Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 213: My Philosophy

Episode Date: August 18, 2020

On this week's episode JD learns to how to let one of his favorite patients go. In the real world, Zach and Donald discuss all the behind the scenes goodness of their first fantasy musical moment on S...crubs. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 This past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people, like jazz bassist Christian McBride. Jazz is based on improvisation, but there's very much a form to it. You have a conversation based on that melody and those chord changes. So it's kind of like giving someone a topic and say, OK, talk about this. Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:09 That's real? Yeah, Joel called it a firefighter dad mustache. It doesn't look like a firefighter dad mustache. It looks a little gay pornish, though. I'm not going to lie. Hey, I'll take either one. Both styles. Listen.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Very sexy. I'm sure there's firefighter dad gay porn. Dude, I'm willing to bet money that there's a firefighter dad gay porn thing out there somewhere. What do you think of it? Listen, I tried to grow a full beard like yours. It didn't work out so well, and I decided to try this for a while. I think you look handsome as always. I ran down the ramp.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I think you look handsome as always. I ran down the ramp. By the way, I had this Pavlovian response now that I'm dialing into the Zoom call for this podcast, and I just start humming, I ran down the ramp. What's up, Joel? What's up, Daniel? How's it going, y'all? How's it going? Hi, team. Hi, hi, hi, everybody. I feel like we haven't seen each other in a really long time.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I know. It's good to have you. Welcome to the broadcast, ladies and gentlemen. For the very first time in Fake Doctors, Real Friends, I've decided to join the spirit of Donald Faison and have a little rosé. Oh, nice. I want to go downstairs and get me a drink now. Can we take a second to do that? Why do you need to go down and get a drink right now?
Starting point is 00:03:24 I guess if you want a party. Because I want to sip something with you. But you're going to ruin my momentum. I'm on fire right now. Okay, well, then if you're on fire, I'm going to let you go. I'm going to let you go. Why don't we take a break? When we take a break, you can run down.
Starting point is 00:03:35 When we take a break, I'll run down. Yeah, so I thought I'd phase on out a little and treat myself. Treat yourself. Treat yourself. I mean, I know it's not bourbon. It's rosé. I was going to go down and get a little, you know, Allagash.
Starting point is 00:03:52 They make a triple now. This shit was so expensive, first of all. I spent $21 on a bottle of beer. I've never spent that much money on beer in my life. I didn't even know beer could cost $21. Ridiculous, right? But apparently it's been aged in
Starting point is 00:04:09 bourbon barrels. Three times! Yes. Three times! It's old beer. It's so old. Dude! Yeah, baby. I miss you. I miss you so much it hurts sometimes.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I want to tell you something right now. Go ahead. I cried in this episode. Yeah, it's very moving at the end. I cried like a baby. It's very moving in the end, yeah. It's a good episode. It's a great episode written by Bill Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:04:42 They are in the zone, the writers, and not to minimize the They are in the zone, the writers, and not to minimize the brilliant work of the cast, but I feel the writers are really in the zone in this section of season two because they're all really good. I'm going to agree with you. We had this conversation with Johnny. We're getting toward the end of the
Starting point is 00:04:57 season now, and look at how we're all starting to click. Everything's starting to click. You know what I mean? It's really amazing. And this was the very first time they ever introduced, am I right? Or does the West Side Story thing happen already? Was that season one?
Starting point is 00:05:13 That was season one. Okay. So other than the West Side Story thing, so I guess technically the second, but this is the first time we enter, well, I guess we could say this is the first time we introduced a musical element that was dramatic. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Because that was so broad and silly. Right. I guess so. I mean, I guess we could count Sam and Judy's. Okay. You're right. You know what I mean? But they were sort of serenading.
Starting point is 00:05:38 This was a fantasy of going into Jill Tracy's death fantasy that dying was like a broadway musical dude i cried so hard and a lot of goosebumps i got goosebumps i'm getting goosebumps right now talking about it but i when it happened i got goosebumps on every inch of my body that's how powerful it was it's such a strong moment and maybe it's because of you know nick maybe it's because of amanda you know maybe i don't know but it just put me in a like i'm i was weeping weeping do you think that do you think that the climate of of covid and of course losing our friend has made you overall um more emotional to things uh i definitely you know i okay so here's the thing about here's the thing about what covet has done uh and and we haven't seen anything like this and i don't even think when aids happened it was like this like people had months to live when aids came
Starting point is 00:06:41 around back and when we were kids but also we were so young we didn't really comprehend aids when it was first going everywhere this is like we're 45 and 46 like i think we have such a more of awareness of it you know what i mean right absolutely absolutely and you know people that you thought you'd have more time with are now gone you know what i mean like you know when nick was here we didn't hang out that much we hung out a little bit but we didn't hang out that much and we were you were just you were just kind of getting to know him getting to know him you know what i mean and i i guess i want to say i took that for granted i took for granted that he would be around for a while and that we would have way more time to become tighter.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Because I knew that you and him were very close. And when you're very close to someone, it becomes, for me, it's like, all right, if Zach's close to this person, this person has to be a cool person. So let me go and get to know this person. So Nick and I were on the verge of becoming closer, and then he was gone. And when I watched this episode, that's what this reminded me of. We take so many things for granted.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I'm also always moved by bravery in the face of death. My father, when he was dying, I remember him turning to my stepmother when he got the diagnosis that he had cancer and he said, we're going to, we're going to deal with this with dignity. And, and I think that Nick, I'm not sure how conscious he was. I don't even know if he knew what was going on past a certain point. I have no idea. But I was very moved in this episode, too, about what it's about is someone who's facing their death with pride and dignity and strength and not being afraid. And I just, I think that, you know, I guess what we're both saying is in this, it kind of caught us both off guard that we're watching this network comedy that we were both in. And usually we sit around talking about laughs and what made us laugh in each moment and the funny fantasies. And then this was very moving because of the death that's in the air, both globally and in particular in our lives with Nick.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Dude, that's exactly what it is. And I don't know, man. I, you know, it just made me realize how many things in life I've taken for granted. And, you know, I tried, you know, since Nick passed, I try every day to tell, you know, if we talk, I try to tell you, you know, before we hang up, I always try to tell you I love you. You know what I mean? When we're on this call right now, when we do this Zoom while we're recording our podcast, fake doctors, real friends. You don't have to give a plug to the people that are listening.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Oh, okay. I just thought I should plug someone. It's sort of a fool's errand, you know. Okay. But, you know, just in I should plug someone. It's sort of a fool's errand, you know? Okay. But, you know, just in case they forgot what they were listening to. Yeah. But we say I love you to each other, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:54 I've never met Joelle in person, and I love her. And I tell her I love her. Before we hang up, I tell her I love her. I tell Dan the same thing. And, you know, throw COVID out of the situation. Let's just talk about life in general. Nothing's promised. Tomorrow's not promised, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:13 The next hour's not promised. But I think it's important that we tell our loved ones and the people that mean so much to us how we feel about them. Yeah. And because, one we feel about them. Yeah. And because one, it could, it makes them feel wonderful. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Oh, you know, to be loved by somebody feels good. Am I wrong? Yeah. It feels good. And it doesn't cost you anything to profess your love. No.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It doesn't cost, it doesn't cost, I feel like I'm a Brene Brown right now, but it doesn't, it doesn't cost you as a human being anything to express it. And we shouldn't, I think what you're saying, what I'm getting from what you're saying is we shouldn't be shy or insecure about expressing our love. Absolutely not. Because, of course, when the person dies, you go, oh, my God, I hope that I told them enough times I love.
Starting point is 00:11:03 With my father, you know, he was God, I hope that I told them enough times. With my father, he was 84 and cancer was ramping up. We had plenty of time to be rallying and to be hugging him and kissing him and telling him we love you and clearing up any bullshit. With Nick, it was just like we dropped him off
Starting point is 00:11:19 at the hospital. We didn't get to say anything. Right. I did FaceTime him goodbye, but I have no sense of hospital we didn't we didn't get to say anything right it's great you know i mean i did facetime him goodbye but i don't know i have no sense of i have no sense if he heard any word of it i feel bad these people turned in for a comedic podcast well you know this we're talking about the episode we're keeping it real as they say we're keeping it real as they say we're keeping it real we're talking about the episode let's get into some other things, though, before we start this episode. Dude, okay, so the mayor has said that he will shut off your water in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:11:50 That's funny. He's going to shut your water and power off. Good for him. Fuck you for having a party. Okay, if you throw a party and there's a bunch of people in your house and you've been warned now that the mayor has said,
Starting point is 00:12:04 I will cut off your water. i have a little bit of a problem with this i'm not gonna dude he's trying to come up with some out of the box ideas these people are still throwing fucking parties every day i totally understand that i totally get that shit but when everybody leaves i still need to wash my ass well you shouldn't have thrown a party that motherfucker why did you throw a covid party I still need to wash my ass and I might want to cook something you know what I mean I might be hungry how can
Starting point is 00:12:30 Garcetti our mayor punish you the idiot who threw a covid party he can you know I think the reason with the thing with the fine is people with money are like fuck it I'll pay the fine and he needed to come up with some out of the box way to punish people.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And then what can the government control? Your power and your water. He's like, I'm shutting that shit off. Right. Now, look, some people are mad about this. Some people are P.O.'d about this. Joelle and Daniel, what are your thoughts on this? Don't you think it's kind of a badass out-of-the-box idea?
Starting point is 00:13:01 It feels like the best parental threat that's never going to happen. Like, I'm going to take your door off. You not gonna go down there but the threat might keep me you know in control and my my temper my expectations of what i might be able to get away with so i feel like it's one of those i think a 24-hour power shut off is like a really great like bro don't do that don't do it but it's like a parent human access that makes me feel weird it's like a parent going one i always see donald do that shit with his kids he never gets to three he's like 2.756739. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's not because my kid all of a sudden is like, yo, dude, dad, dad, dad, dad. Okay, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad. Okay, I'm good. It's because I can't – my punishment, I don't want to deliver the punishment. Daniel, say something. Personally, I think the big problem with people throwing parties in LA is that like, it's not, you know, Joe rich person inviting their friends in the neighborhood over to their house. It's like kids who will rent an empty mansion, invite 500 people over. And like, even then they're drinking the 30 racks they brought over and smoking weed in the backyard and then leaving, like turning
Starting point is 00:14:22 off the water and power at that place. Isn't going to do anything. So the poor guy who rented in the house is like, yeah, exactly. He's going to come back. Exactly. I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:33 if it's the kind of thing that's going to end up punishing a whole neighborhood and it's a kind of a group effort to be like, if you fuck this up for everybody in the neighborhood, you're fucked. Then like, that might, that really brings the community. Well, I mean, what I'm saying is like, if you want to make it everybody in the neighborhood, you're fucked. Then like, that might, that really brings the community. Well,
Starting point is 00:14:46 I mean, what I'm saying is like, if you want to make it a punishment, punishment, it's gotta be a punishment punishment. Cause if it's like, just turn off the water to this one place, you're suggesting that he turned off the water for the whole street.
Starting point is 00:14:56 No, I mean like, I don't know. I mean, look, I just, I'm saying it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I don't, I at least, I at least, I at least appreciated. Listen, I love it when someone comes up with an out-of-the-box idea. They're like, look, what the fuck? There was some meeting in City Hall where they were like, does anybody have an out-of-the-box idea?
Starting point is 00:15:15 And then some dude was like, I got an idea. What if we turn off their water and power? I don't know. I don't know, man. It's crazy. It's crazy because people don't give a fuck. As you know. I don't know, man. It's crazy. It's crazy because people don't give a fuck. As you see,
Starting point is 00:15:27 I mean, as you see. Oh, man, you go into the store. There's some bullshit going on where people are like, I'm part of an alliance and we will sue you. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:15:37 You know what I mean? That was a mega, that was like an extra Karen. That was like Karen, that was like a double black diamond Karen. That's uber Karen. That's uber Karen. That's uber Karen. Double black diamond.
Starting point is 00:15:47 She had, this fucking Karen had a fake Karen badge, and she was giving out fake citations to employees of this store that told her to put on a mask. She was like, I'm with the Freedom Alliance, and you will be sued for infringing upon my rights. I mean, the woman made a fucking badge. Yeah. But she's pretending to be a I mean, the woman made a fucking badge. Yeah. But she's pretending to be a federal agent,
Starting point is 00:16:07 which is definitely a crime. That's definitely a crime. That's a felony. You cannot do that. It's just so ridiculous. And what is this poor girl making $6.75 an hour going to do? She's just working, okay? She's stopping us.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I felt so bad. I felt so bad for that girl. She clearly didn't understand if this was legit paperwork or not. She was like, uh, okay. I can get my manager for you. She got her manager. Her manager was like, I don't know. Like the manager of a supermarket is going to know whether, I mean, the woman was clearly fucking bad shit.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I mean, I don't think she was like a federal agent. We're in some strange times, people. Oh, man. Some strange times. And people are just losing their mind but it's okay it's okay it's oh are you sure it's okay i need you to comfort me like you comfort your children listen it's all good at the end of the day as jd says yeah sum it up like JD would. This is gonna, you know what, as a matter of fact, let's do this and then I'll get into my summary of the episode.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Five, six, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made about a bunch of dogs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate. I said here's the stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our
Starting point is 00:17:27 Scrubb's Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. I wanted to say, what you trying to get in? You know, if you say 5, 6, 7, 8, it starts the theme song. But if you say, 1, 2, 3, it goes in. What you trying to get into? What you trying to do? There's been remixes of that song. Such a hit song.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I got a lot of people telling me who are in the music industry that the song is fire. If it only had more than one lyric, it would be a hit. Well, look, man, tell them to write some shit. I'm sure Charlie Puth can write something. Dude's writing $5 foot long commercials now. $5 foot. Hey, listen, let Charlie make his money. $5 foot. Hey, listen. Let Charlie make his money.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Charlie, get that money, baby. Everybody needs a purple Lambo. Right. Right. Of course they do. Isn't that from the Donald Glover song, This is America? Make that money. Make that money.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah. He does say that. He does say that. I love Donald Glover, man. I love Lando Calrissian. From now on, whenever I see Donald Glover. Fill out your fucking Star Wars bingo card, everybody. From now on, whenever I see Donald Glover, he's no longer Childish Gambino. He's now Lando.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I don't give a fuck what he says. The guy really did. I never knew Donald Glover because I didn't watch the show he was on. I didn't watch Community either. Community. And then, I mean, holy shit. I was so naive to the genius of this man. He's a special human being.
Starting point is 00:18:57 He's got talent, man. Reminds me a lot of my best friend, Zach Braff. Oh, so you're saying I'm like a Jewish Donald Glover. Sure. Sure. If you want to put it into, if you want to turn it into a religious thing, yeah, absolutely. You are a Jewish Donald Glover. The screenplay I've written is ready for your reading.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Are you going to read this one? Are there any black people in it? There are some black, excuse me, black African Americans. You can say black. Wait, hold up, we can't say black people? No, I just think it's funny how some people, white people, are nervous. They're not sure if they can say black or African American.
Starting point is 00:19:35 So they start, they end up, they go on like this. No, no, there are some black African Americans. It becomes black African Americans. I think white people are a little confused at first. I say Black or African-American. What's the verdict? I always say Black.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I say Black, but I feel like if I'm being formal, like if I was giving a speech, I would say African-American. But if I'm talking to my two Black friends here, I would say Black. Is that okay? I have no problem with it. Let's get into the breakdown. Episode.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah, let's hear your summary. Okay, so, ready? This episode, you don't need to stop watching anymore because I'm going to try and keep it within 30. Because I'm going to keep it in 30. We know we're going to try and keep it in 30. No, part of my joy, my joy is timing things. Yeah, but you like pressure.
Starting point is 00:20:21 My sister was a competitive swimmer when she was a child and my dad got so into it he was the guy he was the parent who would have the stopwatch around his neck would he be like well show shit you can't that was slower than normal no he would scream at her so much that she said fuck swimming i hate this but um but that's a story for it that's a story for a, that's a rant for a different episode. But no, I enjoy timing you. Okay. Okay, you ready? Get it going.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Go. This episode, Turk is ready for the next step in his relationship with Carla. Elliot's done changing into her scrubs in a co-ed locker room. JB and Cox both realize they make a good team.
Starting point is 00:21:00 That's not what this episode's about. In a hospital, people come and go. Sometimes it's because it's where people work. But often, it's because they're sick and they die. We try so hard to control our destiny. We try
Starting point is 00:21:13 so hard to tip the scale. But things don't work that way. Somehow, life and death always find a way to balance itself out. That's beautiful. I'm not even going to tell you you were four seconds over. That was so good. No, it really is a beautiful episode
Starting point is 00:21:30 because it's got some funny-ass shit in it, and it's got some memorable stuff. I like it when these episodes it's funny, sometimes they have three memorable moments that you like Sarah in the burlesque outfit that you didn't even know were all in the same episode. But I remember doing that burlesque thing sarah do
Starting point is 00:21:47 too yes and uh it's true in uh on scrub's wiki it actually has a true bit of trivia that bill bet her to go in her burlesque outfit um to to the starbucks and get everyone coffee that was the outfit she wore yeah we thought it would be a big deal, but like in Hollywood, no one even like looked twice. Right. Like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:09 That was a moment I always remember. And Rob, Rob looks so funny. You know, some people don't look normal smoking a stogie. A stogie just fits perfectly in Rob's mouth. Doesn't it? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:22:19 no, he looks right. He looks like the guy who, he's like the way he's holding it and like sitting in the front row of the strip club. Right, right, right. I know he's wearing, someone pointed out he's like the way he's holding it and like sitting in the front row of the strip club right I know he's wearing someone pointed out he's wearing black boxers not has been an infamous banana hammock yeah I noticed that too I don't think the
Starting point is 00:22:33 banana hammock was introduced oh no it was introduced cuz he goes yeah it was oh it's hard to believe that I guess that there must this must come from a true story of there being a co-ed locker room in the hospitals but it's I am not a true story of there being a co-ed locker room in the hospital, but I imagine it can't be a true story. I am with Ted on this.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I don't mind a co-ed locker room. Yeah, but don't you think in a co-ed locker room, I imagine, I never think I've been in one, but people would be mostly covered up in a robe or something, and they'd go, and they do their changing. It wouldn't be like, in this episode, there's this naked woman who's just walking around. Of course, she looks like a model, and everyone's gawking at her. And there's nothing but boys in the locker room also. So it's like Sarah and this naked lady, and then a bunch of dudes.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And that's not what a co-worker locker room is. How do you feel in a locker room? Because I never played sports, so I always thought it was weird. In movies, I see guys in a locker room all walking around naked and everyone just smacking towels and asses and cocks are out. I can't do that. Asses and cocks? Asses and cocks?
Starting point is 00:23:38 I always feel weird whenever I'm in a locker room at a spa or something. It's so dirty. Asses and cocks are out? It's so dirty. I didn and cocks are out. It's so dirty. I didn't say it was like a growl. I wasn't like, I wasn't like, asses and cocks.
Starting point is 00:23:51 No, but I mean, whenever I'm in like, I am in a co-ed, I'm not a co-ed, whenever I am in a locker room and like occasionally I go to a hotel spa or something and it's always like
Starting point is 00:24:00 old man ass at the urinal and like the guy, and I just feel very uncomfortable with it. And as a jock, I wondered if you were more comfortable with just cocks being woven around everywhere. So here's my whole thing on it. Because in the movies, we non-jocks, we see these movies. It looks like everybody's fine with cocks flying around.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I worry that somebody recognizes me and is full of judgment, and I can't stand that shit. Okay, but I'm talking about before you were famous. Did you group shower? No. I would shower in my... When we would go to the pool in my neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:24:39 I would shower in my swim trunks. Yeah, I did the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, granted, if there weren't enough showers for all of us to get in, we would share showers. You know what I mean? A bunch of dudes sharing showers. And I remember somebody saying, what are you guys, gay?
Starting point is 00:24:54 And me being like, wait a second. Why am I gay? Because I'm sharing a shower with this guy. It's freaking, there are no showers available. And I want to go home. I want to eat pancakes and sausage. It's interesting that the young male is so terrified of being gay. I mean, I'm sure, I hope that this is decreasing in the psyche of young men.
Starting point is 00:25:16 But I remember I was so worried. I once held my hand like this with like, this is a true story. I just thought of the other day. I was a little boy. And my hand was kind of like dangling like this, like with a this is a true story i just thought of the other day i was a little boy and my hand was kind of like dangling like this like a limp wristed thing and i looked at it as though i was being attacked and i ran to my mom i swear to god this is so i was a little boy so forgive me but it was humiliating and i it's really made me think about but i went mom i did this with my wrist does that mean i'm gay and it was so ingrained in us now granted we i was born in 75
Starting point is 00:25:45 you're growing in 74 but in our childhood was so ingrained that like that's fucking horrible it's like mom mom look at my wrist did i catch it right right look at my wrist or putting your hands on your waist the opposite way so it's standing like forrest gump and now you know what i mean? Or I remember once in middle school or something, holding my books around up to my chest like this, and someone would be like, what are you, fucking gay? So anyway, I think of all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:17 As society becomes a little more comfortable talking about sexuality and all of the wonderful things that are coming to the surface, sexuality and and and all of the wonderful things that are coming to the to the surface yes i i i'm now thinking of our childhood and and and and how how scary it was that i was fucking running to my mom and pointing at my wrist like did i do i have it hyper masculinity sounds exhausting oh my god being afraid of how you like and i mean we see this across a lot of different, like, smaller groups of people. If you break us down that, like, if you hold yourself in a certain way, suddenly you're perceived as a threat or as wrong or, you know, as not being normal. It's being black, dude. It's being black in America, Joelle.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Totally. Go on. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. No, you're good. It just sounds really exhausting to constantly have to worry about how you're holding yourself is going to make you a target. And then, of course, for people who actually were gay and were like, oh, yes, I am gay. Crap.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I have this whole world looking at me and attacking me. And I grew up in rural Illinois, I was knew I was queer pretty early. And so we had like some of these aspects. But I think it's it's easier for what's easier for me to get by than some of my more outwardly expressive friends. I'll put it that way. It's I just I can't even imagine. I wanted to ask you guys, too. You guys were theater kids.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I wanted to ask you guys, too. You guys were theater kids, and I feel like theater kids have such a reputation for constantly being partially nude or in a state of undress around each other, or at least as I was coming up in theater. Was that not the same for you guys? Was it not that way? alone was, you know, you hear what people say, you know what I mean? When you're an actor and you're young and you're doing theater and stuff like that, you know how people... No, but she's saying like, were there instances where, because we were changing and backstage and stuff, was there nudity there? That wasn't really the case for me. That wasn't the case for me either.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Well, what the thing was that I loved about it was affection. For some reason, there was permission. When I went to theater camp, I'll never forget it. Like, there was no taboo in being affectionate with each other. Men hug men. And it was the opposite of public high school, which was so rough. And this was an environment of support and love and hugging and cuddling. And I just never wanted to go back.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I would fucking sob when I had to come back to public school from like utopia. Here's where it gets scary though. So I went to a private school that was for just people in the entertainment industry. And even at a school where it's just, when I was there, at least, I can't say it is like that now, but when I was there, at least, people were kind of outcasted for being gay.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You know what I mean? Like not thrown out of the school or anything like that, but, you know, all the straight dudes seemed to be afraid of the gay guy. You know what I mean? Really? At a performing arts school in Manhattan? At a performing arts school in Manhattan, dude. I'm really surprised because that feels like that's where those kids, if they could get in, would go.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Right. This is the 90s. This is the 80s and the early 90s. And I just remember thinking, wow, this is crazy man this is you know i remember i remember i remember uh being at that school and being one of the only black kids at the school as well you know what i mean there was only like five or six of us in this private school and i only bring all this stuff up because of the beginning of the episode you know what i mean go on go on turk shows jd the ring yeah Turk shows JD The ring Yeah And he goes Oh man
Starting point is 00:30:05 Wow this was a Fucking epic prologue For this joke Go on It's not a joke But it's But it's I mean the joke
Starting point is 00:30:11 Is a joke But yeah Well it is a joke It has It has social commentary In it But it is Meant to be a joke
Starting point is 00:30:18 Right Turk shows JD The ring And JD goes Oh it's beautiful But my parents Would kill me If I married someone black
Starting point is 00:30:26 a black guy yeah yeah i went to uh when i was when i was uh 14 years old i had a had a friend moved to argentina buenos aires suburb of buenos aires and um my parents arranged with two other groups of parents to let us go down and visit him because he missed us and and he was our best friend one of my friends was black and we went down to this suburb in buenos aires and this was a neighborhood where they had never clearly they had never in real life seen a black person and he walked in it was like the record scratch yeah and and they were it wasn't that they were i don't mean to imply that they were that they were disrespectful to him because they weren't. They were just like, holy shit, a black guy. That dude is a black guy, right.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah, and he was like – and I remember we went to a nightclub and they were like, dance. Do some of the dancing. And he couldn't dance to save his life, could he? No, did I tell you this story? Yeah. He was the worst fucking dancer you've ever met. And he couldn't dance to save his life. No, did I tell you this story? He was the worst fucking dancer you ever met. No, you know, I always laugh at this story. He felt like this onus to be like a good dancer, but he sucked.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And so he started doing these stupid moves, like waving his arms. And you could see like everyone in the club being like, oh, that must be the new move. And they really started doing it. It's like Ronald Miller in Can't Buy Me Love, man. Oh, he's doingrican ante the wrist roll but if the ronster's doing it it must be hip oh bro um anyway my point is my point is uh i don't know that i have a point but this episode really uh your point is is very valid donald that the first sentence making a joke about marrying a black guy touched something deep inside you that you dealt with when you married the love of your life. And we still live in a society where that's a thing. And we hope one day it's not.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Absolutely. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast. This season will be even more revealing and more personal, with more entrepreneurs, more trailblazers, more live events, more Martha, and more questions from you. I'm talking to my cosmetic dermatologist, Dr. Dan Belkin, about the secrets behind my skincare. Walter Isaacson about the geniuses who change the world.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Encore Jane about creating a billion-dollar startup. Dr. Elisa Pressman about the five basic strategies to help parents raise good humans. Florence Fabrikant about the authenticity in the world of food writing. Be sure to tune in to season two of the Martha Stewart podcast. Listen and subscribe to the Martha Stewart podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you've been following the news, you know that from healthcare access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. I used to have so many men. How this beguiling woman in her 50s She looked like a million bucks. with zero qualifications She had a Harvard plaque.
Starting point is 00:34:35 tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents. She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway. Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion. That this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About six million. Approximately 11 million dollars. Nearly 10 million dollars was all gone.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry. She would probably have sex with one of her clients. Hide your money in your old rich man because she is on the prowl. Listen to Queen of the Con, Season 5, The Athlete Whisperer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts
Starting point is 00:35:20 or wherever you get your podcasts. This second season of El Flow is here. Available como a ti te guste in both English and Spanish. This season, we dive deeper into the vibrant world of reggaeton, featuring interviews with both reggaeton legends and exciting new talents.
Starting point is 00:35:44 He's the undisputed king of reggaeton, no doubt. And he's been cited as an inspiration by multiple Latin stars, including J Balvin, Bad Bunny, Osuna, Antina Pasha. Explore the evolution of this dynamic genre and what makes it resonate globally. How you consume reggaeton, how you share and distribute reggaeton, those are all an important part of the story. It's the way that the people are experiencing
Starting point is 00:36:10 reggaeton along with the musicians. Listen to El Flow as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm still in the cold opening, but when Turk shows him the ring and he's like, and JD's like, it's beautiful, but my parents would lose their shit if I married a black man.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And then they're like, well, this is what I was thinking. I was thinking I'd make her a dinner and, you know, I'd put it in the wine in her champagne glass. And you said, that's champagne. J.D. goes, that's, well, that's champagne. He's like, well, what would you want me to do? He's like, well, this is what you do. You get some candles, you put it out.
Starting point is 00:36:58 You're starting to sound like Damon Wayans in Beverly Hills Cop. Take these bananas. Take these bananas. And then you get some roses and you put the roses out. And then Turk's like, yeah, because the roses make everything smell great and stuff. Meadows in springtime. Meadows in springtime.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And then Carla walks in, and she goes, what are you guys talking about? And we go, no, nothing, just guy stuff. No, we go, bitches and hoes. Yeah, no, we go, just guy stuff. And JD goes, yeah, bitches and hoes and stuff. By the way, the same joke about masculinity. It's actually exactly the same thing we're talking about. That JD and Turk are talking about, like, no, it'd be like a meadow in springtime.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And then Carla comes in, and we're embarrassed. So then we obviously overcorrect, because we don't know how to manage our masculinity, our fake masculinity, and say, bitches and hoes. But I mean, it's the same thing we're talking about. That being said, I thought I did a pretty good pratfall in this episode. You did. I wrote down.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I want you to know. I wrote down. What did I write down here? I said, look at Donald with your dope-ass pratfall. And you did that. You did that, didn't you? I did that myself. That was me.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah. Now, I don't know why there was such a rush for for turk to get to the garbage disposal i mean no one had turned it on i don't know why you had to dive over the counter in a way that might break your back but you did but because she poured it down the sink i don't think they have a garbage disposal how do you know if they have a garbage disposal it's only one sink and you can i don't know dude i don a garbage disposal? It's only one sink. And you can, I don't know, dude. I don't know. There's some trivia.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I bet Trevor Wickey knows. Does JD and Turk have a garbage disposal? No, I'm just kidding. That's not on there. I kissed Sarah's boobie when she's doing the burlesque thing. I wanted to just circle it back around because we did talk about her latching onto my nipple in the previous podcast. And I just wanted you to know that in this one, I kiss her booty. You returned the favor.
Starting point is 00:38:52 You returned the favor. I did. I returned. I didn't do areola, but I got a little side boob kiss in there. That's what you did. When you did your jump, you made a little bit of a JD injury noise. You did a little. Maybe Bill added that.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I don't know. No, I think it's you. You were trying to jokingly do a JD hurt himself noise. Was it that famous at that point? Had it gotten to the point where it was pretty clear that every time you fell, we were going to make the. I don't know if, I don't know if it was ever discussed like that.
Starting point is 00:39:23 How about Ralphie? I think you had fun hanging out with little Ralphie. Little Ralphie cracked me up. Cute kid, first of all. He's probably a man now. No, what's funny, dude, is this is 20 years ago. The kid's probably 30. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:38 He's probably a grown-ass man now. And is known as Ralph. I wonder if he's still acting. That's the great question. You know what I mean? Like, for a long time, people were like, is the kid from Modern Family Ralphie from Scrubs? No, it's not the same kid.
Starting point is 00:39:51 No, really? Oh, no. Well, that kid is not nearly as old as Ralphie would be. Let's say he's eight. He's 28-ish. Those kids are all grown on Modern Family. All of them. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I know. Oh, I like it when you go first of all when you put your fingers in the hot coffee that was funny you go hot yeah yeah yeah that was funny and then i like when you're like push the dookie out ralphie push the dookie out yeah yeah yeah now the kid eats a diamond engagement ring how does that not cut up fuck up your intestinal digestive system i imagine your digestive system can handle something that's smoothed out.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It's not like it was jagged. I know. I just feel like it would be dangerous to swallow a diamond in a child's fresh, brand new digestive system. Isn't that what happened in Blood Diamond? Didn't he swallow that big ass diamond in Blood Diamond?
Starting point is 00:40:50 With Leonardo DiCaprio, my favorite actor. I don't think I ever saw Blood Diamond. Should I watch it? Oh, it's a good one. Oh, you know what I was going to do for you? Because I'm going a little quarantine crazy. You guys feel this when you got to like, all right, new quarantine chapter. I got to shake some shit up.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Right. Well, that's what the mustache is. That's what the mustache is. I got my Xbox. I'm about to try Red Dead Dawn. What's it called? Red Dead Redemption 2. Yeah, because Hitman, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:18 I killed everybody, and I'm going to try Hitman again, but I think I might try just being on the planes. I don't want to hurt anybody. Okay? Okay. You're going to hurt some people. I'm just looking at you.
Starting point is 00:41:30 You're going to kill a lot of people in Red Dead Redemption 2. You're going to kill a lot of people brutally. It's going to be bloodbath. Like murder, death, kill, dude. Straight up. I'm going to play Hitman 2 and Red Dead Redemption. But one of my new – I'm just trying some new chapter things I was gonna
Starting point is 00:41:48 watch something I've never watched that you're very passionate that I watch and that is the Lord of the Rings series I've never watched what? oh my god what?
Starting point is 00:42:02 all three of them all the listeners all three of them look like they're having a heart attack. All three of them look like Fred Sanford and Sanford in some ways. I'm coming, Wheezy. Elizabeth. Elizabeth. Elizabeth. Elizabeth.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Wow. I have so many questions. Okay. Are you doing the extended director's cuts or original screening? I think he should. Look, here's the thing. Here's the thing. What do you all recommend?
Starting point is 00:42:24 How do I do this? This is going to be like not in 10 hours of my life, right? Alright, guys, this is what I've learned about Zach. This is what I've learned. It's not necessarily the action that he gets stoked about. If the story doesn't move, he gets very, very bored.
Starting point is 00:42:39 So it's not like he needs a bunch of action and fighting and stuff like that. He just wants the fucking story to move along. Don't fucking take too... Here's what I have no interest in, and this is controversial for most of the country. I like character development. I like dialogue. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I like set pieces and beautiful sets and cool cinematography. I get very bored when two supernatural beings are fighting. Okay, then you love Lord of the Rings. You love Lord of the Rings. You love Lord of the Rings. The ultimate example for this condition I have is Transformers. Come on, man. These are horrible movies.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Come on, man. These are horrible movies, man. Let me just articulate my point. There's not one good Transformer movie. Let me just articulate my point. Except for Transformer the. Let me just articulate my point. Except for Transformer, the movie, the cartoon. If I'm watching two
Starting point is 00:43:26 hunks of metal fighting and like crashing taxi cabs, I could give zero fucks. Yeah, dude, those, come on, man. Those movies suck. Come on, man. But I love story
Starting point is 00:43:37 and I know Lord of the Rings has great actors and I love cinematography. I know it's got that. It's a lot of story. Okay, I'm going to say go for the extended cut. Yeah, you should definitely go for
Starting point is 00:43:45 the extended cut then because it there are certain like boromir story kind of gets jumped over in part two if you don't have the extended well you're gritting your teeth you're so excited oh my god you don't even know my dad and i watch these like every year for many years oh we will love lord of the rings if it's on tNT everything stops we're watching Lord of the Rings every new edition that comes out we buy the new one should I try some jazz lettuce with it it couldn't hurt because then you're smoking
Starting point is 00:44:14 with Gandalf and that's always fun they smoke weed in the first movie yes whenever they have jazz lettuce I'm gonna have some they have some good jazz it's the finest weed in the shire. All right, let's get back to this. Ralphie.
Starting point is 00:44:33 So Ralphie, wasn't there a thing, Donald, I remember in the blooper reel around 9-11 when Ralphie's dad drags him out that the kid nailed the door? Oh, I don't know. I feel like I remember that. If you're so inclined, you could go look at the season two blooper reel. But I think that that moment
Starting point is 00:44:52 when Ralphie's dad is aggressively pulling him out of the lobby, I think the kid lost his pounds and nailed the door. He was fine. I'm not laughing at a hurt child, but it did look like it hurt. We probably could have won America's Funniest Home Videos. Oh, man, I would have loved that $100,000 in my pocket.
Starting point is 00:45:08 9.55 when Cox goes, J.D., call an OBGYN and prep the NICU. And then it cuts to me, and I just keep writing a chart. And I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, this woman's about to fucking die. Here's what I don't understand. Now, clearly what happened was the dad had another line to me, so I couldn't leave. But I really got annoyed that Cox is like,
Starting point is 00:45:31 prep the NICU, call an OBGYN, OBGYN. And you cut to me, and I just proceed to write in a chart. Like, what am I writing in a chart? The only problem I had with it is, why are they at this hospital? And Cox is their doctor. Shouldn't she have had a. I think they've come in with a doctor that they always go to.
Starting point is 00:45:58 No, but they've come into the local hospital with an emergency. They're having a baby problem. But you would still call your you would still call your. I don't know. I mean, some of that's, some of that's a little, some of that's a little lax here, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Remember in early episodes, Todd was going to do a fucking woman's breast augmentation. Right, right, right. Like he was a plastic surgeon. Some of that, some of the,
Starting point is 00:46:15 some of the rules of, of that are a little bit thrown out. Even though the AMA says we're the most accurate TV show. I did, I did like the fact that Cox and JD were looking at themselves in this married couple that was about to have a baby. I thought that was very funny.
Starting point is 00:46:30 The baby who was about to deliver is Cox. Yeah, that kid was clearly cast to be JD-esque. Right. I agree. Yes. What's the matter, dude? My back I've never seen this
Starting point is 00:46:46 Why don't you get a nice chair for yourself Because I'd have to bring it all the way up to the closet This is 46 guys I wish you could see him I wish you could see him he's lying down You look like I look like Jabba the Hutt I know Yes you look like Jabba the Hutt. I know. Yes, you look like Jabba the Hutt. Jabba the Hutt.
Starting point is 00:47:21 You need a little chained layer next to you. I need salacious crumb, and then I need a chained... Is that the guy with the snake thing around his neck? No, that's Big Fortuna. I need somebody... Oh my god, you know everybody's names. I need Salacious Crumb. Big Fortuna. That's the little parrot. That's the parrot. That's Salacious
Starting point is 00:47:40 Crumb? Salacious Crumb. No, but I think I had the action figure of the snake neck guy. Bib Fortuna? Yeah. Great character. Is that... Jabba no bargain.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Is that Jedi... Jedi must be allowed to be. Is that Jabba's side piece, henchman? No, that's his freaking... That's his... Interpreter. No, 3PO is the interpreter. He's the...
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's like his pet. Not the pet. Salacious Crumb is the pet. He's more like, you know, he's the dude, Jabba's assistant. That's who he is. That's who Salacious Crumb would be. Okay. I mean, sorry, Ben Fortuna would be.
Starting point is 00:48:18 He's like his, what is the name of Puffy's guy with the umbrella? Right, like Farnsworth Bentley. He's his Farnsworth Bentley. He's just Farnsworth Bentley. Whatever happened to Farnsworth Bentley? Is he doing that for other people now? No, man. You know, it's the same. Listen, man, people come to Hollywood
Starting point is 00:48:35 or people become famous. Farnsworth Bentley is him and Casey Cobb are the two most famous assistants in the history of being assistants. And Farnsworth went on to, I mean, he stole the spotlight from Puff when he was around. You know what I mean? What was so special about Farnsworth Bentley?
Starting point is 00:48:52 I just remember he had to hold Puffy's umbrella. So much charisma. That man has so much charisma. Oh, really? Are you friends with him? I've run into him a couple of times. I wonder what he does, though, for a living these days. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:04 He's a musician. Oh, he is? I think he's doing studio stuff behind the scenes. Well, we should play some of Farnsworth Bentley's music on the podcast. If he wants us to, he should hit us up. We will. We totally will. I was thinking, Joelle, by the way, speaking about the music conundrum that we're facing,
Starting point is 00:49:19 I was thinking two things. One, I could send you a list of like 20 songs and then you could go through iheart to go through the people and say hey do the guys have the permission to play these songs and i won't pick like you know the stones or like drake i'll pick like you know smaller acts yeah speaking of music by the way there's been a lot of demand for my fire workout playlist, which I have now published on Spotify, Donald. Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Now, I never made a playlist public on Spotify, but today, during my downtime, I figured out how to do it. And if you're listening, since there's been clamoring, Donald, literal clamoring for my fire workout playlist. Now, don't listen to this if you're looking for what Donald likes to, and you want to hear Wu Tang and Drake and the like, okay. This is if you want to hear some girl pop while you work out.
Starting point is 00:50:17 It's under on Spotify. It's under Zach Braff's workout playlist. And I'm very excited to see how many listens and plays it gets. At Zach Braff's playlist on Zach Braff's workout playlist. And I'm very excited to see how many listens and plays it gets. At Zach Braff's playlist. On Zach Braff's playlist. Workout. Zach Braff's workout playlist. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Is it like Michelle Branch? Is she on there? Did she make it? Obvi. Totes obvi. You think I'm going to do a workout playlist without everywhere? Come on, bro. You think I'm going to do a workout playlist without everywhere?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Come on, bro. Who's the other one that had the dope song back in the day that was in White Girls? Is that the movie? Oh, my goodness. Making my way downtown. Vanessa Carlton. Yeah, Vanessa Carlton. That's not. Vanessa Carlton.
Starting point is 00:50:59 If I could fall into the sky, do you think life would pass us by? Because you know I'd walk a thousand miles if I could just see you. That's not a great workout song, so I didn't do that. Tonight. Yeah! Anyway, if you guys like this, I'll keep making them For those of you who like me Like working out to
Starting point is 00:51:28 To pop Do you think Michelle Branch got mad when Vanessa Carlton Came out and was like, yo, you trying to take my lane? You trying to take my lane? I had this shit first, girl You're angrier than Jewel By the way, Alicia Silverstone texted me and Donald because she listened to the podcast where we talked about it.
Starting point is 00:51:48 So people, this could happen. This might happen. It's a slow play. You know when you're courting someone and it's a slow play? You can't be too, come on, so strong. She called us very silly. She said I was wrong. She was 16 when she did the Aerosmith video.
Starting point is 00:52:03 She said that she was 16 when she did her first Aerosmith video. By the way, so fucked up. She also said she doesn't recall you being obsessed with her. She said you never mentioned once that you were obsessed with her. I think I've told her in working with her that I had a huge crush on her. Okay, should we bring in the fan? Is the fan caller here? Should we go to break?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Go to break? Go to break. Go to break. Go to break. Go to break. We'll be right back. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast.
Starting point is 00:52:35 This season will be even more revealing and more personal, with more entrepreneurs, more trailblazers, more live events, more Martha, and more questions from you. I'm talking to my cosmetic dermatologist, Dr. Dan Belkin, about the secrets behind my skincare. Walter Isaacson, about the geniuses who change the world. Encore Jane, about creating a billion
Starting point is 00:53:02 dollar startup. Dr. Elisa Pressman, about the five basic strategies to help parents raise good humans. Florence Fabricant about the authenticity in the world of food writing. Be sure to tune in to season two of the Martha Stewart podcast. Listen and subscribe to the Martha Stewart podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you've been following the news, you know that from healthcare access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up
Starting point is 00:54:05 in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:54:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. This second season of El Flow is here. Available como a ti te guste, in both English and Spanish. This season, we dive deeper into the vibrant world of reggaeton, featuring interviews with both reggaeton legends and exciting new talents. He's the undisputed king of reggaeton, no doubt. And he's been cited as an inspiration by multiple Latin stars, including J Balvin, Bad Bunny, Osuna, Mati Natasha.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Explore the evolution of this dynamic genre and what makes it resonate globally. How you consume reggaeton, how you share and distribute reggaeton, those are all an important part of the story. It's the way that the people are experiencing reggaeton along with the musicians. Listen to El Flow as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. iHeart Podcast update this week on your free iHeartRadio app. In retrospect, revisit pop culture moments from the 80s and 90s and try to understand
Starting point is 00:55:41 what it taught us about the world and a woman's place in it. Crying in public, two 20-something college women living in NYC dive into growing up at a time when there was no distinction between what's public and what's private. Best of both worlds, a discussion on work-life balance, career development, parenting, time management, productivity, and making time for fun. Hear these podcasts and more on your free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi! I love your beard, man. You got the beard like I... And you got freaking a Ghostbusters outfit in the back of you. Yeah, yeah. So, all right. My quarantine beard and then I'm joining up with the Massachusetts Ghostbusters
Starting point is 00:56:22 to do charity when all this quarantine stuff goes away. That is amazing. Are you serious? What do you do? Have you ever busted a ghost before? I wish I could, but no. Wait a second. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:56:36 So what do you do when you dress up in this Ghostbusters outfit? Do you do volunteering? You said of some kind. So personally, I've done nothing yet other than take my nephew trick or treating. But right before the quarantine happened, I was going to join up with the Massachusetts Ghostbusters and do like conventions and parades and different things to raise money for charity. And then quarantine happened. But once it's all over, I'm going to go back and join up with them.
Starting point is 00:57:00 God, you want to do that? Joelle scours the earth for the most wonderful people hold on i gotta tell you i just don't understand thank you joelle are you sure you don't want to go back and volunteer for your community what are you talking about why would he not want to volunteer for his community he's got a baby on the way no he doesn't oh what hang on what'd you just say don't you have a baby on the way oh i don't think he knows yet donald i know he doesn't know i'm surprising i wanted to fucking tell him you did it too fucking soon i was gonna drag it out longer no i couldn't do it surprised it happened that fast
Starting point is 00:57:40 okay so i have some questions now rachel rachel Rachel, Rachel wanted us to tell you that you're having a baby. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Rachel and the baby! Holy crap. There's a huge chat here. Oh! Yeah, they're kissing, guys. They're so happy. They're kissing.
Starting point is 00:57:58 They're happy and they're kissing. And Rachel has produced the pregnancy test. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. Did you know this? Oh, I knew about 10 minutes ago that this was happening. This chat,
Starting point is 00:58:10 but that's, that's all. I just, you guys, I'm like, I'm so on. We're going on to talk with, with the doctors.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I'm so happy for you. And I don't want to upstage. I want to talk about this, but Donald, what the fuck? We were like one minute in and you fucking did it you couldn't drag it out a little bit longer no I couldn't
Starting point is 00:58:30 we could have been like oh do you want to have kids one day you fucking dick my bad I'm sorry but I couldn't I couldn't wait don't curse in front of the baby I'm sorry I couldn't wait I'm very excited because I know they have questions but now he has even more questions
Starting point is 00:58:46 congratulations you are going to be a father and we knew about it before you that's insane now all my questions are changing yeah good let's get into them what questions do you have i think question number one and sorry zach, Zach, but this is for Donald. You know, from this podcast, I heard you have like 85 kids. What do I do? Yeah. He does. He's 97 children.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Not 85. Not 85. Come on, man. 54. The thing is, shoot. Well, you know. Well, Donald, you always say that just first that first year you gotta be very supportive the woman has to run the show right
Starting point is 00:59:28 well there's not much you can do the first year I'm gonna be 100% honest right now you can't do much for her other than support and you need to be 100% supportive and make dinners yeah that's right make dinners
Starting point is 00:59:43 rubber back rubber feet you know have make dinners yeah that's right make dinners feet rubbing back rubber feet you know uh say you look beautiful darling all the time yeah and uh you're a very cute couple of it that's gonna be an adorable child yeah thanks thank you i'm still completely blown away no i know i know a little something. I know nobody else can see it, but maybe you guys can describe it. I know Donald has been having a rough time with his Instagram followers. Right on. And so,
Starting point is 01:00:12 um, I made an account the other day. Nice. Oh my God. Instagram fan. I love it. Oh my God. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:26 It's like a little Instagram. It's a onesie, you guys, and it says youngest Instagram follower. If this doesn't give me followers, I don't know what will. I mean,
Starting point is 01:00:38 I hope it does. By the way, these people like 12 billion at one point, but I can give you the youngest one. And I appreciate that. That is adorable.
Starting point is 01:00:47 So you guys seem, just from looking around your background, that you're very into Batman, maybe. Kind of. Yeah, I'm definitely a Batman fan, but this is just a weird corner of my office. I'm all over Marvel, Ghostbusters, whatever. Marvel, DC, Ghostbusters, Star Wars? Who's your favorite? Oh, Big Star Wars fan, yeah. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Don't go there, please. Who's your favorite Batman who ever played him in a film? Oh, that's a really good question. It's easy for me. Well, no one asked you. Are we talking specifically live action? Yes, specifically live action and not Adam West, just films. Because Conroy is dope.
Starting point is 01:01:29 You're right about that. Is that who you were going to end it with? Yeah, exactly. Conroy is where I was going. I would have gone with Adam West, but we're talking about just feature films. So I think I'm going to have to do something that everyone's going to disagree with, but Ben Affleck, mainly because I enjoyed how they they did the combat and got some you know comic accurate scenes like dark knight returns stuff yeah you know i say i say uh i say
Starting point is 01:01:53 affleck is one of the better batmans my favorite batman for me is keaton though yeah keaton i like he's a good one and i know it's not that enjoy his movies. It's not that he's a... I take that back. It's not that he's a good Batman. He was the best Bruce Wayne out of everyone. Absolutely. I'll definitely give you that. But I can't get past the fact that the beginning of those movies,
Starting point is 01:02:14 the first one is a bunch of random purse robbers on the top of skyscrapers for some reason. Why are they on the skyscraper? Right, right, right. And then Batman just shows up up lifts his cape and slowly walks forward until he gets shot right it's weird right that's that you guys are why you guys you're both skipping like the the artiste of our time chris nolan well hey christian bell was a good batman great batman but i argue that those are more uh like villain movies yeah because batman's not the star of those movies it's who he fights in those movies that's the star. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Do you know my favorite line from those movies? This is what I couldn't get past. I'm Batman. Why are you going to... Rachel! Rachel! He has all that money and he can't buy a voice changer?
Starting point is 01:03:01 What the fuck? It's because the city of Gotha. What the fuck, Andy? My favorite line from... Zach, what's your favorite line? My favorite line is...
Starting point is 01:03:15 It didn't make the film. It was a behind-the-scenes moment. Do you want me to tear down your lights? That's not Batman. That's Terminator, bud. That's Terminator. No, it wasn't. That was Terminator. Why was Christian B that's Terminator No it wasn't That was Terminator
Starting point is 01:03:26 Why was Christian Bale in Terminator? He's in one of the Terminators He plays John Connor in one of the Terminators Christian Bale does? We are talking about two movies With fucked up timelines Both timelines of these movies Wait a second
Starting point is 01:03:41 Terminator and Batman are like so fucked When Christian Bale screamed at the cinematographer, that wasn't Batman? No, it was Terminator. He was pissed off because he's doing a scene with the Terminator at the time. Right. And the DP kept changing the lights in his eyeline,
Starting point is 01:03:58 and he screamed at him. The DP was like, do you want me to tear down your lights? You know, the DP was like, dude, we're making a Terminator. I know. It's like, buddy, you're a nice Terminator. I know. You're a nice guy. Where do you live, by the way? So I'm in Massachusetts. We're just outside of Boston.
Starting point is 01:04:13 This is so exciting. Is your mind blown that you're having a child? How far along are we? I'm assuming not very. I got a kiss in the other room it's pretty early i am okay it's about five weeks actually when i was going with uh back and forth with joelle she originally we were going to do this a little earlier and she
Starting point is 01:04:36 was like can we postpone and i was like actually i started freaking out i was going way too public way too early yeah i thought most people wait like three months. I mean, but maybe your friends don't listen to this, so they won't know. They won't know. We have a few. So there's,
Starting point is 01:04:49 there's, I'm going to get some, we have to talk to you before. Okay. I would definitely tell your, your friends that listen to the podcast. Yeah. In fact,
Starting point is 01:04:58 are you recording this? I hope you are. Yeah. We'll get you. If you're not, we'll get you a copy or we'll try. Thank you. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Yeah. So, I mean, I am very excited. It has been obviously a crazy, terrible year for everyone. Personally, though, it's been a really rough year for me. Right the day that the whole state shut down and the country pretty much shut down was the day my mom passed away. So it's been kind of rough. But this is a nice, good new story for my family so i'm i'm really excited uh in fact i i made my wife cry uh right before we got on here because when she told me we were getting on i looked at the episode that just dropped today and i did the math and i was like wait a minute is this my philosophy because
Starting point is 01:05:41 that just happened to be something i was watching right before my mom passed. And so the whole musical number at the end has been stuck in my mind for the last like six months or four months or however long it's been. Yeah. I cried like a baby episode for the first time ever. You know, I've, this is one episode I remembered.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I do remember filming this episode and I remembered, I remembered, I remembered, I've watched filming this episode and I remembered, uh, I remembered, I remembered, I've watched this episode a couple of times, but this was the first time that I, you know, because of everything that we're dealing with right now, I cried like a baby. Oh my God. It's so powerful. Yeah. I mean, I actually think Chris has been the longtime fan and he's brought me along for the ride. And, um, I, I believe it was this episode that when I first started watching, I had to stop for a little bit because it just gutted me. Yeah, it's one of those. Well, I was thinking we should play Waiting for My Real Life to Begin by Colin Hay to end this episode of the podcast.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Isn't that a clever idea? That would be awesome. Because Colin Hay is a friend of us and a friend of the show, and I'm sure he wouldn't mind at all if we, when we do wrap this one up, to go into it. Because I mean, if you haven't heard his rendition of the song, you know, in this episode we've turned into
Starting point is 01:06:57 a, it's beautifully arranged, but we've turned into a bit of a musical number, but it's just a song that Colin Hay sings alone on the guitar, and it's a really special song. You guys turned me into a Colin Hay fan. After my overkill,
Starting point is 01:07:14 I went and did a deep dive on his music. You know what my favorite... By the way, when the world opens back up and he tours, I mean, you're going to have a baby now. You're going to have your hands full, but let's say somebody wants to babysit for you guys. You to go see him live he it's he's always plays small venues and there's just usually just him and a guitar and he he's hilarious so he'll do he'll he'll just be you know like most musicians if you go see them in like a small venue they they tell
Starting point is 01:07:38 a little anecdote and then they're strumming their guitar and then they go into the song this guy will do like stand-up like hilarious jokes as he's just sitting there strumming and then he'll go into a song and and it's it's really great wherever you are and you're listening to this if keep an eye out for whenever colin hay comes to town because i promise you it's a great show do you have a favorite colin hay song tech um yes um oh gosh i have a couple but, I just don't think I'll get over, over you is probably my favorite. I drink black coffee every morning comes from a place that's far away. When I'm done, I feel like talking without you. Less to say. Oh, that's like the worst breakup song. It's a great breakup song because you're like,
Starting point is 01:08:28 it says so many things you want to say to the person. Like, I miss you, but do you miss me? And I like when he goes, Don't want you to think I don't get asked to dinner because I'm here to say that I sometimes do. Cause I'm here to say that I sometimes do. But if I live till I can no longer climb my stairs. I just don't think I'll ever get over you.
Starting point is 01:09:00 There you go. We serenaded your new baby for you. I love that one. You know my favorite line in that song is, Don't want you thinking I'm unhappy. What is closer to the truth? And then he says, That if I live till I was 102, I just don't think I'll ever get over you.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Should we play that one or the one on the episode? Now you want me to hear that one. Let's play the episode. Let's play the episode. Yeah, because that one's too melancholic. Yeah. I mean, they're both melancholic, but it's been a melancholic episode, so it's okay. Except for birth and new beginnings and a young...
Starting point is 01:09:43 You guys should name the baby Simba, I think. Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's exciting. It's the Lion King reference. I know it's not the one you got, but I was thinking more like Donald or... Adeo Shun. Adeo Shun.
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Starting point is 01:14:08 or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys. Guys, we've gone very long, but do you have a question for us? It might be beyond baby. We both kind of set up a question. Do you want to go first? Sure.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I guess my question for you guys is, I mean, given the state of the world right now and the fact that this is based off of somebody who's working the front lines, I don't know if this would be for you or the crew. No, maybe. But how do you guys think your characters would have dealt with COVID? Oh, they would have jumped on it. I think Turk, JD, Carla, Elliot, Dr. Cox, even Kelso. I think they would have jumped on this. I think like all of the, you know, first responders out there right now who are risking their lives and everything like that I think JD
Starting point is 01:15:08 and the gang would have done the exact same thing I think this is something that they would have said you know let's answer the call the hospital is going to answer this call Sacred Heart is going to answer the call let's make it happen yeah I mean don't forget first and foremost amidst all the comedy it was clear they were all
Starting point is 01:15:24 really good doctors. So I think that, you know, that was important to the writers and that was important to J.D., who was the inspiration, John Doris, who was the inspiration for my character, J.D. So I think, yeah, I think that they would be all over it. You know, there was
Starting point is 01:15:39 an episode where we quarantined. Do you remember? With Tara Reid and she made quarantinis? Yes. We were all locked in the ICU. Somehow I feel like the janitor would be trying to convince you you have COVID. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:56 The janitor would definitely be up to his usual hijinks like he was in this episode. He did a pretty small part in this one, although I got ink all over his shirt because he borrowed my pen. The pen didn't match, though. The pen didn't match. You gave him a Sharpie, and then at the end he has a
Starting point is 01:16:11 regular ink pen. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Scrubs Wiki. He probably knows. It's not on Scrubs Wiki, and we don't want to get him all riled up over something so small. We can only pull him out of the fucking... No, don't say his name three times or he materializes.
Starting point is 01:16:27 It's like Beetlejuice. Yeah. He doesn't want to do it. I'm not going to ask him anything. And now he's asking Trevor Wickey things. I know. That's two. We got to stop. I get anxious when we talk about calling him.
Starting point is 01:16:43 I think that was the third time. He's going to show up. He's here. He's's here he's in my house trevor get out all right do you guys have another question yeah this one's kind of a more silly question but uh i remember when you guys had the call turk line and i know it was a real number uh do you guys ever mess with any fans that called in it rang non-stop here's the thing about what was so crazy about the call turk phone so bill i guess you know uh i think it started with having a pet peeve if you ever notice in movies it's always five five five just because you know it has to be uh people don't want to deal with a real number it has to be a fake number and so bill said oh let's just make it let's just get the number so it was a cell phone and it would sit in the production office and the
Starting point is 01:17:24 production office was the center of all of our dressing rooms because, you know, picture it. It's a hospital. All of our dressing rooms are hospital rooms. And what would be like the nurse's station in the middle of the ward was where a lot of the production people would sit. And the phone would just be there. And if it wasn't on silent, it would ring nonstop, like nonstop. And sometimes when you're just sitting around bored, people would just pick it up.
Starting point is 01:17:47 And we ended up getting a map with pins, because people would call from all over the world. And by the time we were over it, I mean, the thing was just covered. The map was covered in pins from people from all over the world that would just call. And so to answer your question, yeah, we would just talk to people. And then they'd be like, Zach, we need you on set. I gotta go. Here's Donald. And we'd just put Donald on.
Starting point is 01:18:07 We would just hand it around. People were so interested. He'd be talking to a PA. Donald would be like, I gotta go too. Here, talk to one of our PAs. And they were just psyched to talk to anybody related to the show. Do you remember that, Donald? What sucked would be sometimes you'd be like, hello, you called Turk. And they'd be like, hey, is this real?
Starting point is 01:18:24 And you'd be like, yeah, it's real. Who's this? It's Donald Faison. I play Turk. Is JD around? No, no, no. Zach's not around. He's on set right now.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Okay, well, is Dr. Cox around? Oh. And they'd be like,'s bullshit how many people want and you're talking to turk you called turk no it was fun and then and then sometimes we would turn it off because it was like okay it was just ringing non-stop and and then it would sit there like lying dormant and then someone would turn it on and then it would just start right up again because of because the show was globally popular and at any time if you turned it on it would be ringing right it's crazy it was fun you're right i don't know what happened to that number
Starting point is 01:19:13 we should try it what was it 1-800-CAL-TURK C-A-L like california turk yeah yeah are you guys trying now i don't have the phone so you're not going to reach me. But for all I know, one of our PAs kept it. I'm already talking to you guys. Yeah. You already reached her. All right, we got to go because we've gone so long. But congratulations, you guys. We're very excited for you.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I have a question for you guys before you leave. Absolutely. Zach and I were talking about this. We know that the episode, we talk about the episodes and everything like that. And sometimes there's episodes of Fake Doctors, Real Friends, where we talk about the episode just a little bit and we digress. How do you guys feel about that as listeners to our show? So I'm gonna be honest with you. I've seen every episode probably 10, 15 times. I don't need to have you guys tell me what's on the episode i've seen it i enjoy listening to
Starting point is 01:20:05 you guys just talk and when you get to some of the behind the scenes stuff that's cool but it's also just fun listening to you guys talk yeah i love you like you guys have the kind of friendship that i i think we have with our friends and it's just like kind of hanging out with a couple of friends and i'm like yeah i don't know how we're talking about bubble gum but i'm loving it like yeah well i think that's what we want to i think that's what we have a few naysayers and donald and i are the kind of people first of all i got to get off twitter because it's one of my i i this quarantine has made me read this shit too much and most people are nice don't get me wrong but that's not what we do when you're in the public eye and people write shit at you you you
Starting point is 01:20:43 see the nice things and you thank you, thank you. And then someone writes something and it just sticks in your head. And then, so some of the couple of Donald and I both had people like, you might want to talk about the episode more. And I'm like, well,
Starting point is 01:20:54 this is really going 3000 times better than we ever thought it was going to. And more people are listening than we ever thought we're going to. Should we start fucking up what's working? Because we, we want to, we want to go through the episode and point out what we thought was funny. But unlike the other people that do this, I think the office ladies who are killing it, obviously, but they go a little bit more meticulously through the episode. I don't think that would interest Donald and I so much. I think we'd probably get bored doing that.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Yeah, and if you're a real fan, you know what's happening. So, like, just enjoy the ride. Yeah. Should I start with these Marvel movies, the ones I haven't seen, or should I start with Lord of the Rings? Because I was going to start. I've never seen a Lord of the Rings film, and these guys were saying I should start there.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Go Marvel. My dad's a huge Lord of the Rings fan, and they are great movies. I enjoy them, but go Marvel. But we're definitely a Marvel fan. This is what I'm going to say, guys. guys knowing him i would say go lord of the rings because for him watching fights like he in game or uh i take that back uh infinity war he'll be bored because it's nothing but fighting the whole movie you know what i mean i get more invested when there's really good character development and then i'm invested and i go like, like, like, I mean, just to take a movie like Rocky, it's like, I'm so invested in these human beings.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I could watch them fight. But when it's like, get back here, Decepticon, I don't give a fuck. Right. So look, here's the thing. Here's the thing about the Marvel movies that I'm sure you guys will agree with me on. Daniel and Joelle as well there's so many of them that they've developed these characters so well that by the time you get to Infinity War and Endgame you're so invested unlike unlike uh Lord of the Rings where they develop the characters
Starting point is 01:22:41 right in front of you as you are okay go, go ahead, Daniel. Say something. Go ahead. Nothing. I just think there are emotional moments in both movies. Yes. But there is one emotional moment. I would say three, but near the end of Return of the King, there's one emotional moment that strikes me harder than any Marvel movie ever will. I'm just going to throw that out there. Is that when she goes...
Starting point is 01:23:05 Don't spoil her, bro. Don't spoil her. I can say the line without it spoiling. Okay? I'm going to be pissed if you're fucking ruining this movie for me. It doesn't spoil anything. There's no way. Give me the ring.
Starting point is 01:23:20 You're going to get to a point where some character says... I am the lord of the rings. It is I, the lord of the rings. And everyone goes, ah, the title. No. You get to a point in the movie where someone says, you bow to no man. And my whole face explodes with tears. Well, now I don't need to watch it.
Starting point is 01:23:44 I mean, the thing is, you're not even going to know when it's coming. You won't even know. And then it'll happen, and you're just going to... You know what I'm going to know when I'm going to cry? I'm going to cry when someone goes, for I am the Lord of the Rings. We got to go. This show's four hours long.
Starting point is 01:24:04 I'm definitely not dropping long just watching the last episode of Breaking Bad I know good you guys can say what you want to say that's a good fucking episode I can't even talk about it you guys you're so fun I imagine if we lived in the same city
Starting point is 01:24:20 and the apocalypse wasn't happening we'd all be friends but you seem like very nice people congratulations on your you lived in the same city and the apocalypse wasn't happening. We'd all be friends, but, um, it's, uh, you seem like very nice people. Congratulations on your young one and, uh, be safe,
Starting point is 01:24:32 stay healthy and, uh, and, and, and give us a followup, uh, let you well know when, send us a picture when,
Starting point is 01:24:38 when you, when you have the baby. Okay. Definitely. I have to put it in my one day. And thank you for continually just changing my life with things. We got more on the way for you. Just you things. We got more on the way for you. Just you wait.
Starting point is 01:24:47 We got more on the way for you. Be well, man. I can't wait for you to put on your Ghostbusters outfit. I'm looking forward to it. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Have a good one. Bye.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Take care. Have a good one. Wow, I like them. I told you, man. I told you. It's not. You fucked the whole thing up though dude I didn't fuck it up
Starting point is 01:25:06 Really? You'd be the worst game show host ever I am a game show host Fuck you Well that one probably sucks because you didn't tease anything out Fuck you You gotta tease it out I did tease it out Are you sure you want to do community service?
Starting point is 01:25:24 You got a kid on the way. You have to do some edging. I thought it was great. I thought it was a great interview. I thought they did great. I thought they were genuinely surprised. No, it ended up being great. You got excited because you wanted to be the one to tell him.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Yeah, and I knew you wanted to be the one. Yeah, but I would have played it out a little bit. So, you guys want to have kids one day? Yeah, whatever. Anyway, let's get back to the episode. Yeah, we've gone so, we've gone 138, but let's just continue a little bit here. Okay, so let's, there was one
Starting point is 01:25:57 thing that I noticed that happened in this episode that I thought was very funny, and that was the candid camera gag. Yeah, why is the guy under the bed? That's so funny. Yeah, that's ridiculous, right? Because you're not supposed to see where the camera is. Yeah, but he's that why is the guy under the bed that's so funny yeah that's ridiculous right because you're not supposed to see what a camera is yeah but he's not getting any shot from under the bed how about when you not when you um when you go in uh oh first of all i laughed out loud when when when when ted lawyer goes i feel like i'd be more productive if my phone dialed out. Sammy had some great lines in this. Or when he goes, where did she get that idea?
Starting point is 01:26:36 And Sam goes, Ted, what are you trying to do? He says, I'm trying to whistle. You don't think that it was me? Or then when she blows him the kiss at the end and he catches it yeah and turns around and he puts it in his pocket to save it when you bang on the cab to catch Judy the lady thought you were trying to rob her
Starting point is 01:26:54 she goes just take it she puts the freaking purse out the window just take it that was funny how about Judy telling you she needs to think and Carla telling you she needs to think that's the most fucked up answer
Starting point is 01:27:08 you can ever get to a wedding proposal I know and yet it happens don't you think by the time most people propose I mean I would think by the time I drop the question
Starting point is 01:27:16 I'd be 99.999 sure I'm gonna get a yes I'm not gonna I'm not leaving any wiggle room well I think a lot of people do think they're gonna get the yes and when they get the to leave in any wiggle room. Well, I think a lot of people do think they're going to get the yes. And when they get the no, it's, you know.
Starting point is 01:27:28 What sucks is that, you know, when you get the no and they keep the ring. That happens? No. Listen, man. People keep an engagement ring and then don't get married? That's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Yeah. That's a thing? It happens all the time. You got to give the ring back, ladies. We can't be engaged anymore. Okay, well, I'm going to need that ring back. Ladies. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:27:52 This was a gift. Ladies. And Dan, please get them the one you know. How do you feel about it? Here we go. We got a lady on the line right here named Joelle. All right. Well, let's hear Joelle's two cents.
Starting point is 01:28:02 If someone's giving me jewelry, I'm keeping it. I don keeping it. Like, I don't understand. I don't believe in curse. Like, you have to really intentionally put a curse on a ring for me to be like, ooh, I don't know. Joelle, if someone gave you an engagement ring and you turn them down, you'd keep the ring? How close are we? I love fancy stuff. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 01:28:32 That's fucked up Dan, prepare the more you know sound effects because I have a public service announcement If a prospective suitor gives you an engagement ring and you turn them down, give them back the fucking ring. Speaking of you singing, you have a beautiful voice at the end of this episode. Yeah, we sing a Colin Hayes song at the end of this episode.
Starting point is 01:28:57 I know, I forgot that it was everybody at first. I thought, I knew that she sang, Jill Tracy. That's Tim Hobart's wife, right? Yes, Donald. That is Jill Tracy playing Elaine. And she is one of our writers, very talented wives. She is an actress and a singer. And she did such a little bit of trivia for you. Jill Tracy is the name of who on the show? I don't know. Well, if you know the show Scrubs,
Starting point is 01:29:29 you'll know that that's the name of Nicole Sullivan's characters in seasons 1, 3, and 5. Wow. Also, Kit Pongetti, who plays Dr. Mitchell, the doctor who's beside Kelso in The Singing Number, went on to play Lady in seasons 7 and 8. Yeah, went on to play Lady in season seven and eight.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Yeah. Goes on to marry the janitor. Yes. And the death has an appearance here. Played by Randall Winston. Randall Winston. And he kills Ernie. The old man,
Starting point is 01:29:59 older doctor that he kills is one of our head stunt guys, stunt coordinators, Ernie. So, yeah, this musical number is beautiful. And it was very theatrical. And I remember thinking at the time, this is so beautiful, but will it work? I mean, it's such a weird, it was so theatrical and such a different turn. But here we are talking about how we cried and got goosebumps. So 20 years later, it still works.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Well, it works. Okay, there's another reason why I got goosebumps and I cried when I was watching this. Because when we were shooting this episode and we got to this point where we're all together at the end and she goes, On a clear day when I can see. And then we go into the harmonies I remember saying to everybody
Starting point is 01:30:48 because we're lip-syncing this I was like everybody sing off key and uh the first person to sing off is Sam Lloyd. And so it goes, on a clear day, when I can see. And then Sam goes, see. Right, see, whatever. And then it goes, see it. And then we all go to,
Starting point is 01:31:15 so we'll go, on a clear day, when I can see. And then Sam will go, see. On purpose, because we're all singing off key. The audience can't tell tell but when we're doing that why did you tell them to do that because it was it was already we were lip syncing so it didn't
Starting point is 01:31:30 matter whatever we sang didn't matter and so sam does that and i if you watch you can see me kind of start to lose it in the in the shot and really it was just one of those moments where... You picked a really good time for some wackiness. I did. Well, you know, listen, we were dealing with such serious stuff at the time. I wanted to, you know, maybe alleviate the pressure. Yeah, well, you did. You alleviated that shit.
Starting point is 01:31:59 And it just, you know, when I look back at it now, it was like, wow, Sam was always game to have fun in that realm. You know what I mean? Yeah. And when he did that, so for me going back to that moment, it's a moment that on one, I'll never forget. Because when it happened, I couldn't stop laughing. It was my idea to do it as a gag for the reel, but it turned out to be so freaking funny at the time that you can see me almost break if you watch it.
Starting point is 01:32:30 All right. I'm going to go back and look for that Donald Faison. And it's all because of, and it was pretty much because Sam Lloyd, Sam's the one that sets it off too. If you look at it and who's in the scene, it's Sam, It's, it's Neil. It's Ken, myself. Ken. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:48 But we're all, we're all freaking, it was so amazing to me. We all sang off key at that moment. I, I wonder if, I wonder if any of the other actors and actresses remember that. It's,
Starting point is 01:32:59 it's something that I'll always hold dear because Sam was the first one to set it off. And it always made me you know look at him like wow dude you you you can play or you'll play around even when you know it's a serious situation yeah and and and make it so that we can all have fun he was such a great man I missed that fella so we did it that's the show guys what a show oh such a wide range of emotions there's babies there's there's uh there's feelings there's emotions what should we tell everybody um follow donald faze on on instagram yes please do follow joelle and danil on the twitter uh subscribe to the show tell your friends you might be thinking hey my friends already know no they don't tell them tell them to come join the party join the party because uh rate us yes and yeah rate us joelle how do they
Starting point is 01:33:52 rate us someone asked me that there's a way when you go into the itunes app so when you're in uh apple podcasts there is like you'll see the rating at the top if you click on the episode. I'm going to do it with you guys now so I can just walk you through it. There's the little star dots things at the top so you can click those and you can leave a little note. We like five stars. Less than that doesn't help us. So if you feel like
Starting point is 01:34:18 giving less than that, keep that to yourself. This message doesn't pertain to you if that's how you feel. That's how you feel. this ain't for you. This message ain't for you. We are the Uber driver who, when he drops you off, says, five stars, and you go, five stars. Yeah. Five stars all the way.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Yeah, of course. And tell your friends, and thank you so much. So we thought we'd end the show with our friend Colin Hay, because he is a friend of Scrubs and a brilliant troubadour that we all love. And he's the gentleman who wrote the song that ends this episode. So here is our friend Colin Hay with the song Waiting for My Real Life to begin. Take it away, Colin. Any minute now
Starting point is 01:34:58 My ship is coming in I'll keep checking the horizon And I'll stand on the bow And feel the waves come crashing Come crashing down Down, down On me And you say Be still my love
Starting point is 01:35:43 Open up your heart Let the light shine in Don't you understand I already have a plan I'm waiting for my real life to begin I woke today Suddenly nothing happened but in my dreams I slew
Starting point is 01:36:36 the dragon down this beaten path up this cobbled lane Walking in my own footsteps Once again And you say Just be here now Forget about the past Your mask is wearing thin And you say, just be here now.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Forget about the past. Your mask is wearing thin. Just let me throw one more dice. I know that I can win. I'm waiting for my real life to begin. Any minute now, a shipper is coming in I'll keep checking the horizon
Starting point is 01:37:54 and I'll check my machine it's sure to happen soon, soon, or so very soon It's just the times are lean And you say, be still my love Open up your heart, let the light shine in Don't you understand Oh, I already have a plan I'm waiting for my real life to begin guitar solo On a clear day
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