Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 115: My Bed Banter and Beyond with Randall Winston.

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

On this week's episode of Scrubs, JD and Elliot attempt to carry out a secret relationship while at work. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by Scrubs Producer Randall Winston.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wait, are you really trying? Wait, hold on. Let me get this straight. Are you really trying not to eat meat nowadays? I am a pescatarian. I'm trying that out. When did you become a pescatarian? I watched this documentary that really got me inspired about stopping eating animals besides fish. You sound like my dad. My dad is the same way right now.

The documentary was called The Game Changers? Is that what it's called? Yes, Game Changers. But I've never done anything. I love burgers. I love all the shit we all have eaten our whole lives. But we have all this time on our hands, right? It's like an experimentation time on every front, right?

You can experiment with... I've been experimenting with all sorts of things in my life as I'm sure a lot of people have. And one was like, okay, well, let me just try this during this time to only be a fish eater. And I do feel better. I do feel healthier. Well, that's great. But I know you're very meat passionate, Donald.

You know, I'm trying to stay away from the red meat. That's the hardest thing to stay away from. It's so tasty. So I've been trying to figure out different ways to cook a chicken. And I've been doing that a lot lately. But yeah, you're right. I do agree that too much meat is bad for you, obviously. Because you know, cholesterol says something about that.

Blood pressure said something about that, heart disease, colorectal cancer says a lot about that, you know what I mean? And that's when you eat too much red meat usually or processed foods. I'm having a hard time getting off of all of that stuff though. That's the problem. I know man. So addictive. I gotta tell you last night we had a fake burger. You had Beyond Burger? It wasn't one of the fancy ones. Beyond? It wasn't Beyond or Impossible. Those are the only two names I know.

And we just got it at a supermarket. It was a nice brand. I forgot the brand. But it was amazing. I mean, once you put cheese on it and all the fixins and your spices, it's great. Yeah, but once you put the cheese on it, you're no longer Presquitarian, whatever it is that you're trying to be. Presquitarian, that's, yeah, I can eat cheese.

I'm just not eating, I'm not eating meat. I'm not eating any form of meat other than fish. All right, well, should we sing? You don't seem happy, I want you to get happy. You seem very dumb. I'm very happy. You can't sing unless you're happy, Donald. It ruins the whole song. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

You have a furrowed brow. I am very happy, first of all. Okay, well let me see it. We're about to bring on Randall Winston, one of the most exciting people. I'm really excited about that. I don't want him to see... You better turn that motherfucking bearded frown upside down. I'm telling you something right now. Randall Winston is responsible for some of the most happiest moments of my life, so I can't wait to have him on.

Okay, well then count these motherfuckers in. Five, six, seven, eight motherfuckers! Who love to hate, I said, here's the stories That we all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our Scrubs we watch, your with Zach and I know Mm-hmm Randall Winston! There he is. Why is he wearing like a gaming headset?

Hahaha! That's the only headset I could find There he is. Why is he wearing like a gaming headset? That's the only headset I could find. Oh my god, you're so adorable right now. You're playing Xbox later, buddy. Did we interrupt you from Call of Duty? Or are you flying a chopper anytime soon? I wish. Oh my god, we're so excited to have you on the show. Yeah we hear you just fine. Awesome. Yes this is my son's gaming headset. I knew it. By the way this is gonna be so I wish the audience could see. Randall is wearing a gaming headset

but if you don't play games picture a helicopter headset. Right. And he's in his beautiful garden and he's wearing his kids kids gaming and literally is it literally is a game lights up. I love it. I love it. How are you man? How are you Randy? I am fantastic. I mean, all things considered. I'm great. You know, congratulations on your pickup. Yes, thank you. What's his show? We didn't get picked up, Randall, but you did.

I'm so sorry. It's all right. I'm sorry. Don't worry about it. Donald, I didn't know you didn't get picked up. I'm sorry. It's all good. ABC decided not to go further with Emergence.

But better news, ABC decided to go further with Mixedish, which is Randall's show. Thank you. Now, let me get this straight. Randall, you're executive producer on the show now. That is correct. Look at you, man. Started at Randall.

You got to go back because Randall's career is on fuego. And I think if, uh, for people that want to, uh, go into Hollywood, Randall is a really exciting case of someone that's on fuego right now. Well, not only is it in fuego, I remember a video. I don't know how I saw this video, is it Fuego, I remember a video. I don't know how I saw this video, but it was a video of you pretty much manifesting your destiny.

You know what I mean? Saying, this is what I wanna do. I wanna move to Hollywood. I wanna be a big time producer. And you're very young in this video too. I don't know how I saw this video. I don't know if you see this video. I don't know how you started. It was posted by a friend of mine.

It was our 21st birthday or something like that. This is a girl who I met on the journey to Los Angeles. We met at a rest stop in Oklahoma and became life and friends. We were on our way to come find our dreams and she was very into documenting everything. Donald, I can't believe you saw that, that's crazy. Donald and I are very into, well, I don't know, Donald, I think you are, but I'm very pro right now, manifesting your shit and making everything happen. My friend, our friend Amanda is missed like whiteboard

and writing everything down. And actually I became friendly with John Legend's manager. I think I've told you this story, Donald, who said that everything that John Legend has accomplished, they put on a whiteboard when they were kids, like out of college. And they were writing down, they were laughing, like, I don't know, this many Grammys and cover a Time magazine. And they were just cracking each other up. And she's like, every single thing we put on that whiteboard

happened. Yeah, he got an EGOT. John Legend got an EGOT. He's got the EGOT. Well, Randall's going to get a fucking EGOT, especially for his acting skills. Oh, boy, here we go. No, we had to get into it because Donald called me out

to Randall saying that I dissed his work as death in the show. And Randall texted me very upseted his work as death in the show. And Randall texted me very upset about death, his work as death being criticized. I mean, I think I played the part that was required of death. I also, you know, death is not the only role that they played on Scrubs. Oh, no, you also, well, we haven't gotten to the security guard yet. He hasn't been introduced yet, the hook handed security guard.

Oh, I forgot that you were the hook handed security guard. Leonard, who had. Leonard! Leonard! Who had tens of fans. Just. Randal, how many episodes did Leonard do, do you think? I don't know exactly how many episodes he did, but I will tell you this, all fans that wrote to me,

so many people from men's prison, got some sort of treat, a signed script or something from Scripps. So you weren't able to do it and not get carpet tunnel, is what you're saying, because there's only like tens of them. Exactly. Would you really give fan mail? Yeah.

Yeah. Leonard. Not a lot. Who got more fan mail? Leonard or Dev? Leonard for sure. Let's go back to the beginning. Yes, let's start at the very beginning. I tried to do that with you manifesting your destiny.

But at some point, things changed for you. Like you lived in New York for a little bit, and then you moved to Los Angeles. Can you just tell us how it all started and how you got connected with Bill, and how this all transc and how you got connected with Bill and how this became and how this all transcended into Scrubs. Yes. The truth is, Bill and I met socially first.

As a matter of fact, on Scrubs, we kept a graduation photo in Turk and JD's apartment and told everybody that was our graduation picture. But we really, we met on the basketball court. I had an I had an old room. So I had I had driven out from the Midwest. You know, I'm trying to try to find my dream, got to Los Angeles, snuck on to all the lots in town, got myself a job and I started creating my circle,

you know, your chosen family, your LA family, and a guy who was my best friend, who I lived with, a guy named Greg Malins, who went on to run Friends and How I Met Your Mother and a bunch of other stuff, he and Bill had this, played in this Saturday game and invited me to play a few times and that's how that was how I originally met met Bill I went from

working for a guy named Gary Dave Goldberg that was my my very first job he's the guy who created Family Ties yeah yeah he was amazing. He was an amazing mentor and he had taken bill under his wing so so Gary is in some ways the reason that we started working together and the first show we did together was a show called champs that was the first show we did together and Kevin Nealon was in it and it was it was DreamWorks very first TV show That kind of okay just to so Kevin Nealon who Zack remembers being at the First party we ever had yeah

Front parties. Yeah, that's why Kevin Nealon was there Zack. He wasn't there because he was a fan of the show He was there because he worked with Bill and Randall Okay. Well,, he may have been a coincidence, but okay, I'll hear you. Okay. Randall, you froze. Are you still there? Oh, boy. And that was when we lost Randall. Oh, God. What are you drinking there? Mimosa? Little Mimosa on Memorial Day. Yeah, buddy, I think about Memorial Day is it's just another weekday that you can rationalize. It's okay to drink early. Yeah I mean now in this day and age it doesn't feel any different. My girlfriend was like it's Memorial Day. I'm like How is that gonna be different from any other day that we're living in hibernation right now? Well the kids don't really we can Yeah, the kids don't have to get on Zoom today or anything like that. Okay, I guess if you have kids, they don't have to get on their Zoom things.

But today is a day where, you know, my wife looked at me and was like, you're drinking already? And I was like, it's Memorial Day. It's Memorial Day. So did she then join you? No, she did not. She was like, you're an alcoholic. I was like, oh shit, be like, baby, it's Memorial Day.

And on that note, I'm going upstairs to do my podcast. OK, Randall says he's resetting the Wi-Fi. Oh, God. That's that's that's unfortunate. You know, we lost all the momentum of blowing this guy up. We're going to have to regenerate it. We're going to have to regenerate it. We're going to have to regenerate our. We're going to have to regenerate it. We're going to have to regenerate our Randall blow up. He said fucking spectrum.

I just had my dad switch off of spectrum for the same reason. That shit is do to. Trash. Spectrum is bad. Dan, you don't support. Now guys, I want you to listen. This is a very, very technical man here and he's saying fuck spectrum. So if you're choosing a provider, listen to Dan.

The only way that I found that you get good internet service is if you just switch from provider to provider every year or so, because they don't reward loyalty. There's no like your bill is reduced, your service is better. It just gets worse and worse and worse. And they wanna keep getting new customers. So I have gigabit internet, a thousand megabytes up and down for 75 bucks a month,

which is the cheapest internet I've ever had. And it's just because I switched. What are you using now, Dan? What company? AT&T. AT&T. All right. Well, guys, you're hearing in a year first that Dan really recommends AT&T.

You can work the companies against each other if you're constantly quitting one and saying, no, fuck off, you suck. And then they give you a better rate. So if you have the time, which you do now, you too can have fancy fast internet like Dan Randall. Welcome back. Blowing you up. And then you had to do a wifi problem. All right. So let's get back into it. So you, let's just jump to in the spirit of time. Let's just keep this moving.

You start work on spin city with Bill and you hit it off. You become besties, you're partying around the city, you're young men in Manhattan, go. It's amazing. How did you get from LA to Manhattan? How did that happen? Well, we're- You took a plane, Donald. No doubt.

Fuck you, man. The fight, if I could reach through this screen right now. You know what? It goes back to basketball. We came off the basketball court one night playing and Gary and Bill pulled me aside and they said, you know, we just wrote this pilot, but we sent it to Michael J Fox.

And they said, there's a character, the mayor is named after you. I think your mother would be very proud Mayor Randall Winston and made by the great Barry Bosworth and with the show got we did the pilot in LA but Michael was living in New York and said he would only do the series if we took it to New York so that was the opportunity of a lifetime you know know, changed my life. I got the chance to go to New York. Gary took a select group of people and Donald, you know, Sebastian, you guys know Sebastian Jones, we moved, we all went to New York with all excitement.

Nobody was over anything. Everybody just was into going to the city. You were wide eyed. How old were you? I was, I think I was 29. I think I turned 30 that year. But Bill was, Bill's a year younger than me and he had like the first American Express black card and he would say, you know, Randall go out and find us an after hours every Friday. So there'd be lines at these after hours clubs and they're like, you know, absolutely. We don't have any room. I'd be like, you got room now motherfucker.

Now I'd say, I'd say I need two cases of champagne and a private room. And that was just the beginning. Right now. I gotta tell you something. Some of my favorite moments, some of the best moments of my life I've shared with you, Rand, you have been present at some of the most special moments, some of the most wildest moments, some of the craziest moments of my life have been with you there. I love that.

Everything from partying in Vegas to marrying him and his wife and everything in between, Randall has been there. I love that. Everything, everything from partying in Vegas to marrying him and his wife and everything in between. Randall has been there. He has been there. How many people have you married Randall? 17 successful couples. Donald, what I say, I said, you got to be serious because everybody I marry stays together.

Right. How many, how many people have gotten divorced? Zero. You got a good streak. You got a good streak. I don't want people messing my streak up. Now, Randall, if I'm listening to this, I was preparing for this and I thought, if I'm listening to this and I'm interested in production, but I don't

know anything about it, I see in the credits all the time a line producer, but I see exec producer, I see associate producer, I see all these titles. Could you explain to people that have nothing to do with the business what a line producer does? Yes, yes, it's true that TV credits are lousy with producers and usually if the credit is line producer or produced by, Usually if the credit is line producer or produced by, that credit is reserved for the person who is essentially responsible for keeping the train

running on time, making sure that you've got the right crew people in the right place, making sure that the show is on budget, that it is getting delivered on time, not just within the time constraints of your time slot, but delivered the day that it's supposed to be delivered, sort of soup to nuts. It starts with the prep, which is, as it sounds, the preparing of the show. When you first get a little bit of information

about the series and each episode, you start to break it down with your team. How many actors are we gonna need? Do we need to build sets? Are we going out anywhere? And what is it gonna take? And I think that job at its best is a Negotiator and a translator, you know, that's somebody who you know, oftentimes it was between I'm working between bill it was between, I'm working between Bill on Scrubs,

between Bill who created the show and the studio and the network, so that everybody's getting what they need. And even when they're not speaking the same language or figure out what the best thing to accomplish, what's in the script is, can be accomplished within the box that's been built. Yeah, and the line producers also, if you think about it, the keeper of the purse, in a sense that when you're directing or show running, you will often think, oh, I think

we should, I wrote this big scene, it'd be great to shoot it in this amazing restaurant. And then I want to get a crane outside that's going to come down here. And then it would be cool if it was raining outside This is when the line producer starts to sweat and we start to go wait we need rain why do you rain? Every time every time that got a directing assignment before there was even a script you come to you say I need a crane Exactly, I don't even know what the fucking script says, but I'm gonna need a big ass credit. But so it's the lion producers job almost like a parent to be like, look, you used the dollar and you got your candy bar. You should have saved it and you could have gotten ice cream.

Yes. Right? You could have, you could have one big thing or two little things. Right. Right. And a lot of times it's negotiation like, you know, like, hey, you know, they're keeping you out of the money, but in terms of the money, it's negotiation like, hey, you know, they're keeping over the money, but in terms of the money, it's not just the camera gear, but how many crew, how many extras are you going to be able to afford? Are you going to be able to do any overtime?

All of that, as often as the relationship I often have with the line producers, they say, think of it like a Chinese food menu in that you're choosing from a myriad of things that you can have, but you can't exceed that budget. So if you do want a big ass crane, then maybe you can't have as many background at the wedding. It's so funny that you say that. I oftentimes, across my career, have literally made a Chinese menu for directors because you inevitably get to a point. And Bill and I used to have, you know, something back then it was it was like the thousand dollar deal which was once we had locked the budget, he was not allowed to bring me any problems that cost more than a thousand dollars. Like, I could figure it out, you know, if it was a thousand or under but you know you can't be

adding stuff once we're once we start rolling we started rolling now on back in the day We would do a lot of overtime which which now people don't really do anymore, right? I mean on your jobs now are people pretty much keeping it to 12 hours these days. It depends really I mean for the for the most part. Yes, but a lot has changed You know we did for a big chunk of that show a true single camera show Which is almost all shows have more than one camera rolling at a time. Now, so you can get more work done within the hours

you can get, you know, for those who, do people know the difference between single and multi? Like usually on a single camera show, you're getting one angle at a time, shooting one actor's close up, and then you turn around and get the other actor, and the more actors in a scene, you know, the more times you're turning.

And if you have multiple cameras, then you can get multiple shots. But on a show like Mixedish, you know, or, you know, American Housewife or any show that's got a family, you know, family show as opposed to community, you're up against kid hours. So those shows in particular

are held to a stricter standard of hours. I'm gonna be honest with you. I love it when kids are on the show now and you're working the show because you're not going past 12 hours. Dude, you might not even do eight hours that day. You know what I mean? I love it.

I did, I did Emergence this last year. It didn't get picked up ABC. Thank you. But you were great in it, Donald. By the way, you were great in that show. I think we should pour some out for Emergence. Rest in peace, Emergence. Rest in peace, thank you. But, um. You were great in it, Donald. By the way, you were great in that show. I think we should pour some out for Emergence, Rest In Peace, Emergence. Rest In Peace, Emergence.

But I remember we had two very young ladies on the show and they were in school and once they showed up to set, we had, the clock was ticking. We had eight hours to get them done or they would, they turned into a pumpkin. And so. Yes, they caught pumpkining. Yeah. And so I used to love that.

It would be like, are the kids working today? And they'd be like, yeah. And I'd be like, great. That means I'm done before, you know, I'm done before the sun goes down. It's when the kids weren't working that you were like, oh my God, I'm gonna be here forever. Right.

Well, Randall- Yeah, if you see kids on there, you can make a- Right, right. You can be like, I can make that eight o'clock movie tonight. Randall, you and I always got along so well. Sometimes the relationship between a director and a line producer can be contentious because the director feels like, oh, you're taking away, you're not working with me. You're not making it, you're not helping me realize all the things I want to do.

Of course, the line producer has a stressful job. You're like, dude, you're killing me. You're so over budget. What the hell are you talking about? But when the two are friends and they feel like, hey, let's work it out, then it never gets contentious. But of course, sometimes when people don't get along, the line producer and the director don't always like each other.

Well, I think that it has been, to the great benefit of my career in general, part of it is just, I think, the way that I like to work, is that the goal is to be symbiotic. Like you know, when people think that it's contentious it is contentious, but you know we're all rowing in the same direction. You want a great show. You want, in comedies in particular, you know like, I think about the episode, I know it's not the episode we're talking about today, but your episode when you go into the puddle and you see a manatee monster do you say sea monster it was not a sea monster Randall name Julian Julian

you said sea monster what was the sea monsters name? That's a perfect example of that script had so much in it. But that was the biggest joke in the show. And you know, we had to call the city and get dig alert. And it was the first time I got to use a jackhammer and we're like digging holes in the parking lot and creating a swimming pool that we're gonna have to fill in. But the question was, you know, is this one of the funniest things in the script? What are we gonna give up or combine so that we can keep that? And that trusting relationship, you know, with the actor, with the director, with the writers, you know, builds that thing that you're talking about. And Ron and Ronald, you're the kind of person that was like so on board, you'd be like,

oh my God, we have to figure it out. We have to figure out a way, I know. Yeah, because Randall, I think that gag, which involved building two different small swimming pools to code, because the city was not gonna let anyone not do it to code, was one of the most expensive gags in Scrubs history, as I recall.

Yes, it was. Yes, it was very expensive. That's you're right, Zach. That's a very important point. If you have a line producer who's game and it's like, I can figure this out. If you work with me, we can figure this out. You're going to get some of the best stuff. You know what I mean?

Of course, of course. And what's so weird about Randall was he wasn't, you know, some of these guys and gals are sitting in an office and they're rolling your eyes when you walk in. Randall was out there with the jackhammer being like, I can't believe we're building the toll. So Randall, this one is supersized. Let's talk about that. Very rare, most episodes thus far in the show

have been 22 minutes without commercials. This one is 28, which is a big leap to supersize, right? It was a big issue at the time, the show with the pizza clock as we called it. But the network was very contentious about this episode and they did not rerun it again in certainly not that season and I don't think for four years because being supersized and it's a it's a very thoughtful episode you know very emotional goes inside where are where

the characters are and I think at the time, you know, we were still in season one and they wanted it to just be, you know, more JD falling. Yeah, exactly. More JD running. They were like, what are you doing this weird documentary style interludes? I mean, where's JD running into a wall?

And you know, but it's a great episode. I just want to say, written by Gabrielle Allen and directed by Lawrence Trilling, who became one of our favorites early on. He then went on to do Pushing Daisies and Parenthood, and I just Googled now that he's on Goliath. But super talented guy. I think Lawrence Trilling and I did Felicity together.

You did. You did. Were you ever on Alias, Donald? No, I was never on alias. Okay, well, he also did alias. But yeah, he directed young Donald phase on and Felicity. He was a really great guy. Really fun, good director. And Gabby got I love her. Good team. Great team. And, and I just

thought there's a lot of style this so. So there became this convention, a few conventions, there's a lot of style to this. So there became this convention, a few conventions. There's the pizza clock thing. If you look down at the pizza guys, in case you didn't notice, the idea was that it was mimicking a clock. And so as the episode is cutting between that one night of Sarah and I in bed,

and then back to the few weeks that follow us trying to date, whenever it cuts back, the pizza's trying to look like a clock from that night. So there's that sort of gag, the timeline shakeup, and then there's these documentary style, shaky cam, grainy film, as though we're all being interviewed for a psychologist project

on why people become doctors, right? I think, okay. What, go ahead. That's not, I thought that was the next episode, but okay. No, that's my bed banter and beyond. That's some intercutting saronite and our big epic fuckfest, for lack of a better term. I gotta tell you something, man.

Nobody says that much. I missed that. Let's go back. Yeah. You said the word, and now I'm gonna, now we can talk about it, I guess. I miss those days. I miss the days when it was just sex all day,

you know, before kids, when you could just bone all day, then go out to dinner that night, and then bone some more. My wife and I, you know what? We gotta make an appointment now. And it sucks. Is it in your eye, Cal? Dude, I'll be like, you think it's a joke and a lot of standup comics have made this joke, but it's real.

You'll be like, how about Sex Thursday? Can we do Thursday? Stop. No, I can't do Thursday. I'm having my hair done. Right, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The kids got Zoom all day. I'm gonna be exhausted by eight o'clock.

There's no way. And Ozark all day. I'm going to be exhausted by eight o'clock. There's no way. And Ozark comes on. I got to watch Ozark. Okay. Well, Jason Bateman, Jason Bateman is stealing your sex night. Jason Bateman is fucking it up for me right now. Dude. I hear the show's good looking man.

I hear the show's great, but damn you, Jason Bateman. I just wish he would get through the show already. I just miss those days. I miss the days where it was like, and granted, I love my children and I love having them in my life, but I just miss the days of freaking waking up, boning, going to Hugo's to get breakfast or brunch, right? Brunch, whatever it is, coming back home and being like, well, what do you want to do?

Well, we haven't fucked in like five hours. We might as well fuck again. Perfect. Donald, I am sitting outside looking longingly at my blackout shutters and how we use them so much more. Right. Just like crank it down, black out the bedroom and do what you got to do. Right.

Them days is over. Them days is over. You guys are really doing a great ad for having children right now. No, you should do it. It's great. It's wonderful. As you both drink your white claw. Now Elliot has said in previous episodes that she's never had an orgasm and

she said that she doesn't like sex. So is JD the first person to not only bring her to orgasm, but show her the wondrous world of epic sex days? I'm sure you would like to think so. I think yes. I'm not JD, Dylan. I'm Zach Braff. But I think the character of JD probably was good in bed. Well, you know, in the beginning of it all, JD was kind of a sucker when he's like, he almost let her walk out of the house.

And she was obviously very much into JD. Well, I don't know, dude. I disagree. I was watching it with fresh eyes. And I was thinking, I couldn't read where she was. Was she like, hey, I should go and then, you know, you know what that's like back in the day. Dude, I hate that shit. I hate that shit. Why the test? Why I got to be tested for? How come you can't just be like, you know what, maybe this was a mistake. Was it a mistake

though? Or did we, you know what I mean? Like I remember saying to my wife when she was my girlfriend, like, you know, I don't know. I don't know if this is, if this is working out, you know what I mean? And her being like, you don't, this is, you know, wait a second. This is the best thing that's ever happened to you. What do you mean? You don't know if this is working out. Like that was real talk. The fact that JD almost had her out the door before she turned around and was like, yo, just say you want me to stay and stop being a sucker. Stop being a little punk about this. Just say you want me to stay and I'll stay and we can go have sex again. And then he's finally like, will you stay? She's like, yeah, you're going to pay for that though. Because I almost walked out.

Don't you remember back in the day when you weren't in such a long term relationship when something's new, and you're kind of insecure about it, you're like, did this person have as good of fun as I did? I don't want to be the one who puts myself out there and gets dissed. Like you're in a very vulnerable state. You're like, I kind of like this person. Do they like me? You know? Well, didn't JD, the character, just wasn't he in the friend zone a couple of episodes before that?

Yeah, they were they were friend zoned. Yeah, like maybe seven episodes before he gets friend zoned. And then he and then we got to go to break. We'll be right back with the legendary Randall Winston. and then we gotta go to break. We'll be right back with the legendary Randall Winston. It started with a backpack at the 1996 Centennial Olympic Games, a backpack that contained a bomb.

While the authorities focused on the wrong suspect, a serial bomber planned his next attacks, two abortion clinics, and a lesbian bar. But this isn't his story. It's a human story, one that I've become entangled with. I saw as soon as I turned the corner, basically someone bleeding out. The victims of these brutal attacks were left to pick up the pieces, forced to explore the gray areas between right and wrong, life and death.

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start listening. Randall Winston we're very excited. We're very excited. Randall's here. We're talking about sex. JD and Elliot have an epic, epic 24 hours of sex. And it seems that JD has found a way to bring Elliot all the way to the promised land because she seems to be really enjoying sex well the fact that they have it like six or seven times is ridiculous and she even brings up I'm gonna need a vagina transport yeah she says she's gonna need a vagina transport which is a very funny fantasy cutting to the guys running through the hole with a vagina in a box with a vagina in a box in a cooler

in the cooler Randall was that uh they should have done the song vagina in a box? In a cooler? In the cooler. Randall, was that a- They should have done the song, Vagina in a Box. Randall, was vagina transplant something that anyone was worried about getting through the sensors? Cause it seems pretty risque to have a vagina in a box.

Yes. I remember there being like some conversation about I can't remember whether it was a lot of conversation, but the great thing about scrubs was that there was always something else to point at like you know another red herring I was like, listen guys, it's just one vagina in a box. We're not gonna have vaginas in boxes every week. And the great thing about the working with the person, there was a woman, I can't remember if this was Sandy Christmas, it was this Sandy Christmas,

it was this very sweet woman who I used to have these conversations with. So I'd get on the phone and she'd be like, "'Now, Randall, I bite the vagina in the bar.'" And, you know, and then you later say, penis, you know, do we have to have all of that in the show? Yeah. And what's funny is they'll often give you a sheet

of all their objections and it's a negotiation. And then even when'll often give you, they'll often give you a sheet of all their objections and it's a negotiation. And then even when you get it through, they'll be like, okay, we are fine with the vagina in the box. Please do not show a vagina in a box. Like even shit, you're like, really guys? You had to write that on the paper. Like you think we were going to cut to a vagina for NBC in the box. Sometimes they say sometimes they say stuff and you're thinking oh damn you're way dirtier than I am. That is not what we meant. This is a true story. We had to go into VFX, visual effects, and adjust Donald Scrubs in a particular scene because we were seeing too much of a

bulge. Oh, Donald is how we do it. Dan, how about thunderous applause? Let's have some thunderous applause. Thunderous applause for my junk. And then Dan, if you wouldn't mind put up. I used to do a loma at the table reads. And most of my readers required me to just go, mm-hmm.

When ever Nurse Roberts couldn't be at the table read, Randall would play her. And his favorite part was doing her mm-hmms. Speaking of speaking of a Loma, holy cow. She's amazing in this episode. Very funny. Every one of her lines lands hard. You know what I mean? White boys. You mean it was a secret? All of that stuff.

Everything that she said in this episode, I laughed out loud. Now let's get into it right away. You know, the janitor sees Aloma and she sees him and she looks at him like, get the fuck out of my way. And Randall, Bill is still hanging onto his dream that the janitor was only seen by JD in season one. And we are, Donald and I are detectives

that are quickly proving him wrong in every other episode. Yes, yes. I never bought into that. He was a figment of JD's imagination. Right. It's Mr. Snuffle Luffagus. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and remember you have because there's some episodes later. I remember an episode I directed where he has a group of henchmen played by our grip team, you know, and they so they are all and you know with him and isn't his his side. He has two sidekicks Troy and Randall, right? Yeah, Randall. I remember Randall played by Martin played by Martin played by Martin who was also in Oz the

great and powerful with me and he was also in Pirates of the Caribbean. Yes, I love that. The Caribbean. The Caribbean. Let's talk about Coleco vision which comes up at 721. Did you have Colecovision either one of you? I did not. My friend had Colecovision and I remember Colecovision being so awesome because the video games looked exactly like they look in the arcade. So if you had Donkey Kong, it looked like Donkey Kong from the arcade. Yeah, I thought that was the same. And I had

Smurfs. Do you remember that game? I don't. I don't remember the Smurf game. Well, if you are interested in video games, please go on. I'm sure on YouTube they can play you the theme music from Smurfs on Colecovision and that jam was fire. Was it la la la la la la la la la la? That was the dope shit. La la la la la la la la la la la la. Yo, let's put it this way. If Jay-Z can make a song from Hard Knock Life, I'm surprised. Yes, you could. Right, right.

Dude, do that again and I'll kick in my beat box and we got a jam on halfway there. I love that. Five, six, seven, eight. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la. Dan, you're gonna have to line that up with some delay but we I think it's fire and I think we can beat Hard Knock Life. You you you added me that Donald on set used to do Transformers as a dude late night Neil Diamond Neil Diamond singing transformers

I thought I did it already, but if I haven't if you missed it do it transformers more than meets the eye You're going keep going the trans robots face their battles to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons. By the way, Neil Diamond is your best impersonation. You also do a pretty good... I don't know much, but I know I will love you. Well, you do a better version of Aaron Neville than I do.

Let me hear yours. I don't know. Mine's trash. I don't know much, but't know, I don't love you. Well, you do a better version of Aaron Neville than I do. I don't know. Mine's trash. I don't know much, but I know I love you. And that may be, all I need. Yeah, yours is way better than mine. Way better than mine. There you go, that's the extent of our impressions. Colecovision, great game system.

I felt like a baller because I had it. And you know, remember the control was was like it was like a long rectangle And then there was a little circle on the bottom yeah, not to be confused with Intellivision Which I didn't have or in television Wow was it in television. It was Colecovision Well, I guess I started with the Atari 2600. I remember that Everybody had that yeah, and then that was Colecovision. Go ahead Randall with anyone I feel like the guy with the gaming heads that you weigh in But this makes me sound a hundred years old I'm currently doing a

Puzzle during kovat that is all of the original video games Atari and like yeah, so it's I need that puzzle. It's a mismatch. I will say we got a van Gogh starry night and we are not even getting anywhere near to starting it. But I feel like if it was the old game consoles, we've had it done already. I'm sending it to you. There's an elf mentioned in this show.

I loved elf. I was a huge fan of Alf when I was a kid. Max Wright. What are you doing? Alf! The puppet from outer space who loved to eat cats. I remember being a little kid and the trailer teaser for Alf came on and I remember being a little kid, my first film critic going, that looks so stupid. Cut to me loving Alf, like having Alf stuffed animals. What was not to love about Alf? I visited the Alf set.

You did? I remember, yes. Now was it raised up so they could have a puppeteer? Yes, it was like, it wasn't at a real stage, it was at a warehouse in Culver City. As I recall, Max Wright, who played the father, who was an accomplished theater actor and Shakespeare theater actor and Shakespearean actor and genius actor all around fucking hated it I think that's part of the lore is that he absolutely hated doing a puppet show Now did you did you watch all the elves

We were religious else because there's episodes. I miss I mean, I'm not ready to do the rewatch podcast But there's a very special elf where I would I remember mostly is crying during elf with elf which visit the girl in the hospital. It was like, you know, tonight on a very special elf. Do you remember when they would like back in the day, for those of you who are too young, they when there was a sad like on scrubs, we had sad episodes all the time. But on old school sitcoms, they would always warn you like tonight on a very special silver spoons. The ricker will, the ricker will kill a deer. We recommend and then we go we recommend parents watch with their children. Do

you remember that? For sure. But on Scrubs, if it was sad, we just would play the theme song a little. For sure. But on Scrubs, if it was sad, we just would play abortion clinics and a lesbian bar. But this isn't his story. It's a human story. One that I've become entangled with. I saw as soon as I turned the corner

basically someone bleeding out. The victims of these brutal attacks were left to pick up the pieces. Forced to explore the gray areas between right and wrong, life and death. Their once ordinary lives, and mine, change forever. It kind of gave me a feeling of pending doom. And all the while, our country found itself facing down a long and ugly reckoning with

a growing threat. Far right, homegrown, religious terrorism. Listen to Flashpoint on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the summer of 2020, in the small mountain town of Idlewild, California, five women disappeared in the span of just a few months. Eventually, I found out what happened to the women. All except one. A woman named Lydia Abrams, known as Dea. Her friends and family ran through endless theories. Was she hurt hiking? Did she run away? Had she been kidnapped?

I'm Lucy Sherriff. I've been reporting this story for four years, and I've uncovered a tangled web of manipulation, estranged families, and greed. Everyone, it seems, has a different version of events. Hear the story on Where's Deer, my new podcast from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcasts. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. So there was Silver Spoons when the record killed a deer. There was different strokes when Dudley got molested by the bike shop owner.

Remember that? I do remember that. Everything happened to Dudley or Arnold. And then I don't know what happened on Alf, but if they made the announcement it must have been serious. Tonight. Tonight. Tonight on a very special episode of Alf, Alf learns to touch himself.

Oh boy. Oh boy. See, you can't handle it. I used to have an Alf stuffed animal and, well, never mind. Well, that made it sound like I fucked the doll. I didn't. I just, I just. It did sound like you were about to say you fucked the doll.

It sounded like you were about to say, yeah, I fucked the doll. Did Alf have a tail? I don't know. No, no, no, he did not. I don't think so. Well, can you please look up if Alf had a tail? Alf did not have a tail. You feel really confident about that. You didn't see. I'm pretty sure you didn't see Alf's ass that much.

OK, let's talk about how well Johnny does in this episode. Yeah, in the monologue section, everybody's great in the. Oh, well, what you, your face lit up. Alf does have a tail. I told you. Bullshit, Joel! Bullshit! I sent you the picture, hold on.

Donald, you fucking liar. I just don't remember Alf. Is it a long tail? Listen. No, it's like a dog's tail, and it, only because you can see him, like he's looking out the window in a single shot. Listen, but I want to see if the I barely remember episodes of scrubs.

How am I supposed to remember out? Oh, he does have a tail. So I have a memory. I think what I was trying to say with the animals, I used to pull out tail through his legs to make it look like it was Alves penis. Oh my gosh. All right. All right. So Johnny C is good in this episode. Yes. He's not only that before we do that, let's go back a little bit. Uh, I didn't know that Kelso's actual name was Kelso... Kelsonovich?

Kelsonovich. Kelsonovich, yeah. Well, I don't think that comes up again, but this is the first episode where he introduces his wife's name, Enid. Right. And I thought that was just very interesting that, you know, he changed his name to fit in to be, to sound more American. So instead of Kelsonovich, it then became Kelso. I think everybody did, including

Donald Faison and Judy and Sarah, everybody was great in these monologue sections. They were... Oh my God. It was kind of a cool... It's funny because that documentary style became very common in shows like The Office and Modern Family that were doing sort of the shaky cam documentary style. It's not a style we did on Scrubs, but because of this segment, I don't know why the interviewer was so hunky-jerky with the damn camera. I mean, put the fucking thing on a tripod and calm down. The interviewer was making his own shaky cam TV show. But I thought everyone, it seemed like the mandate was that they were not going to have cuts in them. They would all be takes and um yeah and i thought everyone did a really nice job in those scenes do you

recall if they prepared us for that because the fact that i knew my lines like that was very weird you surprised yourself i'm watching and i'm like they're gonna cut soon because there's no way i remember all of this we we talked about it a lot and we knew it was gonna be one take. If I remember correctly, those are half the monologues that we did. I mean, part of the reason why the episode is so long is because those chunks and I remember Johnny C. I feel like he was disappointed because there was another long take, you know, so even though this episode is, what do we say, 24, 28, 28, 28. I think the editor's cut was closer to 40.

Yeah. And there's a really cool section later on where, where Donald and Judy are side by side and they're still not cutting. So they were able to time out. I don't know. Was Judy in the room reading with you, Donald? Do you remember? No, that, that was a, they gave us earwigs, I think for that, for that, uh, I think for that because earwig for those who don't know is a tinier piece that goes

in your ear that you can't see the camera can't see. I remember rehearsing it with the voice track I think they recorded Judy first I could be wrong though I think they recorded Judy first and then then I went in after her to record. The timing of that was perfect because you had to stall, so you were thinking, and then you took a sip of your water. It totally looked natural, but it was well done by Larry Trilling. Trilling, man. That was one of the highlights in my notes that I wrote.

This was his first episode to direct for us. And we gave him a pretty, you know, you guys gave him a big Randall and. You and Bill gave him a pretty big episode to produce. I wonder if he was ever like, yo, what money do I get to make this go easier for me? You know what I mean? Like, I'm guessing he was told that it was going to be a long one because, um, right Randall or was that decided after the fact? Um, it was decided after the fact. We didn't know it was going to come out then, but we knew from timing the table read that we were up against it and that we didn't want to make

cuts in those, uh, you know, soliloquy pieces or, you know, directly to the camera. For some reason, I feel like production wise, there was just a lot of talk about the pizza clock like getting the right angle And how much beats it would take out and you know big we were it we were in that bedroom For so long which was a tight set. Yeah, and Sarah and I you know, we were friends And we really loved each other But that was a very bizarre thing to have that much fake sex all over one set for many days on end. Well, yeah, not just that, you guys were very much in each other's face.

I was gonna ask you, you guys made out a lot in this episode. Yeah. How awkward was that for you? I think it was, you know, you always hear actors talking about, oh, it's all very, you know, choreographed and it's not weird at all.

It is weird. Everyone's standing around. You're making out with your good friend. It was bizarre. I remember being, because also a lot of most times, she's like, okay, there's a quick makeout scene. It's a TV show. That's all it ever is.

This was like wrestling around and groping each other and for days., it was weird face to face and not only face to face, but not the Donald. You got to have been Naka, but Naka was the, we had a boom man named Kevin. What was his last name? Randall. Do you remember? I can't figure it out right now. Kevin, uh, also hires the whole crew, everybody.

So he should really know Kevin's last name. Um, but Kevin used to see that we all used to have been Naka. Tonya. Tonya also hires the whole crew, everybody, so he should really know Kevin's last name. But Kevin used to see that we all used to have banaka. This is like back in the day still that we had like spray the aerosol, banaka. And we made a joke like, oh, it'd be great because the boom mic's right over your head. We were like, it'd be great if there was a boom, if there was banaka on the boom, because then we can just reach up, pull the boom mic down and grab it off. And the next day we show up and he had Velcroed a bonaka to the end of the boom mic.

Not, not the mic itself, the stick and the pole. Kevin Santy. Kevin Santy. Thank you. And, and literally he wasn't just a joke. He kept it up there for like months and whenever you need a bonaka, you just reach up, grab the boom pole, pull it off, do a spray, Velcro it back and stick it up. I used to go crazy with the bonaka because I felt like maybe if I spray enough in my

mouth the aerosol and the freaking mint will get me high enough. When your weed was wearing off? So Donald, his weed had worn off and he was on set too long. He's like, let me try and get high off bonaka. I remember one day Randall came into the room. Randall, tell me if you remember this. And you were like, Donald, and we remember this. And you were like, Donald. And we were on set.

You were like, Donald, wake up. Do I need to splash cold water in your face or something? Wake your ass up. Would you hire something? Uh, yes. And I remember being like, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. But in my mind, I was like, they know.

They know. It's probably because you were taking too long to get to set. No. The only time I took a long time to get to set was when grand theft auto vice city came out. And I remember one time they were trying to get me to set and I was all my way out the door and Randall's pushing my door in as I'm pulling it. And I was like, hi.

And he was like, get up stairs. Randall, you had to be bad cop. I had to get the grip on grabbing people, steer them to set. I remember sending a PA to your house one time, Zach. Somebody had to like climb over the fence to get you to like, wait, yeah, that was a really bad moment. No, what happened was the pound. What had happened was the power went out.

The power went out in my, in in my on my street or my neighborhood. And so the alarms didn't go off. And also the phones didn't work. And so I woke up to a PA knocking on my window. And which is the worst site if you're an actor, it's like the most horrible feeling. And I remember getting to set really late and Bill looked at me and he's like, No, no, don't worry, we'll split the 50 grand. I think during scrubs, I had a real moment of peace about producing, which was I gave up on the idea of everything being

okay for more than five minutes at a time, because nothing's ever always okay. It's like, and, and, and, you just put down fires. Nobody comes to my door to be like, everything's great. You know, somebody took my candy. We don't have any film, you know, somebody's late. Did we ever run out of film? We came, we came close.

We used a lot of short ends one particular week because part of the reason that we were able to fly under the radar financially, and one of the reasons that that show was one of the last shows to be on film is because we shot on 16, we shot Super 16, not 35, so we cut our production costs by a lot, but we made a great print. I mean, we showed that show on a DGA in the DGA screening room and it held up.

So yeah, for those of you who don't know, this was one of the last shows still being shot on film, especially 16 millimeter film probably at the time, probably nothing is right now, I would guess. Unless it's like a big budget feature on Netflix or something. But most people don't do that anymore anyway. And it's one of the reasons why people always ask how come there's no blu ray and high resolution 16 by nine version of the show. It's because when we made it we didn't and we were done with it. No one anticipated all this streaming stuff. So it was never like up res to be 4k video right they didn't cut the film and then and then we do it

and some of the film that we used you can't even get anymore a lot of the flashback scenes I think I think you'll see it in season one are shot on something that was called reversal film which was like from the Vietnam War it could have this look of... Yeah, that's why they have a specific texture. In fact, there's clearly a different film stock being shot for these interview sequences because they're very grainy and have a different color sort of palette than the show itself. When did we switch over to chip then?

When did we switch over to digital? Did you do it in season 9? It would only be in season nine. I think it was before season nine, to be honest with you. I don't think so. I mean, because because it was talked about so much shows, because NBC had made this mandate that everybody was going digital. But then when they looked at our numbers, they were like, keep doing what you're doing. Like, I

think I think maybe in that season nine, we went digital, like, I honestly can't remember off the top of my head. I remember that. I remember that that was very interesting when you would see them changing mags or somebody getting the film ready for the day and having to put the film in a mag so that it could fit on the camera and reaching into this like bag. It looked like a bag is what it looked like. Well, it was a picture like a miniature camping tent

that would fit on a desktop. And it was blacked out so that they could put their hands in there and not expose the film while loading the camera magazines. Right. I used to be like, I remember when we switched over to, I guess it was season nine where we switched over to Chip. And I remember being like, this is the easiest thing in the world.

Why didn't we do this before? Like we could do takes for days and days and days. All I remember all my fuck ups. Every time I missed a line or forgot a line and everything like that, I remember being like, how much how much more room do we have on the mag before? Before you know what I mean? Before we're out and we have to and we have have on the mag before, you know what I mean, before we're out and we have to change the mag again?

Yeah, you'd have about 11 minutes on a 60 millimeter magazine and you'd be like trying to get it and be like, how much more fire we got before we roll out? I got it, I got it, I got it. Let's go, let's go, let's go. With digital, you can go forever now. You'd be like, don't cut, don't cut, we gotta cut,

we gotta cut, we only got like 19 feet. All right, fine, cut. When I say't cut, we gotta cut, we gotta cut, we only got like 19 feet. Alright fine, cut. When I say to Sarah, we're gonna need a stool sample, not for medical reasons, my robot needs food. I made that up, I'm proud to say, and Sarah cracked up at it. And it's so random and weird, but I love it. I gotta feed my robot. Pooh. Pooh. Your, I gotta feed my robot.

Oh, your robot eats poo, patient poo. patient poo for the robot comes down to poo. And I laughed out loud when Sarah is in 1704. Sarah's making fun of my laugh because she's like already over me. And she's like, Oh, my God, that is so funny. That she does a funny impression of you. Because I mean, that laugh has got a lot of genuine laughs with the silly JD laugh all through the season. Yeah, I feel like that's how every I think that's how every relationship should be. What you see is what you get. You know what I mean? But unfortunately, unfortunately, what you see, and what you get sometimes you think you want it and then eventually It makes you want to kill the person which it turns out to turns out to be with elliot and jd She loved the laugh in the beginning. Oh, I love it. So cute

And then at the end of the show She's like fuck that laugh, dude Laugh like that again one more time. I dare you It's like say what again say what again motherfucker say again one more time. I dare you Say what again? Say what one more time? I know I hear you isn't that so sad though when a relationship goes sour and all the things you Thought were so adorable you now just fucking hate. Yeah That was my life back in the day. Oh He's got such potential we have some guests here

Randall so we have guests that come on the show Randall. So we have a guest that come on the show, Randall. I know that you don't listen to the podcast. So Randall listens to the podcast. I don't think he does. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. Somebody was like, yo, they talked about you on the podcast the other day. Yeah, that means that Randall was told by someone

and he went and listened to one episode. Oh, they got a podcast? Oh, somebody's doing a podcast. Fake doctors, real friends. I was like, ooh, nice name. Hey, I got shout outs. All right, we're gonna go to a break and when we come back, we'll have our guests.

It started with a backpack at the 1996 Centennial Olympic Games, a backpack that contained a bomb. While the authorities focused on the wrong suspect, a serial bomber planned his next attacks. Two abortion clinics and a lesbian bar. But this isn't his story. It's a human story.

One that I've become entangled with. I saw as soon as I turned the corner, basically someone bleeding out. The victims of these brutal attacks were left to pick up the pieces, forced to explore the gray areas between right and wrong, life and death. Their once ordinary lives, and mine, changed forever. It kind of gave me a feeling of pending doom.

And all the while, our country found itself facing down a long and ugly reckoning with a growing threat. Far right, homegrown, religious terrorism. Listen to Flashpoint on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the summer of 2020, in the small mountain town of Idlewild, California, five women disappeared in the span of just a few months. Eventually I found out what happened to the women, all except one, a woman named Lydia Abrams, known as Dea. Her friends and family ran through

endless theories. Was she hurt hiking? Did she run away? Had she been kidnapped? I'm Lucy Sherriff. I've been reporting this story for four years and I've uncovered a tangled web of manipulation, estranged families and greed. Everyone, it seems, has a different version of events. Hear the story on Where's Dia? My new podcast from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcasts. Listen on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you

listen to podcasts. This could be the craziest podcast pairing ever. The governor of California, Gavin Newsom and Super Bowl champ, Marshawn, Beast Mode Lynch, are politikin'. What does politikin' even mean? There's bridge and gaps. With no politics. Joined by their friends and agent, Doug Hendrickson, it's gonna be a wild ride. We can change the world. Podcast by podcast. Listen to politikin' with Gavin Newsom, Marshawn Lynch, and Doug Hendrickson on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search PoliTikken and start listening. So Randall, when we do the commercial breaks and the song comes back, it doesn't have the mm-hmm.

A lot of our fans like to add their own mm-hmm. That's part of it. Oh, shit. Barbara and Robbie. Mm-hmm. That's part of it. Oh, sure. Barbara! Hi, Barbara. And Robbie! Barbara and Robbie are twins! Oh, my goodness.

One of you is a doctor! Oh, my god. Things are getting weird, you guys. Two different women have entered, and they appear to be identical twins in different parts of the world. Where are you guys calling from? I'm calling from UK. You're in calling from? I'm calling from UK.

You're in the UK? I'm calling from Pisa in Italy. And you're in Italy? Oh, wow. So you guys, are you a doctor? Yes, I am. Yes, I am, but I'm not working yet. OK.

I had some problems for coronavirus, which delayed some technical issues. OK. OK. OK. And then, Robbie, what about you? Are you a doctor too? No, no. I graduated in law last February.

So you've got a lawyer and a doctor. Wow, your parents must be very happy. Very proud. Yeah, and last time we saw each other was at the beginning of March when I brought Babi to the airport to take her flight to go to the UK and move there. Oh, so you've been apart for a long time. You must miss each other. Yes, a lot. That's why I also asked you to do this meeting with Bertha because I knew that

it was very important to her. It is important also for me, but she had a very rough time. Oh, well, we're here to cheer her up. I'm so glad you called in because not only do you have the legendary Donald Faison here, and he's always funny, you have Randall Winston, who was our line producer, but you may know him as Leonard, the security guard, and also he played Death. And, you know, we've gotten a lot of questions for death on our instagram pages so finally you can ask death any question you have oh that's wonderful thank you

i also played much mouth from uh yeah you did play much mouth from freaking the fat albert jump out of the gang yes i'm so you had three different parts randall you had that big ass You did play Munchmouth from freaking the Fat Albert Jump off. Fat Albert Gang, yes. You had three different parts, Randall. You had that big ass helmet on your head too. All right, so let's get into it. Go ahead, ladies. Ask a question. I would like to start because I am in a theater company as well. So sometimes we argue about the best ways to perform. You know, when you have to feel in character and you have to feel what your character is feeling in order to act.

So I was wondering whether sometimes you had some difficulties with that and to make a very strange scene. You couldn't really feel what JD or Turk or Seth or Leonard. Thank you for including him. I appreciate that. Robbie, thank you for including him. It's my pleasure. So if you had to find some strange way to perform, I thought about this question when I was listening to your podcast last week. And Donald said when he had to memorize the line, you need the surgical consult, you had to make a song about it.

So my question is not about memorizing things, it's more about like acting. The feeling, yeah. Let Leonard go first. When I strapped on the arm. Here's the thing. You'll work hard, you'll work so hard to try to feel everything. And that's what comes with being an actor.

You're going to work harder than you've ever worked in your life to try to feel everything. And that's what comes with being an actor. You're going to work hard harder than you've ever worked in your life to try to feel it. But when the camera rolls and you don't feel it, you better act the shit out of it. You know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, it still has to be made. So you're going to work your hardest to try and feel the emotion and find the emotion and pinpoint what it is that you know you'll make notes and you'll do all of that stuff. But there comes a time when you're doing it where all of that preparation and stuff isn't helping. You know what I mean? And so when it's not helping, it's time for you to act the shit out of it. And that's

just how it goes. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would say there's times when it's really just natural, and then there's times where it feels forced and you don't feel present. You can see the cameraman, and you can see the crew, and your stomach's growling because you're hungry, and you had an argument with someone in your family, and all these things that happen in any job,

and you're in your head, and you're distracted. And the trick with acting is to always be as present as possible. The good news about acting on film and television is you really only need to do it in spurts. Because you're trying to shine for your other actor, but also when the camera's on you, no matter what the shot is, when you're doing a play, you have to maintain that for two hours and seem real. But with film and TV acting, the real challenge is to get it in spurts enough

so that it will cut together and be believable. But yeah, it can be really challenging, especially when you're, there's so much distraction. There's phones ringing and there's a helicopter overhead and you're upset about something in your private life. It's a real challenge to do everything you can to be present in the moment. And when you can't be present, that's what acting is.

Then you fake it till you make it. Fake it till you make it. Now, Randall, when you were playing Leonard, didn't Leonard have a love interest, by the way? Oh yes, I Senior She a fellow security guard or no, no, she was she maybe she was a candy striper or something Oh Robbie knows she was an old in I like it. Yeah, Robbie take me to task Robbie. She was an intern. Oh, Robbie knows. She was an old intern. I like it. Yeah, Robbie. Take me to task, Robbie.

That was the I had to. Were you open mouth kissing her? That was specifically requested. Yes, that we. Was it by her or was it in the script? That part's a little foggy. I think it was a. But, you know, I think... So to Robbie's question, how did you maintain being president in the moment when you were

kissing the senior citizen? You know what, Robbie, I should have been listening. And I've been listening to her. Yeah, you were listening to her mouth. Okay, ladies, good question. Yes. Go ahead with another one. Donald left. He was so offended, good question. Yes. Go ahead with another one.

Donald left. He was so offended by that question he left. Okay, so my question is, we watched Scrabbs a lot of time. And the first time we watched it, we were just teenagers. And so we watched it in Italian. So I wondered, have you ever listened to yourself dubbed in other languages such as Italian or Spanish or Japanese? Yes. I hate how they dubbed me in Spanish and Italian and stuff like that. I never have

a deep voice. I'm always like, hey man, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm not Japanese, I'm your voice. I prefer your actual voice. I don't talk like that. You know what's funny is that in most countries, when you become a known actor, they pick the same actor to always do you. So if Donald's in one, if he's in Scrubs, and then he goes off to do another film that has nothing to do with Scrubs, it's usually the same actor being Donald. And I hate that, I hate that that one person is like, oh no, was he playing in this? Oh, don't worry about it. I did him on Scrubs.

I got this. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! So to Donald's dismay, that voice will always be his voice. Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! That pisses me off, man. Yeah, I have. That voice will always be his voice Pisses me off man Yeah, I have I've heard myself in almost So many voices traveling around especially when the show was on non-stop We travel around the world and you just turn on the TV and there you were speaking German. It was very funny

I remember then there was a thing where we had Germans in the show, Herman the German, right? With the balloon thing, wasn't that a thing? Yeah. And then I remember in Germany, they had to change where they were from because it made no sense that their language was different. Like, you know, so you know what? Like, think about it. If the show has a character that's speaking a language and all of a sudden the show's dubbed into that language, they then have to switch that person's language so it doesn't

make sense. I think we made them Belgian. Yes, I think you're right. Um, no, Randall, how do you feel as being dubbed as death and Leonard? As long as my fan base, all, all dozen of them. Did you ever hear, have you ever heard yourself dubbed in other languages? Randall? I have not. I, the good thing about dubbing death is that you don't see

his mouth move so it doesn't look bad. Exactly. I prefer subtitles but they don't they don't do that a lot of countries just dub it. I don't prefer subtitles. I do not like subtitles. You don't you'd rather be dubbed. Yeah I'm a I'm a very poor reader so having to read subtitles. Does your poor screen does your dyslexia um I've never asked you this before but does that make you very poor reader, so having to read subtitles and watch the screen. Does your dyslexia, I've never asked you this before, but does that make you less likely to watch subtitled films? No, you know, a good movie is a good movie no matter what, even with a learning disability. Even if it is written on the screen, my dyslexia isn't so bad that I can't Keep up right. I just never asked you

I wondered if you if you said ah fuck it's be a pain the ass for me to read these subtitles or not No, I prefer I would put though. I would prefer not to read I'd prefer to listen to a dubbed mix right got it Do you guys have another question? Oh, you're giving them three because they're separated sisters They're separated sisters. This is the first time they've talked to each other since March. Right. They're using us. They don't care about scrubs. They just want to get on our Zoom and talk to each other. I did a show back in a day called Free to Be a Family, and we did a space bridge to Russia. And this is like our space bridge between the UK and Italy. So was that like free to be you and me? Yeah, it was Free to Be You and Me with Marlon Thomas.

We're gonna have to sing some Free to Be You and Me songs one day. We're free to be, I can say it in Russian. Mogli bui buit, iya eti, eti iya mogli bui buit ad noi senyoi. Right? Wow. We're free to be you and me, you and me, we're free to be a family. I only know a little Russian from the Billy Joel Colept album when he played Russia.

And he said, Menyazavut, Billy Joel. And the crowd went crazy. I know that because I got to rap, we're free to be you and me with the Fat Boys. A lot of people don't remember the Fat Boys, but one of them was an amazing beatboxer, and he beatboxed while I rapped. Anyway, so if you guys have another question.

Please, please. Did you guys ever answer any calls on the Scrubs phone that were from out of the country? No, I never answered any. When we did this episode with Call Turk, and we had to- Cal Turk. Cal Turk, we had to get a real phone line, and Bill thought it would be hilarious.

That was a thing. I don't thought it would be hilarious. Uh, I don't know if it was you or Bill Randall, but said, you know, rather than do a five, five, five number, let's get a real number and have it all ring on a cell phone. And so the cell phone was in the scrubs production office and it would just ring all the time. And when you're randomly just walking through and you had a minute to kill, you just answer it and talk to fans because it would just ring nonstop, right? Yeah. Nonstop for like five years. And we kept the map and we'd put pins in it,

every time we would get calls. Yeah, that was cool. It was all over the world. All right, ladies, one last question, go ahead. That's the thing. I started to rewatch the show as well during this quarantine, because my boyfriend was with me

and he never watched Scrubs before. So I wanted to re-watch it with him. And we watched it on Amazon Prime. And I noticed the thing that you mentioned sometimes in the podcast that they changed a few songs. Especially one, it really pissed me off, the change list. It was the one in the second season when JD and Elliot

He's again and they start again and it's dreaming of you of the coral Yeah, and I was so waiting for that scene and when it arrived the song was a different one So I was so pissed off and we are too So I was so pissed off. I get it. We are too. Yeah, so I was wondering whether you have one song or two that you really, really like and you're attached to it in one scene of Scrubs and you would really be angry if someone changed it. Wow, good question. Well, you know, anytime Josh Raden did music on the show,

if that got taken off of the show, I would be very upset. One, because Josh is a very close buddy of mine. And two, his songs, it seems like, were made for the episodes of Scrubs. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if Zach and Josh had a thing where Zach would be like, yo, I need you to write a song about this. And he'd be like, I got it.

No, but I mean, the example that comes to mind, same thing with me is, Robbie, is Josh's song because, you know, we've told this on the podcast before, but when he wrote that song Winter that played at Brendan Fraser's character's funeral, it was the first song he'd ever written. Like he didn't have... Everyone was like, oh my God, this is amazing. Where's your album? He's like, album? This is the only song I've ever written. So that one was particularly special to all of us because Josh was our friend.

He started playing guitar late in life. He wasn't someone who played as a kid. And all of a sudden, with the thanks to Bill, putting him on the show, his career blew up. And he traveled, you know, when the world is not under lockdown, he travels all around the world. And you guys should see him when he comes to Italy, because you'll see, you'll recognize a lot of his music that was in Scrubs. Another person I want to just mention was Colin Hay, who was really special to the show. And we're trying to get, Randall, I need your help, by the way way the fans are all listening yes I need to get Collins information because we'd like to have him on for the episode he was on in season two okay I can get you whatever I had is my last contact but Colin was a real friend of the show and

fun and funny and had a good sense of humor about himself there was a song I think it's in this season the Christmas Christmas episode in Donald, you are running, and we play Sinner Man. That song feels super powerful in the episode. And we were all disappointed when songs got changed out, particularly in those first couple seasons, because we were sort of like the bastard stepchild over there, and like always held to a very strict low budget number.

We licensed a lot of songs not for forever, you know. When you license a song, they have something called in perpetuity and all of the media that is now known or yet to be figured out. And you can keep the song in the show. So, there's one and two, the music wasn't licensed that way. So we had to make some of those decisions about which baby to kill. Oh, but Randall, I always assumed it was that I didn't know what you're implying is that as the seasons go on, you then did start doing contracts that would cover streaming, but no one knew what streaming was at the time.

Exactly. Exactly. So like the first couple of seasons, the first couple of seasons, if the licensing has run out and they, and they didn't re renegotiate or sign on to continue the licensing, the network automatically just changed the song. Yeah. I mean, I actually had to sit with a music editor and music licensing for like a week or so after the seasons were over in the summertime to figure out like what songs were.

Oh, I always wondered who was putting these songs on. We've talked about that on the podcast that you don't listen to, but we always wondered what intern somewhere is choosing these like second best songs. It was an exercise in killing babies. Like everything was great, but they're like, like you absolutely cannot have all of this, you know, what do you want to save right you're

not gonna have center man forever. All right, ladies, we have to move on because death has to take his kids swimming and but thank you I'm sorry that you I feel sad that your two sisters that are separated. That's horrible. Is there anything you want to say to each other? Yeah, is there anything you want to say to each other while everyone's listening?

It's a free call. Thank you very much. We actually rehearsed it before using the live. Can we take a picture with you? Yes, of course. Yeah, let me just get fresh for you. Let me get fresh. Here we go.

Yeah. Thank you. No doubt. Thank you. Thank you, ladies, so much. Thank you. Be safe. Thank you so much.

Be well. You too. Be safe. 1909 in the bowling alley, two people on the left side of the screen spiked the lens, looked directly into the camera. I'm not sure if they- Oh my God, the bowling alley. Is

that not the day when our prop man got stuck under the ball return? Yes it is. He went down to retrieve the ball. Was that a prop man? He reached in, it was proper set dressing. Or Patrick. Might have been Patrick Bolton. No it wasn't Patrick. It wasn't Patrick. It was somebody who we laughed at much longer before we helped him. It was a, the thing came down on him and we thought it was hilarious. It was like a cartoon. You saw his legs kicking around and then suddenly somebody was like, oh my God.

We better go pick him up. We should probably get him out of there. Yes. I remember. I remember. He wasn't with us very much longer after that either. He was not. He was not.

Soon after he hid Rowdy in the ceiling. He went to that guy. No, that guy went to Jimmy Kimmel. Ah. Okay. So anyway, two people at the bowling alley look right in the lens if you're interested in your new hobby of finding people who spike the lens. Donald, you say, my baby knows how to knock him down.

That was funny. Yes. My baby does know how to knock him down. That was funny. My baby does know how to knock him down. That was a lot of fun. I don't, okay, like most episodes we've watched so far, when watching this, I didn't remember any of it. And I thought that was the cutest thing. I thought Turk and Carla was so cute and so on point for the joke when JD's like, you know,

couples go through this. This is what happens, nameames show me a happy couple. And then right away you see Turk and Carla enjoying themselves. Yeah. I think that was wonderful. And they're so sweet together. I mean, you just love them.

And then especially, of course, when you cut to the documentary footage thing and they're, you know, and they're being so adorable and both saying how much they love each other. No, and you're rooting for them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And not necessarily for Elliot and JD in this episode.

Even though it starts off where you're rooting for them, you can tell once it gets to the bad times, you're like, wow, these guys really aren't good for each other. It went sour so quick, though. Very, well, you only have a half an hour to tell the story. No, I'm saying like in the world of the show, dated for like two weeks and then they were like this isn't working I was but I think that was a decision by bill because he wanted you know, he didn't want to have that protracted

Will they will they won't they the friends thing, you know, but then he ended up doing it anyway Yes, well, but that's because it was well even's the thing. Well, even at the end, right. But even at the end of the episode, you say, she, you know, the, the therapy, do I think it'll work? Yeah, I do. And JD's right. JD's right. It does work.

It just doesn't work at that moment in time. Yeah. In the long run, in the, in the grand scheme of things, these two are meant to be together. I'm so sad though. I was sad watching it, that the two people who love each other who can't, I'm just a sucker for unrequited love

and love that cannot be. And here's two people that we want to be together, but they can't. But that's when Harry met Sally, like you said. That's when Harry met Sally all over again. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, that's such a...

One of my favorite... That's, first of all, one of my favorite movies, Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan. But that story is great, you know? It reminds me of a Fiona Apple lyric when she says, Only kisses on the cheek from now on. And in a little while, we'll only have to wave. No, no, not baby anymore. If I need you, I'll just use your simple name.

Only kisses on the cheek from now on, and in a little while, we'll only have to wave. That's so fucked up. They only have to wave. Hey, how you doing? Hey. I remember breaking up with someone and then going to give them a kiss and they gave me the cheek and being like, yeah, that's probably what I should. We should probably kiss on the cheek from now on.

Oh. yeah. And now I just wave. The last thing I want to say is that I liked how Judy, a, her delivery and also the writing when she ends the documentary section, she says, he seems to like who I am. And I just thought that was so sweet. Like, you know, all bullshit aside, it seems like he genuinely likes who I genuinely am. And I just thought that was really pretty. Yeah, man.

Randall, you've been a phenomenal guest. Thank you for having me. I feel like we're one step away from getting in your car with you. So we wanna let you go. We should, you just promised us you'll come back and do another one. Will you come back, Randall?

I feel like you're gonna be a fan favorite. Cause look. I would delight in that. Randall, do you use a washcloth in the shower? Yes. Randall's black, dude. I'm trying to tell you this. I'm trying to tell you this. All black people use washcloths.

How else can you get clean? Oh, god. Randall, we love you. You can count us into our theme song. Thank you, everybody, for listening to Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Randall, count us in. You can count us into our theme song. Thank you everybody for listening to Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Randall, count us in. Three, two, one. No, he doesn't listen to podcasts.

He doesn't watch the show. He doesn't listen to the podcast. The motherfucker doesn't listen to the podcast. He doesn't listen to the podcast. He doesn't listen to the podcast. He's just been outed. He's just been outed. He's just been outed, you guys.

This fucking guy. He doesn't listen to the podcast. Five, six, seven, eight. He's got stories about a show we made, about a bunch of dogs and nurses, and a janitor who loved to hate. I said, he's got stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our, spurs we watch show with Zach around hosting the Centennial Olympic Games.

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