Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic - 120: My Way or the Highway with Scott Foley

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

In this week's episode, Elliot is swept off her feet by the handsome Sean. In the real world, Zach and Donald are swept off their feet as they recall the WB's Felicity and their misunderstood TV serie...s.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:52 And the very fancy guest is sitting alone in his closet. And you're, what are you doing? Making a drink? No, I was about to get my GT's kombucha, actually. I was asking, I was going to ask for like five minutes so I could get a GT's. Well, not five minutes, five seconds so I could run into the GT's. Did you get a shipment today? I got a big old shipment of GT's.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I got a shipment. I got a real shipment. I love it. Like a pallet. Not that we're interested in advertising on your podcast shipment. I got that. Yo, you know you got to talk about us every time you start this podcast shipment. So I got that big-ass kombucha shipment,
Starting point is 00:02:31 and I've already gone through two of them bad boys. You might want to. Donald, we were on a call. GT's Kombucha has become a sponsor of the show, and we are on a call with them. And Donald and I genuinely drink it, so it was a no-brainer. And Donald's like, let me ask you something. Since we have the inventor of this on the phone,
Starting point is 00:02:48 how many do you recommend I can have a day? And the guy's like, well, I think three is probably the max you want to have a day. And Donald's like, okay, good, good, good. So you might want to pace, bro. They're going to be gone soon, man. They're going to be gone. Listen, listen. Me, my wife, my kids.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Oh, it's a wrap. We have a very, first of all, this episode is fucking hilarious. Very funny episode. I laughed so many times, and I was on a text with Donald and Bill right before this about something, and I was like, this episode, 120 20 is one of the funniest of season one. Yeah. Easy, easy.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And we have a very handsome guest. Are you nervous? I put on a nice sweatshirt for him. No, I'm not nervous. I was, he and I have worked a lot together. Actually.
Starting point is 00:03:36 We did Felicity together. We, uh, before scrubs. And then after scrubs, uh, we did a little movie called let's kill Ward's wife together. And I played Ward, Ward, and he directed.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And so, you know. Well, I get nervous every time I see Scott Foley. Really? Yeah. I'm a straight man for the most part, but there are certain men that I get a little shy in front of, and Scott Foley is one of them. Really? certain men that I get a little shy in front of and Scott Foley is one of them really I don't want to play hide the peep with him but I I get a little I get a little jittery would you play would you play tip to tip I don't want to touch tips I just uh listen I am secure enough in my in my sexuality to be able to say that uh I get a little I get a little a flutter oh okay I don't
Starting point is 00:04:24 want to go tip to tip with Scott Foley, but I do think he's very dreamy to look at. And I also really like him as a human being. He's a very sweet man. Okay. Should we invite him in? Yeah, why not? I mean, I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Dan, bring him in. Dan, allow him in. We put him in a green room. Oh! Hey, there he is! Oh, my goodness. Gentlemen. Look at goodness look at that handsome man just talking about you you were yeah donald was saying that you guys have worked on several projects together not all right wait before we get into this let's make sure he's recording are you recording scott foley
Starting point is 00:04:57 i i think i'm recording the on here right the phone yes yes good good many a guest i got this up scott Foley, but there's something that tells me that you're going to do it right. You look so handsome. Look at him. Look at how he looks. I was going to wait. I was going to wait a beat to tell him he was handsome, Donald.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You went right for it. Can I tell you, this is the – I watched the episode not that long ago. I've watched it a couple times since we talked about me being on this, and this is the first time my hair has been the same length as it was during that episode. And I have the pandemic to thank. Scott, you got an intro. I don't think another man in nine years got the intro that we normally reserve for the beautiful woman walking in with the slow motion and the fan and literally angels going. It was a bit, and I was a little overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And I think you can tell that in my performance. It was hilarious, though. And eating Jell-O. Everybody knows. Eating Jell-O seductively. That's half it off. Seductively. I mean, I remember them coming to me saying, like, what do you want to eat?
Starting point is 00:05:58 I was like, it's a hospital, right? And they're like, Jell-O it is. By the way, Sarah's character is so randy for you in this i had forgotten you know we obviously scott we go back we haven't seen these in 20 years and so it's fun for donald and i because even though we're the stars of the show we're watching it like anew being like oh that's a funny episode and i had totally forgotten how in this episode sarah is like really horny frankly and riled up like she's like she's she literally says if i don't sleep with him i'm gonna kill myself right and then she says she said she'd suck on
Starting point is 00:06:31 his foot or something and he's like what i'd suck on your foot they went they went to a lot of lengths with this between the sucking on the foot talking about needing to sleep with me, begging me to ask her out, dropping stuff, and doing bizarre contortions, which, by the way, works for anybody out there. It was really funny, though, because it's not something you often see on a show. You always see the man being neurotic and frantic. How do I get her?
Starting point is 00:06:59 And I'm so attracted to her. I'm so horny. And I thought this was funny that Sarah, first of all, Sarah was very funny doing it, but she's so on a mission to get laid. It's funny. I had so many thoughts watching this. Sorry, you're going to
Starting point is 00:07:14 see my lights go on. Nobody can see that because we're on a podcast. I'm in a closet where it's got one of those automatic lights. You walk in and it turns on. And if I'm sitting here and not moving, then it's going to go dark. That's the kind of fancy house that Scott Foley has, everyone. He has a light that turns on with his motion. Some people have the clapper.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Some people have light switches. Scott Foley has movement. Listen, one day if you have the level of success of legendary actor Scott Foley, you could get one of these motion lights in your closet. Uh-huh. I think all of your closets have that. No, I was so impressed first of all what a time capsule these things are right like not just the references but everything you see like the tv you guys are watching in the beginning is an old vacuum tube television right you know which you just don't see anymore plus you guys
Starting point is 00:08:00 are talking about watching iron chef which somehow has stood the test of time right because i think it's still on i think they're still making yeah new episodes you know i think back then it was like iron chef was a import and now it's yes domestic you know what i mean i don't know that there's is there a domestic iron chef yes like bobby flay and all of that stuff on it and stuff yeah but it was also it was also so impressive to me to see you know this is the we're getting towards the end of the first season, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And you guys have your characters dialed in at this point already.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I've been on a bunch of television shows where it's not until like end of season three where people are like, oh, oh, I know who this guy is. Right. But you guys are dialed in to a person like to from from Kelso to Cox to you guys to Sarah, like it's amazing. And being able to jump into that. You know, it was such an interesting character that I got to play here. But you're right. Watching Sarah and that character totally go for it was such an interesting thing because you always see it from the other side, don't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And she's really fucking funny. I mean, we say this. This is our 20th episode of this Scott Foley. Believe it or not, it's become a hit and we can't believe it ourselves, but this is our 20th one. And I, we've said it a bunch of times, but Sarah chalk is so fucking funny. I mean, this episode in particular, she is so fucking funny in this episode. She's so talented. She's so beautiful. She is so good at what she does and she goes for it, man. And that's what I appreciated most about the show is that, you know, there are things that you, you would read on the page. You think like, Oh, how am I going to do that? And everybody to a person goes for it. And I think
Starting point is 00:09:33 that's what really made this show successful and what makes it stand the test of time, even though we're still looking at old TV sets. It's all good. Um, well, speaking of successful, we have a lot to talk about Donald, but think we should sing first I was about to say Speaking of successful Let's get into that successful theme song 5, 6, 7, 8 No I like it No Dan turn off the song
Starting point is 00:09:56 I would like Scott Foley to count it Here we go 5, 6, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate. I said, here's a story that you all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. around to hear our Scrubs Rewatch show with Zach and
Starting point is 00:10:23 Donald. That's the first time in podcast history we've stopped the opening theme song. And I'm sorry, Donald. I didn't mean to question your right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's just that Scott's a VIP guest and I felt like, give him the honor.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He was really excited to go for it. I'm not at all hurt in any way. No, we are partners in this, and I don't want you to ever think I would ever question when it's time to sing the song. It was time to sing the song. Your harmony with that song is something that my wife and I have had conversations about.
Starting point is 00:10:57 We go for it. We go for the harmony. It's really good. No, listen, Scott, when we made the song, we were like, okay, but I was like, well, how do we do it now? How do we, you know, we made the song, we were like, okay, but I was like, well, how do we do it now? How do we, you know, we made the song, but how are we both going to sing all the lyrics? And Donald's like, don't worry, I got this.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And he like came up with all those harmonies. I was like, Zach was like, I'll just send you, I'll send you my verse. I'll sing the whole song and I'll send it to you. And you just sing, because originally we were going to do it where we split up the lyrics. The words, yeah. Right. and you just sing because originally we were going to do it where we split up the the the words yeah right and he was like i'll sing the whole thing and you just pick where you want to sing and we'll have charlie cut us in and i heard him sing and i was like i think he sounds amazing the only way that this is going to work is if i just back him up with some hard if i sing the whole thing too right Right. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:46 This is good, but you know what's going to, I know what's going to make it better. If I do really, if I do really showy harmonies over all of this. Well, it works and we are fans,
Starting point is 00:11:58 so good job. Right on. Right on. Of course. Donald, I think we should go back to, I was going to say that. Let's go. Go on.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Let's go to Scott's career. We'd like to go back a little bit. Scott, the think we should go back to – I was going to say that. Let's go – I was going to say Scott's career. We'd like to go back a little bit. Scott, the first time I remember hearing about you was on a very, very successful show, solely successful because of Donald's phase-on, but I believe you were on it too. It was called Felicity. That's correct. Donald and I met for the first time on Felicity, and I remember being like, holy shit, the Clueless guy's here.
Starting point is 00:12:26 That's what happens every time he walks into a restaurant of course of course but i also i mean donald was great on that and you were you you had that you were going through this phase where you were trying to be ripped you were i remember i think the first table read you came in you were carrying like a three gallon jerry can of water yeah it was crazy the amount of water you would drink every day yeah you were shredded and we'd play basketball in the parking lot out there and actually i remember i think you'd been on the show off and on for a season or two maybe three and three seasons which goes before scrubs came around right yeah yeah and i remember talking to you you had done the pilot and you were telling me about it,
Starting point is 00:13:07 and you said, I don't know, man. It's really funny. It's from this young writer. He did Spin City, and we got a good group, and I saw the pilot, and it's really funny. I think it's going to take off. And I was like, yeah, good for you. Let's keep playing basketball.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah. Yeah, sure. And nine seasons later. Yeah, we had a lot of conversations just about work back then also. You know, I don't know how new you were to the game, but you had been working. You had done Felicity, you had done Scream 2, or was it 3? Yeah, Scream 3. Before Felicity, I'd done Dawson's Creek, which was sort of my introduction to what back then was the WB, the now defunct WB world. Um,
Starting point is 00:13:47 which was Felicity your first big leading part. Felicity was my first big leading part. Yeah. Yeah. And, and you know, it was, it was really the, uh, the springboard that, and I'm so grateful for it that, that allowed me to be a part of your show and sort of everything that's come since. And, um, and when you got got are you guys still friendly um the three of you the three of you the love triangle we're not not friendly um you don't like you know
Starting point is 00:14:11 you know i mean donald where you're not like having him over and and and putting his putting his kids in a bouncy castle no i'm we're not like that but but we got together uh last year for it was the 20th uh reunion of felicity wow um which was amazing and we got so last year for, it was the 20th reunion of Felicity. Wow. Which was amazing. And we got so many people together. We went to the ATX, the Austin Television Festival, and I think they screened an episode and we all sat on stage where a bunch of people asked us questions. There was a moderator. It was really great.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It was the first time we'd all been together in, you know, 17, 18 years. Wow. Yeah. It was really was really really fun man and i uh you know i'd always said i don't think you know they talk about doing reboots and i'd always said i don't think you can do a reboot of felicity because it was so specific to um not just that time in a person's life when we were all so much younger but to uh that period of the world of our existence and uh i sort of changed my mind um after being with them because i i just missed them all so much and i remembered the feelings that i had uh both good and bad and i sort of yearned for them so if you
Starting point is 00:15:21 know well are you here i think we have an exclusive right here on the Fake Doctors Real Friends. Scott Foley is willing to do a Felicity reboot, everybody. It wouldn't be a no. Could Donald be on it too? I would only support it if Donald's character... My character lives, so it's a possibility. I only support it if you get to come back, Donald.
Starting point is 00:15:41 It would be very interesting to see if everybody is still friendly from the cast in the show. You know what I mean? Like, you guys were in college together
Starting point is 00:15:49 and you guys all lived together kind of, sort of, and you guys all dated each other, but it was college and usually, you know, I didn't go to college,
Starting point is 00:15:58 but I don't have a lot of friends from my, you know, early, that I still hang out with from my early 20s that I still hang out with. So it'd be really interesting to see what happened after you guys all left NYU.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I remember when there was a controversy when Keri Russell cut her hair. People lost their minds, right? Yeah. That was the thing. I remember being like, I didn't watch the show, but I remember being like, are people really up in arms that Keri Russell cut her hair?
Starting point is 00:16:25 People were up in arms. And it's to this day, I think, the thing that people talk about the most when they talk about the show. And the interesting thing is that it was scripted. Like she cut her hair on the show. And somehow it gained traction as this urban legend that she did it on her own because she was angry or wanted to change or get away from the character. We cut it. You actually see it in season two of the show her cutting her hair and i thought she looked um more beautiful with the short hair than she did with the long but you know that people just loved it i'm just making up that people loved her hair so much
Starting point is 00:16:58 that they were like how dare you it was a lot of hair dude it was a lot of hair, dude. It was a lot of hair. I'm assuming, as I recall, she had beautiful curly long hair. And people were like, how dare you? Enviable hair, yeah. It looked like she had been growing it since birth. That's how beautiful the hair was. By the way, Keri Russell was on our show. She was a love interest of mine. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:17:20 On Scrubs? Yeah. She did a couple episodes just like, well, you did way more episodes. Your character tracked for the end. Don't like, well, you did way more episodes. Your character tracked for. Yeah. Until the end pretty much. Don't worry, Scott. You did way more.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But. I just didn't know it. Will you do me a favor and look up how many she did? She did two. Yeah. Oh, Donald, you know that. Yeah, I remember. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Now she's talented and great. And I think we kissed. I think. I mean, on the show. I think we kissed. We might be lip cussing, Scott. I would guarantee. I would guarantee that you remember whether you kissed or not.
Starting point is 00:17:46 No, I know I kissed me. I remember being very excited that she was a love interest. But JD didn't make out with all his love interests. Joelle will look it up for me. Did JD kiss? But anyway, Scott, we might be lip cousins. We're definitely wiener cousins. We're definitely wiener cousins.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Donald and I were talking about touching tips just before you came on what hello are you not in real life donald with sarah's character yeah oh oh oh well i think i hope that's the only crossover i don't think we had any real life crossover scott foley and i hope not because the woman would have clearly preferred you i don't know about that although you know scott, how dare you? You know how handsome you are. Just ask. Listen, listen, listen. What's it like to be handsome? Tell Donovan.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You know, listen, I know that all of your supporters are out there right now. You probably bought quite a few downloads to our podcast just you being on this right now. That's very kind of you. All your Scandal crew, hey, girls, how y'all doing? What's up, Scandal crew? I'll take that. That's very flattering. Listen, the three of us have something else in common,
Starting point is 00:18:55 and that is we've all had ABC cancel our shows in season one. Yes. Brutal. 13 episodes. We each got 13. We each got 13. I only got 10. Scott, how many did you get? We got 13. Thank goodness. And a trip to Prague. That was it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 So for those of you who don't know, because I guess not enough of you knew, Scott was on a huge budget action series that shot in Prague. He moved his whole family there, which is no small deal because you have two children, right? I have three children. They were all in school over there. And it was by no means a simple show. I was going to direct it, but then
Starting point is 00:19:36 I had a conflict, but it was a huge, budget, epic, sort of James Bond, comedic James Bond action show that Bill Lawrence, Six Degrees of Bill Lawrence, was the showrunner of. And I thought it was amazing. The pilot was unbelievable. I couldn't believe the scale of it. It looked like a giant feature. Oh, thanks, man. And you were so good in it. But anyway, as I was preparing for today, I went, all three of us stars of ABC, and then got a new ABC show that only went half a season.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Oh, man. It was just – and it's still heartbreaking. My wife and I had a conversation about it a couple nights ago where, you know, she was like, oh, I wish we were still in Prague. You know, we just – we were so fortunate. And, you know, that's one of the great things about – and one of the reasons I'm so excited to talk to you guys today because, you know, Scrubs for me was, it started out as just a gig, right? Coming in, doing something fun, doing something different. And it has morphed into the relationships that I've made from it have sustained a lot of what I do.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And it's made me happy. The people that I've gotten to work with and gone on to work with because of Scrubs have been great. And like you said, Bill Lawrence was the showrunner of Whiskey Cavalier, and we were over in Prague together. And without Scrubs, that wouldn't have happened. I think you really showed that you were really funny, Scott. Yeah, I was about to say. I think that with your other shows that you've known for, whether it be Felicity or Scandal, obviously people know you as a great dramatic actor. But I think on Scrubs, Bill really gave you a chance to be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:21:14 One of my favorite moments of Sean's character was in the script. I say this to Scott all the time and Bill all the time. It literally said in a script, Sean forlornly rides a dolphin. And then when I saw the shot of you forlornly riding a dolphin, I thought, he fucking nailed that. He literally... Maybe the best screen direction of my career. That's how I would sum up that shot,
Starting point is 00:21:40 is Sean forlornly rides a dolphin. Oh, thanks, man. Thanks. I will say thanks, man. Well, I will look. I will say this, though. I knew you were funny from when we did Felicity together, when Noel went off the rails and went a little batshit crazy, and you got to explore this character who was kind of by the book
Starting point is 00:21:59 and did everything by the book, refined himself. And I remember doing a bunch of episodes where they were looking for you and we finally found you and you were like you were completely out there and i remember not being able to hold it together when we were doing the takes because you were so funny so i knew you were funny way before we started before you came on scrubs oh thanks man i um yeah i think i think zach you overstate my my um my talent by saying I'm a great dramatic actor. I think I'm passable. But Donald, that was a that was a bizarre like season three tangent where my character Noel decided to change his name to Leon. Literally just reverse the letters in his name. They they put like a weird wig on me.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So I had like blonde tips on my hair. It was the strangest thing, but thank you, Donald. It was at least a little chance for me to stretch myself in that character. Now, did J.J. Abrams run all the seasons? Every season. Yes, every season. He was gone a little bit on season four, on our final season, because he had started a show called alias
Starting point is 00:23:05 and so was sort of doing his time between uh both sets but he was there the whole time i was really fortunate um you know obviously no one knew uh that jj abrams would become jj abrams uh back then now do you like do you like donald occasionally uh put it out there that you're open to being in any Star Wars franchises that he's interested in. Can I tell you? It's been – it's been the – like if I was ever insecure about anything – Because what's his name? Greg Grunberg. Grunberg, he keeps getting all the love. I mean where the fuck is happening with Donald and Scott Foley?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Grunberg and J.J. Abrams have been friends since they were three years old. Like they were best friends in elementary school. They made crappy movies together on their Super 8 film cameras when they were three years old. They were best friends in elementary school. They made crappy movies together on their Super 8 film cameras when they were kids. They were best men at each other's weddings. Look, I think J.J. knows just by the fact that I'm an actor that I would like to be
Starting point is 00:23:55 in Star Wars. You've got to be more direct, Scott. Donald's very direct about it. But I would, yeah, of course, I would love to. And every time he signs on to direct a new one, I send him a text like, wow, way to go. You're not going to see your family for a while. Might want some friends around.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So I'm not sure how to take it that he hasn't cast me in. You know, you always, there's the old story that you know someone likes working with you if they hire you again and again and again. And I've been fortunate with Bill that that's happened multiple times. JJ, not so much. Not so much, right? We'll see why.
Starting point is 00:24:30 We all need Bill to direct a giant Tenpo movie. I mean, what's going on, Bill? Step it up. Do you remember? He was going to do Fletch. He wrote a great script for Fletch. And I went and I met with him. I read with him.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And there was a whole long Miramax story that goes with it. But he was on his way, man. I thought he would have been great at that. I know. We really need him. I read with him. And there was a whole long Miramax story that goes with it. But he was on his way, man. I thought he would have been great at that. I know. We really need him. I don't think he's interested. He loves TV so much. But I think for all of us, we would like Bill to become a studio tentpole filmmaker, if he doesn't mind.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Are they making movies anymore? They do. There's a couple coming out. Yeah? They're saying July. They're saying like the end of July, things are going to pick up again. They're saying that Chris Nolan movie is coming out no matter what.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Tenet. Oh, really? Right? That's what I've been hearing. And then, I mean, maybe they'll change their mind, but I read something on the interwebs that said they're still saying July,
Starting point is 00:25:17 which assumes that people are going to be willing to go to the theater in July. I don't know. It seems pretty ballsy to release like a $200 million movie. I mean, I don't know. It seems pretty ballsy to release like a $200 million movie. I mean, I don't know if it's that much money,
Starting point is 00:25:27 but all these giant movies for that, for in July. But some things are filming already. Like they're filming in certain areas now. Jewel just said $205 million.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Jeez. And July 17th, it's coming up. $205 million. That's going to be interesting to see how you spend $205 million. I would think, like interesting to see how you spend $205 million. I would think, wouldn't you have to double the amount of theaters?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Because the theaters are only going to be at half capacity just because of social distancing. There just aren't enough theaters out there to make the money back. $205 is the production budget. So they're going to put $100 million into releasing it. That's a lot of money. That is a lot of money uh that is a lot of money but i ask my but then you ask yourself how much did it cost to make end game and all of those things those things look like they cost half a billion dollars no but you've got a built-in
Starting point is 00:26:14 marvel audience this movie has no uh mega celebrities in it i don't yeah but it's nolan man i mean i know i know chris nolan is his enterprise. Don't get me wrong. I get it. But it's got to be the most amount of money spent on an original script. Wow. $356 million on Endgame. Scott, you're not supposed to read the producer notes. Sorry. This is the second time it's happened. Five, six, seven, eight.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Sarah Chalk did the same thing. Sarah did the same thing. Scott, Donald and I are the hosts of the show. You, as a guest, ignore my producer's notes. Well, no, you know, what I was doing was pretending that I actually knew the budget. Sarah, we had Sarah on, and Joelle was like, you know, Joelle always gives us little things to help the conversation along. And Sarah just starts reading them. Like, Sarah, that is not for the guests.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And Sarah just starts reading them. Like, Sarah, that is not for the guests. The fact that you needed little things to help the conversation along with Sarah, who you worked with for 10 years, is amazing. No, but I said, Sarah, what happens if Joelle's writing, like, this is so boring, help her along, you know? Like, don't read those. Okay, so I'm going to put a piece of tape above my... No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:22 No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Joelle won't write. Joelle would never write Scott Foley. It's so boring. Don't worry. She wouldn't be the first one. Anyway, all I was saying was that Chris Nolan, I get, is his own entity.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And I get that everyone is going to see this movie because he's a fucking genius. But I wonder if it's the most amount of money ever spent on a piece of material that isn't a already established piece of intellectual property like marvel or james bond or the like you know what i'm saying i don't i don't know it's a lot of money to have to spend on something and it not work you know yeah i don't yeah i mean just it's just the amount of money it has to make in order for it to be successful is just and especially with what Scott's saying, is that the talk is that the theaters are only going to be half full, so you can have the most distance from each other.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So then you need double the amount of screenings. I don't know how that's going to work. What would be really interesting is, okay, so Trolls World Tour was supposed to come out in theaters, and it didn't make it to theaters because of the whole COVID thing, right? And so they released it on the digital platform,
Starting point is 00:28:29 but you had to rent it. You couldn't buy it. You could only rent it, and your rental lasts for about 24 hours. I wonder how much money Trolls World Tour made, because the model is there to put movies out. Well, at least right now, if you really want to watch a... And they haven't really experimented with, like, big blockbuster movies,
Starting point is 00:28:52 but if you really want to watch a movie, it's fine to watch it at home. I understand they need movie theater money because popcorn, all of that shit, theaters and everything, but I wonder what Trolls World Tour did for Joelle. Can we find that out? I wonder if it's even published. So 77 million Trolls World Tour did. That's a lot. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Well, that would be you saying, is that the first weekend? Or is that total? No, that wouldn't be first weekend. Sorry, that would be total. So when you rent it, because I haven't done this yet. When you rent with this new model, where you rent the movie for 24 hours, what did Trolls cost you? 20 bucks. 20 bucks.
Starting point is 00:29:30 1999, something like that. I love that the two dads know they're like, 20 bucks. Oh, yeah. Please. I looked at my wife. I was like, we're spending 20 bucks on this? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:39 We've watched it like several times. Yeah. So think how many. We rented it. Think how much money you've gotten off the Faison's because you guys are renting it multiple times. We rented it. Think how much money you've gotten off the Faison's because you guys are renting it multiple times. It would cost more
Starting point is 00:29:49 if we went to the movie theater, though, because it would be 20 bucks each person. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's right. Plus popcorn and all of that stuff. I don't know if they get money
Starting point is 00:29:58 for the popcorn, but I'm just saying. I wonder if that's a new model. 77 million is a lot of money to make online, dude. That's a new model. They've been talking about it. money to make online, dude. That's a new model. They've been talking about it. I think it's an interesting way to go, too.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That's probably what people are going to start doing. I mean, if, because I don't, you know, Spike Lee said the other day, he's not going to the theater until there's a vaccine. And I was kind of like, yeah, I think I might agree with that. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, my wife's not leaving the house until there's a fucking vaccine. You know? And that's your choice right
Starting point is 00:30:26 it's yeah sure i have a lot to do with that donald i have a lot of your wife is your wife more hardcore than you about this because donald's definitely more hardcore than his wife no my wife is uh anxiety ridden about everything she is terrified not just that we're going to get it but that we're all going to die from it when we get it. You know, mind you, none of us have preexisting conditions. She has made 500 masks and donated them and given them to friends. She is all over this. And I still can't leave the house.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. My wife doesn't like me right now because I'm like, well, maybe it started off like this. Maybe, maybe in May, honey. Maybe, no, maybe in May. Okay, we'll see about May. And then May's come around.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'm like, okay, maybe June. And she's like, June is here, motherfucker. And I'm like, listen, July. When July comes around, I promise you, baby, we're going to scope out the situation. And if it's all good, then we can go outside. Well, Donald and I got invited to go on. There's this really popular YouTube show called Good Mythical Morning. And it's a hugely successful show.
Starting point is 00:31:38 They do it in a normal time. They do it every morning. And we got an invite to do it at the end of July. And I was like, I think like, and you have to go in person, they're not doing it on Zoom. And I was like, I think end of July, we were just talking about this before the show, like end of July, we could probably do that, right? And we don't know. I mean, we're both having the conversation, but in our heads is like, are we going to be going to do a talk show end of July? Does that
Starting point is 00:32:02 seem like, are we going to wear masks? Like? I don't understand how it's going to work. How does that work? There's a lot of talking face-to-face, too. Everybody's got an opinion. Mine is, I think it's going to be okay. At a certain point, doesn't life have to go on? I mean, it does.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I know, but choosing, yeah, life will go on, but choosing to go into, like, making choices that are like, I'm going to go sit in a movie theater with a bunch of people that might be coughing or I'm going to go into a tight elevator or a restaurant. I mean those choices, I don't know. I might – we might hold off on those. We got to go to a break because that's what we have to do because this is a real show that has breaks and ads and shit, Scott Foley. This isn't like some bullshit show. This is a show with ad breaks.
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Starting point is 00:35:42 this. Because of the delay, nothing we ever do is in sync. So we sometimes ask Dan in post to make it seem like we know how to sing at the same time. Fix it, Dan. Can you guys give me a minute to run and grab my notes? Yeah, but don't take a deuce, dude. We got Scott Foley here. Scott Foley?
Starting point is 00:35:59 I will never deuce on your time. Okay, thank you. His minute is the equivalent of him learning his lines on Scrubs. This is what happens. Oh, I'm glad you know. We've talked a lot about this. Will you please say that when he comes back? Or not learning his lines, I should say.
Starting point is 00:36:14 No, he claims he's turned over a new leaf, but I think that's just because he's worried that potential directors and showrunners might be listening to the podcast and won't hire him. So he, he, he has this whole thing where he says that he's, he he's turned over a new leaf and now he learns his lines. Well,
Starting point is 00:36:33 how it's a pandemic. That's his new leaf. There's nothing to learn. I know. He also said he quit weed, but I think that I will ask him if that's, if that's a lasted, why is your wife's Instagram handle?
Starting point is 00:36:44 The mean chick she seems like such a nice person does she well i don't know her that well but every time i've hung out with her she seems delightful she is delightful her her she's polish and her last name is dominic or dominic which sounds like the mean chick so every time someone has a hard time pronouncing her name she just says it sounds like the mean chick so that every time someone has a hard time pronouncing her name, she just says it sounds like the mean chick. So that's it. Oh, I thought it was like a thing like, look, you might think I'm nice, but I'm a bitch.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'm the mean chick. No, no, no. She's an asshole, but God, I love her. And she had a good part on your show too, didn't she? Yeah, man. I forgot. Did she have a recurring or something? She had a recurring role,
Starting point is 00:37:24 and that was sort of one of the caveats I had when I was talking about shooting this show in Prague. I was like, you guys want me to move over to Prague for a year and I got a wife who's a working actress. I got three kids that I'm going to put in school. I can't ask her to stop. And Bill was like, she can be on the show! Bill's a good salesman. He's i just i just discovered who our new recurring role is yeah uh you know but the the it was a it was a it was a smart move on his part and and ours actually you know shooting over in prague was um uh obviously much better for the budget the tax breaks and the the cost of of doing business over
Starting point is 00:38:03 there is substantially lower so and and just the production value you know there's a shot in the pilot by the way if you haven't seen the show go see it even if you just watch the pilot because you'll be impressed by the scope of the damn thing i just couldn't i thought it was a pilot was really well done and i was i was gonna go direct when i was sort of intimidated i was like how many days you get to shoot these episodes because it was just we were so excited to have you over there, man. We were so bummed when it fell through. And I know you got a big gig. I got a part in a good role in a movie with Christopher Walken.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And my actor crush, Hart, couldn't say no to that. As much as I wanted to come to Prague and boss Scott Foley around. Well, we miss having you. Well, we'll have to do it again. Maybe you would have saved the show. I know. That episode would have been the thing. No, but I can't wait to work with you again because I think you're fantastic.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Donald, Scott wanted to – Dude, you're so amazing in this episode, man. Yeah. Let's get into the episode. Thanks, buddy. Let's get into the episode. Yeah. It's a very good episode.
Starting point is 00:38:59 You know, we – Adam Bernstein directed it, who directed our pilot. We've told you, and he's a very, very funny, talented guy. Eric Weinberg. Eric Weinberg., talented guy. Eric Weinberg. Very funny writer. Eric Weinberg. I played tennis with him after this episode. You're a good tennis player. Isn't that a bit of trivia about you?
Starting point is 00:39:13 That is a bit of trivia about me. I can hold my own. I'm not great, but I can hold my own. Did you play college? That's what people who are really good say, to be modest. You're really good, I think. Can you beat Bill? No.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah, Bill's really good. Bill's really good. Although can you beat bill uh no yeah bill's really good bill's really good although although these days i don't know he's gotten older bill um you know bill and i uh we don't we don't play together because it's just not fun for for either one of us but uh we we often hit um we've we've we've we've vacationed together and we would like each hit with a pro on separate courts because I'm, I just can just get by, but I love it. And Bill's is like, you know, played college is really good. But he would play these young pros and try his ass off to, but he would keep up with them.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I mean, you know, it was, it was, he was impressive. Yeah, no, he's, he's good. He and I have gone out to hit a few times and we have a, um, a tennis program, Christian, uh, Catholic, who was a pro for a while and, and sort of hits with a bunch of people around town and, and we, we um a tennis pro guy named christian uh capelik who was a pro for a while and and sort of hits with a bunch of people around town and and we we both play with him but bill's uh very talented as by the way getting back to the episode was mr weinberg he's a very good tennis player uh i gotta say that what i want to start to say is that you know we're watching these episodes scott and they're all some of them are great and some of them are just okay, as happens when you make 182 episodes of something.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Sure. I have to say, this one is particularly really fucking funny. I laughed out loud quite a few times. Me too. I laughed out loud a bunch. Not only do we have Scott's whole and Sarah's arc, which is hilarious, but the janitor fucking with me and telling all my patients to get surgery is so funny. And Donald, we have a musical. He talks to everybody, by the way.
Starting point is 00:40:46 He talks to everybody. I was going to bring that up. In this episode, he talks to everybody. I know. Bill, as you know, Bill has held on to this lore that in season one, the janitor only spoke to JD. And he was debating whether, as we went forward, if the janitor would just be a figure in J.D.'s imagination.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I think this is where it went off the window. Yeah, I think episode 120, he must have been like, fuck it, because the janitor talks to everybody. The janitor's real. He's giving advice. He's giving medical advice to people. Yeah. That was really funny.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Well, let's get into it. I'm your biatch. Very funny. Yeah, this is the beginning. Well, not the beginning of Scrubs being a musical because we had Judy and Sam sing together. Yeah. But this is the beginning of big musical productions, though, in Scrubs. We're all dancing in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah. Singing on a made-up fire escape. Yeah, this was our homage to West Side Story. And we clearly didn't have the rights because we're very clearly tiptoeing around it being a West Side Story spoof, but it is a West Side Story spoof. I loved it. I love the musical theater references. I thought, you know, I was sitting there watching this trying to think of the sort of the theme and, you know, they talk about competition, but whether it's you, J.D. and Turk or Cox and Kelso, like it's not necessarily competition, but there's a power struggle happening here with all these characters, which was really interesting to watch.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And I thought the – we're obviously not there yet, but I thought the resolution, especially when it came to you guys' storyline, was a great one. Yeah. Yeah, it is about – it's about – I guess that's the theme in the two main story – I mean not the two main because you and Sarah are one. Yeah. Yeah. It is about, it's about, uh, I guess that's the theme in, in, in, in, in the two main story. I mean, not the two main, cause you and Sarah are one, but the Cox Kelso one and the me,
Starting point is 00:42:30 Donald one is, is, is competing with your peers. And you're right. It is the first time we get into all these games that Donald and I would play over the years. Uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:39 these stupid, these stupid little challenges, you know, what was the one with, uh, hide the, hide the saltine, hide the saltine and all, and all the many things. But this was the one with hide the hide the saltine hide the saltine
Starting point is 00:42:45 and all the many things but this was the first toe or finger yeah yeah and they're all very they're all named in a very bill lawrence way you know like steak is just called steak steak but but even what uh cox calls the nurse coffee nurse like it's so simple the way Bill names things and it's hilarious. By the way, a little bit of trivia. Coffee nurse, I don't know if you know this, is Matt Tarsus' beautiful wife, Katie Tarsus. I did not know that. You know Matt Tarsus, Scott Foley? Yeah, I know Matt, but I didn't know that was his wife.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Matt Tarsus was one of our great writers on Scrubs and he created, along with me, our ABC show that didn't work, Alex Inc. And he's a great human being and has a beautiful wife. And I stopped, and I was like, that's Katie Tarsis playing Coffee Nurse. She was great. And I texted him. And I said, your wife is so beautiful in this episode. And he said, yes. And I said, I'm not going to tell you what he said.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Never mind. That's enough. That is enough. What do you got, Don? You got anything else you want to tell me? Mr. Hoffner. This dude is fucking hilarious. What's the name of the gentleman who played Mr. Hoffner?
Starting point is 00:43:59 Fred Stoller is his name. So good. This guy, I got to tell you, if you are a director or a filmmaker or a showrunner, you need to hire this guy because every sentence he said, I laughed out loud at. Out loud. I remember laughing when we were making the show at him doing the lines in the chicken. That shit had me going for days. He takes the funniest stutter. And I tried to write it down
Starting point is 00:44:25 because what he's trying to say is, no, you said chicken. But what comes out is he goes, no, you chicken. And like, you can't write that in a script. That's just an actor coming up with something funny. It was hilarious. He's been around for years. He's that character actor guy
Starting point is 00:44:41 who just pops up and he slays every time you see him. He's got such a dry sense of humor that is innately watchable. There is this type of really funny actor. They're often called character actors that, like Fred, that can... And Bill would hire lots of them on the show over the years. And he jokingly would call them his assassins. And Bob Condon is another one. And they would just come on and they would have like a few lines but everything they said was was funny and uh and i just want to say to fred and anyone who knows fred every single thing you said on this episode
Starting point is 00:45:15 made us laugh yeah he came back to uh later on not you know seasons later actually i i i thought he would be somebody who would come back into the hospital over and over again i think yeah when this was when this episode was done i remember telling bill like you got to have that guy back you got to have him come yeah he should be a regular he's hilarious he was really funny yeah i agree um on the uh treadmill yeah oh god one you look great you got that young you got that young body where the shoulders haven't really caught up yet with the head yet you know what i mean where they're like huge your shoulders are like so high and everything you know what i'm talking about when you're like a baby i know what you're talking about you start growing lats and shit anyway uh when making that the fall was that you or was that i had the same question asking you to do it the The fall was me. I was terrified about this.
Starting point is 00:46:06 This was the scene in the script that had me the most nervous. And for ridiculous reasons. Like, there is something about watching people run on screen that you can look, the gate, your gate, you can look like an idiot or you can look okay. You know, like if you see people run on screen, you're like, that's a weird run. And it's, it's quick and easy to judge. So I was very nervous about that. Um, but I also felt that the, uh, here far be it for me to be a writer, but I felt that the scene needed like a button at the end. It didn't, it didn't come together quite right. And I remember the first time I thought about doing it. And in the scene, I just halfway through the first take, I decided to do it. And everyone flipped out. Like
Starting point is 00:46:49 we didn't even like, they're like, are you okay? Oh my God, what happened guys? Can we get a medic in here? Something I was like, no, no, no, no, no. It was a bit, it was a bit guy. That's pretty courageous of you to do a, a, a unscheduled, almost pratfall on a treadmill running. That's advanced Scott. Thank you, my friend. Well, I pride myself on physical comedy, although I never get to do it. My wife is, aside from at home, my wife is sick of it. But it was, unfortunately, they liked it after they calmed down. And I had to do it, you know, seven more times. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Well, good thing you survived. I liked it because you were such a good yin-yang for Sarah because you're both sort of goofy and nervous and neurotic. And it was just so, she's doing all this ridiculous stuff and you're seemingly holding it together. And then she looks away and you trip on the treadmill. I thought that was really funny. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:47:42 It was, you know, finding, it's always a hard thing when you first come onto a show, even though you guys were in your first season, this is the 20th episode. So to try to establish a character amongst all these other characters is a really hard thing to do. And Sarah and I talked about it a bit.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And, you know, I think what we came up with for Sean and worked ultimately, you know, he got a little more confident as the this the show went on and his episodes got there but but it was fun playing this sort of nervous neurotic uh somewhat insecure um kid it was really interesting yeah yeah your your your character arc throughout the show is it's really it's very interesting because you do start off you and sarah are pretty much the same character you're just a male version of her. And then all of a sudden you develop this confidence, right?
Starting point is 00:48:28 And then you lose this confidence all of a sudden when she breaks up with you out of nowhere, you know, when you grow the beard and... And he forlornly rides a dolphin. They had me doing some strange things, which I hope we get to talk about in future episodes. Look at who I am inviting myself over. No, you, Scott. Scott, I never even want.
Starting point is 00:48:48 In a fat suit. Absolutely. Scott, you are so good for our ratings that we are going to have you back over and over. I hope you'll come back on episodes you have nothing to do with. I would love to, just to make fun of people. No, we're already inviting you back
Starting point is 00:49:03 because we have to talk about SeaWorld. Oh, yeah. I would like to because we have to talk about SeaWorld. Oh, yeah. I would like to say that I no longer support SeaWorld, but at the time we were happy to go to SeaWorld. I remember being so pissed off because I couldn't go. None of my scenes were at SeaWorld. No, that's right. Let me get this straight.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Y'all are all going to San Diego to hang out for a night in San Diego and ride dolphins, and I got to stay back at the motherfucking hospital? I was so pissed off about that. It was so fun, but this was all before we all saw the documentary Blackfish. Yes, and now we don't. We don't go there anymore. And now we encourage people to not go there anymore. But before we were all educated.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Before we were all educated. Before we were animal woke. And Scott, you did get to forlornly ride a dolphin, which is one of the coolest things anyone could ever do in their career. The things that I got to do on this show were still some of the highlights of my career.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I mean, between riding on the dolphin, doing this Betty the seal bit. I don't know if you remember this, but i had like a phone call with sarah and i turn my head and the seal turns his head towards me and i look away like it sticks its tongue out at me yeah uh i got to be like a like damn close to a killer whale and a beluga whale and it was a it was a really amazing experience and i'll never forget it think how sad that whale was scott while you were acting with it. I had no idea. It didn't let on.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Oh, my God. We're going to get mail for that one. We're going to get mail for that one. Scott's like, I had no idea. I did not know. It didn't say a damn thing. I would have had it back. Listen, we're trying to buy it back with some karma now by saying don't support it any longer.
Starting point is 00:50:45 So there you go. There you go. Oh, boy. All right. Let's talk about when he goes. I love when he goes, what are you, 8-11, with Hoffner. He goes, what are you serving for dinner tonight? And I go, that's not really my area.
Starting point is 00:51:00 He goes, I'd like chicken. That guy was great. He goes, I'd like chicken. That guy was great. He was just great. Just chicken, chicken. Chicken. Yeah, go ahead. I don't know where in the show that is, but I want to talk for a second about you two singing on the fire escape.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah. Yeah. Which was, A, I loved loved it and i love the musical theater references and and those are something that uh find a home throughout the life of this television show yeah but the smile that you had on your face zach yeah you were unable to hide yeah made me rewind it two or three times to be like is he just smiling because he's singing or no no he can't hold back his laughter. Scott, I had a Phantom of the Opera beach towel hung on my wall as a child.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I'm very aware. This was me living my best life. It was your Seinfeld moment. Your Seinfeld moment, unable to hide your smile. Someone was paying me well to hold Donald and sing musical theater to him. I was like, how could life get better than this? It was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And I appreciated you not being able to contain your show, getting a, getting a lead in a TV show was, was enough. Now you're letting me sing a love song to Donald on a fire escape. Come on. Oh, it was great.
Starting point is 00:52:21 And by the way, the way you guys did the dancing in the hallway, everybody looked professional like Sarah was going for it. Obviously, everyone that wasn't a lead was a dancer. And we rehearsed a lot. I'm going to say this. This is the best I've ever seen Sarah dance also, too. Me too.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Sarah can dance. Sarah, she can't sing, but she can dance. Dude, she was on fire in this shit, dude. Like, I've seen Sarah dance, and Sarah dances like, you know, Sarah dances. I'm not going to disrespect nobody. No, she knows her little. Sarah dances like she dances.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Well, she knows her. She has her little thing she does, which is adorable. But she was doing, like, full-on, you know, Broadway choreography. Yeah, dude. But so was Rob Macchio. So was Rob Macchio. Yes, he was. But Rob Macchio. So was Rob Macchio. Yes, he was. But Rob Macchio did, you know, I wonder if Rob Macchio ever did musical theater.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I bet he did. I bet he did. We should have a section where we go to Rob. This is a Bill Lawrence question. No, we should go to Rob. And now we go to Rob. He's like a correspondent. Rob?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah, going to Rob live. Rob is a very successful realtor now at the beach, Scott. I don't know if you know that. So when you're ready to buy your beach house, you better use Rob Macchio. I'm not going to be ready to buy my beach house for a while. Well, one day. But I'll use him when I do. Yes. I encourage anyone. We always like to give Rob shout outs. You can get Rob on Cameo and you can pay him a nominal fee to send you a video where he high fives your friends. So go on Cameo and hire Rob Macchio. And of course, if you're looking for real estate on the West side of Los
Starting point is 00:53:49 Angeles, we encourage you to hire him. I'd like to go on Cameo and have him and pay him whatever it costs just to watch him run line. By the way, Scott, I don't know. What's your birthday? I'm going to send you a cameo from Rob. Oh, that's great. July 15th is coming up. Oh, it's coming up. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope Rob will give it to me for free. But if not, I'm willing to pay. No, no, no. Cameo makes you pay. OK. Cameo makes you pay. Donald, don't you think we should hire Rob to send Scott Foley a high-five cameo?
Starting point is 00:54:24 I think that would be the best thing ever, and you have to share it too. You know, you can get really – my brother loves baseball more than anything, and they have like old-school – I mean, they have sports players. Is that what you call them? Sports players? Sure. Sports people? Sure.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Athletes? Yeah, sure. They have athletes. Sports players. Sports players. They have famous sports players. they have famous sports players and uh ball and bad guys but some of them are like i don't know if you like lenny dykstra i don't know if you've heard lenny dykstra on harvard stern lately but he's you know he's he's gotten
Starting point is 00:54:56 a little wacky and i was thinking about getting lenny dykstra for my brother to like send him a message are you guys on that you do cameo I'm not on there, but I occasionally scroll it because there's some people that I think would be very funny to hire for other people. Yeah. And so I've thought about it. But like I saw Olivia Wilde, I follow on Instagram and I'm friends with her and she loved that documentary Cheer.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I don't know if you saw Cheer. Yes, I loved it. But one of her friends hired all the kids all the kids from cheer on there hired every single one of them to send her birthday messages and so for her her feed on her birthday was all the kids from cheer sending her birthday messages i thought that was so cool that's a great idea so there you go it's a great gift idea there you go i'm giving i'm giving cameo a shout out although donald and i are not on there um have you guys have you guys ever met anyone that's as competitive as these guys are on this show?
Starting point is 00:55:50 You are. You think I'm that competitive? No, not in life, but sports-wise you are. When you were playing basketball back in the day. When it comes to playing sports against anyone, absolutely. Regardless of what it is, I want to win. You're absolutely right. Do you know anybody in life
Starting point is 00:56:05 that's like that other than Bill Lawrence? I was going to say Bill Lawrence, but other than Bill Lawrence... Bill's the most competitive person I know in real life. Where it's like you can't walk, don't walk faster than him or he's going to think it's a race? This is probably why it's in the script. I have a funny Bill Lawrence walking
Starting point is 00:56:24 story. We took a trip from Prague when we were shooting Whiskey Cavalier over to Amsterdam. And if you guys have never been there, it's a huge bicycle culture, right? Everyone rides bikes around. So we're walking down the sidewalks. And wherever you are, you're inundated with these bicycle bells ringing, constantly telling you to get out of the way. And you don't know where they're coming from. And you're looking behind you and you're always stepping off, trying to get out of the way and you don't know where they're Coming from and you're looking behind you and you're always Stepping off trying to get out of the way And we were walking down and there was
Starting point is 00:56:50 Nobody around us it had to be two in the morning We'd just seen A Raiden concert in Amsterdam Every show Even the guests give Raiden shout outs My wife was Bill was like we're going to go fly to Amsterdam and go see him,
Starting point is 00:57:06 and he does this song, and my wife was like, oh, my God, he has to sing Only You. So, of course, in the middle of his thing, he's like, and for Marika, I've got to sing Only You. And she's, like, tearing up. I'm like, I think he's making fun of you, babe, and he doesn't want to sing the song. But we're walking back to the hotel,
Starting point is 00:57:21 and there's, you know, it's dead. It's 2 in the morning, and there are all these bikes parked along. Nobody's riding bikes, but they're all sort of chained up along the sidewalk. And we're walking. Bill's a couple steps ahead of me. And I ring one of these locked up bikes bells. He damn near went to his knees. He was so afraid. He had such a PTSD thing. I've never seen Bill like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:57:44 It's not like he I don't think he'll ever go back to Amsterdam because of it. All right. We went to Amsterdam together. Yeah, Donald and I went to Amsterdam together. Oh, that was dangerous. Yeah. Careful. I don't know if we can tell any of those stories.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I don't think we can. I know they want to hear it. We had fun. We had some good times in Amsterdam. Did you guys have a good time in Amsterdam? It was the best. The best. We had fun. We had some good times in Amsterdam. Did you guys have a good time in Amsterdam? It was the best. The best.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah. Donald. I mean, it wasn't like that kind of good time because I was with work people. I don't know. But it was certainly that kind of good time. Yeah. We tried God's lettuce, and it was delicious. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:58:22 You didn't have one of those? What are those? This was before God's lettuce. This was before God's lettuce was legal in California. And we were, uh, really? Yeah. They really like it over there.
Starting point is 00:58:30 You know, now we had, it was a moon pie or there's something like that over there that you eat and it just wrecks you. Um, Oh, I wish I, I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:38 I wish I would have known. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:58:41 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:58:42 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:58:42 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:58:42 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:58:43 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Guys, this is a real show now. We're not just two guys doing this out of their closets. We have to go to advertisers. We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:58:51 When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful. That's where The Bright Side comes in. A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that's bringing you a daily dose of joy. I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce. Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters. We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy. But the Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new, and get into some friendly debates. That's right. Join us five days a week to see how life can look
Starting point is 00:59:23 from the bright side. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice, or figuring out how to navigate life's transitions, we'll talk through it all together. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, good people. This is Laia. Now, for years, we have celebrated Women's History Month at QLS
Starting point is 00:59:50 with a month of very special programming. This year, we have three Grammy Award winning ladies, Brittany Howard, Corinne Bailey Ray, and Lettucey. All three of these artists make music and write songs that fit many genres, and each
Starting point is 01:00:06 will be discussing new songs and albums. We also have the incomparable, incredible Queen of Dance, Fatima Robinson, who has won NAACP Image Awards, choreographed the Oscars, the Grammys, your favorite Gap ad, and Super Bowls. You know her from her work with Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, and of course, Aaliyah, and most recently, The Color Purple. Celebrate women's history with us at Quest Love Supreme every week in March. Listen to QLS on the iHeart
Starting point is 01:00:35 Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily Show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports, and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors. The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else,
Starting point is 01:01:06 like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to The Daily Show, ears edition, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back. I'm looking at both Scott Foley and Donald Faison in their closets. Scott has to continually wave his arm to make his lights go on. I wish we were recording the video of this because it would be delightful.
Starting point is 01:01:39 We'll start putting them out. We'll start putting them out. We just got to make people sign wafers. All right. Bring them in, Joel. And Dan, adjust the mic for Donald's Oprah introduction, because you know it can get loud. Donald, please adjust your mic for the Oprah introduction. Okay, I'll back up a little bit.
Starting point is 01:01:55 It's okay to worry about it. No, he's ready. He's a professional, Donald. Here comes Jenny. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Jenny Paulston! I think it's Poulston. Is it Poulston, Jenny? Yes, that's correct. That's what I said! Poulston!
Starting point is 01:02:14 Hi, Jenny. Welcome to Fake Doctors, Real Friends. You picked a very good day to be on because we have a very funny and handsome guest named Scott Foley. You might know him from the show Scandal, Felicity, Whiskey Foxtrot, Scrubs. Whiskey Cavalier. Whiskey Cavalier. Hi, Jenny. Sorry, Scott. Oh, hi, Scott.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Brutal. Nice to see you. Scott, do not flirt with Jenny, okay? This is our guest. Come on, she's there. Got all the flags behind her. She looks fantastic. Jenny, where are you calling in from?
Starting point is 01:02:46 So I live in Canberra, Australia. Canberra is the capital city of my fine country. On the West Coast. Yes, it is. Scott's showing off that he knows it's on the West Coast. I lived in Australia, Jenny. I know what I'm talking about. Wait, when did you live in Australia?
Starting point is 01:03:01 As a kid, I lived in Sydney for four years, in Snives, Sydney. Wow. Wow. Is it near Perth? No. Okay, Jesus. But it's near Melbourne. No, well, Sydney is near Melbourne, closer.
Starting point is 01:03:17 No, it's on the west coast of Australia. This is so embarrassing. Do you... But I want everyone to know that the American public school system spends very little time on geography. I think it was like two weeks in seventh grade. Or Australia. Yes. Jenny, thank you for coming on the show.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Do you have a question for any of us? You can ask us anything. Ask us anything. Yeah, I just wanted to say I started watching your show when I was in my early 20s like you guys were and it really resonated with me then I just started my career I had a mentor you know learning to do things on your own without a safety net and then I watched the series again a few years later when I had my children and they were babies and I was up in the night I put it on uh and certain episodes resonated in a different way uh because I was a parent uh and recently I watch it every school holidays uh and there's something new that pops up that's um you know um based on an experience
Starting point is 01:04:17 that I've just had it just makes me think of um you know something different so I just wanted to know uh with your experience of the last 20 years, what advice would you give to your younger selves now? Oh, man. You mean us as real people or our characters? Yeah, no, you as real people. Oh, real people. That's a really good question.
Starting point is 01:04:38 While making the show, I wish I could have been more present. You know what I mean? I hate to jump in front of you, Scott, but I got to get to this right away. Yeah, dive in. Dive in. I was so not there, let's say, when we were making that.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I was very much worried about being out and about. I was more interested in what came after work than what came with work back when we were making scrubs. And I wish I could have been more present at when it came to doing my job back then. That's the one thing that I look back and say, you know what? I know I had fun and I know I enjoyed myself. I wish I could have experienced all of that while making it. Yeah, my reaction is similar in a sense that, you know, I think we took it for granted that this would happen all the time. That is to say that, you know, we've spoken to this on
Starting point is 01:05:30 other podcasts before that these really special friendships would, would be on every job we did. And, and I think, and we've discussed before, you know, how we've all gone on and done these other jobs and some are successful, some are not, but still to this day, the bond that we all had that comes across on the screen, I think it's the reason people really, one of the reasons, of course, the writing first and foremost, but another reason was that the love that you see
Starting point is 01:05:59 between these characters was real. It was, it was, you're watching people who genuinely cared as much about each other in real life as, as they did when, as the characters did on screen. So I think that, I think I took that for granted. I was a young actor. This was my first big job. And, and I thought, oh, this is what it's always like to be on a set. Everyone loves each other. Everyone wants to hang out on weekends, even after we've worked all these days. And, and, oh my God, the scripts are always hilarious. And, and it took so many years to be like, oh no, this is a diamond in the rough. Not only the writing staff that Bill
Starting point is 01:06:35 assembled was just the dream team. I mean, they've all gone off to be hugely successful on their own right. But, but also just the bond that, that the seven main characters of us had was was something I haven't really ever seen again, whether I'm an actor or a director. It's just it was just so rare. So that's what I think, too. It's a similar answer to Donald. Now, Scott's been on three, in my opinion, three very successful shows. I'm interested to hear how he might not. He might not have an answer related to ours, though. Not to ours, but I'm interested in hearing
Starting point is 01:07:10 if it was like that for each one of those successes. You know what I mean? Like Felicity... You know, I think... Just directly answering your question, I think for me, looking back, if I had to do it again, I would try to relax. I think I was holding on really tight. It was very important to me. I didn I had to do it again I would I would try to relax I think I was holding
Starting point is 01:07:26 on really tight it was very important to me I didn't I didn't go to college I didn't want to do anything else this was my only shot really like if I wasn't gonna be a working actor I'd be digging holes you know I I don't know what else I'd do so I was I was really uptight and nervous about making sure I got it right and, and really focused on work. And I think I, if I had to do it again, I'd take a breather and be more like Donald. But not that far, not that far. But you know what I mean? Like we were, I was young and wanted to be successful and was working towards a goal. but at a certain point you've got to sort of stop and smell the flowers too. Did you guys all get along on Scandal?
Starting point is 01:08:10 We did. Oh, damn it. I was hoping to get some clickbait going here, Scott. No, man. I was looking for, ever since I'd done Scrubs, I was looking for a show that had a similar vibe, a similar friendship, not just in front of the camera but behind it and i found it on scandal and we still keep in touch i get texts where i have a group chain
Starting point is 01:08:30 group text chain i get uh something multiple things daily uh we vacation together could i join that group text scott if you have something to offer i'd love love to. I do. You know, I have a long history with Tony Goldman. I know you do, yes. And I love that man a lot. And he directed a movie I was in called The Last Kiss, and we've stayed friendly over the years. And I just think he's a very, very special human being. I wish he was the real president.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I wish he was the real president. I think we all wish someone else was the real president right now, don't we? Sorry, Jenny, that's not what you asked. That's what we're getting. We don't have to bring an Australian into our political situation. Oh, they're in it. Jenny, do you have another question for any of us? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Because I want to look out for my fellow Australians, I just want to ask, why do you think Dr. Cox hates Hugh Jackman so much? You know, this is a question that's been asked so often and we never answered it i think we're going to throw it to bill but i my theory is that cox who was such an alpha competitive guy was jealous because at the time hugh jackman when we were making the show it was right at at the time with Hugh Jackman exploding and becoming a megastar who was not just your average megastar. He was doing everything. He could sing. He did everything. He could sing.
Starting point is 01:09:52 He could dance. He could host award shows. He could be an action star. He could be a dramatic star. He was everywhere, and he was doing everything, and everyone liked him. A lot of stars become polarizing. Everybody loved him yo this dude could this dude could host the tony's and then stab somebody up as wolverine man it was like it was like just 180 after 180. so i think um jenny that's my guess is that cox was
Starting point is 01:10:18 the character of cox was jealous of this handsome you know muscular man who could do anything and everything and people just loved him and adored him and so he was jealous of him handsome, you know, muscular man who could do anything and everything. And people just loved him and adored him. And so he was jealous of him. But let's ask Bill. That's a good ask, Bill. Bill, the fans have been asking for many years. And now a very nice woman from Australia has asked. And we just have to get the answer. Why does Dr. Cox hate Hugh Jackman so much? Look, we love Hugh Jackman. When we were trying to come up with who Dr. Cox hate Hugh Jackman so much? Look, we love Hugh Jackman. When we were trying to come up with who Dr. Cox hated for no reason, I think we thought it was important that we came up with somebody that everybody loved and that could do everything. I mean, who has anything against Hugh Jackman?
Starting point is 01:10:55 He's Wolverine. He's in action movies. He's apparently a lovely guy. He's handsome. He's like People Magazine's sexiest person. He can sing. He can dance. You's like People Magazine's sexiest person. He can sing. He can dance. You know, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Here's some stories. Slid that one in. He starred in The Music Man on Broadway and that Peter Allen thing. He's just too damn talented. I hope my buddy Scott Foley is there. Scott, torture them. Jenny, I hope that worked for you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Five, six, seven, eight. Oh, no, no, no, Dan, no. Dan, you know what? Most people, only Bill usually gets the song when he says it, but because Scott Foley is so darn charming, Dan hit the button again. Sick of it. Thanks, Dan. He couldn't control himself.
Starting point is 01:11:43 I'm sick of it. Sick of it. Let me control my own tiny little universe please jenny yes i'm gonna give you one more question oh wow jenny you're getting the rare third question uh yeah yeah my other question was um what's your proudest moment from being on the show? Your proudest performance? Oh, wow. I really enjoyed doing the musical theater, the musical episode.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I had a lot of fun doing that. Growing up, I did a lot of musical theater, but not at that scope or that level. And a lot of the people that, you know, were in Scrubs the musical, I saw later on in La La Land or whatever, and that made me feel really good. Like, you know, I danced with some of L.A.'s best dancers and stuff like that and got to perform with some of L.A.'s best.
Starting point is 01:12:36 And, you know, as you know, everybody comes here to make it in the industry, and it felt good to be amongst Hollywood's elite dancers and being able to dance with them. I really enjoyed that. I'm very proud that I was able to do that. Yeah. I think I'm proud of that episode too. And also I'm really proud of, you know, it was really underappreciated, I think, but
Starting point is 01:12:56 we did this sort of Princess Bride homage episode that was, you know, the fantasies and sort of a medieval thing. that was, you know, the fantasies and sort of a medieval thing. And it kind of, it was, I believe it was during the writer's strike season and the season ended early and we didn't know if the show was coming back. And it was sort of presented as the season finale
Starting point is 01:13:18 and possibly a series finale because no one knew if we were coming back. And so it kind of got treated like, oh, what does that have to do with Scrubs or ending the show? But I really am proud of the directing work I did on it. And I think it looks really pretty. And it was a huge scale for Scrubs.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah, I was going to say the scope was huge. Yeah, it was big. And we spent a lot of money. And I think it looked like it. And a lot of people worked very hard on it. And then it sort of got underappreciated because people were like, please tell me that's not the series finale. And I was like, no one meant that that was the series finale. But I thought that was good.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Yeah, I loved that episode, I remember. Thank you. Thank you, Jenny. All right, we have to move on, but thank you so much for coming on the show. Scott, do you want to say anything to Jenny? Thank her for coming on. I'd like to thank much for coming on the show. Scott, do you want to say anything to Jenny? Thank her for coming on. I'd like to thank you for coming on the show too, Jenny.
Starting point is 01:14:08 I, uh, I hope, uh, forgive me for, for getting into this, but I hope, uh,
Starting point is 01:14:12 uh, everything's everyone's okay now that the, you guys have those terrible fires and we were all sort of thinking about you over, uh, uh, over on the side of the world. So I'm,
Starting point is 01:14:19 I'm glad you guys are better. Yeah. It's been a big, very difficult year, but yeah, we're, we're all getting there. Scott's message was nicer than mine. So I would like to say that I hope everything's okay.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Nobody cares. Nobody cares. And that's what we call a callback joke, everybody. All right. Thank you, Jenny. Thanks for coming on. Yeah. Thanks so much. Thanks everyone. When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful. That's where The Bright Side comes in. A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that's bringing you a daily dose of joy. I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce. Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters.
Starting point is 01:15:02 We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy. But the Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new and get into some friendly debates. That's right. Join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice or figuring out how to navigate life's transitions, we'll talk through it all together.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, good people, this is Laia. Now, for years, we have celebrated Women's History Month at QLS with a month of very special programming. This year, we have three Grammy Award winning ladies, Brittany Howard, Corinne Bailey Ray and Letticey.
Starting point is 01:15:53 All three of these artists make music and write songs that fit many genres. And each will be discussing new songs and albums. We also have the incomparable, incredible queen of dance, Fatima Robinson, who has won NAACP Image Awards, choreographed the Oscars, the Grammys, your favorite Gap ad, and Super Bowls.
Starting point is 01:16:14 You know her from her work with Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, and of course, Aaliyah, and most recently, the color purple. Celebrate women's history with us at Questlove Supreme every week in March. Listen to QLS on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:16:29 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily Show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports, and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors.
Starting point is 01:16:55 The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to The Daily Show, ears edition, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Very sweet. Very sweet.
Starting point is 01:17:21 She's very sweet. Yo, JD is a rat. Hold up. Let's get into this. What you trying to talk Yo, JD is a rat. Hold up. Let's get into this. What you trying to talk about? JD is a little bitch. He's a rat. He is a rat.
Starting point is 01:17:31 That is funny, though. When I go and tell on you, though, how funny is that fantasy with me on Johnny's lap? It's very funny, but you are a rat. With a blue hat? He goes, who's my big boy? I am. That was great. I love that they show you the two sides of, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:52 when something bad happens, they show you the two sides. They show you the one that runs right to the principal and cries to the principal, oh, my God, and he did this. And then they show the other person who runs to the principal and freaking tells the principal off john c's character uh cox is the dad that goes to the school and beats up the bully for fucking with his kid you know what i mean beats up the 12 year old boy for fucking with his son oh you're gonna touch my son like that how about this go tell your dad go tell your dad that dr cox smacked the shit out of you. And it goes south.
Starting point is 01:18:26 But it was very interesting to watch the two dynamics. Like one guy is a complete rat. Yeah. And the other one. That's funny. I didn't even see that interpretation of it. But that's smart. That is exactly what happens.
Starting point is 01:18:41 It's the two sides of a coin of how you deal with the situation. Yeah. Anyway. Why would Turk even promise to side with me? I mean, he's a really good doctor. We know that. He's not going to go not not. It's almost ridiculous that he wouldn't even say, yeah, don't worry, I'll back you up. He's going to come in and give his honest analysis. Right. Well, I think he was I think Turk was trusting the fact that you had done your job and you were literally calling him in for a favor.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Just tell this dude that he doesn't have anything to worry about. And then when Turk looked at it... Wait, hold on. I look at it like if there's a slight chance that Turk gets the opportunity to operate, he's going to say, yeah, I'm going to operate. I think there's a slight chance that Turk gets the opportunity to operate,
Starting point is 01:19:26 he's going to say, yeah, I'm going to operate. Right. You know what I mean? I think that's a real thing, obviously, taken from, obviously, this is all inspired by what we were told by real doctors, that the surgeons are more apt to be like, let's cut him up. Yeah, let's get it out. Let's do it. Let's do our thing. I love at 1215 when the janitor is giving my patient advice, and he's like, I'm going to go with surgery. And I go, 15 when the janitor is giving my patient advice.
Starting point is 01:19:45 And he's like, I'm going to go with surgery. And I go, he's a janitor. And he goes, but he seems confident. Again, the guy did not say a sentence that I didn't laugh out loud at. He was very funny. How about Sarah all dolled up for Scott Foley at 1345? Beautiful. How lucky was I in my stupid big overcoat?
Starting point is 01:20:07 Why was your jacket 11 sizes too big? Don't know. Did you not have a fitting? Do you remember? It was like that jacket was three sizes too big. The only thing I could chalk it up to was that was just what people were wearing back then, but it seemed really big. That was huge, dude.
Starting point is 01:20:23 It was the Armani baggy look back then. Like, I don't know what that was. Do you really think it was style or just fit wrong? Because you're supposed to be playing this like heartthrob and there you are. I mean, you should be looking like in a nice outfit. I have to think it was style or else someone, I mean, there's, you know, no less than three people, but maybe 30 people on set who should be like hey he looks really stupid in that and it must have been it must have been the style it had
Starting point is 01:20:51 to be the style it had to be style because that jacket would it came down to your knees almost and it was huge it was like a doctor's smock it was a monster just Just ridiculous. Well, I thought Sarah looked beautiful in her all dolled up moment. I think she looked beautiful even after her dolled up moment. I know. Even with the puke. It was so funny. She's covered with puke and blood and poop. Yep.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Yep. They did a really good job on there. That was funny. I remember filming that. You guys get into that really funny, awkward poop conversation. And then they cut to Judy. It's so funny because you guys are awkwardly flirting about poop. And you cut to Judy's deadpan face.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Well, you know, and then right after that, there's a, there's a great moment where the nurse has like, you know, Sarah and Judy are talking, you know, I don't think anybody noticed. It's not a big deal. And then one of the nurses walked by and says, hey, poopy, which I thought was just hilarious. Aloma. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I'm really noticing all these years later that many of Aloma's lines are moving. She's always walking by. Always on the move. Always on the move. Hey, poopy. That way you can slot her into someone else's shot. But that was very funny, too, your whole conversation on how you took a poop. Sure. Not here, but not here before earlier i was down there i think you know we we we delve into their relationship deeper in other episodes but i
Starting point is 01:22:16 think that's really the the foundation for them you know poop is the foundation it's a house built on poop it well you know the relationship didn't last long and we know poop is the foundation. It's a house built on poop. Well, you know, the relationship didn't last long, and we know poop is not a solid foundation. Depends on what you had. They should not have built their house on a foundation of poop. What about at 1420 when the janitor goes, look, I'm just a janitor. I don't know much, but I know this.
Starting point is 01:22:41 You need surgery. What? How did he get in that room? How did he? Was that the beginning of the speech where at the end of it, he grabs a newspaper and goes back into the toilet? No, that's a different one.
Starting point is 01:22:58 That was genius. That's before he starts going, like that's the last moment with my patient. But then we cut around to him going to all of the that's the last moment with my patient but then yes then we cut around to him going to all of my patients around the entire hospital telling them they all need surgery you have to yeah that was hilarious and neil's so funny um that i'm having surgery right now oh that was amazing great that was great i'm having surgery and i'm loving it and i'm loving it it's a bizarre infomercial and then donald what do you say you go let's get you out of your skin
Starting point is 01:23:31 let's get you out of your skin let's cut you out your skin i'm having that girl did a great job i'm having surgery right now and loving it you know the writers always have always done a good job on this show of of finding really subtle gender specific moments that there's something that and I think Bill takes a lot of it from Krista. You know, there's moments where he's like there was a character at one point in the show. I don't remember what season it was, but a woman talks about chewing on her thumbnail until it bleeds or the side of her thumb till it bleeds, which is a very specific sort of woman thing. until it bleeds or the side of her thumb till it bleeds, which is a very specific sort of woman thing. And there was a moment in here where Judy says, you know, I'm not sure there's a cat heaven.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Like I don't tell Turk I sometimes cry because I'm not sure there's a cat heaven. Like I thought that was a genius, really subtle, gender-specific moment. By the way, in the spirit of what you're saying, Scott, then they cut to Sarah and the look on her face is like, there's no cat heaven. What do you mean there's no cat heaven it's a really really sweet it's a really subtle moment but they cut to Sarah's face as though
Starting point is 01:24:32 she's just heard like for the first time there's no cat heaven like she just had Santa Claus ruined for her I thought it was great man I thought it was really smart and Judah delivered it beautifully the amount of times i'll run into my wife and be like hey why are you crying she's like never mind and you know it's because she's not sure if there's a cat heaven or something ridiculous like that um at 1721 sarah bumps into colonel doctor and uh i just was exciting because you know colonel doctor didn't always get a lot of foreground time but he got a little foreground moment uh coleman's law i didn't i didn't always get a lot of foreground time, but he got a little foreground moment. Coleman's Law.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I didn't even see that. That went completely over my head. I missed that. Yeah, it's even in the Scrubs Wiki. And what I love about it, we call him Colonel Doctor because that's what we thought his name was, but because it's eventually revealed that his name is Coleman's Law, it says in the Scrubs Wiki, like, Sarah bumps into Coleman Slaw. It says in the Scrubs wiki, like, Sarah bumps into Coleman Slaw.
Starting point is 01:25:33 The Scrubs wiki is so accurate that they call Colonel Dr. Coleman Slaw. Coleman Slaw. That's awesome. At 2035, the patient in bed is uh richard wells uh yes was our very right our very yeah he was our best first ad first ad and upm also he went on to be our upm later on when scott harris and uh that's right franklin got better we should say for those of you for those of you don't know a first a first AD, a first assistant director,
Starting point is 01:26:07 is the man or woman who is sort of running the set, sort of the one calling out, saying, okay, here we go, we got to move. Really, you think of it in theater like a stage manager, but keeping everyone moving along and sort of the team leader so the director can ideally focus on the creative aspects of things.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Well, the first AD is usually the bad guy. Let's just put it that way. The first AD is the one that you come to with all the problems. You don't necessarily go to the director. Yes. Well, Richard Wells was so great at his job and one of the best first ADs I've ever worked with, and I forgot that he did a cameo, and here he is as one of my patients patients that finally finally says he'll he'll go the medical route solely because the janitor has told him so uh at the end of the episode uh also also
Starting point is 01:26:52 richard wells directed a few episodes of scrubs also uh there he he did a lot on the show he wasn't just the ad yeah he also became i was bummed though when he when he decided to become uh a upm and he was no longer on set. Can I ask you a question? Yes. What is a UPM? A UPM is a production manager. Unit production manager.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Handling the organization of everything. If you need a crane, the UPM is the one often calling the rental house and saying, we need a crane on Tuesday. Who's bringing it? Timmy or John. The line producer, kind of underneath the line producer organizing anything and everything, the nuts and bolts of a production.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Scott, you switched to eating, I see. Well, I switched to my damn things running out of batteries and I can't hear a fucking thing now. But yeah, it's my anniversary, so my wife made me these things and I got to eat them before I come out of my closet
Starting point is 01:27:41 unless she's going to say like, why didn't you eat the cookie I made you? Oh. Sorry. happy anniversary. How many years? Thanks so much. 13 years. Oh, my goodness. 13 years. Wow. Yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:27:54 That's great. And I was excited. I thought I could just listen to your explanation of line producer versus UPM, and no one would notice, but I forgot that we were on Zoom. I'm sure everyone tuned out when I started describing AUPM. All right, listen, we did it. As Howard Stern says, we've said it all.
Starting point is 01:28:13 This has been really fun, Scott. Did you have a good time? I loved being here. I love seeing your faces. You know, we haven't had the chance to see too many people recently, so it meant a lot to me. And it has meant a lot to me to be a part of this, have been a part of this show. I look back fondly on it and, and consider both of you, uh, good friends of mine.
Starting point is 01:28:30 So I appreciate you having me on. Well, we miss you, dude. I gotta tell you. Yeah. I miss you, man. I, I, uh, I gotta tell you, you know, we talk about it all the time. I ran into chip at boat boating, uh, yeah. And, uh, and I was like, you like you know we gotta we gotta get together again this was i thought this was back when we thought this pandemic would last about
Starting point is 01:28:53 a month and a half yeah and it's uh you know i'd love to get out and play golf with you again once this is all said and done man yeah we'll find the time to play golf and i'd love you and i'll play tennis i'd love to watch you defeat bill in tennis if possible. Well, if we'll find out when he's injured and then we'll go out and play. Because I can't, because I can't beat Bill in any sports. I often try and find people that can beat him so I can just watch. I'm game. Hey, you know, I wanted to talk about, and I don't know if you remember this before we go, you know, Donald and I have had the chance to work together, not just on, on a bunch of things, but you and I, aside from Scrubs, and this is something I regret very much after doing, I don't know, however, meant two or three episodes in the first season, you wrote a short film about robots, maybe?
Starting point is 01:29:41 Probably, probably. I love robots. And you sent me the script and I was busy doing something else, so I couldn't do it. But I've always regretted not being able to work with you as a director on something you wrote. And that's still something I look back on. I totally remember it. I can't believe you remember that. I vaguely remember it, too. I was trying to start directing things because I had gone to film school and I was doing scrubs and it was so amazing
Starting point is 01:30:05 but of course in my mind as a young go-getter was thinking, I got to start making stuff and I wrote that a wacky short and I asked you to be in it but thank you
Starting point is 01:30:13 for almost saying yes. Yeah, I absolutely would have said yes if I wasn't able to but I, look, I love both you guys and we'll hopefully
Starting point is 01:30:21 work with you until we die on different things. I made a really cool short film recently, Scott, that you should check out. It's called In the Time It Takes to Get There. And I guess I've taken this opportunity to give a shout out to that short.
Starting point is 01:30:34 So if you're listening to this, check it out. It's got Alicia Silverstone. In the Time It Takes to Get There? Yeah, it's got Alicia Silverstone, Donald's old co-star. And it's got Florence Pugh, the very exciting young actress, Oscar nominee. And it's really good. And it's on YouTube and you can go watch it. It was, Adobe had this contest where people, college kids could design a movie poster and the winning movie
Starting point is 01:30:59 poster design using Photoshop, the prize was that I would write and direct a short film inspired by the movie poster. Oh, yes. You know, I saw an article about that. Anytime I see your guys' names in any sort of press, I check it out. And I saw an article about this, so I will definitely check it out. Oh, check it out. I recently won a Webby for it, which is a cool web award. But check it out. Nobody cares, Zach. Oh my God. Dick. Every fan. I wish everybody could see Donald's face when he says that right now. I wish everyone... In his closet,
Starting point is 01:31:29 with his hands on his head. I wish everyone could see my face right now because I've successfully been made to feel sad. You're not, but you look like you're sitting underneath. By the way, I want you to know
Starting point is 01:31:42 that I knew everybody listening would be like, oh, I can't wait for him to say nobody cares, Sean. I'm the only one in this. You've said it multiple times. Donald has. I'm the only one who never said those. Nobody cares, Zach. The problem is you said them to begin with and not a day goes by where someone either personally or on social media doesn't comment or say nobody. either personally or on social media,
Starting point is 01:32:04 doesn't comment or say nobody. I mean, I could say happy birthday to my lovely wife of 13 years or happy anniversary of 13 years, and I'll get six nobody cares, Sean's. And it makes me equally happy and fucking irate. I know. I get it, man. Well, listen, we got Bill saying 5678 on this podcast,
Starting point is 01:32:22 and I post something on Instagram, and every other comment is 5678. Well, I, we, we, we got Bill was saying five, six, seven, eight on this podcast. And I post something on, on Instagram and every other comment is five, six, seven, eight. Well, I mean, you were, you texted me. Are you ready to come on? And I think I just wrote back five, six, seven, eight. And your response was like, yeah, okay. We get it. Uh, listen guys, you've gone an hour and a half. Uh, this has been amazing. We love the fans. Thank you for listening. Uh, we hope we're making you laugh a little in these crazy times that's our hope uh you can email questions to scrubs iheart at gmail.com please follow donald on instagram he's very envious of the amount of followers i have dude you have like 1 million 1.3 million followers on instagram yeah. You guys have 600,002.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Well, listen, by the way, Scott, I follow you on Instagram, by the way. Thanks ma'am. It's you can follow Scott Foley too.
Starting point is 01:33:11 And look at how handsome he is. And, and that's it. We love you. We'll see you next time. Five, six, seven,
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