Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 910: Our True Lies with Kerry Bishé and Eliza Coupe

Episode Date: May 21, 2024

On this week's episode, Dr Cox finds a cheat sheet during a test and locks up the study group until one of them admits the cheating. In the real world, Kerry Bishé, aka Lucy, and Eliza Coupe, aka Denise, join us to recap the episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And he said, no. Please no. I said, please no is what I said. Yeah, but I- As much as I know, listen, I know it's art and I know someone took the time to 3D print this bad boy. No, no, no, I think it's really sculpted. No.

It is. There's only one real sculpture and that's the one they use for the music video. Yeah, but if I gave that to you as a present, everything else is a bust. You wouldn't just, no pun intended, a bust. Get it? Cause it's a bust of Lionel Richie.

Yeah, no doubt. All right, thank you. If I gave that to you, you wouldn't display it in your home. I would not display that in my home. Why not? How about the Kitchen would not display that in my home. Why not? How about the Kitchen Island? My friend, my friend.

Are you serious right now? I think I might get it. It's such a funny conversation piece. It's not a funny, Zach bought me this as a joke for my 50th. People will go, oh wow. I'm sure it's not cheap. You and Zach are close, huh?

You and Zach are close, huh? Daly, you missed it. I was telling Donald that I found online a recreation of the Lionel Richie bust from the Hello music video. I could see it in your eyes. And I wanna buy it for him, but he's unwilling to accept it. I don't understand that part.

She's blind. Right, but yeah. What does he see in her eyes at that moment? You can see into a blind person's eyes, Donald. I still have eyes. Oh my God. Yeah, he can see. And eyes at that moment. You can see into a blind person's eyes, Donald. I still have eyes. Oh my God. Yeah, he can see. And usually them things is white.

Like if Stevie Wonder takes off his- That's a she of cataracts. Listen, Stevie Wonder takes off his glasses that things is white. It doesn't matter what he sees in her eyes is love. He can see it in a smile. Now that I understand. She did a really good job on his head, by the way.

I mean, she really- That's how she sees him. I know, but it's amazing. I think a really good job on his head, by the way. I mean, she really- That's how she sees him. I know, but it's amazing. I think she did it from touching his face, but her work was outstanding. Yeah. And he's a stalker. No, I don't think in that day and era,

the actress would have to be blind, but I feel like today it would be necessary that she was a blind woman. Yeah, probably you try to match. And she would have to really know how to sculpt too. Yeah, she'd probably also have to really be a sculptor. I don't know if she would really need to be a sculptor. Oh, that's fucked up.

That's fucked up. I think she would. I think she'd have to be a sculptor. In 2024, Joelle, she would need to be a very talented blind sculptor. Just like I can't play single in movies anymore, I gotta play freaking married in every movie I'm in now because- That's a requirement?

It's a requi- I'm no longer a single man. Are you allowed to have sex scenes with Casey Lettuce? Oh, you did do a sex scene. What was that show? On the L Word. Yeah. Was Casey okay with that? Yes, very much so. Oh, she didn't mind.

Listen, Leisha has no interest in me. And so that sex scene is purely professional. That shit is going nowhere, okay? So Casey's like, yeah, go ahead, have some fun. Do you think there's an actress that Casey would not be okay with you having a sex scene with? I'm sure there are several actresses that Casey would be like, yeah, go ahead, have some fun. Do you think there's an actress that Casey would not be okay with you having a sex scene with? I'm sure there are several actresses that Casey would be like, listen,

we need to have a conversation about this. It's not that I don't want you to work. It's just that I don't want you to work too hard in some of these scenes. You know what I mean? Right, I hear you. Well, I never saw your sex scene, but I would like to. I have a lot of sex scenes.

I have sex scenes on Scrubs. No, but the L Word one was heated, right? Didn't you show ass? I didn't show ass, no. Have you showed ass in a sex scene? No. I've showed ass in a movie before. I never showed ass. What's the movie for fans that might want to see it?

If you ever go see Homie Spumoni. Oh, Homie Spumoni. And how far into the movie? Do you know the exact hour? I don't. At some point, I know I mooned someone in a hospital and it causes them to drop all of a tray full of knives and are those, knives and- Scalpels?

Scalpels and the things that open up the shit, the clamps, the protractors. You're a fake doctor, you should know what these terms are. Listen man, you know- I don't think it's protractor. Yeah, I think it's forceps. Forceps. Or maybe a retractor, not a protractor.

Protractor is the math thing. Yeah, the math thing, Donald. Yeah, I'm sure that was on the tray too. But for fans of the podcast that would like to see your ass, they can watch Homie's Pomona and maybe just fast forward. It's not a good ass at the time. I wasn't doing squats yet. This is before, this is after Remember the Titans,

but before Kick Ass. And so, I mean, Kick Ass, I had grown man ass. You know what grown man ass is? No, what's grown man? You've got grown man ass now. That's when you like, you're working out at a grown age and your ass is probably hard at some, at somewhere inside the mush, but it's, it's, it's still firm.

It's not, it's like the fat has molded because the muscle is telling, you know what I mean? You got nice ass, that grown man ass. It hasn't turned into a sack of nickels yet. Well, nothing's a sack of nickels if you do squats and you do all the things. That's grown man ass. Ooh.

I've been doing squats. I did squats for a little bit. That shit burned. It doesn't burn. It freaking, it freaking, it's like a Charlie horse to the butt cheeks. You know what I mean? It's not, you know, doing legs is not fun because it hurts and then you gotta get it done. Hold up.

Let me turn. Let me close this. Is everybody recording? Everybody's recording, right? I know, Danil, nobody's recording. You left the room, Danil, and we had to record. Yeah, well, I had to handle something. Handle that shit, Danil. He was making sure our guests were ready.

You know what I felt when you came back in the room, Danil? I felt this. You have been gone for a while. Oh, that's good. Oh my gosh. How you doing Donald Faison? I'm good. You know, my show got canceled.

My show got canceled. My show got canceled NBC. Thank you so much. Do you want to talk about it? I do. Let's talk about it. It was a lot of fun working with John Cryer. Yeah, you had a great time.

I don't understand why it got canceled because the ratings were so high. You told me that that has to do with the- Streaming. The streaming numbers were in high enough. I don't know, man. I don't know anything anymore. What do they tell you?

What do they tell you about? I don't know anything anymore. That's just one of those things, man, where we're not, you know. How do you feel? You know, the shitty thing about having a show canceled is you don't get a chance to say goodbye to everybody. You don't get a chance to just like, you know, you just, everyone thinks they're coming back.

Yeah, that's kind of fucked up too. Like we waited till the end, which is great, I guess. No news is always good news. So you always have hope. And I appreciate the feeling of hope and stuff like that, that this had an opportunity. But still, man, it was fun to work with these two, Abigail and John. Did you check in with them when you found out?

Yeah, you know, there's always a long shot of somebody else picking it up or, you know, there's all of these things, but, you know, I didn't, I wanted to go back to work and work with them because I had a lot of fun. And you learned from great performers and I learned a lot from John Cryer. Well, it's so confusing,

because you had really, really great numbers. And I guess what you're saying is that they told you that even though you had great numbers live on NBC. It's about streaming, man. It's about how many people are watching it on, what is it, Peacock? Peacock. Yeah, you know, that's the, that,

listen, as much as we wanna say network television is important, nobody's really watching it anymore, man. Numbers used to be like, this is 100, man. Numbers used to be like, you know, a 27, if you had 27 million people watching your show, you're a successful show. And if you had the numbers that people have now, if Scrubs did the numbers that the TV audiences watch now,

it would have never made it on television. Yeah. It's just not how people consume television anymore. It isn't. They go, all right, I like that show, that new Donald Faison, John Cryer show. I don't need to watch it with commercials. I'll just watch it the next day without commercials

and I can watch it, I can pause it, I can do, that's just how people consume media now. Right, and if it's not your cup of tea and the streaming numbers aren't the numbers that, you know, the networks which are now streaming services, if it's not what they want, then that's what it is. And I don't think we did what they wanted. We did great, I know we did good on television.

When you looked at the overnights in the 18 to 49, it was really surprising. All you guys who did watch, the fans of the show, yo, I really appreciate you tuning in. It's really nice, man. Like straight up, man, it was great to have a place to perform for people again. And there was a core group of people.

And you know, it's just, it's one of those things where it's like, shit, man, I don't want it to end. And it ended. And now it's like, all right, well. Do you wanna know what the blessing in disguise is? What's the blessing in disguise? If we were to do some form of a Scrubs reboot, there's a world where if this was a hit show,

you wouldn't have been available to do the Scrubs reboot. Yeah, but there's also a world where I could have done both and got both checks. I'm greedy, you know what I mean, when it comes to shit like that. Let's keep it 100. Like, that's one, you know, one of the dopest things I remember before I ever was, I mean, I had acted professionally, but I thought it was so cool that Michael J. Fox did Back

to the Future and Family Ties at the same time. I thought that was one of the coolest things I'd ever heard in my life, because it's unheard of. And I knew this before I was even in the game as a freaking act, a big time actor. I'm not a big time, please, Daniel, don't cut that. But if I could, I would cut that. Anyway. Donald freaking pays on.

I love you calling yourself a big time actor. I thought that was the coolest thing I had ever saw or heard of in my life. He's doing a movie and a TV show at the same time? All right, but in reality, I'm just trying to cheer you up. In reality, I don't know that it would have been work outable, so I'm just trying to say like maybe in the grand scheme of things, even though you had

a good experience, it's a blessing in disguise because now if a Scrubs reboot happens, you'll be available and not tied up on an NBC sitcom. We don't have to pretend you're dead. Yeah, we don't have to be like, oh, it's too bad Turk died. Anyway, hey Elliot, we gotta get out of the way. We gotta get it out of the way real quick

because we can't get the audience sad. We can be like, oh man, Turk's funeral was crazy. How are you, babe? That's how it would be too. It would be just like that. I don't think the audience would be able to take that shit. I'd be like, I think they'd be like, what the fuck? No, I'm being serious.

No, the audience wants Turk. Are you kidding me? No, the audience wants Turk and JD. It's not just Turk. They want Turk and JD. They want JD. They want all of us. JD and Turk and JD. It's not just Turk. They want Turk and JD. They want JD. They want all of us. JD and Turk and JD. They want JD and no, they want Turk and Turk and JD.

Turk and JD. Look, it's Turk and Turk and JD. Turk and JD, yeah. Yeah. It's fucked up, man. Oh man, I saw Billy Joel at MSG last night. Oh, nice. Brother of Pearl, how was that?

It was incredible, man. It was his birthday, his 75th birthday. Wow. How old is he? 75. 75. Wow. And it was his 148th show at MSG. What? Wow.

And he's stopping at 150. Did he do, don't go changing? He did every hit you wanna hear, except Captain Jack. I really don't know why he didn't do Captain Jack, Billy, if you're listening. I know you're a major fan of the podcast. Did he do, Whoa,

for the longest time. No, he didn't do that. Whoa, for the long, I have. It's amazing. Did he do Vienna? Yeah, he did Vienna, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. It's funny what he said about Vienna. He was like, this song was never a hit, but people seem to really love it. So here it is. So beautiful. And he played Vienna, which I know that's so funny.

I love that song. Imagine he did do New York State of Mind. Well, yeah. And actually it's funny. He goes, you know, I'm moving to Florida and whole MSG starts booing. And he goes, I'm 75 years old. This is what people from New York and Long Island do. We moved down to Florida And he goes, I'm 75 years old. This is what people from New York and Long Island do.

We moved down to Florida. He goes, I'm sorry, I still have a house here. That's funny. But it was funny. And then, so he'd be saying that whole anecdote and then he just, then without like stopping, he went into New York State of Mind. It was awesome.

Hell yeah. It was really cool. Some folks like to get away. Yeah. Take a holiday. From the neighborhood. Hop a flight. Hop a flight to Miami Beach. Or to Hollywood.

You remember when I hosted SNL, that was my opening monologue is that I sang New Jersey State of Mind. Oh wow. That's awesome. I'm in the New Jersey State of Mind. Oh, wow. That's awesome. I'm in the New Jersey State of Mind. Oh yeah. You can probably find it on the interwebs

if you like that kind of thing. I don't know what that is. All right, we have a very special show today. Kerry Bichet and Eliza Cooper here. Daniel, have you figured out all the tech? Is this gonna be like Sarah Chalk or do they know what they're doing? They're both ready to go.

Superstar. Count us in, baby girl. Five, six, five, six, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made about a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate. I said here's the stories that you all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our

gather round to hear our scrubs rewatch show with Zach and Dono mmmm get that thunderous applause ladies and gentlemen please give it up for Carrie B. Shannon and Eliza Krook thunderous applause thunderous applause thunderous applause Bob yelling you're going to scare her And Eliza Cruz! Don't do his applause! Don't do his applause!

Don't do his applause! Stop yelling, you're gonna scare Carrie Bichet away with that yelling, Jesus Christ. I couldn't be more scared, so do what you will. Wow, Carrie Bichet hasn't aged an hour, Donald. Not even a little bit. Why do you have wrinkles? Not even a smidgen of a minute.

Carrie, I know we're older than you, but how come we aged and you didn't at all? You're not that much older than me. Oh my God, Carrie, you look like a porcelain doll. Goodness, thank you. This is gonna be lost on all the podcast listeners. Where's Eliza Kuhn, Danel? I'm not sure, just messaged her, so we'll see where.

Okay, we lost Eliza. Carrie, this is Danel and Joelle. Eliza's like, I'm not fucking waiting message her so we'll see where okay. We lost Eliza Carrie. This is Fucking waiting in no damn fuck Eliza's like her character. What up? My god, what's been going on for the last 15 years? I can't think of when the last time we saw you was I feel like it was when the show ended Or at least when we left. There she is. Was there a rampart? Yeah. Holy shit, there she is.

Hello. Hello. What up, y'all? Oh boy. Oh boy. Look at this, look at this. Gosh, you don't look any different either. We need to get their face creamed.

I know, man. Whatever they are doing is working, and I need to get it, man. Shit. Hi, cows. I don't look like y'all. Y'all look great. Holy cow. Have you guys seen each other in the intervening years? No. No. Is that loud? Is it too loud? No, it's perfect.

It's very decisive. No, we haven't seen each other. Where do you live, Carrie? New York City, baby. Where do you live? I live in a different world Are you are you in I live like way down like two hours from LA? Oh, are you now? How did last time I saw you you were in Malibu where you yeah, I was in Malibu then I was in Brentwood Then I was in Topanga Then I moved here to like past Anaheim. You're past the Inland Empire.

Up in the hills. Well, we're so glad to have you guys. We've been talking about you and the show and we've been daydreaming about having you on because we haven't had any guests from season nine. Donald and I have limited knowledge of season nine because I left and Donald was barely there because he was so high.

And... I still smoke a lot of weed. Yeah. I remember a lot of having a conversation with me, like, maybe don't smoke so much weed because things can be so much better. Yeah, you told me. I was like...

We all said that to Donald. And I looked at you and I said, yeah, okay. I've said that to you so many... I'm gonna go smoke some more. I've said that to you so many times, Donald, maybe don't smoke so much weed. And you know what I say to you? Yeah, okay, I'll be right back. I'm gonna smoke some more weed. When you guys look back on your time on Scrubb season nine,

again, cause we don't really know and it was such a different experience for us cause the show was ending. I mean,'t really know and it was such a different experience for us because the show was ending. I mean, well, for me, it was and Donald was sort of tiptoeing out. Was it a good experience? Did you did you have fun? Yeah, I would love to be so honest with you. We'll see how that goes.

But I am terrified of you guys. You guys scared the shit out of me and you scared the shit out of me then. Really? Oh my God, you guys are so scary. You know why? Holy cow, no! You guys are so funny, and that is a language I simply do not speak. What do you mean?

You're very funny. You all, you guys are like true comedians. And I learned so much while I was on that show. But when I took improv class in college, the main thing I took away from it was they were like, always be honest with where you are. If your responses is your character or how you're honestly feeling, then you can't go wrong.

So basically all of my improv characters would just end up crying. They just would cry, because that's always how I felt when I had to do improv. And truly, I feel like that was really helpful to play Lucy in season nine. I feel like her thing was like, she was so pure and wholesome. And when she ran into the realities of life

and like being a doctor, it was like too overwhelming. And if she was ever funny, it was because of this like conflict between her like purity and you know, this like sort of like rough world that wasn't ready for her. I would tell you something right now. Lucy wasn't that pure. Hold on now. We've been told. Hold on now.

Oh, she may have had an unwholesome love of horses. But other than that, I think a lot of horses on that wall. I don't know if you've watched the show since you've been on it, but Lucy was. Yo, Lucy did some crazy. There's bachelor, that bachelorette party shit. There's like a bunch of things that this young was, yo, Lucy did some crazy, there's bachelorette party shit, there's like a bunch of things that this young lady, Cole, had done. Like, this wholesome shit was like, yeah, she loves horses,

but yo, she talks on the phone to her mom, or no, to her dad, while having sex with her boyfriend. Lucy wasn't wholesome. Lucy wasn't wholesome. What's unwholesome about that? Every episode opens with Lucy and Cole having sex or Lucy and Cole talking about having sex. Okay, so just having sex doesn't mean you're unwholesome.

No, no. I mean, are you saying she was like, you know? That's true, that's true. I'm not gonna, no judgements, no judgements. No slut shaming here. No slut not gonna, no judgements, no judgements. No slut shaming here. We noticed that there was some mimicking of couples as they moved into nine, like, you know, cause Elliot was sort of wacky

with her sexuality. And then of course Cox and Jordan were always so mean to each other, kind of like Denise and Drew kind of took over that. One thing, that's one thing we saw as we've been watching this is that they were sort of trying to echo some of the couplings that had worked in the first incarnation.

Well, also, Eliza, you were around season seven, eight and nine, right? And so, right? You did three seasons. I think so. I think, yes, yes, yes, yes, right? And so, right? You did three seasons. I think, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. And so you're coming into this as the new, and you were reoccurring and now you're the,

one of the stars of the show and one that the story is gonna follow. Did that, how did that, how was that for you? It felt like it just all happened so quickly. Like I didn't even get a chance to like process it in the moment. Cause it was like, okay, and reoccurring. Now you're, now you're a series regular.

And then it was just so, everything was so quick. I felt like I didn't process the entire experience until like, I don't know, like a year ago. Yeah. Cause there was so much about, I don't know. I don't know if I was scared of you guys. I was just kind of like- Nah, there's no way you were fucking scared. I was observing, I was observing everything.

I thought you were very tough. Even when I met you like, when you first joined us, if you were scared of us or intimidated by us, you hit it well. I thought that you like jumped right in, and especially when you joined us, whatever it was, season seven. Yeah, no, I don't think, no, there wasn't a,

it wasn't a fear, but then again, I feel like I mask most fear with being really tough when really I'm just, you know, crumbling inside, but. Was this your first big, was joining Scrubs your first big job? It was my second big job. The first one was an HBO show that didn't see the light of day

because of a million reasons. And then I went straight into scrubs. And then you worked like crazy. Then you really took off. And then there was a strike. And then I didn't work. No, I'm just drawing rabbits. Beautiful rabbits.

Are you making a sequel to Watership Down? No, it's just I don't they all face the same direction, don't they? I think they do. Yeah, I have a it's a whole thing. It's just it's a meditation anyway. But no, I there was a moment I remember, Zack, when I don't know, you said something to me, like the first day I was there, and I don't think I've ever been more like, and so then from from that point forward, I was like was like okay just don't fuck up and what

did I say I'm sure I hope I I hope you wasn't like don't fuck up I hope it wasn't like don't fuck up the whole thing's riding on you no I don't remember what it was that you I mean I there was a few things that you said but then I don't remember that specific one but I remember it being a moment of like, oh, okay, I've got to keep my shit together. And then I was just, but you know, that was a happy behind- I hope it was, don't be like dumb.

I think I was trying, I imagine I was trying to be inspiring. I knew that they were going to build the show around you and a couple others. And I think I was probably trying to give advice because they were going to bring in Carrie, but you were like, you were doing so well in the original in seven and eight that I knew that they were going to be you were going to be one of the people they

built it around so I was probably trying to like be you were and you were giving you advice I hate to think that it was that it's scared no no no it was I think it was it was just it was I learned more on that show. Like, I feel like that was more than getting my BFA and acting on that show. And I like, I remember one time that Bill Lawrence grabbed the back of some sides and was like, oh, you know, we need a connecting scene that isn't in the screen.

He just like wrote it on the back of some sides and we had to go shoot it in like 20 minutes. And I was like, oh, okay, oh, okay. And then any show after that just felt like, oh, I can do anything. I can do that. Yeah. Like I remember, I remember the day Bill came down, he came from the writers room. This is season seven. He walks into the writers, he walks in from the writers room. You and the rest of the cats are standing there was me, you guys and, and we're all just hanging out chilling. And Bill comes in and he starts giving everybody, so this is what's going to happen.

And we're all clicked up in our own little cliques. And when he says, this is what's going to happen, it shifted the dynamic of our little group. Like everybody kind of split off. So I remember when Bill came in and he was like, all right, so Eliza, Lee, you two are gonna date. And you guys were on two separate sides of the room and they all of a sudden, it was like, okay.

And then like all the story right there was being unfolded in front of us and it was like, all right, so you guys gotta, let's jump into what the show is. I just remember, I remember that is something Bill would do. You would think it's something completely different and then all of a sudden out of nowhere, you get a page and you're like, wait a second, where the fuck did this come from?

And for me, it's fine because I don't read the script anyway, but I can't imagine for actors, you know, for actors who are- For actors that do take the time to read the script, it's intimidating. It must be very intimidating, yeah. And Carrie, this was extremely hard for you, obviously, because, you know, audiences had so, had, you know, eight years of falling in love with JD,

and there was a big ask to step into those shoes. I don't mean me, I mean the character. People were like, okay, it's a young girl now with their arms crossed. Let's see. I feel as we've been watching it back, what an intimidating position to step into. Did you feel that at the time? Yes, definitely. Yeah, it was one of my first acting jobs also. I, you know, grew up doing theater and that's where most of my experience had been. And so, like, aside from the pressures of coming into this, like, very big popular show and with some enormous shoes to fill,

there was also, like, I was still learning how, like, the camera stuff worked. I remember, so Mike Spiller directed this episode we're talking about, Our True Lies. And I don't think it was in this episode, but there was one episode where he's like, okay, cool, could we have you run in here and, I don't know, can you slide across this desk

and then crouch down? And I was like, I don't know, let's give it a try. So I do it. And like a cup of pencils goes flying and it looks awesome. And I'm like crouching down and he's like, great, awesome. And I'm like, yeah, double high five. And he goes, yeah, that's not what I was doing. I wasn't doing that.

And I was like, oh, sorry. Oh, he was holding up his hands to light up the shot. That's hilarious. Yeah, like that camera thing. And then everybody made fun of him because they were like, that's a cheesy thing to do. It's not a cheesy thing to do. I gotta say.

I'm sorry, you fucking directors. I love you guys to death. But all of this shit with the fucking two fingers like this is the camera, so we're gonna hold it here and do the tip, and then we're gonna drop it down, and then I wanna do some shit like this, and this shit, get the fuck outta here.

Get the fuck outta here. Can I say something in defense of the DGA? Yes. You're not doing it to look cool in the picture. Nobody thinks you're doing it to look cool. You're doing it to show the crew where you want the map box, where you want to put the camera and it's very, it helps tell the crew like, I think it's here and then we're going to come over here and do this.

And then we have this, this, that it's just a way to communicate easily with the crew. It's not like for show. But listen, also if somebody enthusiastically gives you a double high five, I think you just have to accept it. Yes, absolutely. That was cringe on Mike Spiller's part. Spiller could have just said, fucking hell yeah, high five, right? High five.

I ran into him years later at a party and I retold him that story hoping that with the intervening time, he had come to see the humor in it and he did not. Oh my God. He did not. He's a sweetheart. He's a sweetheart. Yeah, so sweet. We've had him on, right guys? We had him back on. Spiller has been on. Spiller has been on.

I saw him recently. All right, we should take a break and then talk a little about this crazy fucking episode that I just don't understand. This episode was written in 1979. Turk has never seen a lesbian. I'm really confused. I'm really confused by this episode. Joelle will help steer us through the conversation of how Turk is excited to meet his first lesbian. I love the fact that Denise says, how queer though. I know, I know. We'll be back.

We'll be right back. We'll be back, we'll be back. We'll be back. A new season of Bridgerton is here. And with it, a new season of Bridgerton, the official podcast. I'm your host, Gabrielle Collins. And this season, we are bringing fans even deeper into the ton. Colin Bridgerton has returned from his travels abroad. Is betrothal written in the stars for the eligible bachelor? Meanwhile, the ton is reverberating with speculation of who holds Lady Whistledown's pen. We're discussing it all. I sit down with Nicola Coughlin, Luke Newton, Shonda Rhimes, and more to offer an exclusive peek behind the scenes of each episode of the new season. Watch season three of the

Shondaland series on Netflix. Then fall in love all over again by listening to Bridgerton the Official Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thursday. Hey, girlfriends. It's me, Carol Fisher. I'm so excited to tell you about the brand new series of The Girlfriends. In season one, we told you about the murder of Gail Katz at the hands of my ex-boyfriend Bob. At one point, a woman's torso washed up on Staten Island and was misidentified as Gail. She spent nine years in Gail's grave, and then she just disappeared. It's almost like it's become this moral obligation to find her.

And that's what we're going to do, find this missing girlfriend and tell her story with the help of some of your favorite girlfriends from Season 1, like my producer, Anna. Oh, my God. My friend, Dr. Mindy Shapiro. Hi, it's Dr. Shapiro and I'd like to speak with the Deputy Medical Examiner. And of course, Gail's sister Elaine Katz.

Having no closure, it kills you. Join us as we try to solve a 35-year-old cold case. It's not going to be easy, but it's going to be one hell of a ride. What? I can't believe this. Listen to Season 2 of The Girlfriends, Our Lost Sister on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Neil Strauss, host of the Tenderfoot TV True Crime Podcast, To Live and Die in LA. I'm here to tell you about the new podcast I've been undercover investigating for the last year and a half. It's called To Die For. Here's a clip. All these girls were sent out into the world and they were told, try to meet important men, try to attach yourself to important men. The voice you're hearing is a Russian model agent telling me about spies sent out to seduce men with political power.

The war in Ukraine is also being fought by all these girls that are all over important cities. For the first time, a military-trained seduction spy reveals how the Russian government turned sex and love into a deadly weapon. If you want to kill your target, it's easy. You just seduce him, take him somewhere, start having sex, and then he's very vulnerable, so you can kill him easily. To Die For is available now. Listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

And we're back! Oh! Yes, they're all fake. The commercials here we don't do for real. Sarichok was a really And we're back! Yes, they're all fake. The commercials here we don't do for real. Sarah Chalk was really flustered by that. She thought that we were going to sit here for the length of two minutes and just chat off camera. Kind of like it was a live talk show.

Like she thought, like, okay, while we're in break, what should we talk about? Oh my god. Oh, cutie. All right, our true lies. Thank you ladies for joining us. Lucy's mom doesn't like Cole. We learned, again, the show always kind of starts off. One thing we've learned from watching the show, you guys probably haven't seen them all in a while, but the show does seem to usually start off with Lucy and Cole and some conversation about their sex life.

Which we learned is very, very, very important to both of them. They have a very, they communicate well. They are very, very. But you know what's funny is that Carrie, there's nothing redeemable about Dave's character at all. I mean, so far- Nothing redeemable? So far, he's very handsome, but so far he's just an idiot.

Well, by the end of this episode, I think he displays some admirable character traits. That was his first turn. That's his first time. Yeah, maybe this is the beginning of his arc where he changes, because we've been waiting for them to be something about Dave Franco's character that was like,

what is Cole gonna do? But do you find him unappealing? No, Dave is- Despite all of his idiocy? He's hilarious. No, it's fucking Dave Franco, man. We the audience find him charming as hell, but it's hard-

We don't find him, we have the audience find him as fuck. We he's the nemesis right now. Everybody that we spoke to is like, he's the Neil Patrick Harris character from the was that show? How I Met Your Mother. He's that character. He's the one that everybody's like, I fucking hate this guy, dude. I fucking hate him. There's nothing redeemable about him.

There's the audience or the characters. That's what we learned. The audience or the characters? The audience is saying this. They're like, I love Dave Franco and he's playing this character so well that I fucking hate Cole. That's what we learned. Yeah. I think Carrie disagrees. Carrie thinks that the audience really loves him.

I go watch Dave Franco do that Cole thing all day long. I think it's the funniest fucking shit in the whole world. You know what? I said the exact same thing. And what I love about it is that I don't need to find him redeemable. I don't need him to be like likable. I mean, me personally, I just think it's so hilarious.

Yeah, he's definitely very good at playing that guy. Denise really, really is upset that Drew says that he loves her. Yeah. That was really rough for her. I don't remember how rough that was for her. She really... It really threw her. I feel like there was so much that Denise hadn't unpacked in her life.

Just so much. She needed to go on a fucking pilgrimage. There was so much that Denise hadn't unpacked in her life. Just so much. She needed to go on a fucking pilgrimage. Well, the two of them. It's like he went for a walkabout and came back thinking, you know what, I'm just a fucked up person. And Denise is like, yeah, you know what, but it kind of turns me on. Because I'm fucked up too.

But she likes broken. She likes broken men. So she was like, yeah, okay. He's got some darkness. But she feels betrayed that he's found love for her. I know. She feels super angry about it. Yeah.

Yeah. Again, she's got, there's not enough therapy in the world for Denise. She needs like ayahuasca. Or ketamine therapy. That's actually something. Or ketamine therapy. Where did I just hear this? Is this something that was just on this show? I know it's very popular in the culture right now is ketamine therapy.

Is that what you're thinking about? I don't know what ketamine therapy, is that the K-hole? One can go into a K-hole, but drugs like ketamine are being used. They're finding it helpful for people with depression and PTSD and the like, you know, done with a doctor under supervision, the right dosages. They're finding it helpful for people with depression and PTSD and the like, you know, done with a doctor under supervision, the right dosages, people are getting really good results from using it in a clinical setting. There's a great book Michael Pollan wrote called How to Change Your Mind.

Yes. There you go, audience, if you're interested, How to Change Your Mind. And it talks about all the... Or just go to Peru and do an eye loss. Get some ketamine. No, no, no, no. Not ketamine. how to change your mind. And it talks about all that. Or just go to Peru and do an ayahuasca. And get some ketamine. No, no, no, no. Not ketamine.

As doctors, as fake doctors, we say do it under clinical supervision, please. Or just lick a toad. Yes. Or just lick a toad. Lick any toad. See what happens. Any toad will give it to you.

Is this true? No, no, there's like a secretion of a particular toad that you like cook down into another psychedelic. You didn't know that you can lick certain toads and you trip out, Donald? No, I thought licking toad... Donald, go outside. Go outside. It's never gonna happen. It's never gonna happen. Find a rift. Smoke some more weed. Find a toad. I will. That's the thing.

Find a rift first, then find the toad. All right, so Denise doesn't want to hear it. Okay, now this is crazy. Let's just go into this. Let me get my fucking notes, shit. Oh, it's about time we're half-houring the show. I'm freestyling this shit right now, dog. I'm freestyling this shit, yo!

Cole can read Lucy like the back of a DVD cover, meaning that let's go back. So this is very important for the whole story. That got a laugh, That got a laugh. OK. What the fuck is a DVD? Well, back in the day, there were DVDs. And then he says that she has very clear tells when she bites her hair, she's lying.

When she addressed her bra strap, what's that one? I'm about to yell at him. Yeah, she's about to yell at him. What does that have to do with the back of a DVD cover? I'm not sure. I think the extent of Cole's reading ability and interest Yeah. nearly encompasses. Oh, instead of a book.

Got it. DVD cover. Carrie, I was impressed by the, I don't know why I was impressed by the bra strap adjustment, because I feel like if that had been me having to do that, I would have been like, wait, what's the best way to do this? And you just did it, it was so natural.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. I had a real moment of like, huh, she just. Good work, fellow actress. She just found me. Four years of acting school. Yeah. At Northwestern, no less.

Very good school. I was also a mime, so I maybe wasn't even wearing a bra. You wouldn't know. Yeah, time out. Because I'm such an accomplished mime. Were you really a mime out? Mime out, mime out. Yes.

Were you a mime, really? Let's mime, let's, let's be mime this. Let's be mime this. I was a semi-professional mime. I was in the mime company at Northwestern, and Zach, I don't know if you're aware, but it was extremely cool. I knew this, you told me this. It was very cool to be a mime. I do Northwestern and Zach, I don't know if you're aware, but it was extremely cool. It was very cool to be a mime.

I do remember this. I remember this. You lead with this a lot. You lead with this a lot. Yeah, you do. Yes, you do. I was once a mime. I remember.

I feel it's noteworthy and it's really excellent acting training, honestly. Can you do some just, can you pretend you're in a box right now? No, dude, come on, bro. I wish I could, but mime is a serious art form. I cannot demean the art form by performing it for you here in this context. That's like saying to me, yo, won't you go animate?

And also I can't imagine. What, what were you gonna say, Carrie? Do you animate things? Yes. No, I don't know what you're talking about. Donald's passion is stop motion animation. And you can see in the back of his screen there, he's got lots of tools for stop motion animation.

Really? That's so cool. Yeah. It looks like he's doing something in the cockpit. I knew this. I mean, he leads with that a lot too. I do lead with that a lot. If you follow Donald on Instagram, it's all he posts is his work. It's his passion.

Well, I love stop motion animation. That's so exciting. I made a little stop motion animation. This was part of the set from my stop motion. It's just a little house. What stop motion animation did you do? Oh, it's just, no, no, it's like a little short film I made.

I'll send it to you later. It's cute. You guys can bond over that. I would love to. Dude, It's yeah, but cute you guys can bond over that. I would love to Dude Cole's mom is a bounty hunter. She comes from a long line of bounty hunters I laughed at that and we just really they really glossed over that one I would have liked a little more backstory on that. Yeah, I did not know this Not only is she about season 10. Yeah, right next year

Not only is she about season 10. Yeah, right next year. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. A new season of Bridgerton is here. And with it, a new season of Bridgerton the official podcast. I'm your host Gabrielle Collins, and this season, we are bringing fans even deeper into the Ton. Colin Bridgerton has returned from his travels abroad.

Is betrothal written in the stars for the eligible Bachelor? Meanwhile, the Ton is reverberating with speculation of who holds Lady Whistledown's pen. We're discussing it all. I sit down with Nicola Coughlin, Luke Newton, Shonda Rimes, and more to offer an exclusive peek behind the scenes of each episode of the new season. Watch season 3 of the Shondaland series on Netflix. Then, fall in love all over again by listening to Bridgerton the Official Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. Subscribe to catch a new episode every Thursday. Hey, girlfriends. It's me, Carol Fisher. I'm so excited to tell you about the brand new series of The Girlfriends. In season one, we told you about the murder of Gail Katz at the hands of my ex-boyfriend Bob. At one point, a woman's torso washed up on Staten Island and was misidentified as Gail. She spent nine years in Gail's grave, and then she just disappeared. It's almost like it's become this moral obligation to find her. And that's what we're going to do. Find this missing girlfriend and tell her

story with the help of some of your favorite girlfriends from season one like my producer Anna. Oh my god. My friend Dr. Mindy Shapiro. Hi it's Dr. Shapiro and I'd like to speak with the deputy medical examiner. And of course, Gail's sister, Elaine Katz. Having no closure, it kills you. Join us as we try to solve a 35-year-old cold case. It's not going to be easy, but it's going to be one hell of a ride. What? I can't believe this. Listen to Season 2 of The Girlfriends, our lost sister on the iHeartRadio app, Apple

Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Neil Strauss, host of the Tenderfoot TV True Crime podcast, To Live and Die in LA. I'm here to tell you about the new podcast I've been undercover investigating for the last year and a half. It's called To Die For. Here's a clip. All these girls were sent out into the world and they were told, try to meet important men, try to attach yourself to important men.

The voice you're hearing is a Russian model agent telling me about spies sent out to seduce men with political power. The war in Ukraine is also being fought by all these girls that are all over important cities. For the first time, a military-trained seduction spy reveals how the Russian government turned sex and love into a deadly weapon. If you want to kill your target, it's easy. You just seduce him, take him somewhere, start having sex, and then he's very vulnerable so you can kill him easily.

To Die For is available now. Listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you think the deal was with Turk being so excited to meet a lesbian? I think Turk is married, right? And when you're married, your sex life is usually what your wife decides the sex life is gonna be. You know what I mean? Like so, or your spouse is, at least in my situation. Okay.

What my, let's put it that way. Let's speak for yourself, I think it'd be important in this conversation. And I think, I think that's what's going on with Turk. And Turk's situation- Didn't you feel it was very dated? Didn't you feel it was very dated to be like, oh my God, I think it felt very dated.

It felt like a sitcom from the 80s to be like, that lesbianism was so taboo and that these grown ass men were so excited to- I didn't look at it asism was so taboo and that these grown ass men were so excited to me. I didn't look at it as it was so taboo. I think I was looking at it as these two were turned on and because of their lifestyle, they don't see it all the time. So when they did see it, they were like this

and they're both hot. Fuck yeah, this is the best day of my life. I'm in a hospital looking at dead people but now I got two hot lesbians in here. I just felt like, to me, it felt very dated for, what was the year this episode? I know, I was just gonna ask that. Really, like, 2009-ish.

2009, it felt like so like, Joelle, what are your thoughts on, weren't you surprised that it was so... That's what I'm gay and all my friends are gay, so I'm like, what's happening here? This is very strange. I didn't understand. It definitely felt, I mean, the LLWords on TV at this point,

you've got Queer Eye, like there's gay people everywhere on TV at this point. And this is a year before Prop 8. So it's just like, as a timing wise situation, it's just a little bit strange. I was just surprised they were so giddy to meet a lesbian couple. Like, it just felt like surprising to me for 2009

or whatever it was. Ladies, your thoughts? Yeah, it was a little, I mean, it was, strikes me as unprofessional, really. I thought it was kind of entertaining. That's more it, yeah, but I mean, these guys aren't, these guys are never professional on this show. We've learned that. The things that they do are very unprofessional. But that's more it.

It's the fact that these guys are so unprofessional about it. Not that they're giddy. Todd literally doesn't know what to say. And he says, I'm Dr. Lesbian. I'll be your lesbian. I threw out a queer in there. Denise? Yeah, you did. I'm salivating. I'm Dr. Lesbian, I'll be your lesbian. I mean, it's just- But I threw out a queer in there. Denise- Yeah, you did. Denise just, off the cuff, off the cuff. That's queer. That's queer, or I called him a queer.

For kissing you. For kissing me. Lucy's ring, oh, so Cox finds a cheat sheet. Here's the big plot point. Cox finds a cheat sheet and the, all big plot point. Cox finds a cheat sheet and all the guys, it's like the breakfast club. They're all being forced to stay in the classroom until the truth comes out.

And that's, didn't you, I sort of thought of the breakfast club when- That's a perfect analogy. Yeah, all the different types of people. Nikki Whelan's really got screwed. She didn't really get much of a part. I don't remember that she doesn't have really much to say ever.

And she's so good when she does speak. It's really shocking. Yeah, she's funny. And they just kind of throw out here that she's dating Trang, who, that's his name I believe, right? That's hilarious, bro. I don't know if I ever knew his name.

That's just hilarious, bro. Babe, you're smothering me. That shit happened. That was very funny. Yeah. Come on, man. That's funny. And we learned that he, something about, he absorbed his sister in the uterus. Yep, yep, I caught that too.

Okay, so, and Lucy's ringtone is Charles in Charge. I know. You guys probably don't even know what Charles in Charge is because it was before your time, but. I remember that. I definitely know what it is. Come on, man. Okay, good.

They know, everybody knows what Charles in Charge is. Nicole Egger. I was just gonna say Nicole Egger. I was like, she's so pretty. Oh my God, I had the biggest crush. Sure, I've mentioned this on the podcast, but Nicole Eggert was my biggest childhood crush. And I wanted to look like her.

I wanted to look like her. Yeah, I'm sure that every, I don't know. I just, she was the prettiest ever. Nicole Eggert. She was almost on the show, I think. But she- Was she? No. Yeah, I remember them talking to her about doing a cameo.

Really? Yeah, it may have been the part that Amy Smart took or something. I forgot. It was one of those sort of love interests for JD characters. Drew's married. Plot twist. Drew is married. I forgot about that.

Yeah, when I watched that. I forgot it. I didn't know. Yeah. I want to watch that. I forgot it. I didn't know. Look, okay. So my favorite couple on the show is Drew and Denise. Maybe it's because they remind me of Cox and Jordan so much. I just like the dynamic that they have.

The, the fuck you, fuck you. I love you. I love you. I like that. I like that type of stuff. That's kind of like how me and my wife are where we give each other shit, but it's all in love, right? Yeah. What was it like working with Mike?

Yeah, you guys had a really good chemistry. I know. He was fun. He was great. He was very professional. And I think we just got it. We got what our thing was, and we both just fell into it really easily. And he was great to work with. what our thing was and we both just fell into it really easily. And he was great to work with. He was really- Did you guys all socialize outside? Because Donald's-

Yeah they did, cause they didn't invite my ass. I didn't. Donald's harboring some- You never invited me if you did. Stop yelling, you're yelling. I never got invited. Donald's harboring some emotions about not being invited to some of the young cast members get togethers.

And I'm not that much older than y'all. That's the first of shit. I don't think we did. I think it's because I called him Michael Mosley. I remember one party, Mike Mosley, through like a Christmas party, and I met his dog, and he told me that he had aspirations of training his dog to be a movie dog.

And then years later, I ran into him, and I was like, how's your dog? And he was like, oh, oh yeah, I got to show you this thing. And he showed me like a short film he'd made where the dog is like playing all the parts and the dog has like a little kerchief. And then the dog has like a military cap and it barks. And then the subtitles are like, show me your papers your papers ma'am and then like it's the dog in the curtain You're my son my child

And I was like, oh my god Mike when you said you wanted your dog to be a movie dog This was not at all when I was pictured how he did the world. Oh, he really did Yes, like an auteur. A manifesto. I'd love to see that. Joelle, we gotta have Mike on and remind him to bring his short film. Maybe we can screen a piece of it on the podcast.

That would be amazing. Just have the dog on. Yeah. Oh, if Mike's not available. That would be a real guess. Mike's not available, but we've got the dog. If Mike's not available, Joelle, book the dog, please. Thank you, thank you, Eliza.

All right, so there's a moment where they're trying to find out more about the woman who's sick, and they go to the internet, and we think it's gonna be like a JD moment, but Cox is like, I'm not like your friend, Dorian, I don't roll like that. So Turk has to go to the internet alone. And he finds out that the woman used to be heavy

and she doesn't want her girlfriend to see her like that if she takes steroids. That's why she's resistant to taking the steroids. And Turk is fascinated that the word, the correct terminology is partner. This is another example of me. I was like, this is so weird that this is so, that this is 2009.

Turk's like, oh, it's partner. Lucy confesses that she's the one who cheated probably because the pressure from her mom who's really pressuring her to succeed. It's always the mother's fault. That's what I've learned. Yes, in this case, your mom, but just like the breakfast club kids,

they've now all bonded and they all stick together and they don't out Lucy to Dr. Cox. I was hoping for the letter. Yeah, where they write a letter. And Cox is reading that shit. And they should end it with Lucy. They should end with Lucy with their hands up in the air. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

Yeah. You guys have no idea what the Breakfast Club is, do you? Have you guys seen the Breakfast Club? Of course. Long time ago. How old do you think we were? Long time ago. Well, Carrie Bichet is looking like she's never even heard the title. No, I just don't remember the ending.

And then the episode ends to a great Alexi Murdoch song, All My Days, which is a beautiful song. That was redeemable. Well, Denise tells Drew she loves him. Yes, that's when the song kicks in. Yeah. Isn't it bad to cheat in med school? Wouldn't you get thrown out for that? Drew, she loves him. Yes, that's when the song kicks in. Yeah. She really deserves. Isn't it bad to cheat in med school?

Wouldn't you get thrown out for that? Yes, I'm sure, but no one outs you. They protect you. So we all stick together. Yeah, because it was your bonding moment. I don't believe that the other, maybe Cole would have, and maybe Mike Moseley's character would,

but I don't know why the others were like, all right, we'll retake the test for you. But they bonded. We all bonded. They needed the characters to be in the room. So that's why. Yeah, it was a bottle episode. They had to make it cheap.

So they had to find a way to get it. It couldn't just be the three of them. They had to add the two other ones. And so. Right. And then they kicked out. three of them. They had to add the two other ones. And so. Right. And then they kicked out and then they kick out the authority so the authority is not witness to the admission also. Right.

Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. A new season of Bridgerton is here. And with it, a new season of Bridgerton the Official Podcast. I'm your host Gabrielle Collins, and this season, we are bringing fans even deeper into the ton. Colin Bridgerton has returned from his travels abroad. Is betrothal written in the stars for the eligible bachelor? Meanwhile, the ton is reverberating with speculation of who holds Lady Whistledown's pen. We're discussing it all. I sit down with Nicola Coughlin, Luke Newton, Shonda Rhimes, and more to offer an exclusive

peek behind the scenes of each episode of the new season. Watch season 3 of the Shondaland series on Netflix. Then, fall in love all over again by listening to Bridgerton the Official Podcast on the land series on Netflix. Then fall in love all over again by listening to Bridgerton the official podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to catch a new episode every Thursday. Hey, girlfriends. It's me, Carol Fisher. I'm so excited to tell you about the brand new series of The Girlfriends. In season one, we told you about the murder of Gail Katz at the hands of my ex-boyfriend

Bob. At one point, a woman's torso washed up on Staten Island and was misidentified as Gail. She spent nine years in Gail's grave, and then she just disappeared. It's almost like it's become this moral obligation to find her. And that's what we're going to do, find this missing girlfriend and tell her story. With the help of some of your favorite girlfriends from season one, like my producer Anna. Oh my god. My friend Dr. Mindy Shapiro. Hi it's Dr. Shapiro and I'd like to speak with the deputy medical examiner.

And of course, Gail's sister, Elaine Katz. Having no closure, it kills you. Join us as we try to solve a 35-year-old cold case. It's not going to be easy, but it's going to be one hell of a ride. What? I can't believe this. Listen to season two of The Girlfriends, Our Lost Sister on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This is Neil Strauss, host of the Tenderfoot TV True Crime Podcast, To Live and Die in LA. I'm here to tell you about the new podcast I've been undercover investigating for the last year and a half. It's called To Die For. Here's a clip. All these girls were sent out into the world

and they were told, try to meet important men, try to attach yourself to important men. The voice you're hearing is a Russian model agent, telling me about spies sent out to seduce men with political power. The war in Ukraine is also being fought by all these girls that are all over important cities. For the first time, a military-trained seduction spy reveals how the Russian government turned sex and love into a deadly weapon.

If you want to kill your target, it's easy. You just seduce him, take him somewhere, start having sex, and then he's very vulnerable so you can kill him easily. To Die For is available now. Listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do we have to keep talking about the episode or can I ask you guys a question? Anything. We can talk about whatever you want. You're our guest. Why are you doing this? Why are we doing a rewatch podcast of Scrubs?

Yes. It's a very funny question. It started at the beginning of the pandemic in 2020 and we were looking for something to do that would be fun. We hadn't watched the show in forever and two women from the office had done one for the show, The Office, and it was become very popular. So Donald and I thought,

oh, we can't do anything else. We're stuck in our homes. This would be a fun thing to do. Kind of rewatch Scrubs. We had it going before the pandemic. That's true. That's true. It had been, we had been, we had been approached about doing it before the pandemic.

And then we actually started the pandemic. And because the pandemic, we had nothing to do. We ended up doing like two a week sometimes. And it just became really fun. It became a way to check in and laugh and tell stories, sometimes about scrubs, sometimes about anything and everything else. And also, it was around a time when like, you know, first responders and everything like that were, you know, really on the front line with COVID and everything. And so this is a show about first responders who were dealing with, you

know, life and death situations. And it really spoke to the medical community once again, which was great. I mean, I don't know if you guys know this, but not necessarily season nine, but one through eight is considered one of the most accurate forms of medical television in the history of medical television. Anyway, and so it really struck a chord with, you know, people who were in the streets with COVID, you know, dealing with COVID at the time. And, you know, it was just, it was therapeutic for us.

Yeah. Also to talk to each other. And then on the side, something we never thought would happen, it became super popular. And so we've just kept doing it and had so much fun doing it. And now we're almost done with watching the show

and the show's gonna change and be more about other things and having guests on and interviewing people. But now we're, we've only got a handful of Scrubs episodes remaining. It's like four left or maybe three left, some shit like that. So in the process of rewatching this work that you did that was like, I mean, life-changing for you guys. This was like a huge part of your life professionally and personally. And it was like 20 years ago, 25 years ago. What are we talking about? Like long time ago? We started you guys Wow. Yeah

Did anything as you rewatch all of it did anything surprise you did you like learn anything? Interesting. Do you have different thoughts and feelings now as you look back at? Well, it was my first time ever watching the show. I never watched the show before. I'm still in the process of watching the show for the first time. Once season nine is over, I can honestly say I've seen every episode of Scrubs. So there's that. But also I realized how good of a show it was.

I took it for granted, man. Keeping it 100 with you guys. I took this show for granted. I feel like I was barely there. I've told this story before. I smoked a lot of weed doing this show. You know what I mean? I was out at the club.

I was enjoying my youth at the time. And somehow Bill Lawrence was able to write around all of my distractions and stuff and create this character that people really respond to. And I'm grateful for that one. So when I look back at it, I'm like, shit, even though I was fucking up, the fact that I was able to portray because of, you know, how great of a writer Bill is. The fact that I was able to do something like that that people like is really awesome. But not just that, like, you know, I got a best friend out of it.

Like, I look back at it now and I'm like, when rewatching, I'm like, damn, I remember the day before this scene, what we did and who we were with. And the fact that there's so many people still wanting to talk about this. this scene what we did and who we were with. The fact that there are so many people still wanting to talk about this and the fact that there's so many possibilities still, it really is, like you said, it's a blessing. It's something that it's, I did a bunch of things before this, but this is the one thing that, you know, has paid dividends in my life and in my bank account.

Forever. For me, it's just very surreal. It's been a very fun exercise to watch, you know, your acting from, one's acting from so long ago and see how, you know, there's, again, I didn't, a lot of times, Donald and I watched these episodes, we don't remember doing them, they're so long ago, you know, so to watch it anew and fresh and go,

oh, that was really funny, or oh gosh, that was bad. And a lot of times, you know, watching all these episodes, you see when I was, I can see as an actor, when I was phoning it in, when I wasn't present, when I wasn't good, or I was too broad, or I was leaning into the joke. And it's really, I think, been educational for me as an actor going, seeing, you know,

the arc of when I'm proud of the stuff I was doing, and when I feel like, oh, you're just leaning into the turn, you were like phoning it in, you weren't present. You know, I can just see that stuff. Maybe just because wearing my director hat, I go, oh God, someone tell him to fucking pull it back. You're joking the joke. But it's just been so fun to see it and to laugh at it.

And there's sometimes Donald and I are just genuinely cracking up at it. And that's when it's really fun, is when we look back and go, I don't remember doing this, but that was so funny. And so it's been a really unique experience. I don't think many people get a chance to do in a little experiment like this. I don't think I watched any of it either.

I mean, I think I'd seen snippets, but to go and watch it, I had a similar experience of like, I was cringing at my acting and I was cringing at my hair and I hadn't had my eyebrows dialed in yet. Like there was a lot of things that I was like, like I would not like looking at that. I was like, Oh my God, but like, I think I was so, it's like, I wasn't comfortable in myself yet. So I feel like I was on top of a lot of things and it was, they are moments, but it was like, I mean, if I go back and watch anything from way before,

it's like, oof, I have so much, I have a lot to say to myself. But I think like you said, like you both I think have said, it was great bootcamp for, it was like grad school. For me, it was like grad school. I learned as a filmmaker and an actor, I learned so much because the way, how quickly we would shoot these episodes and like you said, how quickly Bill would change things

and the ability to just kind of just go, go, go, I think was a wonderful education. But the experience served, it served us all well, I feel like, onto our other projects and stuff. Like I don't, you know, after doing scrubs for so long, I feel like I can do anything. Like I feel like everybody feels like that. You know what I mean?

No, absolutely. What do I need to do? You want me to do what? Yeah. I think I can do that shit, man. Yeah. Because we've had to do so many things on the show. In the spirit of getting your reps in, you know,

we had, we did so much. Yeah. Particularly, Dyle and I did this for nine years. We did so much different stuff in such a short amount of time. So I learned, it's funny, I just recently did a guest spot on a show and I walked on the set and I realized,

gosh, young me would have been so intimidated. I would have been in my head. I wouldn't have, I would have given a half-assed performance because I was thinking, oh God, I don't know these actors and I don't know this crew. And I went in there with such like, none of that fucking shit's gonna matter in 10 months when this airs.

All that's gonna matter is if I brought it or not for the scene. And I really felt that that was such an education in doing this show for so long. You know, like these guest stars that come on and they have one scene and they're amazing. And they didn't know anyone, they didn't know the crew, they didn't know all our inside jokes,

but they came in and they fucking crushed. And now we watching it 15 years later, we're like, what a great actor, what a good job. You're talking about all the different things we got to do and my favorite part about the show is the like genre play part of it. We were doing a medical show and I dressed up as a 1970s roller disco girl.

And Zach, you were a hypodermic needles roller disco girl. And Zach, you were a hypodermic needle on roller skates. We did like a full on like World War I rifles and like PIF helmets. Like the fantasy pops to me are one of the greatest things about the show. My favorite show, my like, I just comfort food rewatch all the time is Mash. And it's so shocking to me to watch Mash and see how much of that is in Scrubs also. They had a whole episode of going into people's dreams.

They had like, I mean, it was like a totally bonkers crazy show and they were also really committed to like medical accuracy on that show, which I also find, yeah. And I think that's one of my favorite things about MASH and about Scrubs is all the comedy comes out of working in a really like a high stakes life and death scenario with like the absurdity of having to grapple with mortality you know, mortality on a daily basis. And not for nothing, I have a lot of doctor friends and they love scrubs. All my doctor friends tell me all the time that scrubs is the, that is the show.

That is exactly what it's like to be a doctor for better or for worse. And I think that's pretty fucking cool. Well, you guys are so good on the show. Donald and I definitely have our thoughts on season nine. And it's just such a transition when the whole writing staff changed and Bill was no longer involved

and it definitely feels different. But I wanna say that time and time again, we say how talented you guys are and how intimidating it must have been to like, and now here's the new cast, I hope you guys like them. I mean, that's really a hard thing to step into, and I think you guys did a really fantastic job. Eliza, you went on to work with Josh Barsall

right after this. It was a happy ending. Yeah. And I was just going to say when we were talking about the boot camp of it all, there's no way I could have jumped into happy endings if I hadn't done Scrubs first. Because that was like rapid fire, crazy. Like, I mean, it was it was everybody's kind of first big thing. So it wasn't that same like we were walking into like with you guys, but it was, it was so, I mean,

the Russo brothers were the directors of the first couple episodes and they were like, we want this to be like the social network. We're like, what? They were like, we want no air in between what you're saying. And we're like, okay, can you do that in the editing room? Okay, but fine, we'll do it. So we would do it.

And it was like, it was nuts. But if I hadn't done scrubs, there's no way I could have executed what they were asking of me. Did you enjoy doing it? How many seasons did that go? Yeah. Three.

Did you have fun? That was three seasons? I thought it were like seven seasons. No, no, it just now plays on repeat somewhere. Somewhere. No, it just now plays on repeat. Some indications of you somewhere. Carrie, you were recently the woman who got bit by a spider back when you were doing research in the Amazon. Yes, I like to think of myself as like,

it's like pregnant Indiana Jones. We just recently learned that that sentence that went viral is you. Yeah. Yeah. What sentence? What is it? Oh, Danil, what's the sentence? I don't have it memorized. In Madame Web, there was a line in the trailer that went viral.

Zekiel Sims. He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died. We didn't have to get super specific about it. It was just a nice trivia moment, Carrie, to know that that was you. Well, I'm glad for you that you enjoyed it. I enjoyed Argo. Thanks. Yeah, Argo was amazing. Me too. Yeah. Well, I enjoyed Argo. Thanks. Yeah, Argo was amazing.

Me too. That was a great movie. That was a masterpiece. Did you guys shoot, you shot that in America though, right? No, we shot that in Turkey. We went to Istanbul. That's what's up. Because you guys were inside the whole time.

Not the whole time. Remember we go to the bazaar and there's a riot in the Bazaar. They got a lot of Persian refugees who were living in Turkey to be the background actors in that scene. We went to do a rehearsal and these guys didn't know, the background actors didn't really know the distinction between the rehearsal and like rolling. So it got so crazy so fast, the whole crew was like,

oh my God, something bad's happening. And then they realized that these guys were just like really bringing it and we were like, oh wow. Oh wow. Yeah, that was pretty. That's an incredible film. I love that movie.

Yeah, that was awesome. Well, we gotta wrap it up. Thank you guys for coming on I hope I answered your question Carrie why this is worth it and why it's something we enjoyed doing. Yeah, I'm well I was Was just curious what got you started and if there was anything you guys like learned by doing it It really did come out of the blue. I want to be honest with you I was at a party and some dude was like, yo, you and Zach should do a freaking podcast together. And I thought Zach would never agree to it.

And then he said, yeah, here we are. Well, what happened was I was aware that the Office Ladies one was, they were sort of the first people to do a rewatch podcast with cast members of the actual show. And I was aware that it was very popular and people were loving it. And so when Donald mentioned it to me, I was like,

yeah, that sounds fun. It'd be like cool to rewatch it and obviously a chance to sit around and joke with him, which I love doing. I never would have imagined it would become so popular, which is now so much fun to just do it every week and check in with each other. I have a science podcast, it's called Hypothetical, and I interview scientists, each episode is like

a what if question, like what if the Yellowstone supervolcano erupted, or what if all the world's digital data was erased all at once? And then I interview a scientist, an expert in that field, and then that interview is scientist, an expert in that field. And then that interview is intercut with sort of a speculative fiction, kind of like a little radio play about people in that scenario. And we sort of use the real science to- I have a question.

Yes, Donald. What would happen if the data was destroyed and was- what does that mean? Well, like money, money, totally gone. And lots of things run on- Not even paper currency? Well, I don't know how you would value paper currency. You got to listen to the episode, Donald. Yeah, don't spoil it.

Don't give spoilers. This is a hook. This is a hook. How do you find the scientists, Carrie? So I have done a lot of science communication. One show that I was on for AMC called Halt and Catch Fire. I played a computer engineer in the 1980s. That got me really into science communication, and that's one of my big hobbies that I do. One of the groups that I work with is called the Science and Entertainment Exchange.

They're part of the National Academy of Sciences. They basically develop relationships with Hollywood people to talk about how we use science and storytelling and how science can be used better in narratives. And there's also a sort of like an inclusion piece. So Gina Davis has called the Institute on Gender in Media, and one of the things they say is, if you can see it, you can be it. So we talk a lot about representation, like women can be scientists. Scientists aren't all old white dudes with crazy white hair.

And that stuff really matters. So yeah, the Science and Entertainment Exchange, they have a phone number you can call, anybody can call, and they'll set you up with a science consultant. That's so cool. Yeah, so it's like 866-Need-Sci, and they'll connect you with a genius, brilliant scientist who can tell you all about your script, how to make it more accurate in terms of whatever it is, physics or astronomy or whatever.

So if you're writing a script, you can call them and they will set you up with the correct scientists to make sure that your science is accurate. That's correct. Yeah. That's so cool. Isn't that awesome? I like that. Me too.

Eliza, do you have a podcast? Eliza, what's your podcast? I do have a show that it is a, yes, I do. It's, it's, we're working on it right now, but it's, it's called the actor and the skater. Cause my husband's a professional skateboarder. So every actor that comes on has to learn a skate trick at the end and every skater that comes on has to read a scene with me.

That's funny. That's fucking hilarious. That's amazing. I love it, I love it. I watch these guys in Union Square Park practicing skateboarding. I don't know that I can do any of those tricks. We could do it, yes we can.

Oh, your guys are coming on. You don't even have a choice. We can totally do it. There is another option. There is another option. You can learn to say, like if you have, have you ever heard like skate tricks and what they sound like?

Like that whole word, like that whole vocabulary is insane. Skate! You would have to like. Ollie. But yeah, there's that. Kick flip. Donald knows Ollie. There's a Yeah, there's that. Kitslip. Donald knows Olly. There's a whole combination of them that sounds like,

to me I'm like, I don't, it's like German. And then you could say that. And then Billy would do the trick. All right, that's awesome. That's another option. Doug, but I see old folks at the freaking skate park now, man. Our age, I asked, this dude was like 65 years old,

learning how to skate. He was doing the fucking ramp and shit like that going back and forth. He wasn't doing anything crazy, but we could do this shit man and it's good on the body. It's like a balance on the abs. Skateboarding is good on the body. I don't know if that's true. Don't know that anyone ever said that. All right, gals. Thank you. We love you. Thanks guys.

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