Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 207: My First Step

Episode Date: July 23, 2020

On this week's episode, the crew becomes risk averse and Dr. Cox tries to ignore his feelings for the new pharmaceutical sales rep. In the real world, Zach and Donald talk about their new adventures in video gaming, and Zach talks about his musical themed Bar mitzvah. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I love the fact that you two went out and invested in better microphones because you knew you were going to be on the podcast. Yeah, both of y'all. Hey, Donald, speaking of recording well, Donald, you blew out a lot. We handled it already. We handled it already. You're late. You're late, Zach. Tell Zach what the problem was, though. We handled it already. We handled it already. You're late. You're late, Zach.

Tell Zach what the problem was, though. You sounded like shit. My housekeeper or my kids turned the volume all the way up to 10. Oh, okay. Yeah. Should I turn mine down, too, Dan? Mine's at 7 or 8. That sounds good.

Also, Donald, if you're going to blow out doing an Oprah voice or just going full Donald, back up. Good advice right there. Yeah. Okay? If you're doing one of your classic Donald moments that's going to make you go woozy, you might want to just back up from the mic. Listen, I'm in no mood to be ridiculed. What you trying to get into a day soon? What you trying to do? Let's get into the podcast. Let's get into this soon? What you trying to do?

Let's get into the podcast. How are you, man? I'm good. I got a little headache. I think I may have had one glass of wine too many that led to what's called a headache, Donald. Really? Really. I drank a little bit of beer last night and woke up with a little bit of a... It's gone now, but it was like a little bit of a stuffy nose, like a little bit of a runny nose.

When I drink a lot of hops or wheat or whatever that is, I get a little bit of a runny nose, I've noticed. Well, when I drink a little bit too much wine, I get what's called a headache. That's because of the sugar, though. I know. You need to drink more water when you drink your wine. Of course you do, but I like it. It makes me happy. By the way, a lot of people were saying they do want to play the bingo game.

I told you. I was wrong. I told you. So let's get some bingo cards from that. Or you know what would be good, Joelle? If we could get that guy's thing and then have it be easily downloadable for people. Oh, I could probably work on that. Or, you know, it'd be good, Joelle, if we could get that guy's thing and then have it be easily downloadable for people. Oh, I could probably work on that.

Yeah, so they can play along. We might need different bingo cards. Yeah, we need different bingo cards. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Well, who's going to do all that manual labor? Hi, fans. If you would like to make bingo cards available for free, you would have our never-ending gratitude we can't

pay you but we could our gratitude and our love and our respect and a shout out right here on the pod i will shout out right not not only that but if you live in the united states of america we will ship to you right guys kombucha so just you know if you're in the mood if you got the time make yourself a fake doctor Doctors Real Friends bingo card so everyone can play along. And somehow Joelle will figure out a way to make them available. Yes. We can do that.

We can select a winner at random. So just making the card does not guarantee you some GT's Kombucha. Just to clarify, I can pick one of you guys at random. Oh, Joelle's doing the small print now. Joelle, I think you're supposed to say that like fast and low, like just making a card. Continental United States. By the way, you are allowed to go to the UK, Donald.

You have to just quarantine alone for 14 days. It's the – because the UK left the EU. So you just can't. We're not allowed to go to Europe. Got it. Isn't that so embarrassing? We're so bad at this that we've been banned from Europe. Yeah. That's how it goes.

We didn't exactly nail it. No. We missed. We missed by a lot. It's so bad. I saw this graph. I saw this graph that showed the first spike, and then it said it was labeled naive. And then it showed the second spike, and it goes stupid. Like you can call the first spike naive, but the second spike is just stupidity.

Well, you know, and I'm just talking about this because it's it's been the whole year so far the whole year but fucking put on a mask guys all this bullshit about i don't need to wear a mask like i was watching the news and some dude actually said the same thing that they said in the beginning oh it, it's just like the flu. If I get it, you know, my body could fight the infection. You know, I'm not afraid of this thing. He has no idea. No idea. Now, granted, he was coming from Arizona and going to Florida,

the two hotspots in the United States. But still, dude. I read in Wisconsin they're having a herd immunity festival where people that want to try and get it are all going to meet and go to this festival so they think that they can get it and create some sort of herd immunity. But hasn't herd immunity proven not to work with this virus? Some people have caught it twice. Yeah, and I think in Sweden they did a whole experiment where they weren't going to do anything work and it didn't work no and it didn't save them any dollars for their economy either it has not been a success um how are you donald faze on how's i you know

the picture you posted of your daughter in the zach graftel really is a beautiful shot it put a tear to my eye because she's such a beautiful child and what a glorious towel. Anyway, how are you? How's life over at your house? How are things going? It's different, man. Are you still using the inflatable? Are the kids over the inflatable thing you bought in the backyard? Yeah, they are. So we started to do a little bit of golf. So you know how I love to play golf. Oh, I saw that. I saw that picture of you and your kids all playing golf. You know how I love to play golf golf so i took them to the driving range and my daughter's

really excited about it she's gung-ho about hitting balls with dad and she you know she's she's picking it up my son however would rather play video games i made a mistake when i was a when i was a few years ago well last, last year, I introduced Rocco to video games, big mistake, every word out of his mouth. Now, now granted his vocabulary has grown, uh,

uh, by leaps and bounds, but holy cow, man, if I got to hear about, you know, uh, Minecraft and the Enderman and and and jewels and all of that stuff is minecraft is his favorite well no he has three favorites okay well now four

it's minecraft zelda breath of the wild i see Joelle loves Breath of the Wild. This is a child of taste. Yeah. Star Wars Battlefront, which is a first-person shooter game, but in the Star Wars universe. And the fourth one, it just started happening, and it's like some... I don't remember the name. Something like Castle something. I don't remember the name something like Castle something. I don't know. Anyway, hold on. Rocco!

Oh my god. We've never gotten a feature from we have one feature a while ago from Rocco. Very briefly. It's been a minute. Rocco's first cameo. I'm excited to hear what this last one is. Yeah, me too. Oh my god. It can't be Castlevania that's so violent castle crashers i thought it might be castle crashers that came yeah no wait i don't

know castle crashers what is this four-player co-op very like low poly graphics it's really fun yes a living room game i love it what's a living room game a game that everybody can play a game you can play on your couch everybody can play a game you can play on your couch everybody can play yeah yeah everybody in your house can sit on the couch and play a game the game whereas minecraft you could play it with four players but that's just tough uh or two players i'm not sure but uh and i just got an xbox one so i think i'm gonna try and get into you know get castle crashes if you're into if you know what you really, listen, I know we, the Switch, get that dude,

and get Zelda Breath of the Wild. Oh, that's what, he's playing on Switch? That's the one game he plays on Switch. And that game alone is worth buying the Switch for. Okay. Well, I just got Xbox because I feel like I've reached the point in quarantine where I'm going to have to start doing some new stuff. Get the Switch, dude. I'm going to get into a video game.

Get the Switch and get Zelda. I'm telling you right now. I'm sure I can find it. Switch and get Zelda Breath of the Wild. I just got an Xbox One. I'm sure I can find a game to play on Xbox One. Why are you telling me to get a whole different system? Because this, dude, I'm telling you right now, dude, if you want to play a game that's going to occupy your time

and make your brain do, you know, thinking stuff, Zelda Breath of the Wild. Am I wrong, guys? Please, if I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. You're certainly not wrong. It's a great game. There's also great games for that. I will now go return the Xbox One

because Donald cannot think of a game that I might like on Xbox One. So I'm going to return it and get Switched. I can think of games that I like on Xbox One. I can think of games. The backpedal. I don't know what type of gamer Zach is. What do you like in your video? He doesn't play video games.

I don't really play, but when we were making the TV show Scrubs, I would get into games. And the last game I remember being really into was Hitman. The first one. Okay, alright. I really liked it because for me, it was, I liked the idea of having to play a character

and go undercover and you'd feel your heart beating when they were starting to figure you out. And I really like that. What do you call that type of game? Yeah, we finished that game. I finished that game. That's how much we got into it.

But there's another one. There's been a second one that apparently is really good that I never played. There's a third one on the way. There's a third one on the way. So I think I might, I don't know. What do you call that kind of game? That's what I like. Totally.

I feel like you might be like an Elder Scrolls or like a Skyrim kind of guy. I don't like too much wizardy shit. Scratch Elder Scrolls. Get the F out of here. Scratch Skyrim too. He might like GTA. When people start throwing wizard spells, I'm out. I don't like that.

I like reality. I started to like that one the Spider-Man kid is playing. Uncharted? No, no, no. Uncharted? Oh, Uncharted. That's a good one.

That's a great game series. Yeah. Only problem, it's for the PlayStation. So you can't get it on Xbox. Sorry. Also, isn't there a Wild West one that's kind of a- Yeah, Red Dead Redemption. Get that.

Yes. Yes, get that. That's super worth it. Get the second one, Red Dead Redemption 2. 2. Also. Yes, get that. That's super worth it. Get the second one, Red Dead Redemption 2. 2. Also, I'm just going to throw it out there, Assassin's Creed.

I don't like that. I don't like those games. Whoa! Why not? It's very similar to Hitman. It's very similar in style. It's like a free lesson in video game form.

It is very similar. I just find that it's weird that I just don't like the game. I don't know. That's just me. Okay, that's fair. Totally fine. That's fair. Totally fine. That's fair.

Totally fine. Also, when Cyberpunk 77 comes out, Zach, I feel like you will really enjoy that game because you get to create every aspect, and I mean every aspect of your character, and then your choices determine the storyline. So there's not one linear storyline that every player will have. It's entirely based on your choices throughout the game. It's supposed to be really good. I'm very excited about it.

I tried to get into GTA, Don, because you were obsessed with it while we did Scrubs, but I just found it boring after a while. Well, then you might not like Red Dead Redemption 2, then, if that's the case. Why? Because it's kind of the same thing as GTA. Red Dead Redemption?

I thought Red Dead Redemption was going around the West. We're about to get into our first fight. Let's talk about this shit. Because every game that I'm like, this shit is dope. You're like, eh, well, it's all right. And then every game that you're like, this shit is dope. I'm like, that shit sucks. So let's get into this.

No, we probably shouldn't because we should segue off video games because there might be listeners who are already bored as fuck about us talking about video games. We can do this later. Yeah, I think I should do a video game podcast. Okay. By the way, I saw a lot of chatter about people really wanting a Donald

Joel Star Wars podcast. So I think you guys need a side hustle. I'm going to agree with us starting a Star Wars podcast. You guys can just go off. You won't get stopped by me. You won't have me going, I'm so bored. You guys can geek out about Star Wars forever.

I mean, if iHeart wants to do a Star Wars podcast, we're down to be the hosts of it, aren't we, Joelle? Absolutely, absolutely. Especially, I think, between the two of us, we probably know everybody who's either involved in the creation and or talking about i know like a ton of the talking heads uh from like starwars.com and you know people like that's gonna be fun to do like interviews and talk about our favorite characters

i can get you deborah chow who directed a bunch of the mandalorians and is directing um the new ob1 series she's my friend when i tell you i will sob openly i'm so obsessed with deborah oh my god oh well i can get you your first mega guest deborah that would be our first episode all right She's my friend. When I tell you, I will sob openly. I'm so obsessed with Debra. Oh, my God. What a talent. I can get you your first mega guest, Debra Chow. That would be our first episode. All right, let me bring you to the higher ups, and we'll discuss. There you go. I want to cut, though.

I want to cut. And I want to occasionally come on and be like, this is so boring. We'll never have you on the podcast. Do you want to fucking count us in Donald? let's fucking start the show I do want to count us in but I also want to talk about the fact that our neighbor in New York City when we lived in New York

went to Twitter somebody hit her up and said is this story true? and she was like I don't know she was like I don't ever recall writing a letter to anyone uh but i've had several people live uh sublet the place so can you tell me the year and i'm gonna tell her the year it would have been summer of 2002 right either 2002 or 2000 well we came out 2001 yeah the show came on in one so it would have been summer of

summer 2002 summer it was the it was the loft in soho and it was the one right above your loft miss tan and we apologize we were young and we were partying and we were loud and if it wasn't you well we were told it was you and we definitely got a letter that we assumed was from you. And then we also got told by whoever we rented from that we needed to shut the fuck up. Yeah. And keep it down. And they kept our deposit, too. I wrote a very angry letter about them keeping our deposit. I do remember that as well.

Yeah, because I was like, this is some BS. Because the place had some problems. We loved it, but place had some problems we loved it but it had some problems yeah like not if you ever rent a place and um it's got all these problems but you kind of suck it up and you're like oh whatever then they try and keep your deposit you're like whoa whoa whoa this place ain't all that now hold on let's talk about the fucking 35 things we looked at looked at the other way from like Right. You know, like air conditioning. Right. Oh, it was so hot.

Like the fact that Donald didn't have a room and started calling himself Benson. Anyway. Five, six, seven, eight. I said stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who loved to hate. I said here's a story That we all should know So gather round to hear our

Gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald I love you. Your beard's looking nice, by the way. It's getting fuller. It's growing in. It's full. And there's no gray in that thing.

There's a lot of gray in it. It's just like one. Really? I in. It's full. And there's no gray in that thing. There's a lot of gray in it. It's just like one. I don't see it. Yeah. If I grow a beard now, it's too gray. I don't like it. I feel it makes me look too old. You have a lot of gray.

Yeah, it makes me look too old. So I don't really do it anymore. Although I was seeing on the interwebs, they have this dye you can put in your beard. Yeah, but then if you put your face on a pillow and the pillow's white, you got dye all on the pillow. No, I don't think it comes off. Really? You think it comes off? Hell yeah, man.

Oh, you've tried it. No, I just think it comes off. That's makeup, though. I think the dye is more permanent. Okay. Heather Locklear is in this episode, Donald. Oh, are you going to sum it up for us? Yeah, I am going to sum it up for you.

Okay, so this is a good episode, very funny. And Heather Locklear is the guest star. I think she does two episodes. Yes. And she gets the classic gorgeous woman entrance in Scrubs where she comes in the hallway in slow motion with the fan. And she looks marvelous. But let's first hear a summary. Let me get my stopwatch ready.

Okay, I'm going to be honest with you guys. This summary is really quick. Well, then you're going to beat 30 seconds, I guess. I'm going to definitely beat 30 seconds this time around. Okay, well, let's, you know, don't go too far. Because this episode had so many things in it, but it all boils down to one thing. Hit the stopwatch.

Wait, but one second. I don't want you to get too cocky with your summaries. You have to really- Hit the stopwatch already. Okay, and go. All right, see, this episode, it all boils down to one thing. When you really think about it, this episode's all about taking chances and the positive things that can happen when you exit your comfort zone. And it takes Elliot, JD, Carla, and Dr. Cox this whole episode to realize good things can happen when you step out of your comfort zone. That was very good. I noticed you slowed down, so you were trying to make it fill the 30 seconds. Right.

You spoke at a very leisurely pace. Because this time there's not much to this episode. I have a feeling the only thing you wanted to say was, this episode's about taking chances. So you were like, go. This episode is about one thing. I got very

Bill Shatner with it, huh? This episode's about one thing. You know, do you remember when Shatner went on SNL and he was playing himself at a convention? Yeah, at a convention. And John Lovitz is like, yes, I have a question.

In episode 327, what is the combination to the safe? And he goes, look, I just have to say one thing after coming to all these conventions. And I get all your letters and your fan mail. I just have to say one thing after coming to all these conventions. And I get all your letters and your fan mail. I just have to say, get a life. He goes, it was a show.

We did it years ago. Great. I remember that. Great, great episode. And I remember when- I wonder, he must have gotten a lot of backlash from like the hardcore Trekkies. Dude, he is, listen, I've met William Shatner quite a few times

and he is a lovely man. He is very funny and does not take the Star Trek fandom serious like that, seriously like that. Like he's for real, like on some, I played this role. I love the fact that everybody loves it, but that doesn't necessarily define who I am. You know what I'm saying? Really? I wonder how those mega fans are with him because a lot of people who are in mega fandom

pieces of content, understandably and rightfully so, embrace the fan base and do whatever they want. And he embraces it completely. He embraces it. But he doesn't roll his eyes about it? I don't know that he rolls his eyes about it. And I don't know how he is with his fans. But when you talk to him about it, yeah, he's well aware. I was in Star Trek and it was a very popular show.

And I, you know, I crushed it. That being said, there were other shows. T.J. Hooker with Heather Locklear. By the way, look at what good hosts we are. We're circling back to T.J. Hooker with Shatner. And Heather Locklear.

And Heather Locklear. What an odd name for a show, T.J. Hooker. For those of you who don't know, it was not about a hooker. It was about a cop. A was about um a cop a cop they were a bunch of cops they were partners right i never saw an episode i think she was on it i think she see this is how dope heather locklear she's had such a long career oh my god back in the day i think she was on two hit shows at one time uh and i don't know if they were on the same network but i know she was doing two shows at one time, and both of them were hits.

And she was ratings gold. Well, she was on Dynasty, right? And she was on Melrose Place, obviously. What else was she on? And she was on TJ Hooker. Right. I searched her. I don't know if I saved her.

It just seemed like if you wanted a ratings bump and you needed to bring the ratings up, You bring Heather Locklear into the fold. And she just works wonders on ratings. Well, she certainly is a very pretty human being. And I think people always like her. She's also very, very, very funny and talented, man. It was like the perfect storm. Oh, she was on Spin City. She was on Bill's show, Spin City.

It was also, it's like the perfect storm of, you know, of talent. She's very beautiful. Yes. She's very funny. She did Dynasty. By the way, she's coming on the program, right, Joelle? Yes. We have her scheduled for the next episode, episode eight.

The next episode, we're having her on, Donald. How fancy is that? I love this. I mean, I think. I don't want to let the fans down. I mean, you never know what can happen in the fast-paced, moving world of podcast booking guests. But so far, we have her. I'm very excited about it. She's, I just wanted to say, and she's had such an interesting life.

We got to ask her. We got to go deep with Heather. Are we going to go deep? Are we going to go deep, are we going to go deep, deep, deep undercover like Eddie Murphy and Beverly Hills Cop 2? No, I'm not trying to like ask her personal questions, but I mean, she's just had such a- I didn't say ask her personal questions. Are we trying to go deep, deep, deep undercover though? She was married, she liked rockers. She was married to Tommy Lee. She was married to Richie Sambora. Oh, she had a relationship with Jack Wagner, my sister. May she rest in peace. Man, did she have a crush on Jack Wagner. You know who that

is, Donald? Yeah, he's a great golfer. Jack Wagner? No, but he's an actor. No, I know he's an actor, but he's also one of the best celebrity golfers. I think he also sings too. I think my sister used to love him so much. she used to listen to his music. Okay, no, I've got her things up here. She's, gosh, she's been on so many shows. Her first job, it looks like, was on Chips as a teenager.

Wow. And TJ Hooker, Dynasty, a show called Going Places Melrose Place Spin City she was on a show called LAX in 2004-2005

the Melrose Place Reunion geez wow she works a lot well it's Heather Locklear dude hey she was in Uptown Girls yeah wow I mean just to show the audience how well we're dovetailing all this together, Uptown Girls is the movie Donald made when we were in New York when Amy Tan got mad at us. That's exactly.

This is turning out to be. Wow. It's almost like we planned it all. It does seem like it. Like, our fans right now, the people listening to this podcast right now, they're making this up. But we're not making this up. This is all true.

Yeah. It's as though Donald. So anyway, we're going to ask her about some of that. I mean, I don't know. We're going to ask her about everything. We're going to ask her about Shatner. We're going to ask her about Melrose Place. Did you ever watch Melrose Place?

I did not. Yeah, it wasn't really aimed at us, I don't think. No. But, yeah, Andrew Hsu went to my high school. He was a very good soccer player. Nobody cares, Zach. Oh. I'm just telling you, Andrew Hsu and you know who his sister is?

Elizabeth Hsu. Yeah. Both went to Columbia High School in Maplewood, New Jersey. Now let me get this straight. Elizabeth Shue, Adventures in Babysitting Elizabeth Shue? Yeah. She and my wife kind of look alike. Yeah.

They have similar hair. And similar chins too. You know who else went to my high school? No. Lauryn Hill. Lauryn Hill. We were in all the same. Strumming my pain with his fingers.

Singing my life with his words. Go ahead. Killing me softly with his song. Killing me softly with his song telling my whole life with his words killing me softly. I love her Miseducation of Lauryn Hill so much. With his song. You wouldn't know that, but that's Tribe Called Quest right there. No, that's...

Oh, yeah. But that was off the Fuji's album. That song was off the Fuji's album. But her solo album, I loved so much. Yeah, that record's one of the best records ever made. I think I might agree with you. To this day. She was at my bar mitzvah.

And, you know, we play a game at bar mitzvahs well at least the kids used to called coke and pepsi and it's like a dance floor game like you're on one side and your partner's on the other and your coke and your partner's pepsi and if they go coke all the uh all the kids run over and they sit on your on your knee and they go pepsi and it's like it's kind of like a musical chairs thing the The last person there is kicked off, kicked off, kicked off until there's only two left standing. Well, Lauryn Hill was my Coke and Pepsi partner at my bar mitzvah. And that's the extent of the anecdote. Did you guys win?

I don't think we won, no. Well, because I invited some jocks to my bar mitzvah, and I think they got really serious about it. And Lauryn and I were like the two actors, you know, joking around. We weren't like really trying to win Coke and Pepsi. Got it. Can you tell me what song you walked out to for your bar mitzvah and how you, and the high stepping that you did? So what happened was I entered my bar mitzvah. So what they said, oh my God, this is so embarrassing.

I love it, though. It's so embarrassing. But you know what? No one's listening. It's just us. It's just the four of us. So the theme was musical theater. Hell, yes.

So, you know, for those of you who don't know, back in the day, I don't know if kids do this anymore. But back in the day, your bar mitzvah had to have, like, a theme. And often kids would choose their sport because that's what you know my theme is soccer and like the centerpieces would be soccer balls and the cake would look like a soccer ball and it was just you know that kind of thing and uh so my theme is musical theater and um the the company that planned the party hired actors to dress up as famous characters from the muse from different musicals like one guy was dressed as like a cat from cats one gal was dressed as someone in Sunday in the Park with George with like a parasol someone was dressed as like Les Mis you know

someone on a barricade kind of thing and and then so as i so as i walked into the room these people were standing as centerpieces in the middle of the tables frozen as robots and as i walked into the room the band struck up let's hear it for the boy and then the centerpieces all started moving at like robe like like robotic um figures to the rhythm of let's hear it for the boy. And you high-stepped into your bat mitzvah. Yes. Let's hear it for the boy. And the crowd went wild.

And all the different robotic people moved like robots to let's hear it for the boy. Maybe he's no Romeo, but he's my lover. He's my lover in one man show. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's hear it for the boy. And I remember that my friend. Boom, boom, ba-doom, doom. I remember that my friend.

Boom, boom, ba-doom, boom, boom. My friend Roger Heller, he noticed that the guy playing one of the cats from the musical Cats was distracted doing his robot dance to Let's Hear It for the Boy. And so he took his spoon and he tied the guy's tail around a bunch of silverware. So when the poor guy – when the number was over And the guy was like Taking his bow And got down off the table He was clanking silver That Roger had tied to his tail Like a car that had cans

Tied to it Just married Oh my god Oh my god It was so embarrassing That's hilarious. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words.

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Let's get into the episode. All right. Heather Locklear comes in. Now, I don't know if you know this, Donald, or if our listeners know this, but I find that not everyone knows this. This is a real thing, that the pharmaceutical companies- Oh, absolutely. They send out, they're often beautiful women. I assume handsome men as well, but more often than not, they're beautiful women. And their job is to

convince doctors to prescribe their drug. And they'll, they'll, they still do tons of shady stuff. I think some of it's been attempted to be curbed because it was out of control. I knew girls in my high school that would do this right out of high school, like their first job or right out of college, their first job was going to do this. And you've gotten, if you're ever in a doctor's office and you see someone come in and they're all kind of dolled up and they're pulling a, um, a little rolly bag, that's often a pharmaceutical rep. And you'll be frustrated when you see them go in the office before you, and you're like, Oh, I've been waiting here. And now I have to wait for, for her to go schmooze the doctor.

And they always have, that's why the doctor always has all this swag that we joke about in the episode and t-shirts, but that's the least of it. They keep track of how much the doctor is prescribing the drug. And if you prescribe it a certain amount, they're like can win vacations and trips. And they take them to lunch and they buy them expensive, just like this dinner that's in this episode. And they schmooze the nurses too. They're like, oh, I brought sushi. I brought cupcakes.

And it's all this like – it's like payola. It's like this super shady aspect of the pharmaceutical world. Not that there needs to be more shady aspects. but it's something that really, really happens. And it's really, really fucked up, I think, because they're basically like incentivizing the doctors to prescribe their drug or recommend it. Right. Well, in this episode,

this drug that she's pushing actually works very well. The only problem that Cox has with it is that they've marked it up so high. It's sort of like EpiPens. EpiPens work great. If you have allergies to anything and you go into anaphylactic shock because of your allergies or because of said allergies, an EpiPen can help save your life. The problem with EpiPens are they're so expensive, and even the generic brand is so expensive and very hard to come by. Yeah, I mean, of course, and the marking up of drugs is a whole other thing.

That's why people drive across the border to go to Canada, where they don't mark the drugs up like that. You can, that's why people drive across the border to go to Canada where they don't mark the drugs up like that. And, and, and, I mean, they have like literally have bus trips where they'll, where a bunch of seniors will get on a bus and, and go to Canada to buy their drugs for a more affordable price and then come back to this country. But let's not go down a giant tangent like that because we'll, we can make a whole podcast about how fucked up that shit is. because we can make a whole podcast about how fucked up that shit is. But anyway, this episode is about a pharmaceutical rep coming to bribe everyone with pens and swag and free steak. And sexiness. And of course, sexiness, which is something that is a part of it.

I mean, I imagine in my brain, some of this has been curbed, but back in the day, it was all about like flirting. I mean, all the girls that I knew that did this were attractive women. And they would say, yeah, part of it is like, you know, gentle flirting to get the doctors to prescribe their drug. And then they would have – this girl once showed me. She's like, you won't believe the data we have on these doctors. Like what they're prescribing, how many times they prescribed our drug, when they didn't prescribe our drug. And they do all this sort of shady stuff. Like they put certain doctors on retainer. Oh, you're a consultant with our pharmaceutical company,

which is basically just fucking shady payola to make sure they're prescribing it. And when it's not an addictive drug, it's like, okay, that's one little shady. Now cut to it when it's an opioid and they're fucking prescribing OxyContin and making everyone addicts. I highly recommend this book called Dope Sick if you want to read about this. It's about how the pharmaceutical industry, particularly Purdue Pharma, got into basically turning in so many people into opioid addicts because of the over-prescription of OxyContin. And I just finished this book and it's amazing. And I think Michael Keaton is going to make it into a miniseries. But don't wait for that. Read the book, Dope Sick. The episode starts off with people getting hurt. This kid's gotten hurt, got hurt, and you watched

him get hurt on video. Yes. I gotta be honest with you. I watch a lot of crazy shit because I enjoy watching people get hurt. But then it turns, you know, sometimes it's like, wow, that was funny. He fell and hurt himself. He busted his ass. But then the things that you can see on the internet, on

Instagram now, some of these things you're like, I don't want to watch that. You know what I mean? This is harmless. Him crushing his nuts on a rail is harmless to me. Do you wince when you watch someone get their nuts hurt? I feel a pain in my genitals whenever I see anyone get hurt.

It's like a quick pain. I don't know if women understand this. Not to say that it doesn't hurt when they hurt their groins, but men have a physical reaction when you see someone hurt their nuts where you – I kind of grab mine if I'm alone and I'm allowed to and just make sure that they're okay. No, I – this happens to me if I see anyone get hurt ever, dude, ever. If anyone ever gets – I'm talking particularly a testicle moment like this episode he's he lands

on a on a railing he's skateboarding and he lands on the railing on his nuts and it depends on how watch it depends on how unsuspected it is you know what i mean like we knew watching this that the kid's gonna crush his nuts so i didn't necessarily flinch as hard as if i were watching something and out of nowhere somebody gets pummeled in the the, in the, in the balls. That's when I'm like, Oh my God. And I, and I flinch and I feel that sharp pain in my testes from it. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I, I clutched my balls when I saw this kid fall over and over and over again. I thought that she was hilarious. Now, when she walks in and does her slow motion sexy walk-in,

you cut to a fantasy, and it's me and Deontay Gordon, who's Donald Standen, who's often in the background, is next to me, and he's wearing puka shells. Did you notice that? I did. Do you remember when Deontay used to wear puka shells? No, but that's hilarious. I mean, I haven't seen someone wear puka shells since I was a child, and I didn't really notice that Deontay was walking around the scrub set wearing puka shells. This was also 20 years ago, bud. But still, puka shells were not in in 2002. I'm sure they were because Deontay has one around his neck.

No, I think even at the time. And it's like a choker, too. It's not like they hung low. It's choking him down. It's like, you know how the women had this style a few years ago where they're all wearing the tight chokers around their neck. Yeah. What was the purpose of that? Can we what was what was chokers look awesome?

There's no. No, they look awesome all the time in Victorian times when they were hitting in the 80s and the 90s. Now, chokers. I don't know. It just looks weird to have a black ribbon around your neck. Are you ready? They're going to fall off when they take them off? Well, they're gone again, Joelle, right? The fad was strong for a couple of years.

Now I feel like it's gone again. The punk princesses are holding on strong. I love them. Rock on, girls. Yeah, I'm not seeing it on Vogue anymore or anything like that, though. No. And I would say Puka shells, yes, early 2000s because the oc was around and those boys had oh maybe dionte was inspired by the oc dionte is from california dionte went to school in oc type of high school type situation yeah man

so he wanted to be and then he went to i think d then he went to, I think Deontay went to like UC Santa Barbara or something like that, one of the party schools. UC, one of those UC party schools. Well, all I know is it's a very funny sight watching Deontay wearing a puka shell choker. Yeah. Hilarious. And then the corpse sitting up because of how hot Heather Locklear is. That was funny.

And she rubs his head through the body bag. Yeah. And then I give a little, like, that's a gif I see a lot, is that moment where she, like, blows a kiss, and I do a little, like, kiss to her. Is that a? Yeah, I'm going to send you that gif after we get off the podcast. Right on.

It's a funny one. But, yeah, so Deontay andte and puka shells his face is really funny too yeah if you if you guys are watching this go to go around uh 206 and you'll see uh this moment it's really really funny and then threesome talk carla is very into a threesome if it's with heather locklear right but she's kind of talking smack because she doesn't know that you're going to go and try and... She says, she's like, oh, you know, yeah, if it's with someone like her, I'll do it. And then she doesn't know that you're like,

and you go try and chat Heather up. Right. The new title sequence is back and I saw on Wiki, Scrubs Wiki, that it's the last time it's ever seen. So for those of you who love it and liked it, this is the last episode it's ever seen. So for those of you who love it and liked it, this is the last episode it's ever seen,

and then it's retired forever. I thought that there's another change to the title at some point where it just goes Superman. No Superman. Yeah. Eventually what happens, every season they kept cutting the amount of show back to put in more advertiser time. And so then it became like, well, we don't have time for all of this whole title sequence.

So then it was just like, I'm no Superman. And that was it. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, another thing I read on Scrubs Wiki, interestingly, was that this episode when it first aired was a supersized one. So it was 10 minutes longer. Remember that NBC at the time was doing some supersized episodes. Right.

They still do that. Well, there's 10 minutes of the show that aren't on the one I watched that were on when it aired. So God knows what those 10 minutes were. Oh, so there's a show missing. Yeah, well, I watched it on iTunes. You watched it on Hulu? Yeah.

Well, I think it was 24 minutes or something. But there's a 34-minute version of this episode somewhere. Oh, wow. I wonder if that's on the DVDs or not. Probably is. That I don't know. I like when I try and hit on her at 3.33. I'm like...

She goes, I'm Julie. I go, were you named after a Jewel? E? He's so bad at hitting on women, this guy. Yeah, well, he's a... You know, he's so bad at hitting on women this guy yeah well he's a you know he's a a nerd yeah he's he's he's this is the it's so charming though you know for a nerd he does get some pretty amazing women yeah he's so charming he's charming he's a charm he's charming and he's a doctor and he's goofy. I'd like to double her in Tondra. Yeah.

But again, in the spirit of flirting, she's like, come grab a pen. And they're like all right above her breast. Yeah. You know, it's all about like, you know, one by one. She works Kelso. She works Dr. Cox. She works you with the steak that you eat. Makes you sick. Yeah. Oh's working. She works you with the steak that you eat. Makes you sick.

Oh, man. Have you ever had a turf and turf night? We go steak night. We used to go steak night all the time. We used to legitimately go steak night, but now I'm a pescatarian. We can no longer go steak night. This is where steak night kind of started. This is where we learned Turk loves steak. Yes, you

really love steak. Turf and turf. Turf and turf. You know, until this episode, I had no idea what surf and turf meant. That's when you have a lobster with you, or is it any fish or just lobster? I believe it's any fish, anything in the sea. Yeah. And does that mean it could be any food that eats grass? Good question. I assumed it was always steak. You know, I grew up kosher, so I never had lobster and stuff like that, shellfish, until I was like 14, 15 years old. Do you want to tell them that story? Which one?

After your bat mitzvah. Oh, my bar mitzvah. Bat mitzvah is for a girl. Bar mitzvah. Oh, your bar mitzvah? Well, my bar mitzvah. Bat mitzvah is for a girl. Bar mitzvah. Oh, your bar mitzvah? Well, my father made us kosher when we were kids. And after my bar mitzvah, after I successfully became a man in the eyes of the Jewish faith, my dad, I said to my father, like, well, if I'm a man, I really don't want to be kosher anymore.

I'd like to make that decision for myself. And he was kind of, his mind was kind of blown. Like, a Jedi mind tricked him. And he was like, okay. And I was like, I couldn't believe it worked. And then from that moment on, I was no longer kosher. But he said outside of the house. I was about to say, there was no way you were bringing, like,

a lobster home from the supermarket. Like, this is no no no if i just sit down the table and start eating like a bacon double cheeseburger no hey you guys eat your food i'm gonna no no no no but his rule was um outside of the house you can eat whatever you want also my parents had gotten divorced and my mom was now um you know living with my stepfather and they weren't kosher. So it was a confusing time for, for us as kids. Like, come on guys, you guys got to get on a unified front here. Like what the hell are we allowed to eat? You know? And, um, and so that's kind of part of it too, you know? So we never, we never had, uh, any kind of shellfish or any pork or any dairy mixed with, uh, meat. And then it was such a bizarre rule.

Like if you, let's say you had meat for dinner, you would have to wait an hour till you could have ice cream. Why? That's part of being the kosher rules. Like is there a specific reason on why that's? Well, back in the day, it was theory about health and eating things that wouldn't make you sick, you know, back in like biblical times.

Right. But now it's just tradition. So, you know, I always was like sitting there being like, oh my God, how long has it been? 45 minutes?

Do you think God, do you think God is going to be pissed if I have the ice cream like 15 early? But, you know, it's just like anything. Would you say shit like that when you

were a kid to your parents no i mean are you kidding me i was afraid of my dad i wasn't saying anything like that but i mean i in my mind i was thinking like this is crazy even as a kid like this is crazy god does not care about this that's how i felt that's how i felt, Donald. That's all good. So let's go back to I'd like to double her entendre. Yeah. The Todd. Yeah. I'd like to double her entendre. That might be.

I still use that shit to this day. It's a double entendre. I'd like to double her entendre. It's not as good as. Are you going to turn everything into sexual innuendo? In your endo. In your endo. Yeah. The Todd is pretty funny in this episode,

although it's a little creepy that he's planning to hide out and watch you have sex with Judy. No, he was in the break room. He was in the room sleeping already. He wasn't hiding out. He was already in there. Oh, I was under the impression that he was like, he figured out that you guys were going to have sex.

And so he was like hanging out in the top bunk. No, no, no, no. He went into that. He went in there to be the Todd and do whatever the Todd. That's a good ask Rob question. How come the Todd is always in the break room when something's something's about to jump off. The Todd does take a lot of naps, I have to say. He does, right?

There's an episode where Todd says, sometimes when I'm banging this mattress, I'm thinking about banging that one. The one underneath. So we know that Todd likes to hump the mattresses in the break room. Right. So I think we should ask Rob, why is Todd always in the break room alone? Well, between all the surgical enhancements and rejuvenations, the Todd needs a little cat nap to cut down on recovery time between operating sessions. I've been told I'm a bit of a sleep

humber though. Sometimes when I'm banging the top mattress, I'm thinking about banging the bottom one. Thank you. Thank you bottom one. Thank you, Rob. Thank you, Rob. And just to give Rob a plug, if you guys want, you can hire him on Cameo. Go on that app, and you can hire Rob to say anything. Pretty much. Yeah, within reason. Right.

And you can send your friends a Rob video of him saying funny stuff. These are great ideas for birthday presents. If you have friends that are diehard Scrubs fans and love the Todd, here's a way for you to get the Todd to deliver some sort of five and a funny anecdote. And, you know, I haven't really been on the cameo too much, but I like the idea of hiring people I like to say funny things. Yeah, that's great.

Donald and I are not on there, but we want you to put all of your Scrubs love in to Rob. Get Rob to say funny things. I think I might hire Rob to send you a message, Donald. Okay, yeah, sure. I mean, it would be well received. But maybe with you I should hire Rob to send you a message, Donald. Okay, yeah, sure. I mean, it would be well received. I will receive it. But maybe with you I should hire a basketball player

because they have a lot of sports athletes on there, and I could get you one. If you could get anyone to send me a message, I would love a message from Tracy Morgan. I don't know if he's – I bet he's not on camera. He's got a zillion dollars now, especially since his settlement. I'm – if you could get Tracy Morgan to hit me up as Brian Fellows. You did it once in your life.

You had Tracy Morgan. What did I do? Oh, that's right. I did. Because you know I'm a huge Tracy Morgan fan, right? And you know how much I love Brian Fellows. I'm Brian Fellows. Right.

And it was just after, I think one of the best Tracy Morgan Saturday Night Lives is when Britney Spears hosted. That made no sense, but it was so funny. But he's so funny on that episode. Anyway, Rob Macchio's on Cameo, guys. We're going to break. Let me ride my... If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. We can kiss every woman's face goodbye.

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bye I love how Rob seems to write out his thing like I thought he was just gonna like you know just answer it I love how Rob seems to write out his thing. Like, I thought he was just going to, like, you know, just answer it. But it seems very prepared, and he writes them out. And he runs the line. He puts his time in.

He runs his line. He runs his line. Is there a guest here, Daniel? Yes, they are. Yeah. Let him in? Yeah. All ready? Yeah, bring in the guests.

Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Devin! Devin! How are you, man? Hey, I'm doing well. What about yourself? We're chilling, you know, making it happen like everybody else, trying to at least. Chilling like a villain, Donald? Don't you say that?

Chilling like a villain? I don't ever say chilling like a villain, you fucking tool. Devin, do you see how I'm addressed? Do you see how I'm talked to? Well, you made the dumbest remark and said, do you say chilling like a villain, Donald? Who the fuck says chilling like a villain? Devin, do you follow sports and basketball in particular at all?

I do, yes. And who's your favorite team? I'm a Dallas Mavericks fan. Oh, see, you're lucky, man. You've won a ring. You guys stole Porzingis from us. Are you coming from Dallas right now? Are you hitting us up from Dallas right now? I'm not actually. I'm one of those weird Dallas Mavericks fans. I'm originally from Pennsylvania and I'm in Virginia

now. I became a Dallas Mavericks fan because Dirk. I lost a bet in junior high school and so I had to take German as my foreign language. And I ended up sticking with it. And I majored in it in college. But my dad wasn't a big basketball fan. He was a big baseball guy. And so I kind of had free reign to pick my team. And I always loved picking, you know, underdogs. And the Mavs kind of had, you know, pretty good squads leading up to that championship team, but nothing fully came together up until 2011. And so I, you know, picked Dirk and I, Mark Cuban seems like a pretty cool guy. Hard to dislike a lot of what he's doing.

I like Mark Cuban. Yeah. I don't know anything about sports, but I like Mark Cuban. Devin, do you have a question for us about anything? It doesn't have to be about scrubs it could be about anything yeah absolutely i i you know prepared a couple um i'm lucky enough to know john putch who directed a couple episodes i think starting at the tail end of season five yeah great guy um he grew up in the the same town i did and frequented the restaurant my mom owned um he

actually filmed one of his movies partially in that restaurant and I got to be an extra. So I got to meet him through that. And I know you both have talked a lot about what different directors brought, especially in the early couple of episodes. So for someone like John, you know, where end of season five you guys i think had already done 120 ish episodes give or take um what was it like you know coming in as a new director how and and you know zach you kind of you got to direct your own couple of episodes for a show that kind of had its voice it had its style how did you balance that with your own personal styles? That's a good question. Someone like that is in a tough place because they're coming into a machine

five seasons in that's so well-oiled. You know, we really all, we crank them out. You know, by the time you come to five seasons, everybody knows what they're doing. Everybody knows their characters. And a director that's coming in brand new, they just got to make sure that they go with the flow. A director like John would still want to come in and add his own spin and add his own flair and come up with cool shots and have suggestions, but you don't want him coming in and trying to change the style at all and going in and doing something out of the norm. Well, someone like him would really have to know the show, really have watched a lot of episodes. A lot of times what they'll do is come and hang out on the set and watch somebody else direct. So they just kind of, not only gives

you a chance to meet everyone and kind of shoot the shit a bit, but also you get the sense of like everyone's vibe. Like, Ooh, I see that Johnny C doesn't like to do more than that many takes. I'm going to just make a mental note of that. And Ooh, I see that, um, Donald never knows his lines. Okay, good. Let me memorize that. So you kind of, kind of come to the set and get the feel of everything. So then when you, when you, when you're all of a sudden, because like, like I said before, it's such a bizarre job to be like, Hey everyone, nice to meet you. Um, I know you guys have been working together for five years. Um, I'm the boss this week. You know, it's such a weird, a weird way to, to, to create stuff, but it is kind of how it works. A little trivia for you.

Do you know who John Pudge's mother is? John Pudge's mother is Jean Stapleton, who was Edith Bunker on the classic show All in the Family. Those were the days. And you knew who you were. I can't hit that note. Men were men and girls were men. No, no. Men were men and girls were men.

We could only use another Humphrey Hoover again. Herbert Hoover again. Didn't I know about that? Everybody pulled his weight. Gee, our old LaSalle worked great. Those were the days. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Sorry for your ears. She was a fantastic actress. And John Putsch's mother. A little bit of trivia for you. I'll say this. When John came in, it felt like he was already, he really blended in very well with us. Yeah. And I think that's why he came back for so many more episodes.

He was also very fast. Yeah. That was another thing he was. He totally got the show, and he got us also. Yeah. Zach, have you guys ever worked together other than? We text sometimes, and we shoot the shit. He listens to the podcast.

So hi, John. Thank you for listening. What's up, John? And we'll have him on. I told him we'll have him on when the time comes. I would love to have him on the shit. He listens to the podcast. So hi, John. Thank you for listening. What's up, John? And we'll have him on. I told him we'll have him on when the time comes. I would love to have him on the show. If we really keep this thing going for five seasons. He's directed so much television as well.

We had Michael Spiller on who's directed quite a bit of television. John Pudge is another person who is a well-seasoned director. Yeah. I don't know what he's directing now. I'll look it up. Well, nobody's directing anything right now. Well. I don't know what he's directing now. I'll look it up. Well, nobody's directing anything right now. Well, I'm saying pre-Quarantizzle. He was doing some,

I think it was American Housewife, I believe. Oh, great. Yeah, Dietrich Bader. Love that guy. You have another question for us? Yeah, absolutely. So I think Scrubs means a lot to me because it was one of the first times

I saw a show reflect a part of me that isn't just very outward facing. I grew up and I had epilepsy and there's an episode where Dr. Cox treats a patient who has epilepsy. the conceit is she doesn't want to take her medicine or isn't taking her medicine because she struggles with letting the epilepsy define her and prevent her from being a normal teenage girl. And I was younger than her when I was dealing a lot with it, but it was the first time I really remember seeing a part of myself on a TV show and feeling like, wow, that's very core to my identity. So for both of you, when was the first time either of you saw yourself reflected in that way, if ever? Good question. You go first, Donald.

You mean in television shows when we were growing up? Is that what you mean? Yeah, I mean, it could be growing up. It could have been a while, and it could be more present day, whatever. Well, I looked at it a little bit different i didn't see myself in a lot of in a lot of television uh growing up uh mainly because there weren't a lot of african-american people on television you know what i mean uh so seeing somebody who was like me was very hard to come by you know people I looked like Todd Bridges when I was a kid, but I had nothing in common really with what Willis and Arnold went through in different

strokes. It wasn't until A Different World came out and I was in, I guess it was my freshman year in high school and Dwayne Wayne, Dwayne Wayne came on television, played by Kadeem Hardison. And he was the one that had the flip up glasses and he was so in love with Denise from the Cosby show, Lisa Bonet. He was so in love with that character. And I felt like that's who I, I'm, I'm that guy. That's, he had a bunch of energy. He was really charismatic and girls looked at at him not necessarily as the hot guy.

They looked at him as the friend. And I was drawn to Dwayne Wayne, so much so that I bought the glasses. You did? You wore the flip-up glasses? I would wear the flip-up. Now, remember, I went to the professional children's school. So there's me and maybe three other black kids and the four other black kids in the school or in the upper school at the time, in the high school at the time. And so- Are you all wearing them?

Are you all wearing them? No, I would wear the glasses. And I'm sure these guys were like, this motherfucker came up in here with the fucking Dwayne Wayne glasses. It's a funnier story if all four of you are walking around wearing them. Yeah, anyway. So Dwayne Wayne, Kadeem Hardison, when he showed up, he had such an impact on my life because I felt like I was looking at myself that he was, at one point, he was one of my favorite actors in the world. So if he was in a movie like White Men Can't Jump, Vampire in Brooklyn, School Days, the list goes on. He was in quite a few things when I was younger.

I would gravitate towards his character as the best character in those projects. I was really drawn to Anthony Michael Hall, I was just thinking. Everything he played when he was young was how I felt. I felt like this sort of nerdy kid who, you know, who could make people laugh and was, you know, I made friends by being a class clown, you know. And so a lot of the parts, whether it was, you know, Weird Science or 16 Candles or Breakfast Club, I really related to him in those movies. I really wanted to be Ferris Bueller more than anything. Like when I saw Ferris Bueller's Day Off, I was like, man, I wish I was that cool. Like I wanted to be Ferris.

And John Cusack in Say Anything. I wanted to be him. All of those movies are big parts of my youth. Say Anything, freaking 16 Candles, Weird weird science uh you know the list goes on all those john hughes movies were huge for me the only problem i had with them was that there were no black people in it right you know what i mean but those movies like you know a lot of the music that a lot of the songs, I didn't even know all of the words to the songs, but I knew, you know,

when Lloyd did, you should, what is it? What's the song that he did? Stop. Wait a minute. I knew he was saying, yeah. Is that what that is? You should let me know. No, that's a little, that's a Mario. These just ain't words that I'm spitting. I knew that he sampled. I know this must be true. Right.

Much is true. And he goes. She's fun, but I want you. And nobody knew what that shit was from. But because of my love of all of these John Hughes movies and stuff, I knew where they sampled that from. I used to love that. It's called Hugh. Huh?

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Bye- Bye. Bye. DJ K.O. Do you have another one? Do you have another one? Another one. Another one. I do have another one. So Zach got a lot of flack for having not seen Remember the Titans up until a couple weeks ago.

Yeah, right. So I've been thinking a lot about some of Zach's filmography. Donald, I know you have some kids. Have you seen Chicken Little? Yes. Okay. I went to the premiere of Chicken Little. Did you really?

I did. That's awesome. A lot of people will be surprised, Devin. They don't know that I'm the voice of Chicken Little. Here's the thing. Here's the thing, Devin. They don't know that I'm the voice of Chicken Little. Here's the thing. Here's the thing, Devin. You can name pretty much any movie Zach's been in. I've seen it.

That's not true. Okay. What's the one you did with Michael Weston? We've spoken about this. The Last Kiss. You liked that one. No, there's another one that you two did together way before you were ever J.D. Getting to Know You.

Who was the other who was the other moderato yeah she was in that i've seen that movie uh he also he also did a movie called the broken hearts club yep broken heart in that movie seen that movie yeah uh he also did uh look we could go down his whole resume i promise you i've seen everything. I didn't read Garden State, but I'm not a strong reader. I did read... I did... Did you see Going in Style? What?

I guess. I've seen... You didn't watch Going in Style? For real? I've now watched Going in Style. I did not see it in the theaters, though. Wow, that's fucked up, dude. No, it's not. It's the truth, though. That's my first big studio movie I directed. You didn't go see it? No,

your first big movie you directed was Garden State. No, I'm saying my first, it was my first and only so far studio movie I've directed. And I directed these three living legends. You couldn't fucking find the time to go to the theater? See, this is what I'm talking about.

Devin, you just started some fucking beef. I've seen the movie though. Yeah, because you fucking rented it. I mean, if you're, if you're my best friend, you could started some fucking beef. I've seen the movie, though. Yeah, because you fucking rented it. I mean, if you're my best friend, you could have fucking taken the kid. Do you want me to start naming my movies and what movies you've watched? I know your movies.

So then shut the fuck up with this crap, dude. Nobody wants to hear. I'm blowing out the mic. That's how loud I'm getting right now. Let me turn it down a little bit. Do you want to start this shit? Do you really want to start this shit? Do you want to start this shit about how you really want to start this shit? Do you want to start this shit about how

I've not seen going in style in theaters? I can name movie after movie after movie that I've been in that you've never seen in your life, dude. I've seen them. I saw Juice in the theater. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. No, you didn't. You did not see Juice in the theater. I did. I did, although it's cheating.

It was in a screening room at the Tribeca Film Center. I was an intern there, and they invited me to see Juice. And I quite liked it. You're full of shit, dude. You know I know you're full of shit? I was in high school. I was a freshman. I was ninth grade when Juice came out.

Oh no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Shut the fuck up, dude. Can I defend myself? I was thinking of Fresh. Are you in Fresh? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I misspoke. Shut the fuck up, dude. No, but can I defend myself? I was thinking of Fresh. Are you in Fresh? I'm not in Fresh, dude. Oh, Fresh is good. Fresh is good.

Have you guys seen Fresh? It's a very underrated movie. Dude, Fresh is very good. Directed by Boaz Yakin, who also directed Remember the Titans, dude. Never seen that. Joel, have you seen Fresh? No, I haven't. Very good.

I want our listeners to go see Fresh. Directed by Boaz Yakin, who also directed Remember the Titans. Now, was that Boaz's first film? I think it may have been. I think Price Above Rubies was his first. It's one of those. It's either that one or Fresh. I think one of those.

He's really a talented guy. He's very talented. What has he made lately? Has he made anything lately that's- He's written a lot of the hostiles. He a lot of the dusk till dawns like he's gone up a little bit he's more he's changed he switched it up a little bit he's more comic book uh got it horror now well Devin thank you for starting this fight um we've got to get sorry no it's all right I know you had good intentions and you were trying to make me you were trying to throw me under the

bus you know what I know what you were trying to do, but you fucked up, Devin. You fucked up. Devin, I was going to send you a message from one of those guys, but now you don't get it. Now it's over. I don't even know what their names are, but you were going to get one from – No GTs, kombucha for you, Devin. No, no GTs. He's been banned.

All right, buddy. Thank you for coming on. We appreciate you. Thank you, brother. Thank you both so much. Bye. Sorry. He's been banned. All right, buddy. Thank you for coming on. We appreciate you. Thank you, brother. Thank you both so much. Bye. Donald, you know what I laugh at?

This whole bit with you giving Judy a bus pass. Did I say bus pass? That was very funny. Did I say not just a nurse? Right. I love the fact that that's where Turk is. He's that invested in his relationship that he's like, I know my girlfriend could be

doing so much better than she is right now and if I'm in the way, I want to get out of the way and help her achieve whatever it is that she wants to achieve. Being Turk, he just says it wrong. I want you to feel like more than just a nurse.

Just a nurse? Did I say just a nurse. Just a nurse? Did I say just a nurse? Well, he means well, but he keeps putting his foot in his mouth. And she's saying, I love my job. I love what I do. Why are people making... I'm sure a lot of nurses, I would imagine,

feel this like it's such an honor to be a nurse. It's so hard to become a nurse. And someone's saying something with the attitude of you're just a nurse. They're so hard to become a nurse. And someone's like saying, you know, it's something with the attitude of you're just a nurse. They're like, what? How fucking dare you? Do you see,

you know, Carla's like, do you see the pride that I have in what I do? Right. And I really liked that. I thought she was, she was really good

in this episode. Oh, she crushes, well, she, you know, Judy crushes every episode. Elliot acknowledges JD's staring off into space. Yeah, she does. In this episode. There's a funny moment where she says uh you're always staring off to space and i start to start and then i go

i don't stare off into space like this and then i go right into staring off into space that was yeah that's but uh yeah i mean i i don't i how does how does one get away with daydreaming in front of someone when they're talking? Well, it's exaggerated for this show, but we're all doing that. How many times are you talking to someone, you see them staring off, and then you go, hello? You kind of wave your hand in front of their face. I do it to my wife all the time, where my wife is talking to me and I'm just not there. Yeah.

And she'll be like, did you hear what I said? And I'll be like, yeah. And she'll be like, repeat what I said. And I'll just repeat the last thing I remember her saying. Right. But you were still zoned out And I'll be like, yeah. And she'll be like, repeat what I said, not just repeat the last thing I remember her saying. Right. But you were still zoned out. I was not there listening. I laughed out loud when Kelso goes, it's not because I got the name Johnny tattooed on my butt.

He's an old sailor, buddy. And if you knew what we went through, you'd understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We should talk about the bungee jumping thing, which we've mentioned on this podcast before. But two things. I noticed this time that you can clearly see that Sarah and I are safety lines to the bridge and aren't going anywhere from this bungee jump. Right. If you pause it, you'll see that there's a stunt line that ties us to the bridge.

So we're not going to accidentally fall off. And then you can also see my mic right under my collar. There's a big puffy thing that's my microphone so there's two a little annoying wiki scrubs wiki things yeah and um and so we didn't do this jump and the two stunt people who did it met this day and then got married they fell in love in this moment when they jumped off the bridge together. And are no longer married now. Yeah. Now we learn the sad part of the story that they got divorced. But it is pretty romantic that they met this way, at least married for a little while.

Yeah, absolutely. Just to go back a little bit, I really thought that was really great of Elliot. She's always being rescued in these shows by you you're always you know what i mean and this is the one time where your i told you so backfires on you and and and yeah she definitely you know uh razzes you a little bit for it but in the end she's such a good friend she's like you know we all need need to – just like I was saying from the beginning when I did the recap, we all need to take chances is what Elliot's saying. And here's one that's perfect for us. This is going to scare the shit out of you. We're going to jump off of a bridge together, but I'll be there with you.

be there with you. I think that's, I think it's an important life lesson that the show tells people is the importance of not just sitting on the stands of, of getting on the court, as they say, and participating and playing big. And these are a lot of life lessons my father used to give me about being brave and making bold choices and swinging for the fences and asking the question, you're positive someone's going to say no to, but like just going for it, putting yourself out there over and over and over again and reaping the rewards when you very often get good results from it. Yeah. And JD's not of that, you know, when we start off, JD's a let's wait and see type of person. And it's true, you know, Let's wait and see only gets you to seeing what happens. It doesn't necessarily make it so that you're in control of anything that happens.

And certainly nothing exciting and new is going to happen that way. Nothing that's going to change your life. You can't just sit back and wait for life to happen to you. You have to seize the day. Carpe diem they as they say in dead poet society yeah seize the day oh captain my captain um um i wanted to point out lastly that i was surprised to know this far in it's very clear that cox is still pining for carlo you think so oh yeah dude he doesn't go uh with heather locklear's character

even though heather locklear is literally hitting on him and he's single and she's single and she's sitting provocatively on the front of his car and he doesn't go with her and then uh and and then you see him kind of staring at at judy and being, you know, I think it's pretty clear to me and my interpretation was that he's still sort of pining over her. And when she talks about her love for you, he then has a second thought about it. I don't think so. I think I disagree. I think he I'm sure there are still feelings for Carla. Cox still has feelings for Carla, but I think he's put him aside because even at the dinner when she's like, I love the fact that I'm at this dinner right now.

My boyfriend's trying to eat his weight and meat. He's bought his best friend with him. You know, and Dr. Cox wants something that's not on the menu, wants to eat something that's not on the menu, something like that. And she's talking about Heather, and then he turns around and he's like, what? He's, because he wasn't paying attention, he was staring at Heather Locklear's character.

That wasn't my interpretation. My interpretation is that he's, he goes and has a heart-to-heart with her. When you're lying on the bed because your stomach hurts in the hospital, they have like a bit of a heart-to-heart and you're talking about how much you, she's talking about how much she loves you.

And then he kind of looks, he looks sad for a minute. Like if you look at 2237, he's got this sad look on his face that to me reads, I really need to let this go. This woman's in love with Turk. I don't know why i'm still pining for her um fuck it i'm gonna go meet heather at the bar and and maybe have a one-night stand who knows but but i i have to start moving on i didn't see it as that

i saw it as a friend who and i don't we could dead this after this but I saw it as a friend who listened to what was said. Turk went ahead and tried to get her involved in a program that would grant her more power at the hospital. And Cox is like, dude, why don't you fucking take your boyfriend up on that offer? You'd crush that shit. You'd be really good at it. And she's like, of course I'd be good at it. I know I'd be good at it. I take pride in my job.

And the time that would be needed for me to crush all of this would be time away from Turk. And I don't want time away from Turk. Well, it's up for interpretation. And if you're listening to this, you probably have your own opinion. Or if you don't remember, you can go back and check it out. That's it. Thank you for listening, everybody. Don't forget to get the ringtones because everybody needs a ringtone.

Everyone needs Donald going, mm-hmm, as your notification. That right there is what I'm talking about. Yes. Another one. That's what I'm talking about. Another one. That's what I'm talking about yes another one that's what i'm talking about that's that's what i'm talking about yeah another one we could just donald and i could just make up uh notification ideas for people's phones all day long we should put this out there do you want that's what i'm talking about as a ringtone i can yes that's what i'm talking about and you know what i mean as a ringtone no what i mean imagine your phone And you know what I mean. As a ringtone. Know what I mean.

Imagine your phone going, you know what I mean? Know what I mean. You know what I mean? We're just going to keep putting out ringtones. You know? Or imagine your phone going, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.

Okay. How could that not get annoying? Yeah. Annoying in a good way. Thank you, everybody, for listening. We love you. We love you. We appreciate you. You can try and ask a question by emailing Joelle at scrubsiheart at gmail.com.

Joelle is very popular on there, I imagine. Joelle, people try and bribe you like the pharmaceutical reps. They say, let me buy you sushi. I've had three proposals so there you go it's very popping oh yeah well when's the last time you had sushi speaking of sushi i had sushi uh two nights ago i'll say about a week and a half ago my god host mates y'all don't like y'all like warm sushi it doesn't come no it doesn't come warm daniel you agree with this i mean i'll say this i'm very lucky i very lucky. I live very close to a sugarfish, so I'm more or less walking distance.

Oh, so you could just get that box. Yeah, just get that box. Get that box. All right, guys. We love you. Be safe. Wear a mask. Be kind.

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