Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 506: My Missed Perception
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Hi, guys.
By the way, this is a meaningful moment.
You ready?
Drum roll, Daniel.
100.
This is my last episode of the podcast in Los Angeles.
Oh, my goodness.
My goodness.
I have done, other than my trip to England,
as you listeners may recall, I have done
since quarantine began, every
single episode in this very room.
Wow. It's going to be different.
And now I'm East Coast bound. I promise
you I will still bring the magic.
I'm excited for you.
Donald, how do you feel about this?
I sure am going to miss you.
I know.
I'm going to miss you, too.
Donald and I went out and saw Black Widow at Man's Chinese Theater.
We were in the theater.
Yeah.
We had not.
Neither one of us, obviously, had been in a theater.
We wore our masks because we ain't trying to get that Delta.
Ain't nobody trying to get that Delta.
That Delta, for real, for real. Yeah, that Delta doesn't.
So then we saw the movie, which of course was amazing.
And then we were going to go.
It was also the opening night of the Hotel Cafe,
which was where all our friends play music in a great music venue
if you ever visit Los Angeles.
Nice.
And so we decided that we would walk from Man's Chinese to Coango,
which is a wrong choice.
Oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy.
In this heat, for sure.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Just the sketch factor, the sketch factor.
Not in this heat.
Listen, I'm from New York City, born and raised.
Hell's Kitchen.
Hell's Kitchen, Times Square.
I'm used to tourists.
I'm used to the element that it brings to that area.
You know, I'm used to it. I'm brings to that area that brit you know i'm used to it
i'm gonna say something right now go ahead i went into full bodyguard mode
i don't know i would like into john was like if casey if casey was a uh was a politician and
donald was like her secret service agent dude and my wife wore chanel that night she was like her secret service agent. Dude, and my wife wore Chanel that night.
She had on the stuff.
She looked good.
She was looking good.
You know what she looked like?
But anyway, no, it was a bit of a sketchy walk.
It's funny.
I've lived here 20 years.
I've never walked down Hollywood Boulevard.
I've gone to...
Listen.
I've walked down Hollywood Boulevard several times.
No, I've gone to the theaters that are on Hollywood Boulevard.
I've done the Jimmy Kimmel show that's on Hollywood Boulevard.
I have never walked down Hollywood Boulevard on a Saturday night at prime summertime.
It's intense.
It's live.
Yes, it is.
It was live.
That's the way to put it.
It was live. That's the way to put it. It was advanced. It sincerely reminded me of New York back in the day when I was a kid in the summertime,
you know, Friday, Saturday night, Times Square.
I was like, wow, this shit is, not only is it popping right now, but there's an element
of danger in the air.
And I liked the smell of it.
You know what I mean?
It was like, it was like it was
just like like there was a guy on so much there was a guy on whatever drug he was on like splay
down on the sidewalk so you have to go around him right yeah so because he's on his ride and uh
and as we're going around he hears us say something he's like you don't know what the
fuck you're talking about he goes shut the fuck up and we like, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about! He goes, shut the fuck up!
And we were like, you don't know
what you're talking about!
And I was like, Donald, do not kill him.
No, I wasn't gonna. That's
the dude that you stay away from.
It was like Zombieland.
You throw a kick at that dude, he bites you.
Bites your foot in the ass.
It was a little like Zombieland.
Yeah, very much.
Anyway, that was a very interesting stroll we had that night.
Yes.
But Donald, more importantly, you loved the movie as a Marvel fan.
I did love the movie as a Marvel fan.
I mean, it's out.
Everybody can see it.
Joelle, did you like it?
I loved it.
It's so funny.
Like, I did not expect it to be funny at all, and it super is.
I was worried about going back in time.
You know, sometimes that can get a little sketchy,
but I thought they pulled it off beautifully
and added elements to, like, feature screenings of different movies.
It's a good ride.
I just, you know, it's funny.
I don't watch these movies, as you know.
I just cannot believe how incredible the visual effects.
Donald, do you remember, when they got to the visual effects artist,
which was in The Crawl, I just started,
I got the audience going with a round of applause.
I did, right?
It started with, I spread it all through Man's Chinese Theater
because I have to say, again,
as someone who hasn't seen all of these movies,
I thought the visual effects were unbelievable
there is not a single thing that looked fake or green screen and and and there's just giant
sequences of them falling from the sky and doing insane shit that obviously is on green screen and
it looked flawless it was so good that zach got a very special episode of Boy Meets World slow clap going in the movie theater.
That's how good it was.
I'm talking about when the visual effects artist came up.
Yeah.
When the visual effects artist came up, you got a nice special episode tonight on a very special episode of Boy Meets World.
You got one of the slow claps at the end of the episode.
You got one of those going claps at the end of the episode you got one of those going
where people were at the end applauding and cheering
for the special effects
they deserved it
it was really really good
Kevin Feige was at our screening
and he introduced the movie
that was really cool
it took everything in my power not to be like
I'm Donald Faison
I'm a huge fan
Donald was going to bum rush him and ask for a role It took everything in my power not to be like, I'm Donald Faison. I'm a huge fan.
Yeah, Donald was going to bum rush him and ask for a role.
It took everything in my power not to. I was joking.
And he's like, so sit back and enjoy Black Widow.
Now, by the way, if there's any 47-year-old African-American actors in the audience, please see me at the back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, if he would have said that.
Let's get into it, guys.
We got a very, very, very wacky, very wacky, funny episode.
Donald, count us in.
Five, six, seven, eight.
We've got stories about a show we made.
About a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate.
I said he's got stories that we all should know. I feel like I'm on drugs in this episode.
I am so hyped up.
I feel like this whole show is on drugs now.
I was laughing.
I was with Bill this weekend.
And we were just, I was telling him how funny it is to watch the show and how the tone of season five is so wacky.
And I was telling him, we were talking about the ostriches.
And we were just cracking up at how he's like, he'll come on and talk about it.
But he's like, I don't know.
I got a little bored.
I got a little bored.
Got a little wacky.
I told you, man. That's what I felt like at the beginning of the season.
I feel like everybody, I don't feel like
everybody was bored, but I feel like it's
not as fresh and new anymore.
And now, you know, after three years in the
NBA, you're a veteran. You're considered
a vet. And we were... This is now
five years on NBC
primetime comedy Thursday
nights following... We were following...
I'm not sure if it's Friends now or
if we're following Joey but we're like
we're like yeah remember that
we're like the freaking
we're a part of the
Thursday night lineup
we're officially and we're pushing
up on a hundred episodes also
the next one
is the next one or
this one
it's the next one my way home the hundredth trivia for you trivia lovers is the next one or this one? It's the next one. My Way Home.
The hundredth trivia for you trivia lovers
is the Wizard of Oz episode,
which I directed,
which is, I think, one of the best episodes,
not just because I directed it.
And that's next,
which I believe is the hundredth.
Yes.
And so that being said,
it's like,
that's a lot of episodes, man.
That's a lot of,
that's a lot.
You know what I mean? We all strive to do this as actors to get on a television show if you're in if you're a television
actor you want to get on a show that does a hundred episodes that means you worked a lot
that means you made a lot of money that means you did a lot of really good things like you feel
really proud of the things you something was Something was working. Right. So now we've reached that hump. We're pulling up on that hump.
The motivation has to come from somewhere else
because we're not as hungry as we used to be
for sure at this point.
But we look like we're having fun.
For sure, yes.
All I'm saying is that I'm so...
If you watch me in this episode,
I don't know what's going on in my...
I'm on level 10 every single scene.
Now, I know part of the plot is that I'm so happy because I feel like I'm Cox's peer and I'm trying to out-Cox Cox and be Mr. Confident.
But I'm just – I think I'm particularly fucking hyped up and wacky in this episode.
That's what's up.
I totally agree with you.
I think the whole show is.
Okay, so let's start from the beginning.
You're on a mini scooter, right?
Yes, yes.
Sasha's in the shop.
What's Sasha in the shop for?
What is Sasha in the shop for?
I forgot what happened to Sasha, but she's down for the count.
Now, this was a time, if if you guys recall whatever year this was 2006
I believe. 2006?
It's when all these little electric
things came out. Little scooters
and little go-karts and little everything.
And we had them all.
We had them everywhere at the hospital.
And we would like ride them around.
It was so fun. We would
ride them around as was so fun we would like we would ride them around the as we
told you our our our dressing rooms in the production office were all on the third floor
of the hospital so we'd fly around the fucking whole third floor of the hospital on them and uh
and i'm sure that's where bill got the idea to put this tiny little thing in the show
we were literally like hamsters in a cage, man. And that was our track.
That's a good analogy. That was our
spinning wheel.
We had nothing to fucking do. There was so much
downtime. Donald played a lot of
Grand Theft Auto. A lot of GTA.
Miami. That was in Miami.
The Miami one was out.
Finish that.
Donald could get
lost in a video game like so many can
i probably should have i did play some hitman but then i was just like i was just like i was like
like he said a hamster on a fucking wheel so we would just find wacky shit to do like right like
have scooter races around in the hospital yeah so that tiny motorcycle got worked in i thought
that was funny i ride it through the bushes with a classic.
And then I'm carrying it through the hospital.
That's how small it is.
Right, but this is what I don't understand.
Because he has a minibike, the ladies love him?
He's feeling himself because he thinks that that ride.
But that wasn't a fantasy.
No, but he thinks that that ride is a lot hotter than it is.
He thinks it's a turn on.
He's like sitting on the counter.
The ladies are all gathered around him, the nurses.
And he's like, yeah, you know, it's, you know, I don't know what I say,
but something bragging about the hog.
Yeah, I know.
But I'm just saying, like, weren't we just at a point where J.D. was lonely?
I think he is still lonely. He's just. He could have had any one of those just at a point where JD was lonely? I think he is still lonely.
He's just...
He could have had any one of those nurses at that point.
Well, I don't know if he could have them.
They're just listening to his tales of wiping out on his mini scooter.
By the way, I like this shot.
Victor Nelly directed this of going through the ceiling and the floor and showing the rat inside.
Right on.
That was cool.
Victor Nelly did that, huh?
Yeah, this is Victor Nelly and Kevin Beagle wrote it.
Who wrote it?
Kevin Beagle.
Kevin Beagle.
Now let's talk about the Todd.
You can see his shaft bouncing.
What?
When the Todd finds the janitor
in the stolen therapeutic bath on the roof. Yes, yes. The Todd comes in to find the janitor in the stolen therapeutic bath on the roof.
Okay.
Todd comes in to find the janitor has put a no banana hammock sign on the bath.
Right.
And as Todd comes in, you can see his shaft as he walks sort of bounce against his banana hammock.
And then the sun hits it and it sort of glimmers.
What?
I went back and watched again.
It bounces. Like an elephant watched again. It bounces.
Like an elephant's trunk.
It bounces.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm just telling you.
I just couldn't believe that this was on NBC because it's very, very revealing.
Speaking of very revealing moments, I'm playing a lot of tennis now.
What does that have to do with anything?
Go ahead.
I've gotten back into it.
No banana hammocks on a tennis court though.
Yeah.
Don't rock a banana hammock on the tennis court.
You got to get into pickleball.
I played like twice and I love it.
What is pickleball,
dude?
I don't understand it.
Um,
it's like small tennis basically,
but you play with a wiffle ball and you play with paddles instead of a
racket.
And you'd be so amazing at it because it's kind of like ping pong meets tennis you can put so much spin on the ball and and you
play doubles because that's well you don't have to but most people play doubles and it's kind of
like you're standing on the ping pong table you know obviously but a bigger scale and it's really
fast it's all about volleying and it's fun you'd love it i play with bill and he's fun. You'd love it. I play with Bill, and he's obviously really, really good.
You guys spend a lot of time together, huh?
Well, I love him, and I'm leaving.
And I love you, and that's why I spend time with you,
because I'm trying to get in all my savor.
How long are you going to be gone for?
A long time.
I'm going to Atlanta briefly to do a part in a movie with berlanti berlanti's
producing and uh the actor is cole sprouse who's a a popular um a nice seeming actor i've never
met him before i'm going to meet him on wednesday and then i'm going you guys have phil lewis in
common yes we'll talk about hooch phil lewis um Phil Lewis. And then I'm going to New York to prep my film and then eventually shoot my film.
So I'm going to be there until probably December.
So the rest of the year.
Yeah, pretty much.
So I just want you to savor.
I need you to savor.
I'm trying to savor, but you're spending all your time with Bill Lawrence.
Well, don't be jealous.
I went to the movies with you.
We had our sketchy walk down Hollywood Boulevard together.
We sat in the dark, okay?
We sat in the dark, and then we walked down Hollywood Boulevard.
You didn't offer me one Sour Patch Kid.
I thought you were on a diet.
You got six-pack abs.
Right.
I didn't want one.
I just wanted to be offered one.
Oh, next time.
Okay, so Todd's balls are bouncing
It's not his balls
You can see that the shaft is just gently lifting
As he's walking
I noticed that you'll all want to go back and watch that
And he says to the janitor
He's like can I get in and he says if you get in here
I'm going to hang you
By that banana hammock
Yeah atomic wedgie
Right off the side of this roof
Yes and then the janitor uses a mirror
to blind me so that i crash the scooter right and um yes i'm bragging to the nurses and i say i'm a
lifetime member of the danger club and um they're impressed and then i throw away my scooter and
then um then we do this sequence of uh where we talk about pain tolerance and beard fasse is
pulling a hook out of a snm guy's face yes what does he do at this hospital i don't know i i
thought we settled on him being uh either a pharmacist or a um there was talk that he's
an anesthesiologist maybe but why would an anesthesiologist be pulling a hook
i i think it's safe to say i think if you ask bill we don't need to ask bill because i can tell you
bill would say there was i have no idea what what he does but the point is is that he's just a
generic doctor at the hospital um we know that he does like to spend his downtime in the pharmacy
because he is often in the pharmacy pharmacy yes and um and uh but
no in this episode he is removing a hook from a i guess a uh what do you call that joelle what do
you call that someone who is in leathers and likes needles in their face uh they're a member of the
bdsm community yes he's a member of the bdsm community. Yes, he's a member of the BDSM. What does BDSM stand for? Bondage and Submission.
Bondage and Submission.
BDSM.
And he's into BDSM, but he's gone too far, obviously,
because he's in the hospital with a hook in his face.
And as Beard Fosseh is trying to remove it, he's screaming in agony.
No, actually, he's screaming in pleasure.
Oh, yeah, what does he say?
He's like, oh, that's amazing. Oh, yeah, what does he say? He's like, oh, that's amazing.
Oh, I forget what he says at the end of it,
but it's definitely that of...
Yes, we don't really learn if he's completing
what he began at home or not,
but we can assume he might be.
And then we see Todd's atomic wedgie.
No, wait, no, we don't.
We go to the Face chart
And the guy with the face first
The patient matches the face
Chart perfectly
Which I laughed out loud at
And then Todd jumps
And then Todd we see the atomic wedgie
Which is way too big
First of all it's way too big
How big
First of all not it's way too big. No, why is his underwear? First of all, not just his underwear.
How wide does the janitor's reach have to be to be able to have a wedgie that wide hanging?
All I know is that the wedgie-
It's literally his whole body plus some.
So the janitor's reach has to be that of a crane
pretty much. I don't know, but all I know is that
the underwear itself would be like
would be like
enormous. It would be like the
biggest fucking pair of underwear ever.
But I laughed out loud. It was so fucking funny.
And then he hits the glass. That was funny.
Ha!
And for some reason, I remember
this episode, maybe it's because of the Indiana Jones part, reason I remember this episode
maybe it's because of the Indiana Jones pot
but I remember this episode and I remember
Todd laughing while like
screaming but actually laughing
he loved it
anytime he was naked he was giggling
he thought it was so funny
I think he's a bit of an exhibitionist Rob
because by the way that E thing
we did aired and I didn't hear anybody talk about it.
I don't know if anyone saw it.
I didn't.
I didn't see it either.
I had no idea.
Did you guys know that you're in it?
That's crazy.
Well, you have a cameo.
Well, I don't know if you see Daniel in the booth, but you're well, you have a cameo.
That's right.
I'll tell my mother.
She's so excited.
Yes.
Tell your mom.
I think your mom slid into my DMs.
Stop it.
No?
Did she?
Is she on Insta?
She is on Instagram.
She does comment sometimes.
Oh, Lord, what did she say?
Well, I want you to know that it went down in the DMs.
Oh, boy.
No, it was very sweet.
I think it was something like, thank you for being so wonderful to my daughter.
That sounds like her.
Yeah, she was very sweet.
I'm going to have to talk to her about it. I don't know if it was
her or someone pretending to be her.
I'm going to ask you.
I'm going to text her right now. She's on mute. I was scrolling.
So wait, J.D. gets his ass kicked
by a kid?
His neighbor? Elliot's
neighbor? A six
year old kid beats J kid beats JB's ass?
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One time only.
He's not going to do it again, obviously.
The last time that he fucked up the scooter, he beat me up.
Yeah.
Right.
It's his scooter.
Now, this whole rant, I'm trying to be coxed in the ICU, right?
I'm like...
Is this your second one or your third one that you've had like this also?
I don't know.
Because it feels like you have a lot of long monologues.
Yeah, there's a lot of monologues like bossing around my interns and telling them what to do.
I'm trying.
I'm so wannabe Cox.
But once again, I fall flat on my face.
This episode is about him teaching me a big lesson about not to give up on a patient before they're ready to give up themselves.
Now, Gary Busey,
Sarah,
Elliot gets mistaken for Gary Busey
and there's a really random
Gary Busey cameo
and Gary Busey
exits the nurse's station
and you say, bye, Elliot.
Yeah, I didn't, I,
this is another thing. This is where I'm like, I don't get this. Like, this is another thing this is where i'm like i don't get this like
this is like this is part of the show but it's
hell yeah if you're a stoner even a stoner would be like i don't understand this man what did you
understand what the fuck is gary bucey doing hanging out in the hospital dude and it's not
a freaking and it's not a freaking fantasy, man.
In the world of Scrubs.
Gary Busey's a doctor?
No, a guy who looks a lot like Gary Busey is a doctor.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Nobody.
That's not the joke we were making.
Again, I think Bill was like, how funny would it be?
First of all, I wonder if Sarah was offended by being told she looked like Gary Busey.
Looks like Gary Busey, right.
Because no offense to Gary Busey, it's not really a compliment a woman would want to hear, I don't think.
Joelle?
No.
Yeah.
No.
But it was random.
I think he comes back again.
I saw on Scrubs Wiki on his name tag uh his picture is sarah
no so the people in the name tag and the people in the name tag office also were confused
yeah so as somebody who smokes jazz cabbage every now and then this did not make sense to me
this all of a sudden like this this episode as as much as I laughed at this episode, this episode seems like, you know, and it has some really grounding moments between
JD and Cox, but everything around it other than that is like, what the heck? Like everything,
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Yes, it is a very stonery episode.
If you like jazz cabbage, this is a good one for you.
This is crazy.
Dude, I go up somebody's butt and find a golden colon as indiana jones now you must have
loved this because you this was first of all a very funny big fantasy uh they clearly built the
inside of a colon as a set and you love indiana jones so was this a big moment for you i tried
to do my best indiana jones walk i tried to do everything that I could to pay homage
to one of my favorite
characters in cinema
history. Well, I think you did a really
great job. Thank you.
There's some clear
references to Indiana Jones, right?
Instead of you go colon, why did it
have to be the colon? Right. Instead of snakes,
why did it have to be snakes? Right.
And then
they did a good job with those arrows.
That looked good.
Yeah, special effects department.
Yeah, that was all effects.
But I mean, it looks good.
And then you replace the tumor with a bag of what is it?
Sand.
Sand.
Is that what it is in the movie?
It is in the movie.
It's a bag of sand.
And he tries to weigh the sand to match the amulet.
Not the amulet, the idol.
And then you come out and the nurses have arrows in them and you say something like.
They knew the risk.
Something like they knew the risk.
Is that in Indiana Jones 2?
No, that's not.
Oh, okay.
Jewel, are you a big Indiana Jones fan like Donald?
Oh, hell yeah.
The three that exist.
Okay, can I
ask you a question?
Are you saying that the fourth one doesn't count?
What fourth one?
Oh, there we go.
That's how some people feel about season nine of Scrubs.
This is what I was going to ask you because
and you're right about that too.
A lot of people pretend that
the ninth season of Scrubs doesn't exist.
Are you excited for Indiana Jones, the next one?
Am I excited for the next one?
Yes, Joelle.
Well, we'll see.
I'm going to see it.
I'll see all the franchise properties.
Am I excited for it?
No.
I mean, I'll have a countdown going, and I'm not checking for new trailers, but I'll watch it. It's like, I imagine when Charles Bronson was getting old as fuck,
people were like,
I just don't know if I could go see this movie anymore.
You know what I mean?
Not that Harrison Ford is old as fuck,
but like he's getting up there in age now.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I don't know if I can buy him freaking beating the crap out of 25 year
old Nazi men.
You know what I mean? Like, it's it's like yeah and they haven't aged up the
storyline at all either like a 45 year old like anthropologist is doing much different things than
a 70 year old anthropologist like if you're in the field what does that look like and how does
it change and are you you know he's a teacher like there's so many opportunities i think for
different storylines that make sense that keep that classic cinema style that sort of made the original three so successful.
Is Spielberg directing it?
Oh, I don't know.
I don't know who's directing it sorry. I love the movies. You know, I love the suspended reality of movies and everything like that.
But that's some bullshit, dude.
Come on, man.
Oh, well, you know what?
James Mangold, who wrote Logan, is doing it.
And I love Logan.
And he did an older Logan, so maybe.
Yeah, but Logan's also a superhero.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
That's the one thing that you could...
The dude has super strength and healing.
But if you removed all the superhero elements
from that movie, it would still be bomb.
It'd still be so good.
Well, he'd be dead in the first five minutes
of the movie, too, if you removed all the superhero elements.
If he survived the shooting, it would still be awesome.
It would be a wrap.
So, JD doesn't know that Arnold Palmer is a golfer.
That was really funny, I think.
That was weird to me.
Why?
That was also weird to me.
Why are you hating on this episode?
Because it just was out of control, man.
I'm sorry.
I'm not hating on it.
I just thought this episode was out of control.
Do you like the television show Scrubs?
I love the show Scrubs.
I love the music.
I love the actors.
I love the characters.
Well, I thought it was very funny when I say,
I'm talking to him about the Arnold Palmer drink,
and then he says, Arnold Palmer's a golfer.
And I go, I'm sure he has a lot of hobbies.
Perry, the man's a drink mogul.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, this part of the show, I did laugh at,
and was like, this is the most scrubs out of everything.
Everybody's around outside in the parking lot.
And Kelso goes, hold on.
Wait a minute.
Take a look around.
Bleacher, ladder, bucket of combs.
She's trying to take the picture.
Run.
And everybody runs.
That shit cracked me up so hard.
Everyone had been lured uh out to the parking
lot being promised different things yes and uh and and todd had thought there was a booby touching
booth by the way we skipped it but the the the pictures of the of the other years where carla
has tried to to get everyone together were so funny. Todd's in everyone in a banana hammock.
And like the first year, there's like three people.
The second year, there's like two people.
And then the last one is just him and Carla.
Yeah.
The crew photo that is taken both at this point,
the janitor ruins with his mirror,
and the one at the end is all our crew.
That's our actual crew.
And that's not everybody.
You get the sense of how many people worked on the show.
That's not even everybody,
but that's as many people as were available that day
to come be in the picture.
And at the end, you'll notice that Bill is in it twice.
So I'm sure on purpose, knowing him.
So there's a close-up, and you see Bill in the background.
And then it pops wide to show everyone,
and now he's lying in front.
Yeah.
Like Waldo.
Look for Bill.
You know what?
I want to say something also, buddy,
because I have been shitting on this episode,
but I also wrote in my notes, you know,
ZB's on fire this year.
Oh, well, there we go, finally.
You have some, you literally are on fire this year.
You have a rhythm going.
You're very funny and you're very charming.
The thing that we didn't talk about is the bucket, sorry, the nurse's basket and JD taking a bite out of everything.
Yeah.
That was very, very, very, very funny.
Yeah.
And right after that, right after the last one happened where you i
guess it's the fruit yeah a bite of all the fruit yeah yeah and you're like whatever type of yeah
fruit that was that you just ate i wrote zb is on fire this year you were is this the first year
you got nominated i don't know about that but i i definitely i feel that i'm extra silly this year
i look like i'm really happy to
be there i i'm not that i ever wasn't i just mean like i don't know some seasons i i agree with you
i had i just see an extra pep in my step for better for worse maybe sometimes it was too much
but i just look like i'm all fucking stoked to be there and i'm i know i improv like a crazy
person on this episode a lot of this wacky shit i shit, Bill and you were all just making up at the time.
So this was – I don't think anyone ever thought Dr. Ocula was going to become so popular.
This was the very first mention of vampire doctors.
And someone says vampire doctors, and I go, how did he know about my screenplay?
And then the fans, as we all know now, thought that was so funny.
And to this day, it's one of the most referenced things that ever comes up in my life regarding Scrubs.
People are like, when are you and Donald making Dr. Acula?
I really think we should make it, but make it a animated cartoon or animated stop motion animated movie.
And we do the voices of the that's amazing that's a great idea you know
you know people always ask us to do about doing some sort of scrubs thing now and you know it
would be the the easiest thing not easiest in terms of getting it made but the easiest would
be an animated thing yeah an animated series because everyone everyone would of course lend
their voice and i don't know who the fuck's going to write it,
but we wouldn't have to all figure out schedules
and how to get it together.
But that would be cool.
Well, yeah, it would be dope.
Think about it.
There's Clone High.
Back in the day when we were kids,
sitcoms did actually become cartoons on Saturday.
There was Punky Brewster.
There was Steve Burkle.
There was a bunch of those.
It would be really cool actually for Scrubs to become a sitcom animated show.
I personally, you know me, and you all who listen to the podcast know that I would prefer
it to be stop motion.
I think that would be a really cool look.
Right.
But isn't that so much more expensive to do stop motion?
Not necessarily. It all costs money. No matter how you look. Right, but isn't that so much more expensive to do stop motion? Not necessarily.
It all costs money.
No matter how you look at it, it all takes time.
Right, but I'm saying compared to 2D animation,
isn't stop motion a lot more expensive to make?
I don't know the answer to that, to be honest with you.
Oh, I thought you might because you're so into the art.
Well, I mean, I don't know the answer to that, to be honest with you. Oh, I thought you might because you're so into the... Well, I mean, I don't know how much Raya...
Those are all 2D animated shows.
I mean, movies and stuff like that.
And I imagine that having animators, period,
paying animators long hours,
it still takes years to make.
I can't answer that question well
can you see if you can find an answer to that i've i've never known the answer like
is i would just assume in my head when i watch the stop motion videos of them doing it like oh
my god the man but it all takes time it all takes time that's the thing though and it all takes i'm
just curious i'm just curious like one person in cg animation doesn't do everything they do
one thing and then another person does the shadowing.
And then another person does the coloring.
You know what I mean?
I'm just curious.
I'm curious to know the answer if which one in general costs more.
And Joelle's going to find out the answer.
There's a random moment.
Who gave her a shade remote?
I didn't know we had shade remotes.
I don't know where that comes out
um oh no so then this is really funny when i when i when i'm telling you guys about
first of all i suck the blood out of the the you know the the female patient and i spit it into the
test tube right and that's a fantasy and we pop and i'm telling you guys in the cafeteria about
my my screenplay and you guys are so geeked out about it donald you're really into it you're ready to
star yeah and then i and i go and then and i you see the dr ocula with the period come up on the
screen i'm like you take that period you get it out of there you squish it together it says dracula
and then you're like that's an awesome ending and i go thank you for
telling me what i already know turk you know you know um i just realized something jd wrote dr
akula it's his story it's his story and he keeps trying to get at me well when this continues
the joke we we we keep trying to find moments to to make it in the hospital right that's when you
with the wig yeah with that wig moment that is so funny
when you the camera that's straight out of hollywood shuffle yeah the camera
the camera falls over and now I'm wearing the wig.
Oh my God, that's funny.
My other idea I pitched to Bill,
I know I mentioned it on here,
but my idea for a Scrubs movie was that somehow we come into money,
like a patient leaves us money or something,
and we use that money to finally make Dr. Aquila.
That'd be fucking hilarious.
A live-action version?
Yeah.
A live-action version of Dr. Aquila?
Would it have, like, crazy special effects,
like real explosions and special effects?
Sure.
I don't know.
I just know that the fans, anytime you talk about this stuff,
they go, and when are you, like,
if I ever, like ever post a picture of me
on a set, they're like, please tell me
it's Dr. Aquila.
Imagine if we made...
Imagine if I posted a picture of me
behind a movie camera.
Some of you are like, finally making Aquila, huh?
Imagine if we really
made Dr. Aquila and we went all out,
balls out, and fucking Black Widow'd that bad boy
like straight up like
with the uber duper special effects.
We should call Kevin Feige and be like
listen, I know it's not
a Marvel property, but we have an idea
for you. We got a bad guy for Blade.
We got the bad guy
for Blade. It's Dr. Acula
played by two actors
Donald Faison and Zachraff uh what is
joelle saying here so basically missing link which is a movie like it did that stop motion
that had a budget of 102.3 million and then over the moon which is a cgi movie that came out same
year for netflix uh was 44 million that's different that's different the same level of talent what about uh no just look at uh look
at pixar what pixar costs and we'll look at what do you toy story for a budget yeah well that
doesn't count because of everyone's salaries on like no well this that movie had that movie had
zach galifianakis the one i'm the one she's talking about had zach galifianakis so but it's
but it's by by the time you're paying Tom,
imagine what Tom Hanks is being paid in the fourth version of Toy Story.
You got to do apples to apples.
Okay, so let's do Raya and the Last Dragon then.
Okay.
Which is a couple of years later.
That's a good barometer.
All right, so brain freeze.
A hundred million.
Oh, wow, so still.. 100 million. Oh, wow.
So still.
There it is.
So stop motion costs more, yes.
Yes.
I got it.
Donald, your brain freeze scream is very funny.
It's very real.
Have you ever had brain freeze?
I hate brain freeze.
I get it all the time.
I hate it.
Everyone has brain freeze.
You know what the funny thing about brain freeze is?
While you're screaming in agony, you're still scooping up
the next bite.
Nobody really hates brain freeze that much.
You know what you're supposed to do? By the way, here's a tip from a
fake doctor. You're supposed
to press your tongue
to the roof of your mouth.
Right, Daniel? Very wise.
I have heard that. But do you know why?
I assume because your tongue is warm and it's going to heat up the cold spot right well yeah because that's where your
brain freezes your brain freezes when your tongue hits when the cold hits the roof of your mouth
yeah what a weird human defect yeah so look we pretty much went through all the show do we got
a caller or anything like that why are you rushing shit calm down yes we do have a caller um okay well you're just okay what did i say jambalaya
that shit was hilarious he goes how old do you think i am and i'm like change the subject you
and eden should come over for some jambalaya and he goes oh it would be good to get her out of the
house and i'm like change the subject back. You're 78, sir.
You think I'm that old?
Jambalaya.
That's funny, right?
That was very funny.
And then he admits that he
trolls from all ass.
He trolls Brookstone.
Brookstone.
He hangs out at Brookstone.
I don't even know if there still are Brookstones.
I don't know if they exist either.
I don't know if they exist either.
He's still hanging in there.
I used to love Brookstone.
Hell yeah, man.
And the Sharper Image.
When I was a kid, if you went into Sharper Image, I just thought it was the coolest place in the world.
Yeah, absolutely.
I would get the Sharper Image catalog, right?
And I'd have my little bottom.
I'm taking a twosie.
And I put the catalog little bottom, I'm taking a twosie, and I just,
I put the catalog out on my lap,
and I'd turn,
and my thing,
and I would,
listen,
I would be so excited.
I'd like wait for the,
it was like,
I'd wait for the catalog
to do this poo,
and then I'd,
on each page,
I'd be like,
okay,
if I could pick one thing,
I'd pick this.
Okay,
next page,
fold it over.
Okay,
if I could pick one thing, I would pick this, Okay. Next page. Fold it over. Okay. If I could pick one thing, I would pick this.
And I would play that game with myself.
When we listen back to this, I want you to listen to how you set that story up.
I just want you to listen to how you set that story up.
I'm just telling you how geeked I was.
When it was a Sharper Image Catalog day and I had a poo, it was very exciting.
catalog day and I had a poo,
it was very exciting.
I would like fold down the corners being like, one day I'm going to get that
massage chair. Do you want to know
when I realized Star Wars was like a
big deal for me? When somebody came
over and was like, wow, man, you got Star Wars
in your bathroom. Like, I literally
had Star Wars books
because I thought it was cool for people
when they came over and they
were taking tuesdays that was for your guests so they could they could read they could you know
what i mean and i had it lined up and you know in series order all of these comics and everything
like so that people were going to spend a long time in your bathroom oh they you know do you
think it's weird to lay out reading materials for guests in the guest bathroom i mean i think now that we
know about hygiene like uh covid hygiene and stuff like that i think it's weird because you know
wiping your ass and stuff like that i know but when your guests are coming over like i'm talking
about like i have this little like half bath for it with it for guests right now i have some reading
materials in there that are just like, hey,
take a look at this book.
But sometimes I'm like, is that weird?
Because I'm telling them
don't just have a quick poo.
No, stay a while. Read.
I feel like everybody has phones
now, so I can't imagine myself being like,
let me just pick up this book.
But if it's a comic book you might
pick it up like that's what that was that was my whole angle my angle was i put comic books in here
so that when they come and they can look at pictures and you know i bet there's so much less
reading on the toilet now that people have phones like people just read their phone joelle's right
they don't pick up a nice a nice book that you've left out for your guests.
Well, no, because hygiene now also suggests that that's not really the best idea.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to put a piece of fishing line on the book and see if it breaks.
I'm going to see if anyone has picked it up.
That's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to hide a piece of fishing line to the reading materials that I've set out and see if anyone picks them up.
piece of fishing line to the reading materials that I've set out. See if anyone picks them up.
The janitor is finally so thrilled to be included in the photo that he hugs Carla.
He's so tired of being left out. Yes. Who says this great line, never make assumptions based on your own perceptions? I think that's a Cox line. It is. It's him to me because I've made an
assumption based on my perception of her
age that she's ready to go.
And she's like, what are you talking about? I'm not ready
to go. I'm ready to fight this fucking thing.
And I think that's very good
Scrubs life advice for
Earth. Never make assumptions
based on your own perceptions.
Think how many times you've gone down the road in your head
making up these elaborate stories of what might be,
and none of it is true.
It's just shit you're making up in your head.
It's very hard to live by that
when you have so many distractions
like Facebook and Instagram and Twitter.
I know, I'm just saying that something happens,
we all make up an elaborate story
of what we
thought that that meant and then of course when it's disproven and you get all anxious and in
your head and depressed and pissed off and then of course later 99 of the times it's disproven
and it's not that and then you just move on to the next thing you don't ever teach your brain
be like hey remember that day you spent stressed because you thought someone was ignoring you when they actually didn't
see you it's like we don't uh we we don't learn you know we oh i mean i guess i'm saying i shouldn't
be saying a universal we i'm saying i i i find that i you know make make assumptions based on
my perceptions same boat life would be so much easier if we could stop ourselves from doing that because
we suffer so much from things that we make up in our head that aren't have any basis in reality
challenge to shake your own perception like literally shake the way you view the world
we're also given so many views of how the world should be for us you know what i mean like it's
not like we're you know you open up your you open up your phone, you turn on the TV.
I'm not talking news, like sitcoms, whatever it is, fantasy shows, whatever it is.
There are so many things out there that are so opposite of what you're trying to do.
If you're trying to just be like, all right, if everything out there doesn't exist, well, it does exist, but if everything out there, my perception of what's out there isn't exactly accurate because I don't know what's out there,
but yet I'm giving all of this, given all of this false information from, I hate to say it,
but from media, like whether it be, you know, Instagram, whether it be television whether it be you know uh whatever whether it be your favorite uh i don't know i don't know why today i'm such i'm a hater today i'm like a hater
on everything you're in a weird mood today i think we can all agree that you're in a weird mood that's
what i'm talking about all right but like i'm saying i wasn't saying i i i maybe i was misunderstood
i wasn't saying related to our perceptions of the media. Just to use a
quick example, just made it out of the blue. You see a friend and you wave to them and they ignore
you. Okay. Now you might spend, if you're neurotic and like me, you might spend all day going, what
the fuck did I do to Paul? Why is Paul mad at me? Fucking hell. I bet it's because, oh, I bet he's
mad because of this. And I suffer all day long.
And then later, I run into Paul, and I go,
did I upset you? And he's like,
what are you talking about? I didn't see you at the
grocery store. What are you talking about? Now, I spent
the whole day anxious about what I did
to Paul. I'm just talking about that
level of shit. That's what I mean.
I got it. Understood.
And I think that other people
suffer from this. It's horrible.
And we just go from one thing to the other.
It's hard to shake.
It's hard to shake.
The show ends with-
I wish I got to pull a bong hit.
That's a fucking rip.
It's a big rip.
Yeah, let the whole thing play.
That is a fucking,
holy cow, dude. you don't smoke it
through a glass tube do you just roll it in papers no i smoke it through a glass tube so you're back
on that ganja huh you know i decided today that i was going to get off of it actually all right good
i decided to do the save it for you can't do special occasions. You're not capable of that. No, I'm not capable of every once in a while.
Yeah.
Well, that's good to admit to yourself.
It's the truth.
And so because of that, my wife's going to be very happy about this.
I'm going to go for another streak.
I'm of the school.
You ready?
Yeah.
If one is incapable of not
doing something
occasionally,
then they probably shouldn't do it.
Then there's so many things in life
that I can't do.
If that's the case.
What are you incapable of doing
occasionally?
You want the honest to goodness truth? I know sex, you that's the case what are you incapable of doing occasionally you want the honest to goodness truth i know sex but that's that's you love sex we all know that besides sex um i love toys i mean things that could be harmful to your body not toys
oh well shit weed, that's it.
All right, weed and sex.
Well, you don't have to give up sex
because your wife enjoys sex with you.
Zach, I love you.
I think I'd fucking kill him.
Should we bring the guest in?
Let's do it.
Let's take a quick break.
I am going to pee urine through my urethra.
No, they don't need to know that.
No, what's going to happen is
my urine is going to be pushed through my urethra and it's going to end up in a bowl of water and we'll be
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I haven't really listened to it.
It's very hooky.
So I'm not a big... Are you a radio listener, Daniel?
Or are you a...
I have my iPod, and I found some songs on a...
You know what I mean?
Like, how do you do it?
Spotify.
Pretty much exclusively.
Like, I mostly listen when I'm at my computer.
When I'm in the car, I'm either listening to podcasts or i'm listening to spotify zb yes yeah i put on a i i
vacillate between like lithium unserious um which is like 90s grunge and then i listen to like um
there's a channel called spectrum i listen to a lot of news when i'm in the car but i also play
hits one which is like whatever the latest pop song,
top 40 pop songs of the week.
And that's where I hear the new joints.
Well, I'm also friends with Ed, so I like to hear what he's up to.
He sent it to you before it came out?
No, but I emailed with him and said,
this is very hooky and great.
Congrats when you're coming to LA.
I haven't necessarily got
hooked on that song yet.
It's very hooky. You're going to love it.
We've listened to it a couple of times.
It doesn't even sound like him,
I feel like. Well, he also then
put out an acoustic version of it, which
sounds way more like him. Yeah, it sounds like a dance track.
But, you know, it's summer. You need a bop.
Right, Joel? You need a bop. Don't the kids like a summer bop?
Everybody loves summer bop.
I just love Ed Sheeran, to be honest with you, man.
I like Ed Sheeran and I like summer bops.
Alright, let's bring in the guests. Let's see what Joel has
planned for us today.
We got a caller
who gave us a holler.
We can talk Star Wars or sing
show tunes, you know, like a baller.
Smoke some jazz cabbage, maybe talk about the episode So come on, Joelle, let's get the show on the road
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Good to hear from you.
Welcome to the program.
That's Donald Faison, the Joel Monique,
and everyone's favorite DJ, DJ Daniel,
who streams on Twitch, and you can throw money at him.
And he will, if it's the right amount of money,
he will take you private. And twerk it out. And he will twerk's the right amount of money he will take you private and twerk it out
and he will twerk while he plays
Tetris
nailed it
he looks like a guy I can throw a few bucks at
for sure
thank you
I would
watch you do anything on Twitch
I know that you play video games but I would watch you do anything on Twitch. I know that you play video games, but I would watch you do anything.
Come by.
Wednesday, Friday, Sunday.
I'm there, baby.
Donald, can we pitch things for you to do?
Sure.
Yeah, he said he would do it if we make it rain for him.
I'll make it rain.
I'll make it rain.
You don't even need to make it.
Look, we don't need to put a monetary incentive behind it.
You can just tell me.
I will legit make it rain, but I want you to do something. We have to set a date because we're pre-recording a lot of these episodes and
i'm sure there are going to be a lot of people that want to be on the day that we decide wednesday
friday sunday yeah but it has to be like wednesday the what or third friday the what all right well
we need to plan a date in advance that we can tell everyone and then daniel i feel like if i'm
going to watch a twitch stream if I'm going to make it rain,
I don't want to watch the thing that you're doing
because I don't care what you're doing.
I want to watch you do something I like.
All right, no problem.
Daniel's a great cook.
Daniel will make us something on Twitch.
He doesn't know.
So he's going to be performing West Side Story
basically, Zach, right?
Yes, yes. Not West Side Story, basically, Zach, right? There you go. Yes, yes.
Not West Side Story, but if you could perform a one-man show of Dear Evan Hansen or Wicked.
Oh, my word.
That'd be good, too.
Oh, word?
Not West Side Story, just Dear Evan Hansen.
No, he said Wicked.
He said Wicked, and we're holding on to that one.
By the way, Joelle, you got tickets today.
You told me to see Bareilles announced she's bringing back waitress and going to star in
herself.
What date did you get?
I'll go with you.
I woke up.
It happening on my birthday.
Wow.
Which is October 1st.
And I was like, that is too serendipitous for me to be here when the tickets are on
sale.
So I had to wait in line for an hour virtually.
And I got in and I got great seats in like the orchestra section.
I'm so excited.
It's going to be the best.
Joelle, I'm going to go too because I'm so excited about
Water. Here's the only problem
with her doing that thing.
I'd be in the audience and I'd be
like, do love song!
No. Do love song!
That's very disrespectful.
What about when
the people came to see your play? You think they're yelling
do Clueless!
Yeah.
They're like, Clueless just did that monologue. It yelling, do Clueless! Yeah. They're like,
Clueless just did that monologue. It was
funny. Clueless killed that monologue.
What's up, Clueless?
Clueless!
There's actually a moment in the play that I
did where we do break the fourth wall and we jump
into the audience. Really?
Yeah, take a uh
oh i hate that oh but it's steve martin you love it i know but i hate audience participation i was
oh but it's steve martin you love it don't say i don't want to be picked up on stage
but i'm thanks for making me feel welcome zach why what did i do you said you hate audience
participation oh no that's different i love guests and i love our friends and fans of the show i'm just saying i whenever i'm in a play and they start coming into the audience
and interacting with the with the audience i'm always like oh no oh no you get a little nervous
like don't like like i remember when i was a kid and i saw cats and they were like
sitting on your lap and i was like i don't want that cat to sit on my lap
i don't want that i don't want that freaking sweaty dancer to sit on my lap.
That sweaty dancer with their phallic tail.
Costume looks like it hasn't been washed since 84.
Yeah.
I don't like audience participation.
They lied.
That show lied, man.
That show lied and it lied.
Now and forever at the Winter Garden Theater, my ass.
Well, I'm sorry if you love that show, but I'm going to say something I don't normally ever say bad about theater.
Drum roll.
It's not a good show.
Was it a good movie?
I didn't make it through the movie but it's like it's poetry about cats
it's poetry about cats which if you love cats is your jam but it turns out it wasn't my jam
oh sorry trina do you love cats i'm a crazy cat lady okay so do you love cats the musical no
well you just proved my point you just proved my point you're a crazy cat lady okay this thing is
made for you someone clearly went andrew lane weber clearly went oh my god people love cats
what about a musical based on on cat poetry and they couldn't get trina
and i'm a crazy cat lady so all right good well you, you know, there was a lot of debate when they made the
Cats movie. I don't know if you guys know this, but
when they originally did the
computer effects, they gave the cats
assholes. Yeah!
Why did they take that out?
Why did they take that out?
It was really distracting to see all the
assholes.
So then they digitally had to go back and remove
all the assholes. And then they digitally had to go back and remove all the assholes. And then I saw
someone on Twitter
was like, release the asshole cut.
Who thought of that?
That's my question.
I just can't imagine.
All these things are tested. They must have gone to a test
audience and someone was like, okay, don't get me wrong.
I love cats. I love poetry.
Those fake assholes are really bumming me out well i can i can throw a a random thought for you and donald may uh catch on to this a little bit more i grew up in the great
state of kentucky and the kentucky mascot um used to have a tongue in his mouth um if you look at it
today there's no tongue in the university of kentucky mascot because If you look at it today, there's no tongue in the University of Kentucky
mascot, because if you look at
it, it looks very phallic.
Yeah.
He had dick tongue.
He had dick tongue?
Yeah. Yes. He had dick tongue.
Dick tongue. So you've heard of twat ears.
We now know of dick tongue.
Yes.
So there's some interesting folks out there, I guess, that see a bunch of dick tongue. Yeah. So there's some interesting folks out there, I guess,
that see a bunch of dick tongue.
Well, enough people saw dick tongue to be like,
no, we got to change that.
So apparently, like the Little Mermaid on the VHS
back in the day, I don't know if this is true or not because I had the VHS,
but then when I found this out,
I didn't have the,
I had,
you know,
CDs and DVD.
He drew a penis.
He drew a penis as the castle.
Drew a penis as the castle.
I had this.
I had,
I had this.
I sound like,
I sound like Brian Fellows
You're like I eat you a penis at the castle
Daniel we need that on the soundboard
Please
I hope you're keeping a list of these
I just thought that was
Outrageously
Like how mad do you have to be
To be like I'm gonna make it so that when kids look at
The cover of this They they think of Dick.
Pretty much.
Do you remember that camel, the camel, animated camel for camel cigarettes when we were growing up?
Yeah, penis face.
It was so clearly a cock and balls.
Oh, my gosh.
No, it was undeniable.
If you look at the Joe Camel animated character,
his face is a giant cock and balls.
Yes.
Just made you want to smoke it, right?
Trina, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to say this in front of you.
Joelle's used to her foul language.
I'm here.
I'm familiar.
I don't have to apologize to Joelle.
She knows.
Respect our queen.
Respect the queen.
Oh, by the way, I want to say something.
Sorry, Stephen and Trina, you're going to have your moment. Respect the queen. And when I say constructive, I mean everyone screaming at me. And I fixed the T-shirt.
So now it includes Ted.
It includes Jordan.
And I changed it from Todd to the Todd.
So if you were someone who already bought it, like I think how many people, like 500 people bought it?
You're going to have a very limited edition shirt.
You got it, You got it,
Steven?
No,
but I should have invested.
Oh,
anyway,
my point is that was a limited edition.
Those are gone.
And now I corrected.
We can email you our address,
man.
Now we have a fixed shirt.
Anyway,
they're on Cotton Bureau.
You go to cottonbureau.com and just look up fake doctors, real friends, and you'll see the shirts. All right, guys, you have a question for us.
Yeah. The first question I wanted to throw out to you was, you know, a lot of times if you're
just sad, upset, in a terrible mood, what's kind of your go-to or one or two go-to movies or TV shows that you can just watch
over and over again,
laugh and be in a good mood.
Donald,
that's a good question for you.
I like try.
I like movies.
When I'm feeling down and out that are where the character kind of feels like i feel but is
triumphant in an indian triumphant indian i should say yeah and so movies like growing up i was a
huge fan of can't buy me love and uh you know like rom-coms are great for when you're in your
for me personally when you're in your feelings and you want to you know
you want to still go through the emotions but at the
end of it you want to feel love
so for me a good
rom-com is always great
when I am in a bad mood
absolutely
I usually just try to
lean to comedy you know half hour comedy
I've been
yeah something that'll make me laugh i
watched um i've been watching the second season of dave lately it's hilarious really fucking bizarre
and weird but funny um yeah i tend to i tend to seek out comedic things i think to cheer me up
yep absolutely the other thing is um with how music is kind of so important in Scrubs and just kind of invoking the emotions and you're in what's the key memory that, you know, what's the song that invokes the key memory?
And if you care to share it, you know what the memory is.
OK, so for me, it's not my memory.
Well, it is my memory, but it it's not my emotion that i don't know how to explain it um in family ties it was
the first time that i realized where i felt the angst for another character and it was when alex
p keaton's girlfriend left for the first time and he's writing a letter to her at the kitchen table
and the music that's playing in the background i think is what did you think i would
do at this moment right and i that was like the first time that i felt
that the you know that you know the you know i had i'd never felt love before when that came out i
had never felt you know uh well i felt love for my parents but i'd never felt like love for a another yeah like a romantic love before but through that i felt it like really
for the first time through that moment uh and so i you know that's one that it's not my emotion. I mean, it was sparked by someone else's moment, but it still resonated in me.
Did you mean Stephen specifically in a piece of film or TV?
Not necessarily, just music in general.
Oh, yeah.
Because when I thought about it, I thought about Fool in the Rain with Led Zeppelin,
which is the song that we left and walked back down the aisle after our
wedding, kind of our song.
Oh, that's amazing.
Kind of brings me back to that memory and that, you know,
goofy conversation on, because we got married on the beach afterwards.
And, you know, it was kind of like, how far are we supposed to walk?
What are we supposed to do here?
Now where do we go?
We didn't do this in rehearsal very well. How far did we walk? What are we supposed to do here? Now where do we go? We didn't do this in rehearsal very well.
How far did you walk? Did you walk to Jamaica
to the ocean?
Yes! We kept on going.
Threw her up in my arms, and
we just kept on walking
for a while.
You said you
were in Kentucky, or you are still?
We are just south part
of Atlanta.
We're in Georgia.
I'm coming there on Wednesday.
I'm coming to the ATL. I haven't flown in so
long.
I'm going to suit up and come on a plane.
Donald, you've flown to Atlanta.
How long is the flight?
Four and a half hour flight from LA.
Yeah, about that.
Get yourself a movie to watch.
They call it Hotlanta.
Yes, it's hot.
It's very hot right now.
It's hot in LA right now.
It's LA right now.
I like it though.
People complain about it, but I like it.
I love it.
You like that heat?
I'd much rather be hot than cold any day absolutely
no doubt no doubt that cold can kiss it what did you think i i my answer to your question
i was because i was gonna answer like donald like what song i know i've said this before i'm sorry
to be a broken record but the sia song uh that ends six feet under, Breathe Me.
I heard it in the gym the other day,
and it instantly brought me back to all the emotions I had with that beautiful series ending.
And people say that I'm decent at placing music.
I think that's one of the best pieces of music in a show.
It was just so perfect and so moving to me.
Okay, and then there's one song that makes me cry in a show. It was just so perfect and so moving to me. Okay.
And then there's one song that makes me cry no matter when it comes on,
no matter what.
I don't know why.
Wait, I know what it is.
What you trying to get into?
What they're showing?
What you trying to do?
Right?
There can be miracles when you believe.
Zach still hasn't seen this movie.
He doesn't know.
No hope is frail.
Is this the Phil Collins Tarzan movie?
It's hard to kill.
No, this is Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey in The Prince of Egypt animated film.
DreamWorks' first animated film in 1988.
Achieve when you believe.
Somehow you will all right it's time for south atlanta's favorite segment it's time to fix your life
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Well, fantastic. As I kind of wrote in, March of 2020, we actually adopted or in the process of adopting two children.
two children. We got a call in January and 48 hours later, our son had come up from college.
We have an adult son and we were on our way up to Virginia, about a 12 hour drive to go meet the young man that we found out was available for an adoption. And we met him, his birth mother and his sister as well.
And instantly we just, we just knew it was absolutely right.
How old was the, how old was the child?
Abdul had just turned five years old and his little sister was still three, about to be four, actually.
And so we we met and we kind of started the process.
And their their birth mother then suggested or kind of threw it out there of would you like to would you like to have Asha come live with you as well?
Temporarily, temporarily, you know, kind of thing.
And we kind of understood that it was going to grow into keeping the children together in a brother-sister adoption.
And that's exactly what happened.
And of course, there's a, you know, there's a pretty long story and all kinds of details.
But, you know, that's right when the pandemic and shutdown hit and everything, which was
a blessing and some challenges at the same time.
And, you know, but it gave us a chance to bond and grow as a family.
And our son, Abdul, is we found out and, you know, we went through the testing process, but he is actually on the autism spectrum.
process, but he is actually on the autism spectrum. And he's, you know, he's relatively high functioning and he's, you know, been able to be a part of the neurotypical classroom and all
that fun stuff. But it has presented some craziness and some fun and challenges, but we've
also have a fantastic network of people around us
and some groups through our church and just various things that have particularly helped
with that. But specifically what we wanted to kind of throw out at you guys and knowing a little bit
about Donald's background, the reason I kind of reached out is we are white Caucasian parents and both of our children are of mixed ethnicity.
They are African-American and Hispanic and Middle Eastern.
And so I wanted to kind of throw out some thoughts about blended families as far as ethnicity goes.
Maybe some thoughts or challenges that have gone on there.
And kind of the second part is, you know, with the world that's kind of gone on,
I mean, America's always had trouble with racial and ethnical relations.
America's always had trouble with racial and ethnical relations. But of course, it's been magnified in our eyes over the last year and a half, just becoming aware in a different way.
And, you know, just as white parents, you know, being able to not just love our children
wholeheartedly and completely, just like we would with every child, but also understanding, you know, what does it mean to be, you know, what does it mean to be Black in America today?
And how can we help them see that experience?
Honor them, I guess is the best way to say it.
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Before Donald and Joelle answer that better than Dale and I think I could, I just wanted to say it's so impressive what you've taken on adopting two children who who really needed a family
especially now you learn that your son has special needs uh it's it's it's a real testament to to the
kind of people you are and uh i i i had tears in my eyes just listening to you talk and so i
i'm on behalf of i'm sure so many people that are listening uh it's it's beautiful that you've done
what you've done and uh saved lives maybe figuratively, but maybe literally.
Who knows?
But I just think it's really – I think it's beautiful what you've done.
And also, not to plug my movie, but this is – in a comedic way, in a comedic way, this is what Cheaper by the Dozen is about. and I are a black and white couple and I don't know anything about having black children and she's got an ex-husband who
wants the kids to be raised around
him, but he's never around. Anyway, you're going to
love the movie when it comes out.
Awesome. But Donald and Joelle,
do you have any thoughts for them? How would you
speak to how does a pair of Caucasian
parents make sure that a mixed
race child is getting
exposed to the right things that they should be exposed to.
The great thing is, is that whereas in the past there weren't great examples, there are a lot of great examples of, Zach just mentioned one, a Cheaper by the Dozen movie.
There's a lot of examples of blended families as far as the African-American experience right now.
right now as much knowledge as you can give your son about his ancestors now i don't mean his blood to his mom and stuff like that i mean like where he comes from that's really important how he got here as long as he is given or she is given the truth about
who they are their blackness all you know as long as that is handed to them they will have so much
power and so much knowledge to take out into the world with them i think knowledge of self is very
important of course and i would assume find cultural heritage yeah i would i would assume
find ways in your community whether it's through your church or through children's groups whatever Of course. Your cultural heritage. growing up in a super Caucasian environment. Yeah.
You know, I grew up in a very diverse community.
I grew up in Hell's Kitchen, New York City, and it wasn't just Black people.
There were Spanish, Russian, Jewish, Muslim.
I mean, it just was like a melting pot.
Right.
It's everything.
And I feel like I understand a lot of people,
the people in my community, because we were all, we were exposed to everything. You know what I mean? I got to see everything. I got to see Hanukkah with my friends or quinceanera with
my other friends. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, I got to experience different religions and
different backgrounds. And so I think community building
with the kids,
I think that's a big, big,
big, big part of creating confidence
in them as well.
I have three real quick tips.
One, make sure they have toys
that look like them
and then get those toys really well.
You know, I think that's really vital.
They actually have mixed dolls too,
if you seek them out.
I only know because they were obviously props
in our film that I was like, you know,
sorry, can't draw.
No, that's okay.
Two, make sure they know that they're beautiful.
A lot of black kids think they're ugly.
It's really sad. There are tons of studies on this. It seems a small thing, but it's really, really big. And then three, I'm neurodivergent as well. So I can totally empathize. I would say just be a total warrior when it comes to their teachers, particularly with your son you know i have a brother um and it was just really a struggle for him in school he was
the only black kid in his class and sweetest kid ever um but the community didn't know that and it
took them a really long time to figure that out and it was really really hard um so just make sure
the teacher knows that you know your children and that you know them and that you're watching and you're aware uh so that you can protect them when they're out in the world um and then one last thing
finally just make sure they have um adults of their same ethnicity engaging in their lives
throughout because like donald was saying you know community is really good there's also so much that
you know as like a young black kid kid growing up in a white community,
I didn't know until I got older about just like how other black people engage with each other
and things like that, that would have been really great to know what is a black nod and why is it
happening? And why is it important that I reciprocate that black nod? What does that mean?
So, and there's just things that you won't be able to teach them about that culture. And so, yeah, you know, just those things, I think, obviously, you've already given them so much love.
And I think that's the very first step.
I can't sit here and be like, and make sure it comes from love because it's clear that you love your children.
It's already clear.
Oh, my gosh.
You know what I mean?
More so than you have any idea.
Well, that's, you know, you're starting from an amazing place. By the way, even the idea to ask
the question and not just say, you know, I think it's just so important that you came on. I mean,
not that we're specialists, but that you're asking, and I'm sure you're asking true specialists
too, but even the fact that you're engaging in wanting to do this, I think is a great step.
And you'll continue to find resources, I'm sure, in your
community and I'm sure online that can help. Absolutely. I think the big word is the community
word that seems to kind of come through over and over again. And I definitely appreciate the
perspectives because sometimes when you ask questions, and I appreciate your confidence building
or your reassurance with saying that, Zach,
but sometimes when you ask questions,
you don't want to be offensive when you ask a question.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
Of course.
But also, we have a warped perspective.
Well, I should say, I can't speak for all.
I can speak for Donald and I.
We have a
warped perspective because we've spent our lives in new york city and los angeles and sure and i
think that we often have to you know recalibrate for i have no idea what south atlanta is like but
you know what i mean like i listen from the point of view of growing up in North Jersey, which is a lot like New York and L.A. and Chicago where I went to school.
So I have to always go, God, I have no idea what your community is like.
And so if, for example, you're in an all-white community or predominantly white community, it would be super important for you to maybe find an African-American mentor, older teenager that could be in his or her life or, you know,
something like that. Or if it just happens naturally at church, that's great.
But you know, it's, it's all about, you know, community.
It really, at the end of the day, it really is. You know what I mean?
And then, you know,
when your child's older and goes to college and,
or goes out in life and everything like that, when it's bait,
when you have a very strong foundation,
you guys know this, everybody knows this,
when you have a great strong foundation,
it's easy to thrive regardless of your,
I should say it's easier to strive
regardless of your background
because you have people that are there to support you.
Absolutely. regardless of your background, because you have people that are there to support, support a lot with,
with real support.
A lot of,
a lot of hurdles and,
and obstacles can be tackled and,
or removed.
That's what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
I was trying to shift it back to a comedic tone.
Absolutely.
I appreciate you guys.
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Straight up.
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All right.
On that note, live from Twatiers and Dick Tongue.
They would make a great couple. Twatiers and Dick Tongueue. They would make a great couple.
Twat Ears and Dick Tongue?
Yeah, they would.
Great couple.
Great couple.
A lot of nice kisses in that ear.
Listen, we love you guys.
You're incredible people.
And thank you for being...
You just restored...
You single-handedly restored
my faith in humanity.
Oh.
Well...
What, Trina?
I'm going to jump in there.
Trina, don't cancel it out because... She's about to be like... Trina's about to be like... No, no, no. Oh, well, what? Trina don't cancel it out because she's about to be like,
I didn't want to interrupt you earlier,
but you had said something about Steven and I'm going to tell you right now.
And that is these little people coming into our lives has been truly the most
humbling experience of my personal life.
And I cannot be more grateful for what these guys have taught us.
And I am so damn grateful to be a part of their journey.
Yeah.
Well, I'm still allowed to say that you're a pretty incredible person if you don't mind.
Okay.
But my point to you is I really feel like from our perspective, that's,
that's how we feel. I mean, it's, I think that's beautiful, but I also think from my perspective,
I love you. No, two adults who raised an adult child who then had an epiphany that they were
going to take on adopting young children. One of whom has, is on the spectrum. And not only are you it well, obviously, with so much love, but you're like, how can
we do it better?
I just think you're incredible people.
And, you know, sometimes you go on the interwebs and you're like and you look at what's
happening on Earth and you think humanity is fucked.
And then you meet Trina and Steven and you feel good again.
Like, yo, did y'all see what happened in London and Italy and how London lost?
But how the two black players missed the goals and how they're getting death threats and stuff right now?
That shit's fucked up.
So let's not think about that and think about how beautiful Steven and Trina are.
Okay, my bad.
We appreciate you guys.
Dick lips, chalk ears.
Oh, my God.
Dick lips, chalk ears.
You know, I'm protesting, but I can't help.
I can't, but I'm protesting,
but I can't help hitting the clap noise.
Dick tongue.
Cut ears.
Thank you very much guys for having me.
Hey, you're welcome.
We appreciate it.
Hey, you're welcome.
Thank you for coming on.
We appreciate you guys.
Thank you guys.
We'll see you in the future.
Be well.
Be well.
Thank you.
Bye guys. Bye bye. What, guys. Bye, guys.
Bye-bye.
What lovely people.
I think that's the first time the guests were like, we want to get off.
All right.
Thank you.
I think, you know, clearly they're church-going people, and you went into another round of
dick-mouthed twat ears, and they're like, well, we're going to get going.
We're going to get going.
We have a church group.
Right.
We don't want anybody to hear this. we're gonna get going we have church group right they're gonna tell their friends they're on the show and they're not gonna be they're gonna be like we we didn't it didn't happen their real names are probably carl and cindy right
all right um twat ears all right listen we love you all be kind be kind be like those people
they're i'm not saying you have to take on what they took on and go adopt young children in need
but be nice to each other don't it's so easy to be nice fucking mean it's so easy to be kind
right joelle you tell me. Always easier to be kind.
Even though I had one of those days where I was a hater,
at the end of the day, it was so much easier to be kind.
Don't spew hate, everybody.
Don't spew hate.
And when you get the opportunity, check out Zach's guns,
because he just flexed for us.
Was that what that was?
Was that what that was?
They're not going to get the opportunity,
because this isn't on the interwebs.
You got to put just the arm on the interwebs.
No.
Well, maybe for you, Joelle.
I'll slide into your DMs like your mom slid into mine.
Joelle, can I respond to your mom with a bicep picture?
She'll be very confused, but you can.
Joelle, he's got abs, yo.
He's got like real deal Holyfield abs.
I know.
I only sent them to Donald, but he told me to stop because he was feeling shifting movement.
There was a little bit of movement, man, and it felt weird. All right. Listen, we love you. Be kind to each other.
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