Employee Survival Guide® - What's In Your Severance Negotiation Plan When the Recession Hits?

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

In this episode of the Employee Survival Guide®, Mark discusses that when 2022 recession wave begins to batter your employment status, do you have a plan to bail yourself out of the mess? Specificall...y, are you planning on receiving severance benefits via a company sponsored severance plan or are you going to build a case against your employer challenging the reason(s) for the termination and attempt to negotiate a settlement? Mark provides important strategies to follow during your next severance negotiation. This episode was written and produced by Mark Carey and edited by Matt Zako. Listen to the Employee Survival Guide podcast latest episode here  https://capclaw.com/employee-survival-guide-podcast/If you enjoyed this episode of the Employee Survival Guide please like us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn.  We would really appreciate if you could leave a review of this podcast on your favorite podcast player such as Apple Podcasts.For more information, please contact Carey & Associates, P.C. at 475-242-8317, www.capclaw.com .The content of this website is provided for information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice nor create an attorney-client relationship.  Carey & Associates, P.C. makes no warranty, express or implied, regarding the accuracy of the information contained on this website or to any website to which it is linked to.If you enjoyed this episode of the Employee Survival Guide please like us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. We would really appreciate if you could leave a review of this podcast on your favorite podcast player such as Apple Podcasts. Leaving a review will inform other listeners you found the content on this podcast is important in the area of employment law in the United States. For more information, please contact our employment attorneys at Carey & Associates, P.C. at 203-255-4150, www.capclaw.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Mark Carey here, and welcome to the next edition of the Employee Survival Guide, where I tell you what your employer does not want to know about and a lot more. Today's topic, we're going to be talking about what's in your severance package, or at least what's in your severance negotiation plan when the recession hits. Ugh, the sky is falling. The sky is falling. The recession is coming. That's a familiar beat from the media about the current or future recession. When that recession wave begins to batter your employment status, do you have a plan to bail yourself out of the mess? Specifically, are you planning on receiving
Starting point is 00:00:36 severance benefits via a company-sponsored severance plan, or are you going to build a case against your employer challenging the reasons for the termination and attempt to negotiate a settlement? For all practical purposes, there are two ways to receive severance benefits from your employer. The first type of severance benefit is through the company-sponsored severance plan. Check your HR portal to see if you have one. If that does not work, check freearissa.com, that's F-R-E-E-R-I-S-A dot com, to see if your employer filed a severance plan with the U.S. Department of Labor.
Starting point is 00:01:14 You are looking for a plan entitled severance or, quote, layoff benefits, and the plan number will always be 509, with a plan type of 4I, entitled severance pay. All public and private companies that maintain severance plans must file a Form 5500 with the U.S. Department of Labor. Once you confirm the existence of the severance plan, ask your HR department for a copy of the plan document. They have to provide it to you in response to your written request for it. If they do not provide a copy of the plan document, that is a violation of ERISA, the Employee Retirement Income Security Act, which is a federal law covering severance plans. Severance benefits under our plan are the floor for severance benefits. If you investigate your own facts
Starting point is 00:02:02 and determine there exists any form of discrimination or retaliation, or whistleblower, or breach of contract, whatever you may have, you can negotiate for more money, i.e. severance pay, on top of the existing severance plan benefits. The legal claims must be substantiated with a sworn affidavit. Otherwise, no employment attorney working for the company will take you seriously. You are not required to tell your employee you have an employment lawyer. I actually suggest you don't and keep the company wondering while at the same time you continue to negotiate directly with the company. You can hint you have an employment attorney in the background, but make sure you do your homework regarding your claims.
Starting point is 00:02:44 your homework regarding your claims. Any employment attorney working for the company will be able to spot whether or not you have an employment attorney by the contents of your internal communications, your agency complaints filed with the EOC, and state agencies. Even if you do have an employment attorney, you may want to keep the attorney hidden until the right time to bring this representation to the forefront of your negotiation. I have worked deals both as the client spokesperson and from behind the scenes, more often from behind the scenes. The second method, as hinted above, is to develop legal claims to assert against your employer. You can share your legal claims and demand for more severance with your employer, or former employer for that matter, for negotiation purposes. You can also file administrative complaints with the EEOC and your state fair implement practices agency.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Neither of these filings is public, even though the complaints are filed with governmental agencies. It is not until you file suit in court does your name become public on the Internet. It is not until you file suit in court does your name become public on the Internet. The negotiation with the employer should be done via email if you are not represented by an attorney. The email communication will avoid the most lethal weapon the employer uses, which is an examination of your present state of mind or psychology. What do I mean? I advise clients not to interact directly with their supervisors, executives, or human resource department personnel because employers are looking for hints to your level of insecurity, emotions, and merits of your claims. Any Zoom meeting or telephone call will
Starting point is 00:04:15 show if you are sweating the negotiation or just uneasy. Employers who discover your weakness will exploit them as a matter of routine practice and attempt to bargain like a rock. I'm not kidding. They will not give you what you want in the end. I even recently did an entire severance negotiation via email against an employer who was owned by a billionaire. I never spoke to the company's attorneys throughout the negotiation process, and they were not pleased. But that was the point. I wanted to appear that I was not approachable and unwavering in terms of my demands while I filed a volley of administrative complaints in two different federal agencies and with state and local fair employment practices agencies. This process drove the employer mad and facilitated the successful outcome of the case.
Starting point is 00:05:02 If you hit a wall with your severance negotiation, try this tactic. In a professional yet respectful tone, appear unwavering in your email correspondence. Tell them you will file administrative complaints and lawsuits if you do not get your way. Then stay true to your word and file your administrative complaints. Never falter when you make threats to initiate litigation. Most employers will back away and attempt to reach a settlement these days. I will warn you that most employers who discover you do not have an attorney will not bargain fairly with you. You typically know this is happening when the employer refuses to negotiate at all.
Starting point is 00:05:37 At this point, unfortunately, you have no choice but to hire an employment attorney to help you. But again, the attorney does not have to be in the forefront facing part of the negotiation with the employer. Quote, if you fail to plan, you are planning to fail. End quote. Benjamin Franklin. So get a plan and go kick some ass in your severance negotiation. If you'd like more information about this topic,
Starting point is 00:06:01 please contact Carrie and Associates PC on the web. Have a great week. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks.

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