Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic: 622 - My Point of No Return with Bill Lawrence

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

On this week's episode, JD and Elliot realize they've backed themselves into a corner they no longer want to live in. In the real world, it's the season six finale, and we're going to take a brief bre...ak to recharge so we can come back and make more super awesome episodes for you. Plus, Bill Lawrence returns to his podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:53 Bye-bye. Don't speak. I know just what you're saying. So please stop explaining. Don't tell me that it hurts by the way do you guys got to watch um this for some reason landed this in my head the netflix documentary about woodstock 99 oh i did hear about that yeah that shit was wild you've got to see this donald you can't believe i had no idea is that where the mud fights yeah the mud fights and all that shit happen there? It's not mud.
Starting point is 00:02:26 It's poo. They don't know they're in poo. A buddy of mine went to Woodstock and has pictures of himself in the mud fights and everything like that. Hey, bud, I just want you to know you were slinging
Starting point is 00:02:42 doo-doo. It's so gross. It's so gross. It's so gross. But you got to see this documentary. It's a three-part documentary, listeners. I highly recommend it. It's shocking and really well done. But it's crazy what happened at that fucking festival. Donald, it's the season six.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Well, I'm not going to spoil it for anyone. Just insanity. They fucking rioted. They started fires. It's incredible. It's the season six finale. And what a finale it is, Zach. I laughed so hard.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I wrote so many notes. But there's a couple of them. I think the biggest laugh, as always, is Rob Mascio. Yes, of course. We have a special visitor coming for the listeners today. Joel, is special present for the listeners here? No. Or Daniel?
Starting point is 00:03:28 No. Okay. We have a very special guest for you listeners because we love you. And we like to give you special treats, especially when it's the season finale of season six. We're going to give you two special treats. We're going to watch the show with you in the next episode. We're going to give you two special treats. We're going to watch the show with you in the next episode.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And in this episode, the season six finale, we're bringing in a heavy hitter. We're just going to leave it at that for now. Yeah. Daniel will let us know when the surprise is here. But how are you, Adeyashun? Just checking in with you. How are things?
Starting point is 00:04:02 Rocco had his birthday, I saw. Rocco is now officially nine years old nine big ones it's very interesting because he's taller than nine like he's taller than the average nine-year-old and so when I look at him I see such an older kid and but he behaves like a nine-year-old and you know you know what I mean and it's like and I have to accept that I'm so proud of him he's blossoming and growing into this really awesome
Starting point is 00:04:34 kid right now and I'm really excited about that but what I'm really excited about is that as actors when you're as actors who have to go across the world and do things and stuff, it's rare that you get to stay home and be with your children. And these past couple of months, this summer, I've had the luxury of working in L.A. And it hasn't been like that in a long time.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And so it's great. It's great. So I'm sure they're so glad that you're around and you can be a part, especially since so much is happening with your kids. Yeah, it's really cool, man. My daughter's heavy into dancing and gymnastics and all of that stuff now, and basketball as well. And Rocco's heavy into basketball, and school's about to start up,
Starting point is 00:05:22 and life is moving at a fast pace. It's good to start up and, you know, life is moving and it's moving at a fast pace. Is it safe to say it's good to be a day-ish? I think it's good to be alive for anyone right now. I think everybody needs to just sit back and, you know, if you could just take a moment and take a mental Polaroid of where you are, you know, in life right now and understand that it's not, the goal isn't, isn't waiting for you at the end of the finish line.
Starting point is 00:05:51 The, you know, the, the goal is the journey. That's, you know, enjoy the journey that you're on. And I'm enjoying this right now. Yeah, that's well said, man. And I am too. And I appreciate this you know as we end season six I gotta we gotta always say how much we appreciate you listeners this is so fun for us I was preparing for this show just now watching the episode and I'm cracking up I'm
Starting point is 00:06:16 sitting here alone I'm swiping tears from my eyes laughing so hard yeah and I would not be doing that if it weren't for this show. And, and so I just want to just shout out you listeners who, who, you know, you give us the reason to do this and so much joy doing the show. And also of course, revisiting scrubs and laughing and knowing that I'm going to get to crack up with, with you three is, is something I look forward to every week. So thank you. And on that note, five, six, seven, eight. Stories about a show we made.
Starting point is 00:06:52 About a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love to hate. I said here's our stories that you all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch show with Zach and Donald. Alright, so we'll wait for a special guest, and let's just get into it. J.D.
Starting point is 00:07:17 He is into it, huh? At first he's not into it. He's like, I'm gonna save myself for marriage. And then with the shift of the wind, he's not into it he's like i'm gonna save myself for marriage and then with the all who is it the shift of the wind the the the change of the wind and all of a sudden he had movement and there it is and well he's down to go side boob it's amazing how powerful a little side boob can be donald you know side boob can bring down a man's defenses let's be honest there's a lot of things that can bring down a man's defenses you put meat in front of a dog
Starting point is 00:07:53 he's gonna eat well let's just keep it 100 she's a beautiful woman my wife always told me you put meat in front of a dog it's gonna eat to eat it. That's just real talk. Well, he's single. He hasn't had, it's implied he hasn't had sex in a long time. Dog. Dog. A beautiful woman is in his arms. Dog. She's carrying his baby.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Dog. And all of a sudden, there's some side boob swiping. Oh! Yeah, he's no match for Elizabeth Banks' side boob. No, nor is any man, nor is anyone, nor is any person. Here's what I've never heard. She says that the baby was moving quite a bit during the intercourse and that he, quote, enjoyed it. Now, I've when things enter environments. Word?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Word. I've honestly never heard this. I was watching this. Whoa! Sometimes it could be scary. And you think he's moving? I think the baby is like, get the fuck out of here. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:09:23 What is? How are you? What you doing up in here? What is this? I never, get out of my space. Right, this is my shit. This is my room. I've honestly never heard of this.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Get out of my room. I've never heard it discussed. I've heard people make jokes about like, oh, we can't have sex. I have a baby inside me. But I've never heard of like the actual biology. If, if the baby reacts to during intercourse until this episode of scrubs, I mean, don't, doesn't, doesn't can't seem in like cause labor also. Like, I don't know, man. Do you know?
Starting point is 00:09:57 No, they do. They do encourage like, if you know, you're very pregnant and your due date's right around the corner and you're like, I want this baby out of me, they're like, sex can help. I don't know how that works, but sex, spicy foods. Sex or semen. Dave Donald just said the semen. I would think it's the movement.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yes, I think it's more about the sex than the semen. I think it's all of it. I think it's all of the lubrication. Can you Google whether semen can induce labor? Because I don't think that's true as a fake doctor. Listen, as a fake doctor, it can be true. Hold on. As a fake doctor, anything can be true.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I can say whatever the fuck I want. I'm a fake doctor. I've never stood up here and said, I'm a real doctor. You should take what I say as fact. I'm a fake doctor. I'm going to make up as much as I can. I'm just saying can if a very pregnant woman is listening i don't want her to be like oh let me go get some seaming because i'm ready to give birth
Starting point is 00:10:52 sperm banks would be off the chain right now get it out just doing shots okay everyone settle in for this so for example fazon was right just let's just start with that let's just start all right pause pause sexual activity especially having an orgasm can release oxytocin which may help jumpstart uterine contractions also for pregnant people who have sex with men there are prostaglandin hormones and semen that might help ripen the cervix. Oh, Donald, you ripen the cervix. I only know this because I did a movie called Home Delivery that involved some... Ripening the cervix? Some ripening the cervix.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And so I know this. It's coming soon, y'all. So when you get the chance, go check out Home Delivery. Wow. Oh, wow, Donald. I would have never guessed you were right about that. But everyone, it's about intercourse. Don't do shots of semen.
Starting point is 00:11:52 No, no, no, no, no. Don't drink it. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Even Daniel's saying, oh, my God, in that one. All right. So we got lots to talk about. So then we see a montage that three weeks go by,
Starting point is 00:12:08 and they're feeling each other. They're building the crib. They're doing all the stereotypic couple about to have a baby things. And we learn that Elliot's wedding is in one week. And so things are really building up. The janitor didn't get his invite because she... Wait, hold up. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Before we go forward, I thought this was really interesting how J.D. and Elliot are sharing the A storyline and the B storyline is the janitor and the brain trust. How often does that happen? I don't think we've paid attention necessarily to that while making the show. But, you know, I just found that very interesting that the two of them shared, like,
Starting point is 00:12:51 his storyline, J.D.'s storyline with Kim and Elliot's storyline with Keith were all a part of the same. They're sort of mirroring each other. Yeah, they were all kind of the same storyline. And then the B storyline is the brain trust and the janitor all right uh donald special guest is here daniel timpani please some really juicy timpani some season six finale timpani i can't believe we did it i can't and let and let special guest in
Starting point is 00:13:21 she guessed it. Yay! There he is. How upsetting. No! What do you mean? What is... Make more noise. More noise.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Hey! I feel like there is a concerted effort to not get me to join my podcast today. Wow. What are you talking about? We're so happy you're on.
Starting point is 00:13:42 This whole season six, Bill, we've been talking about how you're we said oh we should do an ass bill and then we're always like no he's way too busy we can't even ask do an ass bill yeah just so you guys know um it's good to see you all again i had a weird moment this morning because it's the first time i drove onto the set and that security guard didn't say i love your podcast. We have to tell the audience, if you haven't been keeping track, Bill has been doing something that I never really knew someone could possibly do,
Starting point is 00:14:17 and that is show running two big-ass shows simultaneously on different coasts, one in Miami and one in L.A. Bill, how the hell are you? You just finished. Do you want to get in the fetal position? What's happening in your head? Hey, man. I'm okay. I miss you guys. It makes me really happy to be here. Look, I like my job a lot. Bill, how the hell are you? You just finished. Do you want to get in the fetal position? What's happening in your head? Hey, man. I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I miss you guys. It makes me really happy to be here. Look, I like my job a lot. I'm never going to do that again. It was a giant mistake. But I want to stay on this, though, because I didn't get to prepare because Dan even knows I was going to send him something. I've been working on some new characters. I'll tell you what I mean.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I need a new character. I can't turn up the guy anymore. I'll tell you what I need a new character. The problem was I kept trying to obsess about a funnier way to do interrupting guy and interrupting bill. And I have it. I haven't been able to beat. I still, people still talk to me on social media about when interrupting bill interrupted me,
Starting point is 00:15:02 interrupting you guys. It was like, it was like that it was like inception i got a new one i'm gonna ruin it so it can't be one but i think we should come up with a new character for me today would be helpful for me my new one um was and i wanted to do uh uh uh i'm not finished talking about this guy so here's my here's my idea my idea was to talk about something donald and i'd have to talk to you about it before that is going to annoy zach until zach can we finish can we be done talking about this and then i was gonna say yeah all right i'm done talking about this but when i say that that would be daniel's cue to hit a button i'm not done talking about this my favorite part of this
Starting point is 00:15:55 my favorite part of this is bill in post on two giant shows and instead he's sitting there brainstorming on a new character for the podcast. I'm not done talking about this guy. Is it bad? No, that's great. I love this character. It just takes work. You have to prepare. Well, you know, in my head,
Starting point is 00:16:12 I have to find a great topic that Donald and I can riff on that will eventually annoy Zach. And then Zach can go, oh my God, we stopped talking about this. And then maybe Donald and I would work it out and say, all right, we're done. And that's when my prompt of the guy that's not done talking about this would make a fast point.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I think we could do that, Donald. And if we're careful, Zach will never see it coming, even with this one. Yeah, I'll see it coming. If it's about a basketball player, I might see it coming. You won't see it coming regardless of what it is. I don't think you'll see it coming. All right, bill i have questions this is the season six finale it's the last episode on nbc i believe yes i think so and um no no season seven was the last episode on nbc because uh they juggled the order of it it was a shortened season seven and they made um the princess bride homage
Starting point is 00:17:05 the finale even though it was not the finale i see now is there something is there some reason on on scrubs wiki it says this is the last one that touchstone that has the touchstone tv logo on it is this one like abc changed their name or something uh could it be i don't know you know it's weird i was uh uh i'll just tell you what it says and it might mean nothing but it says this is the last episode to use the 2004 touchstone television logo since the season four premiere that's just something unscrubbed with you maybe you don't know what the hell that's about uh i do it's because touchstone used to be their studio and then they just all became disney you know what I mean? Got it. Got it. Got it.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Oh, they changed to Disney. Remember, there used to be Touchstone pictures, too, and it became obsolete. I missed Touchstone, and there was one other one. Wasn't there another Disney movie? It was Touchstone and something else. Touchstone was Disney's kind of cool, you know. Can't Buy Me Love and all of those. Yeah. And it of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And it went away. Yeah. I don't think you're allowed in these times to have a company name that starts with touch. Bill, did you, um, I know we were always kind of going year by year. Was there any thought in your mind that this could be the last season of the, the last episode of the show? No, I knew this one wasn't the last. They were taking the show right then. And remember, we probably would have stayed on.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It's good trivia for next year. If it weren't for the writer's strike, we probably would have stayed on NBC even longer. That just kind of confused things. Right. And that happened this season? Seventh season. Oh, the next one.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Seventh season is shortened. And the one thing that still is one of my top five scrubs internet traffic about when the writer's strike hit we had a bunch of episodes in the can but not one that could conceivably be nbc's series finale so they juggled it and they made the princess bride episode which was really cool yeah the season finale and hinted it could be the series finale but if it was the series finale it made no sense and it made me very mad i know i'm frustrated about that too because i directed it and you and i and the whole crew and cast put so much
Starting point is 00:19:17 love into that and then i feel like it was sort of judged harshly because people were judging it as the series finale it was very weird we never we meant it to, I mean, you know, I think people would have loved it and digested it differently if they thought, oh, this is just a super out-of-the-box episode of Scrubs as opposed to we're ending the series on this. They did what was their right, and they flipped the order. So Ken Jenkins' character, Kelso, had even already left the hospital, and then for some reason in the season finale, he's back working there again. It was very weird.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Back to this one, back to this one. I was going to, I was just going to just put that into comparison with everything that's
Starting point is 00:19:59 shifting at Warner brothers. I mean, that's just how it goes, man. The business is the business. And I know fans get pissed off about stuff like that, but there's nothing that we as creatives can
Starting point is 00:20:10 do about that. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, there is. Is there? Okay. Bill's going to release Batgirl. What if I just start? What if I go, there is. I just hit a button and Batgirl starts. I'd watch the whole thing right now.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I wouldn't mind. If you guys had to build Instagram, if you guys had to build Instagram, he's broken Batgirl into many Insta stories. Yeah. By the way, I'm making more time for social media now. Maybe if I start acting it out. The. No. So here's the the and people like to say that things are changing they aren't changing it's just more of the same and what i
Starting point is 00:20:52 mean by that is uh uh the one truth is that the businesses and powers that be in hollywood will always do understandably i'll be careful what what's right for them, until the end of time. The story of Batgirl, there's a thousand stories like that of expensive pilots and shows and movies shelved and redone. That's what Donald said. When I was saying it's never been done before. It's been done a billion times. No, I know what I meant was with a $90 million feature. I don't think that's been done before no i know what i meant was with a 90 million dollar feature
Starting point is 00:21:25 i don't think that's been done before but donald's yet last week was saying well yeah but think about pilots it's maybe not this much money but it's a fuckload of money uh think about the amount of movies and tv shows that were completely reshot yeah to make it by the way one of the most famous things don't get through homes they made the game of thrones pilot yeah yeah and by the way also zach if you add up we're saying this is a new thing how is this that much different than all the super expensive i could have added up tv pilots that were made invested in shot and then never allowed to be shown to anybody. I personally have made, I'm just counting them, a cool $75 million worth of pilots that were never seen by a single person that exists. Yeah. That's exactly what Donald was saying last week. I get it. And the opposite side of this, I will tell you that a cool thing for
Starting point is 00:22:20 content creators is that there is still a leverage shift once you do something that everybody digs. And the second you do something that everybody digs, the leverage shift goes from the studio and company paying for it to the creators making it and the people in it. But that's the fact that that hasn't changed yet is great. So even in the netflix model where they say um oh netflix you're going to do three years and be gone right um stranger fiction you know is a stranger it's still on because there's a leverage shift on that show you know because it it the creators and people that make it so in demand you know that they get to keep doing whatever the heck they want to keep doing you know and so that's
Starting point is 00:23:07 Stranger Things because I was thinking about a weird movie Stranger Things there you know did not do two seasons and go out like other Netflix shows do you know what I mean it's gonna do five seasons it looks like yeah and like look even Ted
Starting point is 00:23:24 Lasso is a great example because when it was pitched, it was definitely pitched as a two or three season show and everybody was fine with that. And now it is without a doubt, a hundred percent, Jason Sudeikis' prerogative
Starting point is 00:23:37 how long that show goes on. You know what I mean? Do you want to give us any, do you want to give us any, any, any, if you were to tell us, Bill,
Starting point is 00:23:44 we would get so many listens. We would get a lot of publicity. Maybe we can say something. We need clickbait for our podcast. It can be, you know why? Even if I, even if I knew I wouldn't, but I don't know because it is so firmly Mr. Sudeikis is called. It's up to Jason. And I think that's the cool beauty of this
Starting point is 00:24:08 show is he'll know and he'll let people know when it's time to let him know you know yeah zach was uh one of the things i was doing zach was in it donald and uh he was uh very very good uh uh and i i won't do any spoilers because he had to do drama and violence and be a drug addict. And he absolutely crushed it. And I had to thank you, man. I had not seen our friend Zach act in a while. And it made me think I got to see my friend Donald act in one of these things, too, man. It's been too long.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Oh, I agree. A hundred percent. Oh, I agree. You know what? I agree. A i agree 100 but i will say this zach is leveled up in his acting he was good but he's leveled up a bit by the way yeah i will say this i don't know bill out of all these years bill came to me almost surprised like you're really good in that episode i used to get pegged on this all the time. The ultimate in thought,
Starting point is 00:25:07 which is I use the word actually. You were actually really good in that. But I will say this. I got a good topic for this and then you can go back to the show because it's back, takes it back to all of us. You guys can use this or not use this.
Starting point is 00:25:22 So since we did that thing in um texas i'm always inundated with people asking if we're gonna reboot scrubs and i always you know because we said yeah we'll do it sometime we will do it sometime right because it'll be fun and we love each other and that picture of all of us at dinner gives me joy whenever i see it right on um but none of us are you know none of us are like going like oh we have to make it happen tomorrow we'll just do it sometime but don't you think the three of us idiots should work together
Starting point is 00:25:51 before that and figure out a way to all work together you had me at hello you had me when you said don't you think you had me when you said duh it could be about a uh by the way it could be about an upstart podcast that i run no i try to
Starting point is 00:26:15 but this one's too soon but this will be good this will be good. This is pretty good. As a cool, savvy producer named Joel. I got just the woman who can play Joel. No, man. You know it goes without saying. We're good. We love you, man. And we're dying to do something with you. I was literally swiping tears from laughter watching this episode, Bill.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And it's how many years ago. And it just makes me laugh so hard. And so obviously it goes without saying we'd love to do anything with you. Well, that was one of my other characters is steal your idea guy. So if you want to bring guests in, but it would be funny to see Zach and Donald do together. Oh, that's a good runner for season seven, Joel. I'll gladly steal it.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yes. Instead of – this is great. All right. That's a great runner. I just need a legal disclaimer. If anything close to your idea – if you make the mistake of saying what your idea is and anything close to your idea shows up, that's not my problem. No, you came on the show. You came on the show. You came on the show.
Starting point is 00:27:25 They're going to have to sign something like, if we actually make a show out of it, they get like a check or something. They get a t-shirt. They get a t-shirt. No, but how fun would it be for season seven is instead of fix your life and instead of random questions,
Starting point is 00:27:39 it's just pitch your idea for the Zach and Donald Bill Lawrence show. How many times do you think we'd be werewolves? A lot. A lot. A lot. You know, Dr. Acula would
Starting point is 00:27:54 be... We'd have to make a rule that you can't pitch Dr. Acula. Anyway, let's get back to the scrubs. It can't be related to scrubs because then it's owned by somebody else. Alright, let's talk about scrubs show, Scrubs. It can't be related to Scrubs because then it's owned by somebody else. Alright, let's talk about Scrubs.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Alright, so this is official. Instead of Fix Your Life, the new segment at the end of the show is Pitch Your Idea. That we'll do next. With Bill. Send us a voice memo to scrubsiheart at gmail.com
Starting point is 00:28:22 And there you go. This is why this podcast belongs to Bill, guys. This is why. Oh, it happens. Joel has time to figure out the document that people need to sign for when we actually make the show. I'd say, by the way, Zach, you've been around it before. If anybody makes a mistake of talking about an idea in front of me,
Starting point is 00:28:44 I generally say I own 20%. Well, we know from doing this show with you that you'd be like, what did you guys do this weekend? And we'd tell you. And like a week later, it was in the show. Hey, we're a little stuck in the writer's room. What did you guys do this weekend? We tried to get into a club,
Starting point is 00:29:03 and I was wearing a giant clock around my neck and the bouncer wouldn't let us in that did not happen there's no way yeah but with zach you can almost believe it happened yeah all right so bill i don't know if you had a chance to watch the episode or not but we'll remind you of things i didn't watch it but i read the wiki thing and I remember it very well and I have some good trivia about it. Alright, before we do that, we're going to take a break. We'll be right back after. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Scratch Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. And we're back. And we're back! Bill, you're not allowed to say we're back. That's not a guest. And he came in so smooth with it too. Bill, and we're back is really for the host.
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Starting point is 00:32:05 You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers. Probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey with so many of you. There's something so authentic about a podcast. It's me connecting, me talking raw in the moment. That's what my goal is to give you, to talk about why I feel that cancer, to a certain extent, is a gift, what my responsibilities are as a person with cancer, because I think that there's something so much bigger than me. And to be honest, I'm still trying to find out what that is.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And maybe together we'll find it. It's going to be a wild ride. So I hope that you all tune in. Listen to Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. We're back, you guys. Guys, we're back. Now we're back now we're back we're back thanks please don't the audience doesn't want to hear unnecessary commercials i got another character so listen when um when cox So listen, when Cox kicks everybody out of the lobby, Bill, I believe you're one of the people that's running out of the gift shop and stealing from the gift shop. Yeah, yeah, take something. But first of all, I didn't understand. I didn't see your cameo, but I saw on Scrubs Wiki that it says you're one of the people.
Starting point is 00:33:44 But then I didn't understand why Cox screams, everyone out of the lobby, everyone out of here. And then people really, they loot the gift shop. I just want you to know that aside from my embarrassing cameos, which I intended, which is the priest and then the janitor at the end. cameos which i intended which is the priest and then the janitor at the end yeah every other cameo i had on this show happened because you were shooting a scene on the first floor and i was on the way to the kitchen to steal uh popsicles yeah or the top of a muffin yeah if i if i walked by to the kitchen and they were doing something that i could put myself in. I would stop and put myself in it out of sheer boredom. In my scrubs world. You all the janitor and the,
Starting point is 00:34:30 and the, and the minister in Bahamas are the same guy. Yeah, that makes sense. They're probably. By the way, my favorite cameo I put myself in was there was an episode with other people that the B team had the
Starting point is 00:34:45 voiceover it was Krista and the Todd and Sam Lloyd all had voiceovers in one episode and Chris we're in the coffee place I was going to get a coffee and she says the reason that she was such a horrible person is that her parents were very mean to her and you can actually hear me in the background in line but apparently her parents were very mean oh yeah we did that one we did that episode and by the way that was nobody even knew i was going to say it's off mic because i just walked in there and said that i was very it was probably my proudest camera but whatever show we do together is going to have to have a component that i'm allowed to walk in and say something when i feel like okay those of you those of you prepared to pitch your ideas uh write in uh random appearances of bill i love that all your random appearances have to do with you going to the kitchen to get
Starting point is 00:35:28 a snack. I'm in the show whenever I was really hungry. Yeah. Um, I remember the Jamba juice phase. Do you remember the Jamba juice phase where you came to set every morning with the Jamba juice? That was like three years in a row. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And then we put it, we put that whole thing in the show because I was weird about which one I liked. And I think we had you saying that, I can't remember what it was. Orange Goo Goo. Orange Goo Goo. Which is not a smoothie flavor, but true. No.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So Bill, I don't know if you remember this, but after you loot the gift shop, because Cox has screamed at everyone to go, a plant stands up and an animated plant walks out of the lobby. One of the top five worst things we've ever done. And by the way, it was so stoner random. Ask me if the animation's very good. Is the animation good, Bill? No, it's horrible.
Starting point is 00:36:23 It's really bad. At this day and age, Donald could have done the stop motion and it would have looked really fucking awesome. By the way, Donald's stop motion is getting good. I'm working on it. He leveled up. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Yo, why is Colonel Doctor never invited to anything?
Starting point is 00:36:38 Oh, my God. There's a really – we just had an episode where Sarah really disses Colonel Doctor in terms of her wedding invites. And in this episode, Jordan disses Colonel Doctor to be invited to the baptism. The poor guy gets a lot of hate in the hospital. By the way, you know that you remember who Colonel Doctor's son is. It's Lloyd. Yes. Mike Swartz.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Right. I forgot. A meth addicted bad. a meth-addicted bad guy. Do you guys remember what Colonel Doctor's real name is? Coleman Slosky. Coleman Slosky.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You're talking to two guys who just watched most of the Scrubs series. It's Coleslaw and Lloyd Slosky. And Lloyd Slosky. Lloyd Slosky! Mike Schwartz has a few laughs in this episode because he's, to
Starting point is 00:37:29 remind you, the janitor... He's replaced Doug, I believe. Yeah. Johnny Castle's very funny on the outskirts watching, you know, watching from the outside in. Let's just remind the audience of a few plot points here. So the janitor in this episode has been invited to Sarah's wedding,
Starting point is 00:37:49 Elliot's wedding, and he's so shocked. In fact, she hugs him, and I don't think we've ever seen or do ever see the janitor, or maybe other than Lady, we don't ever see him hug anybody else. He hugs Carla, but not really hugging. He hugs her and picks her up and shakes her back and forth thank you for being in the picture okay that's right that's right that's right but he gets a hug from blonde doctor who we we know he has a a special uh place in his
Starting point is 00:38:18 heart and um and blonde and then so then he assembles the brain trust to figure out how what he can get her as a wedding present and he's decided to kick d he assembles the brain trust to figure out how what he can get her as a wedding present. And he's decided to kick Doug out of the brain trust and replace Doug with Lloyd. Yes. Lloyd Slosky. Yeah. Yes. He never he never thought Doug was offering that much to the brain trust.
Starting point is 00:38:38 You know what I mean? In fact, the brain trust we learned to have special pagers. And he asked Doug to return the special pager. brain trust we learned have special pagers and he asked doug to return the special pager do you know who my favorite brain test member was that we had trouble getting back because i don't even know if she was acting or doing other things crazy i margo crazy i margo yeah crazy eyes margo did disappear yeah it wasn't they all did so did troy troy's gone troy's gone troy was by the way the brain trust was always evolving uh and it always gave me great joy to see it every time i think taryn was in the brain trust for a second we haven't gotten to taryn yet i can't wait for this he must be season seven season seven here
Starting point is 00:39:17 we go either season seven or eight one or the other so there's a joke about um uh how couples can finish each other's sentences, and we think it's going to be Carla and Turk, but then it's me and Donald. J.D. and Donald. I mean. And I tell you that I hit it good, rowdy style. You got to look out because it's dangerous. Ain't nothing happening to that baby.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah. That's talking about having intercourse with a very pregnant woman um donald's an expert in in in knowing uh wow how to how to be careful wow hey you've had six kids was dr cox's's kids confirmation in this? The baptism. Baptism. Was that in the sun? Because I think... Was that with Cheryl Hines or was that a different one? That's a different one. This is with little
Starting point is 00:40:19 JD. Jordan is really fucking with Cox in this episode, and she's made J.D. Jennifer Dillon. Jennifer Dillon. You're the godfather. Yeah, she made me the godfather. And Cox will do anything he can to change this. He's just promising.
Starting point is 00:40:38 He's trying to negotiate with Jordan. He's trying to negotiate with J.D. If I remember correctly, you just said, can she be named Jennifer Dillon? And she said, sure, why not? I think so. Is that what happened? That is what happened.
Starting point is 00:40:53 That's because he didn't show up for something and you were there. Yeah. I think he missed the birth. Yeah. Right. And Jordan is just taking such glee in pissing Perry off.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And the baby's big already. Wow. It's only been two episodes the baby's in the stroller man sitting up you guys ever talked about this on tv it's you got two choices either the baby's big or like i also don't like covering a one-year-old baby with fake viscous stuff when it's born i don't know know. It's always bumping out. Giant baby. I know, but you have to do that because you obviously can't use a newborn. You have to use a young baby
Starting point is 00:41:30 and they put this like jelly on it to make it look, you can't use the fake baby. The fake baby looks so bad. That's terrifying. You know what I can't believe we didn't do on a show that had fantasies is the fact that we never did a baby being born and the fantasy of it having either donald's or your
Starting point is 00:41:45 face zach and just being one already on a baby did we did we have the was the special effects level i mean we had a plan we saw the plan we had a plan to look out this one right remember floating head doctor is just zach going around like this with a green screen yeah it was fun to shoot floating head doctor because i Zach going around like this. With a green screen suit on. Yeah, it was fun to shoot floating head doctor because I would just put the green screen suit on and just bop around. Didn't you wear that on Conan? That was when I had done Oz the Great and Powerful. And I was talking about being the little bellhop monkey sidekick,
Starting point is 00:42:28 we did a whole bit about how I, Conan asked how we did it. And I said, you know, they had a puppet and everything, but most of the time it was better for the other actors because they just acted on me, acted off of me. So I just wore like a green screen suit and like ducked down. And then we did a whole bit where I. The green screen suit was very revealing. It was very snug. I remember the photos that are online. bit right the green screen suit was very revealing you had to grab very snug i remember snug
Starting point is 00:42:45 the photos that are online are you covering up your junk with your hands i remember being snug and very cold apparently i i remember i made a joke to him because i was nervous i was self-conscious about being in the onesie and i said i'm going to cover it because i don't want the audience to see my moose knuckle and he had never heard that term so he started cracking up at moose knuckle proud moments proud moments for your youth it was really funny there's a really funny gif of or maybe it's a video i't know. But of me like air humping in the green screen suit on Conan. And Andy Richter and Conan's faces are so funny. They're both like – they both like look away. It's really funny.
Starting point is 00:43:38 All right. So gift ideas. Ted's gift idea for Blonde Doctor's wedding is that he got his mom quote, the weird birth control thing that they sew under your arm skin Oh Ted That's funny because he got it for his mom
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah, and his mom loves it apparently Yeah, apparently it's a great gift Happy birthday Lloyd suggests robbing someone's home and bringing bringing all the all of the house's contents as the wedding gift okay i wrote this down and i hope i'm not skipping too far i hope i'm not skipping ahead you're not my mom jim you're not my mom. Is that okay?
Starting point is 00:44:25 Let's break it. It's the next time, maybe. Okay, all right. Next time. That's fine. Wait, I just wanted to say that real quickly that the urologist that Kelso hates and is fine rehiring Kim because he hates this urologist. On Scrubs Wiki says is Mike Henry, who was the voice of Cleveland Brown. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:48 He was friends with Neil and Garrett from Family Guy. Oh, got it. Got it. There you go. I didn't know that, but that was. And he at the time was there and was very popular because he had done, you can still find this on the internet. I don't know if you guys remember it. He started, it would have been huge now before things really like had
Starting point is 00:45:04 TikTok and funny virals. He invented the fake TV show called You've Been Kicked in the Nuts. Yeah, I remember that. You just got kicked in the nuts. And the whole thing was he, Mike Henry in a wig or would run up and kick people in the nuts. And they would chase him to try and beat him up. And he would interrupt him, ma'am, ma' ma'am ma'am you've been kicked in the nuts and then the guy or girl who got kicked in the nuts would be so happy that they were on the tv
Starting point is 00:45:31 show i've never seen that you got by the way i saw it but go go online later and just do you've been kicked in the nuts you'll and then i think neil does i think neil does a couple of them too neil's like oh we all did yeah a bunch of us did them they were hugely popular comedy writers back in the day you just got kicked in the nuts i should give a shout out to neil goldman because uh he's one of bill's uh main writers on on one of his new shows and i got to spend all the new show shrinking yeah sorry i should say he's show running the new show shrinking and i just got to spend a lot of time with him when i new show is shrinking, yeah. Sorry, I should say he's show running. The new show is shrinking. And I just got to spend a lot of time with him when I was directing. And he's so funny and such a good dude.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah, so funny. So you guys remember him from years. And he was one of the people that stayed, I think, almost the whole way. I mean, they left before season nine, but they stayed through eight years. He's so funny. He's also one of the writers. I mean, a few of the writers have done this, but he's also one of the writers that's had major success after where he's also he's also he's also one of the writers i mean a few of the writers have done this but he's also one of the writers that's had major success after where he's gone on to show run
Starting point is 00:46:30 and create his own shows on other networks and well the original staff of that show uh almost everybody uh created their own show or ran another great show or won emmys for something else they were all that the original staff that shows all rock stars. I just did one of Gabby. I just did one of Gabby shows. Uh, I did, uh,
Starting point is 00:46:50 Oh, did you, the house one? Yeah. House pets. Yeah. Yeah. Very funny,
Starting point is 00:46:56 man. Very funny. A lot of fun. Yeah. Um, Neil, I said, we got to have you on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And he goes, what podcast? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right he goes, what podcast? Yeah, right. Yeah, right. No, he was doing a bit. Every time for his name, that's just how he rolls. He literally listens to see if his name ever gets mentioned. He's going to be delighted that he got a shout out in this one.
Starting point is 00:47:17 All right. JD approaches the nurse's stand and says, hey, Raj, rerun. Probably the most mentioned sitcom in the entire run of, no pun intended, is What's Happening. Neck and neck with Sanford and Son. Right. But What's Happening does get a lot of shout outs, including a cameo from rerun.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah. R.I.P., man. He was awesome that day. By the way, you guys watch that? So many crew members snuck into that big dancing fantasy. man yeah it's amazing everybody's in there spiller who's an avid listener our our one of our favorite directors michael spiller is in there i think he was obviously directing that episode he's got he's got the outfit on if he wasn't directing that episode it's a new level of intrusion
Starting point is 00:48:00 just just that day i heard rerun perry's in here i'm i gotta get in the picture oh yeah hey what's happening raj was probably neck and neck with sanford and son but you forget like even in donald's brain fantasy with uh carla and heather graham and sarah all in there and we're inside Donald's brain. The background music is the Sanford and Son theme song. That was my favorite.
Starting point is 00:48:35 It really was my favorite show. Which one? What's Happening or Sanford and Son? What's Happening. It was my favorite show as a kid. It was great. I'm going to tell mama. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I'll tell mama on you. These kids today will never know the genius of what's happening. So Carla asked Elliot, did you do that thing that all guys want us to do? What is this thing? Now, wait. I think it's meant to be. I can remember. No, I can remember.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Somebody's finished the setup. You finished. There's writers from talk about this. I assume it's meant to be just left up for interpretation for everyone's mind. I actually threesome gets discounted because you see later that it's not a threesome. But she says, did you do that thing all guys want us to do, but we swore we'd never do? you do that thing all guys want us to do but we swore we'd never do well she says that because keith's acting keith's acting like a freaking like whatever she wants him to do he's doing it and he's doing it happily to us carla says no i'm saving that bullet for a diamond tennis bracelet
Starting point is 00:49:35 now later on in the episode carla is proudly wearing a diamond tennis bracelet in the bed so now build am i correct that you wanted the audience to just insert whatever thing that they no pun one of my yes one of my favorite things about sex-related comedy and uh this is not the most famous version of this i have been asked so many times um uh what jake character played by Josh Randall, whispered to Elliot before she talked to him. And we needed Elliot
Starting point is 00:50:11 Reed to break up with this character, Jake, who was on the show Ed. Josh Randall, he's a funny actor. And we couldn't think of why, so she, and you remember back in that episode, she said, we finally came up with, she should say, you should be able to tell me what your fantasies are and what you would really like us to do together. And then we cut to, he's going to whisper and we cut outside.
Starting point is 00:50:35 She's walking out going, we're done. Oh my God. My God, Jake. I remember that. Oh my God. And that's when we decided that any time we're stuck like that, it's better to say, like, everybody knows what it is and then just let the audience decide. And then you can judge when you meet people how disturbed they are.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Right. But also, it allows you to not say anything too naughty on NBC, I guess. It gets you around. No, because your imagination automatically does it on your own. Imagination's bad, man. I will say this. You guys have said it before. All I know is that Carly got her tennis bracelet.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You guys have said it before, and I don't know if I'm proud or not proud, but I feel for network television that Scrubs is top five filthiest shows ever. It is. Oh, dude, it's up there. I mean, I can't't believe it when people tell me they're watching this with their kids because i'm watching it now at 47 and i'm being like oh my god i would never watch this with my kid i tell my daughters and i tell my daughter and my son to leave the room yeah put it on my you guys gotta get out of
Starting point is 00:51:41 here i think matt tarsus told me he was all proud that his like 13 year old was watching the show at the time and then he was like oh this guy i feel proud he's kind of circling back and watching one of my shows and then he walked in the room and like walked right back out because it was so uncomfortable it's rough well i you know at the you know to remind the audience that at the time there was no streaming. There was, there wasn't the half hour comedy was, was as I, as I remember solely on network TV and you were trying to see how far you could push it. Well,
Starting point is 00:52:13 not just for being filthy for filthy sake, but remember, I would say the number one show was will and grace. They pushed it. They pushed it real far. I mean, we did, we did have bulge jiggle in this episode
Starting point is 00:52:27 but will and grace did push it oh yeah we got and i i believe oh it's not the final bulge because this bill let's just get to it because we'll come we'll circle back to this stuff because remember one of the rules of this show that I said earlier, we had beautiful women, female actresses on this show and and very handsome men. And such a strong, diverse writing staff that we said, if we're going to enter the world of sex and sex comedy and we're going to show girls in underwear doing sexy things, it had to be equal opportunity representation in the filthiness and in the revealingness. So there's just as much... By the way, Todd in Banana Hammocks exists. That's what I was just talking about. I know. It exists because we're like,
Starting point is 00:53:12 we can't just go, oh, Sarah, you've got to be in a bra and underwear in this without going Donald. You have to be just naked with a sock. I was in a sock, too. It's not even going to work In a sock. I was in a sock, too. It's not going to work. Well, all I know is there was a bit of jiggle with the bulge when he ripped off the frigate.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Well, let's talk about the bulge. We'll come back to it. We were jumping ahead, but we'll come back. So the janitor gets everyone together in the break room, the brain trust. And his scenario, they're trying to kidnap Keith, and they're trying to run him through, trying to make sure that he's going to be a good husband to Elliot. Now, the first thing is he gives an example, how are you going to be if she loses the ability to use vowels?
Starting point is 00:54:04 Neil gives an example of her talking he goes he goes wait first it goes you be the janitor I'll be Keith alright you ready go you gotta do the first part
Starting point is 00:54:17 how are you gonna do when he wakes how are you gonna behave if she loses the ability to use vowels that's ridiculous and then he goes oh yeah How are you going to behave if she loses the ability to use vowels? That's ridiculous. And then he goes, oh, yeah? Then he goes, I find that to be a very poor answer for when somebody wakes up and they say, I can't even do this shit, dude. It's just made up by Neil, but it's like. I can't do it because i'm saying ick and stuff like that but he was able to
Starting point is 00:54:49 oh it's neil being hilarious great man neil being all right so so wait that's the first thing and then the janitor comes up with a rehearsal scenario and the janitor's uh sets up the scenario where keith has brought home his gay ultimate Frisbee teammate Lance. Played by Todd. By Todd. And Rob goes, I should probably take my pants off. And the janitor goes, wait for your cue. Wait for your cue.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Wait for your cue. And then Janet goes, wait for your cue. Wait for your cue. And then Rob sits down next to Keith. And he stands up and he pulls off, like Velcro, pulls off the fucking, his pants. And he's wearing a sparkled, mega bulgy, sparkled red banana ham.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah. Yes, of course he is. And there's definitely jiggle. There's definitely jiggle. There's no way you get away with that. Real jiggle or not real jiggle, but there's definitely jiggle. No, I think it's real. I think he's well-endowed.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Bill, I have to tell you, I thought this was the season we moved to ABC after, and I was like, this is definitely why they said no more Banana Hammock, because this was a lot of jiggle. Todd's Banana Hammock was never visible on ABC. He always had to be shot from the waist up. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, this is also because, I mean, I'm sure people figured it out by now But the writers Had long ago decided
Starting point is 00:56:28 That Todd was We didn't even say Bisexual, we said At one time I think we said metrosexual That he will have sex with anything But I don't know if that's the right What is the right, Joel If you're open to everything, Joel
Starting point is 00:56:43 You're fluid, right? That's the right way to say it? You could say fluid, you might say poly If you're the kind of person who has multiple Actual relationships with people Yes, young and old Age, he doesn't care about age He doesn't care about anything Todd respects hot
Starting point is 00:56:59 Regardless of age or gender He said that on the show Wait, I want to say the funniest, the hardest I laughed was when after the banana hammocks revealed, you cut to Lloyd and he winces. He literally goes like this.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I think that was a real Mike Schwartz reaction and not a character reaction. It was so funny. You guys know Rob is the type of guy that would do it for his off-camera as well. Oh, yeah, absolutely. No problem. He's such a giving actor that he would reveal the banana hammock for off-camera. Doug suggests, let's circle back.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Doug suggests a tour in the wine country for his gift. And then Ted says, we can't control what kind of husband he's going to be. And then janitor puts on sunglasses and says, or can we? Who has the sunglasses on their head? Somebody has the sunglasses on their head. Probably Lloyd.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And he goes, let me borrow your sunglasses real quick. And he puts them on just so he can do that. And then he goes, repeat it. And so Sam repeats it exactly the same. Well, he almost does it exactly the same. He's late on the cue with his hand, but he realizes he's late. Yo, Sam Lloyd, dude. Genius.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Sam is so funny in this episode. Genius, dude. Genius, man. Sam was having fun this episode. He was extra playing. He was funny. Anyway, he repeats the line. The janitor does it with the sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:58:35 We see JD writing in his unicorn journal, you have Jordan call me Nancy No Chin, which I found hurtful even this many years later, Bill. Oh, buddy. Buddy. you have a chin right now you have more of a chin than i do right now your chin looks good i don't have that i i you know i i don't have that much of a chin it's a shame when you turn sideways you're right you don't but straight on thank you zach you and i can't be low angle guys I once had a critic write about me the weak chinned
Starting point is 00:59:07 braf oh god it was so hard it made me so sad but then here I am and my best friend's having a character call me Nancy No Chin that was about JD the character not about Zach
Starting point is 00:59:21 what's that story I know you meant it about JD the character, not about Zach. Oh, okay. Thank you. What's that story? I know you meant it. Yeah, it was Richard. Rich. I have Yabba. I have Yabba. They'll call.
Starting point is 00:59:40 They'll call eventually. That was a horrible play. But it was as good as anybody could be in it that was that's richard's for you guys richard kind complimented sarah chalk he's i won't say which one and he's so honest that sarah said what'd you think and he goes oh that was a horrible play just horrible but you were as good as anyone could be in it. Bill's first AD on the Harrison Ford show is a friend of Bill's and also one of Richard Kine's best friends. And I sent Richard a picture of he and I, a selfie that I took with Ben is his name. And I sent it to Richard and I
Starting point is 01:00:29 said, we're on the Harrison Ford show. And Richard writes back, Harrison looks great. Solid. He's funny yeah he is i wanted him to play my father in this movie i'm doing and uh he couldn't work out the dates but i i i was almost gonna do it and i've read the entire movie with his with the dad being his voice oh it should have been him and now no one can ever live up to that voice being my father uh i just got uh a uh random um message from somebody uh else that you should have on the show uh i won't read it but i was trying to find it uh because he was on this have you had alan ruck on yet no we don't'd love to have Alan Ruck. Would he do it?
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah, he's crushing on Succession, by the way. Yeah, he's so good. That show's awesome. And such a lovely guy. All right, so let's just keep going. JD says he's going to go write in his journal. I'm so tired I could use a nap-tism because he's trying to rhyme baptism. And then he goes, I'm going to use that and he goes i should write down pause for laughs so i don't forget to
Starting point is 01:01:52 because he's so sure that the naptism joke's gonna crush yeah that was almost lifted i'll tell you guys a funny joke that was almost lifted from an episode of Friends and someone else wrote It's Not Me it was so funny but it was Matt LeBlanc's character who was a bad actor do you guys remember this as actors you'd love this they had him doing an audition and he had to do bad in it
Starting point is 01:02:18 you know what I mean and so he's got his script like this and he actually goes that wasn't me and I don't care what you say. Long pause. So now we're at what Don. Hey guys, guys, guys, we got to go to a quick commercial. Quick commercial.
Starting point is 01:02:37 No, no, no, no, no. When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful. That's where The Bright Side comes in. A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that's bringing you a daily dose of joy. I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce. Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters.
Starting point is 01:02:58 We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy. But The Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new, and get into some friendly debates. That's right. Join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice, or figuring out how to navigate life's transitions. We'll talk through it all together. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time. LGBTQ plus rights are under attack.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:04:32 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers. You probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey with so many of you. There's something so authentic about a podcast. It's me connecting, me talking raw in the moment. That's what my goal is to give you, to talk about why I feel that cancer to a certain extent is a gift, what my responsibilities are as a person with cancer, because I think that there's something so much bigger than me. And to be honest, I'm still trying to find out what that is. And maybe together, we'll find it.
Starting point is 01:05:27 It's going to be a wild ride. So I hope that you all tune in. Listen to Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. We actually did have to, we actually did have to go to a commercial. So Bill, thank you for throwing the guests. We frowned upon the guests throwing the commercial. I like that product. I use it myself.
Starting point is 01:06:04 You said a dick.'re such a dick. You're such a dick. I like how I'm like, no, Bill. And then Daniel's like, we actually do need to go to a lawyer. All right. So circling back, this is when Sam yells. Now, I read on Scrubs Wiki that this guy who plays the other lawyer is was a famous tv lawyer uh advertising lawyer in fact at the time of the airing i assume this is how you found him bill he was the largest tv
Starting point is 01:06:32 lawyer advertiser guy and so the woman is asked to pick between him and sam to be her her lawyer and i'm saying you did a cameo with i guess a guy who was a famous advertising tv lawyer and and the woman is trying to choose between him and and and sam ted and uh ted brags my mom calls me thunder right and then she chooses the other guy and the other guy goes tough tough break, Thunder. You're not my mom, Jim! You're not my mom! I got a cool thing about this episode that you might think is back towards the end.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Are we close to the end? Yes, we're now going to talk about J.D. and Elliot in bed together. I don't know how they got in bed together. They were in separate bunks talking about how they both felt trapped. And now all of a sudden we cut back and there's been some missing dialogue because now they're in a single bed together cuddling. Well, no. Are my eyes going bad, though? Was that fog?
Starting point is 01:07:38 Was it like out of focus, like foggy? I think there was a filter on it to make it look romantic or something. There's a filter. Here's what was more interesting. There's two things that are fascinating about this one is remember i fought forever that this show would in any way shape or form be about will elliot and uh jd end up together and the rest of the writers well you lost the battle with yourself bill well the rest of the writers were like, it's inevitable. Remember, I tried to blow it up the first year and all that stuff. And so that's the break room.
Starting point is 01:08:12 We'd established it a thousand times. And we're like, these two are both fucking up here. So why can't they both end up just shooting the shit and talking like it's innocuous? And then I told Krista, she had to find a perfect song that built to a huge crescendo because I said if we're going to do it we're going to fuck with the fans and have it seem like they're on the verge of hooking up Furious and then just go to bed
Starting point is 01:08:35 that song was perfect it's alive with the glory of love if you listen to the song, it's about a love story in the concentration camps. So it's what's so interesting about music. Look up the words right now and you'll see Alive with the Glory,
Starting point is 01:08:59 but it was perfect because it is about longing and whether or not you can be together. And Krista played it for me and I'm like, oh, i don't know because of the words uh if we can use this we edited some of that part out um and i thought it was perfect because it just kept and then it goes black i thought it was awesome yeah that was a good it was it was well done and it definitely builds up and i was like oh are they gonna kiss they're gonna kiss they're gonna kiss and then you hard cut to black and it's like that's a that's a good way to end the season yeah and while we see your two significant others being um alone i know we're
Starting point is 01:09:32 horrible people yeah you guys got a little bit of of horrible in you you got a little bit of horrible in you i mean the audience is rooting for it obviously but um what's not the audience got a the audience got a little bit of horrible in them too let's just be honest now because if you're rooting for this if you're rooting for this knowing what's at stake on the other side of course but you but you have you you that's not how you appreciate something the audience is going i i'm so invested in these two i love them they're both about i audience member think they're both about to make big mistakes, both of them, and they should be together. You know, it's all Bill's and his team's great writing that makes the audience so invested in them and wants them to be together.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Well, can I just tell you guys the thing about the music? Because I brought up the lyrics. I think it's interesting because sometimes songs match perfectly lyrically for a show or or a moment but sometimes it's about an emotional feeling you get yeah alive with the glory of love if you listen to it again it says the opening verse when i watch you want to do you right where you're standing which is a great start but it says right in the foyer on this dark day in plain view of the whole ghetto the bootstomped meadows and then the refrain is i won't let them take you won't let them take you hello no so it's literally about wow i never knew that a couple in love in a concentration camp
Starting point is 01:10:52 but the feeling for our it's a great song and the feeling for our show was so right we did it anyways and i it's really interesting because i always expected to get bumped back from that from people going oh my god what are the lyrics But I just thought the song was amazing. You might, you might, you know, if you did it today in the era of everyone opining on, on everything, thing, but back in the day, people, you cut, if you cut the lyrics craftily, no one would ever. We did, but my advice, go listen to that song.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Alive with the glory of love by say anything. It's really good. By say anything? Say anything. Like the genius movie. Hey, everybody. That is season six. I want to thank our very special guest, the creator of the universe of Scrubs, Mr. Bill Lawrence. But before we go, before we go, we have to cut to one quick commercial, you guys.
Starting point is 01:11:39 No, no, no. And we're back! See the audience? No. We're back! Oh! We're back! See the audience? No. The audience isn't going to like the extra break joke that long. Well, they're going to have to deal with it this episode. I think they'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:11:56 By the way, Zach, are you done with the extra break joke? Yes, I'm very done with the extra break joke. I so wish I had recorded me going. Oh, man, this is why I'm very done with the extra break joke i so wish i had recorded me going this is why i'm not done with it um so everybody just to remind you um you will be a little break and joelle when does um 701 which we did uh at a drive-in is going to air when, Joelle? September 13th. September 13th, and then we are going to be on break
Starting point is 01:12:29 until October, I believe. Right, Joelle? That is correct. And I will say now, no matter what, in October I will debut my new character. Zach will not know who it is. Dan, Donald, and I will talk about it beforehand, and we'll see if Zach can see it coming. He will forget about it. and we'll see if zach can see it coming he will
Starting point is 01:12:45 forget about it okay also get your pitches ready guys get your pitches ready for the next project yeah by the way that might be after scrubs is done that might be your next podcast the making of bill donald zach show yeah hey that's a great idea we'll do that's hey we're really looking for what the uh when we're done with scr, what the show is going to be. How great it would be if a podcast about the behind-the-scenes making of the new Zack and Donald TV show with Bill Lawrence. Wow. That's a podcast. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I'm in. I mean, you should probably do Spin City first, but I like that too. I like it. Okay. Let's throw Spin City on. I like the idea of Spin City. There's black people in spin city by the way the only the only really really white show i did was cougar town was that really white
Starting point is 01:13:31 uh uh uh uh ian gomez was latin but everybody else is called it cul-de-sac in rural florida all right on that note we are going to end uh six. Thank you, Joelle. Thank you, Daniel. You guys are amazing. You do so much for the show, and we want to thank you. And Donald, I love you very much. No, you don't. I do. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:13:55 I want to thank the four of you. You're not allowed to thank anybody, Bill. Great air of my podcast. Bill, usually the guests don't thank you, Bill. Bill, should we go to break? You think we should go to break right now? No, Bill, you can count us out. Let's go to a quick break.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Quick break. Hey, we're back. You guys are back. Daniel, do not put all those breaks in. All they had time for was to go sparklets like that. Sparklets. We would be honored to have sparklets as an advertiser though all right we love you guys five six seven eight stories about a show we made about a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate i said here's the stories
Starting point is 01:14:40 that we all should know so gather around to hear So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Mm-hmm. Hi friends, I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce. And we're here to introduce you to The Bright Side, a new kind of daily podcast
Starting point is 01:15:02 that's guaranteed to light up your day. Every weekday, we're bringing you conversations about culture, the latest trends, inspiration, and so much more. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice, or figuring out how to navigate life's transitions, big and small, we'll talk through it together. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states.
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