Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 602: My Best Friend's Baby's Baby and My Baby's Baby
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We don't talk about Bruno.
It was my wedding.
It was our wedding day
That shit is fire, dude
Lin-Manuel
They didn't nominate it for the Oscars
It didn't get nominated?
No, they chose
The end credits song instead
And I was like, mistake
I'm gonna just put it out there right now
The Oscars are making some real big mistakes right now
The fact that Spider-Man
The number one movie of all time,
wasn't nominated for Best Picture
is some bullshit.
Because all of the people
that went and bought tickets
for these movies or said movies,
they didn't watch that shit.
They all went and watched.
Everybody saw Spider-Man.
Everybody saw Spider-Man.
Everybody loves Spider-Man.
People saw Spider-Man once,
twice, three times,
and Oscars didn't even give it a Best Picture.
The people at the Oscars saw Spider-Man over and over again.
It's bullshit, man. Best movie
of the year, Spider-Man.
Okay, choices.
Best movie of the year.
Best movie of the year. I don't give a fuck.
You can say whatever you want to say.
But such and such did such a great job.
I don't care. Spider-Man, best movie of the year.
That's like when Star Wars was nominated for best movie of the year, and it didn't win.
Star Wars, best movie of the year.
Spider-Man, best movie of the year.
Well, I want to know what the feedback is for your show.
Alabama Jackson?
Yeah.
Great feedback.
The feedback has been so positive.
And the fans have said, first of of all all you fake doctors real friends who
moseyed on down to youtube and decided to click on the uh alabama jackson uh site on the adult
swim youtube page i totally appreciate you thank you so much and for those of you who put the nice
comments in there thank you so much to you haters come on bro come on buddy why are you reading uh
youtube hate comments that's like the worst place in the world i'm not it's like it's like one out
of every oh you're you're hunting for them i'm hunting it's hard to find it's hard to find i'm
sure after this they'll be like well fuck you then donald i'll say something but the the the
feedback has been great and now you know and this is what not
a lot of promotion i mean really only the promotion that we've had so far has been our podcast and
you know my instagram zach's instagram and you guys's instagram and you know social media
accounts that's pretty much it seth you know everybody else is you know we've all contributed
but you know the feedback that we're getting from what we've thrown out there is so great.
And so I want to thank everybody so, so much.
Will Adult Swim start to push it out a little bit, put some money behind promoting it?
Because that makes a big difference.
Yes.
So for the premiere of Robot Chicken, actually, they're going to put a promo up on the actual Adult Sw channel when robot chicken premieres this weekend so
cool it'll have already happened after we had this conversation will be after it but i'm very
excited about that so thank you adult swim for that very proud of you dude very proud of you
all the i didn't i didn't uh go hunting like you did for anything negative. All I saw was positive comments of people just praising the animation and,
uh,
and saying that it was really clever and smart.
And,
um,
you know,
my favorite thing.
Thank you,
Zach.
My favorite thing that's happened out of this is that I've read comments
like,
you know,
I didn't so far,
I didn't know that this happened and I actually went and looked it up.
So like a lot of people didn't know about the Greensboro sit and I actually went and looked it up. So like a lot
of people didn't know about the Greensboro sit-in and people went and looked it up. You know, we
have an episode out today about the Olympic protests where Tommy and John did the fists
up in the air and they'd only had one pair of gloves. So one has it on his right hand and the
other one has it on his left hand.
We tackled that today.
A lot of people didn't know about that.
So it's like, you know, it really feels good to be giving people like little tiny jewels of knowledge.
Just to, you know, and you can run with it.
You can either look it up and go down the rabbit hole or you can, you know, whatever.
I'm just happy that people are watching Alabama Jackson.
So thank you very much. Yeah, I'm happy for you, man. You're a, you're a, you're a show
creator. I have created a show and it's so hard to create something and, and put yourself out
there and work that hard and also be vulnerable with like saying, Hey, I put everything I had
into this and I know the interwebs and the globe is gonna judge
it now but you know you got to put yourself out there or else what the fuck is the point of being
an artist exactly and this is my first time doing that and i'm really you know nothing's gonna stop
me from doing it again obviously i mean well look how look how happy it makes you it's so clearly uh
so clearly lights
you up every time you talk about stop motion animation your whole face changes your body
language changes you get all all lit up I get crazy thank you guys for helping me promote it
too I really appreciate it and I want to thank you Joelle I just want to touch briefly on thank you so much for your beautiful uh intro about my manager
and friend chris uvain who uh i lost to suicide um last week um i had to sit out so thank you for
uh for doing i believe seth green stepped in is that correct seth green stepped in a lot of people
we had a lot of people come in to try and
fill your shoes buddy we had a lot of my mom my mom came through good burt came through like it
was crazy well i just want to briefly say that uh i lost someone very special to me um he's someone
that you know from the outside you would think had it all his His career was on fire. His relationship was good. He just bought a new
house. He loved motorcycles and had an insane motorcycle collection. And I knew that he was
suffering from depression. I didn't, I had no idea it had reached the suicide level. And he was
hiding that from me. And so you just never know what people around you are suffering and where they're
at. And it's very painful because I loved him a lot. I love him a lot. And I just wanted to
mention the suicide hotline. If you are someone who has this on your mind at all, or you have someone in your life who might have this on their mind.
It's in the United States, it's 800-273-8255. Again, it's 800-273-8255. I also wanted to say
that the Suicide Prevention Lifeline has a new thing that's happening, because I was just doing
some research on announcing this, isn't fully rolled out until July 16th of this year.
But in some places it is.
So dialing 988 will bring you directly to the line.
That's a great.
So write that down again if you have anyone in your life who you're worried about or you are someone who's having suicidal thoughts.
It specifies on the website that it isn't totally universal in the United States until July 16th, 2022.
So it might not be fully operational in your area.
In that case, use 800-273-8255.
273-8255. But by mid-July, just dialing 988 will bring you to a specialist and a counselor. And you can find also on their website, if you go to the suicidepreventionlifeline.org,
there's so much information. They have specific categories for veterans or for attempt survivors or LGBTQ plus people, youth.
It's an amazing resource, not just for those suffering from this disease of depression, but also for those around them who are so worried about them.
That's a good – I have a question to ask because recently someone said something that kind of triggered in my mind
oh is this person thinking about uh suicide how would you approach someone about calling this
number though well i'm not a i'm not a counselor so i feel a bit weird answering it i will just
say that i the way that i dealt with Chris was to always listen.
And I've dealt with depression in my own life. I've never been blessed to have never
been as depressed as thinking about taking my own life. But I have battled depression. And so I would
often just listen. And I think that's the best thing you can do is listen to someone. Obviously, if they start expressing suicidal thoughts, you need to take some sort of action specifically if it's imminent.
But with Chris, I never had any of that.
I would listen to him.
I would talk about things that had worked for me when I was really, really down.
But, you know, it's like a disease.
but you know, yeah, it's like a disease. The person is suffering so bad sometimes that,
that it's as though you're saying, oh, you've got a cancerous tumor in your stomach. Take it out. Why don't you just take it out? Come on, man, exercise, take out the cancerous tumor in your,
in your pancreas. Um, they can't, it is a mental disease that, um, that is so painful that,
that is so painful that sometimes for some people it is just hard to see continuing on.
And the thing we have to do is love them and surround them
and do everything we can so that they take steps that could save them.
But some people, like my friend Chris, just weren't savable.
I really like Chrisris juven most if you
ever hear you know if you looked at all of the you know the outpouring everybody liked chris man
he was such a good dude you know what i mean um i remember your birthday and spending hours in a
pool talking about rap with him how much he was into hip-hop music and loved hip-hop yeah loved um you know he
represented chadwick boseman um before he passed and uh i think that was a big big loss for him a
lot of times when people are suffering when something happens it can even bring them to a
to a lower state and i think that the the chad where he was very close with Chadwick and he represented Chadwick. And I think that was a big loss for him. But yes, he loved rap. He loved hip hop. Grew up in New York, Donald.
Loved Tats. He was covered in Tats. Loved motorcycles. He had the sickest
motorcycle. He has the sickest motorcycle collection. And he's just a great guy, just an amazing, humble,
loving person. When you had something going on in your life, you could bet he was going to be
the first person to text you and check in on you. And he had the most loving family. It wasn't like
this guy was like left alone, you know? He had surrounded by loving family that were doing anything and everything they could.
You know, money was no problem.
So they were trying any, you know, they were trying any drug.
They were trying any experimental treatment.
There's apparently a new treatment I don't really know much about, but I guess they did a 60 Minutes thing on it.
Maybe, Joelle, you could look it up for me what it's called, but it's in the spirit of a CAT scan. It's sort of magnets that spin
around your skull that has shown some success for people who are really, really, really
dangerously depressed. And he was going to start trying that, but didn't make it to that.
All right. So Joelle, you say you found out what that thing I'm talking about with the magnets is.
Yeah. It's called transcranial magnetic stimulation or TMS if you want to do some more research on it.
I've had a couple of friends who battle OCD or depression who've tried talk therapy and pills and all kinds of things and said they saw a great change after doing this.
It's not too invasive.
It's pretty quick.
So if you want to learn more about it, transcranial magnetic stimulation.
Yeah, that's some state-of-the-art stuff that's happening.
But if you're someone who's suffering or you know someone who's suffering, look into it.
And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, 60 Minutes did a piece on it that you could search.
It's definitely at the forefront of research for severe depressives.
So thank you, Joel.
Zach, I'm so sorry, man.
I still hear the pain in your voice.
Yeah, it's hard.
I'm sorry.
If I'm a little bit – I'm going to let you take a little more of the lead this show.
I wanted to come back and laugh with our fans and say I love you guys and thank you for your support and just be with you.
But, yeah, I'm still hurting a bit inside.
It's not something you get over too quickly.
But we will segue, as we always do.
What the hell was this episode?
This episode was nuts out of control.
I know.
I don't even think it was that good.
I think it's one of those that was not that good.
But it might just be my mood.
I don't know.
Let's change.
I want a 5, 6, 7, 8 so we
change tones, okay? I'm not
going to Eeyore through this whole episode.
I love you all. Let's get
into it. 5, Super Bowl ad, Donald.
Holy cow.
Oh, my God.
Number two most searched.
Now, I would have never guessed that.
Yeah, number two most searched.
I would have never guessed that, which I'm told through my ad friends is the most important metric,
which is the one that people seek out the most.
Now, we're second only to Scarlett Johansson, arguably the biggest movie star in the world. I would not have guessed, Donald,
that we would have been number two. I'm going to tell you something right now.
Individually, we are great. But I'm going to tell you something right now. Together,
we are like a dyad in the force. It's unique and powerful, dude. I'm telling you right now.
They check on us when it's you.
They check on us when it's just me.
But when it's us together?
Right.
Oh, my God.
It's like, what's that dude's name?
That surfer guitar player, Jack Johnson.
It's always better when we're together.
I'm telling you, bro.
I was thinking we're like the wonder twins
oh no no no no no yeah why why aren't we like the wonder because i don't want a form of anything
no i don't want to do that shape of um no but i i agree and i i just i'm i'm not just bullshitting
i i honestly thought like with all those stars and all those ads,
hopefully people would like it as of today,
which is the 17th of February.
It has 36 million views on YouTube.
36 million views.
That's amazing.
Which is insanity.
Yeah.
I feel like PewDiePewDiePew.
What's his name, Daniel?
PewDiePie.
PewDiePie.
I feel like PewDiePie.
Who's PewDiePie? he's a streamer with a lot
of views right daniel he's got 100 million subscribers on youtube yeah there you go i
feel like beauty pie 100 million subscribers beauty pie look a brother up um but it was fun
singing with you my friend and we had fun shooting it. And it was great watching it.
And I just love that everybody loved it.
And if you haven't seen it, hey, go add more views.
Go to YouTube and search Zach and Donald T-Mobile commercial.
I'm going to be honest with you, man.
I talked about it with you before.
I'm stuck singing that song.
I'm stuck singing all of the attributes that this t-mobile device has you know throughout my
throughout my house there's no hidden fees no price hikes one chord you know what i mean like
all of the all of the positive attributes that that thing has well what's clever about what's
clever about that ditty is that it gets stuck in your head and when you're singing the words
you're singing all the pros of their product literally what a jingle what a jingle it worked yeah and there's a minute long i hope that they
release because obviously the 30 second was for the um super bowl because it's so expensive but
i really hope they they released the minute long version because we
it felt even better as a minute long spot we got we got to sing more obviously obviously we got to
sing more but i will say this that 30 second spot came out great it did it did it's hard to pack a
lot of the funniest part of shooting that you guys was we're sitting on in this neighborhood and uh
we have like those two porches right next to each other both with chairs you know and i lean over to
donald i go can you imagine if we live like this like how great would this would this be? Like, I'm not talking, like, down the street.
I'm talking, like, I'm on my porch with my morning coffee.
You're on your porch with your morning blunt.
And we are just.
I have to stop smoking weed, dude, man.
I'm telling you, man.
It's over.
Again, it's over.
You've said that before.
Yeah, but this time it's health-wise, man.
I got sick and I kept smoking weed. And that ain't smart. You got a problem. Yeah, but this time it's health-wise, man. I got sick, and I kept smoking weed, and that ain't smart.
You got a problem.
Yeah, well, not anymore.
Now I'm on a break.
I'm on a break.
I'm on a Ross and Rachel break from weed.
I got to grow my mustache back for a role.
Nice.
Oh.
Nice.
So you got a job.
Man of mystery.
You got a job?
I got a mysterious little acting job happening.
Oh, speaking of being my own publicist, March 18th, guys, put it in your calendars, please.
Mark it down.
Please, guys.
I'm asking you right now.
Cheaper by the Dozen is coming to Disney+.
Yeah, baby.
Cheaper by the Dozen is coming to Disney+. Yeah, baby.
And Donald and Casey Cobb and their children,
I just invited to the Cheaper by the Dozen premiere.
Can't wait.
Joelle, you could probably use your press credentials
and get an invite and bring Daniel as your date.
I might could.
Let me see what I can do.
Get up in there, y'all.
If you can't, tell me and I'll get you in through my
peeps. I'd love to have you there.
It's very sweet of you.
I'm very excited. So please,
put it in your iCal
for me and Gab Union
and a bunch of kids making you laugh.
So this episode was a fucking mess,
man. I don't know.
So episode one and episode two.
It might be just that I'm in a sensitive, cranky mood, and I apologize to the audience.
Please, please have some empathy and understand.
But I do think this episode was a hot mess.
Episode one and episode two of season six so far have been wackier, way wackier than season five.
When I say way wackier, I mean way wackier.
Dude, at one point in this show, I have blue makeup on my hand with fake ice to make it look like my hand is frozen.
Do you remember that movie like the Santa Claus?
Do you remember when they did the Santa Claus 3 and like Martin Short was in it as Jack Frost and the costume he had on for Jack Frost?
And the costume he had on for Jack Frost, it was like blue makeup with like little fake ice coming out of his skin and stuff like that.
That's what my hand looked like.
For those of you who remember, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, I have to say, there were a couple of funny things, but I just didn't – I mean, obviously, they were dealing with babies.
It was babies, babies, babies all over the place.
JD and Kim are trying to decide whether to keep their baby or not, that we learned
happened without any intercourse.
There was some
semen that accidentally landed
in an outlying
area.
Probably on the vagina lip
is what they call it. Yeah, on the
vulva. I think we call it the vulva.
The vulva lip.
From what I understand, the correct term is vagina lip.
No, I don't think that's accurate.
Joelle, can you Google if you don't know?
I believe it's vulva lip.
That's correct, Zach.
I'm correct, right?
Yes.
Yeah, vulva, Donald, vulva.
It's vulva lip or just vulva?
Well, I don't know if doctors use the term lip, but vulva lip is more accurate.
You got your labia majora on the outside and then your labia minora on the inside.
Yeah, so labia majora.
They got a minora.
No, not labia minora.
Although I would love a labia minora if anyone wants to give me one for Hanukkah.
Oh, God.
No, labia majora.
I believe that the semen probably landed somewhere on the labia majora,
and one of those aggressive guys made his way in.
He was like, you know how kangaroos, they give birth,
and then the kangaroos have to climb up into the pouch.
Do you know about that?
Wait, hold on.
The grown man kangaroo climbs up into?
No, no, no.
A female kangaroo will give birth to minuscule little.
Oh, yeah, and then they climb into it.
And then they have a journey from the, I assume, the kangaroo vagina.
Lip.
Up into the pouch where they will get milk so it comes out of the vagina
onto the lip dan oh please check my facts i already have uh i already have joelle on many
other assignments i believe that the kangaroo um thing little it's not done yet it's like a little
it's like this it's like an inch big and it comes out of whatever area we'll call it the the vagina lip we'll call it the labia minora the kangaroo vagina lip that
sounds fun that's better okay and then and then it's that little thing's job to climb up into to
to go on a journey up the kangaroo to get into the pouch where i believe the nipples for milk are have you ever
looked inside of a kangaroo pouch when they know when the fuck would i have an opportunity
oh it's not cozy i always pictured it cozy like a sleeping bag i'm sure it is but there's like a
bone in there or some shit like that like it's nasty dana why do you look so furrowed am i not
i'm pretty accurate in this.
You're 100% accurate.
It's just, A, when I looked this up and I searched how do kangaroos,
before I even got the rest of the word out, it was R-born.
So big search energy over here.
And the first link I found just had some very graphic pictures.
Well, if you guys want to look this up on YouTube, it's very interesting.
Yes.
But anyway, what's very interesting. Yes.
But anyway, what's interesting is some of these – I don't know how many they give birth to.
Maybe that's in Daniel's article.
But they have to – I imagine one or two.
I don't know.
Joey's.
They're called Joey's.
That's the nickname for the baby.
But anyway, they have to – Oh, blossom.
Oh, my God.
You made a blossom joke.
A lot of our viewers are not going to get that.
A lot of our viewers are not going to get that. A lot of our listeners.
Anyways, it's the Joey's job to make it up into the pouch to survive.
And some of them don't make it on the journey.
Your facts are 100% accurate.
Let's take a break.
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I don't understand what the big fat ones are.
You don't put those inside of you, do you?
I mean, you do?
Yes.
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You do?
Yes.
This is a show about women.
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Okay, so Carl is in labor.
Yes, okay, so we should talk about this.
Jack is calling a lady fat in the beginning of the episode.
What a little shit.
Yeah, he's an asshole. parents that think it's funny when their kid says inappropriate mean shit which um which the arc of
the episode is by the end they end up saying something very sweet to him and maybe they're
going to start changing their way of being around their kid right yes and then you guys make an
abortion joke right in the beginning of the opening of the show like yeah but in the cold opening
it you think it's they're talking about aborting
their baby but they're actually talking about eating a slice of pizza well i think you know in
in in whatever year this was um bill was trying to push the envelope of of what you could do and
what you could say on network tv and of course even discussing abortion um is such a hot button
issue um discussing it on a network tv comedy hot button issue. Discussing it on a network TV comedy, hot button issue.
And I think he was trying to be brave and discuss real topics that come up in people's lives on the show.
So, yes, he was definitely being edgy at the time.
Yeah.
Elizabeth Banks is back, which is really awesome.
I didn't laugh a lot in this episode.
I laughed a couple times.
One of the times I laughed hard was when we have the collegiate drum line,
and we start doing the ass-smacking dance in the air.
And you smack my butt.
And then I turn to you, and if you look at some of the band members,
they're laughing their asses off because we were just clearly improv-ing.
But they're, like, holding in their laughs as I'm, like, smacking you.
You smack my ass, and I jump.
Yeah, to the beat. To the beat,
to the beat.
And then we both look at camera as you continue to smack my ass.
Now,
Miguel,
the drummer really,
really,
uh,
didn't want fries,
I guess.
Cause I,
I was very,
I was very specific.
You were very clear.
I was very,
I was very clear.
I mean,
I,
I really said,
look,
I'm going to cut you out of the fries.
And he fucking drummed again.
He kept going.
I remember shooting that.
I remember shooting that.
I remember shooting all of that.
That I do remember shooting.
I do remember the drum line.
I remember thinking that was funny at the time.
Now, the prayer worked.
Yes. um now the prayer worked we are yes god god answered our prayer and a dog brought carla's
bag to our feet yes but then some sketchy guy stole the bag and we never knew yes this is the
first mention of blurred right is this the first time you use the term blurred i believe so i'm not
sure because they didn't know what it was but I thought you might have called me a Blurred earlier on, and I was like, I like it.
Yeah, but did we make up the term Blurred or is Blurred?
No, we made that up.
We literally made that up.
If Blurred is in Urban Dictionary, I want you to know it's because of us.
Just like Keeping It Real was made up by yours truly.
Anyway!
And Black Stormtrooper.
And Black Stormtrooper, Star Wars.
Let's see what they will steal from
Donald next. Yep.
How pissed are you going to be when fucking Kevin Feige
announces Alabama Jackson
in the movie?
Black, black, black.
It's coming.
I know you got that shit on lockdown.
Now, Ted is going to film Carla's birth, and he accidentally somehow, I mean, this is like very early in the interwebs.
He accidentally live streams it to the whole hospital.
Live streams it to the whole hospital.
And the whole hospital is watching.
Yeah.
On the live stream.
Everybody's watching the live stream.
So much so that Kelso hits record.
Kelso records.
Todd says it's the greatest show ever.
Yes.
And then Todd runs into the room to tell her that she has a nice vagina.
Yeah.
Carla, there was something I wanted to tell you.
Oh, yeah.
Nice vagina.
No, he says great vagina.
Great vagina.
Great vagina. No, he says great vagina. Great vagina. Great vagina.
And Kelso calls this little boy's shirt gay at one point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was like, you've got wrinkly skin.
He goes, and your shirt's gay.
Yeah, you could make that joke.
Can you make it now?
I don't think so.
No, you cannot.
I don't think you can make that now.
No, you cannot. A lot of think you can make that now. No, you cannot.
A lot of baby talk.
Baby, baby, baby.
We finally have sex, Elizabeth Banks and I.
Well, no.
Turk.
I mean, JD and what's her character's name?
JD and Kim have sex.
Yeah, I didn't mean that.
It's just how it sounded.
We finally had sex, Elizabeth Banks and I.
We didn't.
Yes, let me clarify.
I meant the characters.
And her bedhead, her sex head was very funny.
Yes.
I guess, you know, at that point, it's like,
I got you pregnant.
Like, let's really do it.
Yes.
And apparently it was good sex.
Did you catch Taron in this?
Taron and his partner?
No. So you know who Taron in this? Taron and his partner? No.
So you know who Taron Cullum is?
Yeah, he has a whole giant arc that hasn't started yet.
This is back when he was doing an internet thing with his buddy.
You go back somewhere in the show.
When you guys are walking down the hall, when you and Elizabeth are walking down the hall,
show when you guys are walking down the hall when you and elizabeth are walking down the hall there is either you and elizabeth or you and i they're in the background looking over their
shoulders at us and this was before snl this is before maybe after mad tv but before snl
taryn gotta go back and look for it okay well what it is is bill had a show it was a pilot
and it was going to be a mix of it was, and it was going to be a mix of – it was trying to be a mix of reality TV and a real TV show.
I forgot what it was called.
And it didn't go beyond pilot.
But the idea was that the guys had – Taron and his partner had snuck onto the scrub set or something.
And so there was going to be all this, like, interwoven shit.
And that must be what that was.
Yeah.
to be all this like interwoven shit and that must be what that was yeah it was it was i i remember running into them like on a press line and they were either crashing the press line or something
and i remember taking a picture with them uh and that was pretty much it and i remember
saying thank you to me then all the years later after he blew up and everything like that, I ran into him at Comic-Con,
and I hadn't seen him since he was on Scrubs.
I was like, hey, man.
And he was with Moynihan.
He was with Bobby, who's a buddy of mine.
He was with a bunch of the cast.
And they kept going, and he stopped and turned around,
and we had a little bit of a conversation.
And this was at the height of the...
Well, for those of you who don't know what we're talking about,
he played Jimmy, the overly touchy intern, intern right yes right or really touchy orderly the overly touchy orderly
and then he and then he and he as the rare person who was both on mad tv and snl yes with anybody
else i don't know all i know is he i remember when he I remember when he was 18 years old, maybe 17 years old.
Jim Carrey?
Was Jim Carrey ever in a scene?
No.
No.
But he was on In Living Color.
Sorry, I'm conflating In Living Color.
Go ahead.
When he was 17 years old, we did a movie together called Big Fat Liar.
He might have even been younger than that.
He claims he was 17.
I think he was younger.
And I remember him saying to me i remember asking him dude you
know what do you want to do what do you you know you you want to be a stand-up what is it that you
want to do he's like you know what i really want to do i really want to be on snl and bam here he
is he fucking manifested that shit manifested that shit for real for real man i didn't even have i
didn't even have a number two most liked Super Bowl commercial on my whiteboard.
No, this just came out of the – I don't know.
I don't know how this happened.
The universe, Donald.
All right.
So then we know that JD about his Beanie Baby collection any longer.
Do you remember Beanie Babies?
There's a documentary that just came out about the craze of Beanie Babies.
I do remember them.
I never was a collector.
I never bought a single one, I'm proud to say.
Have you ever bought a single Beanie Baby and thought you had value and put it in a glass case?
No, I did have a couple of Beanie Babies.
Did you keep them in plastic cases?
I did not.
Joelle, you strike me as someone who might still have some.
I don't.
Though it wouldn't surprise me if I did.
I had a handful.
We bought them at the Cracker Barrel.
At the Cracker Barrel? They were cute. Wow. did. I had a handful. We bought them at the Cracker Barrel. At the
Cracker Barrel? Wow!
Yes! Come on, Midwest!
Cracker
Barrel. Wow. I only see
Cracker Barrel when I go to Marlin, Texas.
Right outside of Marlin, Texas.
Apparently they're about to order
or order. They're about to bring one up here.
Ain't nobody gonna eat
that buffet. Ain't nobody gonna eat that buffet.
Ain't nobody gonna eat no buffet.
Not a buffet, but it's the perfect spot for brunch.
Do they... The buffet
is the thing that everybody comes
for, though, in the Midwest, right? I don't know that Cracker Barrel
has a buffet. Which is the one with the
buffet? Golden Corral?
Golden Corral.
That shit is wild. I've never been inside
Golden Corral, I'm proud to say.
Well, the buffet is $50.
All I need is some bananas.
Go ahead and take those bananas.
Hey, you take these bananas.
Well, the buffet is $50.
Fucking Damon Wayans.
You just take these bananas.
You go ahead and take them bananas.
I wanted to ask you, yeah, Beanie Babies.
Yeah, people really, there's a doc that just came out, if you're curious, that explains the whole craze.
And I'm going to watch it because it was one of those things that was just – it was like Cabbage Patch Kids when we were young, like a phenomenon.
Beanie Mania?
What?
Is that what it's called?
Beanie Mania?
Beanie Mania on HBO Max, yeah.
There you go.
Beanie Mania on HBO Max talks about people going crazy.
So anyway, now Justin the Unicorn is a –
My favorite part.
This is my favorite part of the episode too.
That's the best part of the show.
Yeah, this is by far the funniest part of the episode.
She's like, let's split up and think of this on our own and go over this on our own.
What is it? What did she say?
Something like, let's go
think on our own somewhere.
Where do you go?
And she walks away and you go, where are you going?
She goes, I'm just going to walk around the
hospital. What about you? Where do you
go? Yeah, and then it cuts to me. I'm
sitting on a stuffed unicorn.
No, you don't sit on it. You're standing in front
of it first, looking at it. In your unicorn pajamas i believe you haven't said you do mount him yeah
at some point yeah yes i mount him and um and i go and then i cuts back and i go i go someplace
wonderful and then and then it cuts back and then this is uh you say did you go did you did you ask
justin and i say this is way over justin said he's never been in love not real love anyway
dude i laughed so hard i laughed yeah i laughed so Now, Justin, we know that I also have on my unicorn journal, and he's there to protect my hopes and dreams.
Yes.
Yes.
So when Keith showed up, I was like, what the heck is Keith doing here?
But it was obvious, so he could say that he wears a diaper.
It was just for the diaper joke.
Okay.
What about how we learn Leonard?
This is how Leonard lost his hand In the ice machine
Yes
Now, Leonard
He had a hand
Well, Leonard did have a hand
He lost in the ice machine
And he got 5 million dollars from the hospital
And still decided to go back to work
Back to work as a
As a security guard
Yeah
Now, it's very confusing.
I think he's there just for the ass.
Oh, because he does well with what's-her-name.
He does well with the ladies at the hospital.
No, he's committed to what's-her-name.
I do like me some white meat.
That's his what?
What's-her-name, the senior citizen intern?
I don't remember.
Gloria.
Gloria.
Sorry.
Everyone, all the mega fans were yelling that at their, no, all the mega fans were yelling
that at their devices.
It's called fan interaction.
Do you know how many people across the globe were screaming Gloria at their radio?
I'm going to say at least 10.
Yeah.
So wait, so Leonard is loaded is the point.
And he just works there to to get ass from gloria because
he he does not need uh five mil no so there's something that happens to turk where elliot
steals his thunder yes i'm gonna be honest with you i don't mind when people steal my thunder
because then it means less work for me but you know i guess turk in this moment really and i understand that really
wanted to be there for his wife who was delivering the baby right but sometimes people steal your
thunder and you're like thank you thank you for taking all of this pressure off of me i appreciate
it you know yeah yeah but i mean it's your wife and she's having a baby and ellen was kind of
upstaging you she was like doing everything you're come on, let me be the hero husband. And you finally get to have your moment because your ice hand is so cold.
Right.
My clearly makeuped with blue and white makeup paint ice hand.
We learned that Jordan had abortion.
Yes. ice hand uh we learned that jordan had abortion um yes um again i think um
bill was was trying to uh introduce that being okay for a beloved character you know this was
the time when this was way more taboo to talk about it still is today um obviously because
it's such a polarizing topic but but um again I thought that was good of him to, you know, make a beloved character like Jordan come out and talk about her experience with abortion.
And Dr. Cox's, this is what was Dr. Cox's parenting skills in this are so suspect in this episode until the very end.
Yeah. are so suspect in this episode until the very end yeah but saying these things to your child
at a very young age is very damaging and you will you know what i mean especially on purpose but you
could you laugh when your kids say outrageous shit yeah but i don't laugh when my kid if my
kids walking around talking about my mommy had an abortion my mommy had an abortion you know what i
mean like that's that's that's well i think the mind you know cox had a cox had a minor uh part of
this episode and and i think his his mini arc was was him realizing that because he ends it by saying
something so sweet to the child about how babies are made so his his mini arc was maybe he's going to stop talking to the child so...
Provocatively?
Provocatively and rudely.
Leonard clapping with his hook hand.
Oh, man, I wrote that down, too.
Oh, my God, I wrote that down, too.
The character, Randall really made a choice
that Leonard would be, like, really clapping hard with that hook.
He could hurt himself.
Yeah, he could literally cut his other hand.
His good hand, I should say.
His actual hand?
His skin hand.
His flesh hand.
All right.
Well, then you drag the ice machine over to the delivery room.
Which would be impossible if everybody knew how the hospital was actually set up in real life.
Right. Now, Kelso, because
he had to pay out $5 million to Leonard,
put in an emergency release.
Now, I'm just curious that none of your friends,
including me, searched for the emergency
release button while this was all going on?
There's no such thing as an emergency release
on a vending machine, bro.
I'm sure everyone must have looked around.
I don't know What?
That shit was so out of line
First of all you get your hand caught
In the candy machine too
This was a retread
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And we're back!
We are back!
All right.
What do we have for us today, Joelle?
Ooh, someone special.
Oh, shit!
Play that song, yo!
It's about to get real Star Wars up in here.
Play that song We got a caller Who gave us a holler
We can talk Star Wars or sing show tunes
You know, like a baller
Smoke some jazz cabbage
Maybe talk about the episode
So come on, Joel
Let's get the show on the road
Ladies and gentlemen
Give it up for
Maria Zantella!
Hi, Maria.
Hi, Donald.
Hi, Zach.
You guys have met before. Remember when you did the exes?
Yeah, I was the hair department head on the exes.
Oh, great. So I'm assuming that I'm putting two and two together, that you must be working on something Star Wars related.
Quite possibly, yes.
Quite possibly, yes, my ass.
Let's get into it.
What shows have you worked on in the Star Wars universe?
I've done the Mandalorian in both seasons and the Book of Boba Fett.
Wow.
And we'll be doing The Mandalorian Season 3
and Ahsoka is in the works as well.
Yeah!
And you're the hair department head
or you're just in the hair department?
What do you do?
No, I'm the department head
and the designer.
I design all of the lifts.
Oh, my goodness.
Fennec Shand's hair, all of that stuff.
Wow, Donald, you must be so geeked out.
Oh, no, we DM each other all the time.
She's a huge fan of our podcast.
Oh, thank you for listening.
We talk, you know, this is the person who,
the only person who I spilled the beans to
on when the podcast was coming back.
We surprised everybody, but Maria knew first.
Yeah, well, I got to tell you, my first question.
I'm a huge Grumps fan, too.
Thank you.
I just want to know, I don't think you mentioned
that you do Obi-Wan, but will Hayden Christensen
have his long braided tail?
I can't answer that.
I do.
You can tell us, Maria.
We won't tell anyone else.
We'll just bleep it out.
Joel.
You're going to have to watch and find out.
Donald, it's so good to see your face.
It's good to see yours, too.
I miss you.
I miss you, too.
I miss our chats.
We had such a good time together.
We did have a great time together.
So, Maria, for people who love behind-the-scenes stuff, and of course, zillions of people who love the Star Wars universe,
how does—explain to them, and there might be some people who you—I'm sure there's people you have their dream job.
How does it begin for a character?
Will it be a character sketch, or do you sketch what the hair might be?
How does the process begin, for example, on an episode of Mandalorian and there's a new character?
Well, on these shows, everything is pretty well fleshed out by the time we even get hired.
They've got a huge crew of people that do pre-visualization and sketches.
And there's a whole design scape that we can go into and see the sketches of people.
And so that's sort of a jumping off point, I guess, basically the ideas of the, you know,
the directors, the producers and the designers that they bring in.
And then once the actor comes into play, we discuss that and go from there.
And some things stay very similar and some things change, you know, 100%.
And how big will your department be on a show like Mandalorian in terms of all the people that are both on set, off set, the people, the craftspeople that are building the wigs?
Like how many people will work on a show like that in the hair department?
We have a permanent crew of three.
But on any given day,
it can be, I think we've had
16 or 17
on bigger days.
But as far as building,
I design and build almost everything myself.
Wow.
99% of what you see on screen
has been designed and built by me. Oh my God. How
do you have the time? I would think that that would be a lot of sleepless nights.
I don't ever see my kid. That's for damn sure. Well, you knew when you took the job. You knew.
I asked her permission to take the job. I told her, I said, I'm offered this job and I'm not
going to see you for a while. She said, Mom, it's Star Wars.
You got to do it.
Aww.
Well, I mean, ever since I've known you, you've been a Star Wars fan.
You've given my daughter Star Wars t-shirts that your daughter once wore.
And so, yeah, it's the same thing.
I would leave my kids for at least five years if I was promised good health and I could guarantee that they were promised good health.
I'd leave them too.
I'd be like, peace out.
Now, Donald, or Joelle or Daniel, do you have a favorite hair or wig style of any of these characters that you want to ask her about?
If you really look at it,
it's really,
it's like,
it's got braids in it.
It's a long braid.
It's like,
there's a lot to it.
You know what I mean?
She could wear it up.
She hasn't really,
she hasn't,
she could wear it down.
She hasn't really done that yet,
but she can wear it up, up.
You know what I mean?
I want to see Fennec Shand
in a,
I want to see Fennec Shand
outside of her freaking armor and stuff like that.
We saw Boba Fett in the white jumpsuit.
I'd like to see Fennec Shand relaxing.
It seems like she's always in a war.
So my favorite hair design is Fennec Shand, and I know you had something to do with Ahsoka's headdress also, if I'm correct.
Ahsoka's? No, that's all legacy.
That's all the makeup department. They make all that stuff. All we do, what we do for Rosario is put her in a wig cap in the morning and then she goes to makeup from there on out. I don't
get to have any fun with her. But yeah, Fennec Shand is a great one because when she came in,
she didn't really have any particular ideas except except that as an assassin she wanted her hair to
be contained and you know and and out of her way so we kind of came up with an idea that incorporated
like some braids that looked like little fox ears because she's a female but she's a fox
and we thought she was going to die so we just did this really intricate thing that we thought
we'd only have to do for four episodes or whatever and then they didn't kill her so
now all of a sudden we have to do it every day right oh my goodness how long does it take to um to do that
i've i've figured out a method i'm pretty crafty that way and i've figured out a method where
we don't have to use all of her own hair and so it only takes about about 45 minutes now but i
think the first first couple of first couple times we did it it took about an hour and a half. How about you, Joelle?
Do you have a favorite hairstyle?
I have another one. Can I have one more?
Yes, Donald. I will allow you another.
And also the Luke Skywalker wig.
Holy
shit.
Not the first time, the second time.
Thank you. Perfect.
It was perfect. Yeah, Donald knows
how that hair falls, hair by hair.
But still, I mean, it looked just like Return of the Jedi.
Just like it.
It was identical.
All right, Joelle.
Background character I really like.
It's a simple hairstyle, but I think it's so evocative of, like, her character Zomera from Episode 4, Season 1 of The Mandalorian.
I just really like that character so much.
I really hope she pops back up eventually.
I'd like to see her again, too.
That'd be fun to go back to that planet.
That planet was fun for us
because we did, like, basket weave braids
and we used, like, you know, homemade yarn
that we'd gotten on the internet
and everything was real kind of organic.
There's been some rumors that Grogu is actually a diva.
Can you attest to this?
Well, he does have five people that travel with him everywhere he goes.
He can't work without those five people.
He rolls deep like Donald.
He needs five guys with him at all times.
Now, Maria, do you have any questions for us?
You are a fan of the show.
Anything we can answer for you
since you've been so lovely
answering questions
for my favorite geek, Blurred.
I was curious about
some of the more intense
hair and makeup gags
that you guys had on the show.
Just which ones were your favorite
and whether you enjoyed the process of getting transformed.
I'll do anything for a laugh.
You also had some amazing people.
One of the people who department headed your show in the hair department, Gloria Casney, now works with Johnny Depp.
I mean, she does amazing, amazing work.
You have some really great talent.
We had an all-star team.
And I was the victim of a lot of these ones that would take like eight hours or six hours sometimes.
But it was always worth it.
They always came out funny.
I think the most elaborate was when they turned Johnny into the Grinch.
Grinch.
I remember that.
Grinch.
I was going to ask about that.
Yeah, the Grinch was a great one.
And they did a very good job with that.
That took forever.
There's an episode where Sarah's ice hands,
this was early, I think maybe even season one or two,
turned me totally frozen into icicles.
And I remember that took a very long time.
And I think the tattoos of Julianna Margulies on my body took a very long time.
And bald caps, you know, take some time to make look good.
I've never had to wear one of those for some reason.
I wonder why.
It's built in.
Donald's had a series of high top fades, though.
I have had a series of high top fades.
You have had a whole series of high top fades.
You know, it started off where it was a nice fade.
And we did one on the X's too.
We did.
Ours on the X's was really nice though.
That was a, it looked like an actual high top fade.
The ones that we've had on scrubs were like one year, the first time I had a fade, they
put the hair on me.
It was like all messed up on the side and stuff like that.
Like the, and the, and the wig didn't fit.
Well, it had to be,
it had to be rigged so that you could pull your hair out.
Cause I forgot the Jordan tickets.
That wasn't the first time.
That was the second time.
The first time isn't a pilot.
They actually tried to make a fade hairstyle for me.
And then they were like,
we're just going to give them a wig.
And the wig was pre-cut.
And all I would literally do was put the wig on.
And that was it.
There was no freaking blending or anything.
It was literally Donald.
Put it on right before we go and that's it.
Well, yeah, we had an amazing team.
We did a good one on the X's.
We had fun with that.
Yeah, we did.
How about another question?
Do you have another question for us?
Oh, God.
I don't know.
I mean, I have so many scrubs related questions.
You don't need to have one.
We could fix your life. Do you want us to fix your life? I do need my life fixed. I mean, I have so many Scrubs-related questions. You don't need to have one. We could fix your life.
Do you want us to fix your life?
I do need my life fixed.
I've been bugging Donald.
All right, let's get it.
All right, well, it's time for Andor's.
I've been bugging Donald to fix my life.
Where does Mandalorian take place, Donald?
It takes place in the Star Wars galaxy.
Right now, it's been-
I know, but give me a fucking planet.
Navarro.
Tatooine?
We're going to go Navarro.
Okay, it's time for Navarro's favorite uh section of the podcast
it's time to fix your life so i am um as because i am now part of star wars universe i am having
to do a lot of not public speaking but i'm being interviewed a lot, and I'm being quoted a lot, and I'm not a person who does well on camera.
I get very nervous, and I tend to babble.
And I'm about to present an award this weekend to my boss in front of a large crowd of people.
Which boss?
And rhymes with Jan Schmabro.
Oh, the Jon Favreau.
The Jon Favreau.
Wow.
Okay.
Wow.
That's exciting.
Well, first of all, congratulations on being chosen to give an award to Jon Favreau.
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All right.
So you're giving him an award.
Go on.
It's in front of my peers.
It's a, it's a guild award for the hairstyles and makeup artists guild.
And we're presenting him with a distinguished artisan award.
And I have to stand up in front of,
you know,
all of my peers and in, you know, auditorium actually the Beverly Hilton, and read from a teleprompter.
And I'm just dreading it.
Well, are they going to give you a chance to practice?
Donald and I have both done this.
No.
No practice.
Do you know what you have to say yet?
I've written it, so I've got it.
Okay.
Well, one thing I would say is make sure
it's on your person in case there's a problem with the prompter. That's what I would do.
Yeah. They said I could also read if I want to, which might be easier for me instead of looking
at people. I think if you get out, first of all, they say the number one fear in human beings is public speaking. So you're not alone. This is a very, very popular fear for the human race because we're all afraid of making a fool of ourselves.
Yeah, that's Billy.
That's Billy pacing.
I would say if you genuinely get up there and feel so nervous, it's okay to say, I'm nervous.
I'm not usually in this position.
But then segue it, but I'm so honored that I get to be in this position because of John's amazing work.
I think people in the audience really relate to that because they'd be nervous to be up there if they're not a professional public speaker.
They'd be nervous to be up there, you know, if they're not a professional public speaker.
So if you're feeling nervous and you're handshaking and you're really in your head at that moment, it's fine to say, I have to admit, I'm a little nervous. I'm not usually the one up at the podium.
But I'm so honored that I was asked to present this to such an amazing visionary.
Like, use it because that will give you a chance to just get settled
and also make the audience on your side because if they're not actors,
and by the way, even if some of them are actors, they're just as afraid too.
I've done it a bunch of times.
I'm always nervous when I'm about to go out and read a teleprompter.
So I just think that that's a way that you can kind of get related
with the audience.
You might not need it. You might get out there and be feeling like, okay, I got this. But if you get
out there and you're feeling extra edgy, it might be a good idea. I would say definitely don't drink.
Some people think, oh, alcohol will loosen me up. That's a bad idea. No. Don't do that. No, no, no.
I was going to say, whatever whatever you do don't wing it but
it sounds like you've written down everything that you need to write down and you're pretty
much yeah yeah then then you're set i do as far as nerves go let use it like zach said that's what
i always do and sometimes the audience does find that endearing you know uh your nervous energy
uh is relatable yeah everybody feels it
you know yeah because everyone's everyone's been there everyone's thinking oh i'd be so nervous if
i was up there especially if you're in a room of people that aren't professional public speakers
right they'd think oh um she's brave she's she's doing this she's introducing john favreau like
this like visionary guy um joelle you have any thoughts on the matter?
You do some public speaking.
Yeah, I would say if you can,
I prefer to take 10 minutes before I'm going to go on and do some deep breathing before
and just really get centered and think about,
okay, this is what I'm going to say.
If I know my opening line,
usually once I'm past that, it's just, it's just happening and it's fine. Um, yeah, I would say just try to get away from
everybody and, and center and get steady. And then once you're out there and speaking, you're
like, Oh, this is much easier than I built it up in my mind to be. I find, I think people also
really relate to, you know, things like this is like, I, i i i just feel so honored um to be
able to do this and and and to give affirmation to someone who's who's changed my life and given
me an opportunity to work on on these legendary shows i mean i guess i'm segwaying now into what
you're saying which you've already worked on but but, but I just think, you know, people will relate to that.
I you know,
one of my first times ever doing any type of public speaking was when I was
younger, but in Hollywood, in front of a bunch of people was for Zach.
Actually, I had to, and you know,
I had to present him with a award for young Holly.
It was like the young Hollywood awards.
And I presented Zach and I had to write the speech myself did you prepare it oh i did prepare it i freaking i worked really
really hard on it too and it was almost like you know uh it was almost like an out-of-body
experience because once it started i would like joelle said said, I was in it. And then every, and then it was over and I was
like, what just happened? You know what I mean? And, uh, I did so well at the speech that they
invited me back the next year to host the award ceremony. And, but well, this time the stakes
were a lot higher. I wasn't just presenting anything to somebody who I loved already.
That's easy to do.
When you like somebody, it's easy to present an award.
Now Judd Apatow is in the audience.
Leslie Mann is receiving an award.
Chris Mintz-Plasse is receiving an award.
Paul Rudd is coming out.
Jonah Hill is coming out.
And it's like, this is just after 40-year-old virgin.
You want to talk about nerves.
Holy shit.
I think at one point in the
ceremony, I asked
Judd Apatow for a job.
I was like, yeah, it got that bad.
It got that bad, dude. It got that bad.
Donald's not great around celebrities.
I'm not. He panics. But he loves
attention.
That's the difference. I don't like to be on display.
I didn't even get married in front of people.
That's why it's tough for me.
I think it's a testament to your work.
I think you need to build yourself up by saying it is clearly a testament to your work.
It's such an honor.
What a cool thing.
There's a reason why they chose you to do this work.
How many people in your industry uh would would
love this honor and and and just put your shoulders back and go out with that confidence that that you
were chosen and um and and you're supposed to be there because you're a fucking badass and oh yeah
and i think it's really cool it's a moment that you'll remember for the rest of your life
regardless of how it goes even if but even if you're nervous, just say it.
People love that.
It's like, you know, you've been on sitcoms.
You say, well, Donald, what does the audience love most?
When you fuck up.
Fuck up.
They laugh with you.
If you're in a play, you know what the audience loves most?
When you fuck up.
They love it.
That's really good advice.
If you mess up, just laugh at yourself.
Just be like, oh, gosh, okay.
You've seen on award shows when people make a joke like teleprompter guy.
You got to go back because that's way too fast.
The audience cracks up.
I mean, people love that.
They're tired of the monotony of the normal.
They want to see something, you know, right.
The last thing they want is Jon Favreau is such an innovator.
And here's his award.
You know, if it's perfect, if it's perfect if it's perfect like that's
the one thing i hate i hate when people read the teleprompter and they stay exactly what with what
is asked for especially after a night with geniuses have come up on stage and improbbed
and made jokes and stuff that have killed and then you got the one person that comes out
and reads verbatim what the teleprompter says. Right.
The problem is with that is that's like the double black diamond version when you've got the confidence level, like you're going to riff off the teleprompter.
Because then you're nervous, like is the teleprompter guy or gal going to find where I want to go back in?
Right.
Like you've seen, you know, if you go to award shows like Donald and I have and Joelle has, you and Daniel, I don't know if you.
I don't know, Daniel.
We don't know about what you do.
But anyway, the point is you can see the teleprompter, right?
So if you got a funny comedian up there riffing, you can't help but look at the teleprompter
and go, none of that's in the teleprompter.
But you're wondering, you can see the thing moving back and forth, like the guy or gal
is going like, oh, when do you want to come back into what's written?
And that's always funny.
I remember when I was at the Emmmys i think amy poller was
doing that uh she was she was riffing and i was looking and i couldn't help but look back at the
prompter and be like yep none of that's in there so don't do that my recommendation is to not riff
yeah i almost wonder if i need to take some improv classes or something just in general
in my life to get over this feeling.
Because I feel like I'm quick-witted and I'm great with just a small group of friends.
But as soon as I'm like on a camera or in public, I can't do it.
That's a great idea.
I mean, it could be improv or public speaking or, you know, there's plenty of, you're in the right town for it.
There's plenty of workshops.
There's probably like intensives that are like one weekend or something.
So there's probably like intensives that are like one weekend or something.
Or improv, you'd have a blast doing that because that's really fun too.
But it sounds like if your fear is just being in your head in front of groups, of course there's classes you can take on that.
Probably online classes too if you don't want to go to a physical place.
If you don't want to go to a physical place. If you don't want to. It's probably like, what's that series?
The Master.
Masterclass.
Masterclass.
I bet you there's a public speaking one on that.
I've been taking some of those masterclasses.
Have you been?
I took the one on how to make a brisket.
I still suck at making brisket.
I didn't take the one on making a brisket.
That shit's the hardest meat to cook.
I was watching Ron Howard's actually,
because I was interested in,
he did one on filmmaking
and I thought it was interesting to watch it.
That's really weird.
A successful director,
but it's real.
I do it all the time.
A successful director watching another director's.
He's Ron Howard.
He's a living legend.
And I was interested in what his process was
and also how he would educate people.
I was curious, how do you explain directing?
I mean, I went to film school,
and I still wonder how you explain directing
because you can discuss movies
and you can discuss process and styles,
but it's really about doing it.
So how do you do a video online course
about directing a movie?
I was curious how they were going to attack that.
And it was interesting.
I hear that.
I'm going to tell you something right now.
The person who stole the book of Boba Fett season one,
Bryce Dallas Howard.
She stole it.
She stole.
She's amazing.
She stole the show with her directing.
Stole it.
Stunning.
Her process and just being around her, her energy, her directing. Stole it. Stunning. Her process and just being around her,
her energy,
you know,
her knowledge.
She's just,
she's a fantastic person.
Have you had a chance
to work with,
of course you have,
the legendary Debra Chow?
Yeah,
I know Debra well.
I love her.
She knows some things.
She knows some things.
Maria,
will you pitch me
as a director?
Tell Debra Chow
can vouch for me.
I'm sure she can tell
me directed garden state okay just tell them that they'll know i would love to direct a
mandalorian episode i i i really really would and then you would put me in it as some badass
hot shot who lives no i put you in as the real black stormtrooper some badass hot shot who lives that's right the og black they'd be like who are you a
black stormtrooper fool all right maria thank you for coming on and uh and everybody thank you for
uh for tuning in you're welcome you're welcome you're welcome as long as i have you here for
two seconds i just want to say give flow my. I did a movie with her called Fighting With My Family, and
I love her and adore her
and had such a great time working with her.
She's a wonderful human being,
and wait till you see
what a performance
she gives in our film, a good
person. She's just an extraordinary,
extraordinary talent.
Everything she does is gold.
Yeah, she's just, she's
magical. A kind human being. Yeah, she's magical.
A kind human being.
Yes, and normal and kind and sweet.
Grounded.
Donald, are you going to Josh Radin's concert tonight?
I am going to Josh Radin's concert tonight.
It's very late.
It's late.
It's like it starts at nine something.
At that point, I'm sleeping for about an hour already.
I know, but you're going to have to have a sugar-free Red Bull or something.
I might have a sugar-free Red Bull with some vodka in it.
You know what I mean? Daniel and Joelle, if you'd
like to go, it's at the El Rey.
Oh, the El Rey. I love the El Rey.
By the time this airs, it'll be too late for you
audience members, but...
When he said the El Rey, you know what I
immediately thought of? What?
I thought of the
Rialto from La La Land land is there a rialto is
there a rialto no right there's no rialto in la is there i don't think so i don't think so
but it sounds like the l ray sounded like the rialto to me so automatically i was like
city of stars okay are you shining just for me me? I'm worried the fans might be getting sick of us talking about La La Land.
City of stars.
I don't give a fuck.
Actually, Donald, tell them your Seth Green story.
That was funny.
My Seth Green story?
Which one?
The video you sent me of him sitting in a restaurant.
That was funny as shit.
Seth Green was sitting in a restaurant listening to somebody talk about
our podcast and how
we never talk about the show Scrubs.
And how much they love that.
And how much they love the fact that we just
sit and talk shit about
shit and then
rarely talk about Scrubs.
Seth Green took this video. He's not selling it right.
Seth Green made this video. He's like, they're behind me.
And these people
love the podcast.
And they're obsessed with it.
And their favorite part is how you barely talk about the show.
Anyway, we promised to talk about the show.
We love you all.
And we'll see you next time.
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Mm-hmm.
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