire and help them. But what you really want to do, what makes employers mad and drives them crazy is when they get pushed around. I push, I push really hard because they don't like it, because I figured that out over the years. Remember, I've been doing this for a long, long time. They don't like when they're confronted with the facts.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Somebody had a, it's like equivalent to a marriage and somebody had a cheating spouse and they got confronted on a text message or the video, whatever that was. The employers don't like to confront the reality that they either knew or should have known that was happening to one of their employees. OK, they generally know what's happening. I mean, just let's be clear about this. There's no innocent employer here.
Starting point is 00:21:42 OK, if you're if you believe that, you're insane. Okay, you really are insane. I make my entire livelihood and business, my professional life telling you that employers are fully aware of what they're doing. They do it intentionally and they use, I'll go even further, they use the at will implement rule to basically discriminate against people
Starting point is 00:22:01 and nothing's gonna stop them, okay? So yeah, I am twisted, but you know what? I'm made this way because of employers. Because, pause, more pause, deep breath, drama. What's Mark gonna say next? Because employers have shown me every possible freaking situation that they have created for their employees
Starting point is 00:22:23 over the 28 years I've lost track now that they have done to my clients. I've seen everything. I can read the matrix perfectly. I know exactly what's gonna happen. I know how to touch the weak spots and how to push the dagger up the ass because I just don't like it. I know it all. So I'm not just blowing smoke. This is a viewpoint I've garnered on behalf of clients painfully, emotionally, dramatically over the years, and you need to listen. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:22:56 No one else is gonna tell you this. No one. Go around search. You're not gonna find a viewpoint like mine ever. No one does it. I do it, because I don't give a shit. I want you to know about it. And if you have the guts to confront your employer,
Starting point is 00:23:11 you have the guts to engage in a emotional, mind-bending, pissing match, free lawsuit with the employer, that's what I do every day. If you wanna file lawsuits, we do that too. But filing successful EOC cases is really about using and marshaling the facts that you have, that you've witnessed. Don't undercut yourself. Don't underestimate what you've been exposed to.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Your memory of what happened can be used to create a circumstance to give you a severance package at the end of your unlawful termination while you're looking for a job. And these days, and this is now July 2024, job market's kind of softened and employers are trying to be picky and there's no more job switching anymore. Things are tough and the economy's kind of shaky
Starting point is 00:24:02 and political environment, whoa, that's really shaky right now if you look at the timeline. So it's really important to protect yourself. Information is knowledge and it's power for you. Listen to what I'm saying, take a hard look at what you're going through. Even if you're not fired yet, still heeding this advice
Starting point is 00:24:23 because eventually the ticket will arrive for you, that termination day will eventually happen because most people aren't guaranteed employment. You will eventually be in the spot that I'm talking about where you need to do something, and I'm trying to arm you with information to do it. All right, it's all there. It's free, it's a podcast, it's all it is.
Starting point is 00:24:44 The EOC.gov provides all the information for you. My website, capclaw.com, provides all the information. I mean, there's just tons of information there for you to absorb. Absorb it. Do yourself a, give yourself a gift of information. That's how I file successful EOC cases. Check the box, and I start screwing with the employer
Starting point is 00:25:07 really aggressively with my affidavit and then my federal complaint. And to make demands upon them threatening lawsuits, and you can do that too. Again, you can use an attorney, you can do it yourself, you know, fake it like you have one, but those are my thoughts for you in terms of filing successful complaints. Much different than you would see from any USC website that describes filing successful complaints. So heed the warning, heed the information, do what you will with it.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's just educational information, of course. But until next time, have a great day. If you like the Employee Survival Guide, I'd really encourage you to leave a review. We try really hard to produce information to you that's informative, that's timely, that you can actually use and solve problems on your own and at your employment. So if you'd like to leave a review anywhere you listen to our podcast, please do so. And leave five stars because anything less than five is really not as good, right? I'll keep it up.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I'll keep the standards up. I'll keep the information flowing at you. If you'd like to send me an email and ask me a question, I'll actually review it and post it on there. You can send it to mcaru at capclaw.com. That's capclaw.com.

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