Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - A Zach's Mom Classic

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

This week, we're revisiting one of our most heartfelt episodes - when Zach's mom dropped by to talk about her new book and give some parenting advice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Did you get a little trim trim? Man, I'm working on a show right now. I'm always getting haircuts. You look good. I'm not going to blow smoke, but you're looking fine. You can blow smoke if you want. I will blow smoke all over you. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, boy. And I will watch it ripple all over my curves. All through your crevices and nooks. We need to get this out because we're about to invite my mom on the show. Any naughty talk needs to come out right now. Okay, well, I'm going to say this. Your mom's book made me cry. Yeah, me too.

Me too. Dude, it made me cry a lot. I was sitting there like, wow, this is... And I just read it before we did the show. So as I was walking up the stairs, I was like, get your shit together, motherfucker. Get it together. Tell her that because that'll really move her. And of course it made me cry too. We today guys are going to have my mom on the show and welcome, welcome, welcome. And we're going to be shifting

a little bit because Donald and I are both going back to work. So our one-year pandemic job is going to have to shift a little bit. We're doing this on a Sunday afternoon. Thank you, Joelle and Dale, for accommodating us. Easy. And then we're going to have a big old party with the live show, which is Friday the 26th. So we're skipping an episode, but we're going to come back to it later on, I guess, is what's going to happen. If you have a ticket to the live show, technically you will still get

two shows this week. I'm just saying. You'll have to come, but if you're going to miss it... So please don't yell at us for going back to one show here and there, because we just can't. This has been so awesome, and don't think we don't love doing it, but we're so thrilled that we actually have a

chance to do some of the work we really do and love to entertain you, our acting. And so we're going back to work for reals. Yes, yes, yes. But we're going to keep the show going because we love doing it. So it might not be twice a week all the time. It might just be once a week. We also want to have the fun of folding in special guests like Donald's mom and my mom and lots of – we talked to all the stuff we've told you about, about people from the show, the stand-ins. Joelle is working on contacting the stand-ins and some fun crew members and all that stuff. So I just wanted to – let's just go through a couple logistics for the live show because I did see there were tons of questions on my Instagram, and I'm sure Donald, yours as well.

I'm off Twitter, but Joelle, I'm sure you're getting Twitter questions. So fill in any blanks. The answer is it is totally not global. What do they call that? Global locked? Global locked? Geo locked? What's that term?

I don't know. I don't know. Well, some people ask if it's geo whatever. The point is you can watch it anywhere. Stade, Kenya, Italy. There you go. Uzbekistan. Probably not North Korea, I'm guessing.

I'm sure you could. If you were in Wakanda, it's playing in Wakanda. Yes, in Wakanda it's available. Everywhere it's available. Now, you might say, but Zach and Donald and Joel and Daniel, I can't stay up in the middle of the night. That's fine. If you buy a ticket, you can then listen until April 2nd. Right, Joelle?

Yes. It's a full week after it premieres. So I believe that's April 2nd. So you get a week to listen to it. Sorry, watch it. Watch it. Now we have been outfitted with dope mega cameras so we're gonna look so pretty we're gonna look as we're gonna look our prettiest also donald and

i are both getting in shape to act so we look as handsome as we've ever looked well i don't look as handsome as i've ever looked i disagree i'm on the road you're looking good buddy you're looking fine you looking fly you are you are a gentleman and a scholar there's going to Bill Lawrence is our is our main guest

he's very excited he called me with so many questions from London he's returning he'll be returning from Ted Lasso production to come be on our show

and and that's it I think it's going to be roughly two hours is what we're aiming for it'll be if you're in North America it will be six on the West Coast, nine on the East Coast. And, of course, for all the other countries, you just have to Google the time difference between you and Los Angeles.

And you can watch it live. And if you're in the middle of the night and it's asleep, you can watch it the next day or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Joelle, anything I'm forgetting to explain to people that might have questions? I don't think so. It's 10 o'clock. You guys can come in. We saw people in the chat already. Yeah, the chat is up and running.

So if you want to get in the chat, go for yours. Not that we'll be up in there, but, you know, there'll be other fake doctors, real friends fans in there. So if you want to chat with your peers. Go right ahead. The sound machine will be labeled, so I won't accidentally hit the wrong thing. Wu-Tang forever. Forever ever? All right, let's go ahead and let's invite my mom in.

Should we get into the show? Oh, yeah, let's count us in, baby. Five, six, 7, 8. I said stories about a show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses And a janitor who loved to hate I said he's got stories that we all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our

Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald Oh my god, I'm nervous. Hi there. Hi, Mommy. Hi, I'm just making sure I'm doing this right. Mom, don't worry. About 98% of the people we have on have trouble connecting. So don't worry.

Especially Sarah Chalk for some reason. Yeah, Sarah Ch sarah chalk every single time well i'm in good company yeah say hi to donald because i haven't really said hi sweetheart how are you hi how are you it's good to see you good to see you too right on i i before we're all off and everything i got to get my wife up here because she's going to want to say hi, too. She found out you were on the show. She was like, don't let me. Don't forget to come. Tell my mom. We're going to get to her book.

But tell my mom what you said the second you got on. Your book made me cry, like weep, like cry. I had a really strong emotional response to it. Oh, that's interesting, Donald, because that's why I couldn't get it published by traditional publishers. They said that parents wouldn't buy it because it was too sad. Oh, I didn't think it was too sad. I just, I never really looked at it from the kid's point of view. I always, you know, being a divorced parent, you always look at it from your point of view and how, you know, how you feel. And it just broke my heart that the kid

was hurting for a little bit, but she had such amazing parents that they were willing to work it out. And it wasn't like that when my parents got divorced, you know what I mean? And it wasn't like that when I got divorced and it was so, it was so refreshing to see a family that was able to do it. And so it wasn't like some of it was sad but some of it was like joy like wow like you know if they could get this together you know maybe i could have gotten it together uh well i wanted my ex-wife i wanted the parents to be kind of a model for parents reading the book yeah so they could well, what could we try any of this? Could we try something? You know, because it really is, you know, there's a lot of research on this and it really is better

for the kids if the parents can remain respectful to each other and generous to each other. Well, let's just dive right into this because it's just happening naturally. We want to talk to my mom because she's my mom and we love her, obviously. Donald's like a part of the family. And talk about my mom's experience of what Scrubs was like from her point of view and maybe some funny childhood stories.

But the first thing, one of the things we wanted to have her on was my mom is a wonderful psychologist who's occasionally I give out words of her wisdom to all of you listeners. And when I was a child, she wrote a popular children's book about adoption for children called The Mulberry Bird. And if you have an adopted child, I can obviously highly recommend that book. It's very, very popular for adopted families.

But recently, my mom, as she will discuss and tell us, noticed that she was having trouble finding the right book to discuss divorce with your child, roughly ages six to 10, and decided that she would set about to write one herself. So what is it, mom, that you thought wasn't out there for parents? I don't remember when you and dad got divorced really any children's books that were, I mean, obviously you were skilled as a psychologist to handle it as best as you could, but tell everyone and us what came to your mind when you said, I want to create something everyone and us what, what, what came to your mind when you said, I want to create something that will help parents talk to their children.

Well, it's a similar story as, uh, as existed for the mulberry bird. And that is, that is a story that tells us the child, what happened with the birth mother. And there were no books for children about adoption at that time. And there's still very few where the birth mother. And there were no books for children about adoption at that time. And there's still very few where the birth mother's story is told. And that's the story the child really wants to hear. So when I thought about the falling downtime, I thought, well, the children's books that exist for divorced, divorcing parents to read now are based on the parents wish for the child to be okay the parents profound wish that they aren't hurting their child and so they're all pretty cheerful like it's going to be okay you're going to have more toys you're going to have another bedroom

you're going to go to do this and that and it's all very, you might be sad, but it's all going to be fine. Yeah. So I thought I wanted to write a book from the child's perspective, which would, first of all, show what the child remembers, everything being all right. And for a child, that's what they remember. And suddenly, for some reason, things are not all right, and they don't know why. Yeah, that was also what I think triggered my emotional response. Everything was so vivid, and the memories were so vivid in the beginning.

And specific. Yeah, so specific. It was like fresh in the child's head. And, and then all of a sudden there was this shift and the kid didn't know what it was, but just everything wasn't the same. And I imagine they very often internalize that and make it that they did something wrong. That's a very common response for children to have is that this strange thing is happening. And their parents, I think one of the reasons they think they've done something wrong is their

parents become quieter and sadder and more distant. And these observations sort of resemble when their mom or dad has been mad at them in the past so they think oh i've done something surely this couldn't have happened just out of the blue uh i must have done something children are very egocentric they think that the world revolves around them i never thought of it in the context before of like oh when they're behaving the same way they behave when they're mad at me because because they've gotten quiet and they're not as, I don't know, silly and effusive or whatever. Exactly, exactly. So that is why I wrote the book. And the book is called The Falling Down Time, One Child's Story About Divorce. And it is available on Amazon. And it was written by

my mom. And it is, talk a little bit to mom about people who say, well, I, you know, I'm hearing Donald say he cried. I'm hearing you guys say you were emotional. What do you say to the parent who say, well, I don't, I don't want to face my child's sadness about this. I want the, you know, I imagine parents are nervous about doing the honest sort of emotional children's book as opposed to the chipper one, you know, about you'll have two sets of toys. Yeah. Well, that's a really good question because that is a challenge for parents. It's a really big challenge for people who are divorcing to be able to say, what can I possibly do that would be good for my child? And what you can do, one of the things you can do is let them feel what they're feeling. Don't hold it.

Don't push those feelings away. Right. And it is going to, as a parent, you are going to feel terrible about this at times, but something terrible is happening in your life and in their life. And to pretend that that's different is really a kind of abandonment, really. It's kind of walking away from the child into what you need. And it really isn't about what you need right now. It's what your child needs. Yeah. It's like the parent doesn't want to deal with the emotion because that's really hard. So but you're saying that that's, you can't, you can't abandon the child's emotions. You have

to face it straight on. Yeah. You can, you can abandon them, but it isn't good for them. Right. Right. It's very interesting. My kids and I, we had a really rough time after my ex-wife and I got divorced. And we're all good now, but I remember thinking, oh, we're probably never going to see each other again, or we're probably never going to talk again. I remember we talked about that at some time, at some point. And now, I mean, now my kids live with me and, you know, it's amazing how things shifted. But I do, at the end of the book, when, you know, when the child gives encouragement to other kids, you know, from what I understand, a lot of kids go through this and they all turned out pretty well. That was also one of those moments like, yes, you're absolutely right.

And I got emotional about that because my kids are with me now. And I remember there was a moment when that wasn't a possibility. And I didn't see and I couldn't see that light at the end of the tunnel. And now, you know, I think one of the things that's so special about your book, too, mom, is like like Donald said, it like an episode of The Simpsons in a comedic way is funny to kids on a kid level and adults are getting stuff that's going over their head. I feel like the falling down time is is is good for for both parents and kids. The kids are going to get their version of the story. And the parents, like Donald is saying, as a parent of divorced children, is going to get their emotional, but sort of a guidebook in a small sense of how you could behave in a healthy way for the child,

but told from a child's point of view, which I thought was really, really well done. Thank you. Thank you. That's my hope. Yeah, you're such a good writer too. And I know you're saying, listener, that I'm biased, but she is such a good writer too and i know you're saying listener that i'm biased but she is such a good writer my mom how about this get the book how

about this go out get the book and then be the judge for yourself all right how about that get the book it's on amazon but my mom's the kind of person that will write you like a thank you note and you've got like tears in your eyes because it's so beautiful. You're such a good writer. Let's segue a bit, mom and talk about what, what Zach, let's talk about Zach. Yeah. Let's switch to me.

Enough about the book. Let's switch to me. Enough about me. No, but I thought, I thought that, you know, for listeners who,

who are here because they love the show scrubs, it might be interesting from a, from your perspective, you know, what was it? What was it like? Do you remember the day I called you and said, I've been trying to be an actor since I was a child,

and we can talk about that too, but do you remember the day and what your feelings were? I had six callbacks for Scrubs. Do you remember that whole process? I do. I do remember, and it was very, very exciting. And the interesting thing is I look back on it, it was hard for me to put it into a context because to me, you had been successful at that point for a long time.

And I didn't really, until you helped me understand it, realize what a big deal it was. Wait, why did you think I'd been successful for a long time when I was a waiter, when I got the part? I mean, not to diss waiters, but I was barely surviving on money. But the success for me was not about money. It was about your abilities and your talent. And you had been getting callbacks since you were 14 years old, a lot of callbacks. You'd been auditioning from that age.

years old, a lot of callbacks. You'd been auditioning from that age and people were calling us in to talk to us and tell us maybe you weren't going to get the part, but you were fantastic. And so we were hearing as parents that you were very, very talented. And I really only, I honestly thought it was only a matter of time. Oh, really? You never told me that. I like to hear that. Yeah. I didn't know. I didn't know. I mean, it's so stressful for parents. And I'm sure if you're a parent listening and your child is pursuing the arts, you know, you want to support them and you want to love them. And of course you want them to follow their dreams, but there has to be nerves like, oh, I hope that they can make a living at this. Of course. Okay. But how do you handle it if your kid doesn't have it and you're getting the feedback of well this might not

be yeah but you can't crush but that's up to the child i mean the child the young adult or the adult to decide when to give up you get the parent i mean we're talking i'm telling the psychologist what to think but it seems to me the parent can't decide that you have to let the kid or the young adult figure that out but there has to be some honesty in there, too, doesn't there, Zach? Don't you have to be like, okay, well, I'm not trying to crush your dreams. Comma. But they said you sucked. Comma, but.

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How does a parent deal with this? Well, there's a couple of things on the table here. One is Donald's question about how do you help a child when you really, you know, you look at each other and say this, this isn't happening. You know, I think conversations about that, that aren't really like, well, why don't you go into something else, but let's talk about a whole lot of things you could do with what you know how to do. a whole lot of things you could do with what you know how to do. Let's make a list. And that segues into what Zach is saying is that if your child is wanting to be a dancer, but isn't a good enough dancer to be making a living at it, well, there's a lot of things that surround dancing and performing and those kinds of things could be taught. Being an usher. and those kinds of things could be being an usher. No, mom, I think I have this in my mind because you always probably helped me,

helped me figure this out, which was like, you know, you, there's some, there's a myriad of things you can do that aren't the exact thing aim for that goal, but then, but then have things lower on the, on the pyramid that, that are things you, you, you will be skilled at at that point that you can also do. I don't think that I helped you figure that out. I'm going to tell a story now from a long time ago that you've heard before, and Donald probably has. This illustrates that you knew from a very early age that there were other things. that you knew from a very early age that there were other things.

When you were seven years old for your birthday, you asked us if we would buy you a curtain to hang in the TV room. Center of the TV. Oh my God. Well, the curtain guy, the curtain guy must've been like, wait, what? In the middle of the room. You really want the curtain in the middle of the room? Do you remember? Was he like, you want to put a curtain in the middle of the room? I don't remember that part.

But you also said that was not the only gift. You wanted clip-on lights from the hardware store. And you wanted a light board. Yeah, a lighting board. Do they have a home lighting board for kids? That is so sweet. You made one. I did.

By the way, Donald, listen, I made one. What I did was she got me the clip-on lights, and I took multiple, you know, those things that are meant to go in the timers. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. The thing you put in the old days when you were going away and you wanted are meant to go in the timers. No, no, no. The thing you put in the old days when you were going away and you wanted your lights to go on and off, you put a timer. So I would rig the clip-on lights with gels on them to those timer lights and I could flick the switch on the timers. That's true. Sorry, Mom.

Go ahead. No, it really was true that you knew at that age, you were seven years old, that there was something exciting about the theater and about performing. And then you engaged your siblings in making dramas, and you called it the Bradford Zinsky Theater. And you actually sold tickets when we had a dinner you didn't say could i you were out on the front porch with the tickets trying to make that money i got that hustle early donald my mom's just trying to have a dinner party i'm out front charging tickets to a play that the guests don't want to go to can you imagine can you want to go to.

Can you imagine you go to your friend's house for dinner, and you're like, oh, it's cute. He's selling tickets to a show. And then dinner's over. You're like, wait, what? We really have to go? Like, we have to go to the show? Were you selling tickets to the guests for dinner,

or were you just selling tickets to random people walking down the street? No, no, guests for dinner. But little did they know that they had come to dinner theater. And after dinner, there would be a play. And they weren't always short plays. Right, Mom? Sometimes they had gravitas and depth. They were a little bit convoluted at times. Yes.

And your older sister and your younger sister were a cast of characters. Yes. You didn't have too much to work with. Oh, my God. I remember this, Mom. And I got to tell you, just another kudos to you for being a great mom that when I said, can I have a curtain in the middle of the TV room? You said yes.

And we did so many plays. By the way, if you have a child, you don't have to put it in the middle of the room. Or if they have a playroom, you could put it like one third of the way through the room. But I got to tell you, this curtain that was probably not super expensive, we got so much joy from just the idea of we're putting on a show. And we can pull the curtain and do a show. And that was the big feature of it was it had to be a curtain you could pull. Yeah. So that's what it was. We got so many hours of joy out of that damn curtain.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, I was also into the tech, you know, as you know, I was into the technical theater. So these shows would sometimes have elaborate set changes that the audience would have to wait while me and my little sister were changing the set behind the curtain. Amazing. Okay. So let me ask you a question. You knew you wanted to be in theater. You knew you wanted to be a performer of some sort. When did you realize you wanted to tell stories too, though? When did that become part of the game? That's a good question. I have an early memory

of standing in front of, I think it was fifth grade. We had been given an assignment that we were going to read a story. I may have told this before in the podcast. We were told to read a story, and we were going to read it. Those who wanted to could read it in front of the classroom. And I wrote my story, and I included the characters in my story were kids in the class. and I included the characters in my story were kids in the class. So I made them the certain kids in the class that were, you know, popular or, or everybody liked, I kind of made them the protagonist. And then when I, and it was funny. And I, when I read the story, the whole class,

including the teacher were belly laughing. And I remember like looking up being like this feeling of, I wrote this at my desk and all of these kids, including that teacher, are cracking up is like was like a eureka moment for me. Like, oh, I want to keep doing this. Like this, not only performing it, but the fact that these are my thoughts, that I said Naima Johnson did something funny on this adventure that I'd made up, whatever it was, it was a great feeling. And I think that it sort of just kind of dovetailed into all the things I was doing,

the community theater, the camp, and stuff like that. Did you get a lot of calls from school about how creative your son was, Anne? When he was in school, he didn't do a lot of theater. He did theater camp in the summer. But one story I do remember is when he was in high school, he was very active in the television and radio station they had at the high school. AFV. What was it?

What did you call it? Um, well, in college, it was called RTVF. I forgot what the, what the high school version of it was. Which is where you roll in the TV. Oh, the AV squad. The AV squad. I told everyone, Mom, about how I was – when I was younger, I thought I was so cool because I was on the team that would roll the projectors into the classroom. And I just – I thought I was Fonzie.

I just thought there was nobody cooler than me because I was wheeling that projector into the classroom. There you are. I mean, yeah. But go ahead. Tell the story about yourself. The story is that there was a news program that was on a local station, you know, that they had in the community. And so they did a real news program, I think, every week, Zach? I don't know.

Yeah, something like that, yeah. Anyway. I remember it know. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Anyway. I remember it was Channel 35. Yes. And you were, I guess, for a series of them or a couple of them, you were the director. Yeah. And you won Director of the Year in high school at Yale. My first award for directing.

Yes. in high school at you. My first award for directing. Yes. And this is one of the moments I remember being very proud of you and it's happened since then, but this was one of the first, the man who ran the program came over to me afterwards and said, you have no idea how wonderful he is with all the people who are doing this program. He's talking to them through the microphone and telling them they're doing a great job. He's telling them that was wonderful. I love that. When they make a mistake, he's telling them, don't worry. He's whispering to them. And he said, I never saw anything like that. So it made me very proud of you as a person. You brought tears to my eyes, mom, because I, I love that you told that story,

but also I was a very happy time. You know, I did feel quite alienated in high school, as you know, I had friends and everything, but I just couldn't, I wasn't into sports and I couldn't find my thing. And, and in that TV group, I found my people and in directing, I found a thing that really lit me up. And, uh, I have really happy memories from being there. So I just have to say one more thing that every time I visit one of your

sets, you've been going for a while. You all know each other. The thing is humming and somebody, at least one person, often more come over to me and say, your son is running a beautiful set here. We all love each other and we love him. And that's a beautiful thing. And that started with that director in high school. Yeah, Mr. Mullen.

Yeah. Shout out, Mr. Mullen. I bet you never thought you'd get a shout out, Mr. Mullen. Mr. Mullen, I don't know if you'll listen to the, i truthfully i'm not even i'm not even sure if he's still with us but he was a wonderful teacher and uh and uh it was a great experience um wow i wonder if any of my teachers listen to our podcast if you do and you failed me and you thought i wasn't going to amount to anything in your face oh my god yeah in your face look at that i remember i had a teacher that um my charms didn't work on her and she she this was at the height of family ties i think and and i thought i thought i was uh i thought i was a little like alex p keaton and and and but

this is so she she came uh she we were all waiting outside the class and she showed up late and i think i was like trying to be like a funny wise ass and i was like pointing to my watch like and she turned to me and she said zach i'm really not into the whole alex p keaton thing oh i never forgot that oh that had to feel good. It hurt my feelings that she didn't think my Alex P. Keaton-esque charm was charming, but I did. But the fact that she knew that you were doing Alex P. Keaton without you being like, I'm doing Alex P. Keaton. No, I mean, whatever. I'm saying I was trying to be. That's the silver lining right there. The silver lining is,

freaking, I'm a genius actor, impressionist, because I was playing a character and you picked up on it. Yes, you got what I was going with. Wait, I was thinking about something. What were we talking about right before that? We were talking about you, bud. Yeah. I blanked on something.

So, Mom, what was it like? Go back to, obviously, I wanted to talk about Scrubs. Do you remember when I called you? I think you were the first call I made when I, because after my sixth audition for Scrubs, I had a Motorola StarTech, if you recall those, and I put it on the, I had been told that I would know sooner – I'd know probably today or tomorrow. And I put the Motorola StarTech, I remember, on the passenger seat of my Nissan 240SX. And I just started driving on the 101 freeway. And my phone rang. And it was – I believe it was Bill Lawrence who said, I'm not supposed'm not supposed to tell you because, uh, every other people want to tell you, but, uh, you got it. And I'm so excited. And I was freaking out. And I said, you know, I knew that you would be my first call. So do you, do you remember that moment at all? I do remember the call exactly. And I remember, I didn't know about all the callbacks. I didn't

know the process at all. Cause I think you were kind of holding back um because it was very big and I don't think you wanted to get us all excited you know yeah then be disappointed um and it's not like that phone call when you got to tell your mom I didn't get the part so I'm sure you heard I know and I think I had turned but with both of my parents I think I'd gotten to a place you know I was waiting tables I was in a lull you know being an actor there's highs and lows at all stages and at this stage I had gotten some indies and I'd gotten some stuff but I was kind of at a lull I was working as a waiter and I didn't want them to get excited before there was any you know so I would I would even if even when I was six auditions in I was probably minimizing

it because I didn't want to disappoint them, you know? Yes. Yes, I'm sure you were. But it was very, very exciting. And then what I think happened was that it grew on me. You know, I began to realize over a period of days and even weeks what this was going to be. Just the first season. You know, we didn't know, know of course that it would be many seasons and then the you know it started to do very well you know the ratings were extremely good and and

and it was exciting very very exciting and i remember bringing sarah home uh we were going to the upfronts which we've talked about here a bunch of times and sarah came over to the house and you everyone instantly fell in love with Sarah, as you do in real life. And I remember at one point, you know, I had had girlfriends that weren't exactly helping around the house that much as a mom would like. And I remember Sarah was over just as a friend,

but there she was at the kitchen sink doing dishes from dinner, and she called out. She was like, did anyone let the dog out? And my mom was like, I love her. I remember that. Zach, I remember that. I remember Sari doing the dishes and calling over the water, did anyone let the dog out? And my mom turning to me like, I love her. Oh my God. You can marry her right now i know well she is uh she is

uh quite a catch and um and uh we we we miss her she's coming on the show a bunch but we we don't see her that much because she's in canada well tell me about do you remember visiting set for the first time and what that was like? Yes, because it was like nothing I had ever done before in my life. You know, I'd never seen a set of that size and complexity. Oh, wait, pause. Look who it is. She is my sweetheart. I'm good. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. It's wonderful to see your face. Well, thank you.

I just took my anti-aging face LED mask off. Oh, that's why you look 14. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It works. In the closet with your headphones on. Yeah, Mom, I don't know if you know this.

I know you listen to the show sometimes, but this is Donald's home studio in their walk-in closet. I definitely know about the closet. This beautiful dry cleaning. Yeah, we always get to see when you've picked up the dry cleaning. I was actually thinking about it this morning. I was like, I need to redo the closet for this live show. Now that we have HD cameras,

everything is going to be clearer. Oh my God, that's so scary. We got to figure something out this week. Anne, congratulations on your book. They're so cute. I love looking at them online. They're just adorable. Oh, they're ready to come visit you whenever you want.

Oh, that would be so good. Now we're coming out of this terrible time that we are all in and we can visit together. I know. We miss you so much. We haven't seen you in so long. Last time we saw you was like Zach's birth, like a little bit after, was it?

I don't know. It will have been over a year probably. My birthday is April 6th coming up. Those of you who want to shower me with presents. No, we know. Everybody know. Make sure it's in your calendar, Casey. Make birthday is April 6th coming up. Those of you who want to shower me with presents. No, we know. We know. Everybody knows. Make sure it's in your calendar, Casey.

Make sure it's in your calendar. It's on my calendar every year. It's April 6th. Definitely. All right. We got to go because we have a call. Okay. I love you, Anne.

Tell my mom that she's wonderful. You are a winner. I tell her all the time. I tell her on Instagram all the time. We liked each other from the first moment. Yes. Always. Because Casey's other from the first moment. Yes, always. Because Casey's the kind of woman who'll say, did anyone let the dog out?

No, Casey won't say, did anyone let the dog out? She's not a dog. I don't even know what that means. It wasn't there. So we have a caller, guys? We should go to break first. Let's go to break. We're going to go to break,

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Back. All right. We're back. We're back. We are back. And Joelle, bring in the caller to answer the caller's question. Say hello to Chrissy Martell. Give it up for Chrissy Martell!

Where's your thunderous applause, Chrissy? We're giving you thunderous applause. The soundboard works. I am so excited. This is like a dream come true. Oh, you're very sweet. We're so happy that you're here and that you're willing to come on. And so you've got, you see Joelle and Daniel. I don't know where the boxes are for you. That's Donald, who you recognize. And that beautiful woman with the scarf is my mom, Anne.

Hello. It's so, I'm just honored to meet you. It's so exciting. That's amazing. Well, we're glad to have you. Where are you calling from, Chrissy? Aurora, Illinois, a western suburb of Chicago. Chicago in the house. Okay. I know why Joelle got you on the line. Chicago natives stick together. You Illinois girls stick together. Yes. If you're from Illinois and you write in, you're way more likely to get picked if you brag about loving Illinois in the subject. Just brag about that or brag about Northwestern. One or the other.

Well, I don't read them. Joelle does. So maybe you could say that you love Rebels. You love Ganja. You love all things that Joelle might enjoy. PS5. Ganja's legal here now, so, you know. Oh, nice.

Welcome to the club. New Jersey, too, by the way. Um, all right, listen, Chrissy, we had you on because, um, we have the gift of having a brilliant, uh, child psychologist here who's written a new book called the falling downtime, um, which is aimed to help children roughly six to 10 mom, uh, deal with, uh, helping with helping parents talk to their children. And we had you on because I understand that you're going through a divorce and have children of this age. And we thought maybe you could ask my mom a question that would help facilitate

more conversation for people that are in a similar place. So go ahead with your question. I would love to. Is it Dr. Brudzinski? You can say Ann. Please call me. Well, Ann, it's a pleasure. So yes, I am going through divorce. I am also a divorce attorney. So I was telling Joelle, I'm going the DIY route, representing myself. Um, but you know, it's, it is what it is. And this has been a tough year for a lot of parents and a lot of parents of kids with special needs, which I happen to be. Um, I have two children ages four and a half and three.

Um, he's actually Oscar. He's going to be turning three on Tuesday. So they are a handful. They're awesome boys. Um, they both are autistic and, um, you know, it's just tough sometimes. And so parenting can be difficult. But really what I care most about is them. And I think that's what I always tell my clients. The most important thing is the best interest of the children, making sure they're okay. And so my question is, you know, when I am with my boys and they're

a little bit younger than your target audience, but as they grow, you know, these things will probably be important too. They're too young for this book. Yeah. Okay. Well, when they get old enough for it and, and just as they get old enough to maybe understand a little bit better about mom and dad, not living in the same house anymore? You know, there'll be a lot of questions, but the one thing that I really care about the most is just how they're feeling. And sometimes they'll be sad and I can't exactly understand why. And so I'm wondering, should I ask them specifically, are you sad because dad's not here? Or should I ask them, why are you sad? You know, because I don't want to bring it up if it's not on their mind,

but I also don't want to glaze over it if it is something that I should, you know, address at any given time. Right. So, of course, I don't know your children. And so I'm answering in a kind of a global way, but you'll take from it whatever works for you and your kids. In general, it's safe to say knowing why a child is sad is less important than being a person who notices that they're sad. being a person who notices that they're sad. So really for your three-year-old, most three-year-olds don't really know why they're sad unless something just happened, like someone took their toy or they dropped some food or whatever it is. They know about that sad, but the larger issues, which are in your case, sadness, certainly about the divorce and some grief probably as well. Three-year-olds feel, but they don't know how to tell you. They don't have the language to tell you. So the best thing to do if you sense that three-year-old is sad is to kind of maybe curl up in a nice cozy place and get the stuffed animal that's the favorite and read a favorite book.

Maybe some food, some good food and do a little snuggling and just kind of be together. And make a plan for later rather than try to find out. What you're doing is really acting as though you know, and that is the most important thing. I love that. And for your four-year-old, it's a little different. For a four-and-a-half-year-old, it's a little different. And again, you'll judge this from your kids and whatever parts of autism are affecting

them. But for four and a half year old, you can be a little more explicit. But rather than say, what are you sad about? One of the things I like to do a lot of drawings with kids this age, they love to draw. So you can do what I call a temperature tower. It's just a simple line, a vertical line with one at the bottom and 100 at the top. And you draw one for you and you draw one for your child with their name at the top. And the temperature chart is how am I feeling right now? And you do yours first. And you say, well, I'm about a seven. I'm okay. But you know, I might be a five. I don't know. Wait, sorry, mom. If you do, you mean one to one, one to 10 or one to a hundred? Sorry. I should have said, uh, one to 10. It doesn't matter.

Yeah. But so you're saying if let's just stick with one to 10, cause that's where you started. So you're saying one to 10. Um, so you say I'm a five or I'm a seven, whatever, rather than even if you're a one, I wouldn't go there. I would just sort of stay in the middle, but it gives the child that's listening to you an option to not be a 10. Now the child may say I'm a 10 and that's interesting, but if you've come through a little period of sadness and you sense something, you could say, okay, you're a through a little period of sadness and you sense something,

you could say, okay, you're a 10. Wow, that's amazing. Sometimes I'm a 10, but I'm not always a 10. So it's a kind of a way that you're communicating together that you know that it isn't always okay. And you may get a conversation out of that from your four and a half year old, a little bit of conversation. You can also say, well, when I do such and such, I feel like a 10. And when I do this, I tend to feel down a little bit lower. Do you have any things that make you higher or lower? Another thing is what I call a frown box. So you don't say it's a sad box, but a frown box is any little box that you find and some objects. They could be stones that

aren't swallowable or whatever. And you take turns putting things in the box and you call them frowns and you say what you're frowning about. So you participate in this as well. So that part of it is that the child feels that I'm a human being. I'm like my mom and I'm, you know, if your husband, your ex-husband could do this too, it would be wonderful for them to share this with him, both the temperature towers and the frown box. So you get to see, you're a child, but you get to see, I'm not, there's nothing wrong with me that I have these feelings. I have these feelings, but so do my mom and dad. Yeah. One of the most powerful things that I've shared with the listeners here, mom, that you always said to me is, you know, and I, and I, I, I,

you said it to me as a child. And I think of it now when I'm 40, about to turn 46, which is, you said, I would share with you something that was upsetting me. And you go, well, of course that makes total sense. If, if you didn't feel that way, there'd be something wrong with you that when you're going through this XYZ experience, if you didn't feel ABC, there'd be something the matter with you. We've adopted that. We've adopted that in our house. Oh, you have? I found that-

Since you said that, Zach, we've started doing that. Yeah. Well, that's all my mom. That's her specialty. Another thing I wanted to say, that really helped me as a child, they were these worry dolls. I don't know if they, were they a Mexican custom? They're Mexican. They still sell them. Yeah. I'm sure you might find them on Amazon or just on the internet somewhere. I don't know if they, were they a Mexican, uh, and they still sell them. Yeah. I'm sure you might find them on Amazon and just on the internet somewhere. I believe they're called Mexican worry dolls and they're, they're, they're, they're minuscule. They're, they're about a centimeter high and they go in a little container. And what you do is my mom,

as my mom taught me is for a worrying child. And I was a kid who worried a lot as you, you teach each, you tell each figure, uh, one of your worries and you put them in the little canister next to your bed. And while you're sleeping, they work on your worries. So it's like the child can have their anxiety relieved. Cause like, don't worry. These dolls are specifically meant to work. That's all they do is they work on worries. And I remember being a kid being like, this is a big worry. So I would like talk to them. I'm like, look, I'm going to need six of you guys on this worry. No, I would, I would totally like give them tasks. And I'd be like, look, I need everybody, but you, you're going to, you have a little small worry, but you guys are all on this main worry.

And I, and I really believed it and, and, um, and took comfort in knowing that while I was sleeping, they'd be attacking the worry. It was awesome. They don't take it away, but they work on it. Yeah, they work for you. And I love it for two reasons. In my household, my boys are, I'm white and my husband's Mexican. So it would be great for them.

I'm always trying to incorporate their culture and that would be cool. But also sleeping is tough just for us in general. Kids with autism are always up in the middle of the night and we're still working on that. But if that could be something that could help them stay in their own bed and stay, you know, not have to, cause I'm a sandwich right now. I'll have both boys on either side of me and, and they just roll right into me. So I'm like trying to teach them to sleep in their own beds and stuff. And that's a great idea. I'm going to look those up.

Yeah. I got a lot. I was so lucky to have a child psychologist mom because she, and people always joke with me over the years, like, oh, because my stepfather was a psychologist and my stepmother is a therapist and people are like, oh, are they always all analyzing you? And the truth is I didn't feel that at all. I felt like I was really well listened to. They understood the importance of listening to the child and hearing what they have to say. And I always felt heard and not demented.

So you were never like in a room with a big mirror ever? What do you mean? Like you never ever were in like a room with a mirror like oh you mean like a two-way mirror where they were analyzing me no no thank goodness no no but also but also you're right though when you say stuff like that that's the first thing you go to it's like wow you had a lot of you had a lot of therapy in your life. Yes, yes. So what does that mean? How does that work? My father in his later years taught a marriage counseling course with my stepmother.

So then he got on the therapy train too. He's getting in from all sides. It's important. I mean, you can tell when you listen to this podcast that, Zach, especially you have had a lot of words of wisdom in your life because you have such empathy with everyone that you talk to. And I just think that that's one of the best parts about listening. I mean, I love the show. I love everything about it, but I will say, and you raised a nice young man who is very empathetic to people and, and kind. And I just think that it's so cool to listen and see that your two favorite actors are really good people

and they're just fun talking to one another and it's just so much fun listening to them you're very sweet Chrissy I heard everything you just said you said Zach is empathetic and I'm not I heard you I'm sure when Chrissy's back on for your mom's show she'll say the same

thing about you I am good with moms no I'm sure when Chrissy's back on for your mom's show, she'll say the same thing about you. I am good with moms. So, you know, no, I'm just kidding. I am. I am. That means a lot to me, Chrissy. And yes, not only did I have empathetic therapists in my life, but I also was in therapy. You know, there was no stigma in my family about going to therapy or seeking out new age things, whether it be books or courses. It was a very, the environment was very open to working on yourself. I, you know,

I know plenty of people listening. I'm sure their families were the opposite. There was something wrong with you if you were going with therapist or there was something wrong with you if you're reading a self-help book or had interest in a workshop. So I'm very blessed that I had a family that was like, do it all. Read everything. Take that wacky workshop where you're walking on coals or whatever it is. It's very interesting. Our parents kind of had the same type of, not the same upbringing, but had a lot of the same interests.

And so because of that, Zach and I have a very similar upbringing where we took workshops and you know what i mean and therapy was wasn't looked at as something bad you know um it's it's it's it's really interesting it's really that i find that the most interesting about our friendship it's like we were destined to meet if you ask me because a lot of the things that we went through as kids uh are just too similar you know it's just we have well now that we learned that we both would sneak into the high school theater with the light I told Donald mom on the on the last show that I would sneak while other kids were sneaking behind the school to smoke cigarettes I would sneak into the school auditorium to play with the ancient lighting board and donald

was like i did too but he did it because he was in the av club man i did it because i thought it was like you know i was freaking uh flying a millennium falcon turned turning everything into light speed right that. That was great. Well, I hope that that was helpful, Chrissy. I would say fix your life, but I'm scared. No, we don't want to. We don't know if we're going to. This isn't a fix your life segment,

but definitely get a copy of the following. Do you want to fix your life? Do you want to fix your life? I actually had just a quick question about it, but I am interested in the book too. Yeah, so get the book, The Falling Down Time. Your kids are obviously a little young for it. But my client's kids will be loving it. But yeah, you're a divorcee.

But this should be on your coffee table in your office for your clients. Absolutely. The Falling Down Time. And I can tell them where I found it and they'll just be like, what? You were on that podcast? Oh my gosh. You know what? You can put a Post-it note on this on the coffee table in your waiting room that says,

Zach Braff's mom wrote this awesome book. I will. The Falling Down Time, which is on Amazon. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily Show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports, and more

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Tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents. She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway. Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion. That this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About $6 million. Approximately $11 million.

Nearly $10 million was all gone. Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry she would probably have sex with one of her clients hide your money in your old rich man because she is on the prowl listen to queen of the con season five the athlete whisperer on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, Donald is giving you a Fix Your Life opportunity.

I wasn't going to do it, but he's the co-host. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Illinois' favorite segment. It's time to Fix Your Life! All right, go ahead, Chrissy. Time to fix your life. All right, go ahead, Chrissy. Okay, well, it's pretty simple. I am single, so I'm just kind of ready to start dating. I know it sounds like, you know, people, everyone does it at their own pace whenever the time is right. Right. For me, I'm feeling the time is right.

I am. And I apologize to my ex if he's listening to this. Sorry. But he can date, too. Go for it. Whatever. I have two awesome kids and they are young and will obviously we're a package deal, but I want to get to know someone for who they are. I want them to get to know me for who I am. You know, uh,

when is the right time to tell people about it? Uh, what do I, how do I approach this subject? I mean, I, I think Donald, you would know, um, what it's like dating when you already have children and, and obviously finding someone that you want to be a companion with. And then, and then I am still open to having children someday. Um, I'm 32, so I have time and would love to start a life with someone in that way. But also right now I'm just looking to date too. Right. That's normal. And you should, and there's nothing wrong with that. Have you started, the obvious question that comes to mind is the apps. Have you tried,

and you don't have to go on the Tinder of course, but like one of the more ones for relationships like Match and such, have you done any of that? Yeah. Funny enough um i met my husband on e-harmony so that one's out yeah no more harmony no more that one it doesn't stick so i um i did yeah i looked at some of the apps i i got on them then i got off of them then i got on again and i'm like i've talked to people i on a couple of dates. I just don't want to like rope somebody in and then be like, by the way, I have two kids. Well, I think in your match profile, in your match, if I was advising you as your dating advisor,

I would have your beautiful children somewhere in your match profile, pictures of you happy with your kids. So you're never misleading anyone. I'm a mom of two. I mean, think how many people are out there dating with children. It's not the kind of man you're going misleading anyone. I'm a mom of two. I mean, think how many people are out there dating with children. The kind of man you're going to be looking for is not someone who's going to be afraid of that, obviously.

Yeah, I was going to say, if you find somebody and you say, I have kids and that's a deal breaker for them, that wasn't the person for you anyway, right? So, you know, it's, it's, it's, I don't think, I don't think there is a scenario where you don't automate where from the gate you should be telling people I'm a single mother. You know, I think the more honest and open you are, you'll attract the type of person you're looking for. You know, so I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about I wouldn't worry about that. You'll also remove the anxiety right away that, oh, I'm going to be misleading and found out. Like, no, you're being right up front. Like, don't come knocking if you're not interested in. They'll still come knocking.

Trust me. Yeah, they'll still come knocking. They'll still come knocking. Oh, yeah. I've had a couple of those. Yeah. But you might also, I mean, you know, full disclosure, you might want some fun and just some fun dating. You might, after being in a marriage and going through this divorce, which obviously is unpleasant, give yourself license to date and have fun and maybe not necessarily go right for the guy who's maybe going to be your next husband and stepfather to your kids. You might want to have a little fun dating time with people that aren't necessarily father material, but fun, fun dating material.

At the end of the day, and if it does get to the point where it does become that serious, you could say, well, you know, I got into, I wasn't, I was, I'm a divorced parent. I wasn't really looking for a relationship where we are now is where we are. And so I'm opening up more to you, but to be honest, I was just trying to get out there and meet new people, to be honest with you. And you just so happy, it just so happened to get serious with you. So if you want to keep it light, it's all right to keep it light too. It depends on what it is that you want to do. As Zach just said, if you're looking for another relationship,

I would be as open as possible uh when letting you know letting everyone know who you are if that's what you want because i always feel if you're withholding anything then you're gonna always gonna have this anxiety in your head about oh what if he what if he finds out so don't just let's just get rid of it right off the bat by being open with it in your profile of whatever dating site you're using but if you're going out to have fun who cares it's none of their business yeah you're using. But if you're going out to have fun, who cares? It's none of their business. Yeah, you can have two profiles. My dating for a fun romp profile with no kids and then your relationship profile with kids.

Mom, what do you think of me and Donald's pop psychology? Are we doing a good job? You're terrific. I wouldn't add anything. Oh, there you go. I never in a million years thought I would get dating advice from Zach Braff. Well, we give great advice.

And we're just PhD approved by my mom to give counseling. So there you go. Joelle's out on the dating market. Do you have any tips for her? No, that all sounded really good to me. Just being honest and upfront and, you know, have fun. Dating should be fun. Joelle's about to go on two dates in front of a lot of people at the live show.

Chrissy, are you going to join us for the live show? I already got my ticket. Mom, are you joining us for the live show? Do you even know about it? Absolutely. All right, Friday. Guess whose mom doesn't know about the live show? You got to get your mom on board, Donald.

Now, Mom, do you still listen regularly? Be honest. It's okay if you're not fully up to date. I intermittently okay well i want to tell you something when donald and i started this podcast chrissy we we made a joke saying a handful of scrubs fans will listen and maybe our moms turns out both of our moms have checked out well i'm in it for the long haul it's become a global sensation but our moms they're over Well, I'm in it for the long haul. It's become a global sensation, but our moms, nah, they're over it. They know you well enough that this is not exciting for them.

But for us, it's like we're getting to know you and know who you are. Oh, my gosh, it's fascinating. And I was just, you know, I'm such a diehard that everybody comes on here and they say, oh, I didn't like season nine. I liked it. More Scrubs is good Scrubs. Let me ask you a question. When's the last time you watched season nine? Well.

And how many times did you watch season nine? More importantly, Chrissy, what are your feelings on the soundboard? Are you pro soundboard? No, no soundboard. You are no soundboard, Chrissy. No, let her answer. Go ahead. No.

Chrissy, what are your thoughts? You like it, yes. A lot of people do. Casey, what are your thoughts on the soundboard? Zach, I love you. Oh, well, that was about me. I was talking about the soundboard. You asked for it.

You asked for it, Zach. No, where are you going? You asked for it. Uh-oh. Oh, no. He has to go get, mom, this is a new thing. He likes to bring Casey on the show multiple times. You know what it is?

He's so obsessed with his wife that he can't spend an hour away from her, so he has to go get her. That's the kind of love I'm looking for. Exactly. That's the kind of man I want, too. And she's, I know both women and both single women are like, that's what I want. Where is he?

Oh, my God. He's, he literally, mom, he can't do an hour podcast. I'm going to get Casey. He had you on the show, and he recorded you saying stuff. And so now he's using the soundboard. We got his mom and a caller on, and he's saying some really mean things. I don't know. No.

No, Casey. No. I assure you he is not. Casey, he's being crazy. Are you on drugs? Yes, he is. I assure you he is not. Casey, he's being crazy. Are you on drugs? Yes, he is. We know that he is. Oh, my God.

I'm like, what is this soundboard? What does that mean? No, Casey, I recorded this. Listen. Okay. Zach, I love you. Zach, I love you. Zach, Zach, Zach, I love you.

And I sometimes play it when I feel I need to hear your voice. Do mine. As you should. Let her hear the ones that... Oh, and here's Donald. Wu-Tang forever. Here's Donald. Here's the other one.

Do or do not. There is no try. Oh, and here's Donald's favorite sound, Casey. Oh, God. All right, come on. Casey, with all due respect, we got to wrap this show up. I'm not the one who's coming up here. I know your husband, who is obsessed with you, had to go get you.

You're the one that's in here now. Oh, my God. Zach, I love you. No, babe. No. Oh, I love that woman. That was a fresh one for the listeners. I love that one. By the way, listeners, that last one was not the board, woman. That was a fresh one for the listeners. I love that one.

By the way, listeners, that last one was not the board, listeners. That was her. Hey, Donald, I got to tell you, while you were getting Casey, and I said to the audience and my mom, I go, God, this guy is so obsessed with his wife. He can't be without her for an hour. And both single women went, that's what I want. Ideal husband material over here.

I want a relationship that's like Turk and Carla you know they're just so real another they're so in love but then I also love how JD and Elliot he says at the end Elliot you're my dream woman I just love it yeah well I mean for that to happen you gotta be either Turk or Carla you know what I mean relationships for that to happen, you got to be either Turk or Carla. You know what I mean? Relationships like that are on television. The real relationships are going to have ups and downs. Turk and Carla never really had ups and downs, man.

Their ups and downs was what are we going to name Izzy? You know what I mean? Or, you know, like television relationships are meant to be just that, to uplift you and to want you to experience love like that. divorced people and now he has Ted Lasso. And, and, and I think those things are important too, because when you're watching things, you kind of want to see scenarios that play out that you, you know, what would you do in that situation or who's, you know. But on TV, it just seems like they always end up, you know, it always ends up the right way on television. You know, that's the, that's the only thing like me personally, I wanted to, I wanted movies. I wanted to be in relationships, in the movies I saw, like 16 Candles and or The Breakfast Club. And, you know, those were ideal to me.

And I tried really hard over and over again to find that. And I'm going to tell you something right now. It's only in the movies, man. And then if I found something that was close to it, I really didn't want it. Well, the movies don't always reflect how difficult it is and how much work a healthy relationship takes. It's a lot of work. So what you see me and my wife do is, I mean, it's our shtick and we've perfected it. But, you know, I want all the listeners out there to know that you get the show.

You know what I mean? Yeah, but you are, I will say this about you. Of course, you're a normal couple that go through your hard times and your arguments. But I will say that you are a very doting, loving husband. You give her a lot of love. Yeah. Have you seen my wife? Yeah, she's a knockout.

Yeah, I'm saying, man saying man zach i love you i don't appreciate that i don't appreciate that uh we'll get florence on here going donald i love you um all right guys uh chrissy thank you for coming on we really appreciate it and good luck uh with your with all that's going on in your life thank you so much this I said, it was a dream come true and good luck to you. I guess I'll see you at the live show. We'll see you at the live show. We're so excited. Listen, if you, if you can get on the chat or if you want to shout out Joelle or something

like that, do it. Maybe we'll, maybe we'll get you on the live show too. We'll see. We don't know. We don't know. Repeat customer. Oh my gosh. All right, Christy. Thank you. I love you. Bye guys. Bye. Bye Christy. Take care. I love you. Bye. Bye, guys. Bye-bye. Bye, Christy. Take care.

Well, that's our show, guys. Don't forget to pick up The Falling Downtime if you're someone who's going through a divorce and need to talk to your children or if someone in your life is going through that situation. It's available on Amazon. And my mom's other book about adoption, If you have an adopted child, is a beautiful, beautiful book that addresses the subject of the birth mother to the child. And that's called The Mulberry Bird, also available on Amazon. Mom, did you have fun? I had a lot of fun. Thank you for giving me this chance. It was terrific. Well, I love you very much. I love you too.

chance it was terrific well i love you very much and i love you too yeah you're on the live show and i love you donald um and everyone so please join us our next show is the live show we'll be watching my quarantine all sorts of fun all sorts of adventures you'll be seeing us with our new fancy webcams that that we bought and um lots of guest appearances and fun and laughter right forever all right count us out donald five six seven eight stories Lots of guest appearances and fun and laughter, right? Wu-Tang forever, baby. Wu-Tang forever. All right, count us out, Donald. Five, six, seven, eight. Stories about a show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses

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