Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 2023: My Gynecologist With Dr. Jen Gunter

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

On this week's episode, we've invited the author of the Vagina Bible and the Menopause Manifesto, Dr. Jen Gunter, to answer all our vagina-related questions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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bad boys. Something's going on with Apple because no hard drive works on any of my computers now. In the past six days when they announced that the new phone was coming out, shit has been fucking up. My external hard drive, I can't connect

it anymore. And all of a sudden, this new update came out today. And I'm just saying. So are you saying there's a conspiracy, Donald, to make all of your shit not work? Is Tim Cook behind this, Donald? I don't know if Tim Cook is behind this, but I will say this. My wife can't connect to a hard drive all of a sudden. Like, I don't know if everybody else is having this problem.

Am I on my own here? No, I think this might be what's called an anecdotal experience, Donald. You are having a problem, and you have, because you also enjoy the cannabis, you think the world is having the same problem. I'm asking a question right now. Is anyone else having problems with their computer do you want me to get tim cook on the phone because i do a tim cook i do a tim cook impression i do a tim cook i do a tim i'm calling him now hold on it's similar to the other impression i do

go ahead ask hold up Hello, Donald. This is Tim Cook. Tim, how'd you know it was me? Because I saw your face come up on my phone. What the fuck is going on with the computers right now, Tim? What's going on? Donald, that's just you. Everybody else is fine.

Really? I find that hard to believe Daniel was having a technical difficulty right before we started. Daniel is a loyal customer. He would never besperch my name. Tim. All right.

That's all I got. I can only do that impression. Send the new 15. That's all I got to say. There we go. You don't want that new phone. I saw online there's no difference between it. Except for, I mean, all the updates.

What's different? All the updates came through on the 14. Look at the tech wizard saying there's nothing different about it. No, all the updates came through on the 14 also, though. Yeah, on the 14? Yeah, if you have a 14 and that new download came through, all the things that are on the 15 pretty much, except for the hardware, all of the software you can now run on your 14 so like you're talking about ios 17 yeah so like computer to compute uh

phone to phone now that exists on your iphone oh that's cool yeah i like the thing about being able to send a video voicemail i like that yeah that now exists on your iphone as well i know but i haven't updated because everyone said not everyone I'm doing what you did an anecdotal incident occurred and someone told me don't update it's buggy that's that's my mantra for the first like couple weeks of any big Apple upgrade it's like new iOS like I'm gonna wait two weeks yeah because they'll release how about this how about fuck y'all for not bestowing this information on me? I feel like Joelle's going through the same shit that I'm going through right now, and she is not happy about it. Weigh in, Joelle.

Joelle is shaking her head and eating. Joelle, what's happening? I'm so sorry, Joelle. I'll sneak you a snack. Joelle, please don't eat during the program. The listeners tune in from all over the world to hear your lovely voice. No, you muckbang all you want. Muckbang all you want. Do not. Joelle, this is not a muckbang podcast. I covered the mic.

I chewed away from the mic. Hopefully no one heard me. You're doing great. I'll cut it out. No, thieving happened, and now I'm a little bummed. I have not done the Apple update because my phone wasn't plugged in last night. I will turn off the automatic updates

so as to avoid any bugginess. I saw this meme that was funny it was like how come every time there's an update apple tells you like we're gonna do an update tonight and then you wake up and it's like we couldn't do it it's like what did i sleep wrong and i found that very relatable because every time it tells me it's gonna do an update it's like couldn't do it bud your wife told me uh something on facetime today you might want to share with the audience it's like couldn't do it bud your wife told me uh something on facetime today you might want to share with the audience it's way more interesting than this she told she told zach

that she's trying to give quality over quantity right i got on a facetime today and they were all cuddled up like they like basically like they must have been post-coital. Like they were closed off. No, no, no. We were about to do it. Oh yeah. Their vibe was like, you know what? I don't know if you've ever

FaceTimed a couple, but where the energy is coming through the FaceTime, like these two either just banged or they're about to bang because the vibe was palpable. Casey,

and Casey kind of cuddled up into his arm. I was like, oh shit. And then she goes, I'm trying to turn, she goes, I'm trying to turn. She goes, I'm trying to make him into quality over quantity. Yeah.

Look. So we go bang. And afterwards, she goes, I got to be honest with you. I did a little bit more than I wanted to. What do you mean? Too much quality. Word. Too much quality.

Too much. She's like, ah. Word. She gave so much quality that she said, next time you're not going to get that level of quality. She was like, I might have gone a little overboard today. Wow. Don't get used to what you just got.

Oh, I see. So what you just got. Her quality went so high that she was like, don't think this is going to be the standard of the quality. Right, this isn't the standard of quality. That was some super duper special quality you just got just now. That's hilarious. Listen, I love that you guys are married. How many years now?

Let me see if she's still here. No, no, no. We've got such a great guest for this. We have Dr. Vagina. I know, and my wife has such a great vagina. Let me go get her. Oh, my God. Okay.

All right, hold on. All right. All right, play the song. go get her. Oh my God. Okay. All right. All right. Play the song. Play the song. Here she comes. Casey, come down here. I don't know nothing

about raising these fools. So tell me what to do. I don't know nothing about raising these kids. And that's what it is. Donald told the audience that, um, that... Did you play the song, Daniel? Yeah, it has been played. Donald, Donald told the audience that Did you play the song, Donald?

Yeah, it has been played. Donald told the audience that y'all had a session today and that you said you were going to give quality over quantity and then you said you may have given too high a quality and you had regrets about the level of quality that you gave because it was too good.

It was so good that I can't even walk through the house. Guys, I don't know what to do about this. I think your next guest needs to be like a sex therapist or something. We have a vagina gynecologist specialist. What? We have a gynecologist. The lady who wrote the vagina Bible.

Literally. We have a gynecologist on wrote the vagina bible literally i we have a gynecologist on today about sex stuff yeah i mean well what is she gonna tell me about a gynecologist i have do y'all know what a gynecologist is yes i'm very familiar i'm a i'm a fake doctor you realize no i think they i think the gynecologist might educate donald and i on things that that women wish men knew. That's what our goal is. Oh, okay.

Well, you know what I think you should talk to? Is it a woman? Yeah. Talk to her about? About. About the woman in her mid-40s going through, like, changes and stuff. Like, that's one thing that Donald and I, he doesn't seem to wrap his head around is that things are going on right now with me that are a little different and i don't necessarily feel

like fucking 24 7 you know that's a good question for her yeah like i think she needs to like explain to maybe not all of y'all just to. Well, do you want her to have an intervention with Donald? I think so. I think so. I mean, I know my vagina. So what other questions? This is actually helpful. What other questions do you, we'll ask her about women and their changes in their 40s.

What other questions do you think we should ask her that women wish men knew? Oh, God. We could be here all day. Well, we're going to be here for an hour so we have time go ahead what do you wish i'm trying to think i feel like you'll have put me on well sexually is there anything that like obviously you and your partner where the g-spot is oh my god sexually you and your partner obviously uh have a have it figured out but is there anything like as you were growing up or as you were as you were hooking up as a young woman that you wish men got and understood

better. Oh God. I wish I understood better that I don't, that it's more, it's just as much me as him. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think back to when I was having sex when I was younger and I thought,

oh my God, this is good. I'm totally getting off. And no, wasn't, wasn't at all. I loved it and I enjoyed it, but I didn't realize, oh, like I can actually take myself there and do this myself with my mind, you know? All right, well, you think about it.

We got to let her in because she's in the waiting room. But thank you, Casey. And thank you for all this information. All right. Well, you think about it. We got to let her in because she's in the waiting room. But thank you, Casey. And thank you for all this information. Thank you. Bye, guys. Bye. Play the song, Daniel. Play the song.

Casey, come down here. I don't know nothing about raising these fools. So tell me what to do. I don't know nothing about raising these kids. And that's what it is. Put me on the spot. Ain't nobody put you on no damn spot, woman. I know everything about my vagina. I know what I said.

Do you need a pen and paper? I need a pen and paper. That is hilarious. Okay, Donald Johnson. Five. Donald, count to ten. Five, six, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love to hate. I said here's some stories that we all should know.

So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Thunderous applause. Thunderous applause, Donald. Dr. Jen Gunter is in the house. Welcome, Dr. Gunter. Thank you so much. And we're about to talk about vaginas! And I'm excited.

Dr. Gunter, we've been really looking forward to having you on the show. We had a urologist on and he answered lots of male questions. And now we wanted to have a gynecologist on to answer some female questions for us. Thank you so much for having me. You wrote a book called The Vagina Bible. Is that correct? I did. Now, we just thought,

we asked our amazing producer, Joelle Monique, we want to educate our audience of both sexes, of any sex, on things they might not know. And Donald and I don't know a lot. So we are fake doctors, not real doctors. But we just thought it would be great to have you on and answer questions that we have, that Daniel might even have,

Joelle might have. Donald's wife just gave us some questions to ask. And we just feel really lucky to have you. Oh, well, my pleasure. I'm here for all of your vaginal and vulvar needs. This is the best day ever in the history. Okay. So Dr. Gunter, I am one who loves to have sex with his wife. I want to tread lightly here because I want to continue to enjoy having sex with my wife. Yeah. So I am of that who loves an abundance of it. And she is trying to keep up,

but I am having, she's having trouble keeping up. Let's put it that way with my needs, desires, I should say. And she was on right before you came in Dr. Gunter. And she said something, she alluded to something of like i'm in my mid-40s i'm going through some changes i'm

paraphrasing and i don't basically is so in so many words saying i don't have the same libido that my husband has and you know so i guess we're wondering if you have any advice on couples that are in that situation yeah so there are definitely so people can have times where they have kind of high spontaneous sexual desire and they can have a lower spontaneous sexual desire. So one thing I always remind people about because a lot of people don't know this is if you don't have a spontaneous desire but it kicks in after an appropriate situation presents itself, then that's called receptive desire. And that's actually normal. So it's important for people to understand what normal is. A great book to learn more about that is called Better Sex Through Mindfulness by Dr. Lori Brotto. She's one of the world experts on the subject. So I would, I always recommend that book. And the other thing to think about

when someone is in their 40s is are they having any changes related to the menopause transition? And so sometimes there are physical changes that can make sex more uncomfortable. And if that's happening, we want to correct those because if it hurts, you might also be less inclined to want to do it.

I just think it's the amount. Like when we were younger, we did before we got married. Oh my God. It was like rabbits. When we were trying to have a baby, it was all the time. You know what I mean? And now that we are, you know, I don't know if she's going through menopause, but I think it's like, was it poly when you're like, well, people call it perimenopause, you know, kind of colloqu's what it is. You know, kind of colloquially. But I would just say that it's something, you know, also too, when people have a libido mismatch, it's a good idea to talk with a sex therapist to kind of figure out, you know, are there, you know, is there something that you can kind of come to a middle ground, you

know, that type of thing. So, you know, what's... That's, wait, talk more on that because I think one of the things Donald's talking about, and this has been the case just from loving them and being their friend for so long. Donald does happen to be a man with a very strong libido, especially he's about to be 50 and he's got the libido of a 20 year old and his wife, uh, as, as she's admitted hers has, has gone down. So how does a sex therapist help a couple in that position? By the way, I'm sure there's men who have a lower libidos than their wives who are listening. So how does a sex therapist help a couple in that position? By the way, I'm sure there's men who have lower libidos than their wives who are listening. So how does that

work? What can they do for a couple like that who's trying to navigate this? Well, I think it would depend on a lot of different things. And I have to say, I'm not a sex therapist. So I would actually refer someone to that, you know, to someone to have that discussion. Joel, book a sex therapist, please. So that would be one, you know, one way to look at it. Another way would be to, you know, to someone to have that discussion. Well, book a sex therapist. So, so that would be one, you know, one way to look at it. Another way would be to, you know, really find out, you know, what, is this a spontaneous desire issue or, you know, if she still has receptive desire, then that's actually not abnormal.

So sometimes it's education about what might be going on. It's definitely receptive. Like if I do something that is, you know, helpful out of nowhere, it could sometimes be as simple as that. And then out of nowhere, she's like, you know, I don't know, man. I guess sometimes that's a turn on for her. When it comes to things around the house, I've never in my life, like my parents, I used to get grounded all the time because I just never did chores and stuff like that. So when I do do things like that around the house, oh my God, it pays. Okay. So right there, we've learned something that maybe you could do to change the situation, right? Yeah. But I don't like doing that stuff.

Well, if you see the sex and having to freaking clean. Okay. So I think we've identified a bit of a problem perhaps right here. So if I were in a situation where I was doing the bulk of the work around the house, I probably wouldn't want to have sex with my partner as much either because I might have some resentment. Now, everybody's different. Maybe that's not going to affect everybody. I don't think you know what you're talking about, Donald.

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, but Donald, what is so clear, and you have proven evidence that your wife gets lit up by you helping around the house. So today I made breakfast for the kids before school. Yeah. Okay. So maybe you could think about doing that every day.

Maybe just think about it participating for the joy of participating in your family unit. I do enjoy participating in my family unit. Actually, more than sex. Actually, I enjoy my family more than sex, to be honest with you. So that might be something to tell your wife. Yeah. She knows that. Okay.

you. So that might be something to tell your wife. Yeah, she knows that, you know, she, you know, and it's part of this is part of this is us being a little facetious and, but part of this is an actual issue that we do go through. Well, she was just in here saying, when we told her that we had the doctor on, she said, you better get a pen and paper. So I, you know, it sounds like, you know, I, again, I'm not a sex therapist, but I would say that talking about it is good. If you really feel there's a mismatch, there are professionals who maybe can help. Some education, so books, great. You know, another great book is Come As You Are. That's by Emily Nagowski.

I hope I didn't say her. Which way is come spelled in that title, doctor? The way one would normally spell it in polite company, C-O-M-E. If I had written that book, I would have done a pun on the word, Doctor. Well, I think it's implied, but it's great. It's a wonderful double entendre. Oh, so you're saying the joke is better if the double entendre is better if you don't hit it on the head? That's something I've always had to wrestle with.

I got it. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes subtlety works really well. Let me write that down as a comedy writer, Doctor. Hold on it. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes subtlety works really well. Let me write that down as a comedy writer, Dr. Hold on. Subtlety. Subtlety. Note. Note to self.

Yes. Well, you know, when you're talking to people in vulnerable situations as a doctor, you know, you have to kind of sometimes pull your punches a little bit. Yeah. I got it. I got it. I can say for both men and women, but I know you're a gynecologist who specializes in women. Are there anything that does legitimately increase libido? You see all of these things from the male point of view, these herbs and blah, blah, blah, and of course, a zillion different

things that are suggested. But do you find as a gynecologist for women who may be saying, gosh, my libido has gotten lower, is there something they can do? So actually the most studied therapy focusing on the moment, really doing sort of sensate focusing exercises, focusing on how you feel, enhancing the pleasure experience that way. So mindfulness, cognitive behavioral therapy, those things tend to be actually the most effective and they're the most well-studied. There also are medications. We only recommend them when we've tried other things and to make sure that there aren't other issues in relationships, right? So for example, if you don't really

like your partner, there's no amount of any medication that's actually going to fix that, right? Or if your partner isn't very good in bed, right? So that also happens. What are you trying to say, doc? I'm not trying to say anything. Okay, I'm just checking. Just putting it out. No, I think that's a good point. No, what I'm inferring from what you're saying is that both partners, but we're talking about the woman in this situation, might not know, might not be able to see, oh, the problem is not your body.

The problem is that you're not turned on. You have resentment towards the person. That's what the problem is not your body. The problem is that you're not turned on. You have resentment towards the person. That's what the problem is, you know? Or you're not doing it the way I like it. Right. So think about if you were given the same meal every night for 20 years. You might like not look forward to dinner

so much anymore, right? So that for some people, that might be fine to have dinner every night. But if you, to have the same dinner every night, but if you get the same dinner every single night, you know, over time, you might like be like, well, why don't I even get asked what I want to have for dinner? Right. How come I don't get to be involved in the meal prep? So, again, it's like about communication. Also, you know, people's when people are first dating, they tend to have higher libidos because you've got – it's excitement and it's new, right? And then things kind of settle down.

People are also given a lot of, I think, false messages about what's normal and what's not. I mean, if you watch most movies, focus on the male experience and the female experience is like, oh, my God, wow, after three seconds. And that is like not true for anyone ever probably. So you have to think about all of those things. And sometimes, you know, as people, if they have, you know, family commitments, you're up all night with kids, you have financial pressures. So we accumulate those things over our lives that might also, you know, kind of weigh on libido as well. So what I'm saying is you kind of have to step back and take more of a holistic approach and sort of think about this kind of in the context of your life.

And if there aren't these other life things that might be contributing, if there aren't partner things that are contributing, that for some people, then there are some medications that can sometimes be helpful, but they're not as effective as people think. It's not like they're making you have sex every single night. You know, for some of them, we're talking about one extra episode of sex a month or maybe two extra episodes of sex a month, right? Now, also, these medications are studied in the context of people who are generally having sex at least somewhat frequently. And then if we see people who haven't had sex in a relationship for six months or a year, which we sometimes see, how well do those medications work for those people? And we don't really know. So I guess my answer is, is a very long way of saying it's complicated and you have to consider a lot of factors. Yeah. I have a hard time understanding. What do you mean you don't want to do it? You know what

I mean? I don't understand. How can you not feel the way I feel? But that's me as a male, I think. I think that's my own ego and I think that's my own naivete falling into it. You know what I mean? I don't know. I feel like in relationships, somebody is always going to be the one that has way more libido than the other and it fluctuates, you know what I mean? Maybe. I mean, I think it's different for lots of people. And I would actually push back and say some men actually have more of a receptive libido,

that they want to be in a situation where, you know, that they feel more maybe desired or that they need to be in that receptive type of situation. And so I think when we use sort of patriarchal norms, for example, we can dismiss lots of people at both ends of the spectrum. I won't do that again. Thank you. But I think it's also really good for someone like yourself to say, hey, maybe I should read one of those books that's aimed at people who have maybe desire issues so I could learn more about what it's like on the other end.

Because that might also be insightful. It seems like the most important thing that you're saying is the communication aspect of it. Because these are sometimes very uncomfortable topics for couples. And they don't want to talk about it. It's like they just sweep it under the rug. about it. It's like they just sweep it under the rug. Well, what I'd like to say is I have definitely noticed that people have an easier time having sex than talking about sex, which I think says a lot about our culture. And I mean, if you think about even just saying like the words vagina or penis or vulva or clitoris, often that makes people think twice or makes them giggle. And why

should that be any different than saying the word elbow or knee, right? You know, so I think that a lot of it is related to sort of our sort of puritanical sort of threads that run through society, leftover sort of, you know, damage from the Victorians, you know, all these types of things, evangelicalism, there's all these different threads, I think, that create this, as well as the historical power imbalance between women and men. And so talking about it is really good. Talking about it outside of the bedroom, so you're not kind of weaponizing the bed, is also good. You know, because, you know, nobody wants to hear, I think after you've had sex, what

it should have been like, or what you would have preferred. Right. So, you know, some things like that. And, and I always say, look, we have professionals for a reason. There's sex therapists, there's couples counselors, there's marriage therapists. And, you know, people also, I think it also overlaps with our, our, our sort of cultural looking down on seeking care for mental health issues as well, right? So, which is terrible.

Like, if you have a problem, why shouldn't you go talk to an expert? That doesn't, you know, if my car is not working, I'm going to go to someone who can fix it. If I'm having an issue with a relationship, why shouldn't I talk to someone who can help me with that? It doesn't mean that you're getting divorced. It doesn't mean that things are terrible. It means, hey, we want things to be better. Isn't that a good thing? Yeah, that's so well said. I think communication is everything because like you said, people don't, this like gets uncomfortable. Even if it's your partner, your wife, you just, you don't want to say the wrong thing. You don't want to upset them. You don't. And if it's your

own insecurity about your, whatever, whatever you're feeling, you like, don't want to upset them. You don't. And if it's your own insecurity about your whatever you're feeling, you might not feel good about sharing it. So it becomes very cringy for people, I think. Yeah. I mean, I see a lot of women in their 40s, 50s, and 60s who want to have a lot of sex. And you know what? Their partners, their male partners have erectile dysfunction and they won't go see the doctor. If you're listening and you're suffering from erectile dysfunction, please, as your fake doctor, please go see someone because that's something that's so easily correctable. There's literally a mint now that I've seen advertised that has Viagra and or Cialis.

I don't know the combination in it. So you can be out on a date with someone and you feel it's going there, you can pop a mint. So the idea that there's men out there who aren't living their full sexual selves because of having erectile dysfunction, that seems to me like something that's so easily, amongst all these problems, that's one of the easier ones to, to solve because of this, these medicines that have changed the world. It could also mean that you have an underlying condition as well. And of course I'm saying, go to the doctor. I'm not saying just pop a mint. I'm saying, go see your doctor and talk about it. Yeah. So I just think it's important that, you know, that we do see, we see it on both ends. And so, uh, you know, and then I'll say to my

patient, well, have you talked with your, you know, partner about like going to the doctor about erectile dysfunction? And they'll say, oh, I could never bring that up. Or I tried to bring it up and he shut me down. So I think that, you know, we see it on both ends. And I think that as, you know, as Zach just said, it's all about communication. And I always think of sex as the ultimate form of communication, right? It's a form of communication. You're communicating think of sex as the ultimate form of communication, right? It's a form of communication. You're communicating pleasure and pleasuring and pleasure. And so learning how to talk about it is, I think, a great way to also enhance your sexual experience for,

you know, for a lot of people. It might not be for some, but, you know, just to think about that as also a sexual aid. And also communicate what you like. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you didn't tell somebody what you also communicate what you like. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you didn't tell somebody what you, you know, again, getting back to the dinner analogy, right? Like if you ate the same thing every night and you pretended you liked it and you're a vegetarian and you were served meat every night, you might be like, oh, I'm not really looking forward to dinner.

And how come I don't get a chance to say, and how come I don't get to serve the meal sometimes, right? So think about it that way. I like that. All right, we're going to take a break. And when we come back, if we could ask you some questions about the female anatomy that Donald and I, we did the same thing with a urologist, and we think we could be educational to people asking some questions. You bet. Starting with the labia majora. We'll be right back. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast. This season will be even more revealing and more personal with more entrepreneurs, more trailblazers, more live events, more Martha, and more questions from you.

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I'm not stupid, Gene. Something is going on and it's high time you tell me the truth. Freeze, Americano! Gene, run! So travel before it's too late your money will return your time won't and we're all too quickly approaching that final destination listen to fodor's guide to espionage on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Donald and I stumbled across a fact that we call, we refer to as a society to the women's genitalia as the vagina, but what men and women, what everyone is looking at is the labia majora,

correct? Or is that just, yeah, go on, sorry. Okay, well, you're looking at the vulva. So the labia majora is part of the vulva, right? So if you thought, you know, so that's the labia majora, the larger lips, and they are in many people, the most prominent part of the vulva, what you might see, but that can also change, you know, based on age and also individual features, right? You know, we all are shaped differently. If you look at ears, right, everybody's got different shaped ears or noses. So, yeah, so the labia majora, the mons is just above, the labia minora are the inner lips, and all together that encompasses the vulva. Right. Now the labia minora, you started hinted at this, but depending on the woman, just like penises come in so many different shapes and sizes,

the relationship between the labia minora and majora can be completely different just depending on who you are, just like ears, like you said. Absolutely. So some people have smaller labia minora that aren't necessarily visible if you're just looking at the vulva and other people have larger ones and that's great. And there's all variations in between and wouldn't it be awful if we all look the same everywhere, right?

So yeah, so there's different shapes and sizes and that's a wonderful thing. Donald, do you have labia minora questions? No, I do not. Do you want to make a joke about how it sounds like the minora from Hanukkah? No, I don't. I think that's a joke that only you can make. Okay, I'll think of

a good minora. The labia minora. Think about that sex toy we could make, Doctor. We could go on Shark Tank and make a fortune. I don't know how it operates, but it's a labia minora. Right. Donald, your thoughts?

That only comes out during Hanukkah? Yeah, it's for sale only on Hanukkah. And we'll have to figure out exactly how it operates. But can you imagine? Hey, sharks, I'm Donald Faison. No, I cannot imagine this already. We've started. It started off bad.

It's already started off bad. And that's a great double entendre in there. You can't figure out how it works. I know. Exactly. That's funny. How does it work, Doc? Let's just be honest.

How does it work? Like, what are we doing wrong as men that they say a woman can make herself have an orgasm in They say a woman can make herself have an orgasm in however, like less than a minute or two minutes. A woman can do it. And it'll take a guy sometimes to get the woman to orgasm. It could take the whole sex or after sex or never or, you know what I mean? Like, what are we doing wrong? Yeah, what is it? I'm going to just tail on to Donald's question and say,

what is it that you think women would like men to know that not all men know about making her have an orgasm? Well, I don't think I can answer that question in a sort of a tidy little one sentence. Take your time. Take the rest of the podcast, doctor. The podcast is yours, doc. Yes, doctor.

In fact, take the rest of the season and answer this question. If that's what you need. So it depends. It depends what somebody likes. It depends how somebody's feeling in the moment. You know, for a lot of women, there can be so much pressure about,

did you orgasm? Did you come? Did you come? Did you come? Then you know what? That takes somebody out of the moment and it should really, you know, and it also depends what somebody likes. So there might be somebody who, who loves to have, you know, very quick sex with somebody. They know exactly what they want to do. Maybe they don't even want to know that person's name. Right. And then there's people who want to have hours of, you know, build up and foreplay beforehand. And then there's everything in between. And you know what, for this one person,

that might encompass the whole spectrum or it may be different at different phases in their life. So instead of focusing on what brings about an orgasm, the better question is what gives you pleasure, right? And then to start from there, what do you like? Having a conversation, asking someone, can you show me? You know, it shouldn't be a performance. I mean, again, different people like different things and different people also have kinks. So I don't want to exclude people from sort of the totality of the discussion, but start to ask somebody what they like, what brings them pleasure, and to use that as a launching pad. Because at the end of the day, everybody wants to just have good sex when we do have sex.

Nobody just wants to get it over with. And so my wife is right. Quality is so much better than quantity. Quality is like, quality has turned the sex that we have now where when she is eager and ready to do it, I'm like, I can't wait because I can remember what happened last time. And that's a turn on for me. You know what I mean? Like, I love the fact that she's now comfortable enough to say, this is what I want to do. I don't want to do.

You know what I mean? Like for a really long time, I was very dominant in our sex life. And then she said, yo, chill the fuck out. And I'm learning to do that now. And it's very difficult, but I'm learning. And I don't know. Quality is definitely better than quantity. I know that.

It sounds like what you're saying is what the doctor's saying, is that every—doctor, correct me if I'm wrong—every single person's different. It's like the McKinsey story. Like, everyone's different. It falls somewhere on the spectrum of sexuality. What everyone has, we're like butterflies. Every single person is unique to what turns them on and what gets them off and so you don't find out without good communication and i think i think a lot of men perhaps i'm gonna just say a sweeping stereotype perhaps don't necessarily ask they just kind of do instead of finding a way to engage in a conversation.

I say a lot of people, period. I think that's- Yeah. I think that's really common. I mean, if you think about in our society, where do people learn about sex? And as I mentioned earlier, they learn about it from movies. They learn about it from friends. Think about how the dismal state of sex education is in the country. And a lot of it's not sex education. It's how to not get pregnant education and slut shaming. Right. Like that's basically what it is.

And so, you know, if you don't even know how your body works, then and nobody's going to tell you, then, you know, a man, you know, it can lead to all these, you know, not necessarily what can lead to problems, but it can also lead to people not having fulfilling sex lives because they were never educated and they didn't even know to ask because there's so much shame about it. And so, you know, I think, you know, in general, the cornerstone for a lot of people for good sexuality, this is, again, a large generalization, is education and communication. And obviously, that means different things to different people. Knowing what I like is going to be different from what you like, from what other people like. And being able to, you know, if you're in a coupleship, to talk about that. And if you're not in a coupleship, to figure out

how you want that to work for you. And so I think we kind of have to be open-minded about it, understand there is a huge spectrum, and that if people want to make things work together in a long-term coupleship, probably a lot of communication is going to be needed. It's interesting that you say that. We're going to end this part of the conversation because you guys are going to want to talk about it after this. But it seems like as a society, we're going backwards and not forwards when it comes to conversations about sex. It seems like, you know, when these new conversations come up, there's so many politicians and so many people out there who are like, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't want to talk about that. Matter of fact, let's not talk about that at all. Let's just sweep it under the

rug and forget that it exists. And it's happening with history and it's happening with sexuality as well. You know, when we think about politics in this country, we think about the fact that half the population or, you know, the half that's sexually active with men needs contraception to have the kind of sex that they want to have, right? Otherwise, they're, you know, at risk for for, you know, poverty, for generational poverty. Right. For not being able to get the education they want, not being able to have the jobs that they want of reproducing society. And yet we have, it's harder to get healthcare for women. They can't get the contraception that they want. If they are pregnant, they can't get an abortion if they want it. If they're having severe maternal complications during pregnancy, so many labor and delivery rooms are closing. They can't get the care we want, never mind the maternal mortality in this country, especially for Black women, right?

We have all of these problems, and I would argue that they are all tied up with sex and sexuality. And so to have this discussion without including the broader sort of political aspects, you're sort of perpetuating the problem. It's a difficult line to walk because you have to walk being medically correct, right? Right. Right. Versus, you know, versus how do you get people to the table to have that conversation? And so it's, there's a reason I'm not a politician.

Yeah. Yeah. Doctor, what is something you think women wish men knew that they don't know? I mean, there's been jokes in movies and TV shows about finding the clitoris and knowing how to please a woman. Of course, we've seen that our whole lives. But outside of just necessarily something sexual, we asked Casey. She was saying she wishes, what did she say? She wishes men knew more about, she said, actually, she said she wish she knew. When she was younger. When she was younger, that it wasn't solely about pleasing the man, that she also had to find a way to find pleasure herself. Right. She said when she was younger, she would be all right if the person orgasmed and she didn't.

She was fine with that. It was, okay, that's fine. But now that she knows herself, she knows when she wants to orgasm and when she doesn't want to orgasm. She knows if she wants to have an orgasm during sex, she's going to have an orgasm during sex. If she doesn't want to and doesn't want to have sex. But I don't know, man. I don't know. I wish she was here, but she's gone. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast. This season will be even more revealing and more personal with more entrepreneurs, more trailblazers, more live events, more Martha,

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some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About $6 million. Approximately $11 million. Nearly $10 million was all gone. Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry. She would probably have sex with one of her clients.

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Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Tell us all about in any area where you think that men, in your experience, can be more enlightened. Well, I think that's actually a broad topic. I think men could be more enlightened about the burdens of having a uterus and ovaries and vagina and what all of that entails, right? The burden of menstruation, the burden of pregnancy, the burden of ovulating every month, and what it's like to have your whole reproductive tract rewired kind of every sort of 24 to 35 days. And all of those issues that go along with it, right?

So that so many times, you know, women suffer with menstrual cramps or they may get a condition like endometriosis not diagnosed because they're dismissed. They may, you know, have very heavy periods. They don't get taken care of. That all of these things can be a health issue for some people. And I think it would be, I think, good to have more recognition of that, to understand about those burdens. But, you know, I think what women want to obviously, you know, we're not a monolith. And so everybody wants, I think a lot of people want different things. I think that agency, I think a lot of people just want agency.

The ability to say I want something or don't want something. The ability not to be judged for saying you want something. If you want to go out and have sex with somebody you met at a party and that works for you, why should you be judged for that, right? Yes, absolutely. If you also want to marry your high school sweetheart, why should you be judged for that? So the agency to sort of make the wide scope of decisions about your sexuality that men have enjoyed since the beginning of time. That's so well said. We had a couple on that where the woman was having extramarital sex.

With his best friend. With his best friend. With his best friend. And at first we were like so, not freaked out, but it was surprising to us. But at the end of the day, it was like, well, who are we to judge them for being this way? It wasn't an affair. It was that she had permission from her husband

to once a week sleep with his best friend. And Donald and I were very shocked by the story, but it's a perfect example of what you're saying. Everyone's consenting. It's all fine. They're happy, you know, to each their own, right? Yeah, I think if everybody has agency in the relationship, right,

that it's not something forced upon one person. And that's what gets back again to communication, right? And so I think that different things work for different people. And I think now we're especially with social media, we're we're getting more exposure, I think, to different things. Now, obviously, not everything you see on social media is also true. But you know what I'm saying? You're getting a more, I would say, a bigger slice of maybe perhaps what's happening in the population than you would see in conventional television shows and especially things that have to pass sensors. Right. And in, in, I don't know. There are shows like euphoria that freak everybody out. Like Zach, don't you love euphoria? I think euphoria is really well done. Yeah. Incredible.

As a parent, as a parent, that is, but as a, but I want to be informed of what is in the future for my children. I don't think your children necessarily have to live a life like the kids in Euphoria. Do you remember what your partying life was like when you were in high school? It wasn't Euphoria. I can tell you that. Okay, well, mine was similar. It might not have been all of the drugs and stuff.

I have a lot of friends that died from overdosing and stuff like that in real life, and I have a lot of friends that were discovering who they were. And I went to a school where, the arts, the arts and you know how artistic people are when it comes to discovering themselves. And we had some crazy parties. Well, so I use that kind of stuff as a way, since I have 20-year-old twin boys. And I, you know, when Euphoria came out, they were watching it like everybody else. And I was like, hey, we should be talking about you guys carrying Narcan, right? And when you would use that and how you would have it.

And let's go get some from the pharmacy because you're in California. You can do that. And when you go off to college, let's take some extra ones with you so you can keep it in your dorm and you can pass it out to friends. And you can talk about that because, again, not talking about can can actually lead to someone losing their life i gotta tell you as a side note i had to be in the er in new york to help a friend who had something happen to them the person's fine but during the few hours that i was there you know the word that i heard the most narcan it was just so emblematic of of this country right now that like I heard Narcan like 15 times while I was in the ER for a couple hours. So I would reframe that as actually not.

I mean, obviously hearing it in the ER means all these people have come in with overdoses and that's a tragedy. But the message I would like for people listening to hear about is the word Narcan on the street is a success because that means you've had a chance to help somebody and save their life. Right. And that, you know, maybe that is going to help them down the road. Obviously saving their life is going to help them down the road, but you never know when that intervention might help lead to safer drug use, right. Or, or set them down a different path. So I'm just, I just, for me, it's just scary because of the whole oxy and fentanyl- Oh, it's terrible. And I have very, very frank discussions with my kids about, it's not just the fact that you might be getting fentanyl or something like that. You have no idea

what else could be in some of these pills, right? What kind of designer steroid, like other kinds of stuff that we don't know about. So it's just important. So do your boys carry Narcan on them? Well, I'm pretty sure one does, because I have one who's very like a little community activist. And so that's his thing. The other one, you know, is in on Friday night studying. So there's sort of a different range there, but they both have it and they both have access to it. I made them both keep it in their dorms, like next to the ibuprofen. I should get some just, you know, I feel like if it's available in your state, you should just have it in your house like you would have a Band-Aid. Because who the hell knows what could happen.

Because you never know who's at your house and what they're doing in your bathroom room. Right, and you save their life. You never know, man. Yeah, keep it in your house like you would have a band-aid because you never know who's at your house and what they're doing in your right and you save their life you never know man yeah keep it in your car keep it you know just can you look up what states can you buy it uh over the counter joelle do you have any questions for the doctor you're you're our resident woman um do you have anything we're not do anything we're not asking here? Have we embarrassed you enough, Joelle? Yeah, Joelle, are you ashamed of us? I don't feel embarrassed. No, I'm not ashamed. Although I think that might be a really interesting thing to talk about. A lot of our listeners are dudes, and a lot of these dudes have children who have vaginas,

and maybe they don't know anything about them. And I was curious, and there's a a lot you guys were talking about stigma earlier um and i think like you know as a kid growing up and especially for you i grew up in rural illinois so our sex education was uh non-existent um and there was like so many questions we had like and one that came up a lot like in schools like what should a vagina smell like? Mmm. Mmm. Donald and I both go, mmm. So I always find it interesting that nobody asks what a penis or balls should smell like.

Right? It's crazy. Not like mine. Mine are musty. Donald just said, not like mine. Mine are musty. Sorry, sorry, sorry. So I would always, I always sort of bring that,

like, why are we so fixated on how a vagina smells and not fixated on how the other half of the population smells, right? So I just put that out right there. And so I actually, you know, would recommend that anybody who has children read the Vagina Bible so they can actually learn all about what's normal, what are the health conditions that could come along. I've had several single dads reach out to me and tell me that they bought the Vagina Bible and read it so they could actually, you know, know more for their daughters. Because, you know, if you don't have the parts, you don't really know. I mean, you might, but, you know, I'm just saying you're less likely to have an intimate, you know, knowledge of the sort of the medical aspects of it, right? So to get educated and, you know, to think that anytime someone's worried

about how a vagina smells, I want you to think about, I want you to, everybody to, to anybody who's listening, all the dudes, I want you to go to Walgreens or CVS, and I want you to look at the shelves and shelves and shelves of products designed to make a vulva or vagina smell better. And then I want you to find me all the products that are designed to make a penis and balls smell better, because obviously there isn't. I wish that the cartoon company would animate this segment because this is a really good area. Go ahead. Because if you were an alien and you were dropped in a walgreens or a cvs you would think that vaginas are gross and disgusting that would be that would be your

take-home because that's what society wants you to think that's how people make money this is a massive industry we're telling women that they need to use wipes after they go to the bathroom what like men can wipe themselves but women can't what the hell's up with that? I do wipe my balls and my shaft. I keep that shit smelling like nothing. I try to keep it smelling like nothing. Well, it probably smells like the wipes, like some sort of ivory. So my point is, is that we have this whole societal belief that vaginas are gross, right? And so when people, and that is, you know,

kind of a patriarchal tenant that how do we, how do we oppress half the population by telling them that their very biology is problematic? And so I just think it's always important to push back on that. Okay, but just, I hear you, but just so we can answer Joelle's question, let's say you're a single dad, let's say you're, or are you just a dad who wants

to be educated um we don't know i i don't know what what is required of a woman so that she keeps a health not just you know a healthy uh system going because i remember someone telling me that you know doing too much to your to your genitalia as a woman can throw the whole pH balance off and make it bad. So the vagina is like a self-cleaning oven. You don't need to do anything. It has evolved. It is an evolutionary marvel to take care of itself. It has all kinds of defense mechanisms and built-in systems to keep it functioning well.

And just like a self-cleaning oven, if you start doing things to it to clean it, you can actually damage it. And so you don't need actually any care for the vagina, which is inside. If you have an itch, if you notice an odor that seems different to you, if you notice a discharge that's different, then yes, you should see a healthcare provider.

From a vulvar standpoint, you should treat it like all your skin and sensitive areas. I mean, your face as well, that tends to be more sensitive skin. You want to use a cleanser, not a soap. Soap dries your skin. So cleansers are best. And apart from that, but if you just want to use water, that's also fine too. And using things like wipes will irritate the skin. You do not need to use any special feminine products. None of them are studied in any meaningful way. And most of them end up causing irritation. And that's really it. That's the Kohl's notes or Clif's notes. Well, I can tell you as someone with a scrotum, it's not that simple. You have to soap it up.

You got to get in there with soap, Donald. Well, all I can tell you is I only have an amateur interest in men, not a professional one. And I appreciate your amateur interest. Well, I can just think of Donald just declaring that his balls are musty and poor Casey. They get musty. I'm not going to lie. When I work out and I'm not going to. Okay. so.

But when you're about to have sex with Casey and you've had musty balls. She has dissed me so many times, it's ridiculous. Do you go and say, babe, let me hop in the shower? My wife has weaponized the smell of my downtown area so many times to make me feel like shit. She'll say shit like, damn, baby, wash that shit. Why don't you do that? If you know you have a shot, you've done the dishes, she's turned on, why don't you run to the shower and clean your mess up?

Because I, like Dr. Gunter, believe that it will fix itself. No, your balls don't self-clean. Dr. Gunter did not say that your balls will self-clean. I was only talking about vulvas and vaginas. Donald misunderstood. Donald misunderstood. Got it, got it, got it. I thought we were on the universal conversation.

Donald, let me help you. The scrotum is not a self-cleaning oven, Donald. But I'll tell you, there's a really interesting study that was done a little while back. And I hope I'm quoting it correctly. study that was done a little while back, and I hope I'm quoting it correctly. But when people have sex, obviously there's fluids and there might be farting and there's all kinds of stuff that happens that we would normally maybe be a little bit like, ooh, that's kind of gross about. And when people are sexually excited, their ability to tolerate disgusting things actually increases. Are you kidding me? There's a population of people that will eat somebody's asshole the first time they meet them without wipes or anything,

but then will turn around and tell you that you do not have the right to do what you want to do with your body. So I know exactly what you're talking about when it comes to that. All those people out there that will do that and then all of a sudden tell me I'm nasty because I like something. All right. Well, on that note, let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast. This season will be even more revealing and more personal with more entrepreneurs, more trailblazers, more live events, more Martha, and more questions from you. I'm talking to my cosmetic dermatologist, Dr. Dan Belkin, about the secrets behind my skincare. Walter Isaacson, about the geniuses who change the world.

Encore Jane about creating a billion-dollar startup. Dr. Elisa Pressman about the five basic strategies to help parents raise good humans. Florence Fabrikant about the authenticity in the world of food writing. Be sure to tune in to season two of the Martha Stewart podcast. Listen and subscribe to the Martha Stewart podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I used to have so many men. How this beguiling woman in her 50s She looked like a million bucks.

with zero qualifications She had a Harvard plaque. tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents. She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway. Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion. that this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports

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when traveling is choosing the right destination when traveling is choosing the right travel partner. Gene! Eugene Fodor! Gene, what's going on? Much of the joy you will find on the road comes from the person you share it with. So you write the books, Gene, and the last hour on the business.

I understand now. He's a wise man, Mary is a wiser woman. But be careful and choose your travel partner well because the worst trips result when two partners have two different agendas. Get down!

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Your time won't. And we're all too quickly approaching that final destination. Listen to Fodor's Guide to Espionage on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. iHeart Podcast update this week on your free iHeartRadio app. In retrospect, revisit pop culture moments from the 80s and 90s and try to understand what it taught us about the world and a woman's place in it. Crying in public. Two 20-something college women living in NYC dive into growing up at a time when there was no

distinction between what's public and what's private. Best of both worlds. A discussion on work-life balance, career development, parenting, time management, productivity, and making time for fun. Hear these podcasts and more on your free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Daniel, do you have any questions? We want to make sure everyone has a fair chance. Daniel, you're a very handsome man. You've been with a woman for a long time. Is there anything you want to ask the doctor that you might share next time you're twitching

or muck banging? That's very kind of you. I appreciate the kind words. I don't know if I have any questions as much as I just want to celebrate the doctor's, I think, awesome perspective of conversation and communication being the root of all of these things. You also sound like the coolest mom ever being like,

let's get you kids some Narcan. What a great thing. I also put in the chat that Narcan is let's get you kids some narcan what a great thing um i also put in the chat that narcan is legal to buy over the counter in every state which is wonderful it was approved by the fda in march so that's there you go if you're listening and you live in the united states you can buy narcan and have it in your house for emergencies in any state yeah you might save somebody's life most definitely but yeah just i really appreciate that communication is the root of all of these things because so much of our country's opinion on sex and drugs and alcohol, I mean, any sort of vice or whatever is solely rooted in I refuse to have the conversation. Right.

And I just wanted to add, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but I just wanted to say that judgment never helps any conversation move forward. Boom. What a phrase to end on. Judgment never helps any conversation move forward. Love that. All right, Doctor, thank you so much for your time. Also, plug your podcast for everybody, because we know you have a popular podcast. Well, I did, but we couldn't get funding for future seasons.

So yeah, I did have a great- Well, plug the episode. I listened to some episodes. So plug this show that is available, the ones you did do. So yeah, I did a podcast with the TED Audio Collective all about your body called Body Stuff. And I got to talk to amazing experts all around the world. We talked about the history

of why we believe things about our body and also to experts to put that history into perspective. And it was wonderful. And unfortunately, you know, as a fact check, science-based fun podcast just didn't seem to attract advertisers. So that's sad. The episodes are up there and you can listen to them. There are, there's two seasons. I listened to a bunch and got educated.

And also I hope you'll come back on our show. We are lucky enough. Do you want to plug your book also? Oh, yeah. The Vagina Bible. So I have the Vagina Bible, which came out in 2019. I also have the Menopause Manifesto, which is all about menopause, obviously. And then I have a new book coming out in January, January 23rd, called Blood. And it's the science, medicine, and mythology of menstruation. Wow. Well, I just think you're so wise, and we really appreciate you. I hope you'll come back.

Yeah, I hope I didn't freaking turn you off from coming back. I'm sorry. No, I'm more than happy to come back. I just have to tell you guys, Scrubs was such a fantastic show for me to see as a doctor, was such a fantastic show for me to see as a doctor. And I will echo every other doctor's sentiment that that is the most accurate medical show that has ever existed. So thank you guys.

Thank you. And we just want to, you know, we're mostly a comedy podcast, but I think Donald and I both feel like in the spirit of being fake doctors, let's take the opportunity when we can, because we have so many people listening to share some interesting medical tips and advice and education for people.

So thank you so much. Well, thank you for having me. Thank you so much. I'd love to come back anytime. And we'd love to talk about penises and vaginas on this, so you fit in perfectly. Yes. All right. Thank you, Dr. Gunter.

Thanks, Dr. Gunter. Thank you. All right. We should take a break, bro. All right, Donald. You're right. All this vagina talk. We should take a break, bro. All right, Donald. You're right. All this vagina talk has made us need a break. We'll be right back.

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No. I mean, other than, you know, feel free to DM us, message us about what kind of specialists you'd like to see on the show. Who are you interested in? We're doing sort of like a sex-tober thing. Yeah, we're doing sex-tober. We should definitely have a sex therapist, Joelle, because I love it.

The gynecologist said, hey, this is the end of my specialty, but you should have a sex therapist to, and I think that would be very helpful to us. I agree. When she said that, I got very excited. And you said, Joelle, book a sex therapist. In my mind, I was like, Joelle book, a sex therapist in my mind. I was like, first of all,

free sex therapy. In a session? It's not, I want, I want you in the audience to all know that this is not so you can have a personal session with the sex therapist. We'll give you, we'll give you his or her number.

Can I get like 10 minutes? Can I get like 10 minutes? We'll give you their number and you can hire them privately for a private session. Can I get like 10 minutes? Can I get like 10 minutes on air? We'll give you their number, and you can hire them privately for a private session. Can we get like 10 minutes? I know why you're showing like on the Zoom like, what should I do when I'm in this position? Oh, I didn't know that that's what sex therapy was. I think it can be anything related to intercourse. You can be like, how do I do X, Y, or Z?

Or what does this position do? Oh, I can't wait to have a sex therapist on. Let me ask you a question. I'm a little nervous about this. When I was younger, I dated a girl who was like, I'm going to be a sex therapist when I get older. And in my mind, I was like, well, what the fuck does that entail? What do you have to do when you are a sex therapist?

And so I'm very eager to. I don't think you do. Well, I don't know, Joel. Do you know if there's versions? I don't think they touch the person. They just coach them. I don't know. A licensed sex therapist is mostly, to the best of my knowledge, listening to you and giving advice.

There are other types of sex therapies where someone might be coaching in appropriate ways to help you. Tickling. It's not an appropriate. Joel, do you think there's an appropriate, do you think there's somebody, do you think there's a doctor who's like, and then try this Ken four fingers.

Now, now, now Carl, just gently put the thumb on the booty. Like, it would not surprise me. We had talked about having a tantric yoga person We talked about having sex workers

Let's have a tantric yoga person I feel bad for Casey if we have a tantric yoga person There's no way Casey's gonna let me Bang and be like namaste Oh my god you're wild I think tantric sex is a bit more Than fucking and then saying namaste But I don't know much

That's what sting used to do right You would have sex for like 24 hours Namaste Alright I think that's a good note To wrap up the show Alright we'll see you next time This is Zach and Donald coming at you live All right. I think that's a good note to wrap up the show. All right. We'll see you next time.

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