Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 108: My Fifteen Minutes with Judy Reyes

Episode Date: April 30, 2020

JD and Turk save a cameraman's life in this week's episode. But, Turk doesn't like when he's made to be poster minority for the hospital. In real life Donald and Zach are joined by Carla, aka Judy Reyes, Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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episode, Zach. You have no idea. This is a big episode. This is a very good episode, by the way. cow i got so many things to say i got so many things to say i'm so excited about this episode zach yeah you have no idea this is a big episode this is a very good episode by the way judy came for a good one yeah not only is it a big episode but this is listen man i feel like i didn't know what i had when i had it you know what i mean carla and turk carla and turk oh my gosh oh my gosh you want to talk about a good relationship on television, and you want to talk about a relationship, especially at the time that we were filming it. I really needed a relationship like that.

Granted, I found the woman of my dreams. She lives in the same house as me. She's downstairs right now watching our children. But when I think of Turk and Carla, our children. But when I think of Turk and Carla, I think of Carla and you too, Judy, as like an ex of mine, even though it was just work, even though we were working together. It's like, I have so many fond memories and I ruined it. And I spoiled it by the show going off the air. And then we were no longer together. And I don't see her anymore.

So when you see Judy now, do you have the feeling of like... I get the vapors. As Bismarck said, I caught the vapors. Oh my God. When I'm watching Scrubs now, I'm like, oh my gosh, she's so fine. What was I thinking? What did I do? How did I let that go? You know, that's okay.

Carla always knew it. What do I have to do to get this guy to see what he has? I do. How did I let that go? You know, that's okay. Carla always knew it. Yeah. What do I have to do to get this guy to see what he has? Oh, he always, he always, and she always said it,

right? Carla always says like, if only, when is he going to love me the way he loves JD? Here's some stories about a show we made about a bunch of docs and nurses. And a janitor who loved to hate. I said he's got stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald.

So listen, for all of you guys who are listening right now, why don't you properly introduce your TV show wife. Is stupendous the right word? Yeah, stupendous. Stupendous. Fantastic. The fantastic, the legend that is Judy Reyes on Fake Doctors and Real Friends today. We're so excited about it. Give it up.

What an incredible introduction. This is where we insert thunderous applause, Judy. I'm at a loss of words. You have no idea how excited I am that you are here. I'm excited for you guys. I'm excited for the show. You guys got bumped up to two shows a week. I can't even catch up. Well, we've been having fun. We never thought anyone would really listen. We thought it would be maybe our parents. Donald's mom doesn't even listen. My mom's never, I don't think she's ever listened to,

you know how I know she hasn't listened? You know how I know she hasn't listened? This is how I know she hasn't listened. Because I'll be like, Mom,

and I've already said on the podcast, I don't think my mom ever listens to the show, right? I was like, Mom, have you listened to the podcast? She's like,

yeah, I listen to it all the time. And the way I know that she hasn't, she hasn't been like, she hasn't called me and been like, I listen to your podcast.

She has no idea. Yeah, isn't that the story of the show you know it was like congratulations but nobody's watched the show until like 20 years later where now it's like a legend right television folklore where everybody's like oh my god you don't understand i grew up on your show and it's like wow okay right when you hear that it's like well how come y'all didn't show up in the ratings then, if that's the case? Well, they did in the beginning. I was just looking back. This is back in 2000 when there was no streaming competition

and people actually did watch the show. I mean, there were a lot of people watching the show in the beginning, especially, you know, we always joked that we barely survived, that we were always moving around time slots and everything. But this was still like at a time when, Joelle, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think like 11

million people or something were watching these episodes in the season. Correct! Yeah, when we followed Frasier, we were at 11 or 10 million. But when the season two or three, when we started following Friends, at one point we had like 27 million people watching our show.

I don't know, but it's just so funny. You never get, no one ever gets numbers like that anymore. But back in 2001, you could have 11 million people watching our show. I don't know, but it's just so funny. You never get, no one ever gets numbers like that anymore. But back in 2001, you could have 11 million people watch your TV show. Well, because there were only three television networks, right? There was ABC, NBC, CBS, and like, and Fox, and then Showtime and HBO. So there were only a certain number of shows that you could watch. And now, you know, like we were saying before, people are actually coming to us and texting us and through social media, letting us know that we, particularly in these times that our show literally changed their lives and influenced

and affected the choices that they made for a living. And that's really, really moving. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, you're absolutely right. It feels so warm and fuzzy inside when you read your comments and you post a picture of your kids and stuff like that, and they're like, that don't look like Carla. Yeah, Donald always gets harassed. I'm always like, Donald gets harassed. That don't look like Carla had them kids.

That's why I'm always like, wow that the show hits so hard and so many people that when I post pictures of my family or I post pictures you know of us at a holiday you know during holiday the first thing that comes up that don't look like Carla we're turkey we're turkey when I was working when I started working in out of state, which is right after Scrubs, where all shows were being shot, like in Vancouver or Atlanta or New Orleans. So, Judy, I was going to say, Donald, if you don't mind. Judy, we've been asking everyone that comes on the show, all the cast members, their audition story, because I think listeners are, I imagine, interested in that. I hope they're interested in that. But maybe, I don't really know yours. I know Donald and Sarah's. So I'd love to hear your story about how the script initially

came to you and what your audition process was like. In New York, you know, I was working, I had done, gosh, I don't know. I'd done like, this was, must've been like my seventh pilot audition. I'd done all about six pilots before this that never went, that never got picked up. So by the time I got to this one, I was just like, you know, ready for it not to go as well, but it was such a good pilot. And Carla had these two great monologues in the pilot, one where I go off, right? And one where I go off on Dr. Cox. And I was, you know, I was part of a theater company, and I was just so prepared to just nail it and walk out and get out. And I got, you know, you get a free flight to LA. You get to stay in a fancy hotel. But the most important thing was to

just like work on it really hard and go hard and get out of the room feeling good. Wait, you weren't living in Los Angeles at the time? No, no. I was in New York. I was living in New York. Was your first audition at 30 Rock or something for Stephen O'Neill? Yeah, my first audition was at 30 Rock, and I did really well. And all I just kept getting was this feedback from my manager.

Gene Fox, your manager manager yes yes um um not at this not during this but you not at this time but yes but we did have the same manager back in the day yeah when we were younger right because she mostly represented kids and I always played really young and earlier in my career but I remember being really excited to get this flight to LA and staying in a fancy hotel and all this stuff. And, uh, and, uh, I remember somebody giving me a note to tell is like, before you start your, your scene, just take a breath and look at everybody in the room and then start. That's good advice.

And I really did. And I fell and they weren't like, think, uh, three other women did you know them anyway i didn't know anybody uh i just remember who was the casting director for that i knew the casting director because i auditioned him all the time and and i didn't even know any of the actresses which was strange because all latina actresses know each other and i think i was the only one from la who was flown in and i felt like i had a really good chance but i didn't attach myself to anything um what scenes did you do do you remember what scenes you did from the pilot

all the scenes that Carla had which was like the one where I go he hits on me right and the one to Dr. Cox right I don't remember any of this stuff don't worry don't worry darling I don't remember anything either I watched this episode that we're talking about twice. Yes. Same here. Cause I remember it. I, what I remember it is like in the first season,

I had this one big, big episode with you where, where, where we go to see that to the photography exhibit. That's called my nickname. And I was sure that that's the one we were going to talk about today. Like, wait a minute.

We're not doing my nickname. No, no, we, we, we, we, we,

I, one, one, one time, one day, Judy, we'll get more organized and like book people for the the times they have their big episode but i think you have a really nice arc in this episode

no i do and that's why i want you i was like this is really great i'm excited to talk about we just wanted to have you on but i but i remember um taking that moment and looking at all these people it's like in my head i was like fuck there's a lot of people in here and i looked at all of them i was like no pressure right and they just fell out laughing and bill the loudest and i felt really relaxed and i just they laughed at every single thing i did and i was like i'm fine and uh i walked to the elevator and before i got to the elevator the casting and those oh i i wanted to tell you something hold on a second before they call the other girl in i was like you're good i was like oh oh shit like when you like as you leave do you remember if it was brett or debbie one of those debbie

yeah and she took you aside she took me aside at the elevator i was like amazing you're really good and i was like oh i wasn't sure what that meant but i was like and by the time i got to the airport i was like you got it oh wow that's. That's so awesome. Oh my God. So on your way back, how much did you drink? In celebration. I was like, they were like, do you want a champagne or orange juice? Or I was like, can I have them both in one glass? She was like a mimosa. I was like, yeah, that's it. Give me one of those.

And I was like, you want it all? I was like, a mimosa? I was like, yeah, that's it. Give me one of those. And I was like, you want another one? I was like, yeah, I want another one. Oh, man. That's amazing. And then so you had to go back to, well, it was just the pilot. So I guess you weren't planning on moving. You just kind of came out for the pilot then? Came out for the pilot.

And then, you know, by the time we got picked up, it was a couple months later. Okay, so do you remember upfront at all? Didn't I get hammered at all? Yeah, that's what I'm asking didn't get hammered yeah that's what i'm asking we all did but that's what i'm asking i remember i remember being um on a swing donald told this story where you were on but it was more than a swing do you guys it was like a trapeze type thing for some reason this bar we were in had a trapeze in it, which is really not safe. I want to swing and my ex-husband had to take me home. Yes. I remember who was the executive tall guy and he had a snot on his nose. And I was like, you got a booger.

And you were like, and Bill was so impressed. It was like, you're the only person I know who would tell like the head of a network that he has booger on his nose. I was like, but wouldn't you, wouldn't you want to know that you have booger on your nose? I love that on one side of that party, Donald's giving Jeff Zucker a noogie on the other side of the party.

You're telling another executive, he has a booger on his nose. And Bill had told us all like, guys, do not get too drunk at this party. It's going to be important executives here. We got wasted. Sarah was wasted.

Wasted. Do you remember her famous phrase, Judy, at that party? She walked up to Donald Trump. You guys never had a cosmopolitan? It was so good. I was like, I want to try one. She was walking sideways. I just remember.

She was like on a diagonal. I told her, I was like, I like martinis. You know what my friend Richie Pretroselli says about martinis? Martinis are like tits. One's not enough. Three's too many. Want that on a t-shirt. Right?

What was your first impression of meeting Donald like? Because you knew he was going to be your love interest. And then did you meet him at the table read thing that we did at Bill's house? Did I go to the table read? Maybe because you flew in. I flew in, so I didn't go. So where did you meet Donald? On set.

I met him on set. I told you this story, dude. I want to hear it from Judy. We had the make-out scene. We had the make-out scene. And you had smoked cigarettes right before it. Donald's already complained that you were smoking. Yes, and of course.

But since then, we've smoked so many cigarettes together. Oh my gosh. But what I do remember is that we had that makeout scene and i was completely i felt donald is donald you what you see is what you get he's the sweetest kindest relaxed but very professional guy right and i felt very comfortable with donald and we had this makeout scene and i don't think that i've ever had a kissing scene like that before where, you know, we're just like making out and I stuck my tongue in his mouth. Yeah,

dude. And then he went, and then he went and bragged to everybody. You did that a lot. You, and then Donald started with Judy. Didn't Donald start walking around bragging to everyone? Like I got tongue.

But the first time I did it, the first time. Yeah. Right away. Right away. But he told like the whole fucking time. And then he ruined it for nine years. For the whole time.

The rest of it. No, but I should have. Because I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed. This motherfucker goes, Yo, you stuck your tongue in my mouth. She stuck her tongue in my mouth. I wasn't supposed to do that. I didn't know.

So Donald, you in one moment, you have this beautiful woman. She's giving you a first on-screen kiss. The chance of a life. And then you blab about it. And then you never got tongue again, did you? Well, no, she did it a couple of times. Hold on now. No, I didn't.

Yeah, you did. Liar. You're a liar. I could show you the episode. Because I remember one episode we're making out. And the girl I was dating at the time was like, well, this is awkward. And it was like the scene where we're supposed to be making out. It's supposed to be a wet, sloppery kiss and stuff like that. And JD even says something about that, about our making out.

Because it's scripted. Right. But you know what? Wasn't that girlfriend? Guys mature slower than girls do. It's just that simple. Women mature faster. I just remember thinking like,

I would never rat it out now. I just remember thinking like, Donald, that's not going to end well, Donald. No, it didn't end well immediately. No, but didn't end well immediately. No, but I was really embarrassed about it because it was just instinctual. I was like, okay. So before Donald ruined it, it was a good kiss, I imagine.

It was a good kiss. I'm a great kisser. Oh, shit, Donald. You fucked up. I did fuck up. I fucked up. This many years later, you fucked up. I did fuck up. I fucked up. This many years later, you're still pissed about it. Listen, like I said, I look back at it now like, what was I thinking, dude?

What a dummy. Listen, the whole crew was like, what are you thinking? Yeah, I know. What a moron. It's like that thing in Scrubs where they get the opera singer who goes, Mr. Mr. Yeah.

where they get the opera singer who goes, Mr. Yeah. Or that Kevin Sorbo story. Have you heard that? No. Which one is that one? You know how they put in parentheses the direction that you're supposed to do,

and then underneath it usually is the line? Yeah, the parenthetical. Right. And in that it said disappointed, that was like the last thing underneath the line that he has so like the line was something like this isn't my world this isn't my place and then in that thing it says it says disappointed so he's supposed to say all of this disappointed and he is trying to figure out a way to muster up the disappointment

now this is all folklore this is all this this might not be true and he's trying to figure out a way to muster up the disappointment. Now, this is all folklore. This might not be true. And he's trying to figure out a way to muster it up. And he goes, disappointed! I love those Hollywood stories where you hear something and some actor said, you have no idea if it's true or not, but they're funny to hear. I know one with Christina Ricci, apparently. She was, I have no, again, I have no idea if this is true,

but I heard this story that she was getting all this direction. The director was going into all this elaborate stuff, and she looked at him and said, look, more happy or more sad? The end of the day, right? Which, when you think about it, is pretty great. Let's just break it all down. Do you want it more happy or do you want it more sad? That's very Wednesday of her.

Yeah. I don't want to hear your elaborate, your direction's so confusing. Do you want me happier or sadder? But at the end of the day, that's like very Carla and Turk, isn't it? It's like, what are you doing? You just ruined it for the rest of our relationship. Well, you were such a, you two had such a great relationship on the show. And I think so many people were genuinely invested in you two, which is just such a testament to how, how good your chemistry was. And of course, how good both of your performances were. definite relationship goals for me like if my relationship is like that would you know it's so much so that it kind of is like that when you really when you really think about it you know my wife is the boss of this you know what i mean carla was the boss you know what i mean all the way up into how she made the guy ask her out you know what what I mean? She got him to the point where he was, she offered sex to him and he declined.

You know what I mean? He declined because he was afraid to ruin the relationship because he saw where it was going. You know what I mean? And that's just so. Particularly in this episode where Carla fucks up so bad and she goes to Turk where he's exemplary more than where Carla talks a lot. And she, she, she's just strong, but she's, she falls apart and she goes to him and she sees what he does. You know, he walks the walk and she just does what he does at the end of the day,

you know, and she sees, she sees how strong Turk is as well. And she, she goes by his example. Judy, do you think that you, I mean, I'm sure this has come up for you. I hear it all the time that you inspired a lot of people to become nurses, which must be a pretty incredible thing because I just, I,

when I watched the show, especially now back and having some experience in hospitals with, with sick family members, I'm so aware of the power of the nurses and how the nurses are running the whole show. And to me, when I rewatched this, Carla was just the exemplar of the most amazing nurse there ever was. And I just wonder what your experience of people, men and women coming up to you and saying you may have inspired them to go into it. I think that's true. I don't know that the case, I think that people who may have been considering a career in medicine,

they got that extra push from seeing a character like Carla and a Loma and a show like scrubs. Do you know what I mean? And the strength of someone like that and, and the true power of those, of those people in that profession. Do you know what I mean? Where people find,

you know, the glory in, in, in the doctors, for example, that the, they don't know that you cannot have those doctors without the nurses. I remember, um, having that conversation with Bill one time where he wanted to explore the idea of Carla wanting to pursue a career as a doctor. And I was like, uh, no, I, I, I wasn't interested in that because it's like, I think Carla loves being a nurse and I love, you know, that's where her strength and her power and her vanity and her ego live.

And I think that she's really okay with that. Do you know what I mean? And, and the dynamics of the relationships with every, with her and everyone in the hospital are strongest there. You know what I mean? And that there's nothing wrong with that. And her viewing audience, and for me as a Latina, all these Latinas find strength. There's a lot of huge force with people and women, and women of color in particular,

and particularly at that time. I wanted to segue. That's a great segue into this episode, actually. It is, and also, I just want to point out, Joelle,

because she's such a good producer, sent me this statement, sent us this. The Annenberg Inclusion Initiative at the University of Southern California released a study in 2019 that said, Latino actors represented

only 3% of lead or co-lead roles in top-performing movies during the last 12 years. This is movies, not TV, but it's the same thing. What impression do you think Carla left on your community? Which I thought was a really smart question that I have to give Joelle credit for. I think it left a huge impression.

I get it, again, I get it all the time. And I think people built on it. A lot of roles were designed on Carla as a result you know a lot of strong sassy roles as a result of that um but not I mean you're you weren't a caricature in any sense not in any sense yeah I thought it was a testament to the writing absolutely obviously and it's and I think it's been challenging to find characters and roles that have been as strong and as memorable since. You know, I know it's hard for me to find roles that have been as strong and as memorable since. And for me to find, just like you were talking in the podcast that I was listening with you guys and Bill, people want like a phase-on type of character.

Right. with you guys and Bill. People want like a phase-on type of character, you know, built on, because that's the power and the force of a very well-written, very well-acted show where you're trying to just build on the kind of actor that you are, but move past that is a real challenge because it's hard to find well-written roles.

But yeah, and the discussions and the arguments and the debates that you have with the writers to keep it real and keep it honest keep it flawed keep it complicated um which is all that bill and the writers responded to really honestly you know and bill responded to what i said yeah let's keep her a nurse because you know uh that's where the challenges in a hospital environment live and he was really respectful of your input i think and and all right um we're gonna go to commercial because that's what we're supposed to do donald i thought we were gonna go into the episode we're going to but i'm seeing a chat from from these producers this is like the longest do you ever look at the

chat thing we're supposed to be talking about the show though i know bro but listen judy is entertaining as hell and we're're going to go into it. I'm not saying it's her fault. Why are you yelling at all of us? It feels like you're mad. No one's yelling. No one's yelling. I'm just saying the format's all fucked up.

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He's drinking iced tea. No, Judy, Donald, I'm a little worried because we're only like eight episodes in and Donald has taken to day drinking. Only on shoot days. Only on shoot days. Only on shoot days. I have a feeling by the time we get to like episode 20, he's going to be like hammered like, and another thing. He's going to be screaming by episode eight. Well. They'll be like, what?

And then. His shirt will be off. His shirt will be off. Do you remember that time, Judy? We were all at a bar. Oh, no. I won't tell the whole story. I won't tell the whole story. be off his shirt will be off do you remember that time judy we all we were all at a bar like oh no i won't tell the whole story i won't tell the whole story but all i know is that donald got drunk enough so that his shirt was off in the bar and i just it was an ice bar too it was an ice bar

so it's it's there's a room where you go in and it's nothing but ice and i went in that room shirtless and drank no but you were walking around the park i mean this was just hilarious now i think about it it. It was our whole cast and crew and we were all partying. I don't know if it was a rap thing or whatever, but all of a sudden I look over and Donald was drunk enough so that he was like having animated discussions

without his shirt on in the bar. The fact that you remember that is impressive to me. Oh, I remember because I did some naughty, I did some stupid things, and my then-girlfriend, now-wife, showed up to surprise me, and I was acting a fool at the bar.

Oh, that was so good. Does she have evidence? Oh, yeah. It's such a good story, but I don't know if we're allowed to tell that story. I don't know if... Can you ask Casey if we can have permission? Maybe we'll tell on a later episode.

Yeah, I'll ask her. Yeah, but in the meantime, just know that Donald got in trouble and also had his shirt off oh my gosh you remember the time donald got in trouble that's like every that's a lot that happened a lot that's what i'm saying every every episode he got in trouble and took off oh my god said part of clothing yeah and when donald would yeah he'd take his clothes off and then if he got to the next level drunk, he'd leave angrily, and like sometimes he'd leave angrily with no shirt on. Yeah, right. Yo, dude,

that, oh my god! That's just Donald the nudist. You need a show. Right. He once walked home so mad, we won't go into this story either. No, we won't go into this one either. But all I'm gonna say is that he walked, we live, we both lived at the time in the Hollywood Hills, and he once walked home, walked, no shirt on.

From La Brea and Melrose. Up into the Hollywood Hills. There's no sidewalks. People don't walk. Oh, I know. I live in the hills. This is where Donald walked, and he was power walking, like arms flying, mad naked.

Well, I wasn't naked, but I was mad. You're really mad. That's a long walk. Yeah, it's're really mad. That's a long walk. Yeah, it's a long story. It's a long, long story. Some of these stories we have to censor. Should we get into the episode? Sure.

We should totally get into the episode. Let's do it. I just wanted to say the first thing that I noticed is that Donald's CPR at 48 seconds would not bring anyone back to life. But I just want to say something. It was a real human being. I'm not allowed to touch on a person's chest like that i know i want to tell the audience that it's a tricky thing to give fake cpr because if you do cpr for real you can kill someone so when you watch

horrible tv and movie cpr it sometimes looks like this but i just wanted to say that i thought you did a particularly bad job thank you Thank you very much. Thank you. Oh, but wasn't the, wasn't the real JD there at the time on set to approve the favor? I'm sure. But if you look at, if you look at fake CBR all throughout medical TV shows, there's different techniques there,

but, and, and you know, some people just like completely bend their elbows. So none of the pressure goes down on the person's sternum. I don't know what Donald's doing here, but maybe JD had an emergency. Maybe he was hungover from that power walk. Yeah.

I don't know why this is a highlight of this podcast today. I'm just saying, buddy, I'm just saying next time you do fake CPR on one of your projects, you know, you can do better. I believe in you. Okay. Okay. Let's talk about the Holy Inferiority Complex, Batman. This is one of some people's favorite fantasies.

You know what I wrote down when I saw that? What? 111. Batman, Robin, Starsky, and Hutch. Han and Chewie, Han and Luke, Turk and JD. Oh, you're putting us up there? I'm saying we are ultimate, ultimate dynamic duo. I want to say that there are certain things that come up all the time in Scrubs fan favorite things.

They send us gifts or I see them on the interwebs. And this episode has a few of them, actually. But this Batman, holy inferiority complex is one of them, I think. It's great because then you bump into, at least you're not Alfred, and then you're the Alfred kick. Damn you. Damn you. Damn you.

Damn you. That was my best Adam West impersonation ever too I don't think I could ever Like you know people are like do Neil Diamond I think my Adam West Impersonation was better than my Neil Diamond It could be worse Robin Your mask is so funny

I just have it frozen on 117 And I know that we weren't allowed to do The exact costume again because it's parody It has to have a little twist on it but your mask is so funny it's like mardi gras it's like a mardi gras mask i don't know what it was it was it's like a mardi gras those were the days too whenever we had to do like uh the the scrubs fantasies or whatever where we was like oh are they doing the fantasy and everybody would run down from their dressing rooms and come see everybody dress up and do the the costumes and the fantasies and i'd be like i said when do i get you actually get one judy one thing i i get one here one thing i noticed judy at 323 you are you i mean correct me if i'm wrong you weren't often in the fantasies

but this was but this is one because because i don't know why we can talk about that, but I, this was one of the early times where you were in there doing that throwing stars thing. And I'll tell you, cause I was also listening to, uh, when I was listening to the,

the, the bill podcast, I remember, you know, how, you know, how bill always warned us not to go and talk to him about including now or get a bed.

Cause you would get phase on. And I would be terrified of talking to him about shit like that. It because you would get phase on terrified of talking to him about shit like that. It would be like, you know, because he would always let me know this and then your character would be carrying the gravitas of the show. And I was like, but I'm, I'm funny, God damn it. I'd be worried about like, how do I talk to this man about the fact that I'm funny and I want like a fantasy and, you know, or I want more jokes and shit,

you know? And those would be like, and I would literally sometimes be in my dressing room, like trying not to cry because I'm about to confront Bill about wanting a more, another joke or wanting this or wanting that because I wouldn't want to be phased on or some shit. So what would you do?

Would you give yourself a bit of a pep talk? Oh, my God, yeah. And I would, like, cry in my room before. You know, I'd be pulling, like, an Elliot in my room. Yeah, I'd freak out, you know? And was he receptive? He was receptive. He was receptive.

I think, I mean, I have no idea what his reasoning was, but it sounds like, just from hearing you recount it, that Carla was always the base of the reality and the gravitas and the drama. So he didn't want her going into being too silly. But it's funny. In this episode, you do have some funny-ass shit, I think. Totally. I like the ninja stuff. That was funny. That it's funny. In this episode, you do have some funny ass shit, I think. Totally.

I like the ninja stuff. That was funny. That was very funny. Walking in with your girlfriend, laughing and everything, and then getting caught out there. Getting busted. Which I loved.

Yeah. I was going to say, I didn't recall, to be honest, I don't recall a lot of, I say this every podcast. I don't recall a lot of scrubs say this every podcast. I don't recall a lot of scrubs when watching it. But I didn't recall that you and Elliot had such a rocky start.

I always thought that you guys had a great relationship. But do you remember when it switched to where you guys became, was it early on? Because even in this episode, you're totally dissing her. You know, you're like, you know, and it's, and it seems like it's always that way.

She puts her foot in her mouth and you're like, I got to get the hell away from this person. Uh, Carla's like, I got to get the hell away. Well, in the beginning, Sarah was pretty disrespectful to,

to Carla, you know, like she, um, you know, so I think I would imagine, I mean, obviously I want to know your answer,

but that my, my impression was that she was still feeling resentful towards Elliot, right? I think so. And I think it's more like she doesn't get it and she never will. You know what I mean? And I think it's JD's impulse always to just like smooth things over and fix things and help other people understand that she's really not just awkward. She's always screwing things up, just like, you know, trying to help people understand or explain people to other people. You know what I mean? And I've just I got no time for this. Do you recall when it switched over to Carla being that person for Elliot?

You know what I mean? Where Carla was making excuses for, oh, this is just the way she is. Did it ever switch over to that or was Carla always? I don't. I mean, I really don't. I know that it happened in this episode. I don't know. Well, in this episode, even after you're like, I'm sorry I did that, we all know the truth.

Right. No, nobody want to hang out with Elliot. Exactly. Especially when she's rocking a neckerchief did you see that neckerchief and the khaki i thought that was really funny that moment it's around 5 26 or so when you guys are walking and you're going out outfits and she's got her khakis and her her heroby-Doo. What's the character in Scooby-Doo that has the neckerchief? It was so random. Fred. Yeah, that was her going out outfit.

So sanitary. And then she puts her foot in her mouth with your friend. Yes. Because she has a son, right? Yeah, she has a son who's really young. And she's like, wow, way to rob the cradle. I'm going to be honest with you i had a lot of issues with this episode uh as far as stereotypes go and i know this is the episode with stereo about stereotypes and everything like that right there's just so many things that you know one of the lines turk says in the show is like

you know all my whole life people always assume that i'm a good athlete, that I, uh, that I, that I, uh, uh, was it? I'm a good athlete. I grew up poor and, uh, I love Sanford and son. Those things are kind of true about me. At the end of the day, I'm a pretty decent athlete. I didn't grow up with a lot of money. And I truly love Sanford and Son. But it's the obvious exploitation of those things and trying to make money off of that shit. Absolutely. Absolutely. There's a lot of deep things that we talk about in this episode.

You know, you touched on it earlier. And that's why I was saying it was such a great segue into this episode. You know, people of color don't go to hospitals or don't go to the doctor, you know what I mean? And it's because they don't, my opinion is because they don't see themselves when they go. They see a bunch of other colors when they go, and that can be very scary, you know what I mean? We touch on it in this episode, but I feel like, yeah, I understand why Turk's upset because, you know, his face is plastered and he's being exploited to try and bring a hip new crowd into the hospital and everything like that. But there's something deeper in that.

One, I didn't know that Sacred Heart was in the inner city. I had no idea that it was an inner city hospital, one. You didn't? This whole time? This whole time. There's so, listen, when you say- Because there's hardly any people of color in the hospital. Right, in the hospital.

You know what I mean? And, you know, at the end of the day, this was something that really struck home with me. You know, we talk about COVID now and how, you know, people of color are a very high percentage of people that are dying because we have so many underlying conditions and stuff like that.

But a lot of that has to do with being afraid to go to the doctor or to the hospital because when you go there, they're either going to give you bad news or you're going to die. You know what I mean? And I feel like it's so prevalent in this episode.

You know what I mean? You know, we talk about it in this episode in a small way, but that's what I took away from this. My takeaway from this was, you know, it's more than just Turk being exploited. It has everything to do with, you know, how can we make health care better for people of color? can we make healthcare better for people of color? But my first thing was, wow, I wish. We truthfully need to figure out this healthcare system when it comes to the stigmatism that people of color have when they go to a hospital.

When I finished the episode, I was like, okay, the lesson is nobody wants to be taken advantage of and stand up for yourself and everything like that. I was like, but there's something deeper in that. Also, where the hell did this kid and i get this fucking imaginary football from i just started laughing at that too to toss to each other at the end of the show i was laughing at that too i was like so wait a second you were stitching him up in an or and then all of a sudden there's a football was there was it on the shelf like how did this

how did this happen by the way and that story and that story is pretty glossed over too. It's like, you got knifed? You got stabbed? Yeah, you got stabbed in the arm? Yeah, let's toss a ball. Let's play football now. You know what I mean? And that's what I was sitting there, I was like, this is some stereotypical bullshit. Yeah, he got

knifed in the arm, and you were then making some joke like, oh, I got this from, what was your joke? Like, oh, my injury is from this. A pencil or some shit like that. Yeah. Anyway, here, Jim, here's a ball. Yeah, let's play catch. Let's have a catch in the OR.

That wrestling fantasy was pretty funny, I think. I love that. I'm going to probe you. I'm going to probe you. Because I'm the intern. I was so excited to do that. I liked pro wrestling when I was a kid. JD Macho Man Savage.

I accidentally freeze-framed at 706, and I think it might be the most unattractive shot of me in Scrubs history. It was like this wide-angle lens, and I'm all up close to it with my giant nose. And your hair like Shonuf. You had hair like Shonuf from The Last Dragon too. By the way, I liked my hair like that. I was really enjoying it.

I mean, the wig extension, whatever it is, I think that they did a good job because I wish I could rock hair like that. My hair would never do that. It wouldn't? No, it wouldn't be so glorious. Neither would mine. No, you have beautiful curly hair.

My hair wouldn't be like all straight and shit. Judy, talk about that bar scene at 804. Do you remember shooting that? And it's the, when you show up and Sarah's drinking alone, do you remember shooting that? And that woman that you worked with, I don't, I'm sorry, I don't know her name. I mean, you probably don't remember her name either,

but I thought she did a good job. No, she was super sweet. And I do remember like the whole idea of doing that scene i i i just loved the idea of fucking up on someone so badly you know and just being so uh so uncomfortable around someone uh that you would uh hide under a table you know yeah hide under a table do you know what i mean Hide under a table. Do you know what I mean? And having to like, try to find ways to just completely avoid them because you screwed up so badly.

And how, uh, I'm telling, uh, Turk, I, you're such a guy and you don't fucking understand what's going on. And then JD comes in.

Uh, I'm so sorry what I did. And they apologized to each other. Like nothing happened. Do you think that that's a good, what do you think the commentary is there that like men can communicate with each other? I mean,

what I laughed at that, but then I was thinking like, well, what is, what is the social commentary there? Just that, just that Turk and JD have such a close relationship and they know how to communicate.

I think so. I think they already apologized to each other, but they want to say, listen, I hope you got me. I'm really sorry for what happened. I didn't mean it so i know that you didn't mean it as cool you know what i mean just right after and i think she realizes like shit i really just have to go confront her you know where she's trying to avoid it i think you know guy but this these these

guys they're so they're such good friends yeah that they're going to they're not going to do that to their friendship you know and he's and and turk is looking off and then you know we're getting there she's looking at him like you know go fuck yourself and then we did that there's some sound effect on our fist bump that's like this angelic noise that's really funny hit me yeah you know their friendship isn't healed healed by no means of friendship. And Aloma. And I love that whole, and the whole nurse thing with, like, Aloma being in the, JD seeking his fucking evaluation so desperately from Cox.

Yeah. I think fits into that story so well. He's asking from Aloma, and Dr. Cox is there. He's like, can't you see I'm watching my story? Yeah. I remember that whole my stories thing being so hilarious during that episode. I do remember. And everybody's like quoting it all over the place.

A Loma was so funny. You could just give her anything and she would be fine with it. She's just like one line and she's just magical. Yeah. She comes in. What Carla didn't give, Elliot Laverne gave her. Right. It was what Loma Wright played.

So beautiful. She goes, why so sad, Marshmallow? And then she gives her a little hot chocolate, a little marshmallow. Did Marshmallow stick? It did. I think it did. Yeah. Do you think Carla and Nurse Roberts were friends outside of work?

Yes. Yeah, absolutely. A hundred percent. Yeah. That story never got told. I want to see the Nurse Roberts-Carla Vegas trip. Did Aloma ever go with us to Vegas? Did she go with us to Vegas for the wrap party?

I don't think so. I think Aloma was religious and she wasn't going to- She was like, I'm staying away from that. Jesus will not be there. I know that. I think she would have gone. Right. You know, we asked her to.

She would have been at the slot machine the whole time, but she would have gone. Do you remember that Vegas trip? Yeah. We went twice. Do you know that? I don't know. Do you remember that Vegas trip? Yeah. We went twice. Do you know that? I don't know. Do I? Yeah.

We went for one time. We went for like a birthday. And then another time we went for. Am I wrong? I might be wrong. I don't know. Well, we definitely went to shoot the thing with the Blue Man Group. And then we stayed and had a party, right?

Yeah. No, that was the wrap party. Was the wrap party and the Blue Man group thing the same trip? No. There were two trips to Vegas. There were like three or four trips to Vegas, dude. Oh, God. What a good deal. Great deal.

That's another question. When's the last time any of you have been to Vegas? I don't think it's wise for me to go to Vegas anymore. Yeah. I remember when I went to Vegas and I think Bill was there. I was like, I've never played poker or I've never played roulette.

He said, come on, come on. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. And I played and I beat him and he got pissed. I remember Bill Lawrence

has one of the best quotes about Vegas that I always think about. And he goes, I've never had a good second night in Vegas. That's the thing. Who does? You got to go and get the fuck out and get out get out Donald I once went to Vegas with Donald and Judy once once I've been to Vegas many times with Donald but once he uh we were playing blackjack and he got crushed and he went upstairs and went to sleep it was like 9 30 he was so mad that how badly he got beaten, Blackjack,

that he just, he said, I'm out. And I don't think you came back out. You went to bed at like 9.30. Well, I came out the next day. I met y'all at the pool the next day. You had a good night's sleep. Yeah. I wanted to say that that billboard at 9.58

that Kelso has made was really up. So nowadays that would be a visual effect. But back in 2001, they made that billboard. And I remember it was up for a little while. Right, Donald? Yeah. I didn't realize that the rainbow flag was behind it, though. Well, diversity.

Yeah. You know what? I thought the diversity was the fact that a white guy and a black guy could work at the same hospital together. Not that the black guy was gay? Not that the black guy was gay. But remember that they took down all the posters in the hospital, but they left the what's up up for a while? Yeah. Those were hilarious, by the way.

When I was watching this episode, I was like, I wish I had one of those as a souvenir. Me too. Time to get an EKGG would be hanging up in my house, dude. Time to get an EKGG is my favorite one. Oh my gosh. I wanted to say that a 1008 is when you get mad at me, we're in the car about the billboard, and then I do an homage to the movie Vacation where I go, roll them up. Do you remember that?

Yes. Do you remember in the movie Vacation when Chevy Chase is frantically, they end up in a bad neighborhood and they're stealing their hubcaps and they hear a gunshot and Chevy Chase goes, roll them up. Roll them up. Roll off the windows. No doubt. So I just recognize my homage to Vacation there.

You also said keep it real. You also said keep it real in the scene where you come, where we apologize to each other. Yeah, say after the fist bump. After the fist bump, you said, keep it real. Keep it real. That's a bit of an homage to, I would say. Oh, to Chevy Chase? No, to Clueless. Oh, to Clueless. Sorry. 1041, the Sanford and Son thing, which is pretty funny. And I laughed out loud when you did it reluctantly. You did your sad, like, I try and get you into the Sanford Sun thing, and then you sort of. I do it because I can't really help it.

Yeah. Yeah, but you had this look on your face. It was so reluctant, but you can't help it. But I can't help it. Yeah. And then it cuts to an ass-slapping dance where we're singing separate. Yes. Dirty.

It's just dirty. That's a special moment in Scrubs history with us both dancing and ass-slapping. Bill had referenced you being on the brochure twice when he's on. This is the moment that happens, 1134. Now, he said this was a problem that some people got mad about it. I'm sure people get mad at everything, but I think this was a real story. I think, as I understand, this was taken from a real anecdote where a college had gotten caught putting the same person on the brochure twice. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back.

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So he does not know that he's about to come on and talk to you guys. Wow. Hi, Tiffany. That's really nice of you. That's really nice of you, Tiffany. So Tiffany, he has no clue that he's going to speak to the three of us. No, he has absolutely no idea. Our anniversary is on Friday, nine years.

Well, nine years married this year. Best anniversary present ever. Never buying anything. Oh, my goodness. Ever again. Tiffany, are you also in your closet? Yes, Faison style, right? No doubt.

I love it. And Judy Reyes style, as you can see. Judy Reyes is in her closet too now tiffany what are you gonna tell him are you gonna say that you you guys could get on a zoom are you gonna be like yo get your ass in the closet right now get in the closet no don't don't that he'll be disappointed if he finds out it's us and his wife's luring him to the closet yeah he has no idea i had to come up with a very elaborate ruse to try to work all this out i'm a horrible liar. So he

either thinks I'm having some kind of breakdown or hiding something from him. So with a big reveal, it's going to be fabulous. So what's the plan? How do we best reveal? How do you do this? I don't know. He thinks I'm in the closet right now on an important work phone call. And so I was going to go out there and say, I need tech support. I can't, um, I can't log into the call. Go do it. Go do it right now it. Right now? Are we ready? Are we ready? I might cry, guys, and I'm an ugly crier. Just a fair warning. Looks like I got hit in the face

with a sack of marbles. Don't worry. Nobody's going to be able to see you cry. Donald's going to virtually hug you. And we're fake doctors, so we're kind of used to... Yeah, we see lots of fake emotion. Nice. I'll be right back. This is exciting. Good work, Joelle lots of fake emotion. Yeah. Nice. Okay, I'm gonna be right back. This is exciting.

Good work, Joelle. Good producing, Joelle. This really added a little spice. I'm nervous. Are you guys nervous? I'm excited. I don't want him to be disappointed. What if he's like, oh, I thought... Donald's drunk. He doesn't feel anything. Yeah, Donald's drunk. I'm not drunk. Hold on. Guys, I've got a nice little buzz going.

Oh, God. Why do we have to be quiet? I'm really stressed out. These are just my coworkers that are from the call. Hi. Hey. Hey. Hey.

Where are your coworkers? Oh, my God. Can you help us with this? Carla, I mean, I'm sorry. Can you help us with this? Judy. Judy. Judy Reyes.

Here, they can't. Happy anniversary. This is for you. Judy. Judy Reyes. Here, they might. Here, they can't. Faison. Happy anniversary. This is for you. No. This is for you? Yes. Come sit down. Come sit down.

It's for you. Come on. Come sit down. Join us. Leave your cheese to sour. Do you know what today is? It's your anniversary. Oh my god, they're crying.

Anniversary. Oh, you guys can hug. Oh, now they're hugging, you guys. They're hugging. Joelle's crying. This is so beautiful. He seems to be crying. How did you do this? Hi. Hi.

Hi. Your wife called. This is how I went down. Your wife called Disney Studios and was like, I need a favor. And Disney Studios provided. That's not true at all. That's not true at all. Your amazing wife got you on our podcast.

And we, the three of us, Donald Faison, Judy Reyes, and I, Zach Braff, are your anniversary present. You can thank iHeartRadio. You can thank Joelle. And you can thank Dan. And Tiffany Rodriguez, Donald. Tiffany Rodriguez. And most importantly, you thank your wife.

Do y'all want to hug? They did hug. They can hug again. Virtual hug. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This is so exciting. Oh, my God.

Joelle's crying. Everybody's crying. I'm not crying. Well, you will be. I'm not going to cry. Well, anyway, hi. We're so glad that you like our little TV show. And we just wanted to say happy anniversary.

And if you wanted to ask us anything or anything, we're here to answer questions. It could be about the show. It could be about your life. Whatever you want. Oh, my God. I feel like Turk when he met Lando. Oh, my God. Lando can't risk it.

I mean Turk Chris Turk oh my god Jadon Lando do it Donald give him a little Lando Lando Calrissian you know

here's a little here's a little here's a little trivia I was doing like a celebration so Star Wars has a celebration every

year right and I was doing one of the celebrations because I voiced one of the celebrations because i voiced one of the uh characters on a star wars television show and right yeah somebody told me that billy d williams was next door and that i should go say hi to him and i got really excited i was like oh snap land billy d wants to say hi to me okay let me go say hi so i walked into the room and i you know there's a bunch of people in line and they're waiting to say hi to me. Okay, let me go say hi. So I walked into the room, and there's a bunch of people in line,

and they're waiting to say hi to Billy Dee and take a picture with him. And I walk in, and I go, ah, Landon Coward is in. And he jumps, and then he looks over at me, and he's like, the line's over there. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You must have been crushed. He's like your hero. Oh, it broke my heart. It broke my heart. In your mind. It broke my God. Oh, my God. You must have been crushed. He's like your hero. Oh, it broke my heart.

It broke my heart. It broke my heart. In your mind, you thought he was going to be like, Donald! Donald! We're now over here. Come over here, my friend. Oh, my God.

Anyway. So if you have any questions that you want to ask, don't be shy tell us ask us anything favorite guest star favorite guest star favorite guest star judy do you want to go first since you're our favorite a guest ever you guys had a lot i had i could tell you the first most shocking guest star because i don't know i'm like um zach i don't necessarily get starstruck but i remember the first time um i remember we had eric estrada yes and he was on the you guys remember no eric estrada from chips of course for those of you out there who don't who don't remember the show chips uh there was a actor on the show by the name of eric estrada

who was america's heartthrob back in the day. Yeah, yeah. Yes, and he wasn't supposed to be the star of the show. Who knows? Nobody remembers his name. Yeah, John. I don't remember him. No, that's the character's name.

Eric Estrada is the actual name of the dude who played Ponch. Joelle, can you tell us his name, please? I feel disrespectful. I feel disrespectful myself, too. But nonetheless, when i came into hair and makeup and and there was eric estrada getting his he was just doing like a you know like a real quick guest appearance and i saw him i was like by just standing in the same room with this guy i couldn't even speak right and now i have a big giant i did i remember uh

wayne brady had a a talk show at that time and i i told him that story and he gave me a giant uh poster of eric estrada that i still have in my garage of eric estrada hot pants yeah i remember i remember that uh eric estrada wore really tight tight uh motorcycle pants they all did the name by the that you looked for was Wilcox. Larry Wilcox. Larry Wilcox, yes. There you go. There you go.

My apologies, Larry. It's all right. You didn't have his name, but we want to make sure we get it out there to respect all members of the Screen Actors Guild. Donald, who is your

favorite guest star? Billy Dee Williams, obviously. I really enjoyed when Colin Farrell came on the show. Right, you were geeked about that. I loved Colin Farrell. I loved that scene. I really liked that. All of us, the show. Right. You were geeked about that.

I loved Colin Farrell. I loved that scene. I really liked that. All of us, men and women, almost made out with him. Yeah. Sarah really was excited to make out with him. And then, of course, Brendan Fraser, man. Yes.

And also Ryan Reynolds. You're supposed to pick one, Donald. You're supposed to pick one. If I have to pick one? The exercise was to pick one, not just start listing off famous people. Oh. Well, then, for me, it would have to be

Billy Dee Williams. For me, it was John Ritter, hands down. Oh, yes! Because John Ritter, when I was a kid, you'll hear me say this over and over again, my intro to physical comedy was Three's Company. I just thought that was the funniest shit I had ever seen in my life. And John Ritter doing physical comedy was just, he could fall over a couch like, like no one. And I just thought he was a master. And

then, so when he came on to play my father, I was just gushing. I was just, I loved him so much. And in fact, he was supposed to come back for the second time. Literally, he was going to shoot Monday, and I believe he died that weekend, the weekend before. No, he died the... If not the night before. No, yeah. He was supposed to come in and he passed away after they wrapped or while they were making the show that he was on at the time and he was going to come and do our show the next day. Right.

And it's really amazing how quickly Tom Cavanaugh, who was not scheduled to be on the show, showed up to be on the episode and how they changed it around to make it so that John Ritter's character had passed away on the show as well. Yeah. They had to frantically rewrite it. But that's mine. I mean, I'm literally getting goosebumps as I tell this story. And I had him, I have a framed wall in my house of all these framed family pictures.

And Donald's on there a few times, of course. And there was literally, one of the most prominent pictures was a picture of me and John Ritter. Just because he was just so important to me. And I loved him a lot. I remember when he said my name the first time and it caught me, it kind of caught me off guard. You know what I mean? I was like, holy cow. Wow. John Ritter knows my name. You know what I mean? As you did, Zach, I also grew up on Three's Company. And yeah, that's a, you know what, Yeah, that's a, you know what, as much as I love Billy Dee Williams, meeting John Ritter was, and Michael J. Fox also, were highlights for me. Yeah.

All right. How about another question? Because now that it looks like your face has settled in a little bit, you're not stunned as much anymore. You know, your eyes aren't bulging out of your head anymore. I don't know if I have another question. Tiffany, do you have any questions? Tiffany, how about you? Would you guys ever consider doing a live taping so that we could go and see you? Like after all this?

Yeah, obviously after all the COVID-19 stuff. Well, go ahead. You were going to say, yeah, Donald. We want to do that. We just don't know when all of this is going to go away. You know what I mean? I don't know where you guys are. We're in Los Angeles right now,

and we have strict policies in Los Angeles, as we should. We have a lot of COVID patients here. And so I don't know. Well, even COVID aside, there's no plans to do anything like that and in fact you know scrubs was shot like a film not um in front of an audience although as you recall we did that um that one sitcom spoof where we did it in front of a live audience that was yeah that was look he knows the title you are good um that was a lot of fun, you know, because I'd never, Donald had done sitcoms before. I had never done a sitcom.

Judy, had you? No. I mean, I did a pilot and I did a guest star. And I had done theater, but it was really fun doing that. Do you guys remember that? Oh, it was a blast. I just remember thinking like, oh, now I see the allure of doing a sitcom. It's such a high, like the audience is so amped up up it's like cold and they've got a lot of sugar and uh and they just laugh at whatever

you do and um and and we obviously it was a well-written episode so it was genuinely funny but i remember really thinking like oh that could be fun to do are you guys in the medical industry at all i'm just curious because you're such enormous fans. Oh, no. No. I was military for, I was army for a little bit, but... Where do you guys live?

Northern California. Patterson, it's right up the five on the other side of the Bay Area. Oh, so you guys are in the Bay Area. We could be over in like five and a half hours if you guys can make us dinner.

Anytime. Anytime. What y'all cooking? What y'all cooking tonight? Tacos? Tacos I love tacos It's Taco Wednesday over here as well Really?

You guys let's head up there We'll drive in separate cars and we'll sit in your backyard Open invitation guys We will maintain safe distancing I promise you Thank you guys Thank you so much What a great surprise Thank you guys for the show Happy anniversary distancing, I promise you. Well, thank you so much for what a great surprise.

Thank you guys for the show. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary. Tiffany, you are a good wife, I gotta say. That was a good surprise. Yeah, I'm never gonna have to buy anything ever again. I'm just gonna take a picture of that and just say, that's it, every year. Remember 2020? That's what happened. Take the picture now. Let's take the picture

and let me get fresh for you. Let me get fresh for you, though. Wait, I got my phone. Let me get fresh for you. Is that okay? Can we take a picture? Yeah, of course you can. Yes, of course. Okay.

Make sure you get Joelle, too. Okay. And that's how we'll always remember them. That's how we'll always remember them. Oh, there they are. Did you get her? Oh, my God. I accidentally did airplane mode.

Should have heard him, though. He's like, no! He screams. Oh, my God. Wow. Guys, you were just totally awesome. And thank you for doing this. It's our pleasure.

Watching the show, listening to the podcast. It's just awesome right now. Thank you. We're having so much fun doing it. And it means a lot to us that you're loving listening. And please stay safe up there and enjoy Taco Wednesday. We will do that. Be healthy.

Thank you. Bye, guys. Thank you do that. Be healthy. Thank you. Thank you. Bye, guys. Thank you, guys. Bye. Yeah, you technically are supposed to hang up, but you don't have to. We can be together forever. I'm going to back my hair.

I like it. I like it, Judy. Let's do that. We're rocking the curly hair. I'm a fan. No, no, but really, hang up now because we've got the rest of the show. I'm just kidding. Okay, get out of here.

Donald's like, no, no, no, get the fuck kidding. Donald's like, no joke, get the fuck out. No, seriously. Rodriguez says, getting the fuck out. Got it. No, no, no. Love y'all. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys.

Thank you. Bye. Joelle, good job. Oh my gosh, that was great. Joelle, I don't know how a caller can, I mean, you really brought it. How did you do that? I don't know how anyone's ever going to compete with that, Joelle. You know, I wanted to really quickly give some tips.

If you guys want to write in the letter, make sure your subject line is just really expressive. That's going to pop out. It's like, we have thousands and thousands of letters from people wanting to call in. And so just, you know, whatever you can put your question in there.

If you have a good one, if you have a good story, we'll probably wait till we surprise someone. So don't try to set that up just yet. You know, in other words words top that bitches well listen we should we should remind people if you do even though joelle's saying she's getting thousands of them if you do want to ask a question uh you go to you write an email to

scrubs iheart at gmail.com find a way to stand out and out, and it'll all be up to Joelle's eyeballs who gets to come on. Yeah, don't blame me if you call in, and you try to call in, or you send an email, and you don't get a response. It's not my fault. You blame Joelle.

You're not going to believe this, but Donald's not the one sifting through the thousands of emails. Yeah, you blame Joelle. Yeah, you blame Joelle. It's her fault. You got to put some bass in your voice. Bass in your voice.

You ain't going to fall for no banana in the tailpipe. You're not going to fall for no banana in the tailpipe? I ain't going to fall for no banana in the tailpipe. This guy too much. Wait a minute. No banana, no tailpipe? What the fuck? All right.

So I was going to say something. Go ahead. Before we go, I was going to say something. Go ahead. Oh, look, you got notes. I'm so impressed. I always have notes. These are from, I always have notes.

Oh, good. I didn't know that you were always rocking notes. I just thought you were making drinks over there in the closet. No. Boy, oh boy. Boy, oh boy. Go ahead. Dr. Kelso calls Turk, Turk.

Yeah. And that's Dr. Turk. He calls him Dr. Turk. Now, right, and not Tur turkleton so does this mess up the lore that kelso doesn't know turk's last name is turkleton and he's just calling him dr turk like he would call uh uh dr dorian doctor he would therefore be calling Dr. Dory and Dr. John, or that they decide somewhere down the line, this is a good Bill Lawrence question, that they decide somewhere down the line

that Kelso just forgot Turk's name altogether. Okay, we'll ask Bill that here, Joel. What was the intention? I imagine that someone just missed it and decided it would be funny later on if Kelso had no idea what your name and thought your name was Turk Turkelton, which is very funny. That's one of the funniest.

That's another thing that I really loved. I've been spewing about this, Judy, because I really feel like our relationship is the one. I really feel like our relationship is the one, I mean, yeah, they follow JD and Elliot throughout the show, but our relationship from the gate, from the beginning of the show to season eight is, you know, you watch it grow. and by season three when we finally get into the wedding and all of that stuff i really felt like it was earned by the time we got there you know what i mean like we had been through so many the characters had been through so many things and so you know when i look back at all of this stuff when i look back at me singing mrs jones and you know me hiding in your in your closet at your mom's house. And then when you finally

decide to move in and there's a breakup between Turk and Carla and all of that stuff before they get married, I feel like it's really earned. And I don't necessarily remember how the episode of us getting married turns out, but I just remember it feeling so epic when we were shooting it. You know what I mean? Because all of this stuff that we had been through in the first few seasons were coming to a head at at that point and i just felt like our romance on the show was just i you know i said it to bill i think i thought it was perfect you didn't you didn't necessarily need to watch the show to understand that turk and carla were the were They belong together. Yeah.

They were strength and the foundation. Yeah. A part of that, like, in essence, kind of like the way the episode ends, it's kind of like the reason you belong in this place and the way these people build together like a family. It's kind of like, you know, they're like that parental force, that place that you belong, the reason that you feel like you go there, you know they're like that parental force that place that you belong the reason that you feel like you go there you know what i mean like meant to be you know despite

the the fuck ups and the breakups and the ups and the downs they're funny together they understand each other he's um silly um where she's a little too serious because you can't have them both be silly at the same time right you know what i mean she's she's got she she grounds she grounds him yeah she grounds him and she grounds like a lot of other people you know what i mean where she begs to be light when she's not you know she has to like loosen up sometimes you know what i mean where she teaches people about the place that they're in. Right. Where she has to be taken out of there sometimes.

Kind of like Cox has to be taken out of there sometimes. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. So they pull each other out of where they are, and they bring each other to where they have to be. Yeah. Speaking of. You know what I mean?

Very much yin and yang, you know what I mean? Yeah. I remember somebody asking me, well, what do you have in common with your wife? other to where they have to be. Speaking of- You know what I mean? Very much yin and yang. You know what I mean? I remember somebody asking me, well, what do you have in common with your wife? I was like, well, I don't have that much in common with my wife, to be honest with you. We do love each other passionately and stuff like that. That's the one thing we do have in common, but we're not necessarily the same people. And I think that's very much the same with Chris Turk and Carla. same people. And I think that's very much the same with Chris Turk and Carla. I think that the two of them, they might be both from the inner... I don't even know that Turk is from the inner city.

I know Carla's from the inner city. But Turk, in this episode, we discovered that he was always the black dude in this situation. You know what I mean? Even in the science fair, where they give him the blue ribbon, even though he didn't compete in the science fair where they give him the blue ribbon, even though he didn't compete in the science fair. And also at college, because they weren't a lot of black kids at the college, they put them in the brochure twice. But anyway, my point is their personalities aren't necessarily the same, but they compliment each other so well. Yeah. That is like you and Casey. I mean, it's funny you say that because you guys are so perfect together, but yeah, yin yang is the perfect- We're completely different. That is like you and Casey. I mean, it's funny you say that because you guys are so perfect together.

But yeah, yin-yang is the perfect way to put it. We're completely different. Way to put it, but so different. Yeah, I think that's what worked about Carla and Turk. Carla is so serious, and Turk's such a fucking goofball. But you put them together, and you get the perfect couple. I want to just touch on the scene when Johnny C berates me at 1818 in the conference room. I thought Johnny's performance there was really, really good.

And it's a really powerful scene. It was an early moment in Scrubs where he's just laying all out there. There's no score that's sort of forcing your emotions. It was just like him just laying in to me. I thought he was really good there. I thought he was great in it. And I watched it twice the episode and i remember when i first when what i do remember about the episode and having seen when i

saw it initially it was like he's just so hard on him you know but i'm a parent now yeah and uh and then my husband who's like uh coaches sucker is hard like that. And he's hard like that on my daughter. And I get it. Do you know what I mean? I was like, shit, I get it. You know, it's like a person who wants approval can be so satisfied with being liked and everybody being okay with, you know, thinking that you're good or or being uh uh approved by everyone around you instead of knowing that they're the job that they're doing is a good job or you knowing that what you did was well done instead of people liking you or liking what you did you know and

that's a really hard place to be when you have to look at yourself you know what i'm saying i'm watching it was like shit that was so good which johnny c is like no one's harder on johnny c than johnny z yeah he really brought it i mean i i just i thought you know that's a pretty big speech he had and he just i don't know i got goosebumps when i was watching it but he's relentless like that there's a funny moment in 1949 when elliot to give your friend Valium. I'm like, a doctor's allowed to do that? Your friend is upset because her son got stabbed and Elliot's like, don't worry, we're going to set you up with a Valium and an IV drip. I was like, what? That's a thing? I mean, if it's not, it should be. Because I would need it if my kid got stabbed. I'm going to tell you that right now. I would lose my shit. I just didn't know

if doctors are allowed to like just start throwing around valium for people that are upset well with the stuff that's out now that's like nothing so i'll give you two xanax and an opiate you'll be fine he's like i'm worried i'm worried about you i'm gonna set you up in a room with a valium and a drip i was like really go elliot In an inner city hospital with people pouring out the doors. That's what's messed up. It's an inner city hospital that so heavily

relies on insurance. It was 20 years ago, Faison. I'm just saying, this shit is still prevalent. This shit is still real today, yo. I'm just keeping it 100. At 1958, it may be the very first occurrence of the sad Scrubs cue. Ba-ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da That's the first time I heard it. Oh, okay. For those of you who don't know, this Scrubs cue will go on for a really long time

until finally we started making fun of it so much. Yeah, that JD starts commenting on the sad Scrubs song. And it gets taken out of the show because of that. I think what happened was- What season does it get taken out? Oh, that I don't know. I think the composer made made like a handful of cues and then these guys just used the same cues over and over again.

There's not that many... You know, when we don't use music, there's not that many Scrubs cues. It's like... That would be like a sting when something funny happened. They just go... After something Robert said.

After everything MASH said. Yeah. Benign, benign and a half, down. That's the janitor, benign, benign and a half,

Donald. I thought that was, that's the episode where I have to look at the janitor's, I catch a look at the janitor's penis and I,

and I notice that there's a mole on it and I, and then I have to inspect it. And I go, it's benign. And he goes, benign, benign and a half. I thought that was the Todd that said that this whole time. That's hilarious.

Oh, man. Like I said, I don't remember this show. I was on it, and I don't remember much about it. Well, that's the show, guys. That's the episode, pretty much. Yeah. Judy, will you come do this more? Because I think

we really like having you on. I hope I can speak for my co-host, Donald Faison. I would love it if you came back again. I would love to return. Anytime you want to. We will make that happen. And Judy, since you are one of my favorite guests to ever be on our little podcast,

and also because you have a beautiful voice i thought you could be the first one to ever count us in to our our theme song that ends the show donald uh prefers to go five six seven eight um i i i don't know how you feel you can count in any way you so choose it's five six seven eight okay yeah donald do you want to weigh in on however you want to do it it's all right right with me. Is it like five, six, seven, eight.

That's pretty good. That'll work. That could work. Yeah. Okay. But let's do it for real now. Okay, here we go.

That was pretty good. Okay. But I want to just, yeah. Judy Reyes. Uh, we love you. Thank you for coming on the podcast.

Count us in to our theme song. Five, six, seven, eight. Some stories about a show we made about a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate.

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