Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic - 425: My Changing Ways with Sarah Chalke and Amanda Kloots

Episode Date: January 3, 2023

On this week's episode, the crew complete their internships and their lives begin to take divergent paths. In the real world, Chalke is back and she's mastered her recording equipment. We're also join...ed by Amanda Kloots, who just released her book "Live Your Life," honoring her late husband Nick Cordero.   Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:40 Fingers crossed. Did you do it? Can you hear us? And we cannot hear you. Okay. I'm totally kidding. She's doing a bit. Sarah. You are so good. Sarah, there's no
Starting point is 00:01:55 way you nailed it on time one. I don't believe it. And she's recording. Oh my god, you guys, she made it. She figured it out. It took four seasons, but she figured it out. I'm recording. You are incredible. I pre-connected the earbuds, earbuds, the buds, connected them to the Bluetooth. Wow. Got the link open.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I'm so proud of you. I got my tea. Donald's going to have a tear in his eye. Donald! Yo, Donald. What up, yo? I figured out her audio without any help. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:02:23 No, she did. Not just my audio. I figured out my video. I figured out her audio without any help. Bullshit. No, she did. Not just my audio. I figured out my video. I figured out my lunch. I figured out all of the things. You look great. You look great. You've been posting some thirsty pictures on Instagram, and I've been heartening them big.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Thirsty? What does that mean? I've been posting. Thirsty is when you know you look fine, and you put it out there. Oh, I thought she was posting shit like the Bugs Bunny Challenge. No, you put out all these thirsty pics, Donald, but Sarah occasionally drops one. I'm like, okay, Sarah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I did not know that's what I was doing, but I will try to continue to do that. No, please do because your fans, I'm sure, love it and I appreciate it as your fake former lover. Well, I feel like I kind of try really – i'll be like okay i'm gonna i'm gonna put something on it and then i forget and then a month goes by and then i'm like i'm gonna do it um but mostly i'm just so proud in this moment because i feel like zach texted me earlier and he's like practice getting online three words he texted me three words practice getting online and i was like thinking i was like i've charged the earbuds. I've charged the computer.
Starting point is 00:03:26 By the way, I don't know another grown adult that I would text practice getting online. Well, I mean, yeah, it's, it is, it's, it's a mystery, but I do feel like there's something that happens when you kind of, you know, you go back to that, you revert to that dynamic. Cause like I was just pouring water and I don't, I mean, I, I feel like I've learned where my arms are in space. Anyways,
Starting point is 00:03:54 the water dumped obviously all over. And I was like, it's because I'm about to get on the podcast. You spilled water. You spilled water. Did you spill it all over your recording device? The recording devices were all fine. just my pants and my socks. So I'm not in socks anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Socks had to go. Wow. Sarah, you are the clumsiest person I've ever met in my life. You cannot write this stuff. No. You cannot write this stuff. There's never been a day since I've known her, and I've known her for 20 years, where it's like, what's up? Nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:04:24 No, I woke up, and I have known her for 20 years where it's like, what's up? Nothing happened. No, I woke up and I have no stories for today. Sarah would come back from freaking break with adventures like a car almost ran my whole family over. Luckily for me. My dogs almost ate my dad. We were in a tent. The tent was
Starting point is 00:04:39 surrounded. Sarah, I want to tell you something. We did a big interview for the Washington Post, and they didn't put in my favorite part, where she asked us a very good question. She said to Donald and I, what is one thing you really see now from watching the show back that you didn't fully appreciate back in the day?
Starting point is 00:05:00 Right away, both of our answers at the same time. Same answer. The brilliance of Sarah Chalk. Shut the fuck up. Same answer. That's the brilliance of Sarah Chalk. Shut the fuck up. Without hesitation, we both said how fucking genius Sarah Chalk is. I mean, people listening are not going to know that I'm blushing. You're blushing? They're not going to be able to see me blushing right now because it's audio.
Starting point is 00:05:22 No, but we meant it, Sarah. I really mean that. I know Donald does too you know when we're doing the show we're so caught up in our own trying to be funny I obviously knew you were funny we spent so much time together but there's things that I really noticed in hindsight one that we always teased Rob but even though Rob had one line every time he says that it's funny and the other is you you're just you're such a gifted actress and comedian. That is really nice.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And thank you. And I feel like everything I learned, I learned on this show. So that's the truth. Congratulations on season two of Firefly Lane also. That's your second standing O in 30 seconds, Sarah. There are a lot of people out there, my wife included. Well, I'm going to tell you something right now. My wife included with, I guess, millions of people out there are so excited for season two. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Oh, I'm so happy. I'm so excited. I love doing it. I'm so happy we get to do it again. I really am. And by the way, Michael Spiller, who was one of our favorite directors on this show, you know we talked about him several times. He was one of the best directors we had.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I heard a rumor that he's going to be one of your main directors on the show this year. I'm so pumped. I'm so pumped. I mean, when I heard that, obviously there was like our core group on Scrubs and Spiller was one of them. And he's such a good director.
Starting point is 00:06:43 He's also just so chill. Like he just sets that tone on set of like, it's all going to work out. Yeah. And he also has obviously such a knack for comedy. I have one question for you. Are you doing the new Psyched movie? I'm not.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I'm not. I'm so happy they're doing another one. I don't like it with them. I have problems with them. Would you be trading on us? You're a trader kind of sometimes. I think it's kind of a betrayal. Like, sometimes.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I think it's a betrayal, Donald. I do agree that it's a betrayal. It's a bit of a betrayal. No, I feel it in my heart place. Right in your heart place? I feel like, yeah, that's why I couldn't do another one. Maybe we should get another famous blonde comedian to do our movie, Donald. Don't you even think about it.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Kaley Cuoco. I hear she's doing a lot right now. Don't you even think about it. Think about it. Okay, okay, it'll be fine. Okay, bring one. You can have, just bring Becky one, and then I'll feel like there's some. No, we don't want Becky one. No, no, Think about it. Okay. Okay. It'd be fine. Okay. Bring on, you can have, just bring Becky one.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And then I'll feel like there's some, we don't want no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Starting point is 00:07:54 no, no, no, no, Did. Do you know who I am? And I was like, yeah, I know who you are. Calm down.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah. I got a smile. That's right. Number one, motherfucker. Number one. I was like, gosh. We never had her on Scrubs. We should have had her do a funny cameo. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I feel like we talked about it at some point. Becky 1 slash 3. And I was 2 slash 4. There would have been a really funny fantasy in there right i mean yeah instead you guys just called me second becky for eight years how's it going up there in canada i know you like to be up there and um and um it's a beautiful time of year right what's happening up there are you oh yeah it's like it's pouring rain just just just a downpour today just a downpour really um yeah but that's i mean june is kind of like that sometimes uh i am i i'm um yeah it's going great i mean we're we're doing
Starting point is 00:08:52 good up here it's a we're a little behind the states in terms of the rollout of the vaccines but i just got my appointment for my second dose and i can't wait i'm like the one who calls every day is it time is it time is it my turn I have a turn yet? Is it my turn? I was about to say, when are you guys going to open back up? Yeah, when can you open those borders so we can come visit you without a two-week quarantine? I got offered a role, and they were like, listen, it's one day of work, but we need you to freaking. Two weeks. By the way, and it's a no fucking joke, two weeks. Do you know what it is?
Starting point is 00:09:20 They put you in a hotel, and they watch you you and you're not allowed to leave the hotel room. Yeah. So now is that just for the first- My friend just did it. My friend just did it. She had a balcony she was allowed to sit on. But other than that, no outside. One line.
Starting point is 00:09:37 It was like one scene, 14 days quarantine. Fuck that. I was like, no, I'm going to pass on this. I was like, I was totally Randy Jackson. That's going to be a no for me, dog. Yeah. We were talking about bringing my movie up there, and it was a big no from me when I heard about the for real two weeks
Starting point is 00:09:53 in a room by myself. No thanks. Wait, which one? Your two brother does or the one you're directing in? No, my new film I'm directing, I'm trying to make it in Jersey. I want to make it in Jersey where it takes place. But when you're budgeting a movie, you can't help every producer's first line is well let's explore
Starting point is 00:10:08 canada and i mean that's like you can just that's like the first thing any producer's gonna say well we should look at canada and uh and then i said well i looked at the two weeks by myself in an apartment and i decided we're not looking at can anymore. That's how I've gotten every job my entire life. We should look at Canada. I don't know, Sarah, since you're the film expert. Your dreams come true. Sarah, yeah, your dreams come true. American actors don't want to go there,
Starting point is 00:10:35 so you have all the roles for yourself. But you're on a show. You can't take any more roles. You've already got one. But do your movie in Canada. I feel like the quarantine's going to be, you can cut all this out of the podcast. Do you have any insider information for when the
Starting point is 00:10:47 quarantine for Canada is going away, Sarah? Oh, let's not. I mean, you know I make all the decisions. I just feel like if you made the right calls, you might be able to find out. Yeah. I could probably pull some strings as well. When do you need it done by? I got it. Well, if you could
Starting point is 00:11:03 do it by the 15th, like the rest of America is going to do, then I could probably take that right back to you, motherfucker. Wait, the 15th of June? Yeah, man. We're about to open up. America's about to open up the 15th of June. Is it all America or California? I know California's fully open on the 15th.
Starting point is 00:11:20 It's America. Oh, okay. Don't yell at me. So I feel like... Wait, ZB, aren't you directing your movie in September? We are scheduled to start principal photography mid-October. Oh, you're going to be fine. I read that they're going to potentially have, like, lift the quarantine for travelers who are double-vaxxed in July. Okay, well, I can't really depend on Sarah Chalk Hurd. I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:45 it's pretty reliable. Can you imagine if I say to Morgan Freeman, Morgan, I'm so happy you're doing the movie. I'm going to need you to sit alone in a room for two weeks. Because Sarah was not correct. God damn mind.
Starting point is 00:12:00 That's what he'd say to you. True. Okay, so Jersey instead? Does he say, this is Morgan? When he says, this is Morgan, you. Zach, this is Morgan. True. Okay, so Jersey instead? Does he say, this is Morgan? When he says, this is Morgan, does he go, this is Morgan Freeman? This is Morgan Freeman. You know, my outgoing message. Did I tell you guys that story about how he was my outgoing message? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It broke my heart. Did I tell it on the podcast? No, you didn't, but you could tell it. I was directing him and going in style, and I knew he was wrapped because I'm the director. I know when someone's last shot it is, but it was early for him. He was surprised. And I go, this is your last shot. And he goes, I don't believe you. And I go, I'm the director. I know when someone's last shot is I'd have, I'm the one who comes up with the shots and you're not in any of the other ones you're done. And he goes, I don't believe you. I go make me a bet. So we bet
Starting point is 00:12:40 him. And if I won, he had to record an outgoing voicemail message on my phone, which I, of course, won because I know what I'm doing. And so for the longest time, I had, hello, this is Morgan Freeman. Zach can't come to the phone right now. Please leave a message. If I could have anybody do that for me, it would be Tracy Morgan as Brian Fellows. I'm Brian Fellows. Donald Faison can't come to the phone right now. That would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Speaking of, Zach got bit by a Rottweiler. I did get bit by a Rottweiler, but you clearly don't listen to the show, so how did you hear that? I was listening to the show. I don't believe you. Then I know that you showed you had to apologize joelle because she's gonna have to see your boxers oh you do listen to the show i thought you didn't listen
Starting point is 00:13:29 i i can't believe that that happened i feel like someone i feel like one of sarah's relatives told her right and he asked joelle permission to reveal his boxers things that were discussed on the podcast. Sarah, I feel like you. I was like, you're not going to believe what happened. Okay, I'm on set, right? And the Rottweiler is perfectly fine. All of a sudden, it latches onto my leg.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But it was a stunt gone awry, and I didn't want the children to worry. So I had to wait. I just had to wait. So they left the room, and I was bawling and sobbing. And I had to call Anne, because she would know what to do. Not only did she comfort me in a hard, difficult time, but she also knew the medical answer of all the things to put in the wound.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Wow, that was Sarah Chalk doing me doing Sarah Chalk. Alright, listen, before we count in, I want to tell everyone that our guest today is our friend Amanda Klutz, who we all know and love. And she has written a book about Nick and losing Nick called Live Your Life that is just extraordinary. I am not just saying this because she's our friend. I even said this to her face.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I said I was expecting it to be interesting to me because I know the story and I love you, but I could not put this book down. It is so well done. She wrote it with her sister, who's a professional writer, so I'm sure that she helped her, but it's extraordinary. So we're going to talk about all that. That's after we co-host with Sarah, though, right? I can't wait to read Amanda's book. I pre-ordered it the day it was available for pre-order. I just got my email of when it's coming. And I can't wait to read it. Look, I'm like a real interviewer, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I'm like Jimmy Fallon. I'm holding up the book to the camera. You're holding up the book? But I will talk all about that later. The other thing I want to tell you is this is the season four finale, Sarah. That's why we wanted to have you on, because you're so hilarious. And also, we're booking through this thing, guys. Season four, bam, done.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I mean, this is like halfway through the show. I know. We're trying to stall now, Sarah, because we don't want it to be over. Right? I mean, should we start cooperating? I got great ideas on how we can stall, guys. Stall. What are your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:15:40 He wants to watch a different world. Dude, I think that would be a great – We just do like an intermission and do... We can do the pilot. Just the pilot? I've never... I don't want to upset you, so just calm down before you... Hold on one second, motherfucker. Don't get me mad right now, goddammit.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I know. I need you to calm down. By the way, why is your kid pissing in front of my house? Okay, I get this picture. I don't know if it was from the security camera or what. No, it was from... Donald guarding but it's Donald guarding like a bouncer his son pissing on the front of my house. I'm like, bro. It's a pandemic, Zach.
Starting point is 00:16:12 How many bouncer's do I have? Here's what happened. Speaking of Zach's mom, we were at Zach's house yesterday with his family. His niece just graduated from high school. It was a wonderful affair. I got super drunk which i don't do anymore it's and i i didn't know you got super drunk you seem to hold it together
Starting point is 00:16:31 and i had a few edibles oh it was the edibles yeah and uh i don't do that anymore either usually and i was this is all gonna add up to your son peeing in my house. Yes, this is the story. I was plastered. We leave, right? And we get outside and Rocco goes, I got to pee, Dad. Why didn't you ring the doorbell? Because you guys were all downstairs. And Casey says to me, they have to come all the way back up here. Rocco, just pee in the bush.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And I was like, no, dude, don't pee in the bush. Right? And she's like, no, just let him pee in the bush. It'll be all right. She's like, how do you think he goes to the bathroom when he's at basketball camp? He pees in the bush. And I was like, no, dude, don't pee in the bush. Right. And she's like, no, just let him pee in the bush. It'll be all right. She's like, how do you think he goes to the bathroom when he's at basketball camp? He pees in the bush. And I was like, oh my God, he's peeing in the bush at basketball camp. And he was like, yeah, dad, I pee in a bush at basketball camp. And I was like, all right, this is what you do. Go pee in the bush. And so he goes to pee and I'm holding, I'm guarding him. And his mother decides to take a picture and send it to you just so you know that we peed in the bush. I might have to post that picture. Can you ask Casey if I'm allowed to post it?
Starting point is 00:17:30 You are totally allowed to post that picture. It's pretty funny. Donald looks like he's like, it looks like it's some famous musician and Donald looks like the bodyguard who's protecting the star, peeing in the bushes. You know what it looks like? It looks like baby, what's the one, the Adam Sandler movie where the kid's pissing on the door?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Big Daddy. Big Daddy. That's what it reminded me of. You can't. It's an important life skill. You cannot get too precious about that kind of stuff. Do you think your kid's peeing in my pool, though? Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yes or no? I think they peed in the hot tub, too. Oh, no. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could
Starting point is 00:18:40 feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers.
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Starting point is 00:20:08 This past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people, like actress and director Cheryl Hines. They were looking for an unknown actress to play Larry David's wife. I said, well, how old is that guy? Isn't he old? And author David Sedaris. You know, like when you meet somebody and they'll say, well, I want to be a writer or I want to be an artist. And I say, well, is it all you care about? Because if it's not, it's going to be pretty hard for you if you're not on fire. It's like opening the door of an oven and it's like, wow, you know, you take a step back. It's all they think about. It's all they talk about. It's all they care about. They don't have relationships. They're not good friends for
Starting point is 00:21:00 other people. This is just what they're focused on. Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Really? We were all in the hot tub. How do you know? And we were all, everybody was splashing their face. You know, my assistant, Mark, Mark had his kids, two kids, adorable kids over swimming in the pool.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And Josh Radin comes over and the kids are like, Mr. Josh, Mr. Josh, come swimming. And he goes, I'm not coming in that pool. You guys peed in there. And they go, not in the hot tub. Meaning like, meaning like in the real pool. yeah, they drenched it. I am almost positive my kids peed in your pool. Really? It's a saltwater pool. I don't know if that cleans urine. Joelle, can you Google that?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Chlorine. I mean, the ocean does. Chlorine, I can picture attacking the urine. I don't know. If you have a saltwater pool, if it kills child urine, Joelle. Well, it's all salty. How about that? Oh my God. I feel like when we were
Starting point is 00:22:14 kids, they would have those things in the pool, like the chemicals in the pool that would light up when someone peed. That's bullshit. No one ever really had that. Everyone just threatened to have that. It didn't happen to anybody? That never happened. That was a threat, so we wouldn't do it. All right, should we get into the show?
Starting point is 00:22:29 Wait, hold on. Joelle has the answer. Salt water may kill some, but does not kill all. Mouth and... That doesn't answer the question. Anyway, how about this, y'all? Five, six, seven, eight. Stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love to hate.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I said here's our stories that you all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. I can't believe I got in before the countdown. Yeah, you're special. You know what it is? We missed you. We missed you and we decided to let you in early.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I haven't gotten to countdown yet. That's next. I have something to look forward to. You can count us out. You know what? You can count us in. You can count us out. Yes. We also have a new song for when we have a guest.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And I've written a new song that Donald won't lay down. No, dude, I will lay it down. I just need you to freaking, you got to get somebody dope to lay the track so I can sing over it. Okay, here you go. Salt is not a disinfectant or sanitizer. Salt does not kill bacteria, inactivate viruses, or break down undesirable organic material in pool water. Well, your kids put some fucking undesirable organic material in my pool water. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Are you kidding me? My daughter threw up in the pool. She did? Yeah. Why? Oh, no. No, there was no pool. Remember that in Caddyshack?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Doody! It's really a candy bar. And he eats it. He does. And everybody cringes. All right, let's talk about the show Scrubs, guys. We open with JD alone in an empty apartment with a single chair. Was that a real tear?
Starting point is 00:24:22 And then the end of the show answered the question. First of all, I am no Denzel Washington. I cannot squeeze out a beautiful slow tear going down my cheek. Not that thick. You just put a little Josh Radin on your iPod. No, when it's like that, I'm sure that was... Remember you guys used to make me so much fun of me in my playlist?
Starting point is 00:24:37 I know. That's what Sarah used to listen to. Josh Radin to cry. I'm sure that was a strategically placed tear. I thought it was Sarah McLaughlin. I will remember you. Oh, she was definitely peppered in there. Definitely. Will you remember me?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Don't love your life. I felt bad for JD. He's so lonesome. He's got no Elliot in his life. He's got Turk leaving him for Judy and making babies. And, you know, he's sitting there alone in his life. He's got Turk leaving them for Judy and making babies. And, you know, he's sitting there alone on his boxes with a dead dog and a tear on his face. But he could have let Turk in with a giant pizza.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And he did not. Turk hurt his feelings. Well, you know, I will say this. I will say this. When this episode started off, all I could think about was, holy cow, one, this is the season finale. And then two, so many cool things happen in the next season. You know what I mean? Season five is a good one.
Starting point is 00:25:37 So many cool things happen in the next season. And season four was a really good season as well. I wasn't very nostalgic about it, but I was like, I wonder what this episode, as soon as it started, I was like, I wonder what this episode has in store. Because as you know, I don't remember any of this. So I'm like, how do we close this season out? And there are some iconic moments in this episode. One, you and I lying down on the basketball court together that's a meme that go that's everywhere i see that meme a lot yeah everywhere you're such a
Starting point is 00:26:13 good friend that you lie down next to me so people just think we're chilling yeah even though i've knocked myself out trying to do a hook shot dude you're a, your elaborate plan to make sure that the last five people in the hospital think you're a good basketball, whatever it is, think you're a good basketball player, goes awry and you get knocked out from this hook shot of yours. That was funny, though. That basketball to the head was funny. Oh, it was funny.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And when you're like, damn, we just lost the best player out here. And then we're in the spread. And then Donald, after he goes down, you're like damn we just lost the best player out here and then we're in the spread and then donald after he goes down you're like i got him i got this guy i got this guy and judy's uh carl is a part of the plan she's gonna once i make my my elaborate hook shot she's gonna say they need me and then and then and then it goes bad and so that's one right now why before you go on why does an ambulance pull up? We're at the emergency entrance of a hospital. Because we're in the parking lot of the hospital.
Starting point is 00:27:10 We're playing basketball at the emergency entrance. No, but the implication was that the ambulance pulled up for me. No, no, no, no, no. I thought that for a second. I think it was just to reinforce the point that, like, we're lying in a fucking parking lot right in front of the hospital. Oh, I thought it was they called an ambulance for me. And I'm like, we're fucking at the fucking entrance. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:28 No, because you're just lying there chilling because Donald's beside you. Victor Nelly is a very good director, but he added some style to this that I didn't necessarily like. There was a lot of zooms all over the place. He clearly said to Bill, hey, what if I zoomed all over the place every fucking two seconds? You're not a big fan of the zooming, huh? I don't mind a zoom if it's well-timed or if it fits the piece. I didn't – I thought that putting zooms all over a whole episode as though it's a part of our regular photographic lexicon felt odd to me. He also did that thing later in the episode where the tiles of the bathroom all come apart.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's just not part of like, I mean, it's fine to explore. It's season four. Let's try some new things. To me, they just stood out as not the way the show is told. So two things we've learned. Zach is not a big fan of the zoom in. I don't like random zooms for comedy. They don't usually make it up.
Starting point is 00:28:24 What about for dramas? What about for sci-fi movies? There are a lot of people out there that love the zoom in i don't like random zooms for comedy they don't usually what about for dramas what about for sci-fi movies there are a lot of people out there that love the zoom in yeah i think you can make a zoom work of course um but i just think uh in this they felt um they pulled me out a little bit because i'm like that's not that's not the way we shoot the show doesn't feel like the show yeah zach only likes a zoom for the button, like a button to one of his comments, as an alternate for a sip take. Right, if it's like a bow. Like a zoom, zoom, zoom.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Oh, I like the zoom, zoom, zoom. I like the zoom, zoom, zoom. You like the zoom, zoom, zoom. There's zooms I like. I'll have to think of where I like zooms. Okay, so that's the first one. The second one, I'm not a big zoomer. I'm not a big zoomer myself as a filmmaker. I don't know if there's any Zooms in any of my movies, but go ahead.
Starting point is 00:29:08 The second one, Hooch is fucking crazy. Hooch is crazy at the end when we finally realize, no, no, no, no, no, no. This isn't a game anymore. Hooch is fucking crazy, dude. I'm going to cut off his finger. Right. Right. And he beats the shit out of someone in the elevator with a sneaker.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Someone who had nothing to do with anything. Rocco was watching the show. He was like, did he kill him? Hold on, time out. He goes, time out. Did he just kill him? He literally killed that guy. I'm like, no, buddy.
Starting point is 00:29:36 No, no, no, no, no. All right, well, let's shout out to Phil Lewis because he's always so hilarious. And this is the episode. Now, first of all, I never heard if this is a thing or who came up with this, but putting bullion cubes in the shower head. That would suck. That would suck. That's a diabolical genius that whoever came up with that is a diabolical genius.
Starting point is 00:29:54 We got up on the counter with popcorn to watch him come out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he didn't know it was us. He directed a bunch, right? No, he never directed any of these. He's become a big TV director since, but he had never directed Scrubs. Maybe he directed some of the
Starting point is 00:30:11 13 and the 2.0. No, he never directed any of... He never directed any Scrubs. He directed a bunch of Undateable, because he directs a lot of... He directs a lot of multicam stuff, so I know that he directed Undateable a bunch. All right, well, let's move on.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Kelso rips a fart. Now, we don't do too many fart jokes on Scrubs, but all of a sudden, Kelso's ripping ass in the lobby. It's just funny. Speaking of my professional peer. Hi, Rocco. Hi, Rocco. I got you. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Tell them what happened yesterday when we left and what did you do in front of Uncle Zach's house. Rocco, did you pee on my house? I saw a picture of you peeing on my house. I was joking. You were joking when you peed on his house? You weren't joking? Did you really pee? Great answer.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I peed in the bushes. Okay. I think some splattered on my wall, but it's okay. Your dad will clean it up. What do you say to that? Okay. That's right. What's up?
Starting point is 00:31:19 You okay? Yeah. I love you. Okay. All right. So watching Kelso fart reminded me. Did you guys ever fart on the show by accident? No.
Starting point is 00:31:29 If I farted, it was on purpose. I know, Sarah, but I'm very excited to hear your story. Well, it just reminded me of the one time that I did, and Zach and I were kind of like, we were doing like a kissing scene, and we're standing there like over in the corner. And they're about to say, and they say, rolling. And I may or may not have farted.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And I was just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say anything. Don't say anything. And, of course, Zach was, you know, just made the biggest deal anyone could possibly make over somebody farting. And, like, I think made a song. There was some clapping you involved in it. And there was a possibly make over somebody farting. And like, I think made a song. There was some clapping you involved in it. It was a lot of talk about farting. And then of course that went on the gag reel.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And so we'd always have these long gag reels that would then play at the wrap party. So then it came time for the wrap party. And then we all had to relive me farting on set by accident. Right at the beginning, right after they said rolling. Now, Sarah, do you recall if it was a an audio fart or was an sbd it was audio oh yeah i heard it yeah all i know is probably so did everyone do you have sbds in canada do you know what that is silent but deadly yes i don't know if they have that in Canada because they're so polite up there.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I know. Well, they're very adorable. They're very polite farts. They're very polite. It said silent but adorable up there. Yeah, I mean, it was just really, it's just for some reason when I heard Ken Jenkins fart, I just had this wave of like the rap party and the gag reel. And then I was just farting at the gag reel,
Starting point is 00:33:06 which isn't just like the few people that were on set that may have heard it. Then it was like all of the network execs and people's spouses and friends and family that were also coming to celebrate the end of the season. So that was fun. That's funny. Everyone loves an accidental fart. All right, listen, let's talk about how we flashback and the time Donald comes into,
Starting point is 00:33:24 Turk comes into our dorm room and i'll go i go i'm an eighth level ogre magi with invisibility and this is randall the dragon i call myself chris one dude do you know who chris one is no no krs one chris one that's a that's a that was an inside or thing that not a lot of people would, I thought a lot of people would pick up on it, but not a lot of people did. KRS-One is Chris One. One of the dopest MCs in the history of hip hop.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I didn't get that. Did he have a high top date? You put that in there. No, he didn't, but he wrote some of the dopest songs I've ever heard in my life. Can I ask you as a D&D guy, is 8th level ogre magi with invisibility a real thing? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, you can't have invisibility and be an ogre. Yeah, you can't. An ogre? Not an ogre. An ogre is a tank. He's not an ogre. He's not an ogre. He's an ogre magi.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So there's two different classes put together. Is this 3E? Isn't ogre a race and magi as a class yeah it's but but ogres come with different with different attributes than humans do so if you're a magi you're an ogre who is also a wizard so you could totally have invisibility spells okay fine okay well uh there you go. It made me laugh. No! I don't do it. Oh, you should have seen Donald with my nephew talking about, they went like a Marvel wormhole.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Me, your nephew, and Carrie Brothers for like 15 minutes. Yeah, they went into us. They went into like, Joel, you went right there with them. It was like they were speaking Latin. Because of everything that's happening in Loki. You know what I mean? We can't get on it right now, Donald, but yes. It's so easy to...
Starting point is 00:35:09 Like now Marvel's becoming just a little bit predictable. Like I know what's coming next because of what's happening. Only because you know the full lineup of films coming. Well, no, but I know what the Thunderbolts is. You know what I mean? And I know what the freaking Secret Wars is. And when they started talking about these freaking timelines and all of that stuff, and this
Starting point is 00:35:28 war that happened to get the timelines back. Sarah, do you want to go talk about musicals with me? Immediately! Immediately, all I could think of was, oh shit, they're going to do the fucking Secret Wars. They're going to do Secret Wars. Alright, well now we're back. Sarah, what did you think of Jake?
Starting point is 00:35:43 He seems like, well, both the actor was really good, Josh Randall Sarah, what did you think of Jake? He seems like both the actor was really good, Josh Randall, but what did you think of him as your love interest? Well, he was great. I was trying to, I had obviously, because you guys are in the rewatch one, I mean, it's like for me, I'm jumping out on these random episodes. I haven't seen what happens before and what happens after.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And I'm thinking like, I can't remember how long that storyline was, but I feel like it was a chunk. Well, you just you just it was like i think he did like three episodes or something you just recently decided to have uh sex with him okay and you revealed that your favorite way is to be on top with the lights off yelling don't look at me so elliot so um no but i think he's doing a good job he's very likable but we all of a sudden so Elliot so Elliot I think he's doing a good job he's very likable all of a sudden there's this new plot point that he's controlling
Starting point is 00:36:30 you and you do whatever he says and Carla is making her very pissed that you just do whatever he tells you to do yes one of my favorite lines of the entire episode is Jake is it I know your name I'm being condescending. It's Jake, right?
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's just shy of nobody cares. Sean. JD has a special place of hate for all of your lovers after him, understandably. He's jealous because we know that we're going to get back together and walk off into the sunset together and make babies. Oh, my God. My niece was watching the finale and I watched a piece of it with her and it was so, that whole like ending montage
Starting point is 00:37:17 and then they, like of the two, like, you know, where you picture us together, whatever. And then they had all these clips of like just that last episode of just shooting it. Like, us all being wrapped out and being our last take. And I was in love with Clint. Yeah. We're going to get there.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Anyways, I know we're not doing the rewatch of that episode. But, yes, we do end up together. And just seeing that was, like, I just brought up all this, just the memories of that last day. I'm like, it was so wild. All right, well, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to see if Sarah farted in any of the other scenes.
Starting point is 00:37:52 We will be right back after these words. If you've been following the news, you know that from healthcare access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. Follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers. Probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey with so many
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Starting point is 00:39:57 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people like actress and director Cheryl Hines. They were looking for an unknown actress to play Larry David's wife. I said, well, how old is that guy? Isn't he old? And author David Sedaris. You know, like when you meet somebody and they'll say, well, I want to be a writer or I want to be an artist. And I say, well, is it all you care about? Because if it's not, it's going to be pretty hard for you if you're not on fire. It's like opening the door of an oven and it's like, wow, you know, you take a step back. It you're not on fire. It's like opening the door of an oven, and it's like, wow.
Starting point is 00:40:46 You know, you take a step back. It's all they think about. It's all they talk about. It's all they care about. They don't have relationships. They're not good friends for other people. This is just what they're laser-focused on. Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing
Starting point is 00:41:02 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scratch, rewatch, show us up and down. And we're back. We are back. Hey, listen. What you trying to get into? What they're showing?
Starting point is 00:41:22 What you trying to do? Listen, this is what I'm trying to get into. What are you trying to get into? We were talking about Bob Kelso farting. But we forgot to talk about what he says after he farts. And that he likes Korean call girls. Yes. And he doesn't care who knows. No, he said, well, I thought he said something about he likes free donuts and Asian prostitutes. No, he says Korean call girls.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Those are the exact words he says. He doesn't say Asian prostitutes. Okay, well, he has a specific type. I think one was the feeding in and one was his response. Like maybe Neil said the first one. Kelso responded with the second. But he doesn't care. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:42:02 He's married to a woman named Enid. Yeah, well, he's saying, look, I'm old, Cox. I don't care what you say. I don't care what you think. I'll do whatever I want. I'm going to fart. I'm going to tell everyone I like Asian prostitutes. I forgot one other thing that came in with this episode.
Starting point is 00:42:19 What? A huge thing that we didn't talk about. Go ahead. SCB. Yeah, Super Chocolate Bear. First time it's ever said. Dude, this is an iconic episode when you really think about all of the things that hit the freaking internet and stayed on the internet. SCB stuck.
Starting point is 00:42:40 It stuck. That's something that stayed. People come up to me still and call me Super Chocolate Bear. Yeah, you are. And when JD says it to you and you're like, I love it. He's like, I knew you would. I had that locked and loaded. So now the janitor is walking around trying to get JD to eat this pie.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Right. And it's got laxatives in it. And JD's put two and two together. And also the Todd has eat this pie. Right, and it's got laxatives in it. And JD's put two and two together. And also, the Todd has eaten this pie. And he says the funniest line of the whole episode. Doozy of a twosie. Out of my way, I got a doozy of a twosie.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Make it stop five. First of all, the janitor fucked him up so badly that he's in the ICUu on fluids yeah on an iv because you and the janitor only had one bite on the roof and i love that the janitor would like i'm like he's like i'll take it just to get you down jd but then you guys are like on the toilet after a bite and like the todd he probably had like a couple slices well he puts the there's one slice.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah, you see him. Did you notice at the end, we're jumping ahead, but when I have explosive diarrhea next to the janitor that you see my toes point? I did not see that, but you did. Oh, it cracked me up. Like you just see me in the janitor's legs. And then all of a sudden something, you know, obviously I don't hear anything, but you see me
Starting point is 00:44:05 point my toes and lift them off the ground. What's up with the boys trying to get Rowdy to choose between the two of them? And that's how they're going to get him to... First of all, who's this joke for? I don't know, dude. Is it for Carla? Because who's laughing? We're doing it for us. What is wrong with us? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I didn't get it. I was like. I'm a little rowdy. If you come to me, I'll scratch your special regions. I feel like it was, like, set up and you're waiting for Carl to come in? Or is she, like, a coincidence that she comes in? It's got to be a coincidence that she comes in because we're doing the joke before she walks in. Yeah. And then she walks in yeah
Starting point is 00:44:45 elliot you um sarah you um explode a bloody nose onto your job interviewer that was funny it's very very on brand so i used to obviously get very serious nosebleeds as a child um to the point where they would last like 45 minutes and i I remember grade seven graduation, true story. We all go to, you know, rehearse and then we're going to go get ready at Jen Murray's house and then come back and do our graduation. So that morning I'm putting sunscreen on just very gently because I've been having these like, I starts a 45 minute nosebleed. So I go to rehearsal. My mom picks me up. We go to the ER. They burn the outside of my nostrils as well as the inside. So that looks great in the pictures. And then my mom has brought me an outfit because I'm not going to have time to go get changed at
Starting point is 00:45:33 my friend's house before grad. And it's this like crocheted sweater and this skirt. This is not what I intended on wearing to grad. So these, um, these nosebleeds were yeah quite a thing they started i think when i was trying out for the basketball team which i didn't make in grade five six seven eight or nine um but the ball was coming towards me and it was tryouts and i was gonna catch it and i was like this is it it's my moment it's all happening it's coming together someone's passing me the ball and it kind of went like right through my hands into my face and triggered this like yeah very long run of do you think you might have a deviated septum because of this i do have a deviated septum um which i found out about later when i was working on a show and walked into a
Starting point is 00:46:18 wall and they had to x-ray my nose but that's another story for a different a different rewatch sarah do you realize you're wearing a rhinestone shirt in this episode? It was sparkling, and I was like, that doesn't really feel like something Elliot would wear, but you're wearing like a Karen rhinestone shirt. Yes. I noticed that as well. It was just shy of saying
Starting point is 00:46:38 live, love, whatever. Live, love, love? Yeah. Live, love, love. And I had on my true religion jeans yeah true religion religion in the house oh they were such a i love those jeans yeah and like there was definitely a bedazzled belt but you approved that you approved all your wardrobe you went in there and were like give me the rhinestones do you have a problem with something that i'm just saying i know you wouldn't have approved you wouldn't approve the uh i know there's a lot of uh yeah the old uh like the short sleever with the long sleever underneath which i loved and rocked in my everyday world there are another two things that i noticed
Starting point is 00:47:17 about this episode that i thought were you know this this these were very on brand. John C. McGinley has a freaking monologue the size of, that shit had to be like three pages, man. Where he's talking about his wife and how she, you know what I mean? Like how her happiness and everything like that. Dude, that monologue was forever. And he rattles through it. And they cut away from it a couple of times times meaning like maybe he didn't get it all in one but you know he'd strive to get it in one but it was
Starting point is 00:47:50 gigantic and he freaking masterfully does it that's one thing another thing that I was like holy shit about was Sam Lloyd dude we don't talk about him enough and how fucking amazing he is, how amazing he was at physical comedy.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yeah, all his beats in this are all physical comedy, and they're so funny. Oh, my goodness gracious. The time, the typewriter. Everything. The file cabinet. He hits that file cabinet twice in two different ways, and they're both the most solid hits.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I mean, it's like WWE wrestling. Masterful, man. We don't talk about that enough. Just like, you know, because he's in a lot of episodes. And I don't know, maybe it's because we miss him or I don't know what it is. But I just want to say, man, we don't do him enough justice in saying how funny he is. Because he was so, so, so funny, man. The character is not really a sane person.
Starting point is 00:48:45 He's trying to do calculations on a typewriter. Yeah, he's not necessarily the smartest character. And then Jordan takes his office, and did you notice that he set up, they kind of grazed by it, but he set up his office in the cafeteria. Yeah. I wonder if that must have been a longer beat
Starting point is 00:49:04 that they cut out or something because he's got his whole desk set up at the cafeteria. I wonder if that must have been a longer beat that they cut out or something because he's got his whole desk set up at the cafeteria. So funny, man. Oh, he's amazing and always flop sweating and so good. So now I take on Hooch because I'm mad at Turk.
Starting point is 00:49:18 So I try to take on Hooch as my new best friend. Yeah. Chocolate bear number two, you call him. Yes. And then you come over and I go, now, come on, don't be obvious. And I go, that seat's taken, ass face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Hello, chocolate bear number two. Number two. And then he's riding on the back of the scooter with you and everything. Yeah. And he's got, he already has a personalized helmet that says Zooch on it.
Starting point is 00:49:43 He's already got a helmet. And he, and, he already has a personalized helmet that says. And he, and I, I say that it's your fault of the billion cubes. And he goes, if it happens again, I'm going to take off one of your fingers. That'll be my funny little prank.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Which is crazy. Which is legit crazy. He almost killed someone with a sneaker. Legit crazy. And then, so let's talk about Elliot and the new job. Yeah. I forgot that she leaves the hospital. I know.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I forgot too. Yeah. Remember she, season five, she starts in a different hospital. I think Sarah, you weren't even shooting with us for like the first couple episodes. Yeah. I was like on a different, a different campus. I feel like is that,
Starting point is 00:50:27 I don't remember if that's when I start. There was one season where I stopped wearing scrubs and I was like, yeah, this sounds kind of fun. Let's wear some, it's been five seasons or whatever. How many seasons of just wear some fancy outfits. Was this it?
Starting point is 00:50:39 This is it. Yeah. Wealthy hospital at the wardrobe fitting. And I was so pumped and I was wearing all these cute dresses with this little lab coat and these crazy high heels. And I was like, oh, this is awesome. And then we were like four days in, and I was like, why did I do this? Why didn't I stay in scrubs?
Starting point is 00:50:57 Like, you're in scrubs, jammies, and sneakers every day, and then I'm like in, you know, high heels marching down the hallway. But it was good though. I thought it was smart of them in season five to show the difference between a hospital that has more money
Starting point is 00:51:10 and this hospital which is supposed to be a city hospital without a lot of money. That's coming to you, season five. Even with the nose, spitting the nosebleed
Starting point is 00:51:20 blood everywhere. That shit was hilarious though, man. Still got it. Yeah, you must have had a really good interview because you splattered blood all over his face. And still got the job. Dude, the shit starts leaking too. It's not like it
Starting point is 00:51:32 just, like usually when you see nose bleeds in shows, it's like it stays there, but this thing starts dripping down your freaking lips. They must have just done like an eyedropper of blood and then ran off camera because it was like slowly coming down. And then Just done like an eyedropper of blood and then ran off camera because it was like slowly coming down. Slowly coming down.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Oh, my God. And then I'm alone. We reveal that it's not a tear. It's, in fact, my leaky ceiling. And big-ass stunt of the bathtub falling through into my apartment. That shit was hilarious. I think I'm going to have a new beautiful neighbor to flirt with. And then her husband jumps down. Her boyfriend or husband.
Starting point is 00:52:07 But not only does he jump down, he's superhero jumps down too. Yeah. Like he lands and it's real heroic. And he's like, yo, you're looking at my girl? Yeah. I would have been like, yeah, motherfucking y'all just fell through the roof. Yeah, you ruined my apartment. I just got this place. and she was kind of flirting
Starting point is 00:52:26 for a second she's like sorry right like come on yeah you just fell through the ceiling calm down now what were they doing that she's in the tub and he's not in the tub but he still has on a freaking towel he just got out of the tub he got out of the tub or he was shaving? I don't know. All I know is she's in the tub. The tub drops filled with water. And then he comes. He jumps down. He doesn't fall through. He jumps down and he's got on a towel.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Right. To cock a lock. We couldn't show his penis, Donald. I understand that, Zach. But what the hell are they doing upstairs? It would have been a much better finale if he jumped down with his dong flopping they would have let that they would have totally stayed in the show
Starting point is 00:53:11 but not marijuana no dude let me ask you a question do they show dong on Firefly Lane no no dong do they show dong on Firefly Lane? Yeah, Sarah, is there dong? No dong.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Do they show booty crack? A tiny bit. Coinslot? Not mine. Not yours. Nope. They show, what do they show? I think it's one of those things where like, you know, yeah, when you go, when we were doing Scrubs, like you're in bra and underwear a lot, but there's obviously like that kind of framework around network television where there's only a certain point you can go.
Starting point is 00:53:51 And then, yeah, as soon as you go to cable, there's like, you know, there's, it's a conversation. Did they come to you and say how, how naughty are you willing to be? It wasn't so much like that. It was, it was pretty collaborative. Like as different scenes came up, it was kind of organic like that it was it was pretty collaborative like as different scenes came up it was kind of organic the way it would work and i got a lot of say in terms of the you know if we're in underwear what said underwear were or could bring my own in and also i noticed your character has jungle fever on that show also like big time she is a interracial. I don't know if we can use that term anymore, Joelle, can we?
Starting point is 00:54:26 Donald can. I can. Donald can. Just checking. Spike Lee made the movie. He sure did. Okay, I'm just double checking. I don't want to get Donald in trouble
Starting point is 00:54:37 for saying John. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Y'all can't even sing that song, huh? We're in love. I can bop my head while you sing. So, Sarah, they come to you and they're like, hey, you have a sex scene coming up. Will you show areola or no areola? How does it work?
Starting point is 00:54:58 So we have a scene coming up. a scene coming up and and yeah, when you read it you can kind of usually get a fairly good idea you know, of what it's gonna of what it's gonna be, but there was really there was nothing that was you know, that we did that was out of my comfort zone
Starting point is 00:55:18 other than of course, like, it's Canada and it's winter and it's freezing and the one day that we have snow on the ground is the day that I'm answering the door naked so it was like you know there's there's snow everywhere and I'm in like uh obviously they didn't show everything but I was in very you know I was in undies and like stickers and answering the door where it's less than zero degrees and multiple takes of that and then the other one was the pool where there was a lot of
Starting point is 00:55:44 discussion over that scene you know like how is that going to work where you kind of drop off your clothes and then you dive into the pool so how are we going to get that shot where we get and make the story make sense to get you into the water and then i was maybe you should up the sex a bit because donald's wife um and and our our soon-to-be guests are big fans of Bridgerton. As am I. I burned for you. I burned. I love Bridgerton.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I haven't seen it, but I'm told it's very steamy. So maybe Firefly Lane. He's not coming back for season two, though. I know, but there'll be somebody else with abs. I'm sure there will be. You're absolutely right. I'm just saying, Sarah, you might want to tell the showrunner to take it up to Bridgerton-level sex on Firefly Lane.
Starting point is 00:56:30 We can ask one of your favorite viewers, Amanda, who's going to join us in a second. She really, really, really loves Firefly Lane. Don't you, Clutes? Yeah, she says she does. I can tell you. Hi, Clutes. All right, she's going to join us in a second. We will be right back to have Amanda Clutes
Starting point is 00:56:46 She's going to talk about how much she loves Sarah's show Snore and then we're going to talk about Our new book Live Your Life we'll be right back If you've been following The news you know that from Healthcare access to safe schools LGBTQ plus
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Starting point is 01:00:05 wherever you get your podcasts. Alright, we're back. I don't have a splitter. That's fine, I can hear you. Oh, he doesn't have a splitter. I have a splitter. The joke is that Sarah can barely ever manage to even get on the Zoom call.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I'm with you, Sarah. I'm with you. Thank you. Right there. Thank you, Amanda. I don't believe it. I don't believe it, Amanda. Guys, I can't even sign an email that people ask me to sign over email.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I have to send it to my assistant to sign for me. Look at that. That's how bad I am. You got an assistant now and everything. Oh, she's fancy. She is so fancy. For those of you who don't know who our guest is, she hosts a very,
Starting point is 01:00:50 very popular talk show called The Talk. Not only does she do that, she also has a wonderful book that she just put out herself. I'm going to hold it up like a real talk show host does. You know, like on the talk shows when they hold up the book?
Starting point is 01:01:06 The name of the book is – go ahead. If you're listening, you can't see what a good job I am of being a talk show host. This is what would happen on the talk, right, Amanda? We would hold up the book and go, we're so happy to have Amanda Kloots here. Her new book is Live Your Life. She wrote it with her sister, Anna Kloots, and it's flying off the shelves. Right? Does that sound like I could be on the talk?
Starting point is 01:01:25 It was, yes. That was very good. I'm auditioning to do a guest spot on the talk. I have told them to get you in to be a guest. I know Jerry O'Connell is doing guest spots on the talk. I feel like Donald and I should steal that position from Jerry O'Connell. I have suggested- From Jerry O'Connell?
Starting point is 01:01:36 Jerry is a king of guest hosting, man. Yes, he's very funny, but I feel like you and I could come on the talk and really crush it. You would. Jerry also has a splitter on hand always. and I could come on the talk and really crush it. You would. Jerry also has a splitter on hand always. Like, you need a splitter. That's called a callback joke, Amanda, for those of you keeping track. Wait, so wait, let's talk about Fireflame. One more thing on Fireflame.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Amanda is your biggest fan. She would text me like, are you watching Sarah's show? It is amazing. She loves it. Yes. The answer was no. The answer was no. Well, I watched a couple episodes, and when there was no coin slot, I ducked out.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Just so you know, Sarah, I was like, you need to watch it. You have to support your friend. She's amazing. Thank you, Amanda. And he was like, I know. And I'm like, no, you don't understand. She's incredible in this show. I am a huge fan. And then I would DM her, and don't understand. She's incredible in this show. I am a huge fan.
Starting point is 01:02:26 And then I would DM her and I'd be like, you're amazing. Yeah. Amanda's the reason you got season two because she's broadcasting it out all over the place. Thank you, Amanda. My wife loves Firefly Lane. And the one thing she says after watching every episode is, Sarah is so fucking good on this show. Sarah snaps. She's so good on this show.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Donald, after I was DMing Sarah, I would DM Casey, and I'd be like, Casey, are you watching Sarah on Firefly? I'm not kidding you. And she would be like, girl, you know I'm watching Firefly. I know, and I'm like, I know. And then I was like, has she always been this amazing? This is amazing. Yeah, she has.
Starting point is 01:03:07 She has. That's what you did say. Zach did say no. She's always been amazing. Well, but the world is finally seeing all her different levels. She was known on our show for being hilarious, but now on Firefly she's playing a lot of dramatic stuff too. Plus she got jungle fever on the show.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I can. And you will. All right, now listen. Bridgerton is another thing that both Amanda and your wife love. They DM about that and talk about what's his name's abs. No, they don't talk about his abs. No, we don't talk about his abs.
Starting point is 01:03:35 What do they talk about? Does he show peen? He shows coin slot at the last episode. Oh, he shows coin slot. No, full bum. He shows full bum. Amanda was like, it's so steamy, you should watch it. And I go, I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to wait for the steamy scene. She's like, okay, episode six, 30 Minutes In.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Is that right, episode six? Episode six. Yeah, episode six. It all goes down. So I told her once, I was like, I'm just going to fast forward to episode six and see what everybody's talking about. I never did. Well, maybe Zach and Donald, Bridgerton could be your next, like when you want to slide in some other rewatch for your podcast to stretch out.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I am not going to watch Bridgerton. I think you should do a Bridgerton I love you Shonda Rhimes but I ain't watching that. By the way, I think Casey and Amanda should do a Bridgerton rewatch podcast. That would be hilarious. You know what, Zach? We should go on vacation and Casey and Amanda should do
Starting point is 01:04:24 a Bridgerton rewatch. Take over the podcast? Chewbacca, do you watch that? Bridgerton? Hell yeah. Daniel, do you watch Bridgerton? No, I don't watch Bridgerton. I'm late.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Did you watch episode six? I hear that's where it goes down. All of the episodes, it was like Game of Thrones level of like, oh my, we're just really going for it. Oh yeah. Word. There's no fighting. It's all sex. See, that's where you lose me.
Starting point is 01:04:52 You lose me there. I got to see some like skulls bashed in and then sex. And then it works for me. Get that bloodlust going. I haven't watched Outlander, but I hear that's very steamy too. Oh yes, apparently it is. I haven't either. Uncomfortably from my mom, she was like, this Outlander is really hot and heavy.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Outlander is wild. All right. Listen. Let's segue into something on the total opposite side of the spectrum. We all know from listening to the show what happened to Amanda and our friend Nick. And I have to say something. I honestly thought Amanda, and I've told you this, I'm going to say it very tactfully because I'm a talk show host on this show today.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I did not think this was going to be as good as it is. That was very tactful. Yes. Jerry O'Connell did, though. He knew. He knew. No, listen, when your friend writes a book, and of course it's about something so personal,
Starting point is 01:05:43 I knew I was going to read it and love it because I love Amanda and I love Nick more than anything. I'm not just saying this, listeners, because this affected our lives so much and affected the person next to me more than anything, but I could not put this book down. Amanda, you did such an incredible job telling this story, and it isn't just the sad parts of what happened. It jumps back and forth between the love story of you and Nick. And I guess my first question is like, how the hell did you do this? I know you had some help from your sister, Anna, who's a professional writer, but tell us the story of how this came about and how
Starting point is 01:06:21 it's so darn good. Well, it is a true 50-50 collab, guys. Like, Anna is an incredible writer, but she also lived with us during this whole entire time. And she was kind of like Nick and I's third wheel. Even like in our, throughout our relationship in New York, she was on part of our honeymoon with us. Like, Anna, and Nick loved Anna. He always was like, is Annie coming? Annie's coming? Oh, good, Annie's coming. So she just knew a lot about our life. And she's an incredible writer.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And she literally, we communicate telepathically. So she was the only person that I wanted to do this with. And HarperCollins suggested a ghostwriter. And Anna has nothing published of this nature. So they were a little hesitant, to say the least. But then she sent a sample of their writing. They emailed right back. And they were like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Yes, please do this with Amanda. You're so lucky because a ghostwriter, for those of you who don't know, is someone who sort of hides in the background and helps someone write a book who's never written a book. That would have been so impersonal. Whereas Anna, as you'll see when you read the book, was by Amanda's side. I mean, it's also just, there's so many beautiful things in this book. But one of the other themes that is so incredibly moving is the bond between you and your sister
Starting point is 01:07:36 and how she was by your side every single step of the way. Yeah. No, she was. I couldn't have gotten through this without her. I mean, you know, you saw it firsthand. But Anna and my brother Todd, you know, you saw it firsthand. But Anna and my brother Todd, you know, yeah. Anna was like Elvis' second mom when I was at the hospital every day, and I never knew how long I was able to stay at the hospital.
Starting point is 01:07:54 So she was always just kind of like literally second mom and took over and never asked for anything in return. She just, like, did it with, you know, a smile on her face. No, it was amazing, and we wrote it together. We really did. I mean, she was in return. She just like did it with, you know, a smile on her face. No, it was amazing. And we wrote it together. We really did. I mean, she was in Paris. I was here in LA. I would put Elvis to bed and I would start writing around 8 p.m. trying to keep my eyes open. But I, you know, we had such a deadline. You usually get like at least a year to write a book. They gave us five months. And so I was like at, you know, my computer every night at 8 p.m. And then I would
Starting point is 01:08:26 go to sleep and send her whatever I wrote. And then she would be waking up in Paris and she would say, sister, I'm on it. Let's all look through everything you just sent me. So it was kind of like everyone, you know, we were working on it 24-7, which is I think how we got it done in five months. Yeah. That's how they do visual effects sometimes on giant movies like when when the when la stops some foreign nation begins and so it's being worked on 24 7 i'm gonna i want to ask you original questions and have these guys ask you original questions but i'm gonna ask you a question i know you get asked a lot but um it's hard not to read this book and not want to ask you, and I want to ask you as someone who's your best friend, how the hell have you stayed so strong? This was the hardest thing that anyone could ever go through. And it happened pretty fast. And yet you never, of course, you had your horrible moments, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:09:25 But how the hell did you manage to stay so strong and also simultaneously raise a little baby during all of this? I think, you know, in writing everything down, it helps you kind of like look retrospectively and kind of figure out how you did it. But I think a couple of things. The first is the help of my family. I could not have done this. You know, my brother and sister came in and then my mom and dad came in and then Leslie came in. And so I literally had like a huge support system that allowed me to go be with Nick every day and fight for him and research and do everything that I did with Nick. The second is, you know, my faith in God and what
Starting point is 01:10:05 I believe. And I just feel like, you know, when you're going through something this hard, when you have this trauma faced, you know, every day and this horrible news every single day, just be able to give that burden to something else that is higher and bigger than you. Of course, you're going to always carry it on your shoulders and it will always be in your heart. But, like, just to be able to pray and ask for prayer and ask for that support, just, like, it gave the burden to something else bigger than me. So that was huge. And then, you know, I think I'm innately a fighter.
Starting point is 01:10:43 I'm innately somebody that I realized in writing this book. I actually got nervous about it. I was like, do I thrive under pressure? Like, am I somebody? It's something I asked my therapist. Like, do I, am I the best version of myself under, like, extreme amounts of pressure, which is something that I've tried to figure out and deal with? Because it's, like, worrisome, obviously, right? Like, what do you do when everything's fine? Are you okay? Or are you
Starting point is 01:11:10 like your best version when you have to like throw down and like live life on a moment? Well, I think you've always had a pretty extraordinary life. But I feel like I, you know, Donald gets a mosquito bite, and he goes to see like a surgeon and I have a bit of bad news and I get in the fetal position and get under the covers. And I'm reading this book and it's just incredible how you are able to persevere and fight every single day. Well, thanks. But I mean, you know, you would do the same thing if it was your person lying in the ICU and they couldn't speak for themselves and they couldn't do anything. I mean, you would do anything and everything you can. I mean, you would.
Starting point is 01:11:52 And, you know, I mean, you knew Nick as, you know, he would want me to. You know what I mean? He would want me to fight. He would want me to research. He would want me to be the best mom I could be for Elvis. Like, he would want me to move forward with my life. A lot of people, you know, asked me that about, you know, just living now. And I'm like, yes, I could live in grief every single, I cry every day still. Of course I do. And it's like, I cried myself to sleep last night. That's never
Starting point is 01:12:19 going to change. But, um, I know Nick would want me to move forward. You know what I mean? If he could have said anything on his deathbed, he would have said, don't you dare stop living your life. I want you to find love again. I want you to raise our son with joy and happiness. I want you to work. I want you to thrive. I want you to succeed. I mean, I would have said the same thing to him. So I know it's what he would have said to me. Yeah. You guys can feel free to chime in if you want to say anything. I don't want to monopolize the interview of our fancy guest. Well, I just want to say that I'm completely in awe of your strength. I followed you kind of just from the beginning of when it all started to happen. And we were, you know, jumping rope every day at three o'clock and singing, live your life. And my, um, nieces would jump with me
Starting point is 01:13:14 and it was truly an incredible, uh, thing to watch your strength. Um, thing to watch, your strength. There's nothing quite like it. And I don't know how you did it. And it was just incredible to see this rallying cry and how you brought together your family, your friends, your community, and then the world and all of these strangers. And, you know, this year was complicated and hard for people all in different ways. To see you right at the beginning of it take such a powerful, optimistic, hopeful, strong stance was just so inspiring. And I think you, you know, have changed a lot of, and affected just
Starting point is 01:14:07 a lot of people because of it. And I just think you're incredible. Thanks, Sarah. Thanks for jumping. I just want to say, I want to say like, look, when one of my greatest fears in life is that when I pass away, I will not have made a mark and I will not be remembered for the things that I've done, whether it be raising my children, whether it be my work, whatever it is. awesome when Nick was when when Nick was in the hospital and everything like that the way dude was a rock star you made him a rock star he had a hit record like all of his it's crazy like all of his dreams before he passed came true because of you and, and your being able to represent him. I always, I, I pray that when, you know, that these are things that, these are things that we have no control over anything, but everybody wants to be remembered for something and you made it happen. You know what I mean? Everybody knew who he was before he left. And that's something that, you know, as a performer, and maybe it's me being, maybe it's my vanity, whatever it is, you always want to leave a mark. And he was able to leave a
Starting point is 01:15:31 mark thanks to you. And I just wanted to, I just wanted you to know that I think that's such an amazing quality to have as a partner. You know what I mean? Like to, we always say we're in it together and everything like that but when the chips are down and everything and it's and and the going gets rough you know they write songs about it will you can you stand the rain and and uh i i i i know that my wife would do the same for me but you know it was just so amazing to see the love that you had for him and what you were willing to do to make sure he was represented. And that's so dope. Well, thanks, Donald. not the intention in the beginning of sharing the story, but as like so many people started
Starting point is 01:16:25 following the story and praying for Nick and supporting us and Nick and his family, it kind of just unfolded that way because I wanted people to know who they were supporting. You know what I mean? And Nick couldn't talk, right? So I was like, okay, you guys are like, I have all these people all over the world singing this man's song. They should know who he is. They got to know some stories about him and us. And, like, if you're praying for us every single day, like, I want you to know who you're praying for. I want you to understand who we are and who he is and why I love him and why I think he's special. But, you know, I will have to say, like, I mean, Zach knows.
Starting point is 01:17:03 You know, Nick was 41, and he wanted to, you know, have this music career. And we just had a new baby and we moved to L.A. and we had no money. And it was a bit of a struggle. And I wasn't necessarily the most supportive wife in his, you know, I want to go on tour in a truck and play cities across America with our baby and two dogs. And I was like, how does that work? And he's like, you can teach fitness in all the cities, and we can live out of a van. And I was like, you know.
Starting point is 01:17:36 And so I wasn't necessarily the most supportive, but I will say in this journey and playing his song every day and just making everybody and playing his song every day and, you know, just making everybody else sing his song, you know, I turned into his biggest fan, which I, you know, like, I know he knows now, but, you know, it just, it's, I'm glad I turned into his biggest fan because he was so talented and he did know everything about music. That guy was like, he just, he knew everything. When I was reading the book, there's so many amazing stories about your romance and falling in love. And I just love the way you structure it
Starting point is 01:18:19 because the story, what happened is quite tragic, but there's so much love and hope in it. There's the love of you two falling in love with each other. There's the familial love of you and your siblings rallying, them rallying around you. There's the community of love, our friends that did our best to rally around you. And then because you were so diligent about sharing this story on Instagram and the web, so diligent about sharing this story on Instagram and the web, people all around the world. I mean, when you see the, Amanda talks about the letters she gets from so many countries around the world, and she would read them to Nick, and so many people who just would pray and sing with her and share their love. It was just a, it was just really heartwarming in a way that at such a horrible time, so many thousands
Starting point is 01:19:06 and thousands of people rallied together for you. Yeah, it's crazy. I still honestly can't believe it. Instagram archives all of your stories and things, which is how I got a lot of information back to write down in this book because this book is so detailed, heavily detailed. And a lot of it was right in my brain just because, you know, when you're that into something like this, you just remember the medicines, the doctors, you just, it's right there. But I would go back into Instagram archives and watch like all the 3 p.m. singings and all of the people that would send their messages from like literally all over the world. And there'd be nights I would cry myself to sleep just being like, how did this happen?
Starting point is 01:19:47 How did this, how? You know, it doesn't even, like the story, everything that happened with Nick seems still surreal to me. But even just like that, everything, the rally of the people that supported us just doesn't even still seem real. It's crazy. I like it when the world shows that people are good sometimes. Yeah. No, I think, you know what though? Like that's what I think that was one of the most beautiful takeaways from this pandemic is that for the first time
Starting point is 01:20:15 in our lives, the world, we were all on the same note. Everybody was doing the exact same thing. Everybody. And so it forced us all to just like go back to our roots. And I think innately the roots of humans is just kindness. We want to be kind people. And we could be for the first time because all distractions of life were gone. And we had nothing else to do. I don't know if I could rally this army now with everybody back in their lives and work and busyness. But at the moment, it's like, it was this perfect weird moment of everybody needing a community, needing
Starting point is 01:20:51 something to do. And so I think when I was like 3 p.m., everybody's singing. Everybody was like, it is on the schedule. I have nothing else on the schedule, but I have that. 3 p.m., we're singing. I can't lie on the couch at 3. I have to sing at 3. Yes, it was like a something to do, and it gave people something to do. And I think also it goes without saying that we had just been told this was only putting old people in the ICU. And so Nick became the face of the fact that this could happen to a 41 year old. Was he 41? 41 year old.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And that was really terrifying, but also important for people to know, to land that. Another thing you might not know, and I'm going to tell our listeners this for the very first time. I have a little cabin behind my house that I named probably 15 years ago when I got it, Brown Bear Cabin after Donald. And no one knows that unless you come here. We just jokingly all call it Brown Bear Cabin because as you all know, I love Donald and I'm obsessed with all things Donald Faison. I'm naming
Starting point is 01:21:57 structures after him. Well, this is where Amanda and Nick and Elvis were living when Nick got sick. So one of the most said three words in the whole book is brown bear cabin. So, Donald, I want you to know that you're a big part of this book. Represent, represent. It's where we lived. We weren't going anywhere else. I mean, you know, at this time, we forget, you know, how different the world was a year ago. You know, like we're already back into this new world.
Starting point is 01:22:26 We forget a year ago we were afraid to leave our house. We thought groceries had COVID on them. Yeah. You know what I mean? I remember wiping down my groceries with, you know, antibacterial wipes and, you know, like food, actual food. Like literally wiping down tomatoes and apples and stuff like that. Scared that I would. I remember going outside and literally treating people like they had the plague.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Literally. Like don't come near my family. Don't come near my family. The hardest thing for me and Amanda was that I had to, when I said this, I finished the book, and I said to her, one of the things I said was we were just so scared. We didn't know what to do. Amanda was with Nick.
Starting point is 01:23:20 We didn't know if Amanda had it or not, obviously. And Amanda is kind of living proof that someone can not get it because the fact that you never got it is pretty miraculous. I mean, I mean, I don't know. I'm still I know the science is still rolling out. But Amanda, the fact that Amanda never got it is pretty amazing. And so there were times some of the hardest times I can remember watching you cry and i i didn't know what to do because i had to stay six feet from her so i would stand there watching her cry i remember do you remember the day that uh nick so it was good friday nick um died on the table for two minutes it was the first time that he died and uh they resuscitated him and got him back and were putting him on ECMO.
Starting point is 01:24:06 But there was a moment in time where I did not know if he was going to survive and be put on this machine. So I, of course, desperately called Zach and our friend Trevor and they came running down. But they both like, and I'm in the cabin, obviously, I just got told my husband died for two minutes. So I'm disastrous on the floor of the cabin. I don't even remember where Elvis was. I was like just, I couldn't even focus.
Starting point is 01:24:27 And I remember like both you and Trevor, like you didn't, like you couldn't, it was the early days of COVID, like super early. This was like March, you know, end of March. Like we were all terrified. And I just remember like you didn't even want to walk in the cabin. We didn't know what to do. We put masks on and we sat like on the ground because Amanda was sobbing on the ground. And Trevor and I sat six feet from her, like on the ground with her.
Starting point is 01:24:55 And it was one of the hardest things I've ever experienced in my life to not be able to go and hug someone in so much pain. Yeah. That was so crazy. No, I mean, but I could have, I mean, I could have had it. You know what I mean? I think we both assumed you did, you know? Yeah. I mean, yeah, luckily.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I mean, that was the weirdest thing, though. I mean, next doctor said, you know, there's people in the ICU where their whole families have got it, and then there's people like your family where one person gets it and everyone else is completely fine, which was what made it so hard. He said all the time, it's like the wild, wild west. We do not know how to operate around this virus because it is always different. Another crazy thing about Nick that a lot of people don't know and you'll learn in the book is that COVID came and did what it did to Nick's body and then left.
Starting point is 01:25:44 So much of what happened to Nick, COVID was long gone out of his body. He wasn't even on a COVID floor. But it came in, destroyed his lungs, destroyed his body and his organs, and then was gone. And that's something a lot of people are surprised by, that Nick wasn't COVID positive for that long. I remember, you know what i also remember i remember amanda telling us what was happening to nick
Starting point is 01:26:12 and then that becoming news two weeks later or a week later where it was like you know it does this to your lungs and then two weeks later the whole thing about how it affects people's respiratory system uh how blood clotting could happen and then two weeks later the blood clot story came i just remember i remember being like holy cow this dude's going through it seemed like he went through all of it like every effect that covid could have on someone he went through it and i remember being And I remember being like, I remember being like, this is how, how is this happening to this one person? How is this one person experiencing all of these symptoms? You know, and you just said, you know, he only
Starting point is 01:26:56 had it for a couple of weeks and then that was it. Like it really took, it really did. I mean. There's a nuclear bomb on his body. I mean, it just nuclear bombed his lungs. No, they said, what did they say? It was,
Starting point is 01:27:09 it looks like he was a smoker for 50 years. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. You guys, the first time they showed me his lung scans, I mean, it's,
Starting point is 01:27:19 it's the stories in the book, but I came home to the, I couldn't even talk and Todd and Anna knew something was wrong. And then I broke down and told them what I saw. And I thought for sure Nick would go that day. I was like, there's, you don't recover. I mean, the huge holes in his lungs, huge, like you, you know, and then, but then this is what's crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:42 And you'll read about it in the book, The Ups and Downs of the ICU. That's one doctor's opinion. And then literally the next morning after a Xanax and no sleep that night because I thought, no way is my husband even making another day, I get another phone call from my doctor who I love, the positive doctor. And he was like, Amanda, God gave us so much more lung than we need. He's fine. And I was like, what? Like, but like, this was the daily, literally the daily battle of my life during these times where it was like, one doctor says something where you are like preparing for the worst. And then two seconds
Starting point is 01:28:16 later, they call and go, oh, no, no, no. His numbers are fine. Everything looks good. He's doing great today. Yeah. One of the frustrating things you'll read about in the book is that Amanda had to deal with, you know, doctors don't, as we know from the television show Scrubs, doctors don't always agree how to treat someone or what the prognosis is. And there was a roller coaster ride for her. But the flip side of things, man, is this a testament to a lot of amazing health care heroes in this book, the nurses that were angels, angels, angels to Amanda, and the orderlies and the doctors. There's one in particular. Amanda changed most of the names of people not to disturb their privacy, but one doctor is such a hero, was such a hero, is such a hero to Amanda
Starting point is 01:29:01 that she asked his permission and kept his name because he's the kind of doctor we honor on this show and celebrate because he was by your side all the time. Yeah, he's the best. He's now my doctor. When I reached out to him after Nick passed, because I still hadn't found a doctor in LA, I was like, hey, Dr. Ng, I really need a doctor, probably good for me to just, you know, have somebody that I can go to, you know, at any time. And he was like, if you feel okay, he was like, you know, I would happily take you on as a patient. And he was like, I understand if that's weird, though. And I was like, actually, no, I have your cell phone, which is amazing. And I can get ahold of you at any moment.
Starting point is 01:29:46 And like we went to war together. Like we really did. I mean, he says in this book, after Nick passes, there's a beautiful moment where we get to kind of chat after a couple of days. And he said to me, he goes, I've talked to you more than my wife in the last three months. So not talking to you for three days felt very weird. How are you? That's the kind of man he is. And he would just text her all the time. And he's such a hero.
Starting point is 01:30:14 And by the way, this is happening to remind us all at the most insane time that's ever happened in this country, all while a pandemic's going on at Cedars-Sinai, one of the biggest hospitals in LA. So anyway, I love you. We love you. Love you. This is incredible. Listeners, I'm not just saying- I love you, Amanda. I love you too. I'm not just saying this because I love her. I genuinely, if you want to know more about the story, and also if you're someone who's gone through grief and found a way to stand back up again.
Starting point is 01:30:48 And it's just an incredible piece of work. I think this is going to be a bestseller, if I could predict. It's called Live Your Life. So it's out. You can get it at your local bookshop. You can get it on Amazon, wherever you buy books. Live Your Life by Amanda Klutz. Amanda, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Thank you. Amanda, I can't wait to read it. I preordered the second I could, and Amanda Klutz. Amanda, thank you so much. Thank you. Amanda, I can't wait to read it. I pre-ordered the second I could, and it's on its way. You're so sweet. Are you going to do an audiobook? Are you going to do an audiobook? So I did do the audiobook. It was an incredibly hard experience, but the audiobook is available, and as soon as you order, it's in your inbox. Donald, I know you like audiobook books, so you should get it. I cry a lot while speaking, but they assured me that that's okay to do.
Starting point is 01:31:32 You should have. On the handful of sentences I have in the book, not to make this about me, but I should have been called in to read my sentences for the audio book. Oh, should you have? I did your voice. I even added that. Did you really? Did you add, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh um you know i you know you know how it goes man with me i uh i love everybody even my haters so you don't have any haters everybody loves the don oh trust me i have some haters but i love you too
Starting point is 01:32:14 um joelle and daniel um should we tell everyone what we're doing uh tomorrow oh my gosh i'm gonna tell them if they're not gonna tell them yeah we're going to disneyland. I'm going to tell them. If they're not going to tell them, we're going to Disneyland, dude. We are going to Disneyland and we're going to get on Small World. We're going to do Star Wars. We're going to get on Nemo. We're going to ride the ride with Nemo.
Starting point is 01:32:38 What else are we going to do? I'm not doing the ones that make me woozy. We're going to do Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, that's going to make me woozy. We're going to do Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, that's going to make me woozy. We're going to the Marble Campus. Yes, we're doing that for sure. That's what you think.
Starting point is 01:32:52 We're building a lightsaber. Oh, yeah. You're not getting me on. I have a bad back. It's never going to happen. Joelle, you're going to build a lightsaber. But you are going to enjoy these rides. I'm telling you that right now. Don't think y'all are going to Disneyland to just build a lightsaber.
Starting point is 01:33:03 You're going to Disneyland to get on some rides, too, whether it be Small World. Okay. Alright, we love you guys, and we'll see you next time. Sarah, you have the honor of counting us out, but do it in German. Zum Sitz! Leave it up! Hi, friends.
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