Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 215: His Story

Episode Date: August 25, 2020

In this week's episode, Dr Cox takes over the narration from JD in the first of 9 "story" episodes. In the real world, Shea Serrano is back to discuss one of his favorite episodes, and Bill debuts a n...ew segment. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 I am officially ready I got a little white I got a little cold white today too It's a little cold duck I'm really liking the new hairstyle I have to say Thank you I'm drinking this duck horn man Do you like duck horn?
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Starting point is 00:03:12 isn't necessarily the dopest beard. They're not really that good looking. Oh, Dan's nodding because Dan is a fellow beard owner. You agree, right? They don't represent correctly. It's like... Yeah, no, they don't. And also, I just started following Joelle on eh. Yeah, no, they don't. And also, I just started following Joelle on Instagram. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:03:28 We've been having a lot of fun. I follow her on Instagram. She's got some spicy pictures. Don't tell the people. Mom, stop listening to the podcast right now. Joelle, are you, like, provocative? Sometimes a little bit. Joelle knows how to find the right colors
Starting point is 00:03:44 that suit her selfies. You know what I mean? And then she finds the right colors that suit her selfies you know what I mean and then she finds the right poses I followed you on Twitter I'm learning a lot I'm learning a lot about Joel by Joel and I started following Joel because Bobby Moynihan yesterday hit me up uh with something and first of all Joel if we do do this star wars podcast he should be one of the hosts with us because he's his knowledge of star wars is amazing anyway yes my point is you know who else could be on it as i as i understand it patton oswalt is also on the level of you guys right yeah absolutely yeah yeah yeah absolutely team made we could make a we could make a really dope team, and it would be a dope podcast, because we'd have legit people who are legitimately into the show.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Anyway, into the movie. Into the universe. Anyway, so Bobby Moynihan sends me a picture, and it's got all of these pilots in it, like Luke Skywalker, Harrison Doola. Yeah, Lando's on there, too. Lando, Chewbacca. I'm going to look at it real quick. Some of these people, I'm like, who cares?
Starting point is 00:04:52 But Poe Dameron, Bodhi from Rogue One, Porkins. The list is pretty good. And Wedge Antilles, Han Solo. The list is pretty good. And Wedge Antilles, Han Solo. And the list is choose your squadron, but you can only pick four characters. And this was the hardest thing I'd ever had to do. And then I hit up Joelle, and I'm like, Joelle, four characters, that's all you can choose.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And she throws them out so easily. She's first like, oh, wow, this is hard. And then she's like, who did you say? Hera? Wedge? Yeah. Luke. No, you didn't say Luke. You said you didn't want to pick.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I thought initially. Wait, no, you're right. I didn't say Luke. I don't remember. I was going to. But I did say Anakin because I like Anakin. And he's a great fighter. He was the best pilot in the galaxy period.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So it made sense to say Anakin. He's not even on the list. But he should have been because that's what I would have picked. My point is, this was one of the hardest choices I ever had to make when it came to Star Wars. And Bobby Moynihan, his at is on Instagram is Bibby Moynihan. And I chose Lando, Wedge, Luke Skywalker, and I said Han Solo and Chewbacca are a combination. But then I was like, you know what? I'm going to take those two off and put Hera Syndulla.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Hera is the greatest. So that was a quick teaser for you guys who are interested in a Star Wars podcast that will soon be coming to you. From my heart. This is not said podcast. This is a podcast about fake doctors who are actually real
Starting point is 00:06:31 friends. Yeah, but I just wanted to throw that out there real quick because as a friend, I know you know how important Star Wars is to me. And if I have some Star Wars trivia or knowledge or a puzzle that you would always allow me to talk Star Wars because you know how it's important to me. It is. It is very important to my friend,
Starting point is 00:06:54 and I love you very much. Welcome all of our listeners. Hi, everybody. Thank you for listening. Thank you for all your amazing feedback on our Instagram and instagram and twitter uh donald and i love hearing from you guys and love hearing what you have to say i saw i saw someone today regarding um uh tuesday's show sent oh my god this podcast is getting dirty because we got into both we got into the wop video analysis we got into manscaping so um hopefully we didn't upset too many listeners. I think I should clear something up too, though. I did not take my junk out at the club. Just your pubes?
Starting point is 00:07:34 I just showed the pubes. Okay. Just to be clear. When I heard the story, I didn't remember the story, but when I heard it, I just assumed you came down to just above the eel. Yeah, right before the black whale would make an appearance,
Starting point is 00:07:52 we cut it there. Yeah, you just brought it down to show what was happening. But you know, I think it's important. I felt like we did an important public service announcement because I feel like there's people out there who don't know. And they need someone to tell them. And that's why we're here as Fake Doctors Real Friends.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah, we also created a new segment called Let's Fix Your Life. Yeah, that was fun. I think that's going to go well today. Joelle, we're going to do that again with today's caller. Okay, great. I will give them a heads up. And also, just them a heads up. And also, just a quick heads up for you guys.
Starting point is 00:08:27 We have Shea Serrano on the podcast today. Oh, wow. Really, the best guest we ever had. We're really excited about it. Donald, is your sweatshirt designed... Oh, sorry, go ahead. Let me just ask one more question. Go ahead, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Is your sweatshirt designed to look like it has stains on it? Yeah, it's tie-dye. It's a gray and white tie-dye. Oh. It's a gray and white tie-dye. Oh, it's a gray and white tie-dye. Over the zoom, it looks like it was artistically designed to look stained. Oh. Well, no. And I thought it was a nice choice.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I thought it was handsome. It's by Nike. Ooh. Ooh. Do you like Nike? You know I love Nike. Look at these bad boys i just got fire wow those are fire one thing i don't do one thing i don't recommend doing you guys
Starting point is 00:09:18 is putting your credit card information into the nike app because the second you do that and i i did that with a few drinks in me you then don't really ever think like you're really buying anything it knows your size and it has your credit card info so you could be like up late like when you go to vegas exactly yeah it just had you know what i mean when you go to Vegas and right and those chips look like they're little candy and you just toss them on the table the next thing you know you don't have a home anymore just putting it out there
Starting point is 00:09:54 anyway Shea Serrano is with us today so without further ado we should get into the show with a little bit of a 5, 6, 7, 8. Here's some stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love to hate. I said here's some stories that we all should know.
Starting point is 00:10:18 So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch show with Zach and Donald Hey now ladies and gentlemen give it up for Shay Serrano Turn your keys on for thunderous applause for Shay
Starting point is 00:10:38 He turned sir Shay we've had a lot of people on this podcast since we had you. And I think you're by far everyone's favorite guest. I'm probably, I'm a solid 15th place finisher. People love you, dude.
Starting point is 00:10:57 When we hung up with you, Donald was like, Oh my God. He's like, he was perfect. He was such a good guest. Oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:05 that's because we talked about basketball for for 30 minutes and it's back holy shit and it's back we finally got back together oh my gosh did you watch did you watch dame that's i was about to ask you that right dame dollar dame time let's go listen what a fucking champion. He's playing like one right now. That whole team looks good. Him, Nurchick, freaking Mello. Oh, Mello has been great. Yeah. The crazy thing is CJ got a broken back, and he's destroying right now.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I don't understand. I don't understand. I was going to ask y'all about that because y'all are doctors, how you can break your back and get better at basketball. Right. He's doing a little too much dribbling for me. He's doing a little too much James Harden when he gets the ball. Well, you got to dribble, Donald.
Starting point is 00:11:51 When you walk, when you move, you got to dribble. No doubt. And if you don't, you get what's called traveling, and the referee goes like this. Right, no doubt. But he's dribbling at a point where it makes the offense kind of just stand still and watch. And sometimes he makes it
Starting point is 00:12:06 like the the beautiful thing about portland and i can't believe i'm saying this because i am not a trailblazers fan but i am a mellow i am a dame i am a cj and i am a nerd you're a blazers fan because that's the starting lineup right with me let me ask you guys hold up let me finish hold let me finish the thing about that is though they're a great one-on-one team. One-on-one. Each one of those guys will give you the business. Yeah. It's amazing to me that their team ball is in such good shape right now.
Starting point is 00:12:37 You know what I mean? Melo has saved them several times, and it's the same play. It's the same play. From the top to the corner, splash three. Same time. I love it. Dame time. Dame time from half court.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Dame time. Let me ask you guys something, because I saw some of this basketball on TV, and I was just taking in the whole thing with the fans, the projected fans. You can spend money and be a fake fan in the stands, right? Not a fake fan. You don't even have to pay for it. You just apply. It's like fill out a little form, and then they pick you out of that.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh, I want to do that. Donald, we should do that. You could 100% make that happen. Yeah, let's make that happen. I want to make that happen. And I wanted to know, as hardcore basketball fans like you guys if if you know obviously it's weird you you know this whole bubble thing but if if you were still if you thought the games were noticeably different are the scores higher or lower like what are
Starting point is 00:13:36 what are what's different without the fans shay you want to take this the presentation for the games has been outstanding it does not it does not feel any different to me. If anything, everything feels a little more heightened because you know they're all stuck there. Like, I don't know if you play, like, AAU basketball or, like, any sort of tournament basketball when you show up at one location and all of the teams are there just sort of wandering around
Starting point is 00:13:59 and it becomes, like, a very tribal sort of experience. You're, like, with your team and only your team and like we're enemies with those. It's been so much fun to watch. I've been really, really impressed. Yeah, not only that, what I really enjoy is that there's no such thing as home court advantage now.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, that's crazy. Right? I love that. I love the fact that everybody's playing on neutral ground. So what, sorry, again, I'm the voice of people that don't follow sports at all so a team with a with a die-hard fan base would genuinely have a an advantage right because absolutely they're loud they're loud they're rooting you on and so you're feeling that energy
Starting point is 00:14:37 while you're playing like i remember i played in this thing called the i talk about this all the time i played in this thing called the nba entertainment league and we made it to the conference finals one year and you know it's a neutral it was pretty much played on the same court and the only time you would have you know fans there was when you bought your family so if i bought my girlfriend at the time she would be cheering for me so in the conference finals we played up we played against Jamie Foxx's team, right? Okay. And Jamie, being the genius that he is, he was like, let's pack the stands with nothing but our friends. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:17 I love it. And so, you know, it seems like it's a regular game. I look up at the stands. I'm like, wow, it's packed in here today. But that's normal you know it's two high profile teams in the league playing against each other where you know my team had a bunch of celebrities on it jamie foxx was on the other team you know what i mean and so it was like okay i get it people want to see us ball and we come out we're doing warm-ups and everything like that and And then the game starts. And it's clear that everybody's there for Jamie's team.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Like everybody's there. So smart. And so the first couple of plays, I come down, I pop a three, right? The next play, I come down, I pop another three. And everybody in the crowd's like, oh, it's kind of silent. And I'm screaming at my team, let's go. And then Jamie's team starts to score, and they're freaking cheering for them. And then they're chanting, here we go Spurs, let's go Spurs.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? And I looked up and there was a girl that- You were toast, you were toast. I knew we were toast because I looked up into the stands and there was a girl that I knew we were toast because I looked up into the stands and there was a girl that I used to date and she was in the stands rooting for Jamie Foxx's team and when she saw me look at her I looked at her like what the fuck are you doing she shrugged like sorry it's excellent one of my one of my favorite things about uh anytime you talk to somebody about basketball who plays basketball,
Starting point is 00:16:46 and inevitably they would tell you a story about a game they played at. As soon as they start talking, they do what Donald just did with the, like, mimicking the dribbling. They start doing this every time. It's my favorite thing to listen to. The shoulder shake. Everybody got a little bit of dream in them. Everybody got a little Akeem the dream in them. That's how you know the story is about to get good, when they do that move right there. Are they photographing? Are they filming the games any differently?
Starting point is 00:17:10 I thought Bill Lawrence said something to me about like they're doing some like experimental way of shooting it to make it more exciting, or am I wrong? Go ahead. They brought back this camera view that they had at the All-Star game about 15 or 18 years ago, where it's basically court level, and it moves back and forth, and you can watch it that way. So they show that one every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:17:32 But generally, it all looks the same. It feels the same. It's really, really well done. So this sport, as far as team sports, it seems like, am I right that NBA has handled this the best? As far as COVID goes, absolutely. Baseball shut down fucking two days in or whatever. It turns out this is a bad idea. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Let's be honest. The NBA has always had, in my opinion, the best commissioner. Yeah, for sure. From Stern to Silver. Ever since Stern took over, the best commissioner who actually cares for their, the, the, the league's players. Not, not to say that Goodell and, and whoever the commissioner of baseball is right now, don't care for,
Starting point is 00:18:15 you know, the, I think you could say Goodell doesn't care. I didn't want to put that out there. I didn't want to put that out there, but you did, but you know. I'll put it out there, yeah. But, you know, Adam Silver is by far the best commissioner in sports right now. Outstanding. He's outstanding. By far. By far. And the product that he's put up on the television for us fans to watch has made it so enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:18:48 So they all live in the same, they're living on Disney World, right? Disney World, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My World of Sports campus. And they, so they all, is there like, do they all get to hang out or are there like bars and shit? Yeah, that's been like one of the really fun parts of watching all this happen because if you follow any of the players on social media or any of the teams
Starting point is 00:19:09 that you always get like these shots of this group went out fishing together or they were at the wherever together just sort of hanging out doing stuff there was a really good one last night mike connelly mike connelly who plays for the jazz he had to leave for personal reasons and he came back and he was doing his quarantine and after the jazz won the game uh donovan mitchell has been balling like fucking crazy for them went by and they were like filming mike through the through the window and he's just sort of saying how it was like a really sweet sort of tender moment like this is fucking how long do you have to quarantine two weeks if you go home i think it's something like seven days yeah with with connelly he was
Starting point is 00:19:45 getting he was getting tested while he was out so that he could come back quicker so i think they were making him do i think like four days but it's usually it's a handful of days yeah rondo's gonna be back four days i mean i heard that like 80 of symptoms show in 10 days or something like that please don't quote me on that and don't judge your life on that i'm just fucking recalling from memory but um but i guess if you're getting tested every day it's it's different i mean you would at least know if you have a test every like twice yeah yeah yeah yeah um it's amazing welcome back to the show man we uh we really love having you on and uh and the fans love your insight and you can speak way wiser about these episodes than
Starting point is 00:20:27 Donald and I can. We can just talk about it. I'm so nervous to do the recap right now because I know that... Oh yeah, Shay, you gotta see the new segment. I know that Shay is like the king of recaps. We should have had Shay write one too so you guys could have like a 30 second one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
Starting point is 00:20:47 no no no no because then everybody would be like let's just have shay do the freaking recap i'm excited after donald's recap to talk about the first thing that came to my mind and i want to talk about i'm just gonna t i'm gonna do what's called teasing donald and radio we talk about something we're gonna talk about after your recap I would not have the patience to wait around for Carla if she was like, I need to think about it. I need to think about it. I need to think about it. I'd be like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:12 You don't need to think that hard. We'll get into it. Let's start. Let's start. I was a tease. That was a tease. Hold on. Let me get my stopwatch ready.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I got to do it in 30 seconds. Okay. Lick your lips. Fuck you. And I want you to look good for Shay. Ready? And go. Dr. Cox becomes the storyteller in this episode and we learn that he's not
Starting point is 00:21:33 the altogether guy we think he is. Elliot meets someone who works at the hospital and is surprised when she finds out that he is a nurse. Turk tries to figure out what he's doing wrong to make Carla have to think about his proposal. How we're perceived by others, although sometimes it may be positive,
Starting point is 00:21:52 isn't necessarily who we are. Getting to know someone and being open to others truly is the only way to find out who they are. And that's it. Beautiful. But it's true. This whole episode is... And you know what?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Shay, you know what? I know why you wanted to do this episode. Because this is an episode on perception. And this whole episode is about who we think somebody is because of either what they do or how they present themselves isn't necessarily who they are when you really get to know them.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And we don't know this stuff. Like the whole thing with Cox and how, you know, from the beginning of the show, you know he had some issues, but you think he's this put-together guy whose strength is the fact that he's this alpha male. But that's his weakness, it turns out to be in this episode. In real talk, he's a very weak man. He's good at his job. He's good at training these kids.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But he's a weak, weak man. He has real problems. man, he has real problems. Don't you find, like, stereotypically, the guy with the biggest fucking ego and screaming at everyone and being just an insane narcissist is very often incredibly insecure? Well, when you say narcissist, yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:17 I definitely feel that way. But I don't look at LeBron James like, oh, man, LeBron's a weak dude. You know what I mean? I look at him like, yo, he can carry a team. He has the strength to carry, to hold men up. And it would, it would be crazy to me if, when we, if, when getting to know LeBron James, if he turned out to be this dude who has a problem speaking up and has a problem with confrontation. And you know what I mean? These things would be, it would blow my mind is my point.
Starting point is 00:23:49 But I'll let Shay talk about it. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty, pretty close to the reason that I wanted to do this one. When, when Joel reached out, all of the very best TV shows are the very best TV shows because of the relationships that they are able to make you care about. Peggy and Don in Mad Men, Jim and Pam in The Office, Avon and Stringer in The Wire, Arabella, and pretty much anyone on I May Destroy You. Because that thing, that interpersonal connection with someone else is not only something that we sort of understand implicitly, but also it's something that we all want and need and pursue and the more ways that a show can press that button in your chest
Starting point is 00:24:32 the sort of higher up the rankings that can climb it's the same reason that so many people respond to you two on this show it feels like you get to be a part of y'all's relationship which is very clearly a special thing so when joel reached out and asked which episode i wanted to do like i i knew that this one had to be the one mind you there are some really great episodes in season two you have the the uh colin hay overkill episode which i would argue is the first truly iconic scrubs music cue and scrubs is the best show ever at using music and this was the first time we saw how exceptional they were going to be at that one so you have that when you have jd's brother getting introduced into the show you have turk coming through for carla when her mom passes away like there are a lot of those of those moments but i especially enjoy this one
Starting point is 00:25:18 because a we get very good glimpses of several of the relationships in the show. And then B, we get Carla and Turk officially getting engaged. And that Carla and Turk relationship is, I would argue, among the very best romantic relationship portrayals that any television show has ever offered. I agree with that wholeheartedly, man. And not because I was a part of it. But their dynamic is very much similar to the dynamic that my wife and I have. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:48 I'm the immature one, and she's the one that freaking grounds us. You know what I mean? And that's the exact same thing that Carla and Turk have. I agree with that. I like that you were so passionate. When I reached out to Shay on Twitter, I said, we want to have you back. I hope you'll come back. We want to have you back. I hope you'll come back. We want to have you back at least once a season.
Starting point is 00:26:08 You pick. And by the way, I said this to Shay before I said it to Johnny C, before I said it to anybody, any other cast members. I was like, Shay, whatever episode you want. And he's like, within like five minutes, he's like, it probably would have been quicker if you'd probably seen the tweet earlier. But right when he saw it, he was like no doubt his story his story by far guys i have to pause you right here for a special announcement hold please interrupting bill oh my god he's got
Starting point is 00:26:36 a new segment called interrupting bill it's the new segment when i interrupt your podcast whenever i want and ask you a question that i can then get to listen to the answer to I hope there's good music from Daniel or Joelle guys play this whenever you want uh look I love this episode uh his story uh and I'm psyched that you two are there Zach Donald hey Shay hey uh I love that Eric Boghossian's in there because of his relationship with Johnny C um I think it's got the most romantic song at the end. It was. I think that song's still in the online cut, the question by the old 97s. If you want to talk about it, we actually started with the song first in this one
Starting point is 00:27:12 because we knew we wanted to kind of have a cool proposal underneath this music. But your question is, can you tell me, there was a joke in this episode that got us the most vitriolic complaint and a actual letter of admonishment from a national organization uh that thought the joke was incredibly offensive um probably more of a stern letter than i got from any national organization can you tell me what that joke was i know the answer can i go yeah it actually hit me um and i was surprised by it again this is a product
Starting point is 00:27:49 of 20 years ago but when kelso makes fun of ricky schroeder for being a nurse and he says because you're doing a woman's job and um i think that i imagine it was the nursing association or some national medical nursing association or maybe it was the AMA. I don't know. We said, A, that's bullshit and stop perpetuating that. And B, there is such a shortage of nurses. is convincing men that they shouldn't pursue this very noble profession. And if you want to be a show that celebrates the medical profession, you're actually hurting us by putting old, antiquated stereotypes on the nursing profession. That's my guess. Dan, is he right? Let's find out.
Starting point is 00:28:44 The answer is when Paul says, Paul, the nurse played by Rick Schroeder says, Elliot's embarrassed to date me because I'm a nurse and I don't know why. Kelso's response is, well, son, it's because it's a woman's job. The National Organization of Nurses admonished us and sent us a letter saying that we really set things back and how offensive they found that, which I understand. But also I would argue that Kelso was supposed to be that kind of old school guy from a sexist era that would believe and say things like that. That said, I'm not surprised. And we got that reaction. And this is my official, I'm sorry. My favorite joke in this episode, actually, randomly,
Starting point is 00:29:28 was when Sarah Chalk just throws away a very matter-of-fact sad thing, which she does a lot. She's like, hey, I didn't break up with Paul because he's a nurse, so stop putting bedpans in my locker. It makes me cry. I always love that. Two other pieces of trivia. One, this is the first episode that was narrated by another character completely.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And two, this is the introduction of another fan favorite recur character, Patient, played by one of our stuntmen. You should be able to answer this. So I'm not giving you the answer. I'll be back in a few minutes with another interruption. Oh, my God. He's going to go, first of all, all right, he's going to need to calm down, all right? I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Bill, I appreciate the new segment, but it was a little long, and no offense, and now we're told there's more. I'm all right with it. I'm all right. Little by little, little by little, it becomes like Donald and I are like, just like five minutes of the podcast, just Bill just monologuing. Just Bill right with it. I'm all right. Little by little, little by little, it becomes like Donald and I are like, just like five minutes of the podcast, it's Bill just monologuing.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's just Bill talking about it. Well, since Bill brought it up, let's all talk about it, because I think that was something that was shocking. And by the way, we can all address the fact that one thing the show highlights, and Shay, you'll be able to articulate this better than Donald and I, is masculinity and stereotypical masculinity and what that means and how Ricky Schroeder was playing this guy who's very handsome and he's charming and she immediately looked down upon him because he was a nurse.
Starting point is 00:30:57 She was literally embarrassed to be seen with him because he was a nurse. Yeah, it's an interesting dichotomy here because a thing that happens in this episode that often happens in in scrubs episode is you have two storylines happening at the same time that don't seem like they're related but like philosophically they are related so you have what donald was mentioning earlier with dr cox uh very clearly we get to see how destructive his masculinity is in his life like this sort of traditional overt i don't need anybody um persona that he has we see the back side of it and it's like oh he's fucking miserable and he has to watch this and he finished watching the game he's got a
Starting point is 00:31:38 stack of pizza boxes because he thought people were going to show up like this is a very sad moment so you have that going and then on the other side of it the total opposite side of that is you have this other person who's clearly an advanced individual uh rick's character and he like you're saying he's smart and funny and charming and handsome but he can't get a fair shake either like he's doing the thing you're supposed to do and people are looking down on him here we're we're we're sort of uh idolizing this one character secretly his life is falling apart over here we're looking down on this other character and he's got all of his shit together but we just don't appreciate what it is that he's doing right shay i'm so happy you're here
Starting point is 00:32:21 i think we should i think we should cut Bill's interruptions and just have Shay interrupt. Bill will not like that. Bill won't like that. Bill won't like that. You know, let's talk for a second about Rick Schroeder, because we,
Starting point is 00:32:35 I don't know about you, Shay, but Donald, and I guess I don't know about you with this regard, but Silver Spoons was on my watch list. Dude, the champ. Just let's go back to watch list. Dude, the champ. Let's go back to the champ. Okay, the champ I never saw. You never saw the champ?
Starting point is 00:32:50 I never saw the champ. I think it's Rick Schroeder and Jon Voight plays the champ. Yes. And I know that Rick Schroeder cried in a way that no one had ever seen a kid cry in a movie and it was heartbreaking. It's a tough watch. Come on, champ! Like, rick schroeder when i was a kid you know it was so ricky rick had the show and then when
Starting point is 00:33:13 they introduced alfonso ribeiro to the show that's when i was hooked what oh because they brought in a young handsome black man and you were like oh go on well yeah you know absolutely as a young african-american male it's always great to see well i didn't i'm not gonna say handsome because that's that's up for other people to decide but but it's always great to see somebody representing you on screen so yeah when they brought in alfonso and he was doing all the Michael Jackson stuff, that show became even more to me. But absolutely. Silver Spoons, in my opinion, was one of those shows that I would look to watch because of the relationships that Rick had with his dad and with his friends. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:01 This was this kid who was extremely rich and wasn't a dick about all of his money. He was very much like, you know, everybody come and experience what me and my dad have. That being said, yes, I want to give a quick shout out to Jason Bateman, who was the bad guy on Silver Spoons back in the day. I forgot about that. A lot of people don't remember this. I forgot about that. Was that Jason's first part? I don't know, but from that point on,
Starting point is 00:34:28 he became a star. I think they even did a spinoff from Silver Spoon starring Jason Bateman where he and some other dude would constantly play pranks on each other. I'm going to go with your digression and say Jason Bateman has had the most epic, awesome career.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I mean, he's started at such a young age and has and has done so much great work. And now in this new chapter directing, I mean, I don't know if you're watching Ozark, but his his direction on Ozark is extraordinary. And and it's just it's just so, you know, there's so few people that can start that young and then go this long he was on Little House that's right Jason and I made a film called The X
Starting point is 00:35:14 which it's kind of a B plus okay but I think you'll laugh if you get a chance check out The X it's Jason and Charles Grodin and, uh, and Amanda Pete,
Starting point is 00:35:29 Fred Armisen, uh, Mia Farrow. I mean, it has an amazing, amazing cast. And I think you'll giggle at it. It's a good,
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Starting point is 00:38:52 And we're back! Silver Spoons, yeah, I mean, I really loved it. I thought, like, it was, I think every kid dreamed of having that kind of wealth. I mean, and also a father who was so young and fun. Like, remember, there was a train. They had a rideable train that would go through the living room. And I just remember thinking, and there was a remote control that opened the front door. And there were arcade games in the living room.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And I just thought like, you know, it was clearly targeted at whatever age i was and and i just thought it was so exciting and then they had a very special episode we talked about this once on the podcast before where back in the day when a sitcom would have a dramatic episode here we were on a show that would have lots of drama but on a traditional three camera, you know, in front live and from an audience sitcom, they would go, they would give a warning. They would be like tonight on a very special episode of Silver Spoons. We recommend parents watch with their children. And that was the episode when, when Rick, they called him the Ricker, the Ricker shot
Starting point is 00:40:01 a deer. And then the Ricker was really upset that he killed the deer. He regretted killed the deer he regretted killing the deer do you remember anybody remember this i don't remember that i don't the thing that i remember most about that show is the theme song here we are face to face A couple of silver spoons Hoping to find We're two of a kind Making it go Making it grow
Starting point is 00:40:30 Together We're gonna find our way Together Making a time each day To learn all about Those things you just can't find I think you should have gone falsetto there. Can't find
Starting point is 00:40:49 Silver spoons together This is when you go falsetto. You and I I used to love that. That's a good song. So Alfonso came on as the best friend And he was doing lots of dancing Like Michael Jackson style dancing
Starting point is 00:41:09 As all black people do On television shows When introduced Listen We can talk about this How many times did I dance on this motherfucking show How about that let's go there Well okay in fairness you're a very good dancer.
Starting point is 00:41:26 So is Alfonso. And I think any performer that you bring onto a TV show, you're gonna go, what are they great at? Let's fucking use everything they're great at. The West Wing didn't have Dulé tap dance. And Dulé tap dance?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Dulé's one of the best tap dancers in the world. I didn't know that. One of the best tap dancers in the world. I didn't know that. One of the best tap dancers in the world is Dulé Hill. Okay, well, if I was Aaron Sorkin, I would have been like, you guys. We got to find a way to get Dulé to tap dance. I didn't know that about Dulé. One of the best in the world.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Speaking of tap dancing, I was a kid and I saw Alfonso in The Tap Dance Kid on Broadway, which was a tap dance musical. Dulé Hill was also one of the tap dance kids. That's how good he was. Oh, wow. Alfonso did it on Broadway. Alfonso originated it on Broadway. I don't know how good of a tap dancer Alfonso is, but he was the first uh one on Broadway to play it and then Savion and Dulé
Starting point is 00:42:26 I think did the tour uh Savion took over for uh Alfonso and then it became a completely different show then it became more about the the tap from what I recall I could be wrong don't get it I just remember as a kid who was loved Broadway and spectacle that at certain point there was like a cable car that went across the stage like like you know in you know big broadway budget musicals will have some big set moment where you're like oh my god look at that and their moment was like the cable car road it must have been i imagining it's the 59th street uh what do you call it it takes place in harlem it takes place in uh new y takes place in New York City. Well, I think he rode that thing.
Starting point is 00:43:10 You know that thing that goes to, what's the island next to Manhattan? And they have a cable car that goes to it. Staten Island? No. You know that weird little island that's next to Manhattan? Donald, you grew up on the fucking island. You don't know where it is? Joel, where's the cable car? It's on 59th Street.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I know what you're talking about. On the east side. I know what you're talking about. And what's the name of the island it goes to. You don't know where it is? Joel, where is the cable car? It's on 59th Street. I know what you're talking about. On the east side. I know what you're talking about. And what's the name of the island it goes to? I don't know where that shit goes. I never rode that shit. Don't yell at me. I'm not yelling, but that's like me.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I'm from New York. Ask me if I've ever been to the Statue of Liberty. Have you ever been to the Statue of Liberty? I have not been to the Statue of Liberty. Why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate freedom? Ask me this. Ask me if when the World Trade Center was up,
Starting point is 00:43:47 if I had ever been to the top of the World Trade Center. I'm going to guess the answer is no. Right. Ask me if I've ever been to the top of the Empire State Building. Have you been to the top of the Empire State Building? No, man. I'm from New York. I'm from there.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Have you ever been to the Roosevelt Island tramway? Oh, Roosevelt Island So for those of you who have no idea what we're talking about there's a little mini island next to Manhattan and it's called Roosevelt Island and there's like a whole community there
Starting point is 00:44:18 and there is a tram a cable car thing that goes over there and tourists often ride it. But also I think people that live there ride it. We should probably get back to the show. I know. We should get in the episode.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Sorry. We digress. We digress from digressions. First of all. Let's talk about the cold open. Judy. Fucking great platform in the beginning. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Good for Judy. I love it when Judy gets comedy. Because she always was concerned that she wasn't getting enough comedy And whenever I see her do a pratfall Now I'm happy Because she nails the door She nails it And it's very funny
Starting point is 00:44:54 I was going to say, we already brought it up But The Ricker joins us, man And now we can't talk about Silver Spoons Because we already talked about it The Ricker The Ricker was on another TV show for a while. Was it NYPD Blue, I think? Something like that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Or Law and Order, something like that. Joel, will you look that up? Yeah, so he had a long career. But he was doing that at the same time he did Scrubs, right? Yeah. If I'm correct. So I remember that he was on a series at the time. And the diner I just thought was interesting was our cafeteria.
Starting point is 00:45:27 For some reason, they decided to read. Do you remember this, Donald? That whole diner set that we go to twice was built into our cafeteria. For a little bit. I do remember. And I don't know why they did that. They spent a lot of money, for some reason, converting the hospital cafeteria into a diner. And that's not something
Starting point is 00:45:45 I don't think the cafeteria ever became anything else again other than this time it became a diner with Sean too though where Sean gets real fat oh then maybe they did I don't recall I just remember there's something on the blooper reel
Starting point is 00:46:01 that happened I think it was a spit bucket or something if anyone's that curious you can consult the on the blooper reel that happened. I think it was a spit bucket or something. If you can. So if anyone's that curious, you could consult the season two blooper reel. But I remember something happened with this, this, this ketchup gag on your face. And. Oh, dude. No, I remember what happened.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I remember what happened with the ketchup. It was a spit bucket. No, it wasn't a spit bucket. The ketchup gag to my face made. I said to the camera. Oh, now I know what a porn star feels like. Oh. That didn't make it to air?
Starting point is 00:46:30 That did not make it to air. That didn't make it to air. On Scrubs Wiki, they mentioned that you can see the little hose that's going to your fake one. Go on. Go on. They can see the hose that's running to your fake ketchup bottle That splatters all over your face
Starting point is 00:46:48 If you're interested in fuck ups You can see that Okay I thought you were going to say something else No I'm also I got annoyed with Turk This episode
Starting point is 00:47:00 Me too Like dude Because he just keeps asking her to marry him yeah i mean it's embarrassing it is embarrassing over and over and over again so much to him standing on top of a car at the end of our cold open honk for love honk for love and everybody's honking because they want these two jackasses to get out of the street as jd runs down the freaking runs through traffic but that was kind of cute though of jd well obviously this first time is to set up the second time and the second time literally gave me full body goosebumps because i thought it was so romantic and sweet very much
Starting point is 00:47:40 where did you come from the second time where the fuck did you come from the second time how did you know that was going down from a text? Well, what happened? I mean, I have questions about how that happened anyway. Like, so she said, come meet me just as you're about to go fucking on your first date. By the way, you didn't waste any time. Well, you know. She was like vanilla or chocolate.
Starting point is 00:48:00 She's like, you know, I like that chocolate. Dude. I like that chocolate Dude You know I like that chocolate Also the motherfucker finished He finished the chili dog in front of her He ate the whole thing In front of her
Starting point is 00:48:18 I thought it was weird So we're jumping ahead So let's just go back to sparklers So I just have a problem And Shay what are your thoughts on this? The guy is, I just felt if it was real life and I asked the love of my life to marry me and she was like, maybe I need to think about it, that I would really be turned off. I would be like, well, why am I so sure of this?
Starting point is 00:48:41 And you're not. And Donald and Turk's technique is just keep asking and asking and asking. I think, well, I think there are different versions of, of guys, but this is very much a guy trait when she is telling you exactly what she needs right now.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I just need some space. And you were like, that's not actually what you need. What you need is me to just figure out a way to say this differently and bigger and better. And I can prove to you how much i love you and like that's a that's a thing that a lot of a lot of guys do but you get the sense that somebody like like turk in the show who is very used to his whole life having to
Starting point is 00:49:16 either a fight for something a little bit harder than everybody else is having a fight for or b just wanting to win at every single thing he participates in which is like another thing we see in the show like it would make sense that he would react this way to this particular thing you know right well that's a good point he turns it into like he turns it into a athletic competition he's like i'm gonna do a bigger and better proposal this time i'm gonna stand on a car you know yeah. In real life, when I met my wife, after Zach stepped to her and said, he likes you, I would run into her over and over again. And every time I ran into her, I would ask for her number.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And she would do something that Carla's doing. Carla's not saying no. She's just saying saying give me time and my wife now my wife before i would ask her out every time i saw her let me just get that number why don't you give me that number what would she be like she would be like not this this is this is the fucked up shit she would be like not this time probably next time i see you i'll give it so it meant okay so not this time so now i'm trying to figure out new ways and she would do things where it would be like i'd be out and about with a girl and she'd come up to me and be like hey how's it going
Starting point is 00:50:36 and i'd forget about the girl and be like oh shit but how are you doing let's let's go out on a date forget this girl i'm really into you and she'd be like not this time but next time you ask me i'll probably give it to you every time we talk about casey i love her more her game is her game is tight and then just like turk turk goes you know what i'm done doing this shit. This is some bullshit. I've jumped through hoops enough. I'm no longer going to do it. Then she accepts the proposal.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And the same thing with my wife. I finally said, you know what? I'm not going to pursue this anymore. She's playing me like I'm a freaking, like I'm lotto, like I'm the lottery. So I'm not going to, I'm not going to push her anymore. She's playing me like I'm a freaking, like I'm lotto, like I'm the lottery. So I'm not going to, I'm not going to push her anymore. And she comes back at me and she's like, Hey, how's it going? And I remember it was me, you, the girl you were dating at the time and Josh Radin, we were at Hyde and she goes, Hey, how's it going? And I look up and I go, Hey, how's it going? And I go back to our company. We were talking. And she goes, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Well, you know, I was going to give you my number, but I guess now I won't. Oh, but don't you think, but come on, buddy. Don't you think the only reason she flipped was because now you gave her the cold shoulder? And she was like, what, bro? But I think that's why Carla flipped also. She was asking for the space. And then Turk finally gives her the space. And she's like, well, okay, I need him in my life.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I'm realizing right now i want him in my life the fact that i don't know what he did that he's not working today is a big deal for me uh because i know everything about the guy and so therefore uh shit what am i doing this dude just asked me to marry him and this is what i've always wanted fuck yeah i want to marry you and that's when the switch happened the switch switch happened when she realized, oh shit, there's a possibility he might not be around for me anymore. It's amazing how people quickly change when we shift who we're being. Like the second, you know, it's like a game of ping pong and I'm hitting like this, I'm hitting like this, I'm hitting like this. The second I do something completely different and put spin on it, you then have to react and do it differently. And it's just, I know I'm hitting like this, I'm hitting like this, I'm hitting like this. The second I do something completely different and put spin on it,
Starting point is 00:52:45 you then have to react and do it differently. And it's just, I know I'm stating the obvious, but it's interesting in just in human relationships, how we get stuck in this rut. I'm being, Turk's being this way, he's being this way, he's being this way. All of a sudden he just shifts, like, and then she has to shift to react. I mean, it's a very powerful communications tool that i don't know that we knowingly marshal enough you know what i mean like it's it it's like all you needed was to stop
Starting point is 00:53:13 being so desperate and then she shifted i think he needed to not only did he need to give her the space but it needed to happen in the way that it happened because i think that that's what sort of jogs her memory and and allows her to connect everything back to like oh this is like a fear i have because of a thing that happened in my past you know what i'm saying this is not just like oh i just need for him to not be available for him or for a few minutes this is more i have a thing in my head that i need to work my way through and by him acting the way that he did it finally helped her figure out exactly what it was that she wanted and what it was that she that she needed.
Starting point is 00:53:47 You know, it was less about just like, I'm just not going to be here anymore. There's more about all of the other parts of it, what that all meant. And then him finally like breaking away and then her realizing, oh, this is because of like my own things that I have going on. Not because of him, because that's like I think he keeps trying to figure out like what it is about. Is it about me? Is it because you don't like this? Is it because you don't like that? And it turns out it was not any of those things. It was like her own stuff that she had to wrestle with first.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Right. Donald, when Casey finally gave in and went on a date with you, did you guys click right away? Yeah, well, that was the thing. So you know me and Daniel,iel shay joelle you guys are getting to know me the type of person i like to be around is somebody who's fun and enjoys moments you know what i mean and i could tell from one dance with her that she was funny and that she enjoyed you know just moments living in the moment being living in the moment right was special to her and so i knew look if i could just get this
Starting point is 00:54:53 young lady out on a date with me i will be i can be me completely and i think she'll bounce off of it we have something there's something about that that energy that we have that spark that we have that's undeniable and you know the fact that she's pushing me away but telling me to come close is proof that she feels it too and so from the first date on we were to you know i we went out on a date and we and the next day we were together and the day after that we were together until we got married. And we've been together ever since. But it only took one date because I knew she's going to enjoy what I have to offer.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And I'm definitely going to enjoy what she has to offer. And we sat down at a dingy-ass pizza restaurant that's no longer around and talk shit about our lives and then we went to the dime which was right next door to the dingy ass pizza restaurant and ran into my old friend jessica micardo that's when i knew i was like this is this is this has got to work and she was on the first date with the man she's now married to uh michelle paige was spinning dj michelle paige for those of y'all who don't know yeah it just i just knew i knew that once we hung out i knew that we would have a lot of fun together so yeah we clicked like we were as far as gump would say we were
Starting point is 00:56:17 like peas and carrots you know what i mean right away peas and carrots let's talk about um johnny c taking over the voiceover so this was the first time this has ever happened um and the first time a title of the show has moved from my such and such to his story or her story or what have you um and then and bill establishing the convention of when it does happen uh uh the some of the person is sort of tapped and uh it gets it goes into their body i don't know who the next one was was it you donald or was it so i think sarah's next sarah's next and then were you was it once a season that we did it yeah yeah yeah and then we introduced eric boghossian who uh those who don't know eric boghossian is an amazing writer and actor and um when when johnny c was on and he told that story of doing the play Talk Radio, where he forgot his lines and he was late.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And Talk Radio is an incredible play, mostly a kind of a major epic monologue by Eric Boghossian, who wrote it. And Johnny C asked him to come on and play his shrink in this episode. So we also learn that Johnny's in therapy and at least trying. At least, even though he and his shrink have a very contentious relationship,
Starting point is 00:57:37 he's at least trying to do work on himself. Cox is in therapy because of Jordan, though. If I'm correct, right? I think he's in therapy just because he's a miserable human being. No, but I think one of the reasons why he did it was to, if we go back to when Jordan says, you know, when him and Jordan are starting to get back together again, when she walks out on him after he was supposed to do the speech for Kelso, and he talks about Kelso like he's an evil person. I think one of the things he says to Jordan, if I'm correct, I could be wrong, he says, look, I'm doing therapy now like you wanted me to do back in the day
Starting point is 00:58:13 so I can work out my problems. I could be wrong. I don't think I am. But, you know, I think all of the things that he's going through right now, at least the therapy session that he's going through, was because of him wanting to get back with Jordan. I would like to ask Bill, but he won't answer this shit anymore, so.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Well, we have a new format with Bill, as you know. Bill interrupts and goes on four-minute monologues. That's the new... Okay, we're going to take a break, and when we come back, we are going to have a very thrilling guest. And you know how I know that? Because Joelle is the person that picks them.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And also, we're going to fix their life. Oh, yeah, in our new segment. And Shay's going to help us. We're going to fix this person's life. Shay's like, what did I sign up for? I didn't know about this part. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 01:02:22 those are all an important part of the story. It's the way that the people are experiencing reyedong along with the musicians. Listen to El Flow as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Craig! Spoke to me, my stomach right now, guys. I'm so excited. I want the audience to know that you're wearing a very dope
Starting point is 01:03:09 Selena shirt that Daniel's already on. Thank you. That was for Shay. I wore that for Shay. I appreciate it. You a big Selena fan? Me? Every Mexican loves Selena. They play it at the hospital when you're born.
Starting point is 01:03:24 You come out to Bidi Bidi Bom Bom. love Selena. They play it at the hospital when you're born. You come out to Biddy Biddy Bom Bom. At your baptism, at your wedding, at your funeral. I thought it would be... I could fall in love. Different songs for different... That's later on in your life.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Thank you. Where are you calling from, Chris? I'm in Phoenix. I'm just right next to you guys here. Phoenix in the house. It's 185 degrees every day. It's got to be burning right now. This is 106 right now in the valley.
Starting point is 01:03:58 What's it for you? Today is the first day in 45 days that it's under 110 degrees and it's only 109 today so we're like hell yeah chris can you feel the difference can you even go outside or are you just like no fuck it no pools are like just hot tea you can't even go in your pool. I grew up playing outside. I grew up being like, I can do this.
Starting point is 01:04:27 But now I'm 32 and I'm like, I'm so miserable. I'm irritated. I just, two minutes, you just go to your car to get something that you forgot and you're like, just the pissiest person in the world. It's awful. You know, Chris, you know what's trending today? The meme of me going, it's so hot! Everyone in Phoenix every day. And I send that to so many people.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And they're like, people from Seattle, people from New York. I got friends in Chicago. And I'm like, don't even talk to me right now because it's awful. How are you, man? Welcome to the show. Welcome, welcome. You got a question for us all And obviously including the legendary
Starting point is 01:05:08 Shea Serrano we can all answer for you I do have a couple questions One is for Zach here First with just the music because I love the music So much and Scrubs My first partial question is who is a Jeremy Kay fan? Because you guys use like Three or four Jeremy Kay songs in the first
Starting point is 01:05:23 Season or two do you know maybe it's not Zach there's a couple it's not me I because I mean I'm sure I loved it but I have to say um the most underappreciated voice in choosing music was was Krista Miller because um yeah she's one it's music is her passion and um she really um kind took, you know, would be, you know, I've said this before. What we would do is we would just fill like huge playlists of potential songs in the Avid, the computer we use. And, you know, kind of grouped by genre, like, oh, this should be sort of a melancholy, heartbreaking thing. Oh, this should be uplifting and exciting. Oh, this should be comedic.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And it was about and lots of people would contribute like oh my god you guys have to use this song um but i think and then you know you just try it until in in the computer until you go my joke with all the stuff i've created is if it's an emotional moment like i do the goose bump on the arm test like you can play your favorite song over and over and over again but if it doesn't match with the with the with the moment in the show it the magic doesn't happen and and even a song you've been thinking about forever you go oh man i really would have thought this would have been perfect here but it doesn't work and then all of a sudden someone goes try this song you're
Starting point is 01:06:38 like nah it's not gonna work and they go just try it try it and you try it and you go oh shit every hair on my arm is standing up some some little piece of magic has happened um but no i have to i have to really be able to shout out to krista who who um i think was you know really the most in charge of music yeah that's like i think the scrubs is the best that is just matching the tone with the song you guys pick and then the follow-up question is okay zach and don, if you guys made this show in 2020, what artists or songs are you using now? Oh, let me tell you something right now.
Starting point is 01:07:11 WAP would be on the soundtrack right now, dog. We'd be talking about that WAP. I don't think it would be, Donald. I think it would be. I think when Chuck asked Carla to marry him, he'd be like, you know it's because of that wop. It's hard to run around with sparklers to wop, but I could try.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I bet you there would be a lot. No, in truth, I bet you there would be a lot of Ed Sheeran. Yeah. Because that's one of Zach's favorite artists. There'd be some Charlotte Lawrence. Well, it's also people. Yeah. Because she's the daughter of the creator of the show. There'd be some Olamide Faison because he's my brother and he's making music.
Starting point is 01:07:53 There'd be Toby Sebastian. Right, there'd still be Josh Radin, obviously. I think the music still holds up. As much as those songs were new at the time i still feel like they captured every moment perfectly so i don't know how much the music would change i i still think it would still be the same tone well there'd be no i think i think it'd be the same tone but there are of course now uh this many years later so many new singer songwriters that that i'm sure we would try um it's funny though i will
Starting point is 01:08:25 tell you something that i learned you know when i made garden state i i pretty much you know everyone said i wasn't gonna get that music and then i just kept trying and trying and trying i never gave up never gave up never gave up and then i eventually got all the songs but then about 10 years later when i went to make wish i Was Here, as I was filling out the sound, you'd fall in love with the song and the editor would cut it to the song and you'd be like, oh my God. And then we'd have to check like, okay, where's the song been used? And then over the course of those 10 years, we're talking roughly 2004 to 2014, the convention of using music at the end of your TV show to sort of
Starting point is 01:09:05 summarize the end of the, of what everyone had learned had become so pervasive that you just couldn't find an emotional song that hadn't been used 10,000 times. Right. And we, we found like the websites where you can Google, like, where has this been used?
Starting point is 01:09:21 And it would be like, Oh no, it was on Grey's Anatomy. It was on this, it was on this, it was on this, it was this way. We can't use that fucking song it's been so played out so it became a very popular trend to this day it still is and so it's a lot harder to now it's a lot more competitive to find music that you're not going to go yeah that's a great song but I just
Starting point is 01:09:40 saw it on such and such a tv show they used it fact, a little bit of trivia that dovetails with this, I saw on Scrubs Wiki. It says that the song that ends the show that we all love and is so perfect, it's in an episode of the TV show Ed when Ed proposes to his girlfriend. And of course, Ed was played by Tom Cavanaugh, who plays my brother. So, you know, this is the kind of thing we'd run into non-stop
Starting point is 01:10:06 you know when i was cutting wish i was here as you'd fall in love with something you're like i don't want to do something played out and actually to finish the point um the only song that's in garden state that's not on the soundtrack is a song by alexi murdoch called orange sky and we didn't put it on the soundtrack because it was on the OC. It had been used on the show, the OC. And at the time, we were like, okay, we'll put it in the movie, but I don't want to put it on the soundtrack. Here's some other trivia.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Zach and I recorded somewhere out there the song from American Tail. This is how hard it is now. Like, we had done Yeah, I forgot about this. We were gonna try and do Christmas songs, like, every year and stuff like that. And so, the first year we did Baby It's Cold Outside, which now, nobody's gonna record ever again.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Well, maybe with altered lyrics. Right, but that shit's a rape song. No, but I mean, maybe, the song is so beautiful, I hope that people will maybe alter the lyrics and be like, baby, can I call you an Uber? I believe you should. Baby, you've had
Starting point is 01:11:14 too much. Can I make sure you get home safely? Safely. And so a couple of years later, we were like, we should do another one and we chose another one somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight oh we recorded we laid it down it was amazing we laid it down and everything and i played it for a buddy of mine he
Starting point is 01:11:38 was like oh wow this is just like uh what donald glover and daniel Pudi did on... Oh. On... Community. On Community. Yeah. And we spent so much... Which John and I don't watch. Right, which we've never watched, but we spent so much money on trying to put this song out,
Starting point is 01:11:56 we were like, fuck! No, we got a real producer. We laid it down. I can't believe we never put it out. I mean, now we'd have to pay for the fucking rights to it but it was good yeah it was anyway so yeah someone's thinking of me some of you guys use even if some of you guys use you know this episode is such a great it fits so well feel 97 yeah with the proposal i think bill bill sort of ask you yeah i was sort of implied um you know you weren't you weren't on the call earlier, Chris, but Bill, we had
Starting point is 01:12:28 Bill Lawrence was interrupted and he sort of implied that they sort of wrote to the song. I mean, which was interesting because he, I think they liked the song so much. They sort of made the moment around the song, which is kind of cool. Shay, Zach, do you guys ever do that? Do you guys ever write to music? You mean have music on? Like a song puts you in a feel,
Starting point is 01:12:55 and you're like, yo, let me get this. You go first, Shay, and then I'll go. Yeah, I actually did a little thing a couple of months ago where I wanted to write this short story, but I only wanted to listen to one album while I wrote the story. And I just played this, this album on repeat over and over and over again,
Starting point is 01:13:13 hoping something cool would happen. It was like a Duke Ellington album. But yeah, I always have music playing when I'm writing. It's never anything with words though. It's always got to be something with that. Otherwise I get too distracted. I agree.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I agree with that. When I've tried ever to have words i can't write but um there's times when i want to set a mood or a vibe for something i'm writing i'll choose sometimes classical or in the screenplay i'm working on now i it's funny it kind of just seeped into the movie because i was like i'm gonna put on some chopin just to kind of like create the vibe create the vibe with the scene and then i fell in love with this um piece by chopin so much i was like well this obviously has to be in the score for the scene so then i was like writing into the scene on a dingy record player this song is playing yeah lyrics i agree with shay lyrics would would be distracting um chris you got another question
Starting point is 01:14:04 chris you can we're to hang out for a bit. Why don't you ask? No, no. He's got one more question, and then we're going to fix his life. Go ahead. Well, so I actually have a story about my engagement, which involves Scrubs, which is why I reached out to Joelle a couple months ago. So my wife and I have been married for, it'll be seven years in October.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And so she's a few years older. So I totally relate to Turk in these last three episodes. So when I was planning my engagement, it was going to be our two year anniversary in August. And I had their ring. And I'm like, super not romantic. I'm just so bad at showing those kinds of things. And so like, how do I propose without being cliche, but with like showing, you know, a romantic side of me and so I decided uh that our anniversary was going to be on a Sunday and I was like well I don't want to propose like on the Sunday going out to dinner somewhere because I mean that was like very
Starting point is 01:14:55 cliche in our two anniversary I don't want to do that so I and I don't want to wait to the next day because then she's like well shit this is over because two years and we're not going anywhere and so I decided to do it at midnight. And so I got off work around 9.30, 10. And so when I went to her place, I was like, okay, I have the ring. How do I be spontaneous? And so me being a dummy, like Turk, I hid the ring in her medicine cabinet. And my thought processes was, I'm going to ask her for some Tylenol at some point because I have a headache.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I'm going to make this excuse up. That way she can get me Tylenol at midnight. She'll see and be like, oh, wow, he's the best person ever. I'm going to marry him. And so what we do, because Scrubs was our show back then. This is 2013. And so I timed it about four episodes after the fourth episode. It would be time to get the ring.
Starting point is 01:15:44 And so we're watching Scrubs. and then it's like 1130. So we're almost, you know, finishing up an episode and she goes to the bathroom. She gets up to go to the bathroom. And I'm like, yo, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:15:54 And this is her place, by the way. I'm like, yo, what are you doing? She's like, I have to go to the bathroom. I have a hangnail.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I'm going to get the clippers. And I was like, no, you can't get up there in scrubs. That's a rule. How dare you? You have to finish the show. And she was like, what? And I was like no you can't get up there in scrubs that's a rule how dare you you have to finish the show and she's like what and I was like you can't go to the bathroom you have to finish the show you have to sit down and so she like gives me this pissy look and she goes and sits down and so in
Starting point is 01:16:17 my head this is what I'm like Kirk I'm like shit how do I she's not going to see the ring because you're gonna be focused on where the nail clippers are, which is different than where the medicine's at. And so I get up and go to the bathroom during the episode. And I move the ring to where her nail clippers are. Being like, thinking that I'm the genius. Like, I got this. This is easy. And so not knowing that, I just told her she couldn't go to the bathroom when I did the same thing.
Starting point is 01:16:44 So I come back, sit down, like, all right, I'm good. Ten more minutes of episode. And then an episode ends. And I'm like, all right, showtime. We're going to do this. And I say, hey, you can go get the nail clippers now. And she's like, no, fuck you. I bit off my nail.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I don't need to go to the bathroom anymore. So I'm like, oh, shit now my plan's screwed up again. And so I go, how do I troubleshoot this? So the genius that I am says... You turned this into something that did not have to be disconflicated. It would have been funny if she was like, I don't need nail clippers anymore,
Starting point is 01:17:18 but now I got a headache. And so I said, I also have a hangnail. Can you get me the nail clippers? And she like looked at me for like 10 seconds. Like, are you serious? Like, you need me to get that for you? And I was like, can you please get them?
Starting point is 01:17:37 And then she gets up, goes to the bathroom, sees the nail clippers. She freaks out and like slams the mirror real quick. She doesn't realize what's happening. And then she opens it. opens it and i'm like hey can you come out of the bathroom because i don't want to propose in the bathroom that's a weird spot to propose can you bring him out of the bathroom and then i propose dude you're so lucky you're so lucky that the handmaid's tale wasn't out yet i know I'm just so lucky. Like, that's how I always thought it would be. The trick is, like, in the wine glass, in the coffee mug, down the...
Starting point is 01:18:11 I'm like, I get this. It's stressful. It is a very stressful moment. And I could have just put it in my pocket. I love that you were like, no one gets up during Scrubs. What the hell are you doing? This is a Scrubs episode playing. It's the rule.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Well, she said yes, I take it. So congratulations. It'll be seven years in October. It'd been really funny if she ended up saying no. And that's the end. That's the end of the story. She actually said no. After that,
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Starting point is 01:22:00 along with the musicians. Listen to El Flow as part of the My Cultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Chris. First of all, Chris, welcome to the segment of the program where we fix your life.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I'm so excited. All right. We're ready to fix your life. Now, the problem you have, Chris, could be huge or it could be tiny. It could be as tiny as, do you guys know how to fix a broken light switch? Or it could be as big as help me tell my wife. Dude, fixing a broken light switch is very difficult. I think between all of us, Dan will probably know how to do it.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Well, I'm saying it could be minimal or it could be enormous. We can solve it and we're going to fix it. And we have Shay here who's way smarter than all of us and he'll help. There's a lot of brain power here. I feel that. Yeah. Well, this is what's called a free fix it session. Yeah. I wrote down a question. I'm ready. So my question is when I'm making a burger, whether it's veggie or non-veggie, where do you put the sauce and all like the lettuce, tomato,
Starting point is 01:23:25 onions, pickles, you put it on top of the burger or do you put it on the bottom of the burger? Well, I'm going to tell you, Chris, Donald is quite a grill man. So he's going to go hit him.
Starting point is 01:23:35 I do. I wait, hold up. I do like to grill, but I'm going to tell you something. I'm not the person to ask for this. I think, I think,
Starting point is 01:23:43 uh, me personally, I fuck up burgers all the time so i can't help you at this point in time uh daniel you seem to know more about burgers than i do you honor me uh why can't we i want daniel to answer but why can you not answer where to put shit on a cheeseburger? Because I fuck it up every time. So here's my problem. There's only like two places to put it.
Starting point is 01:24:10 There are a bunch of places. There are a bunch of places to put it. So he's asking where you put the sauce. So you could put the sauce on the bun. You could put the sauce on the burger. Or you could put all of the fixings on top of the burger and then put the sauce on top of the fixings. You know what I mean? I fuck this up every time because what happens is the way I do it, I forget.
Starting point is 01:24:32 There's also, you could put the sauce on the cheese or under the cheese like McDonald's does. All right, all right, all right. Okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You're asking the wrong person when it comes to burgers. Now I see why I'm glad you didn't answer.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Daniel, will you have a nice, beautiful, succinct answer, please? You're very sweet to say so. I think timing is of the essence when it comes to things like burgers. I think the longer you let anything sit, the soggier things will inevitably get. With all that said, take the top bun, put my ketchup, my mustard, or whatever else you like, two pickles, and slap that on top of my burger. You don't put lettuce and tomatoes and stuff on your burger? Lettuce and tomato come in between.
Starting point is 01:25:10 So I would say, in that case, the bun with the sauce on it, ketchup, mustard, and then pickles, and then I'll put the tomatoes and lettuce on the actual patty, and then But I think it's controversial to put zero sauce on the actual patty and then... But I think it's controversial to put zero
Starting point is 01:25:26 sauce on the bottom bun. I like to give the bottom bun a little love as well. Anybody else? I do not. I'm with Dan on this one. This is like, you know, the sauce is supposed to be an accent and that's too close to my tongue if it's on the bottom.
Starting point is 01:25:43 I need to protect it a little bit. Okay. Wait, hold up. It's all going in my mouth. I don't understand. I think that would be a good t-shirt. Joelle, it's all going in my mouth. I love it. Alright, Chris. I think it's safe to say
Starting point is 01:26:03 we have successfully fixed your life. You're welcome, Chris. Chris, you're welcome. You're welcome. Thank you. I have a recommendation, actually, if that's okay for Donald. Yes, go ahead. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I don't know how much, Donald, do you listen to podcasts at all besides your own? Okay. I don't, no. But if you have a recommendation, please. I do. It's kind of a segue from Shay. say does the podcast with Jason conception? I'd be alright the ringer and Jason conception of the podcast called binge mode Donald, which they do arcing huge Pop culture stories like Lady Game of Thrones
Starting point is 01:26:42 Harry Potter, but they have a Harry Potter or excuse me a Star Wars season that you I know would love they do game of thrones harry potter but they have a harry potter excuse me a star wars season that you i know would love they do like deep dives into episodes and interviews and stuff so that's my recommendation and i'm sure whenever chris whenever i chris whenever i whenever i try and recommend things to donald because i know his passions he he ignores them and i hope that he will take you up on it but i'm the guy who's like scrolling through my phone because i'm bored and i stumble across like a death star fire pit and i'm like oh my god donald needs to get this death star fire pit doesn't reply doesn't buy it doesn't even say it's say There's nothing practical about a Death Star fire pit in my
Starting point is 01:27:25 in my fucking backyard dude. My kids could fall into the Death Star. There's so many things that could go wrong with a Death Star fire pit. I'm just saying that I'm sad that you don't try out my recommendations. Maybe I'll try out Chris's. Why is it getting so dark where you are, bud?
Starting point is 01:27:43 I gotta hit the light switch. I gotta hit the light switch. I'm going to hit the light switch. All right, Chris, thank you so much for coming on, brother. Chris, you've been a great guest, man. Chris, you were a great guest, and you make me want to wear – I don't really know the music of Selena, but I feel like I would look cool wearing a Selena T-shirt. Dodge that heat, yo.
Starting point is 01:27:59 If you get the chance, dodge that heat. Do what you can. I'm trying, yo. I'm trying. Yeah, man. Take care, Chris. Be well. thank you so much i want to talk about something andy and sean are uh are in the group of doctors that cox invites
Starting point is 01:28:14 over for drinks and wings and sports on tv yes so for those of you who i'm about to say for those you don't know you couldn't know when they cut to to Zeltser, when Cox is trying to invite his friends over and Zeltser asks if there'll be prostitutes and someone says no and he goes, oh, good. The two men who are next to him are our gaffer and our key grip. The gaffer is in charge of all the lighting
Starting point is 01:28:41 and the key grip is in charge of everything, all the gear and the key grip is in charge of everything all the gear and every inch and and uh and so many things so the two sort of very high crew people on on the set uh were were were a side by side zeltzer uh the people that that johnny c was asking to to come over also uh johnny castle's great in this episode we never really give shout outs to Johnny Castle who plays Doug on the show I've had a couple fans asking for Johnny to have Johnny Castle on we should do that
Starting point is 01:29:10 he does such a great job on the show and the crazy thing about the character the character's so fucking annoying dude I'm not gonna lie like Cox he annoys the shit out of me but his arc at the end is so amazing and works so well like all of these
Starting point is 01:29:28 fuck-ups and all like johnny castle's gonna start to lose patient after patient after patient each one of his patients are gonna die they move him to the morgue but his arc at the end of it all is so worth it like i think johnny castle eventually killed so many people they were like why don't you work in the morgue yeah yeah but his character arc is so great and he becomes he becomes so confident at his job uh when it turns into what it's going to turn into i don't want to spoil it for anybody but he becomes so confident that, you know, this annoying, nervous guy that pops up in a few episodes a season, when he gets to shine, he shines. And so I'm really excited for that.
Starting point is 01:30:16 I'm waiting for that. I know it's going to take a couple of seasons, but I'm waiting for it and I can't wait. What do you think about Nurse Roberts' whole gossip run montage? That was funny. That shit was hilarious, dude. Her jumping over the freaking dude on the, she's OJ all of a sudden. She turns into OJ.
Starting point is 01:30:31 She's like OJ in a Hertz commercial. Yeah. How did that happen? And then what surprised me, and I want to ask you guys about this, did it throw you off that J.D. was still allowed to have fantasies even though he wasn't telling the story? I don't think he does. He does.
Starting point is 01:30:52 He's at dinner with Turk. They're eating at the restaurant, wherever it is. He has a fantasy. I think it's his fantasy of Cox hitting dude over the back with the chair and all of that stuff. At therapy, that's that's a good question and shay might know better than we do but i always assume that when the person took over the voiceover they took over the fantasies too but i don't recall do you remember that shay if that's true or not uh it's not exclusive to to uh being the narrator of the show
Starting point is 01:31:21 no right because other people do have fantasies. I was just wondering if it threw anybody off. Because when I was watching it, I was like, oh, so... Oh, so you're saying that was J.D.'s fantasy, not Cox's fantasy. Yeah, because J.D.'s talking about it. Absolutely. But I will say this. We all have fantasies on the show at some point,
Starting point is 01:31:41 and you're doing the monologue still. You're still doing the narration. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. And there's a little funny thing in that fantasy with johnny c so and this is the first episode with johnny the tackling alzheimer's patient who was our sort of senior uh stunt coordinator ernie and and ernie is in the segment where Johnny also, not only does he play the tackling Alzheimer's patient, but he's in the segment where Johnny is hitting people with the chair. He's the next guy over, which made me think there's probably another,
Starting point is 01:32:15 he probably nailed him too. And they cut it out because why would Ernie be sitting there? I don't know. You know what I'm talking about? He nails the first guy. Yeah, no, he's sitting right next to the- He's obviously a stuntman. And then Ernie kind of begins to wince,
Starting point is 01:32:27 and I'm like, they must have cut out him nailing Ernie as well. Here's another thing that I noticed. What? And I want to give a shout-out to all of our extras that were on the show. We call them background performers now, Donald. My point is, shout-out to all of the background performers because not only are some of them doctors in the hospital,
Starting point is 01:32:47 but some of them are patrons at restaurants when you're watching this episode, I noticed. I noticed that a lot of them are sitting behind us when we're eating dinner. But what's your shout out to them? They were able to not only be people at hospital you guys they were able to be people at restaurants no my shout out my shout out to them is that we had a bunch of people that really worked hard to be seen on our show uh and and and uh
Starting point is 01:33:18 and create characters and sometimes they were asked to do things that didn't fit you know what i mean like continuity when it comes to our background it gets better as time goes but in the beginning everybody was trying to get in where they fit in and this is one of those episodes where i recognize oh wow what is she doing in the background here when she was just in the background at the hospital with a lab coat on the funny thing is is that our go-to regular background performers, I think we're very aware of where to find the camera because Snoop Dogg's in the back of
Starting point is 01:33:51 a lot of shots of this episode. I saw Colonel Doctor. I saw Beard Fosse. I think a lot of the greatest hits just knew where to go. They were like, I see where the camera is and my character will be crossing to that whiteboard. Are you guys ready for Bill's final thoughts?
Starting point is 01:34:10 Oh, God. OK, Bill. All right. Another interrupting Bill segment. No warning whatsoever. Don't know if there's music. I'm OK if there is. Dan or Joelle to interrupt you guys when it becomes clear that Shea Serrano, who is a big Scrubs fan and an amazing writer,
Starting point is 01:34:28 knows more about the show than you two. Because I am interested because so many Scrubs viewers actually do rewatches and stuff. And be honest, Shea, whether or not you've actually watched the whole series more than once. I'm betting there's no way you watched it more than two or three times, but some people said you might have even watched it five, six, seven, eight. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn that shit off, Daniel. Turn that shit off. No, no, no. He said he was going to stop doing it. No.
Starting point is 01:35:07 He's disrespectful to the host. That was clever, Bill. You know, I was on a call with Bill, and we were talking about something else, and he's like, it was very sweet. He was like, I really got to come up with a new thing. I know the audience loves 5678, but I want to shake it up. I'm going to come up with a new bit for season two.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Cut to. Right. Doesn't get. Okay. So I got a question for you. Dude, do you not know any Kung Fu moves? I don't know who you are. Are you talking to me?
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'm talking to Zach. Zach. You're talking about me because when I go, everybody goes, Kung Fu fighting. Then you start humping the air. Then you hump the air. Like you're fucking the air. That's a Kung Fu move. It's in the Legend of the Drunken Master.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Jackie Chan does it. So I'm clear. Shay, so I'm clear. Jackie Chan fucks the air. Yeah, you don't know fuck the air? No, I don't know fuck the air. I don't know that form. That was a deleted scene.
Starting point is 01:36:11 I don't know that form. That was a deleted scene from Karate Kid. Daniel-san, fuck the air. Fuck the air. It was right after paint the fence. That's a really sweet moment in the in the show when the therapist is telling dr cox like if you have somebody in your life who can get you to do something that that's a special person and then they cut to we see jd i really like when when they tee it up
Starting point is 01:36:36 like that when we gets it whenever like somebody is saying a nice thing about somebody else but they're not hearing them say it i just it's, really great. Yeah. Well, they cut to Zack, and Zack fucks the air, and then the janitor drops in from the ceiling. You don't fuck the air when you dance? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. You're doing a theme dance, first of all. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:01 My character wasn't so focused on kung fu as he was about doing his best dance moves. He's alone in an elevator. You know that expression, dance like no one's watching? He was alone in an elevator, and he knew no one was watching, and it was time to fucking get his groove on.
Starting point is 01:37:17 That's his default move. Yeah, it's my default. Probably my default move, too. I just do a little... So let me get this straight. Go ahead. When Kung Fu fighting comes on yeah and it gets to the let me get back to the right key i'm supposed to fuck the air i would recommend it yeah it feels nice so then why all the hand
Starting point is 01:37:41 gestures like you were about to do kung fu fighting and then fuck the air? Dude, I'm just being my wacky self. Okay. Someone said, someone I'm sure Ken Winningham, the director of this episode said, Zach, come up with some funny ass weird dance move. Do you want a funny story though?
Starting point is 01:37:57 Speaking about fucking the air. I remember being a little kid and I didn't even know what a pivot. I didn't even know. I didn't. This is embarrassing, but this is how much I love you our listeners and I'm going to tell you another embarrassing story about me I didn't even know I was too young to even know about
Starting point is 01:38:16 masturbation or really what sex was I think I just knew that the man and the woman got into bed together and lied on top of each other and I was already of an age where that was titillating to me but i didn't really know much more than that and i remember building a pillow uh woman in my bed and um and i was i don't know how i must have been like i don't know how old i'm gonna guess six or seven oh my god i don't think my kids have any idea what fucking is right now no but i'm
Starting point is 01:38:45 saying i didn't know about it i didn't know about i didn't know about the the act i just knew that i imagine that they lie on top of each other and make out and the baby gets made i'm saying it was that innocent but i remember coming into my and i literally laid out the pillows like like it was a woman in bed and then i came into my room and yawned like oh hard day at work honey and i and i took off my clothes and i got into bed and i laid on top of the pillow woman did she nine months later did she have a baby yes pillow baby that's how i had a pillow baby but it's funny i'm just thinking that um there was some i think i had a pillow girlfriend named Katya in this show. There was some joke like,
Starting point is 01:39:28 as I lay on top of my pillow girlfriend, Katya. Yeah, that's a thing. When you walked in the room and you were spending time with your pillow wife, did you say, we need some romantic music right now and then kung fu fighting is what you did? It was. I just remember that in my however year old brain i thought the first step to making love to your wife is to yawn and say i've had such a
Starting point is 01:39:55 hard day that never works that never works oh you've tried it you've tried it everybody tries that shit oh baby you wouldn't be I had such a hard day today. I have so much stress. The ideal thing to happen is, you know, for things to happen after that. Usually you say that shit and they're like, oh, you know, so did I. Fucking kids were a pain in the ass today. Anyway. Let's talk about the ending, though, because I thought the ending definitely gave me goosebumps
Starting point is 01:40:26 and I thought it was very romantic and sweet that you run to the park. You're still doing your weird run that nobody runs like that, but okay, I'll accept it. You're a hater of all haters. No, why does Turk run like a cartoon
Starting point is 01:40:42 character? Every action star has a specific run. That's true. Thank you, Shay. You want to see crazy runs, look at how Harrison Ford runs. Look at how The Rock runs. Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise runs.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Every action star has a run. If I were to run like everybody else, you know what? It would be not considered unique. Just like every fucking leading man has a fucking walk. Okay. So this is your signature walk. No, this is my signature run. And I'll beat your ass in a race any day, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:41:19 With that run. So we can go. I think currently I might be able to beat you in a race. Currently. We could go whenever you're ready. Whenever you're ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. Currently, I might be able to beat you in a race. Currently. We could go whenever you're ready. Whenever you're ready. I'm ready. I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Anyway, I thought it was very sweet. The song is beautiful. And then they reveal JD running around with the sparklers. And I just thought it was really, it was romantic. It was very romantic. I loved the song. Can I ask two questions? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:40 One of which is directly related to the episode, but one of them is tangentially related. When Turk is at the bus stop eating the chili dog, he wasn't expecting for that waitress to show up, right? Because she shows up and he's like, oh, what are you doing here? Good to meet you. He just hangs out at a bus stop eating chili dogs.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Why is Turk at a bus stop eating a chili dog? I don't know. Well, you have Malik, obviously. I've obviously have Malik, obviously. I obviously have Malik, but we never have established in the history of Scrubs or again that Turk rides the bus. No. That's one of those things that's just convenient to make it so.
Starting point is 01:42:21 He needs to run into her somewhere. I can just picture the writer's room. Where is Turk going to run into the diner waitress yeah yeah the bus stop okay and why does he have a chili why does he have a chili dog where's the chili dog from i have no idea right yeah um there's a james coney island somewhere nearby yeah the the other question that i have is you you mentioned the running turk is running through the park to get to carla and i wondered um on this most recent we watched like that happens and then there's an episode later on that you guys will eventually get to where turk uh but he's like having not a crisis of faith but there's very it's like a religious episode
Starting point is 01:43:01 and he ends up running through the park to get to a person who needs help and he feels like it was intervened we did that episode already happened already that was yeah yeah is this like of all people should yeah yeah is this is like a is this a a metaphor for a thing or is this just it was just a coincidence that this happened like he's running donald's run is so weird that everyone was like let's see let's keep setting it up that's a that's a that's a really good question like what is turks what is why is turk always running someplace well no i think it's not that deep i think it's dramatic at the end of a show to see someone i mean how many fucking romantic comedies end with someone running to get to the person i mean it's dramatic well yeah when harry met sally has a has a great one where it's new year's eve and he runs up to her
Starting point is 01:43:48 to tell her that he's i you know i i imagine that's where they're trying to take it where they're trying to get it from there's so many movies where at the end of the movie when the guy realizes uh that he needs to or the the woman realizes that they need to be together somebody has to run to the other one's arms you know what i mean that's all i was curious about that i wondered that too hey so we did it guys we did it we did it we did it um shay remind everybody for those of you who missed the previous episode with Shay, shame on you. He self-published an amazing book of essays on Scrubs. And not only is he an incredible writer, but he's very knowledgeable about Scrubs.
Starting point is 01:44:37 And they're beautifully illustrated. And we really highly recommend you get them. Because if you're a Scrubs fan, and I imagine you are if you're listening to this, you're really going to love this. Shay, remind everyone where to get it. You can get it at a website, sacredheartgang.com. And it'll take you right to it. Sacredheartgang.com. He's also written lots of other books, and he's a really cool guy.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Tell everyone how to follow you on Twitter. Is it at Shay Serrano? There it is. Boom. Justano there it is boom just just spell it for people that can't spell s-h-e-a-s-e-r-r-a-n-o follow shay he's a great if you're into twitter which is the hellscape of of entire earth uh but if you're into it and addicted to it uh shay's uh is a great follow and um and and thank you guys this was this was a really good show and uh i i miss you i miss you all i miss you too man you know i thought that we could end today's show with uh my brother olamide yeah music let's do it let's
Starting point is 01:45:36 do it talk tell us about olamide donald so olamide was in a band back in the day called imagine and they had a couple of hits on the radio and they they did well, and they broke up at a really young age, and now he's making his own music, and you can find him on Spotify, you can find him on iTunes, wherever you can find music. Tell everyone how to spell his name, because it's a little tricky. It is a little tricky, actually. It's O-L-A-M-I-D-E, Olamide Faison, my last name. And we're going to start, we're going to end the show with one of his songs. It's called Hey There, Love.
Starting point is 01:46:15 And I want to thank Joelle. I want to thank Shea for being on the show today. I want to thank Daniel for being the awesome dude that he is. For all of those guys, Zach Braff and myself, this is Olamide with Hey There Love. Look back where it began Who thought we'd end up here A so-called one-night stand
Starting point is 01:46:40 Well, think again, baby, think again Who thought I wasn't quite your type And wouldn't last beyond that night Well I guess love had a different plan Cause here we are, look at where we stand Hey there, love. How did we end up at the altar after all the things that we've been through? Hey there, love.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Look how we turned out. Who said happily ever after would never be found? Hey there, love. found Hey Hey Hey mistakes but somehow things turn out fine. To think we had our doubts, only to find we can live without.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Each other, love has special ways to shine its light through darkened skies. When it's real, everything just feels right look at you and i we gave us a try try try hey there love how did we end up at the altar after all the things that we've been through hey there love Look how we turned out Who said happily ever after We'll never be found Hey there love Hey there love Hate that love. We'll see you next time. inspiration, and so much more. I am so excited about this podcast, The Bright Side. You guys
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