Fairy Tale Fix - 85: Awwww ft. Caroline Donham
Episode Date: April 2, 2024This week we're joined by our longtime friend Caroline Donham! Caroline tells us her Red Riding Hood fix that she rewrote when she was little, and it's just as cute as you'd imagine. Then she tells us... some effed up nursery rhymes, and Abbie reads an even more effed up Brother's Grimm tale, The Heavenly Wedding.
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I mean, they CGI'd Keira Knightley's boobs in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie, right?
Yes.
But those looked very convincing.
Yeah, I was about to say, I remember them looking really good.
I was watching very closely and it looked great.
It did look great.
In a totally, in the straightest possible way, I was sure at the time.
I could not not look at her boobs. Hello, and welcome to Fairytale Fix.
This is the podcast... What?
Why are you trying to interrupt my intro?
That's very rude.
This is the podcast where we read each other classic fairy tales from around the world
and then fix them for a modern audience or for ourselves and for you, dear listeners.
I'm Kelsey.
I'm Abby.
Sorry, Kelsey.
That's okay.
I'm Abby. Sorry, Kelsey.
That's okay.
And today we have an extremely special guest, one of our best friends of all time, Caroline.
Hello, hello. It's me. I'm Caroline. It's you.
If you're a patron, you'll actually recognize Caroline's beautiful voice. She was a guest on one of our bonus bonus episodes.
Hopefully, it's a little better sounding this time than it was last time.
Yeah, looks like you got like a much more professional looking setup.
Sort of kind of.
That's a more, that's a, it's, hey, I mean, it's not a headset mic,
which automatically makes it a more professional setup.
That is true. It's a pretty cool mic that my techie husband was able to provide to me.
Nice. And are you in a closet?
I am in the closet. It's the best setup for me. It's the quietest part of my whole house.
During that minute of silence, it was just like thundering rain.
Like all I could hear was just the rain pounding on my roof.
It's kind of nice.
Giving it a little,
a little ambiance.
It's lovely.
It's a lovely day to read a book and fix the fairy tale.
Absolutely.
We're so,
we're so fucking excited to have you back and excited to hear your fairy tales. But
first we want to ask where, like, tell us about yourself and where people can find you and what,
what your whole thing is. So Caroline, what's your whole thing? What's my whole thing? I have
no idea. It's like what you're into or what you're about.
Right? You don't even know who I am. So I'm Caroline, and I am a language nerd. I'm a nerd
of lots of different kinds. I am a speech-language pathologist, and I particularly work with a lot
of individuals who are not able to use their mouth to speak.
So they are considered non-speaking or partially speaking, and they use what's called AAC or
augmentative or alternative communication forms. And then I run a social group or like a group for
people to practice AAC if they want. And it's called Out and About. It is Greater
Sacramento area Out and About AAC group. And we meet three times a year virtually and just kind
of hang out and use AAC to communicate with each other. It's pretty cool. And you can find out more
about that at carecommunicates.gmailmail.com what you do never sounds less impressive
anytime you say it legitimately no legitimately you are so cool uh whenever you talk about what
you do and the kind of work you do i'm just always like wow caroline's so smart caroline's
cool awesome caroline caroline is so good at taking care of people.
And the passion behind it, too.
I feel like I've known you since, what, we were 15 or 16, something like that?
Yeah, we've known each other for 19 years now, Kelsey.
Oh, my God.
That's like almost two decades.
I know.
Oh, my God. We're getting so old.
Mm-hmm.
But, yeah, I feel like you've always had that.
You've always been very inclusive and caring and I mean,
that's just like the perfect handle for you.
Oh, thanks.
I appreciate that.
I mean, that's the point of communication is to connect and care about each other.
So yeah, but that's why I like your guys' podcast too, That's the point of communication is to connect and care about each other. So, yeah.
But that's why I like your guys' podcast, too, because that's what fairy tales do. You know, the fairy tales, like, share culture.
They connect and communicate something important about that culture and connect generations and teach lessons.
And it's pretty awesome.
Hell, yeah.
Well, you just made us sound smart. I appreciate that. I know. Like, you know what? it's pretty awesome hell yeah well you just made us sound smart i appreciate i know like you know what it is pretty awesome i was like i was thinking about it i was thinking
about it the other day and i was like this is literally the perfect utilization of your degrees
for cultural anthropology this is very applicable to that you know know? Yeah. Very. Yeah. We really did choose anthropology for fun,
for funsies. Yeah, for sure. For sure. But that's what I love about it too, you know? So
I'm glad that you guys were able to make something out of it, which is awesome.
You know, you actually might be able to settle a question that we had on our bonus episode,
which it hasn't come out yet as of this recording. So I know you haven't been able to listen to it
yet. But there is a character in the story that Kelsey read me that is referred to as like deaf
and dumb. And we were wondering if if calling someone dumb is like offensive to people who can't speak. Yes. And it, that particular term was used not to,
it was originally meant as mute. Like when you were saying deaf and dumb, it was
technically meaning deaf and mute, not necessarily deaf and less intelligent but because right yeah
but because they had such a like a um pervasive ableism has really perpetuated and culture has
morphed the word dumb to be less intelligent and so yeah yeah that's definitely offensive in today's
so that would be definitely something to fix in a, in a fairy tale,
you know?
I know we kept,
um,
the book kept saying deaf and dumb and I was like,
I don't,
I don't love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know what else to say.
That's the point of this podcast,
right?
Is to identify those,
those problematic terminology and,
and help our modern audience know about those kinds of things.
So they don't per continue to, don't continue to perpetuate them.
So would mute be the appropriate word?
If you had to replace it, but most people who are not able to use their mouths to speak
prefer the term right now, non-speaking. It's even more so than the term non-verbal.
The thought behind that is non-verbal means that you don't have something to say,
that you don't have words. Being verbal is using words. So non-verbal means you don't have words
to say, which is not necessarily the case. There's lots of different ways that you can still
use words specifically to communicate, but it's not necessarily moving your mouth in a way to
make those words. Using something assistive technology like an AAC device.
Fun fact, that's actually one of the reasons we stopped using the term blind reading i don't know if anyone has noticed but we used to like read a book that we are a story that we hadn't read before we
would call it a blind reading and i was like that's i feel like that sounds a little ableist
and off so we started calling them random readings yeah i'd be curious to see what um
a visually impaired person would have to do about that too. Because I know there's a lot
of different camps in that. Like some are like, well, you can't police all language. Language
developed for a reason. But at the same time, being sensitive to those populations is important
too. So, I'd be, I can't, you know, get my two cents one way or the other. I like to usually
get the perspectives of that community firsthand. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't, I can't figure out what I would call it if it's like,
for example, like if I had a story that I had already picked, then I'm like, I haven't read
it though, but it's not, so it's not random. Right. Or like going on a blind date. Like,
you don't know who you're going to, you know what I mean? that's so i i don't think i i don't think
um we have the uh firsthand perspective to be able to give a definite judgment on it one way
or the other you know what i mean but it'd be it'd be very interesting to ask somebody a part
of that community what they think about it.
I'm going to accost the next non-seeing person.
There you go.
And be like, I need you to figure this out. There you go.
I need you to make a definitive ruling on behalf of all people.
Everyone, yeah.
Yeah, that's another thing is, you know, even people within that community are going to disagree.
Yeah.
Just like any other, you know, body diverse community too.
Is that language interesting?
Yeah.
No wonder I'm such a nerd about it.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
You made that your whole life, don't you think?
Yeah, it pretty much is.
It's literally your whole life, don't you think? Yeah, it pretty much is. It's literally my whole life.
Is it communication and the different ways that we go about doing that just so horribly, terribly fascinating?
I mean, I could literally talk about it for the rest of my life.
And I mean that literally, not figuratively.
And you probably will.
A little break in between. You probably will. A little break in between.
You definitely will.
Absolutely.
Well, moving on to a couple of our more standard questions.
So thank you.
Thank you for fielding that one, Caroline.
It literally just came to me that are like, oh, how cool that we're having Caroline on this episode when.
That just happened.
Yeah.
That just happened.
that just happened.
Yeah, that just happened.
What is your favorite childhood fairy tale?
And how would you fix it?
Well, have I got a treat for you guys today?
Because very much like Kelsey,
my favorite childhood fairy tale is Little Red Riding Hood.
Heck yeah. And I fairytale is little red riding hood heck yeah um and i i have a lot of fixes for it
so much so that i just rewrote it i love that um and that is the story that i will be telling you you guys today. And it kind of follows, it's kind of like a blended, well, I have ADHD. So
I would catch bits and pieces of stories and then blend them in my head. And that's totally
what I did with Little Red Riding Hood and Robin Hood. And-
Is that how you fixed it? Did you smush Red Riding Hood together with Robin Hood. And is that how you fixed it? Did you did you smush Red Riding Hood together with
Robin Hood? I kind of did a little bit. I am so hyped for that. That sounds awesome. I'm,
I'm ready. Let's do it. I'm so glad you're excited. And it's more so because my name as a child was Robin. So Kelsey knows that very well.
And I know Abby knows that too, but to the rest of the world who doesn't know. Yeah. So I didn't
actually know my name was Caroline until I was six years old. So all of my like early childhood
fairy tales, if they had Robin in them and I will tell you,
there's a lot of Robins in fairy tales and nursery rhymes.
They are all over the place.
So I like conflated them and I was like,
you know,
little red riding hood has to have a name,
like an actual name.
So her name's Robin.
That would be a perfect name for a little red riding hood too.
Right.
I love that.
Totally.
All right.
So I'm not going to give you guys any spoilers.
Are we getting right into it or did you want to tell us your thoughts on Damsel too?
Because I think both of you had follow-up thoughts.
Real quick, I have a really interesting fix.
So this is just to people who listened to our bonus
episode we uh had like a conversation about damsel um so if you want and we're still thinking about
it so yeah if you want to listen to our conversation on that one uh you will have to sign up for our Patreon. But hey, give us $6.
$6.
You get a whole month. Or $20 like I do.
Yes.
Caroline,
you're such a good friend.
And then you get a T-shirt
and stuff.
I love your sweater,
by the way, Caroline.
I know.
She's wearing a sweater
that says,
just say chicken.
Just say chicken.
But anyway,
so yeah,
if you want to listen
to that conversation,
just head on over
to our Patreon.
It is fairytalefix.cash or patreon.com forward slash fairytalefixpod.
Anywho, so really interesting.
I have not heard this conversation yet, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
No spoilers.
No spoilers about Damsel whatsoever.
Loads of spoilers over on our bonus out.
Okay.
But this was really interesting was we were talking about if there was like what book it was based on.
And we found a book, but it said like based on the screenplay.
And we were like, okay, it's just a screenplay adapted into a book, which we were like, man, now we don't want to read it.
We were wrong.
Our wonderful patron, Rabia, sent me a message.
And she actually contacted the author.
She's amazing.
And asked her about it.
And she was like, no.
That's really cool.
I know.
I can't believe y'all got some sort of connect.
Rabia doing our research for it.
That's amazing.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Rabia was doing her research.
So she messaged the author and the author said that's actually the correct book that
Evelyn, I'm sorry, her name's Evelyn.
Evelyn Skye.
Yeah, Evelyn Skye.
So she wrote it and she said, it says based on a screenplay because that's a Hollywood
requirement, even if the movie and book stories are somewhat different. sky so she wrote and she said it says based on a screenplay because that's a hollywood requirement
even if the movie and book stories are somewhat different and then she also goes on to say so if
you're interested in the book we'll put a link in our show notes because i'm probably going to buy
it and listen to it now i hope you enjoyed the movie and will now enjoy the book it has some
significant differences including the ending oh i'm cute well the thing is i love the ending i
know you so how different is it how different are we talking evelyn very interesting so i think huge
shout out thank you to rabia for checking on that because we just assumed it was like a screenplay
made into a book and we were like, meh. Yeah.
Wouldn't have bought that. I was like,
well,
then I know the story.
Like,
because like,
if this is just the novelization of the film,
then like,
yeah,
you know,
I guess that's some weird requirement.
So yeah,
I'm definitely going to check out the book now.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Cause I want to know the differences too.
Yeah.
That's always so cool.
Oh my gosh.
I love it.
Love it.
Love it.
Yeah.
Caroline, do you have some
spoiler light thoughts um or would you like to share your spoiler heavy thoughts with us some
other some other time in some other place oh goodness i mean i'm trying to i'm trying to
think about how i can word things that will not be spoilery. That thing that happened? Yeah, that thing that happened.
With that one person?
Yeah.
And those things,
you know, and then that other thing,
and then that guy,
and then that chick,
and then, you know, just all of it.
That's such a good point, Caroline.
That was the whole movie, okay?
that's such good point that was the whole movie okay um this is not really spoilery whatsoever but why in the world did they have to cg her lips
so hardcore oh do you know what i'm talking about okay not not millie bobby brown's lips the of course the speech therapist would notice
yeah you were you were watching everyone's mouths that makes perfect sense oh my gosh
um okay what's the queen's name oh robin wright? I don't know what the character's name is, but Robin Wright plays.
Let me look it up really, really fast.
Yes, Robin Wright.
It's Robin Wright's character.
They CGI'd her mouth so hardcore and it drove me nutso.
Nutso.
Do we watch it now?
Was it because they changed what she said, maybe?
No, I think it's just-
Oh, did they ADR a different line in?
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure they were trying to de-age her or make her look artificially de-aged, maybe.
Like, I almost got the sense that there was like subplot that was giving that direction.
But hey, I don't know.
I could be completely wrong.
I'm looking.
No, it's too CGI not to notice, though.
You have to look at it when it's in motion. No, you can't tell when it's in still.
But when it's in motion you can tell it's it's
intense and that's not a spoiler that's just a nitpicky spoiler that's gonna ruin the movie for
people it will ruin the movie for some of us neurodivergent people that are gonna be like oh
no okay let's get your laid on us. Okay.
Do you guys want to make prediction for fixes?
For what your mashup of Red Riding Hood and Robin Hood is going to be?
Absolutely.
I would like to make some predictions, please.
Yes.
Are one of y'all going to write them down or do I need to?
Kelsey's going to write them down.
Sweet.
You know what, Kelsey?
Every time I listen to the episode, I literally picture your hands writing them down.
Because I know how your hands look when you're handwriting stuff.
I know.
My weird, the way it holds my phone.
I love it.
It's so elegant looking to me.
I love it.
Kelsey's classy.
Well, thank you.
I have a lot of people be like, that's weird.
No, she's got those piano hands.
Yes. Very intentional. Very got those piano hands. Yes.
Very intentional.
Very graceful.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Abby, you go first.
What are your predictions?
Okay.
Hmm.
Okay.
Okay.
The wolf has been replaced with the merry men
that's a really awesome prediction that's a solid prediction right it really is actually
um wait real fast is this fairy tale What's this fairy tale mashup fix rating?
Like, what percentage is it mashed up?
No, no, no.
What's its rating?
Is it PG?
Is it R?
Oh, it's G.
It's G.
Okay.
Okay.
Maybe PG-13, but G for the most part.
So, like, Lola could watch the movie.
Yeah.
I've changed one of my predictions.
I know.
So this version is like
the childhood
like little Robin
inside of me rewrote this.
Okay. Aw, that's so cute.
That's so cute.
Okay, sorry, Abby. go on second place with the merry man red riding hood uh is their leader or becomes their leader she's there
and the overarching major enemy of the story is very much still the tax collectors
i like that too enemy of the story is very much still the tax collectors. Oh.
I like that too.
Okay.
I was immediately thinking it was going to be so much
dirtier.
We're having a hard time.
My prediction is Red Riding Hood is like Robin Hood and she's the one stealing.
It's a good prediction too.
Yeah.
I mean,
Red Riding Hood,
Robin Hood,
they both got the hood.
They both got the hood.
They both got the hood.
Now that you mentioned it,
that is,
that is such a, that is such a good prediction.
I'm a little embarrassed I didn't think of it.
Little Caroline.
Oh, little Robin.
I think Red Riding Hood tames the wolf.
I like that prediction too.
Like a pet.
Is that three predictions or two predictions?
Is that all?
That's two.
I've got one more.
Okay.
So my third prediction is, oh my gosh, I don't know.
Red Riding Hood is a Robin Hood Hood Red Riding Hood tames the wolf
I'm gonna predict you inserted a witch
that's so good
I'm really trying to think of what little Carolyn might do
I bet she did
oh my goodness oh land oh my gosh okay
all right i love those predictions those are the best predictions ever oh my gosh okay
all right so um without further ado it is little red robin hood so cute okay so Little Red Robin Hood. Yay! So cute.
Okay.
So.
I'm so excited.
There once was a little girl named Robin who lived in a town with her parents and her little brother, Beau.
Aw.
Aw.
Jimmy!
Sorry.
Caroline has an actual little brother and
we
we actually
did call him
Bo
like Jimbo
aww
oh yep
nice
aww
aww
I should have
predicted she had
a brother
god damn it
her grandparents
all lived
out of town
but the closest
grandparent
was her
dear grandmother
Mary
uh Robin called her grandma and grandma called her a couple of different names including
robbie or little red or little robin hood or any combination thereof
um and that was because robin loved to wear her bright red writing cloak that had a hood and pockets that were accessible from the inside and the outside.
Yes, the dream.
And that was because Robin loved to wear her bright red writing cloak that had a hood and pockets that were accessible from the inside and the outside.
Hell yes.
Hell yeah.
Pockets, pockets, pockets.
I know, right?
A cloak is nothing without pockets.
Robin's parents liked her to wear it when she was outside on her own
so that she could easily be spotted amongst the trees and bushes that was their backyard.
One afternoon, Robin's mom got a call from grandma
explaining that she couldn't attend the tea party that they had planned for that day because she was feeling under the weather.
Robin's mom, whose name was Sue, had the idea.
Was her name Sue?
Of course it was.
This is little kid Robin.
This is coming from experience.
And everybody has a name.
Everybody has a name. That's right. It's very important in fairy tales. It really is.
Sue had the idea to send her daughter with a care basket that included like soup and tea
and lemons and honey and apples and dried meats and cheeses and all that good, good stuff.
Robin was thrilled to go. She felt honored that she could be trusted to go on her own.
And Robin's father told her to make sure that she kept her cloak on and not to talk to anyone and not to walk in the dark. Her mother added to call when she got to grandma's and not to forget the basket
on the way back. Robin donned her cloak and took the basket that Sue had packed with the care
packages and pat Bo on the head as she said farewell. She started to take the familiar
route down the street by the library, turning at the gas station past the
cemetery until you reach the tree line. There's a neighborhood of fancy but small houses and then
the neighborhood becomes sparse with acres of forest between the properties that run along a
windy river. I love this. Oh, great descriptions, Caroline. You like my imagery there? Yeah,
you're really printing a beautiful picture here. I love the details.
Over the river and through the woods to grandmother's house we go.
I do.
Along the way near the gas station, Red Robin Hood felt something watching her.
She passed the station hearing a dog, one that she thought kind of looked like a wolf with its mangy hair, his gaunt but big figure,
and yellow eyes and snarling teeth. Robin slowly walked by, non-threatening,
as she passed the creature, but still kept feeling that watched sensation.
At the stoplight before entering the tree line past the cemetery, she heard a gruff voice ask her where she was going.
Where are you going, little girl?
That's such a good voice.
I really like to do voices in stories.
Oh, um, to my grandma's house.
Oh, is all that yummy smelling food for her?
He said hungrily.
Yeah, she's sick and this can feed her for a while.
Robin blabbered.
Little blabber mouth.
Shut up, Robin.
Yeah, for real.
She needs to not give so many details.
Ranger danger.
Uh-huh. Robin. Yeah, for real. She needs to not give so many details. Ranger danger. Well, she's
lucky to have such a good little
granddaughter. Have a safe
trip.
Thank you.
I know.
Gross, right?
Nothing more
red flaggy than like take care no you take care
thank you she said to the towering man in all black with a ratty oversized hat and a long beard
he also had strange yellow eyes, just like the wolves.
Oh my God. Kelsey, neither of us guessed there was going to be a werewolf in this story. We're
so dumb. Yeah. God, you're right. Well, she said it was rated G.
Sorry. We're not so dumb. We're very not intelligent. Oh, my goodness. Okay, so Robin kept walking, and while the stranger walked on the other side of the street, she never lost that sense of being watched.
She decided that she might quicken her pace to Grandma's house.
Smart girl.
She got there and knocked on her grandma's door.
Who is it? Grandma yelled from deep in the house it's me little red robbie hood i'm here with the basket mom packed for you
come on in child little red robin hood solid old lady voice oh yeah I love my old lady voice. Come get comfy. So Robin went in, she took off her cloak
and put it over the chair. She put the basket on the table and started to unpack all of the good
foods from the care package. She put away the fruits, meats, and cheeses and then started to
warm up two bowls of soup and served two cups of tea. Oh, Robbie, what good food this is.
All the better to take care of you, Grandma.
Aw.
Aw.
Daw.
Aw.
We get our first classic line.
And after sharing some stories and laughs and Grandma getting tired,
it was quickly approaching dark
and Robin had to go. So she grabbed her cloak and then gave her grandma a kiss and rushed out of the
house yelling, see you tomorrow, grandma. Love you. As her grandma fell asleep. And Robin was in a
hurry. She ran through the forest and the fancy neighborhood, passed the cemetery,
and got to the stoplight. The light turned
on to walk and Robin started
to run. She only
got pulled back against
her efforts by her red cloak
that was held by none
other than the wolf
from earlier in the day.
Oh no! Oh no! wolf from earlier in the day. Robin unclasped her cloak as she screamed and ran as fast as she could,
turning at the gas station, running down the street past the library until she got to her
home where she slammed the door, panting and crying. Her mother, father, and little brother were stunned.
Then they were worried.
Then they started bombarding her with questions about what happened.
Is grandma okay?
Where's your cloak?
Where's the basket?
All good questions.
My family was really intense.
A family that loves you in a fairy tale?
Exactly.
Caroline, this was supposed to be believable.
Well, it was my dream, okay?
Uh-huh.
Okay.
So Robin was overwhelmed and crying until she processed the last question about the basket.
She had forgotten it at Grandma last question about the basket. She had forgotten
it at grandma's and in the rush. Then the wolf and dog had ripped off her cloak. And then on the way
home, and she explained it all to her family. And they hugged her and they told her it was going to
be okay. And her parents told her that they will all go and get everything tomorrow. Maybe they
could find the cloak along the way,
that maybe it was dropped by the dog.
So they all settled and rested for the night.
Meanwhile, a knock, knock, knock pounded on Grandma's door.
Who is it?
Because she fell asleep.
It was a snort effect.
That's so good.
That was the perfect snore awake.
It's me.
You're.
A squeaky voice tried to say.
Your granddaughter.
Oh, it must be morning already.
I felt like I barely slept, said Grandma as she opened her eyes.
She saw the tip of the red cloak through the little peephole of her door, the little window
of her door. So she thought it was Little Red Robin Hood. And she saw the basket that Robin
had left on the table. So she looked to the door and strange, it still
seemed to be dark, but maybe it was just cloudy. So she could see the little tip of Robin Hood's
hood and waddled slowly to the door. When she opened it, her eyes felt like they were bulging
out of their skull and playing tricks on her. Robin's cloak was on a scrawny looking man dressed in dark clothes
he was covered with hair and he lunged at grandma knocking her out cold from her head hitting the
ground the wolf slash man so ding ding ding for werewolf that nobody guessed. I know. God damn it.
I feel very foolish.
I know. I really thought Kelsey was going
to guess werewolf too.
Yeah. Kelsey, you really
usually try to put...
Wow.
She usually tries to put werewolf in Red
Riding Hood however she can.
You know what? I answered it a witch. That's true. I predicted a witch. She usually tries to put werewolves in Red Riding Hood however she can. So I'm surprised she didn't put in this one.
I feel like I answered in a witch.
That's true.
I predicted a witch.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay.
So the wolf man had stuffed grandma into a wardrobe and also took a set of matching clothing that she was wearing.
So like a long white nightgown and a puffy white cap.
Grandma's phone was ringing, but the wolf dare not pick it up. The answering machine turned it on.
See, modern twist. The answering machine turned on and it was Robin's mom explaining that Robin
and her father would be returning the next day to get the basket and to look for her cloak as it got lost on the way home.
The wolfman got nervous and he had to figure out a way to stay to be able to get everything that he wanted.
So he wanted to eat all of that yummy food from the basket.
He also wanted to eat that old lady.
That could keep him fed for a week.
Absolutely.
Because he wasn't really partial to old meat, though.
He liked young and strong meat.
So he came up with a plan.
Aging bones.
Yep.
You know, young chicken and old chicken taste a little different, you know.
So he came up with a plan.
Robin and her father were coming and he could play the long game and get some delicious meat, stay in this cozy home and be fed for a couple of months, he was sure.
So he grabbed a matching nightgown and cap from the wardrobe, as I'd said before before and snacked on some of the dried meat before
um he spoiled his appetite and he laid in grandma's bed and fell asleep grandma faded in and out of
consciousness while she was stuck in the wardrobe so we're sad for grandma but at least she's not
eaten quite yet she's not in his belly yeah no yeah we haven't gotten there i used to i i'll talk about
that after actually okay um the next morning robin and her father and i decided to name him hunter
because it's always the hunter that is like the protector very nice okay of little red robinhood
little red riding hood whatever um so her father hunter walked to grandma's house as they approached Oh, very nice. Okay. Of Little Red Robin Hood. Little Red Riding Hood. Whatever.
So her father, Hunter, walked to grandma's house. As they approached, they noticed that the door was just barely ajar.
Robin's father said that he was going to check out the outside after he took a quick peek in to see that grandma's nightcap and gown were moving rhythmically with loud snores echoing through the house. So Hunter thought that grandma's fine. He's going to check out the outside.
And Hunter instructed Robin to go in and check on her grandma while he looked around.
Robin entered the house and was struck with fear when she spotted her cloak
and heard the unfamiliar breathing noises. She slowly approached the sleeping, snoring pajamas,
and all of the sudden, the snores turned into a choking and clearing of throat.
Okay.
A strange, gravelly voice emerged from the figure, mimicking Grandma.
The imposter turned sleepily to address Robin.
Oh, my grandchild.
You startled me.
Yes, do it again.
Oh, my grandchild, you startled me.
Grandma, you are sick.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay.
Forgive my appearance and voice.
I'm feeling a bit sick.
Sensing something strange and similar to the cautious feeling that she had from the wolf from yesterday um she didn't want to get eaten right away she decided to play along with the
plan smart smart super smart yep so first she decided to heat up the soup over the stove in a To play along with the plan. Smart. Smart. Super smart. Yep.
So first, she decided to heat up the soup over the stove in a big pot, just like she had done the day before.
Oh, Grandma, what big ears you have, referring to the large hairy ears that the figure had.
All the better to hear you with, my dear. Oh, Grandma, what big eyes you have, she said loudly enough for anyone who might be in the next room or right outside the window could hear.
All the better to see you with, my dear.
Oh, Grandma, what big hands you have.
All the better to hug you with my dear and he grabbed her and
held her in an awkward hug and she started to get scared but kept kept fighting hoping her father
would hear her and come help while he's like grabbing a hold of her he's like yeah no i know
but it would make me less uncomfortable if you tried
to eat her right away.
Yeah.
The awkward head point.
Please, no.
Just eat me.
Just eat me.
So she kept trying to wiggle
out, but then she still
said, oh, granny,
what big teeth you have.
Robin yelled with terror in her voice all the better to eat you with my dear the wolf in disguise exclaimed as he opened his mouth
adjusted his grip on robin and then felt hot scalding liquid pour all over his head, his
back, and his shoulders.
He shrieked.
We like this. Yes, we do.
Sorry, I'm getting excited now. I'm getting louder.
He
shrieked and let go of Robin
as Hunter proceeded to hit
him in the head with a pot of soup
repeatedly until the wolf
was no longer at risk of consciousness
at risk of consciousness is a great line worthy of james finn gardner oh yeah i'm glad you liked it
go on your dad hell yeah robin scooted backwards along the floor away from the bed until she bumped into the armoire.
She heard a distinct groan come from inside and startling Robin's attention to the groaning furniture.
Robin opened the twin doors and found her real grandmother crumpled at the bottom.
Grandma, she called robbie
grandma replied
robin's father rushed over to check the scene he found robin crying and kneeling by the large
wooden furniture that held mary like a cradle and she was trying to catch her breath.
He checked her, found the nearest blanket, and wrapped it around her.
He scooped her up and took Grandma to the car parked in her garage
while hollering to Robin to follow him and get in.
Robin's dad took them directly to the ER where Grandma got seen by the doctor,
and Robin's dad called his wife and gave a police report to the officers and told them about the wolf that should still be unconscious in the house.
Grandma slowly recovered, but decided to move in with Robin, Bo, Sue and Hunter.
And they lived happily ever after.
The end. That was so cute it wasn't so much a blend of like
robin hood storyline caroline that had nothing to do with nothing to do with robin hood other
little red riding hood robin yes i feel duped i feel misled you told me that was a great prediction and it was in fact not
a great prediction.
But
Robin saves the day.
And that is the other concept that connects
it to Robin Hood is that Robin saves
the day. Okay.
So I get that point. Red Riding Hood
is Robin Hood.
Yes.
Technicality.
I leaned way too Red Riding Hood is Robin Hood. Yes. Oh, no. Technicality. Yeah.
I leaned way too hard into thinking that this had anything to do with Robin Hood.
I almost told you at the beginning that it's not really storyline.
It's more nomenclature.
It was me.
No, it's better this way.
It's funnier.
It's really a Little Red Robin,
Little Red Riding Hood fix.
I really called it Little Red Robin Hood
when I was little.
Of course you did.
That's super cute.
Little Red Robin Hood.
I catch myself on it all the time.
Yeah, I can't believe none of us guessed werewolf i feel like that's just too old like that may have been almost too
predictable maybe or too like but that's how i used to see it when i was like i knew it was like a
like a predatory dude and then it was also a wolf you know so i blended it nice i like it neurodivergent little
brain but hey that's how modern twist yeah and like that's how that's how fairy tales happen
you know like it's little twists and turns and retellings that that make them perpetuate through
time i mean i'm gonna start i'm gonna start
telling it as little red robin hood from now on nice you know we can get enough energy going
behind this in a couple hundred years we will have changed the name of this story hell yeah
let's do it it's a pet my favorite fix though is kelsey's fix which is um that little red little red riding hood gets turned
into a werewolf also oh yeah yeah i love that one it's good stuff it's the classic
yeah we went way off the rails on that one. Mm-hmm. Wasn't it like, yeah, it was like Red Riding Hood's a werewolf and also Grandma's a werewolf.
Yes, and Grandma's a werewolf, too.
And now they're both fighting crime.
And they're basically just Baba Yaga in the future.
We decided that they were basically going to form a werewolf pack together.
Yes.
Yep.
I loved it. And create more werewolves.
Yep, that was my favorite.
My absolute favorite fix.
Me too. I love that fix.
But I also, I do, I like your version of the
story where like Red
Riding Hood gets out of the situation by using
her own cleverness. And then
also by
like getting help.
Yes, signaling for help out how to summon help.
Yeah.
Without alerting her attacker.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
That was a good rewrite,
Caroline.
I liked that.
Thank you.
Good imagery.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Great imagery.
Honestly,
no fixes.
Oh,
nice.
My fix is that it had something to do with Robin Hood.
I know.
Actually, when you were making your predictions, I was like, damn, that would have been a really good one.
Make him a robber?
Like, make the wolf a robber?
Like, that's a really good one.
I could still totally rewrite and re-edit it to make him a robber.
I think you should.
And then you should tell it to me again with the robin hood element yeah also i don't know this is like
a total like weird random thought about just the name robin hood i literally this morning was like
oh he's robin people that's why he's named robin he's robin he sure is he's robin the hood he's robbing people that's why he's named robin he's robbing people he sure is he's robbing the
hood he's a robbing people he's he's robbing this hood let's see it if you do rewrite it again make
sure to insert a witch i will actually i thought about i thought about making the grandma witch
i thought making the grandma which would be totally appropriate. It is not too much.
You should do all of these things.
I am.
I think I'm gonna further rewrite.
And then the popular children's book that you absolutely could sell to some
publisher.
We could also put it in our book.
That's going to be a choose your own adventure.
Yes.
We put it in our book.
Oh yeah.
There we go. That's the way to do it yeah there we go that's the way to do it
oh yeah way to do it we have some edits but have so many different alternative endings dude i know right oh i love it i love it love it all right so share share the mother goose stuff
oh yes okay so my other thing that I wanted to share with everybody today was some classic Mother Goose.
What?
Because these are classic AF and they are some fucked up limericks, man.
Talk about fucked up fairy tales.
There are a lot of little just two line fairy tales,
you know,
like two line,
two sentence horror stories.
These are like two line,
two line horror story fairy tales.
I think I've mentioned on the podcast how like,
I thought this book was cursed when I was a kid.
Like mom was telling me all the horrible like things behind some of the
nursery rhymes.
And I was like,
this book is cursed.
And I was freaked out. Like The ring around the rosy shit.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Well, this is our first example. Are you guys ready?
Oh, yes.
Ladybird, ladybird, fly away home.
Your house is on fire
and your children will burn.
That's just the first one.
Why? That was the picture i don't see any children on fire that's a nice no it's the ladybugs children
oh wait but her pick for her pick they're not on fire though well you can't see any fire i don't
know but there's the ladybird. I don't know.
The child is just putting bad stuff,
bad juju into the world.
Because there's a kid with a magnifying glass
doing that thing.
Do you know what the history is?
I don't know.
Are you ready?
There's some sexy ones in here too.
Are you ready?
I like little pussy.
Her coat is so warm.
Yeah, you do.
And if I don't hurt her,
she'll do me no harm.
So I'll not pull her tail
nor drive her away.
But pussy and I will very
gently play.
Wow.
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
And of course, it's a cute little toddler
with petting a kitty cat.
It's a cute little pussy.
Cat.
What a pretty little pussy.
That's good advice.
It is good advice,
especially if you are a coyote in that one story.
You play real gentle or it will bite you literally but he likes it if it bites him
a little just a little just a little little nip little nip this one was pretty sexy too
about the bush willie about the beehive about the bush willie i'll meet thee alive
that's it that's the whole one. All right.
We also have some classics that have obviously been rewritten to be more positive than their original intent.
Are you ready for this one?
Yes.
Baa Baa Black Sheep.
Have you any wool?
Yes, Mary, have I three bags full.
One for my master, one for my dame, but none for the little boy who cries in the lane.
Oh.
I know.
Sad twist, right?
And this little boy is crying.
Oh, well.
Wow.
You know what? He's expressing how he feels.
He's expressing his emotions, and that's okay.
No, it's not okay, because then he's not going to get any wool from the sheep.
Boys shouldn't cry.
Don't cry.
Boys don't cry.
That's right.
People are allowed to express their emotions.
That's right.
But they're not allowed to go on adventures, as this one shows.
Three children sliding on the ice upon a summer's day as it fell out they all fell in the rest they ran away oh have these children
been at school or sliding on dry ground ten thousand pounds to one penny they had not when
they'd been drowned ye parents who have children dear and ye too who have none.
If you would keep them safe
abroad, pray keep them safe
at home.
Jesus.
PSA. How morbid.
It's just the PSA for thin
eyes. Yeah, this is like
the 1800s version
of like the 80s commercial of
like, it's nine o'clock.
Do you know where your children are?
Exactly what it is.
I like Mother Goose like fulfilling that function.
Did you let your children outside to play on thin ice?
This one was a warning.
He's already dead.
Totally.
This one was a warning about not taking too small a boat to go somewhere.
Three wise men of Gotham went to sea in a bowl.
And if the bowl had been stronger, my song had been longer.
Wow.
Oh, I love that art.
That sounds like some stand-up comedy
my song have been longer that's my dad that's cold i love that one okay
oh this one's for you kelsey okay yay there was an old woman tossed in a blanket
17 times as high as the moon.
But where she was going, no mortal could tell,
for under her arm she carried a broom.
Old woman, old woman, old woman, said I,
wither, ah, wither, ah, wither so high
to sweep the cobwebs from the sky
and I'll be with you bye and bye
this art's very pretty i like this isn't it so cute we'll have to get some pictures up on the
instagram oh yeah i'll definitely i'll definitely send you some okay and maybe a link to the book
if it's still sold i think it is i think i think so all right
are you ready now we get some some um some lgbt representation in this one oh i love it please
yeah me too gotta gotta share my peeps all right robin and richard were two pretty men
they stayed in bed till the clock struck 10. And up starts
Robert and looks at the sky.
Oh, brother Richard, the sun's
very high. You go
before with the bottle and bag,
and I will come after on little
jack-nag.
I don't know what the little jack-nag necessarily
means, but it's like, oh shit, we gotta leave
separately, okay?
It's a walk of shame
like oh no and i like how like they put oh brother richard oh brother yeah because like
oh no we're sleeping in the same bed because we're brothers right okay they were roommates
it's clearly not about two lovers right Right. It says brother right there.
Nope.
And I love that one of them's named Robin.
Love it.
This is going to be the theme of all of my stories today is Robin.
Speaking of which,
Twas once upon a time when Jenny Wren was young,
so daintily she danced and so prettily she sung.
Robin Redbreast lost his heart,
for he was a gallant bird. So he offed his hat to Jenny Wren, requesting to be heard.
Oh dearest Jenny Wren, if you will but be mine, you shall feed on cherry pie and drink new current
wine. I'll dress you like a goldfinch or any peacock gay. So dearest Jen, if you'll be mine,
let us appoint the day. Jenny blushed behind her fan and thus declared her mind. Since dearest Bob,
I love you so well. I'll take your offer kind. Cherry pie is very nice and so is current wine,
but I must wear my plain brown gown and never go too fine because
girl birds are not quite as pretty as the boy birds i just thought that was so cute oh that
is really cute that one is not one of the fucked up ones but it was so cute and it had robin red
breast in it i love it okay now everybody i am wearing just a chicken shirt, and I picked this particular one to go with it.
Abby, this one's for you.
This one is for you, Abby.
I can tell.
Keeping it together.
It's good.
Go on.
I'm ready.
Are you ready?
First four words.
Cock, cock, cock, cock. I've laid an egg.
How else are you going to start a nursery rhyme?
Exactly.
Exactly.
How else are you going to start a nursery rhyme?
Exactly.
If nobody has listened before this episode, this is why we have the Just Say Chicken.
Oh, goodness.
Okay. Cock, cock, cock, cock.
I'm laughing so hard.
You can see the V vein in my forehead.
My cheeks hurt.
I know.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay.
Let me try this again.
You know, I've been able to hold it together better and better on stories where they just use the word once and where, like, it's in a sentence, you know?
But someone just screaming for cock is so funny.
Especially at children's nursery right
cock cock cock cock i have laid an egg am i to gang the air foot yeah it says it like that
hen hen hen hen i've been up and down to every shop in town and cannot find a shoe to fit your
foot if i'd crown my heart out i think it's supposed to be like how they talk heart out
and like am i going to gang barefoot
and i also don't know where she is going to wear these shoes. Is she going to a gangbang in these shoes?
I am going.
Am I to gang barefoot?
I don't know, Miss Hen.
Ask your cock.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
I'm destroyed.
I'm dead.
You ready for this one? No. We got robins and pussies in this one. Okay. I'm destroyed. I'm dead. You ready for this one?
No.
We got robins and pussies in this one. Okay.
Okay.
Okay. Sorry. I keep covering my thing.
Little Robin Redbreast sat upon a tree. Up went the pussycat and down went he. Down came pussycat.
Away Robin ran. Says little Robin Redbreast,
catch me if you can. Little Robin
Redbreast jumped upon a spade.
Pussycat jumped after him and then
he was afraid. Little Robin chirped
and sang. And what did Pussy say?
Pussycat said,
mew, mew, mew. And Robin flew away.
I thought that one
was cute too. That is cute.
Oh yeah, I love the artwork in this book
there's a bunch of dead rats around that cat
no that is
um
pots
terracotta pots
ah I see
okay
okay yes I see it now
for a second I was like
oh my god
that Robin should not have gotten even close
oh are you ready for this okay do you guys remember that just scream cock again
we'll let you decide um you know that you know that song i think it's
You know that song, I think it's Ingrid Michaelson or somebody similar that had the coin operated toy.
Dressed in dolls.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
This one reminds me.
I was like, this is the poem that inspired that.
Oh, interesting.
Sitting on a shelf when I turn him on.
Yeah.
When I turn him on, then he makes me happy okay i had a little husband no bigger than my thumb i put him in a pint pot and there i bid
him drum hell yeah well not little they're not that well i have an array i'll stop there i put him in a pint pot and there i bid him drum i bought a little
handkerchief to wipe his little nose and a pair of little garters to tie his little hose
wow i love that one that one just has so much subtle sexual innuendo.
It's so great.
Because it's so much sexual innuendo if you're taking it as a metaphor.
If you're taking it literally, why are you wiping your husband's nose?
It's like you're cleaning your toy off. Do you mean a little child?
Right, yeah.
No, no, I get it as a metaphor.
I'm saying if you take it literally.
Yeah, but like if it's a person, yeah.
Right.
Right.
Okay. All right. One. Right. Right. Okay.
All right.
One last one.
This is just a what the fuck.
Okay.
There was a man in our town and he was wondrous wise.
He jumped into a bramble bush and scratched out both his eyes.
And when he saw his eyes were out with all his might and main,
he jumped into another bush and scratched them in again.
Yeah.
I don't love that.
That was very like,
what the fuck?
Scratch them in.
I don't.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know what that means.
How? What? No, I don't know. I don't think that at all works. I don't know what that means. How? What that?
No, I don't know.
I don't like this.
Well, kids, goodnight.
Yep, goodnight. Yeah, that's literally the last one.
That's literally the last
one in that book.
Sweet dreams.
Sweet dreams.
Nutso, begutso.
And that's all I got for you thank you Caroline
that was a delight
that was a rollercoaster
I felt lots of feelings
all over the place
I'm glad I could make you feel alive
I
Mother's Day continues to be
the most horrifying thing in children's literature
it has a exalted place for a good reason yeah absolutely i keep this on the adult bookshelf
for a good reason we do not want lola asking certain questions i mean i'm down to answer
questions but cop cop cop cop can be busting
out laughing i can't really explain why i'm laughing so hard no no the problem is other
if she does it in public other adults will totally understand and then she'll start wondering
why are all of the adults laughing so hard yeah exactly exactly so well ladies do we have Yeah. So hard. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So, so funny.
Well, ladies, do we have a little more stamina for me to do a random read?
I am down.
So fucking lootly.
I'm so excited.
All right, my lovelies.
You know the drill.
I'm going to flip through the pages of the complete first edition of the original folk
and fairy tales of The Brothers Grimm,
translated and edited by Jack Zipes.
Woo!
Y'all tell me when to stop.
Wait until it's at the very end.
Caroline, you do it.
And...
Stop.
I feel like all the weird ones
are near the back.
Agreed.
Like all the weird short ones.
Or the weird...
They're either in the front or in the back
the heavenly wedding oh how lovely none of us have ever read this story before so we all get
to make predictions sorry caroline what have you just watched oh i just watched love is blind and
so i have weddings on the brain oh indeed, we need to talk about this season offline.
Love it.
I'm sure we both have thoughts
and feelings. It was a wild one.
The Heavenly Wedding.
How many predictions do we get to make?
It's about a page, so I'm going to let
you each make two.
And I'll make two because I haven't read it either.
Okay. The Heavenly Wedding.
I'm going to
predict that
one
of the
wedding party members is
an animal.
That's fun.
Whether it be secret or not
like shapeshifty or not, but it's actually
an animal. Yeah.
My second prediction is that the wedding looks nice, but feels bad.
Ooh, looks nice, feels bad.
I'm into it.
That's a great prediction.
That's a good one.
I hope that's right, actually.
That's creepy.
Okay.
I predict that it is literally heavenly like there there is some sort of heaven
like an alternate alternate realm yeah it's literally heavily my second prediction is that it ends in no marriage oh okay that's a fair prediction actually i don't
nobody ends up actually married okay inspired by love is blind
none of those people should get married
ever ever with the possible exception of that one couple season one i was like there's like
two couples maybe three couples i can think of it i'm like yeah they're they're good i could
think of two um anyway okay my predictions um abby i forgot you get to make predictions
yeah i get to i get to make a couple. I haven't read it either.
Leaving me off the list.
This is a Jack and Rose from Titanic situation.
Ooh.
Wait, what does that mean?
So like class differences or?
No.
One of them dies.
One of them died when they were young.
And so they get married after they die.
Oh, that would be so sweet.
Okay.
I'm interested to see that.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then what's your second prediction?
There's a devil.
Ooh.
I thought about that for a second, too.
Love a devil.
I decided with animal instead.
Okay.
Are we ready?
Hit us.
Once there was a peasant boy.
Once.
W-H-O-O-N-C.
Once.
Now age.
Once there was a peasant boy who heard a priest talking in church whoever desires to enter the kingdom of heaven must always walk a straight path
only straight people straight it is so the boy set upon his way and went straight along
always straight ahead without turning over hill and valley he took this very literally oh wow
i think he might have been on the spectrum yes oh my god he's. This is absolutely an autistic boy. He's like, I will go straight.
I got it. I will go straight.
Straight and narrow. I will not even widen my legs. I will go narrow.
I know my home is to the left, but the priest told me I have to go straight. And so straight
is what I will go. Finally, his way led into a large city and then into the middle of a church where a holy service is being performed.
When he saw all the magnificent pomp, he thought that he had now reached heaven.
So he sat down and rejoiced with all his heart.
When the holy service is over and the sexton told him to leave, he answered, no, I'm never going to leave.
I'm happy now that I finally made it to heaven.
Oh, that's so cute.
That is cute.
The sexton went to the priest and told him that there was a boy who didn't want to leave the church because he thought he was in heaven.
And the priest essentially has the same reaction to us, which is.
Oh, if that's what he believes, the priest said, then let him stay.
Oh, this is like the most like cute story so far it's kind of adorable it becomes like a little altar boy hopefully he doesn't get diddled i mean yeah we let's not make him an altar boy. Yikes, Caroline.
God.
Yeah, yikes.
Well, I mean, you heard all those nursery rhymes.
Yes, the little fellow answered.
He was used to working.
Oh, wait, sorry.
I've skipped a whole sentence because Caroline's horrifying statement.
Yeah.
horrifying statement. Yeah.
Okay, so the priest goes to the
boy and asks him if he would like to
do some work.
Yeah, he would.
I didn't mean to laugh like a truck. I'm sorry.
Like a truck that's
having trouble starting.
Now it's recorded
forever. It is. Y'all can sound clip it. Make it's recorded forever it is y'all can make it my my ringtone
so yes the little fellow would like to have a job
a normal job a normal job safe a safe job safe job
we're holding it together.
He was used to working, but he never wanted to leave heaven again.
Caroline, you're horrible.
I'm sorry.
You've infected me.
You may, you may, you took this adorable story and you took it to a place that my brain can't
untake it to.
Just like a preacher's daughter would oh goodness i guess she can't help herself
okay so he remained in the church and when he observed how the people went up to the image of
the virgin mary with the blessed child jesus carved in wood and how they knelt down and prayed.
He thought that's our dear Lord.
And he said,
listen,
dear Lord,
you're much too thin.
The people are certainly letting you starve.
I'll bring you half my food every day.
Oh,
sweet boy.
I feel like this episode is called.
Oh,
oh,
sweet Robin.
This boy's name is now Robin.
From then on, he brought the image of mother and child half of his food every day,
and the image began to enjoy the meals.
That's really creepy.
Fucking creepy.
That's weird.
I like where this is going.
Yeah.
After a few weeks, people noticed that the mother and child in the image had put on weight and that they had become fat and strong, and they were quite surprised.
The priest couldn't understand it either, so he remained in the church and followed the little boy and saw how he shared his meal with the Virgin Mary and how she also accepted it.
Interesting.
with the Virgin Mary and how she also accepted it.
Interesting.
After some time, the boy became sick and couldn't leave his bed for a week.
But when he could get out of bed again, the first thing he did was to bring his food to the Blessed Virgin.
The priest followed him and heard him say, Dear God, please don't think wrong of me for
not having brought you anything for such a long time, but I was sick and couldn't get
up.
The image answered him by saying,
I've seen your good intentions and that's enough for me next Sunday.
I want you to come with me to the wedding.
Ooh,
the boy was glad about this.
I'm honestly kind of wondering,
like,
is this going to have a Hans Christian Anderson style?
Happy ending is a real creepy.
We're like,
they died.
Hooray.
Oh,
I was hoping that he got to grow up and sleep with Richard.
No.
You shush.
So the boy was glad about this and told the priest to ask him to go to the
image and inquire whether the priest could also come along.
Hmm.
No, replied the image.
You alone.
Oh, my.
No.
The priest.
Creepy.
I think Kelsey is going to get her point.
The priest wanted to repair the boy first by giving him Holy Communion.
The boy was happy to do this, and on the
next Sunday when he partook of the Holy Communion,
he fell down
dead, and thus
he went to the eternal
wedding. What?
Is that the end?
That's the end. The end.
Wait, read that last part again.
Next Sunday, when he partook of Holy Communion, he fell down dead and thus he went to the eternal wedding.
What?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Yay, I got a point.
I got two points.
You got two points you you got two points it was literally heavenly and nobody
ends up married what how what that's so creepy so he doesn't get to just gets to die oh this is like a little dead oh i'm like imagining like a
poor little sick leukemia kid back in the day it was no treatment he's just laying up at a
little monastery and like all he wants to do his little last wish is to give his little friends in
the picture their last meal because he couldn't do it for so long.
And then he gets communion and goes to heaven.
And there was no wedding.
How was the wedding?
What is the eternal wedding?
I don't know.
Is he marrying Jesus?
I don't know.
Like that's what like monks and Caroline, you can't go to heaven unless you're straight.
Oh, he did.
He did follow the straight path.
He followed it straight to his fucking death.
Yeah, I don't know.
What that means.
That was so creepy.
I hated that. Thanks That was so creepy. I hated that.
Thanks, Jack Zipes.
Maybe there's like a translation thing or just like it's old.
Maybe eternal wedding is just like the marriage of the soul to heaven or to Christianity.
Was the priest mad he couldn't come so he
murdered the little kid?
Did he poison the communion?
Oh my god, I hope not.
That's dark.
Even darker take.
I have so many questions about that.
Hmm.
I want you to come with me.
Was the devil in that story, Abby?
There's a parable.
There's a parable that Jesus gave to his disciples supposedly about the heavenly wedding banquet.
The parable explains that the saints who attend the wedding banquet will receive salvation and enter the eternal kingdom of heaven.
So that might be what it's like referring to.
Who's getting married in this parable?
We don't know.
I don't know.
Caroline, I'm giving you a point because the wedding looks nice, but feels bad.
Yeah.
That's the point for Caroline.
And Abby, I'm giving you a point because the devil is in that story for real.
I'm not sure exactly who it is, but I think it's the priest.
It's someone.
I think it's the priest.
I think so, too.
I think he spiked that communion and sent that little boy to heaven.
The first one that says you have to walk a straight line, and then the second one who
murdered that little kid.
There were two devils in that story
there were two devils inside this story are two devils wow wow moral of the story is that fairy
tales are fucked up fairy tales are fucked up i come from human fucked up experiences
yeah yeah i guess like the most generous interpretation of this story like is
caroline yours where it's like the kid the child already had like a terminal illness
yeah or something and like maybe couldn't keep the food maybe couldn't keep his food down
yeah and that's why he like gave half of it to the painting or whatever absolutely um yeah but
the painting or statue or whatever it was got, like, thicker.
Thicker, yeah.
And people noticed.
That's so creepy.
I know.
That is creepy.
Honestly, I'd be down to see, like, a short horror.
There are some things natural happening there.
I feel like an Easter egg of that would be really cool, you know?
Like, not necessarily a whole plot line but like a little
a little side plot and it was so it was so cute and like sweet and wholesome up to a point and
then like i think i think around the time that like this the the um the mother and child started
getting bigger like is around the time where i was like, oh. That story did not disappoint. I mean, I love it so much.
No, that was a great one.
Do we have any fixes for it?
I don't know.
Something supernatural is happening
and the priest
is feeding a monster.
Ooh.
Something like that.
I want something more overtly horror movie-esque like having like the painting
is sent like actually sentient and like a portal yeah was it was it a painting or a statue i totally
spaced on what i think i spaced on that too i thought it was a painting that's because as
soon as you started talking about it i was picturing that like weeping angel statue from Dr.
Who.
It sounds like a carving.
So it was like a wood carving of the Virgin Mary and baby Jesus.
Interesting.
Yeah.
And the fact that it's getting,
that makes it,
it doesn't make it like more devilly.
It's like a demon possessed object
you know yeah yeah and the priest just helped helping feed it under a guise yeah little kids
oh my god that was fun creepy that's kind of a fun one like i don't know yeah i don't know i definitely wouldn't
call it the heavenly wedding no no it's one of those this is definitely one of those grimm's
fairy tales where it's like the the we got we got a little we forgot that they often
start with something that will never be actually mentioned more than once yeah or like it ends up there but
you didn't think it was going that direction yep yeah um if any of our listeners have like more
thoughts about like the heavenly wedding or like know more about what that is like i'm sincerely
very curious like i don't yeah i don't know what that i know i tried to look it up but i just got
like a bunch of wedding websites yeah that's pretty much what i that's pretty much what i saw too well good job
everyone uh i feel like we have i feel like caroline's um initial story was the most wholesome
thing that we heard uh about to be it was going to be eclipsed by the heavenly wedding and then
the heavenly wedding took an incredibly dark turn it as dark as mother goose yeah just as dark as mother goose because and also like
unintentionally dark i think that's supposed to be a happy ending yeah but as with all those
hans christian anderson stories where like the protagonist has to die in order to move on like it's just i don't like it but we like you
thank you caroline for coming on with us today we love you so much this is so much fun uh can
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And so in Caroline's rewrite of red robin hood she her rewrite of her rewrite of red robin hood
she will include elements of the robin hood story as is suggested by that title
and the werewolf is a robber yes the werewolf is a robber and the grandma is a witch.
And that horrible story, the heavenly wedding was renamed something different?
Just the heavenly?
Ooh.
Right?
Or maybe like the weird Jesus, weird virgin mary statue yeah and it was actually made
into a horror movie where the priest was feeding the statue little kids little little wayward kids
oh my god i'd watch that movie that's it that's it oh okay i didn't watch that movie i would sit
next to i would sit next to kelsey and car Caroline on the couch and keep my head buried in their shoulders
while we laugh our asses off.
And, well, they didn't
all live, but some of them lived.
Happily ever
after.
The end.