Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 802: My Last Words

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

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Listen and subscribe to the Martha Stewart Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody. Donald Faison, Joelle Monique, and DJ Daniel. How are you? Hey, Zach Graff. How are you doing? I'm fine. How you how are you bro I feel great listen our Super Bowl ad was a huge hit I think

Donald yeah monster hit I heard a lot of people watched it we feel great thank you everybody for watching it and listen I think if you listen to this podcast you know that Donald Faison and I love musicals.

We love singing and dancing. I don't think either one of us, when we were little kids, ever thought we'd get a chance to sing Grease with Travolta. So that was little Zach and little Donald were smiling ear to ear. Listen, I was nervous at first because I watched the whole Super Bowl and the ad didn't come on. You thought we weren't going to make the cut? I thought we, like last year, I was like, when is it going to come on? And then the two-minute warning hit.

We had the most insane placement. That is amazing. I got to tell you, I don't normally watch the game because I could honestly care less. But this year, because we had the spot and I actually watched the game and it was fucking incredible. It made me want to get into football. That was such a good game. If you want to get into football, I recommend fantasy football.

You not only would get into football, you will know everything about football because you will have to. That feels like double black diamond when I'm talking about a green circle. No, you get into the right fantasy football thing. All you got to do is just find a couple of names. Come on, everyone who's telling me that was a particularly amazing game. Yeah, but you said if you want to get into football, you want to watch it, right? All I'm saying is- I get it.

I truly watched the game, and I was so into it. It was such a good sporting contest. And then at the apex of the fucking thing, tied at the end, I was thinking the same thing. Like, fucking, did they cut our ad? What the fuck? And just at the fucking apex of the shit, they played our spot. Yeah, I'm sorry. I got excited.

All I heard was, I think I'm going to get into football. And my fucking heart skipped a beat. I could. I'm just saying I could. I was like, this is about to make our thruple go to the next level. I like Mahomes. I'm a Kansas City fan, I think, because of Mahomes. I just like him.

He's the best football player in the National Football League. He is. He's the best. He's the best, right? He's the best football player, yeah. Also, again, I have a question for you, and this is coming from someone who knows nothing about the sport. Daniel, do you follow football?

Not really. But my dad does. Joelle, do you follow football? I'll follow Chicago football until it's clear we're not doing anything this season, and then I tap out. Okay, I know very little. So you tapped out pretty early this season. And then I tap out. Okay. I know very little. So you tapped out pretty early this year.

Pretty freaking early, Donald. It felt to me, Donald, since you're the football expert on the podcast, that the game was moving so fast. My experience with football is that it feels slow and boring. Like this just never stopped. Right. I think that's everybody's. I think that's everybody's. If you're I think that's everybody's if you're not into

football or you did or you you don't watch football I think that's everybody's uh feeling of what football is but all you have to do is watch like you said one good game like that and you'll notice that there are a lot of great games in football during the season there are a lot of games like that it's rare that it's the Super Bowl where you get a good one. But during the season, with all of the teams that there are, you get games like this all the time where it's, you know, action-packed. Now, my friend told me, our friend, Kerry Brothers, who I was watching with, told me that it's like Moneyball, the movie Moneyball, in a sense that some of these young coaches are doing things because of stats and numbers that they never did before it's like going on like going on fourth

down i i don't i never again i don't watch much football but i always thought no one went on fourth down and they were going on fourth down like crazy now it's all analytics man like football is a great analytical sport because you can play it through and that's what fantasy football is you're playing numbers you know what i mean and what you think you know players will do based on what they've done in the past um and that's how coaches play football too you know what i mean you have you know uh players play it with their heart blood sweat and tears and stuff like that coaches who don't play football are playing the numbers and who they think has the best odds of beating this and what plays have the best odd of you know should we be in a nickel should we be

in a dime you know what i mean you know what i mean are we going to go in a shotgun right well i just saw that you know carrie was telling me they've done some things to make the game move faster they've done some things that are changing up the sport because to make it more exciting. I just saw in baseball, my brother, who's a baseball fanatic, told me that they've made the bases bigger to inspire stealing because stealing has become less popular. And they want to encourage stealing because it's exciting. Yeah, it is exciting. I mean, I don't know about that from like a stats standpoint. That may or may not be true.

I mean, I believe you. You're telling me that's probably true. Well, why would they make – my brother who's like obsessed with baseball told me this. Sure. Because I read in the news they made bases bigger. I mean, stealing is super exciting. Yeah, I don't know. All I know, I know analytics plays a big role in baseball as well.

You know what I mean? Moneyball, that was an amazing movie. If you haven't seen it, audience, you had me had me at brad pitt but it's also an incredible movie i don't know if analytics plays that big of a role in basketball but in baseball and in football daniel's nodding absolutely it totally does of course absolutely drawing fouls so you can take free throws that's like you know That's the gamesmanship of the NBA. It used to be if someone went up for a lefty... Right, but they're trying to eliminate that, though.

Yeah, but they're still figuring out ways around it. But what I'm saying is, yes, they're trying to eliminate it. Somebody like James Harden, who went to the line like 27 times, 28 times a night, is now going way less than that. So you're right. This is a change that's being made. But the question was,

are analytics applied to things like basketball? And the answer is certainly yes. By free, through free throws is what you're saying. Through free throws, through defensive choices.

Like there's all sorts of things that apply to like, you know, the gamesmanship that goes into being better at basketball. But I do appreciate when it was changed to being more than that.

Shaq Daddy always says, you know, analytics, shmanalytics. You know what I mean? I kind of agree when it comes to basketball, man. You can't. The creativity that comes in basketball is way different than the creativity in football and in baseball.

We'll have to have one of these coaches on in the near future to talk about how they use analytics. I would love to have Popovich. I would love to have Popovich. I would love to have Popovich. Popovich, Jason Kidd, Mark Jackson. I would love to have any of them on this show. The only one I've, a coach I've met, and I'm embarrassed, I forgot his name, so don't judge me, everyone, but the Clippers coach.

Wait, which one? They have so many of them. Tyronn Lue? Doc, Doc Rivers. He's not the Clippers coach anymore. He's the Philadelphia 76ers coach now. I've met him a few times and I have a friend who's friends

with him, so he's a chance we could get maybe. That would be amazing. What a legend. My uncle is a basketball coach. He's not coaching right now, but he was. Who's your uncle? His name is Jim O'Brien. He coached the 76ers. He coached the Boston Celtics. I know who Jim O'Brien is. Jim O'Brien is your uncle? Yeah, it's my uncle? His name is Jim O'Brien. He coached the 76ers. He coached the Boston Celtics. I know who Jim O'Brien is. Jim O'Brien is your uncle?

Yeah, it's my uncle. Wow. So Donald, he knows about analytics. Okay. Okay. I don't know if our audience, I just don't know if they want to go down after the show. If they want to go down on basketball wormhole. Right, right, right.

This might be enough for our audience. I do. I do. They might have said, hey guys, thanks for the sports talk. What else you got? Right. Thanks for the sports talk. When are you going to talk about scrubs?

We are going to talk about scrubs, but there's something else I want to talk about. I'm trying to think what it was. Oh, there's so many things I want to talk about. There's so many things to talk about. There's so many exciting things. Are you going to talk about The Last of Us? Daniel and Joel want to talk about that. I didn't watch the latest one of Last of Us.

So you're watching The Last of Us, Danil and Joel want to talk about that. I didn't watch the latest one of Last of Us. So you're watching the Last of Us now. I'm actually going, I'm obsessed with finishing The Boys because it's just incredible. I watched the Herogasm episode. Yes! That was the one I was alluding to last week. It's just such a fun show. The writing is so good.

The acting is so good. There's no reason, it doesn't make any sense that those leads have not been nominated for awards i know they don't know that these i know that they uh awards people stray away from action but the talent on this show is is just incredible agreed great show i'm really loving it um that's what i'm watching lately um i'm a little behind on last of us was it has it been good oh yeah i'm not watching i'm not what i haven't watched it you only missed one episode if you watch episode three episode four is the only other one that's out now donald did you well are you excited there's a marvel thing coming out here's something you'll

weigh in on are you excited for ant-man 3 well you know a former cast member of mine from well-known movie called clueless is the star of it yes so everybody loves paul rudd donald yes i was not invited to the premiere but i i appreciate from afar how well he's done. Paul, way to go, Ant-Man. Everyone else, Paul, are you excited about the movie? Doesn't look like it. Joelle? I saw it.

You saw it? Is it good? Okay, let's talk. You don't have to spoil anything. No, no, no, I'm not here to spoil. I'll give a two-second review, which is this. I know Joelle so well after 150 episodes of this show, she didn't like it. I'd say Marvel knows how to do action and comedy. We've done 150 episodes of this show and I know when Joelle doesn't like something. She did not like it.

But she's going to be so tactful. Watch. She's going to be like, look, everyone has the things they like. Listen, listen. The action and comedy is spectacular. Truly. It's so funny. It's one of the hardest i've laughed in an mcu movie in a minute uh i just think disney has to find a way to bring actual fear because that is how we empathize with characters and it's what i think really brings an audience into that's why thanos was so dope yeah and it's what makes i mean if you

look at the the last two the um infinity war and end game their fear all we're worried about iron man is peter gonna come back like there's a lot of you know they were really able to build in fear into those movies and since then i think all through phase four and now as we tiptoe into phase five that fear is gone i need to worry that someone's gonna die i need to really the stakes need to be beyond the world might end. But now it might be, but now that they've killed Iron Man and Captain America, it's so hard to develop that. Who are you going to fall in love with again? Peter Parker, you know, that can't last. So everybody's geared up and ready for that to happen. You know what

I mean? Yeah. But you've seen plenty of films where the stakes are just is this person gonna say i like you back is right you know am i gonna earn my parents trust or respect back like you don't have to have an end of the world scenario in order for us to really empathize with what a character is going through and i wish marvel would make smaller more emotionally impactful movies so that when we get to these big events, we're right along the edge with them. Okay, let me say this, Jo. Well, it took them 10 years to get to phase four, so everybody was really invested in those characters, right? Phase four and five seem like they've introduced way more characters than they did in the first three phases. Some might say too many.

You know what I mean? So it's like, who are we supposed to fall? You know what I mean? So it's like, who are we supposed to fall, you know what I mean? Who do you fall in love with? It's the thing they're going to have to figure out going forward. But I think it's why Werewolf by Night was such a success for me anyway. It's a small film. I love Werewolf by Night. That was dope. It's so good. I've watched it like three times.

They should do this. This is what I think they should do. Blade, Werewolf by Night, the dude from freaking The Eternals, who was about to pick up the sword yeah what's the name of that group that they have ghost rider midnight sons they need to do the freaking supernatural version of marvel here for it because look check this out blade was the number one movie until all of this stuff came around. Sure was. Blade was the number one before. And you have Mahershala frickin' Ali doing it now, so it's gonna be dope.

I still think they should let Wesley have some sort of shine in this bad boy because that boat has sailed. Has Wesley come back? Has Wesley come back? Yeah, he's been back. But look, let me tell you something right now, man. He carried that franchise for a really long time. Dude, Wesley

Snipes was the, what a comic book hero was until freaking feige took over of all i mean feige might even been a producer that as a matter of fact you know what i mean and feige turned captain america and iron man into superheroes but before that it was freaking blade that was the number one dude it was better than all the batman movies all of that shit what happened happened to Wesley Snipes? I'm getting loud again. I promised I wouldn't get loud. I'm sorry. Yeah, don't yell. I know Wesley Snipes had issues with paying his taxes,

but why did he disappear beyond that? Because he went to jail, bro. Oh, he went to jail for not paying his taxes. Yeah, man. Oh, you got to pay your taxes, Daniel. Eddie Murphy said that shit. Play the more you know music. You got to pay your taxes. I'm going to tell you something right now man i do believe that and i know that he can't he can't be blade anymore but i honestly believe that you are missing an opportunity if wesley snipes isn't

in some way kicking somebody is isn't kicking somebody's ass you like watching Wesley kick ass is what you're saying Wesley look if Harrison Ford can be in the Marvel Universe Denzel should be in the Marvel Universe all of these cats should be up in there man because what about Donald Faison

why isn't he up in the Marvel Universe I feel like they have a better shot than I do well listen we have a surprise for you Daniel will you let Kevin Feige into the chat he's here

he's here and he has something he wants to ask you Kevin anyway yo but sincerely like I think Denzel should be in the marvel universe i think and i also believe i feel like in all honesty i feel like you know um donald faze on should have no i'm just again no i feel like i feel like wesley snipes should also be on the marvel universe well there's your wesley snipes tirade everyone. Five, six, seven, eight.

Stories about a show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses In a Canada who love to hate I said here's a story That we all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald.

My last words, I got to tell you, Donald Faison, I think this is one of the best Scrubs episodes of the whole run. Yeah, I agree 100%. Hands down. Okay, but there's a problem with that. I'm just saying this is a top ten. A lot of our actors, no doubt, a lot of actors from the show aren't in right nobody's in it it's me and you uh carla has one appearance but no elliot no cox no kelso no janitor i'm sorry of all those people they're in nine of the top ten but i think this is a top tenner. I would go as far as to say top five.

And we owe it all, everyone, to the magnificent Glenn Turman. Yeah, absolutely. Who plays George. I don't know if Bill got the idea for Glenn, because I had directed Glenn in a pilot, a big pilot I directed, and he was one of the leads. And maybe that put him, and I told him, I'm sure Bill knew who Glenn Turman was,

but that may have put him in Bill's mind for this role. But man, did Glenn Turman, at the end, when he has those tears in his eyes, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it right now. Yeah, you know, so little known fact, Glenn told us while we were making this episode, I remember this episode, I remember making this episode and thinking this is going to be a great episode just because we got to witness what he did. Anyway, but while making it, he was like, because he found out I was a huge Star Wars

fan. He was like, well, you know I was supposed to be Han Solo. And I was like, what? He was like, yeah, it's in the books. You can look in the books and stuff like that it's true he was like but they knew that it was going to be a relationship with a white woman and that the times weren't ready for it and I was like holy shit he was also married to Aretha Franklin a lot of people don't know that i didn't know that either you know another sorry

off topic well a divergent topic is i just learned um that pacino was offered off the off the off the mega stardom of godfather one he was offered the han solo part and he turned it down and he read it and he was like what is this i don't know what the hell's going on. Yeah. Look at this. I was just, I just saw him at a Q and a, and he told that story. And, uh, and, uh,

it was, it was really funny hearing him tell how he just didn't understand what Lucas was going for at all. I just didn't get it. It's well, and you know, Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola are tightest can be like, yeah. And,

and, and this was right off And this was right off Godfather, where he was the hottest actor in town. And of course, as a lot of people know from the lore, the studio didn't want Pacino at all for the Godfather. They fought him and fought Coppola over and over and over again. In fact, I learned from this Q&A that Coppola moved up. You guys will love this story. He moved up the infamous scene where Michael Corleone shoots the police

captain and the other mobster in the restaurant where Michael finds the gun behind the toilet because the studio was so intent on firing Pacino that he said, you know, we're not supposed to shoot that scene for a month. We're shooting it next week because I got to give them the scene that's just going to blow them out of the water and shut them up and he did that they shot the scene he never heard from him again nice nice oh man anyway thanks coppola has had to do to make his movies great where they why do people constantly fight that i know i know i mean think about think about the movies he's made

okay that's the same thing with George Lucas though man the studio thought Star Wars was gonna be a piece of shit and look at where it's at now

yeah look at Mike it makes you think of Mike White the funniest part of the Golden Globes when he's all drunk on stage talking about White Lotus 2 pointing at the audience he mean like

you all passed you passed and you passed that shit was hilarious. All right. Let's focus on Scrubs, the TV show. So it was written by Asim Batra and directed by a young man named Bill Lawrence. Who crushed it.

Bill. Crushed it. Direction was incredible. Lighting was amazing. The look of the whole show. I mean, he really. It was a very special episode. You know, young man once told me, he said to me, you know, regardless of what happens,

you have your story to tell. You have something to say. And people are going to want to hear it eventually. And Bill, let me tell you something right now. You were saying something with this episode, bro. You really were, man. Like, you, I mean, you and Asim, you both captured something. Because, you know, it's rare that I get emotional watching something that I've been in.

But I was very proud to be a part of this episode. And to be on camera and in the same scenes with Glenn Turman. I'm telling you right now. Well, you too, Zach, no doubt. No, but I agree with you. And it's just really, it's one of those special ones, like the funeral with Where Do You Think We Are with Brendan. And it's just one of those ones that just, or My Old Lady,

which I think was 103 or something. It's just one of those special ones. It's like, which i think was 103 or something it's just one of those special ones it's like whoa this is how this is scrubs at its best it's so silly at certain times you know with the whole steak night song and all that stuff which we'll go through but then then you got glenn turman dying with his tears in his eyes and it's just fucking hell like the fact that this is done in 22 minutes and you've experienced all these emotions, it's just a high bar for what a great team can do in 22 minutes of TV. And I felt also very proud to be a part of it. Let's get into it.

Let's get into it. Okay, so we start with – Jordan at the computer. Jordan at the computer. Jordan at the computer. And Courtney's character, Dr. Maddox, really, she's a mix of being able to go friendly and soulless. She tells Jordan she looks old, which cuts right to her heart, because no one wants to hear that. Right. But this also is- Bob and I get told we look old all the time, which is-

I get I look tired a lot, which can be a bit- We understand that people grew up with us Looking young in our 20s But we don't want to hear that we look old We know No I don't want to hear that shit It doesn't feel good But you know I'm sure you'll continue

Because haters gonna hate right Taylor Taylor Swift Oh haters are gonna hate Haters are gonna hate By the way I love that Miley Cyrus song, Flowers. That's just a bop. I can buy myself flowers. And what's the SZA song you were singing that I like too?

Oh, freaking, I just killed my ex. Yeah. Da, da, da, da, da. I just killed my ex. I know this one. What a bad idea. I think it's the number two. I was listening to a Spotify charts list.

I think it was the number two song in the country. Check it out. The melody is amazing. Very hooky. Yeah. Okay. So then we have a fantasy where Dr. Maddox tries to kill a patient

because she's just so hardcore. She's worse than Kelso, it seems. But she has a way of turning on the super friendly because she's so beautiful and charming, but then she's just as cutthroat as Kelso. That was a pretty good scene with her choking out the... Yeah.

The freaking patient. With the pillow. With the pillow. With the pillow. This guy, why won't you die? Right. And then we have- Joe and Ed. Her name's not, what's her character name?

I call her Joe from Facts of Life, but Denise. Denise. Right. Denise just has no bedside manner. Still. And Ed is just winning everyone over he's jd kind of hates him because he's very charming and and he's getting catchphrases going and jd's trying to start rumors about him he says to turk i heard he smokes plants yeah ed has the ability to start his superpower is he can start trends quickly which brings deontay gordon who

was my stand-in throughout uh scrubs back into the episode this is his big episode this season yes so we say steak night we do our steak night steak night right right yes and then and all of a sudden ed comes by and turns our steak night he comes by. And turns our steak night cry. He goes, gravy, fellas. Right. Turns our steak night cry into a trending topic in the hospital. Yeah. And so what did he say, though?

It wasn't gravy. He goes, I think he copies it. He goes, steak night. And then he goes, gravy, fellas. No, he says to Deontayte may your onions always be such and such and may your mushrooms always be sauteed and your onions always grilled and then he goes and then he goes to then he goes to us and he goes gravy fellas when he's leaving and then i say cream spinach yo and you're like don't do that don't do that you know aziz man i, I really, I'm not going to lie, man.

If he would have stayed on the show, he would have boosted our freaking, our comedy in a lot of ways, man. Like he was, this is not stuff that was written. This is him riffing off the top, if I remember correctly. He was kind of like. Aziz wasn't in Nine, was he? No, he was smart. He got out. He saw the light at the end of the tunnel. No, but why did he only do three?

He must have had something else going on. Because he went on to do Parks and Rec. Yeah, you're right. Parks and Rec. Parks and Rec. Okay. But look, this is an Ask Bill thing, but I think he had the choice between doing that and Scrubs, and he was like, this shit's almost over.

Well, that makes sense. And also, he would have been an original cast member and I'm sure paid more money and all that stuff. Yeah. So then we see an administrative assistant that seemingly for no reason has the sexy saxophone music with the slow motion. It's so funny that it's always.

It's always that fucking sound, which sounds as, as, as like, it sounds like it should come with my, my, my mixer thing like this. Okay. okay this is what i don't understand you said the wind blows in her hair you didn't say anything about the light or the boobs like in this one she literally pushes the titties together and then we come back and i'm holding a hot dog yeah there's a couple things going on here most of the women who come through and do this are guest stars or Sarah or Krista, and they're having like a sexy entrance. But none of them push their boobs together. And this was not a guest star either. No, this was a model, I assume, who was hired to be a beautiful woman.

But she actually pushes her cleavage together. She puts a little sauce on it. Pushes it together to the right, you know. It was nice. Like it was, yeah, it was good. It was a moment for me. Yes. So she looked beautiful, but, and I'm like, why are they,

we know the audience knows this gag. Why are they doing this? And I went, oh, they're setting it up for the payoff later with the senior citizen woman doing it. Right. That's the only reason that's there. Because the audience knows the convention that we do in Scrubs. But they kind of, I think Bill felt like, oh, we need to remind them of this convention so we can make a joke off of it with the old lady later. Okay, I'm just going to say one thing.

Don't say anything you're going to regret. I'm not going to say anything I'm going to regret. But when the old lady did it, at the end, didn't you... No. Did you get movement? No. Did you shift? No.

Did you shift? But didn't you feel... But when the old lady did it, didn't you feel like... So here's how I look at it. As I've gotten older, my taste has gotten older, right? So if I'm Glenn's age in the bed, George's age in the bed... You're not George's age in the bed. You're not George's age.

If I am. Right. There was so much other, as he said, ass in the building. Right. What made him choose that? Well, everyone has their unique taste, Donald. I think as you get older, your taste goes up. I think that I believe that.

But it doesn't matter. To each their own. It could have been a male orderly, or it could have been jordan it could have been anyone but his thing his what got him shifting was that senior citizen with the gray hair and in the in the slow motion and the wind blowing and the wind blowing she didn't do the cleavage thing. No. She chose not to. I think she was in a patient gown. So what's the hot dog pen? You do a hot dog pen thing? So every time JD goes into this, Turk tries to take advantage of him losing focus.

Right. Not being present. Right. Him losing focus. Right, not being present. Right. And he thinks he's caught himself before he's gone too far, but Turk has already got him with the hot dog pencil. So JD has a pen or grabs a pen and it's really a hot dog

and he's trying to write with a hot dog. Yes, and then you call me honky face. Which is weird. That's weird, i know i don't know that's like out of nowhere i know i think honky um even though people don't use it anymore um was still funny to us in 2008. yeah but that's like out of nowhere that's just like out of nowhere it just came you probably improv did i imagine no i would never call you honky face on television like i would never just be like honky face what is it honky face but hearing you say it now still makes me giggle so i guess it worked so what i forgot about the famous steak night dance and song which i want you to know donald

and i made up on the spot both the spot, both the melody and the choreography. We made up on the spot. We didn't know that it would be sung by, by men and women across the globe to this day. That pose at the end. This isn't the origin of steak night, is it? It is.

This is the season eight is the origin of steak night. You guys have a steak night earlier. I want to say in season six, but we 6 I don't believe we've ever heard the song The song and dance Donald I remember on this day All it said was like You guys make up a song and a dance And we just literally

I'm pretty sure Bill was like No the song goes We should ask him No I can tell you It is the world's best meat We made that shit up goes we go we should ask him no I can tell you we made it up it is the world's best meat we made that shit up we made it up

steak night we gonna eat it right we didn't make that up that's freaking Eddie Murphy cause your daddy's an alcoholic he is alcoholic alcoholic wanna lick? He's an alcoholic. He is a-holic. A-alcoholic.

Want a lick? Psych? Psych. Because you are on the welfare. All right, all right. You can't afford it. You can't afford it. I'm having too much fun, Donald.

That's from Eddie Murphy's Delirious, everyone, if you're looking for a reference. Yeah, maybe we were subconsciously inspired by that but i mean it's not like it's a fancy melody or anything but i remember us going like what the fuck are we gonna do and we came up with the the sort of that dance and the hold at the end i don't mean that shit is so random but it's the faces and the commitment yeah like we were just on what i forgot is that we performed a number for the audience. We're out of breath.

What about the fact that I've forgotten that the room has to be clear for the dance to be performed. Because we had to check both ways to make sure no one's there. And then that poor nurse interrupts us to actually do our jobs and start an IV on someone and we scream at her.

When I'm doing the steak night, will you see me doing this? And then we say that we're going to finish it in the bathroom of the restaurant, meaning there's another verse. Oh my God. All right, we're going to take a break. And when we come back, we will talk about J.D. and Turk and George Glenn-Turman. We will be right back. When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful.

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Truck stop brothels run by a web of ex-cons. A Commonwealth attorney wasted on whiskey and power. Protection exchanged for cash and flesh. This is Hooker Game, criminals and libertines in the South. And I am your host, Dr. Lindsay Byron. Three years ago, I came across a goldmine of news clippings detailing a scandal that rocked my small southern hometown. As I flipped through each page, this forgotten story came back to life. I was told that it was just supposed to be a massage parlor.

The big shot in there was Barker. He beats me continuously. If you print anything that you hear in that grand jury, you will be put in jail. I never gave any massages. Listen to Hooker Gay, Criminals and Libertines in the South on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Spoke to be your show with Zach and Donald. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I got to tell you, man, you said it in the beginning. This is one of the best episodes.

I wrote that so many times in my notes. Like, just even for you and I, as far as J.Dd and turk goes this is up there with the jason bateman episode this is up there with the with the heather graham episode like this is a great buddy you know buddy episode and we have a few of them but for this is the first one of season eight one but this is a good one too. You know what I mean? Right. What I also like about it is there's so much of Scrubs is us in a heightened state. You know, it's a comedy. We're being broad. The fantasies are super broad.

I always love it when Scrubs drops in and we're just playing it completely real. And this episode has so much of that. You know, there's a lot of humor. Obviously, there's something as silly as the steak night dance and, and all the other stuff, but you know, you and I and, and, and, and Glenn are playing the stakes of his death so real. And it's just felt, it just felt so natural. I really think, and obviously Bill Lawrence is directing it, so it's going to be extra good. But I don't know.

I just love the three of us just sitting there and acting, and it didn't feel scripted. It felt so natural. Yeah. I loved him saying he was afraid and us being like, I mean, asking us if we were afraid of death and us being like the characters, Turk and JD, being like, nah, man, you know, I work at a hospital. It's kind of been, it's easy for me to think about death now because I see it so much. You know, it comes with the territory. I know everybody's going to die eventually. And then for them to have that 180 turn at the end of the show where they're like, no, dude, I'm terrified. I was bullshitting before.

I was just bullshitting. I'm scared of it all the time. You know, that was amazing. And then realizing, oh, we've taken it too far. And then having to rescue him or rescue his fears with what we think is after death. You know, there's so many great moments. I was going to say, it's a really nice bookend with My Old Lady, which is in, I think the third episode is season one,

where we're losing our first patient, right? And JD is literally being comforted by the woman dying, saying she's ready to go. And now, eight years later, you see us, we've experienced a lot of death. We're so cavalier about it that we're like, oh, it sucks. He seems like a nice man. Let's go to dinner, though. It isn't until we find out via Ted that he doesn't have any family.

He lied to us about having family to come visit him. That you see, first of all, what good men the two characters are, that they have the empathy to go, first of all, what good men the two characters are that they're, that they, that they have the empathy to go fuck, fuck steak night, dude, let's go be with this man. It's probably his last,

it's most likely his last night alive. And I don't know. It's just an interesting, there's interesting parallels back to my old lady, I think. Yeah, absolutely. I mean,

so he has, um, ischemic bowel disease, when when jd and turk look at the chart they know what that means and they they can see all his vitals and they know that he doesn't have long and um and then they know that it's probably they know that it's probably that night they know that's probably going to happen soon now the comic relief here is ted who um probably going to happen soon. Now, the comic relief here is Ted, who – it's very funny when Glenn says, don't worry, I have a young, handsome lawyer who's taking care of my will.

And Ted goes, oh, I thought it was me. And he rips up the document and he goes, Ted, I think he was talking about you. And he goes, oh, man, I wrote this on the typewriter. I'll be back in 11 hours. And then when they show him on the typewriter when we're talking to him and he's literally one button every three seconds. Like his typing in high school, I never took typing, but there were people that were like, I could type 27 words.

I wish I had. Don't you wish you had? A minute. Oh, my God. If you've got kids in high school, make sure they take typing because, listen, I wish I had. Don't you wish you had? A minute. Oh my god. If you got kids in high school, make sure they take typing because, listen. They will be able to text you so quick. I wish I took typing. Can you guys type without looking

at the screen? Yes. Without looking at the keyboard? Uh-huh. I never took that class. I wish I took it. I'm a writer. And I'm pretty quick. I'm pretty quick with my pecking. But man, I wish I took typing. And we have that Mavis beacon. Yeah.

Yeah. For some reason, I can't do my password. Regular typing to people, I can. The second I have to remember my password, I'm like, okay. Orange juice three. Obviously, I could do it now. I should probably do it now, but I don't know. I type pretty darn fast when I'm writing my scripts and stuff.

But whenever I see someone go without looking, I'm like, you motherfucker. I wish we could do that. Casey can do that shit. She can? Oh, my God. It's all those kids that took typing in high school. We learned so much bullshit in high school.

Like fucking proofs. I do not need proofs. Yo, you remember in The Color of Money where Tom Cruise is playing pool and he looks over his shoulder and taps the ball into the hole without looking, the eight ball into the hole. That's how Casey is with typing.

She'll be like, typing, typing, typing. I'll be like, Casey, can I ask you a question? And she'll look up at me and go, uh-huh, and be typing while she's looking at me. I'm so jealous. And I'll be like, is there any, can you tell me where the, where the. Ball gag,

ball gag, ball gag. Sure. I'm just going to use this as an example. Can you tell me where the ball gag is? And she'll be like. Oh my God. That story of you guys having sex last week was so funny.

Anyway, Dan, I'll play the more, you know, so parents of kids going into high school, I'm telling you, make them take typing. Dan play them more, you know, so parents of kids going into high school, I'm telling you, make them take typing. Dan,

the more, you know, thank you. Um, okay. So, oh, that was also funny when we,

so he, he wants a cigar and we're like, we can't, you can't have a cigar. It's going to blow up the whole ICU because of oxygen, but we can go get you a beer. So we go get him a beer. And that's when we run across Ted, who's trying to type again and it's the funniest part ted tells us that he doesn't

he's lying he doesn't have any family and but i laugh so hard when he types and he goes not g do you remember that like i remember old school typing and there was a there was a backspace button right it wouldn't it yeah you could go over the like you could but did you have to use whiteout or or did it no it would have the whiteout in if you had a a really nice typewriter it would have the whiteout in the tape right also so you can go back right and you could go back in and delete one letter yeah or more than that sometimes you could delete more and delete. One letter. Yeah, or more than that. Sometimes you could delete more than that.

But you would have to press backspace. Kids today will never know whiteout, Donald. And then to bold something, remember, you'd have to go all the way back and then type the word again. I never did that. And then go back and then type the word again to get that bold. I remember whiteout, man. Kids today, they'll never remember whiteout, man. Kids today, they'll never know whiteout, Donald.

Motherfucking kids barely know what pencils are. This is truth. No cap. No cap. Very unique. Oh, man. I remember back in the days like with the with the five inch floppy of it like not working and like you lost your whole fucking have you ever had that happen like oh my god like before autosave and before everything like old school

five inch floppy and like all of a sudden it's all gone like ms dos like it's all gone. Like, MS-DOS, like, it's all gone. And you're like, where is it? Where is it? It's gone. No. I remember floppy disks. I remember that shit. I remember the, what were the hard disks that came after floppy disks? That was three and a half inch floppy, right, Daniel? Yeah.

Zip drive. No, no, there was the hard ones. Before that, there was like the five and a half inch floppy that was actually floppy. Literally floppy, yeah. Oh, no, I don't. I'm literally only thinking of the hard ones. No, no, no. You don't even know this?

How old are you again? 33. Yeah, you're way too young to know. Look, Google image on your computer right now. I think it was called a five and a half inch floppy. Just floppy disks. Original floppy disk. I mean, like-

They still call the hard plastic ones floppy disks. Yeah, I was going to say. They weren't floppy. These were actually floppy disk i mean like they still call they still call the hard plastic ones floppy disk i think yeah they weren't say they weren't floppy these were actually floppy okay do you see that you see that little tape in the middle i'm still looking for it the thing in the middle we'll just take up original floppy disk it's i think it was like it was about this big now it's like this big and it has a circle in the middle yeah it has yeah i think i see what you're talking about they were actually physically floppy yes you could bend it you could bend it and everything you wouldn't want to bend it you'd be upset if somebody bent your floppy disk but you would put it in your drive and the circle you never seen this where everything yeah yeah the big black one

the big black one wow wow you guys never saw that that's crazy my only experience is the blue one and so was and so was the and so the one, the five and a half. That's a floppy disk too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's floppy. But the orange one, I'm not, I don't think we're talking about. The orange one was floppy. That was floppy.

I know, but Donald, I never, I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the black one. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about too. Okay, we'll share this picture on Twitter. My very first video games I ever played on a computer were word games so it'd be like you've entered a large room and you would type in like move towards the window and it would like in the beginning of freaking big where he's playing the game with the ice queen remember that but there's no remember the big there were no graphics which is telling them to take out the trash and he's

playing it one a second and he's trying to type it are there no graphics it's just words no there was there was graphics oh i'm talking about a game where you had a physical map that came with the game maybe but there was nothing on the screen you were just words and you'd be like move closer to the window it's like you have moved closer to the window like and that's your fortress i don't know what it was called okay but it ran on ms dos hell yeah um anyway i didn't play that game i know that and then i and then i graduated to um the the smaller plastic uh floppies which all the sierra games were on those yes hell yeah leisure suit larry in the Land of Lounge Lizards. That was one of my favorite games

I ever played when I was a kid. Me too. And then Leisure Suit Larry going to Cruise, the Cruise one. That was part two. My parents let me get one, two, and three.

I don't think our parents knew what they were, so we were allowed to play it. Well, yeah. They didn't play it. My parents weren't clocking what Leisure Suit Larry was. Yeah, no. They weren't paying attention to play it. Well, yeah. They didn't play it. My parents weren't clocking what leisure suit Larry was. Yeah, no. They weren't paying attention to that shit.

Was it inappropriate? Yeah, he's trying to lose his virginity. He's trying to get fucked. He's trying to have sex. Oh. I don't know. I'm not familiar. In the Land of Louds Lizards, he's in Vegas.

In the opening scene, in the opening part, if you can make it to the prostitute up on the next level with the prophylactic you had to go buy condoms like all that shit like if you didn't you died as soon as you left and when you had sex when you had sex it covered it would it would go it would have a black box that said censor on it but it would move the black box would move like you were fucking like you were fucking. Oh my God. I have it on my phone. You could probably, if you're listening and you're curious, I'm sure you could go on YouTube and find

a clip. No, you could find a game on your phone. I have it on my phone. Sierra still makes the game. I'm just saying if people wanted to see what we're talking about, just go on YouTube and look up the very first edition of Leisure Suit Larry. Leisure Suit Larry and the Land of Lounge Lizards. Go for yours. Wow. It's called Leisure Suit Larry and the Land of Lounge Lizards. Go for yours. It's called Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of Lounge Lizards.

You know what was crazy? It was trying to get past the test in the beginning. You know, the test that they would make you do. Oh, yeah, because they would give you a test to prove you were over 18. 18? That would be crazy. So they would ask you questions. I remember it was hard.

And you couldn't Google it, obviously, back in the day. Back in the day, you couldn't Google it. But they would ask you questions that theoretically only an 18-year-old would know. An 18-year-old or older, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Amazing. What is the G spot? And you'd be like, oh.

No, it wasn't like that. It was like, I forgot what it was. But they weren't easy questions. Some of it was based on how experienced you were. Sexually? Well, not just as a human being, though. You know what I mean? There was no way we could answer these questions.

I remember having to guess, and I would guess, and if I got it wrong, I would restart. Yeah, and then guess again. There was only a certain amount of questions, so you would just learn what the answers were. Right, and then eventually you just remember, oh, that's right. This one is B. Yeah.

This one's A. Roosevelt. That one's Roosevelt. Right. Do you remember that? I do. I forgot. And then I remember, I think we spoke about this before, but there was a hotline.

Because there's no way to Google cheat codes or any shit like that. So you would call on the phone, and God knows how much it was a hotline and and because there's no way to like google uh uh cheat codes or anything so you would call on the phone and god knows how much it was a minute right and i would feel so guilty because i was like i was gonna get in trouble my parents are gonna be like what the fuck is this on the phone bill but i would call and you would be like if you're stuck on level three plus three and you press three if you can't figure out how to buy the condoms press two and i mean you have to say prophylactics you had to spell prophylactics whatever it was you couldn't say condoms you had to spell prophylactics whatever it was and then it was a recording i remember no i'm saying on the phone line it was a recording and then they'd be like you need to ask the pimp

and i'd be like oh i didn't try to ask the pimp all right thank you and you'd hang up and and that was the clue that's what you got clues and then your parents would get a bill for like 30 because you did that yeah it's too funny all right yeah anyway jd was a mascot well hold on we go by we go by um beer condoms and a flare gun because because jd felt emasculated because, he only was going to buy one beer. And the guy was like, wow, big night. And to make up for it,

uh, to puff his chest out and feel more manly. JD chooses then to buy a six pack condoms and a flare gun, which all come into play at some point. And, um, and then in the, in the elevator,

well, we don't know in the elevator. elevator uh we don't know what happens in the bathroom when they finish the steak night song i was about to say are you implying that we just don't know what the second half of the steak night song is we never learned but bro when you're in the fucking elevator and you're and you're and you're pretending to fire flares and i go you're in the fucking elevator and you're pretending to fire flares, and I go, you're good at that. When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful. That's where The Bright Side comes in.

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So then we toss Glenn a beer and I say I'm allergic to barley. Which really is not the truth. Yeah, Turk says tell him the truth. And I say I don't like beer. I prefer appletinis. They make me feel fancy. The guys try to crack George's hard persona by asking him questions and stuff. And he's just giving them one word answers. And eventually they get to football, and George responds to football

because he was an old high school coach. Right. And Turk says, you know, I played football in high school. I was the safety. Yeah, I had a lot of fun doing it. Then he asks J.D., did you play football? Right. And J.D. says, no, I was the mascot.

For a girls volleyball team. Yes. And I wore. A bandana and a half shirt. And then at away games, I wore spurs. Which doesn't make sense. Which didn't make sense because we weren't the cowboys and then Glenn

trying to be nice says you must have felt very what did he say? He said you must have felt very beautiful or very pretty I said I felt beautiful something like that what about that fantasy what about the fantasy of what they're gonna do I said, I felt beautiful. Something like that. What about that fantasy?

What about the fantasy of what they're going to do with me when I die? What you're going to do with me when I die? I'm not there yet. Okay, sorry. Okay, I'm not there yet. Cougartown is formed, guys. Yeah, Cougartown is formed live on the air. They literally talk about being cougars and milfs. And then the very next year, the television show cougar town premieres

on abc yeah um that's true and bill always regretted the title it's always uh it always was a a a uh a thorn in his in his finger is that the expression throwing it in his side Is that the expression? In his side? Thorn in his side? What's the lion? What is the lion? Thorn in the paw.

Thorn in the paw. But I think people use a colloquial of like, you're a thorn in my side. But thorn in the paw is the legend. Okay. Well, either your paw or your side. Bill always regretted calling the show Cuckoo Town. He thought that it hurt the show because the show was better than the title. That's what he would say if he was here.

So we cut to a fantasy of what JD, what's going to happen when JD passes away, what the Turks are going to do. What the Turks? Yeah. And we assume because Turk is holding an urn on his lap. Yes, it's a mislead. It's a creative mislead from the director. That they're going to burn JD.

Oh, cremate, not burn. Sorry, they're going to cremate JD down to ashes and put him in an urn. Right. And so they're watching TV, and Turk has the urn on his lap. And Carla says, it's creeping me out a little bit. And you think that she's talking about the urn, but then he goes, what, that? And we cut to JD next to Rowdy stuffed like a dog. Yeah, on all fours.

On all fours. Presenting. Presenting very, very well, I might add. Yeah, on all fours. On all fours. Presenting. Presenting. Very well, I might add. Oh, my God. Is that too far? No. No.

I think I tried to stay as still as possible, but I think in post they really stilled me. They just froze you. Yeah, because it would have been impossible to look like a taxidermied human. But I don't think that's legal but it was no i don't i don't think that's legal either i don't think embalming did you notice at the end of the show um for the first time instead of like an extra scene they made it they showed like an outtake when you and i were just riffing on that. Did you see that? Yes, I did. Yes, I did. And then Bill added, you can't say that. You can't use that, guys.

Yeah. But it was funny. I like the idea of instead of doing a little scene like doing bloopers, I don't know if that became. Oh, I don't know what we did this year. I don't know, but that was just funny that it's a cool idea. Instead of doing a quick little scene under the credits do like a funny blooper i i everybody loves a blooper you know what everybody also loves

what there's a lesbian cloud oh yeah so we're reintroduced to the lesbian cloud here this is the second time that jd and turk's version of heaven is discussed it starts in a milkshake uh pool yes and then after the enjoying the milkshake pool they go over to a lesbian cloud where they could be smarter if it was a a bisexual female cloud because if they're if they're just they don't want they don't want to partake they just want to watch oh oh i feel like some of the lesbians would have a problem with that it's not their idea of heaven well this is our heaven joelle this is turk and jd i know you speak for the queer community but this is jd and turk's version of heaven turk and jd's version of heaven joelle okay we have similar versions of heaven so it's fine you JD's version of heaven, Joelle. Okay.

We have similar versions of heaven, so it's fine. You have similar versions of heaven? A milkshake pool and a lesbian cloud up there. Let's go. The milkshake cloud is right next to the milkshake pool. Right. The milkshake pool is right next to the lesbian cloud. Yeah.

Joelle's like, I get it. I deal. I'm here. All right. All right. So's like, I get it. I deal. I'm here. Alright. Alright, so, okay. JD hates Ed. We find out JD hates Ed. Well, Ed has got this whole new saying going. Ed is

so popular. JD likes to think he's the most popular one at the hospital, but Ed is really gaining traction with popularity. He trends really fast. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like trending now. Ed, whatever Ed says trends, and he's come up with a new thing trends really fast. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like trending now. Whatever Ed says trends. And he's come up with a new thing called recognize.

When you diss somebody and they burn you and they turn your diss into a burn. Yes. You must recognize. Right. And then we see he even got Ted doing it. Recognize! Yeah. Sam Lloyd.

Sam Lloyd, rest in peace. Oh, man, he did such a wonderful job in this episode, man. Well, I'm glad that he lives on through his humor because I have to say that re-watching this, that man makes me laugh every week. Yeah. And think of all the people that have seen this show and laughed. And so I'm happy that Sam has such a legacy because he doesn't have a lot of lines in every episode, but every single one of them makes you laugh.

Mm-hmm. I was so moved by Glenn's performance when he has those tears in his eyes and he says, I'll just go. I mean, that was just such beautiful, poetic acting. There's a lot that leads up to that. First of all- I'm jumping ahead. I'm sorry, but I had to say it. No, no, no, no.

You're not jumping ahead, but let's backtrack a little bit. We spend most of the episode in this one room with this man. And we get to know him. Within man. And we get to know him. Within 20 minutes, we get to know him. We find out things about JD and Turk that we didn't know. You know what I mean? We get, we get, it gets very intimate. And by the time it gets to long beard, stinky pants, that's when, that's when the emotion starts to kick in.

But the emotions kick in with the comedic start to a story that ends with, you know, JD saying, you know, he had, you know, explaining how this dude was, thought his father was such a great person, right? And you will be remembered. So you're not just gonna go you get everybody's gonna you know somebody out there's gonna remember you you will have impacted someone somewhere you know what i mean and that's when you know what i mean so then he asks the question well how's it gonna happen and then they explain it to him. Well, you're probably

going to get tired. You're probably, you know what I mean? Your organs will start to fail. And he's like, well, I feel pain. And I'm like, no, we'll manage any pain you have coming your way. And then you'll just go. And so when he says, so I'll just go, nah, all of the stuff that came before that, all the buildup from that scene, oh, it's earned, man. You know what I mean? And that moment, that's why it's so powerful. All of the stuff that we did in the beginning of this. You know, you say it's a testament to Bill's writing to it's a testament to bills writing to do it all in 22 minutes but they did it in 22 minutes we've gotten to the point where i'm fucking bawling on my couch watching this scene yeah this many years later this many

years later yeah you know what i mean and it opened up so many fucking things for me you know what i mean just about life and things that i've gone through since then you know what i mean and so and it all starts with long beard stinky pants that's the crazy thing well that's the genius of bill's writing and obviously you've seen batra and the whole team but um you know with jd's even jd's ramp into everything you just said is a very is a story about about his his dad um but it's but it's got silly stuff in it you know what you're saying with the stinky pants and everything but it's also so moving because it's a story about what a good man his father was um it's just just really great writing and then of course um the the performance i mean uh uh i think you and

i are good but but glenn is just fucking next level yeah and it's just so you just so um it's so moving and and it's so real you know it's a this show's a comedy but it's really genuinely seeing a wonderful actor get you into the zone of facing mortality. And how, how does it going to feel when I take my last breath? And that's when it gets really, you know,

when he's like, then they, we go into the montage and all of that stuff and their community, you know, they're having great conversations and, you know, laughing and everything like that. And then he says, I'm getting tired.

Well, and also, don't forget in there, there's also a moment that JD says, I think it would be great if your last memory is a good one. Right. If the very last thing that you think of is something good. And he's laughing. And he's laughing and he's he's laughing right before he says to us you know guys you know i'm getting a little tired and he and he asks the question you know oh yo take a nap take rest on man that's what they say and he's like well you be here when i wake up and they say yes knowing that he's probably not going to wake up. Yeah, that was beautifully done.

And then it cuts to the roof of the hospital where we're sitting in lawn chairs and Turk's drinking a beer. And then JD fires a flare from the flare gun they bought into the sky in George's honor. Yeah. Really good. Such a great episode. Really, really good. It's one of my favorites. Gets you in all the feels.

All the feels, man. I'm getting the feels now. Yes, I'm here. So here's some trivia I found on Scrubs Wiki. Neil Flynn, Ken Jenkins, Sarah Chalk, and John C. McGinley do not appear in this episode. No Elliot, Cox, Kelso, or Janitor. It says, this is Scrubs Wiki, I don't know if it's true, but it says an alleged stipulation for Scrubs

being picked up for season eight on ABC was the show needed to cut costs so every main actor is absent for three episodes except Zach Braff and Sarah Chalk, who only missed two episodes. You missed three episodes? I don't think that's true. I did.

I remember this. I remember when this happened. A lot of things happened this year. A lot of our pay went down and everything because of the hiatus that we had in between. I remember I was making way more money before we moved to ABC. And then when that happened, things changed. And I remember that.

I remember the show not having enough money to pay everybody for a certain amount of episodes. This is when catering changed. Do you remember this? Remember we used to have the truck and we would eat lunch outside and everything like that. Then it became a walk away after that. Oh, I don't remember that.

I don't remember that. Yeah, I mean, this was the beginning of the end. Even though this is one of the best seasons, so far, this was the beginning of the end. It says writer Asim Bacher won a Humanitas prize for this episode

Which is a very Esteemed writing award In the episode Stop Dragging My Heart Around Of Bill Lawrence's show Cougar Town This episode is running on a TV screen In the background So it's clear Bill was proud of this too

Yeah Carla only appears in the fantasy about stuffed JD. Turk and JD's plans for their first day in heaven echoes their plans from the episode My Way Home. When Turk and JD are talking to their patient, George Turk brings up the fact that he played football and that he played the position of safety. In the movie Remember the Titans, Donald Faison plays the running back, Petey Jones. Who gets moved to tight end. I don't think he said you were a safety. Did you say you were a safety?

I did. He gets moved to linebacker. Sorry. Yeah, you should probably know that. No, so I'm telling you. What's the safety? What does the safety do? It's like it's the dude that stops the wide receivers

from catching passes. You love a wide receiver. I love anyone that can receive something wide. You love receiving wide things. Your favorite thing is receiving wide things. I do love receiving wide. I like it when it's so wide that it doesn't fit through the door you can't even receive it

you love it when you can't even fully receive it I love it when it doesn't fit alright on that note we're talking about packages right what a great episode we're talking about wide packages I'm just making sure

we're talking about wide, big packages. When we're going to go to break and we come back, we are going to have a performance review for our Super Bowl commercial. To see how we did, we're going to check in and make sure we made the people that hired us happy. Donald and I want to hear if it was as big a hit as it was in our minds. We'll be right back. When you find that bright spot to help you get through

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I love that. Yes, 100%. I've never had a job like this. Do you have this at iHeart, a performance review? I actually don't, but I have had other jobs. There are jobs where you get a performance review. So we wanted to invite Brian Klugman, who you guys remember is our friend. He wrote that beautiful children's book.

He's also, we call him the Don Draper of the whole T-Mobile campaign because he's the creative who comes up with allper of of uh of the whole t-mobile campaign because he's the creative who can comes up with all the ideas he came up with the grease idea he came up with the one with bradley cooper we want to have brian back on and some folks uh from t-mobile to donald and i wanted a performance review how did we do let's let's assess how our commercial went over yes let's let us assess this we're this. We're needy mofos, and we want to know if we did well by them. And we know you guys want to know

how well we did also. Yeah, we think we did well. We know... Let's just get a performance review. Let's invite in Brian and the folks from T-Mobile. Here they come. Here they come. I'm going to get my thunderous applause button ready.

What's up, guys? Yeah, it's the thunderous applause. Brian Klugman. Brian Klugman, you handsome mofo. You know, you do get handsomer and handsomer every time I see you. And also those glasses, Donald. Brian is wearing hipster, very hipster glasses, audience. I could not pull those off.

Donald, I think maybe you could. I've never. Look at this. Hey, thunderous applause. Thunderous applause. We are so blessed to have our friends from T-Mobile and Brian Klugman here. Guys, we decided we wanted to. Donald and I are very needy, and we wanted to have a performance review

where you could tell us, as employees, as employees of how we did. Did everything go over well? Were you guys satisfied? We were just wondering because we haven't heard from you since the shoot. Yes. And, you know, are you happy? Yes. Did you want the critical feedback first or the constructive feedback or the good feedback?

No, no, no. Don't do anything critical with that. We will spiral out. We're very neurotic. Wow. What an amazing year again. You know, I think personally, and I think the stats back this up. This was the number one Super Bowl commercial of the year.

Really? It's literally the most viewed piece of content that t-mobile has ever created and i think you know when when peter and i look at these things there's kind of two main things that we look at one is do people remember the company and the brand that advertised and this spot in one of the main surveys that we looked at was not only in the top five, it was number one, number one spot in brand. And then the second big thing that we look at, which you guys like knocked it off the charts for us last year, because remember we had, you know, the spot last year, like this one talked about our broadband business. And we had, we were the fastest growing broadband company in America after that spot last year, we looked directly at the business results

and we saw all of our business metrics. I can't get into the specifics on those yet, but all of our business metrics off the charts after that spot ran. So we are really excited about how it went. Wow, that's so great. You guys did awesome. It's so, by the way, I want to introduce you guys. Sorry, this is Peter DeLuca and Mike Katz from T-Mobile.

And I mentioned if don draper were more handsome it would be brian klugman more handsome and more jewish yeah the jewish the jewish john the jewish don draper um mike that's so great to hear because you know donald and i our only metric was um was the views on youtube well that, that and then the comments in our Instagram. You know what I mean? Like comments like, well, I guess I'm switching. We love to hear that. But, you know, the thing about the spot is you brought great joy

to a lot of folks watching the Super Bowl this year. I mean, it was just so engaging and so fun. And reading all the comments, I would have to say you saw a lot of love from your fans out there. Yeah, it's interesting. The world is full of haters, right? We know that. And especially on the Internet, everyone is faceless and control. But there was just such singularity in the amount of love for this.

And I think, you know, I mean, you guys correct me if I'm wrong. I think we made it with that kind of joy and love i mean that was a pretty magical set to be a part of yeah yes well since day one and also and also the bradley cooper spot was was huge yeah i was just gonna say what a great campaign what a great super bowl campaign you know what i mean uh bradley cooper like that did astronomical numbers on YouTube as well, not only during the Super Bowl, but at the day after the Super Bowl. Can you tell us about that? Yeah. I mean, we, we were so proud of both of those spots. And I, and I think like Peter said,

like they did all of the things that great advertising should do. They, they sucked you in. They were fun and entertaining to watch. They felt unique. They didn't feel like anything else that ran on the Super Bowl that day. And when you left watching the spot, you knew exactly what company it was from and what they were talking for. And so many ads, I think, get that wrong. And these ones were awesome at getting it. This one and the one with Bradley Cooper. I will say to these guys on the phone who literally made this spot possible, Mike and Peter, who at the corporate level,

you don't always get partnerships of people who see creativity in this way and are willing to fight for that creativity. I think when we first showed the concept of you guys just singing to Peter, he said, let's go produce that right this second, regardless of what anyone else. I didn't even let him see it. I'm like, we're going to go make this happen. Yeah. I wanted to ask you, Brian,

because I think this will be interesting for our audience, for people out there who don't know. I'm assuming the average person doesn't know how a commercial gets chosen or selected by a big company like this. So can you just explain a little bit, like, how does the, how does the process work? And, and also, you know, for you guys, how many concepts do you look at? Like, how does, just give us a little layman's version of how the process works of picking a Superbowl commercial? Well, I can give it from our side, uh, even though we're all on the same side, but I mean, like, uh, I can take it so far until, uh, Peter and Mike step in um but you know andrew panay and i as you know panay is uh my partner and you know it's panay films is the company we work under and um we get together sometimes we bring in other creative people and we just kind of talk about we get what these guys

kind of tell us what we want to message we We knew we wanted to message home internet, right? T-Mobile home internet. So we start talking about ways that we can do it. Now we did it last year with you guys. So the question was like, how do we, do we do it again? Is that boring? The Superbowl has to be a surprise. It has to be an impact impactful.

So we knew we wanted to raise, raise the bar. We had to have a surprise. Zach, you and I actually talked about Grease offline beforehand. And then we started thinking, well, if you do Grease, what if the surprise is a new neighbor moves into the neighborhood and it's John Travolta? So we started. We wrote the lyrics. You guys came in and recorded some song, recorded it for us. you guys came in and recorded some song for recorded it for us and then this in addition to about you know six other seven other things we we took to these guys and showed them a

approach to all of them and this obviously was one they just gravitated to and a lot you know it's one more thing i'll say is between this and the bradley spot like they're kind of disparate they're different they're very different but i think what's really uniting T-Mobile and what these guys were responding to on this call is they were united by joy. They both had this like joyous factor. And so we took it to them. And then Peter, Mike, I'll let you guys take it from there. Cause that's where it kind of hands off to you guys. Well, you know, you know, and Brian's right. Like they bring, they brought six or seven different ideas to the table. And like literally when I saw the idea

about redoing Grease, like I literally was like, Brian, we got to just get this in pre-production. We're going to sell it through because it's going to be a Super Bowl spot. You could just feel it from the moment of watching the little trailer you did in performing the song for us and that when you did that, it was just we knew we knew we had a hit even before we ever

set out to actually record the spot. So it's kind of exciting. And then you have to weed through ideas because the core thing about it is. Super Bowl is, well, it's a place for big brands to show up. We still have to get core messages out there. And, you know, you've established a franchise with us, you know, from last year of our little cul-de-sac neighborhood and what better way to go back and, you know, really elevate the ideas to bring in a new neighbor. Like it was just a, it was just a solid concept. Did you guys think that it would, I mean,

did you have any idea that it would be this successful? I mean, I certainly didn't. I mean, I hoped we wanted to deliver for you guys again, but when Brian called me and told me what a hit it was, Donald and I were just thrilled. And I wondered if you guys had any, I know you trust Brian cause, cause he's really great at what he does, but did you have any clue that it would be this much of a success? I mean, when we saw it, we knew it was great. So we loved it. And I think honestly what was surprising to us, we knew the ad was great. But last year when we ran that spot, literally, like I said at the beginning, not very often in advertising do you see an immediate response to when you put a message out on TV, especially nowadays. A lot of times,

there's a delay and people need to see these things a few times before they take an action. We literally saw from the Super Bowl last year when we did that commercial, through the end of the year, an immediate spike in this broadband business. And one that was so significant that literally we did more broadband connections last year than every other broadband company in America combined. So it was kind of mind-blowing. And honestly, that was a big reason why we were excited to come. I mean, it shot up.

It was crazy. It was like you guys aired last year and the sales literally instantly. I mean, it wasn't like, oh, six months later. It was like an instant reaction. That's very rare in marketing. And it was a real testament also. Like, I mean, you guys haven't been together in a public forum in that way, I think, in a while. Other than America's favorite podcast, Brian.

Thank doctors, real friends that we're on right now. Obviously that. You realize, don't look at the charts. We are America's favorite podcast, Brian. You don't need to look at the charts to know that either. Just don't look. Well, when they saw you together is all I'm saying. Visually, Brian.

Yes, visually. In a visual medium, it was just incredible, man. I mean, people just love you guys. And, I mean, John has called so many times man i mean people just love you guys and and uh i mean john has called so many times and like i love those guys i want to work with those guys like i know this is so fun we did an interview with variety where john was like on the call and he said to the variety reporter he goes i really think the three of us should make like a real musical and i said i said to the journalist i sir, can that please be the headline of your

article? Can I just throw out a quick pitch while we're on? T-Mobile, the musical. You know what? Hold on. Klugman, you might be on to something, because I was going to ask that. Can T-Mobile make movies? Does it work

like that? Can that happen? Anything can happen in this day and age, Donald. There's all sorts of new frontiers. You are asking the right people. Peter, Mike, can T-Mobile make movies? Brian, bring us a script treatment. We should make a short, by the way. I directed a short.

Sorry to live pitch on the air, but I directed a short film for Adobe and it was really awesome. We made this really amazing short and it was just kind of like Adobe presents. And then it was, you know, the branding wasn't obvious. It was there. People knew Adobe made it, but we could do, we should do something like that. Like just like a T-Mobile short film, like, you know, like me and Donald on some adventure. Hey, Mike, I have a question for you because the timing of this spot could not have been more ideal. I don't normally watch the game, to be honest. I'm not a big sports guy, but I was fully watching this game. First of all, I'm told by people who love football that it

was an incredible game because I was on the edge of my seat. But when you pick a spot, do you pick a spot? Do they give you a spot or how or is it just a roll the dice that we ended up in that placement yeah no we we picked the spot and we were really i mean you got lucky we got so lucky there were so many things that came together that just really helped us it was a great matchup the super bowl that was the best ratings of the super bowl like in six years and it was like the third most watched super bowl ever so there you had a huge audience and then the freaking game was tied at the two minute warning so everybody was still watching so uh it's a risky spot it's a risk that's very risky to buy in a blowout that spot gets that spot nothing right yeah but we purposely when

we went in because we were like analyzing all the playoff games going into the super bowl and when we had to select and finally get the position we're like we believed it was going to be a good game going in which is why we said you know what roll the dice take the position and then the game just totally came that is amazing speaking of which i was about to say speaking of which the last time i saw you guys other than at the commercial was in vegas how'd you do yeah well i mean obviously if you need betting tips you want i go all in man and we and i think we won right story donald donald uh texted me donald was you know he's redoing his house a new house so he was didn't want to bet any money and he texted me. Donald was redoing his house, a new house, so he didn't want to bet any money. And he texts me. He's like, I'm not going to bet at all. I'm putting too much money into this house. I go, dude, you're in Vegas. Play with a couple thousand dollars. Have fun. And he goes,

you're right. Instantaneously, like two missipi later, I get a text from his wife. She goes, what are you doing? I i go what are you talking about i go he's alone in vegas let him gamble she goes there goes my new stove can we uh can we just nerd out for a second on on what it was like and how awesome it was to make a commercial with john travolta singing greece Oh, dude. The funniest was that I told Donald, just chill out. Don't get it all up in his face right away about anything, about questions, anecdotes.

Donald's like, you're right. We'll be cool. We'll be cool. Two seconds later, I look over. Donald's like, my favorite part about Face Off is when... I asked him everything, and he answered everything, too. He was very generous. Very generous, man.

But, you know, it's a dream come true to work with someone like John Travolta. I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't think it would come through advertising. You know, I thought maybe it would be through a movie or something like that. But this is probably one of the most unique experiences and awesome experiences ever because of how the response, you know, the response I get from my family, the response I get from friends, you know, I'm doing a sitcom right now. And I went into the writer's room and the writers at the day after the Super Bowl, and that's all they wanted to

talk about with me was the commercial and what it was like to work with John Travolta. And I was like, shit, you know, I knew, I mean, we can, this is my podcast, I'm allowed to curse. But anyway, I was like, you know, shit, John Travolta is, that's, I knew he was a big deal because I was a big fan. But the fact that the question, what was it like? You know, did he look you in the eyes? It was like, just everything. It was like. Well, we all have, you know, talk about longevity.

I mean, I used to watch fucking Welcome Back, Cotter. Right. I mean, look at this man's career and how epic it is. And then there's been so many chapters. And then the Quentin Tarantino with Pulp Fiction, just like a whole new. Yeah, it's constant, constant reinventions. And I was saying to John the other day, I was like, I think. I think this is like people forget how like, you know, he's played so many bad, tough guys and all that stuff as of late.

And like he's the I mean, so charming in this commercial and his smile and seeing him be as of late. And he's so charming in this commercial and his smile and seeing him be playful and fun. It's just like, this is a great... And he goes, that's closest to who I am and the stuff I like to do the most. Yeah, he loved it. He was having so much fun. Donald and I, we both love musicals.

Everyone listening to this podcast knows how much Donald and I love singing, dancing, musicals. And I literally went to theater camp And my friend Texted me after the ad He goes, wow, theater camp finally paid off Well listen, we want to thank you guys So much for coming on

We want to thank you for trusting us With the spot. But also, congratulations not just on the success of ours, but on the success of the Bradley Cooper one. And Brian, you're a legend, man. You're so talented. And thank you for making this. I can't take the credit.

We got to throw it to Panay, too, man. And, of course, your partner, Andrew Panay. Sorry, I can't just do it. But you guys are incredible, and I think we're just getting started, man. I think your idea, Zach, of making some short shorts. Let's do some musicals. Let's just go make a couple. I think that's like a great repetitive thing.

Brian, I think you can write some T-Mobile lyrics to Les Mis. I think that's super easy. All right, guys. Thank you super easy. All right, guys. Thank you so much. Thank you, guys. We love you guys. Goodbye, everyone. Love you guys.

Thank you so much. All right. So that's the show, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in. Please, please, please check out my trailer for A Good Person. Just go to YouTube and put in a good person trailer and you can see the trailer for my film that is coming to a theater near you on March 24th.

So please put it in your calendar now. Hey, you. Hey, me. I'm going to go see a good person on March 24th or 25th or 26th. What are you laughing? This is my sales pitch. Do you got a Thursday?

Is it a Thursday screening? No, I think it's- A midnight screening? I'm sure there's probably a midnight screening, but the release date is actually March 24th. So that weekend, you guys- So March 23rd. Take a date.

If you're not doing nothing at midnight. Yeah. Take a date. Bring your mom. Bring your sister. Bring your friends. Bring anybody. I hope you liked it.

I know you're going to love it. Donald, please count us out. Five, six, seven, eight. So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our Scrubb's Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald Mm-hmm Hi friends, I'm Danielle Robay And I'm Simone Boyce And we're here to introduce you to The Bright Side

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