Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 808: My Lawyer’s in Love with Kate Micucci

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

On this week's episode, Ted falls in love with a ukulele player. In the real world, we're getting ready for our first live show! Plus the fabulous Kate Micucci joins us and serenades us with her ukule...le. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:53 Shit got real. We're doing a live show for a lot of people. Woo. That's crazy. It's a lot of people, dude. I went to a show. I went to a show that had about 2 000 people uh a concert and i was like holy shit this is a lot of people yeah it's gonna be awesome now i'm nervous
Starting point is 00:02:11 no i'm excited don't get me wrong i'm just also not a shit to talk about that would never happen i don't think that's gonna happen you know the only thing i was obsessing about is like all right so because i'm just now i'm the second it sold out, I got anxious. I was like, oh, shit. Like, we got to be, we got to put on a real show. And I know we're going to put on a great show, but my brain went to like, all right, so you come out, right? They're super stoked. They're clapping.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We come out. We're all super stoked. And then it's amazing right but then like it feels like you would then the expectation you go into some sort of like comedy routine or or like a stand-up and like we're gonna sit down and talk about re-watching a tv show i know a lot of people do podcasts but uh like live shows but i just hope that the audience like adjusts to like we're not gonna like strut around doing stand-up like eddie murphy and delirious now in leather suits donald going to pop up at some point and do either a very dope dance? Yeah, Donald, you're going to have to dance to please the crowd.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I ain't no monkey, man. What the fuck is y'all doing? No. How come I wasn't dance monkey dance, man? People love it when you dance, Donald. I did a family feud when you did pop up I performed a very dope dance for the audience, and everyone was super entertained and loved you for it. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:30 That's true, Donald. All I hear is... Oh, my God. Dance, monkey, dance. Well, I'm sorry. I don't want you to feel that way, but people do love it when you dance. Who's playing music? You guys know what I'm sorry. I don't want you to feel that way, but people do love it when you dance. Who's playing music?
Starting point is 00:03:47 You guys know what I'm saying, right? Like, we have to, like, elegantly shift from, like, you're so psyched to be here. We're so psyched to be here. Now we're going to sit on couches and talk about a TV show. Like, we're not, like, doing stand-up. You know what I mean? Or am I just being, like, overthinking it? I think you might be overthinking it.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I think everybody knows what they want to see. Like you and I have done Q and A's before that like, that have been gone awesome and great. It's just kind of. I think that's what everybody thinks they're coming to see. Well, they are going to maybe see some of that. There might be a little conversation between us and the audience,
Starting point is 00:04:18 right? That's like. No, of course we're going to do a Q and A. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel's going to be Phil Donahue and run into the audience with the mic,
Starting point is 00:04:25 right? Daniel, that's one of your responsibilities. Yes responsibilities yes sir i'll be out there with my little sneakers on daniel maybe you should dress like phil donahue when you got off the call yesterday i was saying maybe daniel could be you know rock the crowd like before the show starts be on the turntables oh that's not a bad idea. I'll also do a little set before we start. Oh, would you be able to turn like Donald showing how the DJs turn around and- Like how Aziz did? You kidding? Of course.
Starting point is 00:04:54 When you DJ, Daniel, are you one of those people that actually uses the fake turntables? I certainly can, yeah. I mean, you know, these days I... You got techniques? I don't personally own techniques, but I used to teach people on techniques.
Starting point is 00:05:11 So yes, I am a capable vinyl turntablist. That's what's up. That's what matters. All of that button pressing is kind of cool if you've got the rhythm and stuff like that. The computer does most of it for you. But if you've got skills and stuff like that the computer does most of it for you but if you got skills to rock it on techniques if you can dj jazzy jeff that shit you are fire for real with
Starting point is 00:05:33 the turntables i believe daniel knows how to dj jazzy jeff that shit he's old school he might look like a little baby just because he doesn't know what a floppy disk is doesn't mean he doesn't know how to rock it on what kind of music would you dj for our audience while they're coming in that's not a bad idea i think you're something kind of like low-key but still exciting something like the kind of like understated hip-hop vein not edm that'd be hilarious if everybody walked into straight i don't want no no show me love no show me love but definitely some uh yeah but definitely some like nice cool beats that people could sit down and enjoy too maybe some head bobbing music yeah what if people were like back in the days on the boulevard of london we used to kick routines and
Starting point is 00:06:23 the presence was fitting it was that's a good idea abstract and me the five footer i kicked the mad style so step off the frank footer i think it's a good idea uh daniel would you be open to doing that of course absolutely i already got a contact in uh seattle for some decks so oh you're gonna worry all right so then you could set up the the the the dj table yeah yeah i mean it would be a little you know depending on we could talk about this later but like depending on how much in front of the crowd you want me to be maybe i'm off to the side so that people don't see me necessarily so it doesn't like break the immersion of oh wait that's dj dan i want you to be dj
Starting point is 00:06:59 i think you know i want you to be like straight up marshmallow man whatever that dude's is, where you are rocking the crowd and they're just standing there with their phone. Like, that shit is hilarious to me. I love standing by the DJ and watching, but that shit is crazy to me that people just show up to watch a DJ press buttons. That shit kills me, dude. It's very popular. That shit kills me, dude. I love it. Those guys are the richest guys in music.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I need to get on that, man. The famous DJs. Y'all need to teach me how to press that button properly so that I can be like these cats, man, because for real, man. What's to stop someone, Daniel, from just doing it all on their laptop and doing it all for show and hitting play?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Nothing stops them, and there's lots of very popular DJs who already do it. Really? We're not going to name names. How about that shit's already happening? Yeah, my question is this. These guys who are making a zillion dollars doing like Vegas or whatever, you know, and flying in private jets.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Sure. Are they actually doing it live? Or I know you can't speak for all of them, but are some of them just like hitting play on a fucking program? They are. 100%. or I know you can't speak for all of them, but are some of them just like hitting play on a fucking program? They are a hundred, a hundred percent. What they'll have is like,
Starting point is 00:08:11 imagine like a whole set mixed onto an MP3 and you go up to the CDJ, you just go bump. And then, you know, you do the couple hand things every once in a while, but it's all acting, all acting. Like all those cats that be doing that shit in the snow. Like,
Starting point is 00:08:21 yo, you know what? I went and saw a gang star. I went and saw a gang star perform DJ premiere and guru back in the snow. They're like, yo, you know what? I went and saw Gangstar. I could sell a show. I went and saw Gangstar perform, DJ Premier and Guru, back in the day when I was younger, right? They performed at some spot in New York City. And Premier is the best DJ I've ever seen in my life. Him and freaking Jazzy Jeff are the two best DJs. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Shit, that is a spy turd. Excuse me, sorry. Get it. Him and DJ Jazzy Jeff are two of the best djs i have ever seen in my life premiere is not doing the press the tape and just scratching over the track he's doing everything that you heard on the record he's doing it live beep, he's actually putting it in. He's taking the record off, putting the other beat on while Guru's on stage rapping. It was one of the dopest nights of my life. I was like, you know, and Guru was a dope rapper.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Rest in peace. You know, he was a dope rapper. But Premiere, holy cow, man. That's one of the best, like, holy, like, by far, one of my best experiences. And then also, like, you want to talk about DJs. That's the DJ, dude. Him and Jazzy Jeff. You want to watch Jazzy Jeff right now.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Just look him up on YouTube right now. And also, you want to talk about one more DJ? Let's talk about DJ Dano, who will be doing it at the Moore Theater on June 10th. Dano, you won't be doing the fake thing, though, where you just hit play and pushing the buttons, right? Never have, never will. I don't want our audience to think that you are up there just pushing buttons. I mean, just faking it.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Sure, there will be no faking it. Absolutely not. Never have, never will. You heard that? I think Donald and I should enter. Can you time it out so that donald and i enter to um pimp are you wanting to enter to maybe but do you want to enter do you want to enter to yeah do you want to enter to i want to enter hold on let me finish do you want to enter
Starting point is 00:10:18 to the snoop dog uh 50 cent version or just a 50 cent version I don't know what you heard about me but a bitch can't get a dollar out of me no Cadillac no birds can't see and I'm a motherfucking P-I-M-P P can we enter it to that Donald you okay with that do you turn your key
Starting point is 00:10:41 turned that sounds fire if Daniel's on steam Do you turn your key? Turned. That sounds fire. No, listen. If Daniel's on stage. I just want that shit to start off with. I got you. Daniel, make sure you have that on your decks because we're going to need to enter to that. No problem.
Starting point is 00:11:03 All right. I like that a plan is coming together. So, Daniel, you'll DJ while the audience comes in sure now are you gonna be distracted if people are like dj daniel what's up can i take a picture with you can i take a selfie with you from this from here i was gonna say lest we forget that that was my job for 10 years before all of this so i think i'll be okay okay got this what. What if people are like, Dan, I'll show us your tits. I mean, if they're throwing dollars. We should get a banner for Dan's Twitch. Can we throw a Twitch banner up or is that against our-
Starting point is 00:11:33 Do you want a tip jar, Dan? We can have a tip jar for it. Remember that show It's a Living and the guy with the piano at the bar? That could be you, Dan. That's me. But you're a DJ. No, we don't want him
Starting point is 00:11:46 to get a tip jar and no Twitch signage. Just he's a DJ for the show. I'll just be up there by myself with the stage. Will you wear a marshmallow head? No marshmallow head, but we'll, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Will you wear a funny outfit? Will you wear like a gold suit? Gold. Wow. Yeah. I have like a fake gucci jacket from the 80s i might wear that do that oh shit or any kind of onesie i feel i picture you like in a onesie oh wait he's going to get the jacket sorry audience that's coming in that's a spoiler
Starting point is 00:12:20 got this it's like a fake gucci starter jacket that I got at a flea market. Wow. Amazing. It's, I mean, like, you know, it's obviously not real, but it is very, it is very bold. And I keep a little lavender bag on it so the moths don't get to it. It might, it might be real, Daniel. You don't know if that's fake. You're right.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I don't know. Neither did the person at the flea market who sold it to me for $20. Nice. Well, now I'm excited. All right. So we got that covered. Audience in Seattle, you're in for a treat. You're going to see DG Daniel do his thing.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And I'm sorry it's a spoiler, but we're going to enter to PIMP. We might switch it up. No, I love it. We can't. PIMP is your jam? That's your jam jam? Well, if we do more shows, can we agree that for Seattle,
Starting point is 00:13:09 we're going to enter to that? Key's already been turned, bro. All right. I just feel like- It's already on the way. I just feel like we both would feel nice entering to that. There's lots of secrets that are happening, and we're going to make it fun.
Starting point is 00:13:22 There's lots of secrets that are- I want all of the spoiler channels out there to try and spoil our show. No, don't spoil our show. Just try. Try and figure out what we're going to do. Daniel and Joelle, have you done a live podcast show before?
Starting point is 00:13:40 In a on stage at a studio? No. But I've helped produce and oversee the production of one before are you gonna rock some fly everybody gonna rock fly sneakers for this yeah i got a dope sneaker right everybody got your sneaker game ready for this oh yeah i'm deciding i'm deciding which ones now um okay now what now people are gonna film what if people is like the custom, just like a concert that they're going to video the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Should we be expecting that? I think so. I think people making things like TikTok and Instagram content should be expected. Right. Because I went to see a concert, the same concert with the 2,000 people, and I would say like 40% of the audience had their phones up the whole time.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I don't think we need to worry about that, but there will be people who, like, I think when certain things happen. Don, you got to be careful because we can't say, Dan, I'll cut that. Oh, I know. I'm well aware. I'm well aware. I'm well aware.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Hey, Dan, will you make one of my buttons on these things, me saying, Dan, I'll cut that? Yes. Dan, I'll cut that. Dan, I'll cut that. I'm laying down some tracks for you right now. Dan saying daniel cut that yes daniel cut that daniel i'm laying down some tracks for you right now daniel cut that so audience for those of you who don't know we often very often donald and i say to each other or to daniel daniel cut that because because one of us has said something that's probably not great to to be aired all you got to do is just look at Joelle's face and Joelle's face is like...
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah, that's the Daniel Cut That face. Daniel Cut That. Now, Donald, will you be high as a kite during the live show? Not as a kite. Maybe as a satellite. Maybe as a satellite. Guys are so much higher than kites.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Oh, no. When you send it flying up there, all it wants is lighter than air. Donald, do you have any concern about being too high for the live show?
Starting point is 00:15:36 You know... Like, when you're smoking, will you be modulating? Will you be going, hmm, it is a live show. Maybe I'm good for now. You know, I think I've reached my limit. i don't think i can
Starting point is 00:15:46 get much higher girl we couldn't get much higher yeah so much like jim morrison you couldn't get like i could smoke it like it's cigarettes now like it's like you know i think it's an oral fixation now it's not necessarily a it's not necessarily i enjoy the feeling of marijuana i think i like the feeling of smoke hitting my lungs i think that's what i what i like now it's crazy man it's crazy how because in after because when you you know it's crazy the the the uh the thoughts of a of a stoner I mean, they make movies about it. They do. They do.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It's a very common joke, a stoner and his thinking process. Yeah. Very unique. All right. Well, we have a very exciting guest for this episode. It worked out so that we could get Kate Maguchi. That's how you say it, right, Donald? I think it's Maguchi. for this episode. It worked out so that we could get Kate Magoochie. That's how you say it, right, Donald?
Starting point is 00:16:48 I think it's Magoochie. Magoochie? I think it's with a C, yeah. Isn't it Kate Magoochie? Well, her nickname was Gooch, so I always thought it was Magoochie. No, that was because of the character on the show, I thought. We're going to ask her. You think it's Magoochie, Dale? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:04 All right, we're going to ask her. She played the Gooch on the show, as you all know. And I think this is her first episode. Am I right, Joel? This is her first episode. Yes. She's actually an amazing, not only is she an amazing ukulele player, she's a very good actress and a very funny actress.
Starting point is 00:17:21 She did a movie a long time ago. Well, not a long time ago. I guess right around pandemic. Her, Aubrey Plaza, and Dave Franco, and Alison Brie. Like, they made this movie, and it's pretty funny. And she's in it, and she's very funny in it. She's very talented. So I'm really excited that she's on the show. All right, should we count in and invite her in for the whole show?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Let's do it. Five, six, seven, eight. That you all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald Hello, hello! Hi! How are you? I'm good, how are you doing? We're so happy you're here.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Oh my gosh, me too. I was like looking forward to this so much. Even when I just saw, you know, when you originally started this, I was like, oh, I hope I get to do it when they get to my episode. So thank you. Oh, you're so sweet. We were just talking about how talented you were before we invited you onto the program. What was that movie that you did with Alison Brie and Dave Franco and Aubrey Plaza?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Oh, The Little Hours? Yeah, that shit was funny as hell, man. You guys were crazy in that movie. I loved that movie. Yes, super crazy, all of us. That was such a fun, thank you. Thank you, guys. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah, that was such a fun, crazy movie. Go ahead. I'm just surprised Donald watched a movie that wasn't about Star Wars, so it must have been great. And Zach, congrats on your movie. Oh, my God. Thank you. Just tear my heart out.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And I love trains, too. I was like, oh, I love trains. And then I was like, ha, ha, ha. If you like trains and having your heart broken, oh, it's great. Wait, Kate, I want to make sure I'm pronouncing you right. Will you pronounce your last name for us? Sure, Makuchi. I always say think dirty.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Makuchi. Yeah. Makuchi. Makuchi. It's funny because I made up in my head that it was Magoochie, which I know the spelling doesn't match up, but I think that's just because we called you the Gooch on Scrubs. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I mean, it makes sense. Let's do this right real quick. Ladies and gentlemen, Kate Makoochie! Yes, Makoochie. Yes, Makooch Yes, Makuchi. Thank you. I think I just had a brain fart because we called you the Gooch, and I was like, I know it's spelled with a C,
Starting point is 00:19:51 but maybe bizarrely or someone calls it Makuchi, but that is not correct. It's Makuchi. It is Makuchi. In fact, I was in New York like a month ago. Oh, are we? Is this like officially, are we recording? Yeah, it's all happening.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Oh, great. I just want to make sure. Kate, you are recording, right? Okay, I am on my end. I hope want to make sure, Kate, you are recording, right? Okay. I am on my end. I hope it's, I hope the levels are good. I think they are.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I think. You can go a little bit louder. A little bit louder for, for just for me, not for Dale maybe. Only if it looks good on your side and it's not. It does. It's still,
Starting point is 00:20:17 yeah, it's not getting blown out or anything. I think it's because Donald is in a big echoey chamber. So also too, I don't have the best setup. I, it's, I should have. It looks like you have too, I don't have the best setup. I should have. It looks like you have a great setup. You have a better setup than I do.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Shoot. I think you have a fancier microphone than I do, and you also have one of those spit guards that they had in the We Are the World video. Donald, we don't have spit guards. I have a spit guard. Oh, Dan, why don't I have a spit guard? I think we gave you a spit guard. There comes a time.
Starting point is 00:20:42 When we heed a certain call. That was the first time I ever saw a spit guard. And we you a spit card. There comes a time. When we heed a certain call. That was the first time I ever saw a spit card. When we need a spit card. I didn't know what a spit card was until I saw the We Are The World video. Everybody wanted one after that. I just remember watching that as a kid and feeling really bad for Cindy Lauper because she had all of this jewelry on. And they were like, Cindy, can you please take off your jewelry? And she's like, oh, yeah, sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And it's just like, I remember being a little kid feeling really sad for her that she had to take off her jewelry. That's just hilarious. Go ahead and say it. Do it. Well, Donald and I have been sending these videos back and forth. I don't know if you've seen them on Instagram, but it's like footage I never saw before of Michael Jackson reacting to people being off key. He wrote the song, right? Quincy Jones, right? Lionel Richie and Quincy Jones. Oh, Lionel Richie, okay, yeah, with Quincy Jones, right?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Lionel Richie and Quincy Jones. And Quincy Jones, right. And so when some people weren't quite hitting the note, there's video of Michael like wincing like, or just giving a really evil look like, no man you're not fucking you fucking this up right now.
Starting point is 00:21:43 There was no auto-tune back then. No, man. That's when they could really sing. Yeah, that's true. But was that your first time ever seeing a spit guard, Kate? You know, I don't remember the spit guard, but I've always really been interested in any kind of footage of recording studios. Whenever they'd show behind the scenes of a Disney movie,
Starting point is 00:22:02 that to me was just the magical part of it. So I love that I get to be in record. Well, these days are different, but before, before COVID, I was in a lot of recording studios, but the funny thing about whenever you see behind the scenes footage of,
Starting point is 00:22:15 I'm going to have to ruin this forever. The audience, whenever you see behind the scenes footage of someone recording their part in an animated movie, that's, that's, that's, that's not the footage.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah. It's staged because That's not the footage. Yeah, it's staged. Because the camera crew, there was no lighting in the darkly lit recording studio and a camera crew while you were actually recording. But then there's like a press day. So they light up a beautiful microphone. Don't nobody be showing up to freaking stand in the booth looking all fresh and clean like that. Yes, exactly. And you have hair and makeup. You have hair and clean like that. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And you have hair and makeup. You have hair and makeup, and it's lit beautifully. And a lot of times people aren't even wearing headphones, and I'm always like, oh. Most people don't know that that's not the real, them really doing it. But anyway, I'm sorry to ruin that. Hollywood magic.
Starting point is 00:22:59 No, it's true. It's very true. Do you do a lot of voiceover and sound work? You have such a unique voice. Oh, thanks. Yeah, I do a lot of voiceover. I've been Velma in Scooby-Doo since 2014, I want to say. Oh, awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And DuckTales and a bunch of, yeah, Jinkies, according to my calculations. But I also, and I record a lot of music. So I have spent a lot of time in studios, but I just love recording studios. The last time I saw you, actually,
Starting point is 00:23:31 was at Comic-Con. Yes! I was getting off of an, I was lost on an elevator. We were passing and you were with the DuckTales crew. You, Bobby Moynihan,
Starting point is 00:23:40 you all were all together hanging out. Yes, we were like two ships. I was like, hi, and you were like, hi, and then that was it. It was very quick. And that was it. And that was'all all together hanging out yes we were like two ships i was like hi and you're like hi and then that was it it was very that was it and that was it i love hanging out with the disney press people man they really take care of you they really do they really you think i'm joking when i say this i mean this with 100 percent comic-con is tough and sometimes you know
Starting point is 00:23:59 like you know at least the dis people, you get food. Right. And water. Yes, water. It's a brutal, it's like a marathon. But anyway, it's good to see all of you, and nice to meet you, Joel. Yeah, that's Joel and Daniel. Hi, nice to meet you, Daniel. Nice to meet you. Daniel's going to, we're doing our first live show on the 10th in Seattle. And before you came on, we decided in a sort of open production meeting for the audience
Starting point is 00:24:30 that Daniel was going to be the DJ as the audience comes in to the venue. Indeed. And are you going to be playing songs from the show, I'm assuming? That's a good question. No, I think he's- That is a good question. You know, also, we're doing the musical episode. What if you remixed some of the musical with a a that's just too much work dude oh you mean on
Starting point is 00:24:50 the turntables you're talking about the turntables daniel here's a question just find it find the tempo yeah find the beat here's my question yes exactly could you do that with one of the songs from the musical everything maybe you know what yes alright Donald
Starting point is 00:25:10 Donald down to poo yeah whether it's a tumor or a touch of the yeah Daniel
Starting point is 00:25:17 could you do that well maybe I'll surprise you guys keep a couple of horns and yeah alright pretend this this Wu-Tang Forever track is Everything Comes Down to Poo. Could you do this to it?
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Starting point is 00:26:30 what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers. Probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey
Starting point is 00:27:07 with so many of you. There's something so authentic about a podcast. It's me connecting me talking raw in the moment. That's what my goal is to give you to talk about why I feel that cancer to a certain extent is a gift. What my responsibilities are as a person with cancer. Because I think that there's something so much bigger than me. And to be honest, I'm still trying to find out what that is. And maybe together we'll find it. It's going to be a wild ride. So I hope that you all tune in.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Listen to Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michael B. Jordan, and you can listen to it right now. Michael is known for his performances in both film and television.
Starting point is 00:28:02 His breakout role was in Fruitvale Station, playing Oscar Grant, which earned him widespread praise and numerous award nominations. His portrayal of Killmonger in Marvel's Black Panther, one of my favorites, further solidified his status as one of Hollywood's leading actors,
Starting point is 00:28:20 earning him widespread acclaim for his complex and compelling performance. In our conversation, Michael really opens up. You're going to love listening to it. And I can't wait for you to check it out. The closest to getting what you want is always the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready. You know, people give up right before they get what they always wanted to get.
Starting point is 00:28:40 People quit. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. get people quit listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts you're so funny in this uh episode and and so sweet and and and i love the song you are so charming you're very charming how did um let's just go back to the beginning uh how did Bill find you? I know that you have a band, right, called Garfunkel and Oates? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah, so. So can you tell us about how Bill came across you? It was kind of this serendipitous thing that happened because I had auditioned to play, you know, they were getting new interns on the show, and I originally auditioned for that. And in the room, if I remember this correctly, Bill had said to me, like, I want to write a part for you that's not one of the interns. And usually when you hear something like that, you think, oh, well, that's nice. But, you know, okay, that's nice to meet you. Thanks for, you know.
Starting point is 00:29:35 But the truth is he's such a good dude and a man of his word. And then I got a call that he had written this part because he had seen I had at the time I'd uploaded a couple of different ukulele songs on YouTube it was like the very early days of YouTube and then at the same time my friend Ricky Lindholm and I had started this duo called Garfunkel Notes where I play the ukulele and she plays the guitar and um it just was one of those things where she had put up a couple of the videos on YouTube truly I didn't know like was like, I just want my family to see what we've written, so I'm uploading it on this site. This was such early days.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And then I was like, oh, no, people are watching our songs. I was almost embarrassed. But then all of a sudden, people seemed to like those songs, and one of them being the song that Bill saw, which can we swear on this show? Yes, please. Curse as much as you want to. Unfortunately, Donald and I occasionally get very- I talk about smoking weed on this show? Yes, please. Curse as much as you want to. Unfortunately, Donald and I occasionally get very-
Starting point is 00:30:27 I talk about smoking weed on this shit. That's the least of the shit you talk about. You're right. We go hard. His wife spoke about their intimate experiences on their wooden floor. We talk about banging and all that stuff. There is no censor.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Great. You needed way more context. And then if you do go too far, there's always the, hey, Daniel, cut that. Yeah, you can always say as we do, Daniel, cut that. Great. Well, I don't think I'll go too far, but I will say that the song is called Fuck You. It's a happy fuck you. It's not like a mean fuck you.
Starting point is 00:30:59 It's like, fuck you. But it's Ricky and I had written this song. This was even prior to us having a duo we just wrote this for a musical she was um making a film a short film and so we had that on youtube and then people started seeing it and then bill i guess maybe i don't know how he found maybe when i had auditioned he had looked me up or somebody had and he so when they came back and they said um you know there's this part that of of the ukulele girl in the show, you're going to be Ted's love interest.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Can we use one of your songs from this YouTube video? And, or, you know, from, from, you know, the song, fuck you is what I'm saying. And, and so I was like, let me call Ricky. I think that would be really cool. And so I called, I tried to get Ricky. She was like in Spain and this is like, you know, it was a lot harder to get a hold of someone back
Starting point is 00:31:46 then even. So I remember calling trying to figure out if we could use the song and then when I got a hold of her, she was like, that's so cool! Yes, use it! So then we ended up having to figure out a different word for fuck, which I actually... And we're on ABC at this time
Starting point is 00:32:02 too, so... And it became Screw You, right? Yes, but yesterday I was like, wait, there's an email, and I found it. Can I share it with you? Absolutely. So this is from July of 2008, and it's basically options that ABC, that the show had sent to ABC. And for some reason in my brain, it was like a laundry list of options. It's not. It's just a few,
Starting point is 00:32:25 but I'll give you those. So it says, would any of these below phrases be acceptable as an alt for fuck? The phrase would I want to then says blank you. So screw was the first option. Then bang, doink, sex, and nail.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Sex you. I want to sex you. I want to sex you. I want to sex you. I want to doink you is funny, too. Doink is pretty funny. I think screw is by far the best choice. It's one of the clearer ones, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sex, there's nothing more clearer than sex you, though. But who says that? What's so unique about it? Well, color me bad, dude. I want to sex you up. You're right.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You're right. You know, what's so unique about it is you play, the character seems like she has such a sweet innocent. And of course we should give love to the late Sam Lloyd. You two had such a beautiful chemistry together. You know, watching it, it was, I just loved him. And I, watching it, rewatching the show last night, I hadn't seen it since it aired in 2008 or 2009. And it was really bittersweet just thinking, like, we really did have a good chemistry for sure. He was so much
Starting point is 00:33:31 fun. And the guys in the Blanks, they're so great. I got to know them a bit, too. The Blanks, I was doing a live show at the Steve Allen Theater here in LA, and they were guests on my show. Oh, awesome. They were just so fun. i actually have a funny story i remember that sam told me uh about their their band or i was it is it a band it's a it's a acapella group an acapella group and um they were hired to play at a wedding and the wedding song was god only knows and um they ended the song with i may not always love you and they ended the song with, I may not always love you. And they realized, like they kind of held it
Starting point is 00:34:09 and they realized that is not a good way to end the song at a wedding. That's really funny. But you and Sam just had really wonderful chemistry. And I remember thinking on set, like that I could see you guys really just clicked and got along well and had your own, you know, just connection and inside jokes. I remember I remember thinking that. I think I remember being like this was my first kind of really big like being on a show that was successful.
Starting point is 00:34:39 This was a very big deal for me. And so I just remember being like almost um, almost like didn't even know what I was getting myself into, you know, like, it was just like, Oh, what, what am I doing here? I was, I was so new and so green. Um, so yeah, watching it last night, I was like, Oh, Hey, for, for being so new, I did. Okay. Oh, I thought you were great. Great. I didn't know. I just rewatched it as we always do, and I couldn't, I wouldn't have guessed that it was your first big job. I thought you were wonderful.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Oh, thank you. And so sweet. It's really interesting how the season is turning out also compared to the other ones because this is the dynamic shift. We have moved to ABC. We're no longer on nbc and stuff like that and and you know you and uh uh the the gooch and ted's relationship was just it's it's new but it's also showing a different side of ted which nobody has seen before which was really amazing you know i mean he's
Starting point is 00:35:39 charming he's smiling he's happy and you've never like you've seen it as a joke with him like cheering you know what i mean but you never see him just like smitten and just you know filled with joy and spirit he's always the down guy and it was just such a you know everything is shifting and it was just such a great shift because the other tones so far, you know, I feel like NBC is, I mean, ABC and NBC,
Starting point is 00:36:12 the comparison is a little too wholesome on ABC, but this is one that I embrace. Like, this is one of those things that's like, it just feels right. Like it feels fresh and new. And that's what this show is needing at this point. Yeah. I, you know, Yeah, he is such a charming,
Starting point is 00:36:31 and just to see him kind of smitten with this character and also that giant pratfall that he did. I mean, there's so many funny moments in this. Yeah, he's such a talented, talented guy. Yeah, what a great physical comedian, like you're saying. He did so much funny shit and he did all of it. I mean, I'm sure he occasionally must have had a double but I remember him being really
Starting point is 00:36:51 adept at physical comedy. I keep trying to tell you he was so athletic. He was so athletic. Yeah. He would bust your ass in basketball. Like for real, for real. He was very athletic. He had great footwork. He was fast. Anybody who's ever played a sport with him, you'd be like, wow, holy shit, dude. You're like, he was incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Wow. All right. Well, let's get into the episode, guys. It's 808. Deb Fordham wrote it, directed by Mark Stegman. There is unfortunately no Donald or Sarah, which is bizarre. You know how I feel about no donald episodes well you know what usually i'm like i don't want to watch this episode i don't like this episode but this episode turned out to be so good that well i hope i hope we're done with the no donald uh episodes because i don't like them although it's so nice but you're so full of shit no i mean it
Starting point is 00:37:42 i mean you don't like this episode i laughed laughed a lot, mostly because of Kate and Sam being adorable together. But I do feel that when you take Donald and Sarah Chalk out of the episode, it's a big hit. I have a question. What was happening? Was it something that they were just trying to get as many? It was money. I think what they did was they tried to get the budget of the show down. And so they told all of us that we were going to miss X amount of episodes a season.
Starting point is 00:38:14 This is coming right. This is coming back after the strike and everything like that. Yes. Whether we were going to switch networks and everything. Yeah. We were just hanging on. We didn't even know if this is the last strike. A lot of people don't know this, but every year, every year we were just hanging on.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Every year. Bill always found a way. Yeah, Bill did always find a way. And in 2008, the last strike that happened, the Writers Guild strike, really shortened our previous season. And pretty much we thought we were done. NBC told us we were done and then ABC picked us up. So I think in picking us up, they said we want to find some ways to make the show for cheaper and they came up with this bizarre scheme.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Well, salaries changed and everything, like so many things, so many things happened. But anyway, so the show opens with uh sam saying peons assemble and uh they all come together they're always around that he has to keep them always around right donald they're near they're his superpower we learned that later that they're his superpower but he has confidence when he's looking like the badass that he is when he's singing with his group everyone feels a greater self-esteem when they're in their element doing the thing
Starting point is 00:39:28 that they're great at, and he's a great singer. And he's the leader of this band. He's the leader of this group. Now, he wants to sing in pediatrics, and he's pitching to sing Seasons Don't Fear the Reaper. It's not really the best song for pediatrics. But they do sound great, right? With an early montage.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Early montage. Oh, right at the start of the show? Right in the cold open. Right. That's right, in the cold open. And also the band does the sting out of the cold open. So it usually goes, I can't do this. So I believe the band does an acapella version of like that, right?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Don't they do like, But that's it. Yeah. Do you remember when Family Ties used to change like the song every year? It would always be the same song, but it would be a different version of it. Oh, I don't remember that. Yeah. Do you remember when Family Ties used to change the song every year? They did? It would always be the same song, but it would be a different version of it. Yes. Oh, I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. A Different World used to do that, too. A different credit sequence, but they changed the song? It would be the same song, but a different version of the song. I believe so. Maybe it was a different credit sequence, and maybe that's what it was. I just remember a different world used to change it up. We tried to change our credit sequence once and the fans revolted.
Starting point is 00:40:47 That did not go well. The fans were like, no way. Fuck that new credit sequence. What the fuck are y'all doing? Get that shit out. The whole idea was to add Neil because Neil had become a regular. Right. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:40:59 We know he's a regular. We don't care. You know, fans are very loyal to certain things and they definitely did not want their beloved credit sequence being fucked with. So we see the beautiful Kate McCoochie being introduced. She's singing a lovely song to the kids in pediatrics, way more appropriate than Fear the Reaper. Do you remember shooting your first, that scene? I do. Do you have any memories of that?
Starting point is 00:41:27 I remember shooting that, and that's a little song I wrote. I used to babysit a ton, and it was one of the first songs I ever wrote on ukulele called Mr. Moon. I was so flattered that they wanted to use so many of my songs, and in later episodes, I even wrote specifically for the episode. But yeah, I remember being like, yeah, Mr. Moon would be a great song for the kids. And I still play. I just played it the other day
Starting point is 00:41:49 at the Bob Baker Marionette Theater. It's an old standby at this point. Can you play a little bit of it for us? Oh, you want to hear Mr. Moon? Just a little bit. You don't have to play the whole song. Just give us a little something. Sure.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Well, oh, look, how funny. I have my ukulele right here. Was that just sitting there? It was like, audience, she pulled it like someone might pull an arrow out of a quiver off of her back. Okay, here's a little bit of Mr. Moon, all right. All right, great. One day, the moon got tired of being
Starting point is 00:42:22 Up in the sky, he wandered Down through the starlight and landed on the ocean side. And he smiled while he jumped in the water and laughed about as he danced in the sand. He put on his swim trunks and snorkel and guess what? Mr. Moon swam. Oh my gosh, yes. I love it when you sing. Thunderous applause, Daniel. Thunderous applause. Thank you. I love it when you sing applause daniel okay i love it when you sing it's just seeing you do it is so cute too because you like switch into a little like ukulele mode it's so
Starting point is 00:42:54 cute it's so funny that i just i i mean it's crazy to me that the ukulele was just something i kind of like picked up for fun and then i did never I never thought it would be the thing I was like always playing but were you always singing were you always singing oh my gosh no I like I actually don't think of myself like I'm not a great singer I have a range I think you have a great voice it's very unique too sweet I think the combination of the ukulele and your voice and and of course they wanted to use your songs because they're funny and they're clever and they were never going to write something as perfect as and and and bespoke for you as you could do you know yeah thank thank you i think here's a fun ukulele fact um is in 2008 the uh sale of the ukulele went up 300 percent oh wow because of me being Velma, according to my calculations.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I wonder why. Do you think it was you on Scrubs? I mean, I don't think. I think maybe I helped that by 5% or so. You contributed. I'm going to give you all 80 of it. Well, we also used, what was the name of the, wasn't there a famous ukulele player, a Hawaiian guy? Did he play the ukulele?
Starting point is 00:44:04 Oh, Brother Is? Israel Kamakabivaole. Yes, that was a big deal for sure for the ukulele player a hawaiian guy did he play the ukulele oh brother is israel kamaka viva ole yes that was a big deal for sure for the ukulele yeah i remember that i think we used one of his uh songs probably somewhere over the rainbow he had that version yeah well it was it's not his song but it's his cover that they used yes actually with sam's band we had do was Sam's band. We had Ted's band did a cover of his version. Okay, so Cox has taught his son to call JD's baby ugly. So that's new. For those of you who have kids, that's not a great moment. Baby's ugly.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah, not a great moment. Maybe it's ugly. Yeah, not a good moment. Basically, one of the main things of this story, of this episode, is that Cox is so busy, but he's trying to do it all. He's trying to be the chief of medicine. He's trying to give his favorite patients bedside attention. He's trying to be a father. Are you a do-it-all kind of guy, Zach? Well, I don't have a full family, and I don't work a—
Starting point is 00:45:05 Okay, let's take the family part out, and let's take the nine-to-five out. Are you a do-it-all kind of guy? I'm going to say yes. I think so. I'm going to say yes. Because all I can point to is when I make my projects, I definitely try and do as much of it as possible because it's so important to me. Dude, you can do it all the way down to the soundtrack, bro. All the way down to the soundtrack, bro. All the way down to the soundtrack, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Thank you. I wish I could play the ukulele. Actually, I play the ukulele. Only one song I learned to play when I was in Bullets Over Broadway. My entrance into the play was rising through the stage on a fake roof, playing the ukulele. What was the song? Love makes me treat you the way that I do.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Gee, baby, ain't I good to you? There's nothing to do to the girl that is true. Gee, baby, ain't I good to you? You know, see how quickly that shit goes away from you? I forgot the words. But I used to know the chords on the uke and everything. Would you rise through the stage? Is that what it was?
Starting point is 00:46:05 That was your entrance? Yeah, it was like a very big, large budget Broadway show. And they had these lifts. They had these lifts, multiple lifts that would come up. And so it was pretty cool. It was a full 27-piece orchestra. And my ukulele was miked, along with myself, obviously. And me and Betsy Wolfe, amazing Broadway singer,
Starting point is 00:46:23 rose on this set piece that was made to look like a New York City rooftop. And we rose singing that song. It was really cool. Can I ask, I'm just like, I love the theater. What was your thought? Like when you're like sitting on that roof, waiting for it to be like. So nervous. No one's ever asked me that question.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I'll tell you something. Betsy and I, she got mad at me one time because Betsy Wolf is the kind of person that will show up basically these little light they have these cue lights right and when the cue light would go on that would mean like stand by the lift's gonna move and then when we go off the lift's about to rise and betsy's the kind of person that i would go down there for the whole opening scene because it was the second scene and just kind of pace nervously underneath the stage and talk to the stage hands and shoot the shit just to be there betsy's the kind of person that would show up the second the light
Starting point is 00:47:08 lit up, meaning like the lift's about to go up. And so often I was so anxious because I was like, where is she? Oh, she's going to miss the cue. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh, where is she? But it's nerve wracking. And then you see, you got, you get in position and then they, the thing starts to move and then you go up and it just reveals 3,000 people standing there. It's pretty crazy. That is so, I love that. It's so fun to think about. And yeah, I would be, I'd be so scared.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I was nervous also. I think if it was the beginning of the show, it would have been less nerve wracking, but because it was the second scene, you had a whole first scene to be like pacing about. Right. But it was pretty cool. If I never do another Broadway musical. Yeah, also you had to play the ukulele. But it was pretty cool. If I never do another Broadway musical.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Yeah, also you had to play the ukulele. So there was that too. I think they had a guy. I think that I did the best I could. I think they had a guy doubling me in the orchestra. I'm pretty sure they had a guitar under you like this. No, I think it was probably. No, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I'm sure it was a guitar player in the band that was on you just doubling me to make it sound better because I certainly wasn't going to hit every note right every time. Well, you did the night I saw the show. I was very impressed. They probably turned the volume on mine down to zero and put his on 10. Love makes me treat you
Starting point is 00:48:17 the way... You can listen to the song, by the way. If you go on Spotify or wherever you listen to music, the Bullets Over Broadway... That was your shot and he got right there. All that shit had to do was win the fucking award for best revival. No, it was original. It was an original play. Oh, so best original.
Starting point is 00:48:34 That's all it had to do. And that was your shot. That was your E got shot. The music. I hope to do another Broadway show. So maybe I'll have another chance at the T and E got. No, because if it's a record. listen, this is why it's dope. If it's a record and it wins for Broadway, you already got the Grammy.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Never mind. You already got the Grammy. You already got the Grammy. But anyway, long-winded way of saying that if you're curious about this song, you can go on and look at the Bullets Over Broadway original cast album, and you can find the song. Love Makes Me Treat You. I think it's called G-Baby Ain't I Good to You. All right. broadway uh um original cast album and you can find the song love makes me treat you i think it's called g baby ain't i good to you all right we're gonna take a quick break and we'll come back uh right after these fine words fuck your sound effects machine if you've been following the news
Starting point is 00:49:18 you know that from health care access to safe schools l LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers. Probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey with so many of you. There's something so authentic about a podcast. It's me connecting, me talking raw in the moment. That's what my goal is to give you, to talk about why I feel that cancer to a certain extent is a gift, what my responsibilities are as a person with cancer, because I think that there's something so much bigger than me. And to be honest, I'm still trying to find out what that is. And maybe together, we'll find it.
Starting point is 00:51:09 It's going to be a wild ride. So I hope that you all tune in. Listen to Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michael B. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michael B. Jordan and you can listen to it right now. Michael is known for his
Starting point is 00:51:32 performances in both film and television. His breakout role was in Fruitvale Station, playing Oscar Grant, which earned him widespread praise and numerous award nominations. His portrayal of Killmonger in Marvel's Black Panther, one of my favorites, further solidified his status as one of Hollywood's leading actors, earning him widespread acclaim for his complex and compelling performance. In our conversation, Michael really opens up. You're going to love listening to it, and I can't wait for you to check it out. The closest to getting what you want is always the hardest.
Starting point is 00:52:05 It's always the feeling when you're getting ready. People give up right before they get what they've always wanted to get. People quit. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back! And we're back. And we're back. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:28 So we learned that Jordan takes naps from 1130 to three. That's some new information. I appreciate that. Yeah. In my old age. Not my old age. I take that back. I'm not old.
Starting point is 00:52:41 But as I get older. Can you take a midday nap and then snap back if you smoke enough weed you can okay what if you don't smoke weed if you don't smoke i'm gonna have a hard time doing that no i just find i do like an occasional midday nap but it's hard to bounce back sometimes you mean when you wake up you didn't like you didn't like acting like right after you wakingoken up from a nap? Well, on Scrubs, because the hours were so cuckoo, I would definitely, we would, Donald and I would both take naps and then we'd drink Red Bulls to get our energy up.
Starting point is 00:53:14 No, but I like the feel. I would say, I remember early on in my career and sitting on set and waiting, I liked the feeling of falling asleep in my trailer and waking up and going directly donald they're ready for you and going directly to set just like not thinking about anything not overthinking anything and going right to set and going to work i really i felt really early on i felt really creative about that and so when you talked about naps and how you need how you felt groggy and everything yeah on sets i definitely have to definitely sometimes take a lunchtime nap just because you're so groggy. But then I always have to pound a Red Bull to do CPR to my brain to get back in the game.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Okay, so Kelso. Well, before we get to Aziz, Kelso brings Cox a latte. They have a secret friendship now. But everybody knows about it. Yeah, everyone seems to know about it. We learned that Harrison, Kelso's son Harrison, has a new life partner, Caleb, and he's just opened a boutique on Fire Island called Everything Mesh. That's such a good line.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Everything Mesh is pretty funny. On Fire Island. I bet a store called Everything Mesh on Fire Island would do pretty well. Fire Island is one of the most popular islands in the history of islands, dude. In the history of islands. Like, think about it. It's in everything. Everybody knows about Fire Island.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Everybody's been to Fire Island. As I understand it, I've never been to Fire Island, but it's a very big gay community. A lot of mosquitoes. Very popular with the gay community. It's a place to go where there's a big gay scene. We don't have Joelle in here to weigh in as our gay ambassador. You are correct, though.
Starting point is 00:55:01 As our gay ambassador. Yes. But that's why Harrison has a shop there, Donald, called Just Mesh. Everything mesh. Yes, I know this. We meet Craig, who is J.D.'s patient who has Down syndrome. And he's one of Johnny C., Dr. Cox's favorite patients. And J.D. is looking after him.
Starting point is 00:55:22 But Cox really wants to be there because he loves this young man, and he wants to, you know, he doesn't want to let any of his beloved patients down. He's really struggling. Craig wants a root beer, so JD goes to get a root beer. There's only two left, and the janitor has licked the root beer can. He's probably licked both of them, to be honest with you. Yes, he definitely licked both of them. And then we learn that he also licked JD's cell phone.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Why? I think he just hates JD. So anything he, although this is probably. But there's a team up. Five seconds later, there's a team up, though. The first team up ever. Well, they both share a common love of Ted. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And I think they both see that ted finally likes a woman ted's finally going to have a chance at some some tiny bit of happiness and that they're going to team up which is bizarre because i don't think this is the first team up ever this has to be in eight seasons what is what is wiki dude think scrub's wiki i don't think he spoke directly i looked i don't think he says anything specifically about the team up. Oh, it is a reference. Ted mentions that ukulele players
Starting point is 00:56:32 are usually heavy Hawaiians. This is likely a reference to Israel, and I don't know how to say his last name. I don't know either. Daniel, didn't you say it? I think it's Kamaka Viva Ole.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Wow. Nice pull. Have you guys been watching Dance Moms? No, why would any of us watch Dance Moms? What say it? I think it's Camaca Viva Ole. Wow. Nice pull. Have you guys been watching Dance Moms? No. Why would any of us watch Dance Moms? What is it? Dance Moms? Oh, Dance Moms. No. Go back and watch it. Oh my God, it's the best show on the planet. Is it? There's so much good
Starting point is 00:56:55 TV and Donald's watching Dance Moms. Yeah, man. Yo, I'm going to tell you something right now. The moms on this show, you think, look, we all know about, because we're all in the entertainment industry, you know about momagers. You know about, I used to go on auditions and see kids with their moms and their moms giving them the ultimate pep talk of, you know, you better nail this shit or you don't eat type stuff. I've seen it. Watch Dance Moms.
Starting point is 00:57:24 They trump all of that. They trump it all. Okay. Look, I think that's the rewatch podcast after we finish. It's definitely not. I think that's the rewatch podcast. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Don't worry, audience. It's definitely not. Please. All right. So Ted chickens out and hits his head in glorious fashion. And he's riding his bike home and he says, cherish the pain, Ted ted it means you're still alive um the janitor as we said decides to team up with jd um we learned that jd uh was fooled
Starting point is 00:57:57 by cox and flew to the ozarks for a spontaneous water ski getaway. And when he's asked, was he there? He said he was not there. Nor was his lakeside cabin. JD really falls for anything that Cox tells him. Isn't that how the show opens up? With him going to... Oh, and JD also says there had also been talk of a tire swing. What do you mean, how the show opens up?
Starting point is 00:58:30 Isn't there something where he tries to trick him, where he tricks him into going back outside and knocking, and he knocks on the door? Oh, yeah, and he gets locked out. And he's locked out? Yeah. Why is the Gooch holding a banana? I wonder.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah, by the way very very inappropriate introduction i thought the same thing i was like wow yeah kate do you remember on the day thinking really guys a banana no i don't remember that but uh i totally that it caught me by surprise uh there were two things that caught me by surprise yesterday when i was re-watching it that and then the last scene which i guess we'll get to but um I totally, it caught me by surprise. There were two things that caught me by surprise yesterday when I was rewatching it. That and then the last scene, which I guess we'll get to. But yeah, the banana was a really funny choice.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I just love that someone was like, what if she's holding a banana? It's like so obviously suggestive, like the most blatant thing. I had a friend that said, it's so embarrassing to eat a banana in public. And I thought that's so funny. That's true.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I agree a hundred percent. How you eat a banana tells a lot about you. Donald, when you eat a banana, do you? I break that shit off. I break it. You break it off. I break it off. Throw it in the tall grass.
Starting point is 00:59:40 No, Ali, listen. I'm not afraid. I love bananas actually. I'm not afraid to eat a banana straight up. I love bananas. I love bananas. When you do eat not afraid to eat a banana straight up. I love bananas. I love bananas. When you do eat a banana, either in public or private, have you ever seen how much of it you can get down before you gag?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Absolutely. You haven't? Wait a second. I'm always curious. You haven't? Kate, I'm sorry you had to hear this. Oh, it's fine. I'm here for all this.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I get nervous, though, because if it breaks, do you die? You don't want to swallow it whole, die? you don't want to swallow it whole Donald you don't want to swallow it well you can choke on it as a child I once tried to swallow a grape hole
Starting point is 01:00:11 and I remember thinking I'm going to die like yeah I remember I put a freaking which I'm going to call it a popcorn seed kernel
Starting point is 01:00:18 up my nose yeah you stored it in it? no I put it up there thinking oh this looks like it's a nice cozy place and I couldn't get it out couldn't get it out how'd I put it up there thinking, oh, this looks like it's a nice cozy place. And I couldn't get it out.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Couldn't get it out. How'd you get it out? What happened? My uncle came and took that shit out. My uncle came and freaking found a way to pop that thing out. I would have gotten a vacuum. Oh, man. Cox finally sits Ed down. Enough with his laziness.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Now, spoiler alert, they had to fire aziz because he had been cast in parks and rec so this gave them a good reason and a good storyline to tee up that you know what if you don't perform there is a point where you get fired and aziz's character ed is so not present and lazy and basically it was a complete though, from what his character was before. His character might have been lazy, but his character was adequate and efficient. And now, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, this dude's freaking online with his buddies playing trivial games instead of learning how to save people. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:26 That is right, Donald. And it was initially that he's so smart he doesn't even need to study. And now Cox is like, you don't know the answers. Sit here and memorize this book on hearts. Interesting. That is a tweak. That's because he had to go. But I think it's good they show that you can be fired if you're a shitty doctor and
Starting point is 01:01:46 don't show up and don't don't hold your own it takes a lot for somebody to fire you and then also but look at least it took a lot for bill to fire people he didn't like to do it no he didn't love firing people no one likes firing people but it's you you got to be careful that um people that aren't good are stuck doing their jobs. Well, Aziz was great, and it was dope to have him on the show. Aziz was amazing. Aziz would have been on a long time, I bet, but he got Parks and Rec. So we, oh, this is a famous meme I've seen so many times about Ted,
Starting point is 01:02:20 when someone says, we found you in the park throwing rocks at old couples. And he says, why should they be happy? This is the whole episode where the janitor talks about the duck. Yes, this is one of Bill's favorite jokes. Oh my God, that is such an amazing, I watched it twice. I had to rewind it.
Starting point is 01:02:40 It was so good. Neil made that all up, obviously. What? I just saw Bill last night and he, I told him that we were doing this episode and he just started cracking up and going into the whole improv that Neil came up with about fighting the duck. I can't believe that was an improv. That's incredible. He totally made it up on the spot. Wow. And he's fighting a duck. I think that I forgot if it made the show or not, but when Bill
Starting point is 01:03:06 did it, he was saying that he says we both took our shirts off as if to say the duck was wearing a shirt. A shirt, yeah. Wow. And yeah, so that's just crazy Neil being funny, but that's definitely in this episode too.
Starting point is 01:03:24 We also learned the janitor makes something called jum, which is jum and tonic, which is gin, rum, and tonic. And then he says to Ted that he- Well, he's like, you can't give him alcohol. He's like, it's not alcohol. It's a breakfast liqueur. Yeah, that's right. And then he says—his advice is give her a present that you made.
Starting point is 01:03:57 My first date with Lady, I made her a duck that I killed. Oh, my gosh. This is when he talks about how he got in a fight with the duck. Then Ted tries to stand up and he's hammered and the janitor says, those are jum legs. What adult would leave
Starting point is 01:04:17 a kid like that? I mean, why is the kid on a busy road? That's right. Who dropped the kid off there? It's not, okay, I get it. Dr. Cox was supposed to pick his child up.
Starting point is 01:04:28 He missed the opportunity because he's busy doing so many things. Things like that, I hope never happened to me with my kids, but I could see how something like that would happen. But who is the asshole that's like, all right, now, get out the car and you stay right here on this corner with these busy cars while i leave you to do the rest of my day i know or i i assume yeah i was nervous just even watching the kid knowing that there was obviously tons of adults around it was just nerve-wracking to watch it crazy who does that nobody nobody they just be mad at you when you get there i had shit to do but your kid and you jd and and the janitor throw ted in the elevator with gooch yes and
Starting point is 01:05:19 and when the elevator door opens uh uh kate, they ask you what's going on, and you say something like he's hiding in the corner. Yeah. And then he's just in the corner. I remember when we were shooting this, and I was like, this is so weird. And then you're like, have you seen our show? I love that an actor coming in to do like a recurring part is like, is this too weird?
Starting point is 01:05:47 I mean, the man's just hiding in the corner of an elevator. We're like, no, have you watched this show? Anything goes. But then you come out and you. He says, he says, the janitor goes, yeah, he does this often. He'll come out in a second when he feels like the coast is clear. And he comes out after looking around like a little animal, looking to see if it's safe.
Starting point is 01:06:07 And he comes out and then finally stands up and gets the nerve to finally talk to Gooch. Right. But he gets the nerve by calling the peons. Peons assemble. Right. That gives him his superpower. That's where his power shows up.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And what song did you guys sing? I forgot there. Carry On My Wayward Son. Oh, yeah. Is that the title of the song? Dude, I learned that song through rock band. That's how I learned that. Oh, I remember that rock band.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Yeah. It's Kansas. I just looked it up. I remember one of my favorite, I have so many really clear memories from shooting this episode, but we were in the stairwell of the hospital practicing, all of us.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And it just sounded so cool because it was all echoey and these guys were so good. And then there I was with my ukulele and like singing along with them. And I just remember feeling like my heart was so full. I was like this, like it doesn't get better than this. Like practicing, we're just about to shoot this thing.
Starting point is 01:07:07 These guys are so good. Like, it was just a really great moment. I still remember it. Do they make electric ukuleles? Yeah, have one. Like, that sound like electric guitars, kind of? You want to see one of them? Yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Oh, wait, okay, hang on. We'll have to describe it to the audience, because this is not a visual production. I'm excited. So am I, man. I'm excited for Daniel to remix Scrubs' music song. Holy cow, look at that. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:32 So it looks like a, I guess it looks like a Fender. It looks like a tiny electric guitar is what it looks like. It's a brand called Ella Uke. They gave it to me a long time ago. I don't know. It actually has batteries, but I don't think the batteries are in it right now, but I've, I've messed around with it.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And like, you can just like, you know, put a pedal on it and like a, you know, make some crazy sounds. Cause you have fast hands. I was wondering if you've ever done solos,
Starting point is 01:07:56 like on the ukulele. I bet we can YouTube and search for people doing insane solos on the electric guitar. Dude, I found a dude doing the Ewok song from Return of the Jedi on YouTube. On ukulele. Oh, that's cool. I think it's ukulele. You keep saying ukulele. I think it's either either.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Oh, really? I think because in- You're the expert. Tell us. Is it, you can say ukulele? I think in Hawaii they say ukulele. Oh, Donald you can say ukulele? I think in Hawaii they say ukulele. Oh, Donald. You say ukulele.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I say ukulele. Donald, did you know that on purpose that you were using the Hawaiian pronunciation? I did. No, you didn't. But yeah, no, but I found. but yeah no but I found yuck nub yuck nub
Starting point is 01:08:49 yuck nub yuck nub hallelujah do you know the whole song no I'm surprised I'm just making up sounds the only part I remember
Starting point is 01:09:06 and I think we've talked about this on the podcast is that all of a sudden you and I have joked about this it's in Iwaki's and then it cuts to celebrate the life which we surmised that there was no Iwaki's for celebrate the life
Starting point is 01:09:22 they all of a sudden could speak English celebrate the life they all of a sudden could speak english celebrate the life i think it goes yub nub it chicky why why celebrate the life yeah no but then they changed the music completely to something else see if there's a recording session of this on youtube like you know that would be amazing i would love to see a bunch of grown folks in a room banging drums i think they're speaking i don't know i think they might be speaking uh actually in an african language actually the ewoks i could be wrong but i would love to look that up for i'm googling at this very moment dan dan what can you
Starting point is 01:09:58 look up the origins of the ewok language daniel swahili or something like that ewok speak their native language of ewok isee, is a fictional language created for the film. I got it right. Oh, it's created. Daniel, can you Google the lyrics to the end song and am I right in saying... So now I don't feel bad making fun of it because it's
Starting point is 01:10:20 made up for the movie, so I could say and not offend anybody. Daniel, can you confirm that in the lyrics to the final Ewoks It's made up for the movie, so I could say it and not offend anybody. Yum, num. Da-da-da-da-da! Daniel, can you confirm that in the lyrics to the final Ewok song that Celebrate the Life is the only English in the song? Sure. Thank you. Imagine if they're like Bad Bunny and they just sneak English words in the song. You listen to Bad Bunny at all?
Starting point is 01:10:43 No. You don't listen to Bad Bunny? I mean, don't listen to that i mean i know the big hit that's always on the top baby you don't listen to that no i only listen to kate's music all right well you know well then we got accepted i really wanted to get to what daniel what are you learning uh his face just lit up there is no celebrate the life in the song. I was going to say, well, that is the lyric.
Starting point is 01:11:08 It's actually celebrate the light. Celebrate the light. But also all of the, all the lyrics are apparently in Ewokies, but there's an English translation. I'm telling you, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Hold on. Time out. I've been dying to know what they're singing in this song. I mean, please just read it. The English mean Please just read the English translation Just one verse please Freedom we got freedom And now that we can be free
Starting point is 01:11:31 Come on and celebrate No way no stop Stop You know that's what they write Freedom We got freedom And now that we can be free, come and celebrate power.
Starting point is 01:11:47 We got power. And now that we can be free, it's time to celebrate, celebrate the freedom, celebrate the power, celebrate the glory, celebrate the love. Yum. Duh.
Starting point is 01:11:58 What's yum. No, I'm just, I just inserted that for flavor, but it is. Celebrate the life. Yub nub. Yub nub must mean celebrate.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Freedom. No, yub nub is freedom. Yub nub freedom. Actually, yeah, it is. Yub nub is freedom. Wow. Told you. Nice, Donald.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Good work. All right, yub nub is freedom. I'm fluent in Ewokese. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words.
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Starting point is 01:13:18 It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, G1O, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers, probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey with so many of you. There's something so authentic about a podcast. It's me connecting, me talking raw in the moment. That's what my goal is to give you, to talk about why I feel that cancer to a certain extent is a gift, what my responsibilities are as a person with cancer, because I think that there's something
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Starting point is 01:15:22 People quit. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kate, would you honor us by singing this song, the Fuck You song? Oh, yeah, sure. I'll do, you know, I'll just do both parts. It's a duet.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Oh, it's a duet. Well, if you wouldn't mind doing both parts. Yeah, and yeah, sure. I'll do, you know, I'll just do both parts. It's a duet, but. Oh, it's a duet. Well, if you wouldn't mind doing both parts. Yeah, and yeah, I'll. But then you can't harmonize. Well, she can't harmonize with herself, but. Yeah, it would be hard. Has anyone ever harmonized with themselves, Kate? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Without electronic recording equipment? It has like an interesting vocal chord or something. I don't know. I'd love to see that. All right. Well, here is Fuck You by Kate Micucci. All right. This one goes out to Sam.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Oh, sweet. I've got so many questions in my mind And I've got too many questions in my mind, and I've got too many answers to find. Can I give up all I've imagined? Am I magical enough for this to happen? Because I like you, I like you, I like you, I like you. Cause I like you, I like you, I like you, I like you And like can lead to like, like And like, like can lead to love
Starting point is 01:16:50 Sure as the stars above I'd really like to screw you Oh, oh Can I be the man you are looking for? Can I be your girl forevermore? I'll try real hard not to lose her. I'll try to be less of a loser because I like you, I like you, I like you, I like you. And like can lead to like like And like like can lead to love Sure as the stars above I really like to doink you
Starting point is 01:17:30 Bang you Nail you Sex you Screw you Yes! I love when you do the high When you do that high note It makes me smile every
Starting point is 01:17:40 Love! Thanks, because I really can't quite hit it Oh, it's so sweet. Kate, you should write a musical. Oh, thank you. I mean, someday, maybe. It is a dream of mine. I really think that.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Just listening to you then, I thought, because you're a funny, talented lyricist and musician, you can do both, and they're storytelling songs. I really think that you'd be such a good creator of a musical. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely something I want to do,
Starting point is 01:18:08 so I appreciate that. Well, Donald and I will do the play reading. Go for yours! When you're ready, Donald and I will do the play reading. Okay, perfect.
Starting point is 01:18:15 And if there's a moment for me to rise to the stage playing the yook, I will do that as well. On a roof, yes. On a rooftop. I'm willing to expand to other set pieces,
Starting point is 01:18:24 but I do want to come through the stage. Perfect. Well, thank you. Thanks for letting me do that. We should go back and talk about how that all comes from. You got Ted and, and Gooch rehearsing together all the time.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah. And Ted coming in, running in and saying, yo dude, I think she likes me. And they're like, how do you know she likes you? And then we flash back to this moment. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And then she comes in, and then Gooch comes in again and asks Ted to go to coffee, and Ted calls the peons. I mean, it's such great storytelling, man. He calls the peons. This was, I mean, it's such great storytelling, man. He calls the peons. And she was like, well, I was kind of just thinking it would be you and me. And he looks back and it's that look back of, you know, I don't need you guys. I want you here. And they look at him like, you're going to be okay. But then they have no place to go after.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Like, it's such a great moment. And then, you know, this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. It's one of the best meet-cutes on Scrubs. I mean, Turk and Carla got the best one. But, you know, after that. It's very sweet. And instantly you just root for them. You just root for these two.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Right away. Yeah. Because everyone wants people to be in love. And especially someone who's as socially awkward and timid as the character of Ted, you're like, oh, come on, I want love for him. This is so exciting. You just get invested, you know? You just want something more than the tragedy that was, you know. Kelso. Yeah. I remember being very nervous for that scene. Like I said, this was like very early on for me. And so
Starting point is 01:20:01 it was like a longer scene than the other ones had been so i was like okay i've got i've got dialogue here i've got to get this right and i remember thinking every time we did a take i was like why why are my eyes all messed up why are my eyes all messed up and i was so nervous i wasn't blinking it's like all right blink i find myself doing that in scenes too weird but it's not blinking i'll sometimes just freeze in a position and hold a position for like way too long. I'll be like, I should have put my hands down.
Starting point is 01:20:33 But then you're like, oh, I just did that for, I know I've got to be doing this. Right. Now I got it right. For every take, I have to hold it here.
Starting point is 01:20:39 That's true. You have to kind of commit to what you did. Yeah. Which is so frustrating sometimes. Cause you're like, why did I do that? Right. And you second guess your, yeah, but you know, it's the work. The work is the work. I want to say one funny, interesting thing that most people wouldn't get is that Krista has this necklace that she wears in her real life that is the letters of all her children. Each one is a little charm of all her children. Each one is a little charm of all her children.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And I noticed that she was wearing it in one of these scenes walking down the hallway and the H was on top, these stacked charms. H for Henry was the one that was stacked on top. Just a tiny thing I noticed that most people, not even Scrubs Wiki would notice. That's so sweet. Yeah, so Henry, she was wearing a Henry,
Starting point is 01:21:24 basically a Henry charm necklace for her son. You know, this episode really does show you, you know, because Cox, he really tries to do it all on his own. And he fails at the end. And he fails at the one thing that he really, really cares about the most. And that's being with his son and being able to read his son a bedtime story at night.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yeah. And if he would just, you know, accept the help. You know, he bends a little bit and he takes, you know, he allows Carla to help with the schedule. But if he would have just gave her the schedule in the first place, maybe that would have been off the plate. But because he has to do everything, he missed the one thing. He sacrifices the one thing that he enjoys doing the most. The reason why he, you know, works in the hospital and does what he does to, you know. And it was, it's really, it's paced over really fast.
Starting point is 01:22:21 But at that moment, I've come home and the kids have been asleep and been like you know shit that was i was hoping to i was hoping to catch them and the disappointment uh but yeah man that was a really interesting that was it was it's it's a relatable moment and it's also the show in in a nutshell you can't do this by yourself. Yeah, that's the whole show. I can't do this all on my own. It's the whole premise, thesis, statement of the show. I just got chills thinking about it. That's really sweet.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I also was thinking, as you were saying that, Donald, that I bet Bill was thinking about all this because being a showrunner is like being the chief of medicine. You're in charge of everything, and every department is asking for your attention in editing, in writing, in production where they're shooting actively, in wardrobe for next week's costumes, in location scouting for next week's location. Everyone is pulling you in every single direction and you have to delegate. And also Bill has and had three children and a wife. to delegate. And also Bill has and had three children and a wife. So I couldn't help but think as I was watching this thinking, gosh, he's writing this for Cox, but it also really
Starting point is 01:23:31 overlaps with his own life. I've always thought that Cox and Bill are pretty much the same character. Not like outright. But yeah, you know, I mean, the relationship that they have with JD is kind of the relation, Jordan and Cox, I'm saying, it's kind, the relationship that they have with JD is kind of the relation, Jordan and Cox, I'm saying, is kind of the relationship that they have with everybody. They're so sincere and so loving and so grateful. But it comes with a bit of, you know, I don't want to say I don't want to misuse the word, but it comes with a bit of snark. It comes with a bit of, you know, it's not tough love. it comes it comes with a jab here and there you know what i mean you ever hear you talk to bill you have conversations with bill he'll make fun of you a couple of times and you'll be like oh that was tough but it's all coming from love
Starting point is 01:24:18 but he's softened so much from back from back then quite a bit but i feel like when he writes cox and jd that's him i feel like cox is his reflection of how he is to everybody in some ways like it's like i don't want to really fuck with y'all but i do fuck with y'all because i love you but you know i'd prefer it if you know yeah you'd give me my space and let me have my wall up yeah but he's dropped that completely i remember when he didn't hug i remember when he didn't he used to not he used to not hug and you have to be like dude we're we're me and donald we're like we're huggers dude you're gonna have to drop this because we need to hug you right now he's a big hugger yeah he's a huge hugger now it took many years long time long time well um that's pretty much the show kate this has been so fun and thank
Starting point is 01:25:03 you so much how by the way how do people who want to hear your music, tell them how they could find you and your band. How do they find you singing? Oh, yeah. I think mostly just on Spotify. I mean, Garfunkel Notes, we have a ton of YouTube videos. But we also have albums on Spotify. I have some solo music on Spotify.
Starting point is 01:25:21 I'm going to have a new album of songs coming out in September. But yeah, so I mean, I don't know. I'm always making songs. Well, that's how you find Kate's music. Garfunkel and Oates or Kate Micucci, spelled, spell it Kate. M-I-C-U-C-C-I. Oh, I was going to tell you this funny story real quick. Please do.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Go do it. So I'm in New York City like a month ago and I'm running because we're rushing to get we had to go to the airport and I see this guy selling t-shirts and instead of Gucci it said Cucci. C-U-C-C-I. And a lot of people call me Cucci or you know which is funny because this character is Gooch but and I said hold on does that say Cuccichie and he's like no it says Gucci and I was like no I want it to say Coochie and he goes yeah that's Coochie
Starting point is 01:26:11 I have to buy it it's like the best $20 I've ever spent it's my favorite t-shirt so it's like the Gucci font but it's a C? Exactly that's hilarious Donald you could rock that. Listen, man, I have no problem
Starting point is 01:26:27 rocking coochie on my shirt. Are you thinking about your outfit for the live show? Daniel's already thinking about his. This is getting real. It's getting real. And you're starting to talk about things that are... I'm not at my fighting weight yet.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah, well, you have eight days to get to your fighting weight. I need to get on that. Are you going to go on a cleanse? You want to know what I'm going to do? Get high and eat Doritos. I'm not going to smoke weed for the whole week. Yeah, right. Here it is, folks.
Starting point is 01:26:59 You heard it here live. Yeah, right. Are you really committing to this? This is how you get skinny. Are you real fast? The audience is going to ask you live in Seattle if you lied to them. heard it here live. Yeah, right. Are you really committing to this? This is how you get skinny. It is. Are you really committing to this? The audience is going to ask you live in Seattle if you lied to them. They'll see the proof is in the motherfucking pudding, Seattle.
Starting point is 01:27:13 There it is. There it is, Seattle. All right. Well, this airs on Tuesday. This airs on Tuesday. So, Seattle, we will see you this Saturday at the Moore Theater. That's going to be a lot of fun. Please check out A Good Person, which is now available to rent only for $5.99. Everywhere you watch movies, check it out on Apple or Amazon or Vudu or wherever you rent movies, you can get it
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