Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 804: My Happy Place with John C. McGinley

Episode Date: March 7, 2023

On this week's episode, JD and Elliot rekindle their romantic relationship. In the real world. John C. McGinley joins us and tell us about his cold plung routine and how he roots for JD and Elliot. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How are you, you handsome devil? You know, I'm living the fucking dream. My house shit is... i'm learning that everybody has house issues yes they do it's like hollywood everybody got daddy issues everybody got house issues well listen renovating a house the most common thing i know a couple people going through this people it's so stressful and uh you're you're you're going through it well we're not renovating by choice though i mean like we kind of have to renovate. Like, gas lines were put in improperly.

Like, yo, whoever owned this place before us or whoever, I don't know, man. Like, this place was not taken care of. And I feel like Tom Hanks and my wife is Shelley Long. And this movie is the Money Pit. Money Pit. For those of you too young to know the reference, a classic Tom Hanks film, Money Pit. If you get a chance, see the movie. Well, you look handsome. That's all that matters, right?

I don't feel handsome right now. I feel worn. Right. Go on. I feel beaten. Go ahead. I feel distraught. Can i help you turn it around no you cannot the only thing that's going to help me turn it around is if we do a good freaking podcast we're gonna we're gonna and we bring in john freaking c mcginley the legend is here do you want to go right to bringing him in he's here we should shoot the shit with him so he doesn't sit in the green room for too long. All right, let's bring Johnny C. McGinley in, everyone.

America's favorite actor on the planet. He's coming in. Hello, boys and girls. Hey, handsome. Johnny C. There he is. There he is. Hi, Zachy.

Hi, Daniel. Good to see you again. How you doing, you handsome? Look how ripped he is. How are you? Hi, D- you hi d fizz d fizz i missed you the other night oh man i missed you the other night look how ripped he is donald man it just doesn't go away audience you can't see this but the man is more ripped than fucking ever it just doesn't go away he's like the rock he's like that i he's like an irish. He is strong. Dude, I have so many questions and so many things to say about this episode.

I can't even tell you. Well, we're going to get into it. We're going to get into it. Let's shoot the shit a little bit. But Johnny is a bliss. Johnny genuinely listens to the podcast, and he loves the podcast, and he texts me all these nice things. And, Johnny, just so we can follow up, because Johnny was at the event where Harrison Ford

was and, and, and Donald never got a chance to use what he had rehearsed. Uh, Johnny, right. He was never, he never got a chance to,

to, to, to, you heard him run drills with me and he never got a chance to do it. Donald, you, you doing that improv with Zachy, uh,

in the episode prior to this one, was comedy gold. Thank you. Zachy told me about it, and his pitch was really good. And then you two getting after it. And, Zachy, you doing Harrison's pretty good. That grumpily playing in the back of your voice. It's not too bad. Although someone told me I sound like Bane,

but it's somewhere between Bane and Harrison Ford. Right in there. Bane, but it's somewhere between Bane and Harrison Ford. Right in there. Bane was more like this, and you could really not understand what he was saying. Donald, you couldn't come, though. You didn't get... We had a blackout power outage in our neighborhood. And your kids weren't having it. I can't leave my kids with the babysitter.

My kids are very young. I can't leave my kids with the babysitter in a dark, cold house. Couldn't you have given them flashlights and said, Daddy wants to go talk to Harrison Ford? You know what? I could have, but I made an executive decision as a father. And instead of emotionally scarring my children for my own personal benefit, I decided to do the right thing like Spike Lee and stay home with them. Zachy also had a blackout. And he also had a house guest, Josh Radin, who I love. And they had a little bit of a tiff at the party because Zach trying to direct Josh back into his house as a guest was, it was pretty legendary.

It was completely dysfunctional. Johnny was privy to me and Josh arguing because my power was out too. And I was going to go home and he was like, well, I'm going to stay longer. And I was like, okay. It was like a couple's fight. And he's like, well, how am I going to get in? It was a couple's fight. And Johnny was in the middle.

It was literally like a comedy sketch. Johnny's sitting in the middle and Josh is like, how am I going to get in if the power's out? And I go, well, the gate probably should work. I think it's got a battery pack. And he's like, but what if it doesn't? I'm like, well, then come to the main door. Which door?

I go, then you know the door, the front door, and then put the code in. And I'm like, Johnny, this is the worst Airbnb guest I've ever had. And then Johnny was just cracking up. And picture John's head just like ping-ponging back and forth with me and Raiden. Me and Raiden got into this fight. And I'm like, just climb the fence. He's like, I'm not climbing the fucking fence in the dark.

And I go, Johnny would climb the fence. And Johnny nods. He goes, I would. I'd climb the fence. I'd climb the fence. I'd climb the fence. Yeah, he would. Those are two different house guests. Those are two different house guests. Johnny, I tried to shame him. I'm like, look at John. He's ripped. He'd climb the fence. He, he would. Those are two different house guests, though. Those are two different house guests. Johnny, I tried to shame him. I'm like, look at John.

He's ripped. He'd climb the fence. He's like, yeah, I'm not ripped like that. What's the code for the front door? Having you two in an argument made me happy. It made me happy. Okay, wait, hold up. Was fucking Harrison Ford there?

Obviously. Yeah. Obviously. Yeah. Obviously. Is it true that Jay-Z was there, John? No, I lied to you about Jay-Z. I spent all my time with Harrison. I don't know. No, I didn't see Jay-Z.

He wasn't there. No, I was fucking with him, John, and I told him that he missed a great party. Not only was Harrison there, but Jay-Z was there. First thing I said to Harrison, I said, Harrison, you're so good on Billy's show. And he goes, oh, is it Billy's show now? Yeah. I love people that take the piss out of Bill because very few people do. So I love people like Harrison that will be like, oh, it's your show.

Right. First of all, it was so great to see you man i really it made me so clear how much i missed you and how much i love you and how much i love chatting with you and i spent like a good chunk of time just cracking up with johnny and of course he was privy to me and josh raiden's couples fight and and uh but also we i wanted to talk to you about this cold plunge thing and tell our audience a little bit about it because Johnny is very into this whole sauna and cold plunge life. And I'm seeing it everywhere with so many people that I look up to,

whether they're super smart people with a podcast or they're very successful people. I know so many people at the top of their game who are doing this dopamine hit of going super hot and then ice cold and starting their day like that. And Johnny, you've been doing this forever. And I thought you could just tell our audience a little bit about it because I'm very interested in it. I am too. I really would like to know about this, Johnny, because as you know, I hate the cold, but if it's going to put longevity into my life and make me healthier, I really want to be a part of this.

All right, Johnny, go ahead. Tell us. So about 20 years ago, my friend and namer Laird Hamilton, who's a kind of a wealth of fitness and health information because people flock from around the planet to share their stuff with them. And one of the guys was Wim Hof, who's kind of the high priest of cold water plunges and all this and breathing. And so Wim spent a lot of time with this and then Laird kind of took what Wim had and put it on steroids. And what he had was this hot and cold as it pertains to your lymphatic system and as it affects inflammation. So your lymphatic system is something that circulates all the good stuff throughout

your body. And it usually takes six to 12 hours for that to go around, around all the good chemicals in your body. And this accelerates that to about an hour to go around, around all the good chemicals in your body. And this accelerates that to about an hour. And so you have all the good juice going around and you've accelerated that to an hour. And the other thing it does is it deals with inflammation. And since we all have inflammation, whether it's in your joints or organs or your brain, somewhere you have inflammation and this purports to help with inflammation. And those are the two big highlights. But also you get a giant dopamine hit, don't you? I mean, it doesn't it like, I don't know if it's endorphins or dopamine,

but like you feel fucking amazing. Right? Well, here's the thing. Once you get into wherever your sensitivities are, either the heat or the ice, your brain is telling the rest of your body that you're in a great deal of jeopardy. You're not, of course, you're just in a, you're in a steel tub with some ice in it, or you're in an, in a, in a hot, a hot house. Yeah. So you can open the door and leave. And so the, the hack is tricking your brain and shutting that off and letting your body know that it is okay. And so now all this inflammation is, is starting to subside

and your lymphatic system is, is really charged. And that's what you're perceiving as either dopamine or, or this high that you get afterwards, but it's just hacking the brain and telling it that it's not in fact in any jeopardy. It's fine. You're just, you're in an ice tub and everything's going to be okay. And how do you do this? How do you do this? Do you do it where you are in and then you're out and then you're in and is there, is it a session? Is it? Yeah, it's three rounds, right? I think it's three rounds. So it's three rounds.

We go 15 minutes in the, in the 100 nose breaths in the ice and then back into the heat. And so three rounds of that. But for you, Donald, we'd start at 40 nose breaths. Okay. And so that all your focus goes there instead of the panic that's going on in your chest. No, he was saying, and I've seen other people say this because because I've been like, once you click on this Instagram wormhole, you're going to see so many people doing this. Oh, it goes so deep.

No, but I'm really interested because- So am I, man. I've been checking this out also. Johnny told me that what happens is like you go into panic mode, right? Right. But then like your friend who's done it, like Johnny, would coach you like, calm down, you're just in full-on fight-or-flight mode. You're just in an ice tub.

You're not going to die. And then you focus on your breathing. And like if you can do that and train yourself, you can go shorter or longer and then develop this skill set, which is really powerful for a lot of people. And it's good for circulation. It's good for your heart. I think I told this story on the podcast. I'll tell it quickly if I've told this before. Joelle, remind me if I've told this.

But when we were doing the ocean swim thing in that episode where I'm like, I do the triathlon and I'm the only one in a, what do you call it, speedo? A speedo. Yeah, pick an apple, put it in your pocket. Pick an apple, put it in your pocket. Remember, I, put it in your pocket. Remember I was swimming when we shot that the water was really cold. It was like probably 45 degrees, but it was hot day. It was LA and, and, and they had a longboard. All the crew were in, who were in the water had, um, wetsuits on, but I had, they had a longboard for me to not be in the, there in a speedo for too long.

So we would get in and I would shoot, shoot, shoot then i go oh my god i need a break and i'd get on the longboard sun was beating down on me and then i get in shoot shoot shoot i was basically doing a modified version of what johnny's saying but i didn't know that i was doing anything special when we wrapped that i went back to my trailer and i don't remember it's something i remembered it was probably 16 years ago, I remember feeling such a high, a natural, full body mental high. Like I had like just serotonin flowing through my body. Because your organs were working at optimal level, man. That's why, man, with all of the junk that you had in your system, your lymphatic system is just speeding through, man. Do you know how good that feels? Do you know how good no inflammation feels, man? No inflammation feels amazing. I don't know. I just joints on your

bloodstream, on your system, all of that, man. That's why I'm so interested in this, man. I've been seeing a lot of people on Instagram doing it. I had a conversation with somebody last night about it and they were talking about how they got you know apparently the tub isn't the problem it's the freaking uh the system that you put into the tub that's expensive and then you can literally you can literally start with a with a plastic barrel i see people on instagram with a plastic barrel of ice water like right but you can get like like no you can go nuts this is a good gift for yourself if you're out there and you have the money to do it get yourself saying you don't i'm donald i hear

you and i'm saying there's like refrigerated tubs that are very expensive but you can literally start with a plastic barrel in fact if you watch ted lasso those soccer players are getting into fucking the recycling the trash cans yeah and and bill. And Bill and Jason put that in the show because when they went to research the real guys, that's what those guys are getting in, those fucking blue recycling things. Yeah. So you can literally do it with that.

I'm saying, but if you got the dough and you want to go, go. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but I think before one spends the dough, one should see if they can handle it in a plastic barrel. Right. No, I think you're going to be able to handle it. Listen. No, you're the dough, one should see if they can handle it in a plastic barrel. I think you're going to be able to handle it. You're the guy who goes and then spends 15 grand and goes like, I'm not doing that shit.

I am that guy, but I'd wind up doing it anyway. Donald, if you came out here, I'd walk you through it. Johnny, I'm going to. Can I come out? Let's do a session together. Can we convince my wife to do this bad boy too? Because I'm sure she. Can I come out? Let's do a session together. Can we convince my wife to do this bad boy too? Because I'm sure she would benefit from this. Yeah, and will she wear a bikini when she does it?

Listen, her nipples get so hard when it's cold. Wow. Not comfortable with this. Not comfortable with this. Oh, I'm sorry. Have you seen my wife? She's so hot. No, I'm comfortable with it. Listen, she's very hot. Johnny. I'm comfortable with it. Listen, she's very hot.

Johnny. I'm not talking about Casey's private parts. All right, we'll talk about Casey's private parts another time. Do you want Casey to come down here? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. I don't want that. I don't know.

Because she can talk about her nipples too. I'm sure she has no problem. No, no, no. I love it. Look at him squirm. I'm just saying when Casey joins us, she should probably wear a bikini. But Johnny, can we come? We'd love to come and do it.

Let's do a session together. I want to come down there. I'll be in there this afternoon. I was in this morning. I'll be in there this afternoon. The answer is yes. How's the golf simulator? Oh, dude.

You're just going to come out here and have a man vacation with me. I know. Johnny has the best house. There's a golf simulator. There's cold plunges. I just need to know, has your game elevated? Listen, I haven't played in over a year now. I know, but listening to you, you're Mr. Tennis now. I was playing a little tennis. Chris Crabb would have you believe that I play a lot of tennis, but I played like, listen, once you're in, tennis is one of those sports that you don't need, you can take a lot of time off, and when you come back,

if you're not out of shape or if you're still athletic, it's still there. That's not true. That's you. You happen to be a very, very athletic person. Donald's a really good athlete. Donald comes, there was a time when I was taking lessons like every week, and Donald was not there. He was doing and then he comes back we have the same teacher and he comes back

and like he's shitty for like the first 15 minutes and i'm like feeling so good because never am i better at a sport than donald and i was just like hitting really well and i was just like so happy like 16 minutes in he starts doing trick shots he He's like fully back. He's like doing through the leg shit. You know what the trick shots are to fucking just make it so that everybody runs. You know what I mean? Nobody likes that guy. That hitting back and forth to somebody is some bullshit, man. That's how you lose.

You're going to beat me on consistency all day long. So my competitive spirit gets in there, and now I'm freaking making it so that you can't be comfortable anymore. That's all a trick shot is. He puts like a ping pong spin on the ball, Johnny. Yeah, man. That's brutal. You got to do something to switch it up. Listen.

Like that thing. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I did that. Oh, my God, I did that one too. Donald has the ability to do, like, this is what he does. He's exactly right. He doesn't, he gives up on consistency. So he does he's exactly right he doesn't he doesn't he gives up on consistency so he does some like ping pong fucking spin on the ball and the ball

does something i've never seen a pro do do it it's just like good well donald got those good hands donald got the hands he got hand eye for cray cray that's what my brother says because my technique is horrible in baseball but i could can still hit the baseball. Yeah, because you've got great hands. Yeah. All right, listen, Johnny, I'm going to hit you up because I have a fear about this. And I felt like it was a sign from the universe when I talked to you about it the other day because I felt like I need someone. I need a mentor not to be scared. Zachy, I could take you through a session. It would be so comforting to you, and you would feel so accomplished when you do the three sessions and you get in and out of the ice three times. You will leave here. You will feel so rejuvenated, and you'll feel really proud of yourself, which is terrific.

Well, thank you. I totally want to do it, Johnny, and I'm going to take you up on that. Do you do it like every day, or is this everyday thing or is this a once a week thing? Like what's the criteria? I did it this morning after the pool workout and I'm going to go down and get Maxi and then I'm going to get home later tonight. Around six, I'll be back in there. So you do it quite a bit. You do two rounds a day.

Yeah. Sometimes more. I want to do it one. You can do as many times as you want. Is this true? It's a big, it's a big leap for me because I fucking hate cold water, but I really feel like it's a challenge for me.

It's like a life goal. I want to conquer this bullshit. I got a lot of things I want to accomplish in life. Well, we have like a great master here, a Yoda, if you will, Donald,

that can teach us to conquer our fear of sitting in ice water. I'm all for longevity if this helps. Yeah. Let's go. I don't know, D, if it helps with longevity as much as it helps with inflammation. Inflammation. Inflammation is a key to longevity. But, Johnny, it also helps with mental health.

I hear people talking about how it makes them. Yeah. I hear it. For me, that's the real attraction. Because you feel like you've accomplished something that was a goal and yeah i don't know how many goals we have all the time and and this is a tangible one that you could check off yeah donald yeah donald okay so we're going okay casey the bikini up oh my god i'm gonna bikini are up we going to bring the suntan oil. Yeah, something small.

Something like illegal in certain parts of Florida. I'm going to make sure it's up her ass. Dude. Different episode. All right. Count us in, Don. Let's do the show. Five, six, seven, eight.

Here's some stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate. I said here's some stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. All right, 804, everybody. This aired on January 13th, 09. That was 14 years ago.

Very wacky episode. Very funny. Lots of stuff with the legendary Johnny C. McGinley and Donald Faison. Yeah, together again. The team is together. Gee, it's good to be together again. Directed by Ken Winningham. I just can't imagine that we've

ever been gone. It's not started over. To Sammy, just a love letter to Sammy. Oh, he's so good in this, right? Absolute love letter. Sam has a lot to do in this one, and it's amazing how much they squeezed in this episode. There's so much.

Alright, well, let's just start off at the top um okay so you bopping down the hallway first of all yes this is something that somebody said to me once he was like uh he was like you guys are hilarious i was like why is that's like, because you guys are bopping down the hallway like you own the place. Like, if you watch any episode of Scrubs, the strut JD and Turk have when they're with the pimps and stuff like that. Yeah. I guess that continued on because we do that. Like every episode, there's us freaking walking around like this is my shit yeah i thought i thought to donald's point zacky i thought you were biting uh travolta in in saturday night fever when he's bringing the paint can down uh queen's boulevard such a great moment and john and john has that strut and you had john strut in this

which is a compliment by the way well it's a tough strut. It ain't easy. It is a tough strut. It ain't easy. Well, listen, J.D. has had seven and a half years of being tortured by the janitor. Oh, right. And for the first time in his whole medical career, he doesn't have to worry about him, he thinks. Right.

So he's feeling himself. A weight has been taken off his shoulders. That's really good. And he's like, I don weight has been taken off his shoulders. That's really good. He's like, I don't have to look around the corner anymore. That's really good. He's feeling himself. And as he says that, he runs into the Todd who knocks him on his ass.

He says, maybe I should look around the corner. It's disgusting. You don't want Rob on top of you. Plus, he goes in for a kiss. Well, we know that Todd is beyond bisexual. He goes in for a kiss well he's we we know that todd is he beyond bisexual he's beyond bisexual he's he's he's into everything anything and everything he's just sexual he's just sexual period yeah but it's not sexual what he does is not sexual it's disgusting it's not consensual for sure that's he says it's not consensual he sure he says it's not consensual he says I can feel Lil JD 5

and I go no thanks Todd and he goes but I can and I want my 5 and he goes in for a kiss that was so funny he goes but I can and i want my five okay so uh then we go through a sequence where uh jd and elliot are are flirting of course again and they're hanging out jd seems obsessed with oprah um so wait who makes the cereal box for him? Well, the cereal box is really... No, somebody made it so that when it opens up, it goes...

No, it's been rigged to have an Oprah voice by Whitney in Payroll, who we see later. She says, like, who wants some Oprah O's? But wait, did you infer that J.D., when he said he had it made, had also made the box or just the vocal mechanism? I thought he made the box also. Johnny, what did you think? I thought the writers got so drunk on the Oprah joke that I just went along with them.

They stumbled into it and they just wanted to squeeze every drop of water out of that joke. This must have been at the height of the time where Oprah was giving away stuff and yelling all the time. Right. No, I think Tracy Morgan did Oprah on 30 Rock. And we were walking. He was like, you know what I mean? The question was, what would Oprah do?

And he was dressed up as Oprah. And he went, what would i do but we were walking around doing oprah on set i think this joke comes from like us being obsessed with 30 no no i don't well perhaps but i just remember at the time oprah was always giving away stuff and she kind of leaned into her own joke she She was like, you get a car, you get a car, you get a car. Yeah. All right. Look under your seat.

Look under your seat. There's a car. Do you see the keys? Oprah, how did you get that car under my seat? I'm Oprah. Dude, that shit was, have you ever seen that? Have you ever seen that actual video of her telling the audience that they get a car? They lose their fucking mind.

And you get a car, And you get a car. And you get a car. And you. Everybody gets cars! The video of people, even when it wasn't cars, of the audience when Oprah would give shit away, they would lose their minds.

It would be like, you get lotion? And their heads are exploding. No! I can't even hear the word lotion now without thinking of Ted Levine telling the girl to put lotion on it in Silence of the Lambs. I can't even hear that word.

I can't hear the word. It puts the lotion. Put the lotion in the basket. Will it put the lotion in the basket? Ted is so good at that. It please places the lotion. I said put the fucking lotion in the basket? Ted is so good at that. It please places the lotion. I said put the fucking lotion in the basket. I watch all these movies because I put a TV in the sauna behind two pieces of plexiglass.

Because I'm such a news junkie that you can stay in the hothouse. I call it the hothouse. I had the production designer on scrubs, make this sign for me and says the hothouse and it's still out there. And I just watch all these movies. And I guess I must've watched Ted Levine the other day in, in silence of the lamps. Kind of random.

That's kind of a rig. Nice rig. You got over there. Daniel's been there by the lamps. Kind of random. That's kind of a nice rig you got over there. Thank you, Zach. Daniel's been there, by the way. Daniel helped me set up the golf club. Daniel got the whole tour. Daniel's pretty amazing, isn't it?

To me, it's a gorgeous spot. And the hothouse is dope. You have it set up very nicely. Daniel, I like that t-shirt. Shout out, Dove. Shout out to Z. It's a De La Soul song it's so easy

do you know where Judy is in this episode? shooting a movie? I know she's not we all missed episodes during this season because of budget they did this budget cutback remember we moved to ABC season 8 so everyone i think

um oh everyone takes including me uh takes a few off this season and uh and uh this is judy's turn to not be here because they're i immediately missed jude do you remember do you remember this though do you remember like i remember this after you remember, like, I remember this. After you guys tell me stuff, I remember it. Otherwise, I don't remember stuff. Well, the funniest joke in the whole episode happens very early on. And it's when. This joke is, this is a meme.

I've got people that do this as. What is the joke? The joke is that Turk is touching a patient and what do you call it? Just feeling his, his, an area of stomach. And he, and there's a fart noise and Turk says,

that's all right. It's perfectly normal, natural. And the patient says, that was you. And he goes, I know it was perfectly natural. Perfectly natural.

Dude. I hadn't seen that in a while and I had to pause the playback to laugh so hard it's a meme dude like there are people that are lip syncing this shit on TikTok and stuff right now oh really yeah I'll post it when that'll be my

that'll be my letterhead for this episode your performance of that joke it was so deadpan and funny. All right. So then we get into this main storyline between Dr. Cox and Turk, which is that Dr. Cox does not trust any surgeon. He calls them corpse carpenters. I have major questions about this. All right.

I want to hear you. Go ahead. Well, what are we – I don't know what we're doing. I mean, I feel like I'm on the set right now and I'm talking to the I don't know what we're doing. I mean, Cox is just going out of his mind here. They're just going to take they're just going to harvest organs and put them wherever they want. Yeah, that's that's illegal, man. Yeah, that's illegal, man.

I'm sure that's not. But he had decided that he had found a lucky solution to this kidney problem. Yeah, they put him on the donor list, and then they took what's their – they're on the donor list already. I understand all that, but then one party says, I don't want to participate. And so Cox and Turk go, well, we'll do it anyway. Yeah, pretty much what well no i think what wasn't it that they would do it simultaneously so that there was no there was no fear of them lose uh the person balking right right without their permission i just got that it was without permission i was under the impression i was under the impression that it was out there was what it was without their permission that's way too fucked up even because they never explained why they

didn't want to do it correct well no yeah that that was unclear i as i understood it the story point was that it involved one person going early and and doing it and then the right joel's nodding and the other person was nervous. Hey, we have no, I'm going to give a stranger my kidney. They never said that. But I have no guarantee that when you do yours,

you're going to give my husband yours. That's not the touch. They never explained this at all in the show. I agree. So it seemed, at first I was like,

what are they, fucking racist? Because the other camp is brown and they're not, you know what I mean? Like a lot of shit went through my head. I hear you.

And all of a sudden they were like, yo, we're just going to do it. I was like, this is highly illegal. I had to do the math. At some point in this is going to come and bite them in the ass. You're right. I had to do the math in my head and put together the missing pieces. But yeah, there's a missing story beat for the audience there. We're going to take a break.

And when we come back, guess what's going to happen? We're going to talk more about this bizarre issue about Cox not trusting Turk. We'll be right back. That's bringing you a daily dose of joy. I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce. Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters. We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy. But the Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun,

to learn something new and get into some friendly debates. That's right. Join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice, or figuring out how to navigate life's transitions, we'll talk through it all together. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast.

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Listen and subscribe to the Martha Stewart podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I used to have so many men. How this beguiling woman in her 50s She looked like a million bucks. with zero qualifications She had a Harvard plaque. tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents. She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway.

Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion. That this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About six million. Approximately 11 million dollars. Nearly 10 million dollars was all gone. Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry. She would probably have sex with one of her clients.

Hide your money in your old Richmond because she is on the prowl. Listen to Queen of the Con, Season 5, The Athlete Whisperer, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with the legendary Johnny C. McGinley, who says at the end of the movie Seven,

somebody call somebody. That's right. That's right. Good year. amazing fucking movie amazing part can i tell no disrespect to the farting uh by defiz but i and i what i totally obviously forget everything but i i didn't remember uh jimmy the overly touch touchy orderly uh i was that was laugh out loud yeah that shit was the funniest shit. Listen, Terrence. Did you do that in 2023? No, he would be fired again.

He would get fired right away. Well, you could do it. It would just be- No, no. Not- Okay. That's a fight. That's a lot of-

Because somebody's going to be like, yo, get the fuck off. Like even freaking Ted says, dude, I do not like this. And he's still hugging him. Ted says it. He's still hugging him. It was so funny though, Terrence. If you were to still be hugging, the minute he says, dude, I do not like this. And he's still hugging him. I know Ted says it. He's still hugging him. It was so funny though, Terrence.

If you were to still be hugging, the minute he says, I don't like to stop, and you're like, oh, and then you grab his face and walk off. Did you see the man's face? Just fucking straight up HR. Listen, I said to the motherfucker, I did not like it. And you know what he did?

He kept rubbing and then he grabbed my face. He grabbed my motherfucking face now y'all need to come down here and fire this motherfucker right now did you uh i laughed though johnny do you see the blooper at the end where we start laughing hilarious hilarious there had to be there had to be a thousand feet of bloopers with you two well obviously he was just making the shit up and he's taron's hilarious and an improv guy and he was just riffing this weird shit and that actor is great I just remember laughing so hard with him

yeah is he a friend of Neal's or is he somebody you know from around he's gone on to be on Saturday Night Live and oh that guy's talented yeah he went on after this show he went on to become a where did he go after SNL I don't know where he talented yeah yeah he's he went on after this show he went on to become a

where'd he go after snl i don't know where he is currently but he's fucked and hilarious he did broadway for a bit he's made a couple of movies he's in he never breaks when he's when he's overly touching you and sammy doesn't he never breaks and some of the yeah you know a lot of the stuff that he did on scrubs he took with him to sat Night Live, like his Brad Pitt impersonation. You know how we got to see that early on? That goes with him to SNL. He was on SNL for a pretty long time, too. Him, Keenan, Bobby Moynihan. There's a few of them. They were all click. They've gone on to do other things. Keenan's still on. On the Kelso storyline, Kelso says, quote, I'm like Norm in this bitch as he walks into the coffee box because he's still hanging out at the hospital's coffee box.

And he's sort of shamed by everyone. Well, he's not shamed by everyone well he's not shamed by everyone he's only shamed by the by by ted everyone just wants an explanation like look it really does seem like everybody's like you can they laugh at his jokes and everything still right so i don't think everybody i don't think everybody wants him gone they just want an explanation on why he's still there well ted finally hits him up with don't you have anything better to do right and kelso's embarrassed uh he says that he's been planning to take enid to wine country um but that's just because she wines wherever he takes her

and uh but he's been embarrassed and so he covers and says that he's going to be leaving and going on a trip with Enid. JD references the score sting. He says whenever anyone leaves, he hears, which is very meta, because then Elliot says, I'm going to leave, and we hear the score go. We're forgetting something. What is it, my friend? The jan janitor's back the janitor is back and he hasn't been rehired back he's just come back right this is they introduced the janitor and jimmy at the exact same time and i feel like they cut because this is right before we cut into

the show uh this is the cold open they cut jimmy putting his arm around the janitor it looks like it looks like because it looks like his hand is coming up to touch him neil was probably like i'm not doing that yeah don't touch i feel like you you guys touched on it last uh episode of the podcast and in this one i could feel it tangibly that i feel like the writer's room and Bill just kept putting more slack in the leash for Neil by season eight. They were like, just let Neil think of something. Yeah. Nothing we're going to come up with is going to be as funny

as what comes out of his head. So Neil will say something here. And he damn sure does. Yeah, dude. I'm still thinking about last week. Johnny! Johnny! Johnny! Johnny!ny like you just know so i passed turk with elliot and i say i can feel when turk is sad it's like a a wave of heat turks turks distraught because he knows cox doesn't trust him right he doesn't like

that no and he's really been colleagues for a while. Yeah, he feels disrespected and he feels like he's being second-guessed and he doesn't understand it. Don't you think it's a slippery slope when you put current pop culture jokes into shows

when you reference The Hills and then X years later I wonder if anybody knows what The Hills is. Yeah, it's not funny anymore. The Hills was a reality show. No, I know what it was. Like a pseudo-reality show, right, Joel? It was scripted, but it was supposed to be reality.

He's right. You listen to a lot of the old rap songs from the 90s. Well, not the 90ss from the early 2000s and stuff like that and it was a lot of jokes about you know things that don't even exist anymore and and i just think it's windows excel and stuff like that like no no not a slide to jay-z but jay-z had a lot of pop culture lyrics back in the day and it's not like he's not the best rapper still, best rapper alive still,

but some of those things don't age as well. Who's the best rapper alive now, Donald? Jay-Z. Do you like Drake? I do like Drake. I think, I'm not saying Jay-Z's the best rapper, period, but he is the best rapper alive. Daniel, who, but he is the best rapper alive. Daniel, who do you think is the best rapper alive?

Oh, man. I don't know if I'm qualified to have an opinion on this one. Why not? You're a DJ. You're a DJ, Daniel. I just don't listen to enough contemporary hip hop right now that I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of really talented people. Like, Smino?

Smino is really good. Look, I don't listen to enough contemporary hip-hop either, but numbers don't lie. You know what I mean? I think West Side Gun is a great MC. Joelle? I'm really into Mick Jenkins. I'll put Mick Jenkins as my top rapper.

Mick Jenkins also rules. I was in the gym the other day, and I heard the lyric, it's a rollie, not a stopwatch. Who's that? That's freaking Drake. Shit don't ever stop. It's a rollie, not a stopwatch. It's a rollie, not a a stop watch i just hit the switch you're looking tight and nice on saturday night thank you i'm trying to look

like you he's he's very svelte right now i'm working hard at it tight and nice i was looking at you like a man looking at a man the way a man we were talking about we were talking about brett goldstein johnny and i were talking Goldstein. And just as I touched his abdomen, I felt his abs. Brett Goldstein has ripped fucking abs. He's fucking Hercules in the Marvel Universe. Every time I break up Hercules, he's either doing a bit or so into his NDA that he won't talk about it. He's in his NDA. Don't fucking do it.

Just don't bring it up. No, I go, why are you so fucking ripped right now? Is it because of Hercules? And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, man. He's got like. Yeah, yeah. Ladies, Brett Goldstein.

I know a lot of you have crushes on him. Well, I'm here to tell you, he's got abs. He's got Hercules abs. He's working hard, man. I don't know what it's for, but he's got abs he's got hercules abs he's working hard man i don't know what it's for but he's working hard listen i know a lot of shit about a lot of shit and i'm not gonna talk shit about anything that sounds like a rap i know a lot of shit listen i've been running into people and i've i've heard some things about people and they doing their thing and i just want you to know without saying your name i'm so proud of all of y'all. How about that?

That could apply to anyone listening, but thank you, Donald, for saying something so- Absolutely, you're supposed to. But they know who they are. They know, and check this out, check this out. Some of them don't even know that I know, but trust me, I know. All right.

Well, the only clue I have to what the fuck you're talking about is that it came off of Brett Goldstein's abs. Let's get back to the TV show Scrubs, everybody. Scrubs. So Cox actually admits that he thinks Turk is the best surgeon in the hospital. But he's full of shit. He's just doing that to pacify the.

No, I disagree. I think he really does. But he's saying, I don't care if you're the best. I'm still going to look out for my patients. You know, for me, I know you guys have issues with this, but I thought it was showing, look, Cox is the best doctor in the hospital and he does not care if it's the best surgeon in the hospital. He's going to be there and eavesdrop and make sure he does the right thing that's how much that's the level of how much cox cares about these patients he's going to micromanage every single fucking thing that happens to them i think i think what's happening is he's just been given a shit ton of responsibility still like before it's it's he's back in the same situation that he was in uh before uh and yeah okay i will say that he wants the best for his patients but I don't think he thinks Turk is the best

he admits that Todd is the best but Todd's bedside manner is shit oh is that what he said I thought he said that Turk was the best and then he said look at your fellow you know yeah because he's got a comparison of is like the best

actor on the hills Which really took me out Yeah That's where the hills comes up He said it's like asking who's the best actor on the hills Well it's clear It's Misha Barton When the hills was on did people know

That it was scripted Yes and no It's kind of like WWF Or what like ww uh f or what's it called wwe now where it's like wait are you telling me that the hills was scripted yeah it's like wwe and that in that like the idea of what's going to happen in this scene is are you going to tell me next that freaking newlyweds was scripted i don't know what you mean by Newlyweds. Oh shit, it's older than you? You mean the Newlywed game? No, Newlyweds

the TV show with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey. Oh. I love all my life, Casey. Oh, sorry. Well, was that scripted? The number one freaking reality show of the time? Right, but was that scripted in a sense that they would say like... Same shit.

You guys talk about how you're freaking hey, I need to get you three together. I thought it was really interesting when the writers, when we joined, remember we had to join the writers when they went out on the writer's strike and we all wanted Universal to march in line with them with placards.

And that's when it was exposed that there was 14 writers on survivor and there was 14 writers on every single one of these reality shows yeah because they were all on the picket line which was an aha moment for me yeah i've i've casey was the one that really explained it to me she was like it's not that it's like somebody's sitting there they come up with scenarios and they say this is what the scenario is right play it out that must be the kardashian model right like that's every model that's every model for every reality you're mad in so and so yeah right to the challenge yeah you're mad at so and so and i need a shot of you

talking shit about them go right these motherfuckers and and this is another way to do it we're gonna get you all wasted out of your mind too so your emotions really fly that's like the bachelor and stuff oh my gosh that's why bachelor in paradise is the best show ever it's like it's like abc's version of porn man so oh my gosh you watch that shit are you kidding me it's the best it is the best hell yeah watch it every week i never they get these guys plastered and say now have at it they hook up oh my god did they they show them like this somebody will be like abc it can't be that fucking risque oh my- Somebody will be like- It's ABC. It can't be that fucking risque. Oh my gosh. Somebody will be like, this is how crazy it is. Somebody will be like, listen, while I'm on this island, I'm just thinking about, it's

just you and me and that's it. Okay. Let's just make sure that it's you and me. And the other person will be like, okay, while we're on this island, it's you and me and nobody else. We're going to do all of the things that we, we're going to be in love. you and me and nobody else. We're going to do all of the things that we,

we're going to be in love. The second somebody hotter than the person that they're talking to walks in, the person is like, I know we made this deal, but I'm a go on this date. Okay. Every time. Like this shit is like every time. It never fails,

man. This shit is so funny. It's so hilarious. And then somebody mopes around this beautiful desert island by themselves drunk out of their mind in their feelings because because they were stupid enough to trust somebody who went on television to meet the love of their life i haven't watched any shit like that in so long i i oh it's the best dude it's the best well dude. It's the best.

Well, at least you found something that you and Casey will watch together. She's the one that put me on to this shit. I know. This was one of those things where I was like, I'm not watching this shit. Get the fuck out of here. And I sat in the same room and just listened for like 20 minutes. And then afterwards, I was like, we got to watch this again next week. Like there was this one dude on the show named Jordan.

He was the best thing that ever happened. And he can't ever be, like these people find love and then you look them up and they're no longer together. Some people work out. I love the show. When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful. That's where The Bright Side comes in.

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Well, you know what happens? This used to happen with Broadway musicals. When great actors tell me the story, either the libretto or like Donald just did with this show, and then I watch it, it's never as good as when the great actor told me about it. Right. Well, that's obviously the truth. Listen, they blur out the thong so you don't get to see the ass. And no booty on TV. No booty on ABC. Someone should do this fully X version of this. Oh, I'm sure they have it on Playboy.

That's kind of what Love Island is on Netflix. It's Love Island? It's a little bit more... I mean, the next level is someone's just going to make one that's like, they're just really fucking and you're watching. Sponsored by OnlyFans. Yeah, you got to find a way to, if you're going to do that,

you got to find a way to make it so it doesn't feel too pornish. You know what I mean? I know, but don't you think it's headed that way? They're walking right up to the line. They're walking right up to the line. They know that there's an audience for it. Just no one's cracked out how to do it yet. Yeah, because the minute you start talking about we're gonna have them fuck on live television

or we're gonna have them fuck or something like that everybody's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa i feel uncomfortable i'm uncomfortable watching i know but that's just moving the what do they call that everybody is not the overton they all love to watch the overton window that's like the like the how do you explain the overton window daniel i mean it's just like what people you know decide is appropriate here i'll look at the definition yeah it's like the it's like the, like the, how do you explain the Overton window, Daniel? I mean, it's just like what people, you know, decide is appropriate. Here, I'll look up the definition. Yeah. It's like the, it's like what people decide is appropriate. Now, obviously that slides, that slides.

Let me ask you a question. If it's dead even, one half says, I don't find that's appropriate. And the other half says, I find that's appropriate. What's the middle then? They start airing it. That's not what we're talking about. That's not what we're talking about that's what we're talking about a poll would never work in this case because people are going to say what they want you to what they think is acceptable within the overton window to say right but exactly that's my point but once it gets onto a channel whether it be um you know however it would get on probably the internet i assume first then all of a sudden the overton window slides and people go, this is acceptable.

Oh, shit. Are you watching that new reality show where they actually fuck? It's insane. Exactly. What's the actual definition, Daniel, for our audience? It is exactly that. The spectrum of ideas on public policy and social issues

considered acceptable by the general public. But you can't know if it's acceptable or not until it's actually tried out, though. Of course. But they slide. They have to happen. And then they're kind of like, you could look at it with music, too. Like what used to be considered very experimental kinds of music are now just pop music.

Well, the ultimate, here's a very clear example. Recreational marijuana being legal. Say that. The Overton window has just completely slid. Another perfect example example tv in the 80s and 90s tv now yeah the things you can get away with on television on network television compared to the things that you can get away with now are way different i see what you're saying that is the venue for which the overton window has adjusted yeah yes the venue for which the Overton window has adjusted. Daniel, you're so articulate.

By the way, did you see Michael B. Jordan in that Calvin Klein outfit? Jesus Christ. I think everybody who's seen it has paused for a second and was like, huh, we were talking about this last week and I said i wanted to get my body in the shape of that i am of the belief now that that might not be as attainable as i boasted about last week it is attainable it's i will i will set out on this goal and i will uh how are you doing with in some way dude that shit's difficult, man. I keep pushing the date back, and it's because I had so much weed in my house

that it was like... And I don't want to throw it away because I spent the money on it, and it was a lot of money. Why don't you give it to Daniel? I'm not giving away my marijuana, dog. This shit is mine. Listen, no disrespect to anybody, dog.

Listen, I paid for it. It's like I paid for my Rolos. I'm going to eat my Rolos, dude. It's the same shit. I paid for the weed. I'm going to smoke my motherfucking weed. But here's the good thing. Here's the great thing, is that I'm out. I'm not going to the dispensary to get more.

I'm just going to suffer and suffer and suffer until it no longer feels like I'm suffering. And then I will be on the other side. But right now, I do not like the way I feel. I feel lost. I feel in a haze or in a daze. And I really want to smoke weed, but I'm not going to, but I really fucking want to want to well there's this thing on reddit called unpopular opinion and uh it makes me think unpopular opinion but colon and they say weed isn't addictive that's bullshit that's a lie anybody who said that is lying well is there any way is there any way we as your friends could help you? Yeah, I mean, just no judgments, man.

This is something that I got to deal with. You know what I'm saying? There's no judgment. Honestly, that's all it boils down to. Everybody's going to deal with addiction in some way. I'm not saying this is a fucking, I'm not saying I'm on the level of heroin or cocaine or anything like that. But I have a straight up weed problem right now. If you're having girl problems, I feel bad for you, son.

I got 99 problems, but a bitch ain't one. And weed is one. And weed is one. I got 99 problems, and weed is one. Well, no judgment. We love you, and if you do want our support in any way, I'm here for you. I'll do anything for you. Definitely, I think a good step would be to not buy more.

I agree, 100%. for you um definitely i think a good step would be to not buy more i agree 100 percent um all right let's get back to the scrubs show uh kelso we catch elliot and i catch kelso he's hiding out at another coffee bucks and um i tell him that elliot's granny panties are actually her granny's panties that is disgusting and then we have a fantasy sequence where jd imagines uh elliot being sexy this was very naughty shit wow sarah chalk i want to say johnny c i just want to say in all without trying to sound like a creep holy fuck sarah what the hell were you like is that creatine like she was not only ripped but she was buff she was like looked like she was freaking lifting them weights like she was very pressing them things you know very toned and sexy and uh she looked fantastic she looked like she was eating chicken and broccoli probably was she looked absolutely beautiful she looked like a 1950s star out of valley of the dolls or right

you know who was it farrah fawcett no who was it in 50 Foot Woman? And also, what was the one that Jane Fonda did? Barbarella? And, uh... Oh, Sheena! That's who she looked like. Sheena! Freaking, uh... With the leather. Yeah, she had sort of a warrior princess outfit on. Yeah, yeah, she did. Not the warrior princess

Sheena back in the day. The one with, uh... Tanya Robertsberts yes yeah tanya roberts yes uh and then when she cut to me and i you know i was obviously uh going to the gym because i like your clothes off i didn't look too shabby yeah i took my shirt off yeah i was working out with uh bill's trainer then jurgen you didn't get the lights though she got the lights they didn't give you the lights they didn't give me the beauty lights, no. No. Well, hers was a fantasy, and mine was meant to be actually in the coffee shop.

Yeah, you took your shirt off to get the stain. She's like, why did you put your shirt back on? And I did that lean back to make my abs look better. You know, that lean back. Lean back. Lean back. Lean back. Lean back. So then we go to this wacky black hole world.

Hold up. Let's go back. You're skipping ahead. First of all, we need to talk about the janitor and how he fires the really nice janitor. Yes. And then we find out that the janitor, yeah, that was fucked up. That dude had two episodes. He was the nicest dude ever.

Gets fired. I skipped the second funniest thing in the whole fucking show. I apologize, audience. When we have that fantasy where we're hooking up and our hands clutch on them. Oh my God. Was Donald's hand on top of yours? Yes, it was.

You were bottoming. You were bottoming. I was bottoming. Hey! You were bottoming. I was the recipient. Yes, I was. You were bottoming. You were bottoming. I was bottoming. Hey! You were bottoming. I was the recipient. I used it right. Yes, I was the recipient of the goods.

I was the recipient of the goods. Yes. You were receiving, Zach. Donald, I remember us laughing so hard even shooting that. Yeah, I remember too. Even just shooting the clutching of the hands, we were cracking. Because the shot was so funny. We made so many people happy, though.

That made so many people happy. You see my hand come down, and then you see his come down and clutch it. That made so many people happy. So many people had wanted that to happen for so long. Oh, man, I laughed so hard. There's never been a shot of two hands that made me laugh harder than that shot oh it's hard not to it's it's hard not to go off into your own private Idaho on that one boy yeah well the I'm sure some fans did they paused that's pretty darn good so um let's see the

janitor um was never hired back and he's making uh Ted mop for him uh he's he's convinced ted that he's he's he's injured because he's rusty from mopping and uh and and so ted is so happy to have him back that ted who's not a very good mopper has has taken over all of the cleaning responsibilities but but everything about everything about sammy's physicality in this episode just yields huge dividends from him running around the hallway to him not being able to mop. Yeah. You know, and what's crazy is Sam was a tremendous athlete. Yeah. A tremendous.

Really good basketball player. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, a great basketball player. Oh, my goodness. What? Listen, it was so deceiving. And when I say he was a good basketball player, I mean, he was a very good, smart and athletic dude.

Athletic dude. You know what I mean? Yeah, but just the character he played, he was not like that at all. Not like that at all. And if you look at Sam, well, look at him outside of the show. If you look at his body when he would wear normal clothes, Sam was fit. Always looked fit, too. Okay.

You know what I mean? Could he drain threes, Donald? No, he was more of an inside player, and he was unorthodox, too. It wasn't like he was a lefty or anything like that. You don't expect somebody that looked like Sam when you work with him to be that good at sports. And he's phenomenal. He was phenomenal. Wow.

Like my brother, my brother, high praises for Sam's basketball. Like high praises. And my brother doesn't talk nice about everybody, but he talked nice about Sam all the time. He was like, dude. Like, so we played in the NBA Entertainment League, right? I tried so hard to get Sam to play in the NBA Entertainment League. He would always say no because we would play on Sundays and he was a huge Patriots fan, right? But we would try

so hard to get him to play basketball with us because we knew if we got him, people would look at him and be like, eh, he's not going to do anything. And we knew that he would just destroy everybody, right? Sam was such an amazing athlete. And the character that he played on television made you think, oh, this is going to be a piece of cake. That's also saying how great of an actor he was also. Right. Like he was so good at what he did that you would believe that he was that person, and he wasn't at all.

This is funny because Bill writes to the janitor saying something that Bill always says, and now if you're watching Shrinking, he's written it into Michael Urie's character saying it, but it's the phrase, everything always works out for me. Oh, that's right. So Bill put it into shrinking. Right. But don't you feel that way? That everything works out for him? No, that if you are of that mindset. Absolutely. I think what you manifest, you put out there. And if you genuinely believe this, as Bill does, you have to genuinely believe it you can manifest every day things working out for you and i think bill lives by that and he's one of the most successful people in town because he fully believes and manifests everything works out for me and i think he's

living proof that if you have the the will and the commitment to a mantra that you can make anything fucking happen but it's funny it's very obnoxious to people that that don't believe it and he and you kind of roll your eyes um but anyway so he gave it to the janitor here but just a funny connection to shrinking is that uh it's now a catchphrase for michael uri shrinking the janitor pulls it off here too. He's living the dream. He got fired. Not only does he get a pay raise, not only does he get a pay raise,

but he's now back on the books. Right. He didn't even have to go for a job interview or anything. All he just had to convince the lady with the checks that he's supposed to get one. And it's great bouncing that off of Ted, bouncing that off of Sammy is just great. He convinces the woman that he's gets double his salary and she just accepts

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Okay, I have a question. Who directed this episode ten uh ken winning ken winning and he did okay i love ken winning him i don't understand why you guys were in a black room okay that's not ken that's bill um i think if you remember back in the day this is a deep cut there was a very dramatic ish uh episode of family ties where michael j fox i believe lost a michael is alex b keaton lost a friend do you remember his best friend i do remember yeah yeah and they did a very stylized version of it where if you recall it was kind of broke the fourth wall of the sitcom and it was black and he was walking through the sets. Do you remember this? Yes, I do. So in my mind, this was sort of Bill's homage to that. It obviously is an out of the box idea for Scrubs. We never really did anything quite like this, but in his mind, we just disappear into this sort of black void and finally tackle the

difficult conversations of, are we going to really do this again or not? So it wasn't a Ken thing. I think it was a Bill writing it thing. Okay. It took me out of the episode. Yeah. I have to say, I don't think, I remember shooting it and didn't, and I didn't feel like I was very good at it.

I thought I was, I didn't know my lines well enough. And I remember thinking at the time, I wasn't present or up to the task to do it as well as it needed to be done. I disagree 100% with you right there. I think you both did a great job in it. I think what was missing was the ambiance and the background. The singling out. When you single something out and you take away everything, it's really, really, really, really, really hard to keep the audience captivated. That's just me. And I know it probably, it might have worked for Family Ties, but I don't, you know, I have a hard time just when movies are just a black set or when TV shows or when plays are just a black set. I think what you're also saying is that, and this I feel a lot in different forms of entertainment,

that the style choice upstaged the performance. Absolutely. Well, it also takes away from the performance because in real life, you're fidgeting. You're grabbing things. Regardless of what's going on in the conversation, even if you're present and you guys are eye to eye and looking and stuff like that, your body is doing other things.

When you take away all of that, you know what I mean? And it's just you and the other person, a table, and you're sitting there, you're forced to just focus on that, and that's not necessarily realistic. That's me personally. you're forced to just focus on that and that's not necessarily realistic no i hear you but i but all i'm saying is i feel many times as i watch content that i go oh my god

you have such fucking amazing actors and such incredible dialogue all this style that you've put on it is about you the filmmaker or the showrunner and like just let these fucking people talk like i want to just you're upstaging the performances with your style do you know what i mean right no yeah i totally and and and i don't know this might be this might be an example of that for you is what i was saying it's hard to if the whole show was like that i could totally by this point i would totally be invested in everything like that but because this came out of nowhere with no, it wasn't even like, I don't,

it wasn't even like, you know, with everything that's going on in this room, I only have eyes for you. You know what I mean? It wasn't even like that. It was just out of nowhere. Everything disappeared.

There was a quick line, Donald. And I don't know. I just for full coverage where they were like, and suddenly it was like, we were the only two people in the room. I think taking people out of the room is a better thing to do than just all of a sudden making it so that the room doesn't exist anymore. I think that would have been a good note, Donald, yeah. So there's a moment where Jimmy is, who does he say this to?

Is it me? All the energy energies in you. I'm just opening the channels. This is at the end. This is during the end credits. No, no, no, no. This was, no, I'm still within the show. When he's working on me, he says that.

Oh, yeah. All the energies in you. I'm just opening the channels. And I'm like, ah. That made me laugh so hard. Yeah, me too. And then Todd,

I think the first and only time Todd is the source of the wisdom of the episode. He said, life would be so much easier for everyone if we just trusted each other. Yeah, that was strange. It's impossible. It's like a stopped clock being right twice a day.

Todd finally has a piece of wisdom. That was very strange. I think Bill wanted to have him bizarrely be the source of the wisdom. This episode is about trust. Is Elliot and JD, are they going to trust each other? about trust. Is Elliot going to, and JD, are they going to trust each other? Is Dr. Cox, the, you know, best doctor leader of the hospital going to trust a surgeon in Turk? Are those patients going to trust each other for this bizarre kidney swap that we talked about? But it's also about, it's also about why we do what we do. Like that was a major part about it

too. Like coming back from the act, right? Why would you think we're dating? Why won't they do the transplant? Why would you still work here? The why is a big question. Well, it's the number one question coming back from the act break. And I thought that was really interesting. I mean, of course it's a sitcom and that's what we do, but I thought it was very interesting that who gives know, who gives a shit if J.D. and Elliot are dating? And that's what Kelso says at the end. Yeah, what Kelso ultimately says is, Kelso really drops the quote of the episode. He says, who the hell cares what anyone else thinks? Just look into your heart and do whatever the hell makes you happy.

And you've been quoting that for so long, Zach, on this podcast. And I didn't remember when it came in. And when I heard that shit, it was like an epiphany. It was like, you're absolutely fucking. And I've been listening to you say this shit. You said this to people that have called in. You said this to people that have, you know what I mean? Like, this is something that has consistently

and you give it you've given it to ken too you know saying how that line has resonated with you and it wasn't until i heard it today that it really fucking stuck with me you know yeah i think a lot of scrubs fans like that and and have responded to that over the years and um i think it's a good really mantra for living your life, particularly in the modern era when so many people can weigh in on your own choices. I got goosebumps at the end

when they grabbed hands. I'm not going to lie. I'm not ashamed. I shouted. Look, it's happening. Wait, you shouted yay or like, oh boy? Yeah, no, like in the best way because it's such a slow, steady build for these two.

And then the show kind of like drops it for so long. And then to see you guys just be friends, you and Sarah are so adorable. It's just like, oh, it's friend dates. We're just hanging out. And it's kind of like, I don't know if you've ever seen two friends like kind of fall in love where you're like,

oh no, they're doing, you know, before they know they're not quite catching up to like where they're feeling. It was that kind of feeling. I was was very excited i loved the end of this episode i gotta tell you i was not expecting to be affected by it but when i when i when jd grabs her hand i i fully got goosebumps i was like oh god i'm really rooting for them i'm like i'm truly invested i feel like it didn't come on suddenly either, though. I feel like what I wrote this down, I feel like what Bill did and how he's placed this from when the time you guys had broken up into, you know what I mean, into now. It's not like this comes out of nowhere.

And also, I think he knows he's wrapping me up, us up, you know, like the future of what was going to happen next season was very unclear. Um, I think he knows that he's going to stick the landing with me and Elliot and then, um, do a proper ending of season eight. Right. Like,

like we know we, we do that amazing, incredible, uh, walking down the hallway and the images of our future. And so he's building, he knows as a showrunner, he's got to get to there by the end.

Because I was going to say, he planted a hopeful seed in every season. There's a hopeful seed. Even in the season where JD breaks her heart completely, he still plants a hopeful seed that they can get back together every year you love planting seeds i planted at least six of them that's what you know about um so i said at least um well that brings us to the end of the episode um johnny any ending thoughts oh just that you guys are crushing this thing i don't know how you've been doing the perseverance you guys have exercised in your podcast i just i know there's some times when you don't feel like doing it and maybe it's a

bummer but you and joelle and daniel and d you guys just crushing this thing i'm so proud of you it's so fresh every time you do it and there there's gotta be times where it's just like specific, bringing the boulder up the goddamn mountain. It never feels that way when we're doing it. I do dread it sometimes when we're, when I'm supposed to do it. But the second I see, I guess that's what I mean.

The second I see their faces, I smile. When somebody calls action, you're going to do something. But prior to it, uh, you know, if you have a cold or if you just broke up or somebody passed, there's a million things.

And it doesn't matter. If somebody calls action or the curtain goes up, you've got to do something. But it's the in-betweens, which is the heavy lifting. Amen. Well said. Every actor should hear that. That was deep. Johnny, I'm going to come out.

I'm going to invite myself out. I want to come with him. I want it to be a mandate with all of us i hope you guys aren't just talking shit i would love you are you around um are you around saturday johnny yes i am not all right well i might i might hit you up for saturday uh because i'm going away i'm going on a tour for my new film hey john, John, I'm having a screening of my film. I'd love you to come on the 23rd of March if you're in town. What day of the week is that?

That is a Thursday. The film comes out March 24th on a Friday. And I'm about to go on a tour. So let's do a little housekeeping, Joelle. We're going to be off for one week and then we're going to do a special top secret episode for you. That's a surprise. And then we're going to be off for another week, right?

I need to figure out my hiatus week. Casey and I are working on it and I'll send everyone a calendar and I'll update the fans. Update the fans. Just know if you're listening, like there'll be new episodes and some classic episodes mixed in. Yeah. And audience, I just want to tell you,

Donald is starting his new show and I'm going on a yeah and audience i just want to tell you um um donald is starting his new show and i'm going on a press tour to promote a good person so um the schedule will be a smidgen wonky um but um we are bringing you a very cool surprise we can't tell you yet episode i'm excited for them i'm excited for them to and two weeks not only for them i'm not i'm not only excited for the audience i'm excited for the to... Not only for them, I'm not only excited for the audience, I'm excited for the people who aren't necessarily listeners to Fake Doctors, Real Friends, to see the capacity of... I'm not going to give it away. A firepower that you're bringing, that we're bringing. It's going to be a surprise, everybody. Wow.

Yeah. Holy smokes. We'll tell you, Johnny, when we get off the air. No, don't. By the way, did you hear when Sarah thought we did this live and that when we go to commercial, we really just sit around and chat and wait for the commercials to end?

She's the best. She's the best. She's amazing. She's the best. I love her so much. What was the date of the special episode, Aris Joel? We're probably going to air that one on the 21st. Okay.

Yeah. All right. Okay, wait. Before we go. Yeah, we're wrapping up. Go ahead. The Mandalorian. We're not going to talk about that at all?

No. We haven't seen it yet. You guys haven't seen The Mandalorian yet? You're yelling. You're yelling. Remember? Because we're talking passion. We're talking passion. We talked about yelling. We talked about yelling. We talked about yelling. Because we're talking passion. We're talking passion.

We talked about yelling. We talked about yelling. We did. The audience does not want to be yelled at, honey. I am sorry. And I am sorry. But it is Thursday. Is it good?

That motherfucker. I mean, it's... Listen, man. There are two versions of Star Wars. With all due respect, please keep it short. It'll be quick as possible. It's two versions of Star Wars now. There's what the fans want, and then there's the storytelling.

This is a very fan-heavy show. So if you're a fan of Star Wars, you tune into this, you're going to get what you want. If you're a story-driven Star Wars fan, Andor's for you. If you're like me and you love it all, it's wonderful to be your Star Wars fan right now. Oh my God. You're ridiculous. Beautiful. You know, I love that Star Wars makes you so happy. I hope that I can one day make you as happy as George Lucas does. You make me happy. Listen, dude, you make me so happy i hope that i can one day make you as happy as george you make me listen dude you make me so you make me i'm jealous i'm jealous of how happy george lucas makes you it's not just george lucas it's also john favaro yeah and favaro all right listen but i'm gonna tell you something

right now you make me happier than they ever thank you i can't wait to be in the cold tub with you and just be receiving your your we should go in the tub together maybe. There's shrinkage in the tub. No, listen. It's like one of those small little barrels. I want to get in there with you. Face-to-face. Yeah.

I want to feel your breath. I need your heat. Or maybe if you spoon. I need the heat from your mouth. I think we shouldn't go in face-to-face. We just go in there. No, buddy. We'll go in there spooning.

I need your heat. Johnny, is it recommended to go in as a spoon? Under no conditions are you guys going in together? What is it? 98 degrees in the mouth? Isn't it 98 degrees in the mouth? I'm going to need you to blow some of that on me. Johnny doesn't want his ice tub fucking ruined by us spooning it. We will not ruin it. We will not ruin it.

There will be no fluids. There will be no fluids. There will be nothing like that. There will be no fluids exchanged. All I'm saying is I need your heat. Yeah, I need your heat. I need to hold you. I need your warmth. We're on the edge of the tub. On the edge of the tub, we're going to grip each other's

hands like in the episode. Oh, my word! his hands like in the episode. Oh, my word. All right. That's it, everybody. Please check out A Good Person trailer. It's on YouTube.

I'm doing a whole tour around the country and the United Kingdom to promote A Good Person starring Morgan Freeman and the legendary Florence Pugh and Molly Shannon.

Please check it out. It's coming to a theater near you on March 24th. Johnny, we love you so much. I love you guys. Thank you so much for being on the show today, Johnny. All right, that's the show. Donald, count us out. Five, six, seven, eight.

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