Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 817: My Chief Concern

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

On this week's episode, JD announces he's moving. Turk and Dr. Cox struggle to express their feelings about it. In the real world, Zach and Donald finally tell us what working with Jason Mamoa was lik...e. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Look at your fabulous glasses are they great fabulous who makes that jacket zach what's that that's a really cool jacket who makes that jacket i put on a fit for y'all today now my first question i'll tell you who makes the jacket okay don't yell at me jesus buck mason buck mason everyone you need this jacket buck mason rules rules here's my question do you guys think I can pull off the pink I'm wearing a pink
Starting point is 00:02:08 Pepto Bismol sweatshirt audience I'm trying it out what do we think you look great I love it you look very T-Mobile yeah
Starting point is 00:02:15 do you think Joel if you if you saw a man or a woman that you were attracted to and they were wearing a pink color like this would you say
Starting point is 00:02:24 hold up hold up you've already you've already you're so gaslighting or a woman that you were attracted to and they were wearing a pink color like this, would you say? Hold up, hold up, hold up. You've already, you've already, you're so gaslighting right now. Joelle, if you saw a man that you were attracted to wearing a pink. How am I gaslighting?
Starting point is 00:02:38 I'm just asking. Okay, let me reframe. Let me read it the way this may be. Let me rephrase. Do you think men can pull off this color? I do I do I love the color pink
Starting point is 00:02:50 I think it's worth it How great would it have been if she was like Fuck no That would have been crazy You like it I can Of course Pink is a lovely color
Starting point is 00:03:04 Flowers are pink Lots of great things are pink course pink is a lovely color flowers are pink lots of great things are pink okay it's a beautiful color i don't know why people get weird about it it is it is weird that people get like i don't get it either like i like pink i remember i wore pink once and uh it was a pink sweater i thought it was a lovely pink polo sweater and the reaction i got was like whoa what year was it but it wasn't it was like a long ago she's asking how long ago was it was it like it was well over you know 16 before i think we've evolved for the most part hopefully i think pink maybe has evolved right because barbie do you ever well forget well i guess you can't forget barbie but i mean like my my point is is like do you ever go buy something that you're like this
Starting point is 00:03:51 is so outside what i would normally wear but i want to try it out and then and then you're kind of staring at it in your closet like my is today gonna be the day i'm gonna try it it's gucci dude it's the gucci that's the guc I bought, look, okay, so here's my issue. I buy clothes, and then I don't wear them because I'm like, that's too nice. I cannot get this dirty. I cannot. You know what I mean? Like, I have this phobia, right?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Right. And so I was in Vegas with Zach, and I might have made a little money on that blackjack table. And I said, you know, with my winnings, I'm going to treat myself. Yeah. And I got a little Gucci. And I put it on. And oh my goodness gracious,
Starting point is 00:04:38 I was walking around Vegas of all places where, you know, you get dirty real quick in Vegas with the Gucci on. I think if you're going to rock Gucci, Vegas is probably the spot. Definitely. I didn't feel out of place. That's for sure. You looked very handsome.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I was with you. You looked good. Now, I've been seeing you do a lot of press, and you've been rocking those Gucci sneakers. Yeah. So for Christmas, my best friend got me some Gucci kicks. Yeah. They look good on you on you too don't they I've been rocking them
Starting point is 00:05:08 do you get compliments on them? oh absolutely here's the beautiful thing about Gucci it always looks good you know what I mean I know Pharrell got something going on with Louis Vuitton right now that's too hip for me
Starting point is 00:05:24 Andrew Panay I got something going on with Louis Vuitton right now. That's too hip for me. I can't rock that. Andrew Panay, who rocks Louis Vuitton like nobody's business, and it looks great on him. But I kind of like Gucci. I'm not going to lie. Like, if anybody were to buy me gifts. Oh, those glasses are Gucci, Joelle?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah. Joelle just pointed to her new dope glasses. How would you describe those? They're big and round. They're kind of like the fashionista in The Incredibles. She wears those. Edna Mode. These are Edna Mode glasses. A hundred percent. I got them because of that. I love Edna. They look really good on you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Now, what about overalls? Because another one of my things that I bought was overalls and I'm feeling like I'm not sure about them. Okay, I have many, many questions. What color is the wash? Okay, they're sort of an olive-y green. Oh, this is much better. Okay, new choice. Great.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Very into that. They're long pants? What's the cut on them? Do they make overall shorts? They sure do, buddy. They sure do. I did not wear overall shorts. Hold on. I was about to say, you're wearing later hose sure do. I did not wear overall shorts. Hold on. Hold on. I was about to say, you're wearing later hoes? No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I'm not wearing, although I would love to see overall shorts. Now that you say later hoes, I can picture them. No, they're just, they look like, you know, you would not flinch if a painter was wearing them. Okay, okay. But can I wear them to set or do I look like an idiot? I'm not sure, but I'm going to try. I feel like directors,
Starting point is 00:06:51 at least in all the behind the scenes I've seen, I'm like, either they're in the crisp suits in your Nolan style or like Bryce Dallas Howard looks like she's so cozy when she directs. She's like lots of heavy sweaters, like scarves. I feel like if you're like, I'm comfortable and I can move in this, people have to just respect that.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I feel like if you wear overalls, people are i can move in this people have to just respect that i feel like if you wear overalls people are going to be like maybe he works with props i think i'm the director of the show i mean you know i used to just roll up directing like in whatever the coziest thing was but now i'm directing shrinking uh uh lately that's why we haven't well donald's working and i'm working so sorry man i've just been touring you well you've been freaking well you've been doing press so i just wanted to say to the audience sorry we haven't been around for a second but um we'll be back regularly i said don't blame me motherfucker this is all you that's all don't say that on instagram i've been seeing you on a big press tour um but anyway i'm directing shrinking and it's so much fun. But yeah, I feel like I want to like, I like to like, not full Chris Nolan suit, but I try and like, you know, wear a nice outfit each day to represent.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Nolan rocks a suit when he- Yeah, some directors, Sam Raimi's another one. Some directors wear a suit every single, when I was on Oz the Great and Powerful, we shot that for like six months. Sam Raimi wore a suit every single day. With shoes? With tie. Yeah. With shoes or sneakers i don't remember he may have had comfortable shoes on i don't remember like that's where i i that's fine if you want to wear a suit whatever you wear on your body is fine but
Starting point is 00:08:17 like you're at you got to be comfortable man and i get that's the that's the one thing that's important and so if you if you are are suited up, so be it. Hey, I can't do it. I read somewhere, I forgot who it was, which director said this, but they said the best advice they could give to a director is to change your socks at lunch. Oh, interesting. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Because it's really weird, but by the time you get to lunch, you're exhausted already and you sweat all day in your feet, right? So then there's something about starting the second chapter of the day with a fresh pair of dry socks that adds a little bit of psychosomatic, like, okay, here we go again, new chapter. And you'd think it was silly, but it actually works. So whether you're a filmmaker or you do anything that requires a lot of you, and I don't know, try it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 There's something about changing your socks at lunch. Full support. I think changing my underwear might be the ticket. Do your balls sweat enough that you need to? I got some very sweaty balls. By the way, we got to tell Dan what happened. We're not going to say who it was, but a very, very, very fancy executive said to Donald and I,
Starting point is 00:09:28 um, Hey, thanks a lot. I was listening to the podcast and, uh, I got my kids in the car and all of a sudden you guys are talking about waxing your anuses. Have they ever listened to the podcast before?
Starting point is 00:09:41 Come on. Yeah, they had. This person is a fan of the podcast, but this person was like, damn, you guys. Then I had to explain what Nair was to my kids. I feel bad. That's awful. This is funny.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Did you ever get the waxing? The Nairing done? No, I tried Nair, but I kept it out of the deep crevice. Did it work? It's kind of gross. Yeah, because it destroys the hair. It's weird. It's like a scientific experiment on your butt cheek. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:10:24 You did it on your butt yeah i tried it on my cheeks a little i love that it works it works no i don't really i'm not having a hairy ass bro i'm not i know but whenever we've been together i've always made sure that i shaved it i'm just kidding i don't really have a hairy butt at all i just thought i don't know I had already ordered the Nair before you all told me not to do it. So I just thought, well, I'm not going to go deep because of all the warnings. And I didn't have any painter's tape for my balloon knot, but I just did the cheeks. Oh, my gosh. How are you?
Starting point is 00:11:00 How's your press tour for your show? It's been great, man. I'm really hyping you guys up. You know, there are not a lot of people working in Hollywood right now. Like, a lot of actors and stuff like that aren't working right now. I know. I saw that article. Even guest spots and all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And I've been very fortunate to be working. Same, you know, with you as well, Zach. You know, we're very lucky. So lucky, of course. And this press tour reminded me of how lucky I was, you know, with you as well, Zach, you know, we're very lucky. So lucky, of course. And this press tour reminded me of how lucky I was, you know, like even the press tour was, I looked at it as, oh, this is an acting exercise. This is work, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:36 And when it was over, it was like, wow, I'm going to miss this. I'm going to miss, I'm going to miss this moment. This was a really great moment. We'll see what happens. People are still watching the show. It seems like the show continues that way. It seems like the show's popular. Yes, Joelle.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Okay. So I was at a screening the other day, and a journalist comes up to me, and she was like, oh, my gosh. You do fake doctors. I was like, I do. I was like, I just met Donald today and he was fabulous. He was amazing. They love you. Like, obviously, I'm glad that you love it because they love you back.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I think it's sweet. I had a lot of fun and it's something that I don't usually have fun doing. Like, I hate, I'm going to be honest with everyone out there who's listening. I do not like doing press. I don't like, I don't know if it's an anxiety thing. I don't know what it is, but it's a switch that you turn on. And then once you, while you're doing it, you know, I have a lot of fun when I'm doing it. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But then when you turn off, it's almost like a nervous breakdown for me. You know what I mean? It's exhausting. You're being like asked, breakdown for me you know what i mean it's exhausting you're being like asked like pop quizzed all day like here's a ton of different questions like answer them correctly and you don't want to say the wrong thing either like nobody wants to get canceled you know your mind is like gosh this is a minefield like i don't want to say anything inappropriate at all and all day long you're being you're based every journalist you talk to for the most part you know it's basically going to be some version of the same eight questions so you answer those and then you you want to be original for people but then you
Starting point is 00:13:15 start being like oh my god i'm just a broken record and and yeah and then you're worried that like you phrased it wrong i agree don't you got to be on and try and be funny. But at the same time, it causes anxiety. Cryer said something that was really great. He was like, you know, you worry that everybody's going to be like, well, he said that joke on such and such. Or he said that joke on such and such. But nobody's watching all of these things at once. Nobody's following you like that. So you're lucky if one person catches that joke
Starting point is 00:13:46 so i know the problem is you're good the problem is when you got a really good story you're like you got to save it for like what's the most viewers that i'm gonna be talking to it's probably gonna be jimmy kimmel or i gotta save that i gotta save that i got a funny story so I'm directing Shrinking and it's so fun I love it and there's this scene where where the characters
Starting point is 00:14:10 that are are the dog kennel and so we looked at a bunch of real dog kennels and it just the logistics of it weren't didn't make sense so we found this room
Starting point is 00:14:17 at a place that's not a kennel and we're gonna dress it in you know with kennels and stuff to look like the back room of a dog kennel and
Starting point is 00:14:24 the producer one of the producers comes up to me and he says, hey, it's Kip Kroger. Do you remember him, Donald? Kip. Yeah, he started as a PA and post, I think, on Scrubs. Yeah, in editing. And now he's one of Bill's. This is how loyal Bill is and also, of course, how good Kip is.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Now he's one of the main producers at Bill's company. So I said, like, you know, we need this amount of kennels. I think that'll look good to dress this room. And he comes one of the main producers at Bill's company. So I'd said like, you know, we need this amount of kennels. I think that'll look good to dress this room. And he comes up to me, he goes, Hey man, you just got out of that meeting and they think you need like 20 dogs. Like that's a lot of dogs for us to like get from a trainer. And I said, Oh no, no, no worries. It's fine. We can, you know, we'll make it work with what eight or so and make sure they're trained. So they're not barking and we can record sound he goes i had this idea what if we got rowdy out of out of storage no way and i and i was like do you know i don't know that i told the story about how i got rowdy
Starting point is 00:15:17 um on wish i was here right just to remind anyone that didn't hear like they and disney made a huge deal out of getting running because they think i'm trying to steal him and he came with a like a guard legit he came with a security guard to the wish i was here set and i said to kip i was like you can get rowdy but just you know he's in the back of that fucking raiders of the ark you know hanger way way back dark hanger yeah and then and then when you get him he's going to come with a with a guard anyway so i i think I might be getting Rowdy out of retirement
Starting point is 00:15:47 again that would be amazing and a fun easter egg for Scrubs fans that when you get to the kennel scene one of those kennels will have Rowdy in them
Starting point is 00:15:55 and if you can spot the taxidermy dog amongst the living yeah holy cow wouldn't that be funny though just a little easter egg
Starting point is 00:16:04 that would be awesome, man. That'd be really funny. That'd be great. I said, you're going to have to go high up though, Kip, because they are, they don't fuck around
Starting point is 00:16:11 when it comes to releasing Rowdy. If we do a show- I got to say one thing. I may have talked a lot of shit during this last press tour for Extended Family, which airs on NBC at 8.30 on Tuesday nights. And then the next day you could stream it, new episodes on Peacock.
Starting point is 00:16:29 That was quite a parenthetical, but that's nice. I might have talked a lot of shit about how we're trying to put Scrubs together and put it out to the world. Yeah, well, I think that's true. I think that there's nothing. I just need the confirmation. That's all I need. There's nothing firm, but it does feel like there's momentum towards something being real.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I've said we're really trying is what I said. That's accurate. I said we're really, really trying. We're trying to make it happen is what I said. I think it's accurate. I think we've talked about this for so long, and I think that we have to talk about the Super Bowl ads. I don't think we've spoken about that. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:17:03 We have not talked. Those were fire. We hinted at it. That's a great little. Gosh, they were. Gosh, not to humblebrag, but if we can't do it on our own podcast. Holy shit. Then where can you?
Starting point is 00:17:18 It has on YouTube. I think it's the 50. It has 55 million views. The Momoa one. And I think the auditions one has 56 million views, which is just, we never thought we would beat Travolta. Us and Momoa has been taken by us and the other guys? I haven't checked recently, but when I did last check,
Starting point is 00:17:38 first of all, we're in both, so it's okay. No, I understand that we're in both, but you know. I think that the auditions one with Bradley is at 56 million on YouTube and the Momoa one's at 55 million, which you guys, just for reference, we never thought we'd ever beat the Travolta one because it's Travolta singing in Greece. I mean, that's pretty unbelievable. And that was at 40 something.
Starting point is 00:18:02 So this really was a hit with people. Yeah, you nailed it with those numbers, by the way. 55 and 56 right now. That's nuts. That's so big. It's really huge. It was so fun. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I'm going to be, that's a lot of views, man. What was Travolta at? Yeah. I'm scrolling right now looking for it. Let's see here. It's going to be a while. I think late 40s. Well, the Super Bowl was huge also, man.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Let's keep it 100. By the way, how about our placement? 120 million. I didn't even know what Well, the Super Bowl was huge also, man. Let's keep it 100. By the way, how about our placement? I didn't even know what the two-minute warning was. But we were at the two-minute warning. We're always at the two-minute warning. Did you know that? But the first spot up after two-minute warning, that was a fireplace. This is the first time we've ever been the first spot up after the two-minute warning.
Starting point is 00:18:38 You're absolutely right about that. By the way, we got to shout it out for Mike Katz, who's the one who chooses where this goes. And he, what about like, first of all, the game, you can't predict how close the game's going to be. That was such a good game. And then at the two-minute warning, they go to commercial, and it's our spot. That was fucking great.
Starting point is 00:18:58 That was prime time. The last year's commercial, I think getting a little boost from this year's commercial is currently at 56 it's high with the holy wow wow because it got a boost it got a boost well anyway donald and i had so much fun shooting it we can't say enough about jason momoa he's so cool and kind and funny and so game obviously to be as silly and dorky as we are and so game, obviously, to be as silly and dorky as we are. And he was really kind with my kids.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And he brought his kids to set and stuff like that. It was a great experience. This new year so far with you, buddy, we've had some good times so far. Just right out the gate like holy cow bro I feel so very lucky we had so much fun and it's just it's such a pleasure to get to laugh with Donald and and be as silly and and then of course the fact that people love it it's just it's so gratifying we never know like the idea that Donald and I would get a third Super Bowl commercial in a row it's just not it was not even in our. And then the funny thing about the auditions one, I have to tell you the context of this,
Starting point is 00:20:09 is that I think we've told you this before, but the way that Brian Klugman and Andrew Pinet, who make these commercials, do it is we always do a really low-budget version on spec, which means it's not the real commercial. We do it to sort of show t-mobile what the commercial is going to be like and so we did a version of this in my backyard with me and donald and we we had a double and then we put like a big sort of like bobblehead fake picture of momoa over the doubles body and then and then move the mouth like south park so we could just like sell what the concept of the spot was going to be and and then we went
Starting point is 00:20:45 into the studio and recorded it and we had a double um sing for chasen because obviously he hadn't signed on yet and um and then and so that was great and we basically made like a short film for the momo one it was really really funny the pitch was a short it was like it was like the pitch was essentially like this short film it was really funny but then for the auditions one that one brian was like hey you and donald do one so we shot that on an iphone in my in my guest house to die ring light with a ring light and an iphone and that was just supposed to be part of the spec ad right so then when they went and made the real quote-unquote audition spot they went back and shot it professionally and donald and i weren't going to be in that one because we were going to be in the mo one it was like we weren't supposed to be in that one and then at the last second i was skiing actually i was in i was in utah skiing
Starting point is 00:21:34 and we got a call that they wanted to add us to the audition spot but they weren't going to reshoot it they were just going to use the ip footage. So that 56 million views on the Super Bowl is an iPhone footage of me and Donald in my guest house. That's amazing. It works. I'm just saying, if it worked, look, if it worked for the Blair Witch Project, how come it can't work for T-Mobile, baby? I know.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I'm just saying, all of you guys out there saying you can't make a movie because you can't afford to rent a camera. You shoot it on your iPhone because Donald andald and i are on an iphone in the super bowl ad it's a good it's a good iphone ad um all right what else do we have to talk about before we get in the show there's so much to talk about we've been gone for so long it feels like for you guys it doesn't feel like that because we've banked a couple of shows joelle that that was very... Yeah, man. We had one additional week, and then we ran a rerun last week. Oh, we ran a rerun last week? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 We had no more recordings. We didn't bank enough, dude. We got to bank more. We got to bank more. We got to bank more. I'm losing weight. By the way, I have a question. When you lose weight, do your fingers lose weight?
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah, everything loses weight. They can. Everything. Because I can't tell if it's psychosomatic but i have this aura ring and i have been losing weight and now it feels loose and i can't tell if that's just in my head or not no that's weight everywhere you don't just lose weight my fingers are losing weight bro yeah yeah everything fingers now it's so hard to be on set with all this fucking food every day there's these tables of food and
Starting point is 00:23:06 so-and-so got cookies and so-and-so got ice cream and there's an ice cream truck and all this stuff and i'm just sitting there just like shaking does harrison eat it um no i don't see him uh eating that stuff at least i mean i don't know what he's eating on his own but it's like you know there's so much you know the crew there's so much food going around because you can't really leave everyone's got to just stay there so there's and then i don't know it's just hard it's what you know when i'm home and at my house like it's easy when you're on you must feel this when you're at your show and like all that food around oh bro man i walk by craft service all day. They got hot dogs and shit. Look, I love me some hot dogs. A glizzy, a glizzy for shizzy, my nizzy.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Oh, my gosh. It's a New York meme for hot dogs. Slang for a hot dog. Call him the glizzy gulper. I've never heard of a glizzy. Oh, my goodness gracious. They have the roller. And so you know how the roller works where the aroma just hits you.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And I don't know about you, but ain't nothing like that Hebrew National hot dog when that shit's on that roller. Oh, my God. It's like an obstacle course at drinking. Just you're like, no, I can't have that. Okay, I'll have a little bit of that. No, I can't have that. No, I can't do that. And there's always someone coming around like, hey, guys, there's an ice cream truck.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Does anyone want ice cream? So I had to wait until press was over to start this. I had planned on starting this food thing. I had to wait till press was over because I was going to New York. I was going to, you know, I went to Atlanta. I went to Kansas City. I went to Atlanta. I went to Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I was like, I'm going to wait until the press thing is over to do this food thing and consume these healthy foods. The food service. Huh? Will they deliver meals to your house? Yes. Yes. Sorry. And now I'm going to miss it.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I'm not going to lie. I'm going to miss the grease. Yeah. Did you start it yet? And the bacon. Yeah. I'm going to miss the grease. Yeah. And the butter. Did you start it yet? And the bacon. Yeah. It's delicious. It's good.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah. But I'm going to miss the grease. I'm going to miss the butter. Yeah. I'm going to miss the bacon. I'm going to miss the red meat. Are you going to be able to stick to it? I mean, I kind of got it, man.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I'm turning 50 this year. My life is on the line. It's pretty dire. It's not dire, but you know. Are you going to join me in my 10,000 steps a day challenge? I did buy an aura ring. There you go. Nice.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Well, join me. I got my nephew on it. He's texting me his steps. I got my friend Trevor. Our friend Trevor's on it. Anyone who's doing it with me, keep it up. I know it's tricky some days. For me, it definitely is. But my trainer says
Starting point is 00:25:50 it's one of the easiest, best things you can do. What I say, the iPhone is, the iWatch is great for the steps, but the Oura Ring is great for the sleep. Yeah, and obviously there's lower budge versions of it out there too.
Starting point is 00:26:06 That bracelet thing. What's that called? Fitbit. Fitbit. Oh, yeah, Fitbit. But yeah, the thing about the phone is just... Well, first of all, I don't want an iWatch, Apple Watch, just because I'm already on my phone too much. I don't want to look at...
Starting point is 00:26:16 I just feel like an Apple Watch for me would be too much. So I got the Ring because... Also, and then phone-wise, your phone's not always on you, so you're not getting credit for those steps. The thing that's cool about the Ring, or I imagine the Fitbit, is phone's not always on you so you're not getting credit for those steps the thing about that's cool about the ring or i imagine the fitbit is it just always on you right and the one that starts with the w i don't think it counts steps i could be wrong but it it does some other calculation whereas i need from from my program to know what steps i'm on this episode do it. Yeah, we should do it. I got full body goosebumps at the end.
Starting point is 00:26:47 You want to hit it? I'm a simp, baby girl. 5, 6, 7, 8. Stories about a show we made about a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love to hate. I said here's our stories
Starting point is 00:27:02 that we all should know. So gather round to hear our I said he's got stories that you all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. What you trying to get into a day or soon? What you trying to do? Ain't nothing like walking down the street of New York City and having somebody run up to you and sing that to you. What you trying to get into a day of show? What you trying to do?
Starting point is 00:27:34 It must make you feel good. The podcast is very popular. I got to tell you, I was working on the set, and these two grips came up to me, and I just thought the obvious. They were going to say Love Scrubs or Love something else I've done. And they were like, hey man, we both love the podcast. And that made me feel so good. So good.
Starting point is 00:27:52 It's really interesting. You know, I'm taking pictures with photographers and stuff like that and their assistants are like, dude, love your fucking podcast. The photographer's like, I'm a huge fan. I keep forgetting how popular this is I just think the four of us are sitting here
Starting point is 00:28:08 shooting the shit and there's so many people listening does this ever well it obviously is occurring to you within press Joel you know somebody within press what we are now Zach said you know Joel I just had a
Starting point is 00:28:24 conversation with Donald. You know what I mean? Recognizing Joel from this podcast. The funny thing is Bill gets recognized now, too. I mean, I don't know why Bill's getting recognized so much more. I was in Vegas with Bill, and he was getting recognized. For the podcast? Well, obviously, I think some because of the podcast, because he's, you know, he's on here a bunch.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And also because obviously he's become an even bigger showrunner than ever. And his name is more famous. But this dude gets recognized now. Were people coming up to Bill and saying, I'm loving you on your podcast? No, but I told you last time I directed Shrinking, the guard at the gate was like, hey, Mr. Braff, welcome back. I love you on Bill's podcast. the guard at the gate was like, hey, Mr. Braff, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I love you on Bill's podcast. But actually, we had something really beautifully moving happen. I was in Vegas with Bill. We went to see U2 at the Sphere, which was super cool. Oh, that's right. Oh, my God. And we're walking through the- Did they do the rattle and hum section? I forgot which albums were-
Starting point is 00:29:24 When we were a kid, that the first like concert movie that i can remember they did they did all the hits they did and it came and the only reason why i know this is because it came right before the eddie murphy raw like if you bought eddie murphy raw the trailer before on vhs raw was youtube i mean youtube rattle and hum and then it would go into the VHS Raw was YouTube. I mean, YouTube, Rattle, and Hum. And then it would go into the Eddie Murphy Raw shit. For those of you who have VHS and remember, you know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. It was really cool. I mean, obviously, if you get a chance, audience, I think YouTube's almost done. But if you get a chance to see a band you like at the Sphere, it's a pretty, really cool experience.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Joelle, what are you doing? Sorry, Beyonce is rumored to be the next act in there. I think it's the dead or the next, but Beyonce's the next one to announce is apparently going to Beyonce. Is that going to be her residency? That would be wild. That's the rumor. I can't even. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Wait a second. You can have the sphere as a residency? Not forever, but for a long time. For a period of time that's what you like huh that's what you're doing but they've only they've been doing like three no no they've been doing like three shows a week for i don't know how long but a while yeah yo yeah that is a fucking oh my god you know who should this is where john williams all these conductors and stuff need to start throwing freaking shows at the sphere, man. And letting this freaking thing take you on that journey that you're talking about in your music, man.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Come on. I'm into that. That's true. They should totally do that, Donald. That's a great idea. It is such a, when you watch, when I watched the U2 show, I went, this is unbelievable. And this is just sort of the proof of concept, this band doing this. Like, this is just like, what are people,
Starting point is 00:31:10 what are artists going to do with this incredible space? You know, there's so many things you could do. And I can imagine, I think the Dead and Phish are next. Phish first, I think. So you can imagine that's going to be super trippy for all those people that love jam bands and stuff because the visuals will be crazy. Are you allowed to smoke weed in Vegas now? I was just about to say. Yes, you sure can.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't think, no, not in the sphere. That sphere is going to smell. Not inside the sphere. They're not going to be able to get that smell out. You can absolutely not smoke in the sphere. They're not going to be able to get that smell out. I can tell you just from being there once that it's so buttoned up. I mean, God knows what they're going to do at Fish and Dead.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I think they're going to have to have a full time to kick you out. Dude, that shit ain't going to be able to get that smell out. But anyway, you're definitely not allowed to smoke weed in there. I'm sure the dead and fish people will, but there certainly weren't at you two. Motherfuckers are going to be vaping. Motherfuckers are going to be sneaking bongs up in that shit. Hit the bong button. Hit the bong sound
Starting point is 00:32:05 effects. Oh, sorry. Here I come. That's what you're going to hear all day. But anyway, when I was watching, I was like, and John Williams is a great idea, Donald. I was just, you can't help but think, like, think how artists are going to use this. It's so cool. So cool.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And I haven't even seen, there's an Aronofsky movie that, you know, that's a nature doc. I didn't get to see that. That's another thing. I would love to watch a movie in that also. Yeah. I think Aronofsky is the only person that's made something sort of, you know, that's not a concert thing so far. But I heard it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:32:42 But wait, I wanted to just say this. So Bill and I are walking through a casino. He, of course, crushed in Blackjack. He he was so good he won a lot of money and i did not um i wasn't he was trying he was giving me good advice he was a good coach but i still got crushed and he won of course but we're walking through the casino and uh this woman like came up to us in tears and she said i'm sorry to bother you. I just want to say that. First, she started talking to me. And I was like, hey, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But this is Bill who created the whole thing. And she had tears in her eyes. And she said, Scrubs has gotten me through, truly gotten me through a lot of hard times. And I just, I can't believe I'm running into you two. And I wanted to thank you. And it was so moving. She was so heartfelt so uh I just want to say to anyone who feels that way thank you so much that was really really you know we forget because
Starting point is 00:33:33 we don't you know we because we were in it and we're we here we sit here and we talk about it every once in a while but seeing how much it means to people is really it was really was really moving to both Bill and I we were both really I, I don't know, emotional about it. I've learned a lot from just listening to, like, Joelle once said something about a show that meant a lot to her. And she was like, please, don't let them cancel it. And I was like, Joelle, you got to let it go. But some shows touch you, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:08 And Joelle, it was Harley Quinn, you know what I mean? That's a show that she freaking really connected to. And because she connected to it that hard, I went and watched that shit. And I like that. I love the show now, you know what I mean? I think it's real fire. And so I, when people do that, it's the, please express that to other people as well, because that connection, that love could be spread some more, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:38 And then more people could watch Scrubs. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful. That's where The Bright Side comes in. A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that's bringing you a daily dose of joy. I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce. Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters. We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy, but the Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new and get into some friendly debates. That's right. Join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice,
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Starting point is 00:36:47 what? A second host? I'm Carmen Laurent and this season I am joined full time by world-renowned Janie Danger. Janie, what are we talking about
Starting point is 00:36:59 in Season 3? We're talking about life, Carmen. Beauty Translated is about the many fragmented lives spreading across this rich tapestry of the trans experience. Janie, this sounds like an all-new format. Podcasting 2 is finally here.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Thoughtful perspectives on current events. Stunning, sexy, bold interviews with an all-star lineup of guests. And the all-new Beauty Translated Loveline, the first ever. Be a part of the Beauty Translated Transcendental Podcasting experience by calling our helpline at 678-561-2785. For any problem you may have, we will do our best to make it worse listen to beauty translated season three on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts bye um all right this was directed by zach bra. I have no memory of directing it. You don't remember directing this?
Starting point is 00:38:07 I don't. I got to be honest. I remember when they do that opening, JD sliding through all the scenes thing, I was like, oh, that's clever. But I didn't remember directing it. It was trying to be like the first episode where everything's going around him. But that was shot in real time
Starting point is 00:38:23 where this is shot on green screen, obviously. Yeah, I mean, elements of it were yeah obviously when jd i i so i didn't know how exactly we did it but then on scrubs wiki uh one of the one of the things is that you can see a piece of jd's rollerblades when he's gliding through the parking lot so i guess they had me on rollerblades they pulled you obviously yeah either that or you skip skip skip no but that was cool. I mean, it was kind of like this wannabe Spike Lee shot, you know, his infamous, the actors on the dolly shot. On the right.
Starting point is 00:38:51 But yeah, Sarah walking and me just gliding, that looked cool, I thought. It did. On green screen. I didn't know that you could secretly see the hidden rollerblades. So just to catch everybody up, JD is now going to move 30 minutes away from Sacred Heart.
Starting point is 00:39:07 37 minutes away. 37 to be with his son. I agree with what was said last time. They should have made it further because this is like right on the edge of like, why? Well, I mean, they kind of retcon what he says halfway through the episode. Yeah. Or toward the end of the episode. 115.
Starting point is 00:39:24 They said ain't no half, 37 minutes. It's more like an hour and a half, bro. Yeah, because you have to stop at the episode. Yeah. Or toward the end of the episode where it turns like this. It ain't no half 37 minutes. It's more like an hour and a half, bro. Yeah, because you have to stop at the blueberry stand. Do you think they stop at the blueberry stand both ways?
Starting point is 00:39:33 Right. Yes, I do. I do think they stop both ways. And the blueberries are made potentially with the sun's manure. That was like,
Starting point is 00:39:42 we get sick because it comes out that the blueberries might be special because they're made with the farmer's son's special manure. Yes. Ew. Yeah. I don't know what that's about.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I mean, wouldn't that be the sun's own fecal matter, right? Yeah, I think that's the implication. That's the implication, yes. That's the implication. By the way, the theme that the janitor keeps saying over and over again is change begets change. Right. Nobody wants everything. A janitor does not want people to keep changing because so many people in this episode are changing.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Which is interesting because you would think that he's gone through the most changes in a hospital, right? Either him or Kelso they've seen everybody come and go right but i think both he and we even cox as well yeah him and i think we learned that he and cox are both hiding the fact that they don't want this group to fall apart it's a good group it's a pretty great group. Pretty good group. I really like this episode a lot because I felt just watching it as a fan,
Starting point is 00:40:54 I went, oh, I don't want this to be over. And it was so good at making me emotional about that. I felt like, oh, I love this group of people and oh, you're one episode away from it being over. I don't want it to be over. So that was good. I felt like we were showing off how good we were now at this point. At this point, and also I think it's because we knew it was over.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And so at this point, we're really throwing in like everybody just to see. Like there's moments where it's Cox and Elliot, and they're seen as fucking hilarious. Judy and... Sorry, Turk and Carla and JD. You know what I mean? Like, just everything is... The rhythm is on point.
Starting point is 00:41:39 You know, Kelso doesn't have the chief of medicine job anymore, but his moments in the hospital still feel within the rhythm and everything like that. And it's been eight seasons, and you can feel it all coming to a head. You know what I mean? You can feel the pressure about to pop as we say goodbye. And that's what I felt throughout the whole episode. It's like, oh, shit, I'm about to fucking I'm gonna cry at some point because I'm gonna miss this one
Starting point is 00:42:08 and two I'm gonna laugh because it's fucking scrubs you know what I'm saying I almost cried at the end it's like the perfect setup you've experienced it all for these past eight seasons here's an ultimate setup you can now watch it with us
Starting point is 00:42:24 and see it coming it's fucking awesome dude yeah it's so especially when you know it's about to be over yeah um so turk is wearing his chief hat that the janitor made for him in his new badge picture yeah carl is not into the chief hat and the badge not at all she wants him to look respectable. Right. And I agree with Turk, to be honest with you. As someone who has a ID that, where I'm making a face and I got away with it. Really? I agree with him. Your lot badge?
Starting point is 00:42:57 No, my, oh my gosh, my lot badge, my wife. So my lot badge is us on vacation. I put sunblock all over my body. Not sunscreen, sunblock all over my body. The white stuff. The white stuff, yeah. All over my body. That's what she chose as your picture? And my wife was like, I can pick any picture I want.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I was like, you can pick any picture you want. Think if you would pick a handsome picture of me. She chose me full Cisco. What's Cisco? Amazing. Cisco from Drew Hill. He had the silver hair. He did the thong song.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Thong song. My whole body is the color of his hair. Full Cisco. I need to see that picture. I like it when the booty go. Baby, let me hear it go he really loves thongs that guy he really loves thongs he likes thongs a lot he loves it because he likes it when the booty go yeah he likes it when the booty go but with the thong yeah but and baby make the because he likes when the baby make the booty go.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Baby make the booty go. Thong, thong, thong, thong. But it only works if she's wearing that thong, thong, thong, thong. I'm sure he likes the booty without the thong, but he really went all in on loving thongs. Well, she had dumps like a truck. What does that mean? Dumps like a truck. She had a big booty.
Starting point is 00:44:20 You're supposed to say, you're supposed to say what? What? What? Thighs like what? What? Thighs like what? What? Baby move your butt? I think I'll sing it again. She got dumps like a truck.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Dumps like a truck is her ass cheeks? Yes. All right, so here I got another one. Apple bottom jeans, boots with the fur. Boots with the fur. The whole crowd was looking at the fur. Dude, I always thought they're saying apple bottom jeans and the boots are made of fur. No, motherfucker. She got boots on and the fur coat.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Oh, shit. That shit caught me. I was today years old when I found that shit out, man. I thought the boots had fur, too. No, the boots. No, the jacket. How did you learn this? Was that Reba McEntire?
Starting point is 00:45:10 I saw a picture of Reba McEntire, and that shit laid me out. I was like, fuck. But Apple Bottom Jeans did have boots with fur, so most likely that's what the original song was referring to. I've never seen nobody with no boots with the fur with no apple bottom jeans. I've seen the boots and the fur with the fur on jacket, I mean. I feel you. I feel you. Listen, it can play either way, but this is because Rhea was saying at the Super Bowl and she had a fabulous fur on with dope boots.
Starting point is 00:45:42 But it just makes more sense that way. That's my point. It makes more sense. What are apple bottom jeans? They were random jeans by Camorra Lee Simmons. Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo. Good knowledge. It makes your butt look like
Starting point is 00:45:54 bongos. Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo. Interesting bongo sound. Okay. Got it. No, it's my bad. It makes you look like congas. They're not in style anymore apple bottom jeans Joelle
Starting point is 00:46:09 no they still they'll never go out of style did the company come back is it still existing I'm not sure of the current state of the apple bottom jeans maybe the name of the but apple bottom jeans
Starting point is 00:46:18 I thought was a style of jean that just made your butt look like a apple bottom or a peach bottom that was where the company got its name from Joelle do you think I could like an apple bottom or a peach bottom. That was where the company got its name from. Do you think I could pull off apple bottom jeans? Before you know it, you ain't got no ass.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Don't even try. I'm working on my ass in the gym. I'm going to have a booty. Just you wait. I'm doing glutes at the gym. I'm going to have a booty. Who's the most famous big booty in the world? That's what I'm going to have a booty. Who's the most famous big booty in the world? That's what I'm going to have soon.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You're going to have a Kardashian booty? Yes. I'm going to have a Kardashian booty soon. You're going to have to put something in there. I'm putting muscles in there, glutes. And I'm going to wear apple bottom jeans, boots with the fur. The whole town was looking at her. She hit the floor.
Starting point is 00:47:07 The club, club, club. Next thing you know. I guess if you were in a small town walking around with apple bottom jeans, boots with the fur, the town would be looking at her. The whole town would be looking at her. Yeah, but it's the club, the club. The club. The whole club was looking at her.
Starting point is 00:47:23 She hit the floor. Next thing you know. Shorty goes, low, low, low, low, low. I'm prepared. She hit the floor. Next thing you know, low, low, low. You sound like Rocco. When Rocco first heard that song, he would sing it like that. She hit the floor.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Next thing you know, Shorty got low, low, low, low. She hit the floor and the next thing you know, I don't even know what happened, but Shorty, she just got low, low, low. And the whole club was looking at her.
Starting point is 00:47:59 All right, should we take a break? We'll be right back after these, mine. That's what I'm talking about. When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful. That's where The Bright Side comes in. A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that's bringing you a daily dose of joy. I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters. We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy. But the Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new and get into some friendly debates. That's right. Join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice or figuring out how to navigate life's transitions,
Starting point is 00:48:49 we'll talk through it all together. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer
Starting point is 00:49:46 and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Beauty Translated Season 3 is coming soon with what? A second host? I'm Carmen Laurent, and this season I am joined full-time by world-renowned Janie Danger. Janie, what are we talking about in Season 3?
Starting point is 00:50:21 We're talking about life, Carmen. Beauty Translated is about the many fragmented lives spreading across this rich tapestry of the trans experience. Janie, this sounds like an all new format. Podcasting two is finally here. Thoughtful perspectives on current events. Stunning, sexy, bold interviews with an all-star lineup of guests. And the all-new Beauty Translated Loveline, the first ever. Be a part of the Beauty Translated Transcendental Podcasting experience by calling our helpline at 678-561-2785. For any problem you may have, we will do our best to make it worse.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Listen to Beauty Translated Season 3 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bye! Bye! all right let's get in the show so there's an on-call room walk of shame as uh as denise and derek come out and um and then carla says she fantasizes about derek and then elliot says this incredible fantasy that she has that helps her climax and i was so happy that elliot said that because and then they said something about therapy but I was so happy that Elliot said that because,
Starting point is 00:51:46 and then they said something about therapy, but I was so happy that Elliot said that because I feel like we've lost that. I agree, Donald. I had the same reaction. I was like, I miss Elliot's ever since she got back with JD, she's not into the kink anymore.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Well, she's back at it. Unfortunately, it's not really related to JD. I guess it is a little bit. I wrote some cliff notes here. JD, it's not really related to JD. I guess it is a little bit. I wrote some cliff notes here. JD in her fantasy, JD tries to mug Elliot and Derek
Starting point is 00:52:11 and then she grabs the knife and forces them both to pleasure her. Sometimes. But then she goes on a killing spree. That's her fantasy. It takes a dark turn. And then she says, we all have our little tricks to help us climax. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:29 When having sex, I don't ever start thinking like that. Do you have fantasies, like descriptive fantasies while having sex? No, I think I'm always in the moment. Does anyone else want to answer that? It would be disturbing if you were that far away. He's like, what is happening? Why are you not in the room? You're not even here right now.
Starting point is 00:52:54 You're murdering people right now? Do you have your go-to, like, I have to quickly think about something else topic? So that shit doesn't work because all it does is make me panic. You know what I mean? Patrick Ewing. Patrick Ewing sweating in the fourth quarter. Patrick Ewing. Patrick Ewing. Patrick Ewing sweating. Why is it Patrick Ewing sweating in the fourth
Starting point is 00:53:16 quarter? That's your thing? Because you think of the most unattractive thing you can think of to try and stop yourself from fucking watching. I'm going to try Patrick Ewing is my thing now. No disrespect to Patrick Ewing. No disrespect. No disrespect, Patrick Ewing. No disrespect, but Donald thinks about you in the fourth quarter sweating.
Starting point is 00:53:32 On top of me just seems like. Oh, he's on top of you. Well, just, you know, whatever it takes. Oh, my God. So sometimes he's just in the room, but if you're closer to climax, he's on top of you? No, no, no. It's like he's like, I'm playing basketball, and he's just dripping sweat on top of you. Oh, he's not in the room, but if you're closer to climax, he's on top of you? I'm playing basketball, and he's just dripping sweat on top of you.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Oh, he's not in your bedroom. No, he's not literally on top of me. If it's not working, and you're getting closer to climax, you're like, now he's climbing in the bed. Now he's fucking sweating in the fourth corner.
Starting point is 00:54:03 You're all here wild. Patrick Ewing's fucking sweating in the fourth quarter. He's fucking me. Y'all are wild. God damn. Don't come. Don't come. Patrick Ewing is now fucking me. Sweating in the fourth quarter. And then you come and you're like, hmm, I have to look at this.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And you come hard. And you just can't stop it. And then Casey's like, baby, why do you just have the most insane orgasm? Like, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. No, I'll tell her straight up. Patrick Ewing was fucking me while sweating in the fourth quarter. Oh, my word. Joel, we're going to need a little content warning for this one.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Zach, I love you. Zach, I love you. Yeah. We might have to cut all of his dental. What are you talking about? I don't think we can talk about Patrick Ewing this way no we have to that's beautiful listen
Starting point is 00:54:49 it's beautiful it's how Donald manages to last that's what we'll call this episode how Donald manages to last alright so the janitor has decided he's not cleaning the third floor for a month because someone stole his sandwich off his cart. And it was Lady.
Starting point is 00:55:11 We learned it was Lady, but he doesn't want anyone to think he's a flip-flopper, so he's still not going to clean the third floor of a hospital for a month. Then someone thought it was a good idea to let the janitor give advice to a kid. Yeah, Liam. And his advice is really, really crazy and bad. I was hoping they wrote the whole thing down on Scrubs Wiki, but they didn't. But he says that he should, the little boy Liam should keep his anger. Yeah, never hit. Because when you hit, it releases the anger.
Starting point is 00:55:42 When you hit someone, it releases. So you keep it and let it fester and grow inside of you like an anger baby. I know. anger. When you hit someone, it releases. So you keep it and let it fester and grow inside of you like an anger baby. I know. That's what he says. And then he says, how far are you willing to go? Are you willing to have plastic surgery and move your eyes here? His chin and his forehead.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Oh my goodness. And then the kid says, are you on drugs? And he says, are you? It gets defensive. Do you think that means he is on drugs? And he says, are you? It gets defensive. Yeah. Do you think that means he is on drugs? No. I think it would have been funny if they said, are you drunk?
Starting point is 00:56:11 And he said, are you? No, he did. In one episode before, he said, are you? He said, someone said, are you drunk? And then he goes, have you been drinking? And he goes, I'm not drunk. But he says, are you? Meaning, like, he gets a little defensive about the idea that he's on drugs i think it's totally possible that the janitor's on something in my world this is who he is i
Starting point is 00:56:34 refuse to believe that oh i see then on some type of hallucinogenic or something that's all right i like that changed his state i think i'll give you on that. It's 100% who he is. Yeah. Just like how Elliot fantasizes about going on a killing spree at a climax. That's nuts to me. All right, so JD goes to Kim's hospital, drives the 37 minutes, and he meets Dr. Mantutz.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And he... yeah he can't stop laughing. Yeah. He can't stop laughing at Dr. Man toots. And, and, but that somehow he gets a job there and he tells everyone that he's decided to move.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And Cox is so happy that he does a backflip and doesn't land it. No, he does not stick the land. I do remember that. And the stunt double, Johnny C's stunt double really looked like him. So it enabled one to film him in such a way that looked
Starting point is 00:57:54 exactly like there was no double there. But that is a double, obviously, doing that. That guy took a fucking hard hit to the floor. Yeah, he did. For comedy. Such an interesting expression of rage if he's mad we learn at the end of the episode so his initial reaction upon learning this news is like i'm so angry i have to back well that's a that's a cox trait actually cox is so
Starting point is 00:58:19 if we go back to it all he's so self-destructive when shit doesn't go his way or when he doesn't like something or when his world is disruptive. And I mean, looking at it, I was like, oh, wow, what a great joke. He's happy that he's leaving. He tried to do a backflip. But hindsight being 20-20, this is so on par with his character. He had to find a way to hurt himself without showing everybody else that he was hurt and so he tried to use the backflip as joy to you know it's a great writing you know what i mean like great it's a great moment because in the moment i'm like oh that's a funny joke
Starting point is 00:58:57 but then in the end it's like fuck that's a he was he was pained right there right away he'll go that that's well said he'll go that far to not show emotion. He'll go that far to actually hurt himself to, to act like he doesn't care, but he actually really cares. He loves. Yeah, he loves him. That's what was so moving at the end. That's when I got tears in my eyes. Do you think it's an abandonment thing?
Starting point is 00:59:23 Do you feel like he's being abandoned? Like, I'm sure we'll find out in the next episode when he expresses himself but i think it's everything that jd hoped it was that as much as he puts on this front he is his favorite intern and he and he is like a son to him yeah i'll cry right now oh no but like i'm prepared for the finale but but it's also he this has happened before too cox yeah had a had another one another one that he i think this is what happens is that you know part of being the position he's in is that he trains these doctors some of which he doesn't like and some of which he gets very close to and then they move on and he feels in this case, because JD's probably, let's, for the sake of the show, say his favorite ever,
Starting point is 01:00:10 he's moving on and he feels a sense of betrayal. Like, I trained you and I made you the amazing doctor you are, and at the first chance you get, you're leaving. You're not staying and being an incredible doctor at Sacred Heart, which is my hospital. I'm sure that's a real thing that doctors feel. So it's kind of like coaches at universities, and they have players come in.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And some players last one year. Some players last four years. Some players all of a sudden stay and coach and stuff like that with them. You know what I mean? Cox, I guess, had high hopes, maybe because JD was there for so long. It's been 10 years almost.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Or sorry, it's been eight years. Is that the limit? Is that the, I thought it was four years, right? Internship, then you do your. Residency. Residency. I do not know. And then after that, like we were residents a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:01:02 So that meant we could bounce and go to any hospital of course i think that uh you know a lot of people move on way sooner than this it's a show so everyone stayed that's the thing we joke about we're gonna have to figure out if we do a reboot is like why are we all together again yeah but it was funny you know by the way in this episode when there's that fantasy of us running the hospital and we're like, all the nurses are like models with like cut off scrubs and wearing like three piece suits. It had me laughing because it was like,
Starting point is 01:01:32 I was thinking first of all, that it'd be fun to reference that now like if we do a reboot. Now the new world. Yeah. And then also I was thinking that, oh my gosh, if you do a reboot,
Starting point is 01:01:44 you'd be able to cut to shit that we shot oh so much stuff you'd have the unique ability to cut back to us you know so long ago and when we were younger when we were young and be like it's funny to think how turk and i imagined running this hospital would be and then you cut to that fantasy i mean you could obviously like occasionally cut back to shit it'd be funny And then you cut to that fantasy. I mean, you could obviously like occasionally cut back to shit. It'd be funny. We could even, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:10 It's very interesting because we'd be starting over, right? So it's a reboot. And when we started, Scrubs wasn't this bright and colorful. It was very dark and dingy. And the hospital was very scary looking. And if we cut back to how we're running it, and it's the reboot, and it's the pilot again, and it feels like that again. And it feels like a real fucking hospital again. It's,
Starting point is 01:02:29 you know what I was laughing about? You know what I was laughing about? This is how the reboot should start is, you know how like the pilot opens with JD and he slaps his alarm clock and he hops out of bed. And he's so, you know, I'm thinking I'm 25 years old and I'm so excited.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And I put the shampoo on my chest. You should see like my hand come in and then like the camera pulls back and I've got like a sleep apnea mask on and I'm like tired. And then you see Elliot and she's got like her mouth gummies in. And then like it takes me like forever to get out of bed. And I'm like, oh, my back. And then you see me like and the kids are running around. You see me like not putting shaving cream on my chest in a silly way, but like slowly, exhaustedly shaving, you know, like.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I wonder how. Wouldn't that be a funny contrast? How old are the kids now? I think, I mean, if I was in charge, I think it'd be funny to have teenagers just because watching JD and Turk deal with teenagers would be funny. They can't be little kids. We can't do the sam no and i think well how old what's the math well how old would these kids be guys um we had the kid when we were
Starting point is 01:03:35 all you gotta do is look at the kids 2000 the show stopped in what 2009 and then we had babies so we had 24 years ago so they could be 15, 16 and our kids have to be dating do they? that's what we date with isn't that like Josh and Cher from Clueless no
Starting point is 01:04:01 that's just a conclusion and there was a step parent weird situation yeah yeah but still brother and sister step brother they weren't raised
Starting point is 01:04:11 together though anyway I digress yeah they were they were not fine they're not dating fine they're not these two are raised
Starting point is 01:04:18 together I think they should be dating these two is probably equal to three they should keep it a secret what if they do a
Starting point is 01:04:25 Sam and Diane thing where like in the first episodes they like hate they're like Sam and Diane. They're like they hate each other but you can tell
Starting point is 01:04:32 they love each other kind of vibes. Cute. That or they I like Joelle's they keep it a secret and they're keeping it a secret from us.
Starting point is 01:04:42 All right. I don't like kids telling secrets. Okay. Kids don't tell secrets to your parents.d finds smell you later hilarious what that makes no sense kids don't tell secrets to your parents tell your parents everything um jd thinks smell you later is hilarious kim is turk yes kim has asked him to stop saying it, but he finds it very hilarious. And he tells Turk. And Turk says, that is hilarious.
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Starting point is 01:09:10 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bye! Bye! Denise gives a patient too much heparin and they almost die. And Cox is furious.
Starting point is 01:09:30 But Elliot is protecting her. I'm not exactly sure why Elliot's protecting her. Why is she protecting her? This is a trait. This is one of Elliot's things. She's always been like this, where she feels like she has to take the fall for other people's stuff. She feels like she has to take the fall for other people's stuff. I also felt like in this episode, she was saying Denise is already beating herself up so much that it wouldn't do her confidence or ability to get back in there and try again any good to like berate and beat her down, which we've seen Elliot get berated and beaten down and really struggle to come back from that.
Starting point is 01:10:06 So I felt she was just talking about her own experience. That's well said, Joelle. I think that, that, that Elliot is seeing herself in Denise and wishing someone protected her more. And so she's standing up for her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It's so easy to be upset at that when you watch it from afar, but for when it's you, oh man i get why cox is upset and i get why elliot did it like my wife and i deal with this all the time with our children it's the exact same thing i totally get it where you try to where you where you wish someone had your parent had did it different and then you try to do it different, but you're just fucking them up, and that's what Elliot's doing. How does it happen with your kids? What do you mean? So when I was a kid, I didn't have everything.
Starting point is 01:10:56 I didn't, you know, shit's harder, was harder. Because of my experience now, I can see where things are harder for my kids and I can try and combat that with anything. It's okay or steer them away from it when the things that they're going to deal with and the mistakes that they're going to make and stuff like that are going to help them become better human beings. And you have to let them make mistakes and you have to let them learn to pick themselves up. And what Elliot's doing is not helping this young lady become a better doctor. She's making it. So this young lady is now going to hide or can hide, or it doesn't have to take full responsibility for her fuck ups.
Starting point is 01:11:43 And that's, there's no way, you know, doesn't have to take full responsibility for her fuck-ups. She's protecting her. There's no way... And to Elliot's credit, she doesn't have kids. Maybe if she did, she could see in that situation how she's
Starting point is 01:11:58 failing her. Denise, that is. How she's failing Denise. That's really what Cox is saying. Cox doesn't give a shit if the girl's feelings are hurt that's not what the fuck it is it's about no accountability must be had and and and and you protecting her is not it's not going to help yeah and also she'll do it again if she didn't learn because she almost fucking killed somebody yeah um go Gooch and Ted are moving in together, but the janitor says no. He says it's not allowed.
Starting point is 01:12:29 He's their cult leader, this janitor. Who the fuck does he think he is that he can tell somebody that? He thinks he's the leader of the man trust. I think this is where it comes. If this happens, change starts. And change begets change begets change begets change. That's why he doesn't want change.
Starting point is 01:12:46 So he's like, no, no moving in. There's too much changing. Jimmy, the overly touchy, orderly, massaging Todd was hilarious. Yes. When he grabs him, he goes. And then he makes them cover their ears so they can't hear. And then they find a way to massage each other with their hands over their ears yeah with their elbows and stuff and the janitor's like you know
Starting point is 01:13:09 we didn't talk about todd's three-way that he has gone one second i just gotta say the janitor's like you know sometimes you think you're an odd dude and then you see something like this because of them massaging each other with their hands over their ears taryn kill me talk about Todd's three-way that he has going on. He's seeing the Hendersons actively. Actively. They're a thruple.
Starting point is 01:13:32 They are a real thruple. Or a cuckle. They're a thruple. They're a thruple. A thruple. It seems like he's not as engaged as she is, though. He's dating dating a couple so the two of them are like
Starting point is 01:13:49 actively together and then he's like dating them i think they're both involved no they're both involved you can see he todd didn't make out with the the guy but you see him grabbing his arms and stuff like he grabs them they're all they're all banging i think todd just didn't want to make out with the guy on set. I think he made out with the woman, but he was grabbing the other guy's arms like, come on, let's go bang in the other room. Or come watch me bang. No, I think my sense is that he's by, or we know he's into everything, and they're all going to get down. What is that called when you're into everything?
Starting point is 01:14:25 Pansexual, right? Pansexual get down. What is that called? What is that called when you're into everything? Pansexual, right? Pansexual, correct. What is it? Not fluid? Pansexual, fluid. Pansexual. Todd is definitely pansexual. He's as pansexual as it gets.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I don't think it gets any more pansexual. Yeah, he's full pan. He's full pan. Yeah. He pans so far around, he pans 360. He's full pan. Yeah. He pans so far around, he pans 360.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Very well done with your wordplay, Zach Braff. Thank you. That'd be a good T-shirt for any of your pan friends in the film industry, Joelle. I love it. You have an image of a rainbow and a camera panning, and you go, I pan so far, I pan 360. Wow. Let them know. And who makes that shirt, shirt make it on etsy i'll buy one going on as chief so turk and jd get into a fight because turk starts making executive decisions because he's got a higher rank at the hospital than jd no they're getting into a fight because they're gonna miss each other other. Right. It's a couple spat.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Yeah, they're fighting because they're sad. Turk agrees to... I was sad for them, too. Turk decides to operate on Mrs. Galen, and that's not what he and JD decided, and JD's pissed. And Carla acts like she wants to have sex with Turk, and when they go in the break room, JD and Elliot are already about to hook up.
Starting point is 01:15:46 JD's pants are at his ankles. And we realized it was all a ruse from Elliot and Carla to get JD and Turk to talk. But here's the thing, and this is very realistic. The couple that's not married is like, I got carried away. The couple that is married is like,
Starting point is 01:16:10 I didn't get carried away at all. I was just getting you in the room. Yeah. I'm going to do what I got to do. Carla is not feeling it. She's felt it enough. Yeah. She's felt it enough.
Starting point is 01:16:22 She's tired. She's got a baby. She's got a job. She's got a baby. She's currently pregnant. yeah she's right yeah um that's where we have the fantasy where that we're running the hospital which is when the janitor's in a cage and he's we're eating chocolate pudding and it's only for us right carla comes putting The fact that we're running the hospital, but we still make Carla the nurse at the hospital. Like, she should be in a suit also.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Like, she should have been the head of whatever. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we got her with the rest of the girls without titties out. You know what I mean? There's no type of respect. Turk's in love. He still wants. of Turks in love he still wants Turks in love
Starting point is 01:17:06 when I looked at that I was like damn Turk you didn't you didn't even just say baby you can have a position too
Starting point is 01:17:12 while we run this thing also you know you gotta be with your titties out too I saw it as Turk is so in love with Carla that like
Starting point is 01:17:19 even though there's other models around he wants her as the front and center model in his world right on respect respect that was pretty great even though there's other models around, he wants her as the front and center model in his world. Right on. Respect.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Respect. That was pretty great. Respect. Respect. Because that's what I'm saying is, Joelle was like, yeah, what the fuck? I'm going to be honest with you. That scene was a little cringe for me.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I was sitting there like, wow, I don't think we can get away with this right now. I don't think this type of thinking is correct for the workplace. Like, you know what I mean? Like that's. I don't know. It wasn't that far. It was like two guys fantasizing that all these, that everyone that worked there was a beautiful model.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I don't think it was like too extreme. Okay. Joelle. No, I don't think it's too extreme. I do think that the show would call them out for it in a different way now. Yeah. They would, they would,
Starting point is 01:18:07 we would, the show would comment on it. Like, really, are you guys that fucking obsessed with boobies? Instead, they knocked pudding on the floor and made the janitor come out and eat it with his hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:20 He's like, he's a caged animal. He lives, he has a chain around his neck. Yeah. Yeah. And he, and he wants to eat I thought he was going to eat that pudding
Starting point is 01:18:28 I thought he was going to eat the pudding off that gross carpet for a second and as you're looking at it you can see the dirt and dinge
Starting point is 01:18:36 and nastiness on it I know and I was like as a director I was like did we lay down fake carpet
Starting point is 01:18:41 for the scene because that pudding is going to stain the fuck out of the gross carpet. No, we probably left that shit there. I don't know. It's character now.
Starting point is 01:18:49 And then I was like, oh my God. I was still, this many years later, like, oh, Neil, please don't eat that fucking pudding off that gross carpet. Like, the things that carpet has seen. The janitor's so far gone that he wants to eat the leg of a model yeah why does he try to eat her leg oh because he's hungry yes because he hasn't let him eat yeah he comes out he's like eating like no clean all right and then and then we get to car i mean i got goosebumps at the end when uh as I said. The death stare?
Starting point is 01:19:27 No, when I say goodnight to Cox on the ramp and he just looks at me. I don't know. I got full body chills. I thought it was so moving. That's when I realized right there, this motherfucker has been abandoned so many times. And here we go again. Yeah. The look is, I'm still fucking here. The look could also be, I've been abandoned so many times. And here we go again. Yeah. The look is, I'm still fucking here.
Starting point is 01:19:46 The look could also be, I've been abandoned so many times. And that's why I kept you at a distance. But I still trained you. You were still like a son to me. And I did my best to be vulnerable. And now you're leaving too. Can we also talk about JD's reaction? Because there was a time that would have killed him.
Starting point is 01:20:09 You know what I mean? There was a time where now he's like yeah whatever he had to fix it immediately and there's so much growth in his character of being like oh well if you're angry just be over angry over there yeah that's a good point joel the evolution of jd although we're going to learn in the finale that, as I recall, he finally gets a hug and it's like everything he ever wanted. And there's that sweet song. I like both songs. Winter Song by Sara Bareilles. Well, there's Winter Song by Sara Bareilles.
Starting point is 01:20:35 That's such a beautiful song. And Ingrid Michaelson. Sara Bareilles and Ingrid Michaelson sing that song together, don't they? Oh, you're right. You're right. It's Sara Bareilles and Ingrid Michaelson in that song together. Oh, you're right. You're right. It's Sara Bareilles and Ingrid Michaelson in a duet singing Winter Song. But then there's the Kate Magucci song
Starting point is 01:20:48 with the ukulele that's so sweet. Well, that's the episode, gang. I'm sad it's over, guys. Yeah, you know. Hey now, hey now. Don't dream it's over. Hey now. Don't dream it's over. Hey now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:09 I hate that it's coming to an end. I am now a fan of the show because we've had to watch every episode. You know what I mean? Donald's finally seen the show Scrubs, guys, and he likes it. I have never.
Starting point is 01:21:25 You know what I mean? Donald's finally seen the show Scrubs, guys, and he likes it. Where I have never. You know what I mean? This is, and so because of it, I mean, it is very emotional. It's very, I mean, I don't know how I'm going to react to it in the next episode, but it definitely, while watching this, I was like, I don't want this to end. This is like, you know what I mean? What a crazy exercise we've undertaken to watch this. But even the exercise itself has to come to an end now. Like, that's what I'm, everything, you know?
Starting point is 01:21:53 Like, we're going into something completely different, Zach. We're going to watch the show now, and it's not the show anymore. It's some different imagination of what the show is going to be. You know what i mean and if we do make a reboot we should chronicle um putting the reboot together on this podcast yeah hell yeah that'd be fun well i want to thank joelle and dale not that it's over obviously the podcast will continue but i want to thank you uh for being a part of this. It's been so, gosh, we started beginning of the pandemic in, what, March of 2020?
Starting point is 01:22:33 That is correct. Yeah. Almost four years. Isn't that crazy how long we've been doing this? That is crazy. Four years. Wow. It's been fun to write, though.
Starting point is 01:22:41 So thank you, everyone, for sticking with us and for being a part of this. And thank you. We've still got one got one more I know I'm just emotional Thank you and don't hesitate to tell us when you see us That you listen because it always makes me feel good Especially when people Say that it makes them smile That's all we're trying to do We gotta do something special for the last episode
Starting point is 01:23:01 Maybe you should do a rap for the finale Can you do that? I've been working on it. Oh. He pulled the pad out of nowhere. He's ready. He pulled the pad out, guys. I've been working on it.
Starting point is 01:23:11 We ain't there yet. Like a professional rapper, he pulled a pad out. Wow. I've been working on it. Okay. I'm putting it out there. Just working on it.
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