Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic with Brendan Fraser

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:36 coming soon. Enjoy. Punctual and everything. There he is. There he is, one sharp. Dude, did you actually believe that I was going to be late on a day like today? I'm nervous. Are you nervous?
Starting point is 00:02:48 I'm a little nervous, dude. I have butterflies. I don't have butterflies when I'm just shooting the shit with you, but this is a big deal. Yeah, we got A-list celebrities. This is the type of shit. A-lister. This is the type of shit that freaking shows when they're getting launched and everything like that. They hope to get a guest like Brendan Fraser.
Starting point is 00:03:04 When Fallon launched, he wished he got a guest like Brendan Frazier. When Fallon launched, he wished he got a guest like Brendan Frazier on that episode. Same thing with Kimmel. When they launched, they were like, if we could get somebody like Brendan Frazier. By the way, we've been saying it wrong. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I got yelled at on the internet. It's Frazier. We've both been saying
Starting point is 00:03:20 Frazier. It's Frazier? Frazier, like Frazier. Like laser. Like laser. Frazier. Frazier. It's Frazier? Frazier, like Frazer. Like laser. Like laser, Frazer. Frazer, okay. I'm just saying, someone was like, love the podcast, Zach, you're both saying Brendan's name wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Sorry. Sorry. Do you know how many times I get Donald Fison? Fison? Fison. What's the other, oh, I get Donald Faison? Faison? Faison. What's the other? Oh, there's another Faison, but he spells it differently. There's Faison Love.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Faison Love. And then there's Frankie Faison, who spells it the same way. Right. There's a Faison North Carolina. I've never been there. White and black Faisons. How are you guys? How's your week going? By the way, Donald, did you know that Dan's nickname is Danil?
Starting point is 00:04:07 I thought that that was just kind of a Joel joke, but it really is his nickname in life, Danil. It's a nickname or is that your name? My name is Daniel. His name is Daniel, but he's been, it's a very long story he doesn't want to go into. But Danil. Happy to do it another time. Happy to do it another time. No, but I'm starting to wonder if we should call on the podcast should be calling him
Starting point is 00:04:26 Daniel because I like to use nicknames. It makes me feel like I'm close to someone. Well, I would be honored if you would call me Daniel. I might just do that. There it is, Daniel. I'm going to see. I'm going to see. I'm going to see if it flows because you can't force a nickname like like, you know, I hate
Starting point is 00:04:42 it when you say someone's nickname and you feel like, oh, it's just not flowing out of me, right? Yeah, when I was a kid, my mom was like the, not the leader of a camp, but like the creative director at a camp. It was a camp that had a boy season and a girl season. The name of it was Camp Atwater. It was in Massachusetts, right? And I remember she went around a table with all the counselors because she had to be there early to meet all the counselors and stuff. She went around a picnic table. We were outside. I was there because I'm there with my mom. And she's like, all right, everybody just give me your first, your name, and then, you know, a nickname that people give you.
Starting point is 00:05:20 So people was going around, I'm Terrific or i'm you know stunning steven and they got to this dude named daryl he was like they call me delicious daryl and i remember i remember being like wow and i and then later on cedric the entertainer has a joke where you know what grown man wants to call another grown man delicious what's your nickname better than my nickname what was your nickname uh my father called me the great destroyer the great destroyer yeah be like oh here comes the great destroyer i was uh i had my head was constantly in the clouds and i had a tendency to just break things running into them arms like gesticulating wildly knocking over cubs and stuff so wow that's stuck my nickname was um
Starting point is 00:06:11 my nickname was biz because it's my initials backwards braff is real zach zach is real braff so uh when I was a kid, so I grew up with Terrence Howard, right? He and I, I've known him since he was like 12 years old. As a matter of fact, my first, I took him on his first audition. He crashed and auditioned with me. And it wound up being like the Jackson's special. And he became, you know, he's Terrence Howard now. Anyway, when we would hang out when we were kids there was this dude in the neighborhood
Starting point is 00:06:46 who didn't necessarily like the fact that two acting you know teenagers or you know young men were walking around hanging out together so he was called showbiz and I was Hollywood so when we come outside he'd be like here comes showbiz
Starting point is 00:07:02 and Hollywood I'm gonna start calling you Hollywood nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah When we come outside, it'll be like, here comes showbiz and Hollywood. I'm going to start calling you Hollywood. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. How are you? How's your life, Donald Faison? It's good.
Starting point is 00:07:18 You know, I'm bored in the house, and I'm in the house bored. You know what I mean? Same old, same old. Yeah, man. It's the same old stuff. Yeah. Well, you got a birthday coming up i do i'm gonna be 46 that's fucking it'll literally be 20 years since we started scrubs when we started scrubs i had just turned 26 so it'll be 20 years this year scrubs will have been we will have been making scrubs like it was the first the first episode came out when i was 26 years old i bought you a present no my wife bought me a present i bought you a present for
Starting point is 00:07:51 both father's day and your birthday so did my wife what did you get me i'm not gonna tell you i'm not gonna tell these all these fine folks listening but is it a donut machine no are you gonna keep the donut machine though by the way we haven't heard the update on the donut machine i think i might keep the donut yeah of course you're gonna keep a donut machine? No. Are you going to keep the donut machine, though? By the way, we haven't heard the update on the donut machine. I think I might keep the donut machine. Yeah, of course you're going to keep the donut machine. Will you post pictures on your Instagram so our listeners can see it? Absolutely. I made ice cream yesterday.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I made a raspberry ice cream yesterday. It was delicious. Do you have an ice cream maker? Well, there are a lot of things that you can use to make ice cream, but I have a little attachment that goes on my little Belleville, and it's a mixer, and it took me two days to make ice cream, but I made ice cream, and then I made some fudge. So it was raspberry ice cream with a little chocolate fudge underneath.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Let me tell you, they went crazy in this household for my food. They lost their minds. So this is a new phase for your quarantine. You become a dessert chef. Yeah. A lot of people thought I would phase off when it came to cooking. I decided to phase on. You know what I'm saying? I decided to phase on. I think that the best solution for your diet is to start becoming a dessert chef. I think it'll be great for my cholesterol. Yeah. It'll be great for my cholesterol. Yeah. It'll be great for my diet. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:09 I am a dessert man. I love sweets. I love cakes. I love sugar. I love ice cream. Well, dude, I made fudge yesterday. To make fudge brownies, you got to make fudge first. I made fudge first.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Oh, let me tell you something right now. Ain't nothing like some homemade fudge. Oh, my gosh. That shit is good. Listen, that shit is good. The people loved Scott Foley. Great reaction to Scott Foley. Scott Foley was a great guest, man.
Starting point is 00:09:35 He did such a good job. Yeah, he was a great guest. Everybody loved him on there. Yeah. And my whole timeline was nobody cares, Sean. Like, I'm talking about 99% of the comments were nobody cares, Sean. Some people said nobody cares, Zach. Yeah, well, I said that a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Oh, that was you? That was you commenting? Yeah, that was me. Oh, I thought you meant on my Instagram. I'm good. You know, I don't know how do you answer that these days. Everyone just goes, yeah, I don't know, staring at the wall. I think it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:05 You know, the cases are all rising. You know, somebody wrote, somebody wrote on Twitter. I thought it was really appropriate. They said like, so we're all just kind of got bored and just said, fuck it. Because people are just going out there. It's rising. Fauci said something like, what do you, you know, people are saying like, oh, it's the second wave.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Fauci's like, what are you talking about? This is still the first wave. Yeah. And it's spiking everywhere. It's spiking in LA. It's spiking in so many places. It's spiking in the South hardcore right now. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:37 So I don't know, man. It's crazy. It just feels like people went, fuck it. I'm over it. And they're going out. I don't know if you've seen all these videos of people out out and about with no masks on I think it's I think it's crazy yeah you know um everybody's gonna live their life I'm sure you know how they're gonna live you know and I can't I can't stop anyone from I can I can beg and I can plead and I can you know
Starting point is 00:11:01 you know say to that's all we can do. Please don't go out. Please think of your fellow man. There are other people that can't, you know, that won't be as lucky as you are. If you are one of the lucky ones that, you know, this virus does nothing to, but I can't, I can't, what are you going to do? You're going to arrest people? What are you going to do? Jump on people and stop them?
Starting point is 00:11:27 I haven't, we haven't, we haven't, we haven't spoken too much on, on, on about our friend, Nick, on this podcast. You know, Donald and I have a very good friend, Nick Cordero. You may have heard about him in the news. He's about as sick as someone can be. And he was, had no preexisting conditions. And he is 40 years old and he was and he was staying in my guest house. He's one of my best friends in the world. He's an amazing actor, Broadway star. You guys did a play together. We did a play together.
Starting point is 00:11:55 He's a wonderful actor, a wonderful singer. People always say this about people, but honestly, he's the nicest person I've ever met. There is not a malicious, weird, competitive, angry cell in his body. He's an angel of a human being. And he was here. He was living in my guest house. He and his wife bought a new house in LA. They were making the move from New York to LA. They have a one-year-old baby. They were just living the American dream. They literally bought their first house, and he went back to New York to pack up his apartment and got COVID so bad that he's been staying alive with the help of machines. And no one knows if he's going to make it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 He's lost a leg due to complications, clotting and such. His lungs? His lungs are just Swiss cheese, they said. The COVID just fucking destroys the lungs. So not to be a Debbie Downer on this show, but I haven't been talking about it because we're here to hopefully entertain you and take your mind off things.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But if you're headed out and you don't have a mask on, I want you to think about my friend Nick. Maybe just think about it, because I think people take comfort in going, well, worst case scenario, I'm 40. What's going to happen? This guy, he was healthy. His wife's a trainer. I mean, he's a healthy guy, and he could die. So I don't mean to preach, and I wasn't even going to bring this up, but I just felt weird all of a sudden not mentioning it. Yeah, so while you think it's,
Starting point is 00:13:37 while everybody's out there just, you know, about to, or for all the people that are sick of this virus, just know that this virus isn't sick of us. Exactly. And, and just know that, uh, you know, don't have in your head. I think it's a shame for people to have in their head. Oh, worst case scenario. I get it. They say it's like a really bad flu. That's that's bullshit. That's some people,
Starting point is 00:14:00 but there's also some people like Nick who are totally healthy and have a one year old baby and are- Who just started walking. Who just started walking today, actually, and he could die. I mean, we don't know. It could go either way. So I'm sorry to open the show with that. Donald, help me change the tone of things by being jovial and leading us in song.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Five, six, seven, eight! Stories about a show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses And a janitor who loved to hate I said here's the stories That you all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our
Starting point is 00:14:43 Scrubs Rewatch show with Zach and Donald let's bring in Brendan everybody let's bring in Brendan Fraser Donald don't say it like that
Starting point is 00:14:53 oh Brendan Fraser there he is hi brother hey how are you sir it's so good to see you
Starting point is 00:15:03 happy to see you too oh man right on so good to see you. I'm happy to see you, too. Oh, man. Right on, dude. Look at this. Donald and I both admitted to each other that we have butterflies because we don't have fancy movie stars on our podcast. No offense to our other guests. They're great actors.
Starting point is 00:15:17 No offense. They've all been great. But they're not like Brendan Fraser level. We just kicked it up a notch. Like Emerald used to say, bam, kick it up a notch. Flattery will get you everywhere. Brendan, we're giddy that you're here. Not only have we always both been fans of your work,
Starting point is 00:15:40 but when you came on the show, it was really cool because you were by far the fanciest guest star we had on the show. And then you became like people's favorite storyline. And I don't even know if you know this, but the episode where you died is a lot of people's favorite episode of the whole series. And so we're just thrilled you're here and we want to talk about all of it. Thank you. You helped launch our, you know, I don't think, I don't know if it, it definitely wasn't on purpose, but our buddy Josh Radin, who gets spoken of every freaking episode, his song was played at
Starting point is 00:16:18 your character's funeral. And because of that, his career, I I mean he travels all over the world now and performs to packed houses but this was the first song that he ever wrote and somehow Bill used it in this episode. No, the somehow is me I said you need a sad song, try my buddy's first song
Starting point is 00:16:40 he had never written a song and we played it during your funeral episode and it launched his career but anyway let brendan talk well that's really nice i mean look the music's important so much in in the across the arc of the whole whole show i mean the choices were always spot on they made you feel the internal conflict even though there there was this comedy that was juxtaposed against what's a very serious environment. I mean, how do you make a hospital funny? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:15 You guys did it for many, many episodes. And I'm so pleased when I've been going to comic conventions the last two years or so. That's a similar thing that everyone says they're moved by that episode. Look, thanks for the nice things you're saying to me, but you're only as good as the company you keep and how well it's written. And some camera things too but i i just i i should say a belated thank you like what 17 years later now for including me in that cast and pulling me into the fold well how do we get you sorry sorry i didn't mean that's okay i i was thinking about that today too i let's take a walk back here i had just finished a run of my West End debut in London in Cat No Hot Tin Roof.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And I came back to L.A. And my former wife, Afton, and Krista Miller are longtime friends. And I had not met Bill before, but I did get on the phone with him. And I recall saying something like, he's asking, how are you doing? We want you to come and do this. Let me see the script. I mentioned something about feeling a little tired or jet lagged, or I needed to get back to the gym. And he said, all right, well, I'll send it over.
Starting point is 00:18:38 So he sent the script over and he sent a bunch of gym shorts. I mean like nice ones too. So I thought, all right, I'm in. When one man sends another man, his shorts, there is no other love.
Starting point is 00:18:57 You know, when you're trying to get an actor to do something, there's always the go-to thing, which is write a nice letter, but I'm going to take, I'm going to take Bill's cue on this and get more creative. He sent you a clothing. Well, he just showed he was listening. Listen, man, I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I got to get back to the gym. Let me help you out. Here's some shorts and the script. That's true. Are you, are you in town right now or are you out of town? I know you're doing that. The show, the superhero show. Doom Patrol. Doom Patrol. How could you not know that Donald? I know Doom Patrol and you're doing uh that the show the superhero show doom patrol doom patrol how could you not know that donald i know you're controlling your mr superhero guy i was just watching the trailer for season two where you guys are miniaturized and everything like that uh i'm
Starting point is 00:19:35 very excited for it i was really excited when the show started i was actually i watched titans and then when they introduced doom Patrol through Titans and Beast Boy I was really excited to watch the show and the cast is phenomenal you got such a really dope cast you Matt Bonner, what's his name Timothy Dalton, like it's a sick cast dude
Starting point is 00:19:57 Diane Guerrero, Ipa Bowlby season 2, let's get it out of the way June 25th on HBO Max, the new one. Check it out, everybody. Very excited. Hey, Donald, did you actually watch the, read the comics before?
Starting point is 00:20:12 I mean, this is the first time a live action thing's been done. No, I had not read the comic before, but I knew it existed, but I had never read the comic before. That's because it's really an obscure property. It was really kind of, it was orphaned. It was done like seven different incarnations in print.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah. And they killed everybody off at one point. They brought them all back. And then Grant Morrison did the run that inspired the show. So the word surreal gets bandied about very much in the way we speak. But it actually borrowed from Dadaism and, you know, what Dali was up about surrealism in the way that this show's inspired. A lot of the set pieces are direct key art from the graphic novels.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Wow. And it did keep its sense of, I don't know if I want to call it, people like to say dark or it's serious i i think it just didn't it doesn't um it doesn't shy away from going to uh the places that motivate a brooding superhero characters and explaining really why and often in white knuckle detail. Yeah, you guys do. You guys are very, it's a very, I would say it is a dark show.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Like, each and every one of your origins comes from a dark place. You know what I mean? Just from your character alone, your character was a race car driver who was, like, you know, cheated on his wife and really didn't give a shit about anybody but his daughter. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think he won all those races fair and square either to make himself famous. Right, just a bad, bad dude.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And he dies and gets put into a robot, and he's led to believe that his daughter is, I don't want to spoil the show. He's dead. There, I said it. I don't want to spoil the show. He's dead. There, I said it. And so he's struggling to reconcile how to be a better man,
Starting point is 00:22:12 except now he's trapped in this steampunk robot body. And strangely, he's a better human being as a robot than he was as a man. Right, right, right. And he's there for his teammates. He's like, in every episode, he's the one character who's there for his teammates. He's there for the girl with all the personalities. He's there for everyone. That's Crazy Jane.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Crazy Jane, yeah. As she's known with her 64 different personalities that you get to know. All with superpowers, too. That's a dope superpower. That dope you could 64 different powers that's pretty dope anyway i'm a fan of the show brendan did you read um comic books when you were a kid i had a anthology of superman i uh i tried to get into batman because all the cool kids did then. And I got to be honest with you, they kind of were formidable, and they sort of scared me a little bit. It was like listening to heavy metal music,
Starting point is 00:23:14 and you're not ready for it to me. And so, I mean, I like them for sure. But my speed was more like Dennis the Menace and richie rich yeah i read i would read archie little archie yeah little archie look um yeah so i guess in short no not really but then i mean when this came along um it's kind of a yeah i i would want to be a part of this because i'm not sure if if risks like this get taken that frequently. And I'm no aficionado in the world of comics and that kind of thing. But I know that it's a piece, and Donald just touched on this, that everyone comes from
Starting point is 00:23:54 some horrible accident that occurred to them prior to them being introduced to our audience. And that's the reason why they have to build better lives through it. Although they bicker with one another and they hate one another, but they can't be apart and they don't function without one another. Kind of like scrubs, I should say. Yeah. The very theme song is I can't do this all on my own. Can't do this all on my own. And yeah, it's about the camaraderie. You know, you had the most epic career. I was just scrolling your IMDb page just before you came on because I wanted to just kind of glance at everything. I mean, you have the kind
Starting point is 00:24:31 of career that actors dream of having from really cool artistic indies to the biggest tentpole movies ever. I mean, when you look back on things, is there, is there a favorite or is it all kind of like, I mean, for us, I mean, Donald and I look back at scrubs. We haven't had a fraction of the career you've had, but I mean, we look back and go, okay, we've had lots of fun experiences, but scrubs was like one of the best experience of our lives. Is there a project that you look back on that and go, you know, I've done a lot of cool things, but this one in particular was like, holy shit, that changed my life. Or this.
Starting point is 00:25:12 If I had to name something that really changed my life, for better or worse, I'd have to say it was around 2000. Sorry, like 1999. It was the mummy pictures. Everybody saw those. And still, they have a resonance. It's just, you know, my done luck that the lore of an Egyptian mummy wrapped up for several thousand years looking for his girlfriend is an enduring theme that we just love to do over and over and over again. So, you know, I had that going for it. think of a film there that that made me feel like it changed i i worked with uh i worked with michael caine in in vietnam on a picture called the quiet american and it was um a pretty good adaptation um christopher hampton wrote it um of the of the novel um and we shot in vietnam and uh at that time no western film had been made in in vietnam i mean if you saw a movie that was a war picture or something it was in malaysia or
Starting point is 00:26:14 thailand or doubled somewhere else in south pacific or the jungles but we uh had the good fortune and um to actually be there and it was exciting for the reasons that it really pushed back at, as the novel did, that American foreign policy was, you know, blessed in the world. And the reality is, no, it's not. not um the the picture itself um i can say confidently was put on the chopping block by um miramax when it came out september 11th had transpired and uh in the i don't want to say his name but the boss of that company said i don't want to do anything wrong for the american people wow and we never really knew what that meant and uh michael took the picture to toronto international film festival and gave it in an audience there and that's when it um really
Starting point is 00:27:19 started to take off and the washington post wrote a piece called Let the Quiet American Speak. And, you know, in other words, you don't need to sugarcoat this. You don't have to treat us like children. We should know. I mean, these are things that we do have to discuss that has not changed then and it can't change now. I mean, so to be a part of that, I guess I felt I was in good company and I felt like I had a chance to be a part of a picture that would, you know, in its own way, change the world.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Now, movies do or they don't. And that's the hope and the aspiration, but it did fulfill something for me that, um, was, was meaningful. And if it didn't find its audience at that time, um, there's always the notion of feeling that it will do in the future. And I think it still holds up. You're going to have a lot of people watching it now because it's one of yours i haven't seen and i'm definitely curious and uh and we have a handful of people listening to this i'm sure we'll check it out i loved uh one of your early films school ties was yeah i was about to say that oh man that movie hit me at the right age man and i i thought especially being a young jewish man that you are of course and we didn't and i didn't feel like i
Starting point is 00:28:43 looked like brendan you know i was like there i am look how handsome i'm being represented but but uh but i mean your performance in that movie as a young actor i mean i think everyone in the world was like you know everyone who loves movies was like oh shit look at this new guy i thought you really really were great in that movie well thanks it was sort of the diner casting yeah of its day in a way ben affleck matt damon right uh the list is ridiculous uh so many people uh chris o'donnell anthony rap like just ridiculous we um at that time had no idea what we were doing we had an abundance of enthusiasm probably the most important thing to us is getting the producer to provide us breakfast in the morning before we had to play football all day although they did not you know i mean and and still at that time
Starting point is 00:29:37 i look at it and i think i don't i really don't know that much about that guy anymore i i you know i i just see um i i i see i see a cast who very hopeful but but at the same time we all have this sort of tenuous is this it kind of feeling right as you do when you're first starting out yeah in in this industry yeah um so but for that rather than you know turning inward we just swung for the fences and hoped for the best for whatever the film would result in. Well, it was really great. Oh, thanks, man. Donald and I both remember that film fondly. We've talked about it before.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And Donald, you also began your career in a football film. Yeah, I did. It was called Remember the Titans. Have you watched it yet? No, it's on my to do list you're an asshole man I'm going to watch Quiet American before I have to tell you that's fine
Starting point is 00:30:31 but these are the issues that I'm having now let me tell you what happens don't fight in front of our guests don't fight in front of company let me finish is this because I didn't fucking read Garden State when you gave me the I was in the shower and I was thinking
Starting point is 00:30:48 you know I've done some projects and Zach's never seen any of them I wonder if you've seen what was the movie you were in where the famous rapper was a postman he's called next day first of all
Starting point is 00:31:05 it was next day air yeah I saw next day air second of all the only reason why you saw next day air is because I invited you over for a screening at my house
Starting point is 00:31:12 with all the producers and everything yeah that was a good one I liked that one oh boy who was the rapper I forgot he was really good
Starting point is 00:31:17 Mos Def man you know who Mos Def is Mos Def's a good actor he did a good job in that movie I worked with Mos Def what's that I worked with Mos Def once in a really obscure movie that's shot in Sao Paulo, Brazil.
Starting point is 00:31:30 It was called Journey to the End of the Night. And he played a Nigerian dishwasher who gets roped into running a huge suitcase of cocaine in this sort of impossible scenario that he just can't win from. He was so good. I mean, he was. What was the name of the movie? Journey to the End of the Night. Journey to the End of the Night.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I'm going to watch that too. I'm going to watch. Yassine Bey in Journey to the End of the Night. I'm going to watch that too. So sorry, but Titans got moved down another rung because I've got two more films. Let me tell you what happens in my house. You have dinner. What are we going to watch tonight, right?
Starting point is 00:32:08 I don't know if this happens to anybody else. Donald Faison and Remember the Titans. Now, let me tell you, I just want to know if this happens in any of your houses. You have a list of like 1,000 classics you want to watch. You have a list of like your friends' movies you want to watch. You've got a list of movies you read online that everyone's talking about. And then you get out there and you're tired and you had a glass of wine and you're like and it's
Starting point is 00:32:29 hgtv time yeah right right top chef top chef i watch top chef listen i could be a cook now because i watch so much top chef hold on you said it's friend movies that your friends are in and you look at the classics and everything like that. Dude, you can knock two out with one stone. It's a motherfucking classic. One. Two, your friend is in it. So, dude, let's get to the...
Starting point is 00:32:54 What are we waiting for? We're going to do it. Right after Quiet American, I'm going to do it. All right? I promise you, this is a commitment. You're lying, but okay. You've been saying this for years. I just want you to know that.
Starting point is 00:33:09 For years. Listen, we don't have since i go ahead we don't have brendan forever because he has to feed his children so i want to move quickly we're going to take a quick break we're going to come back and then we're going to go through the episode because i want to talk this episode has so much in it and brendan you probably don't even know this but there's so many things in this particular episode that that became through lines for the whole series, including when you picked me up and I yelled eagle, the acapella group, Bob Zeltzer, your cancer doctor. All right, we'll be right back. When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it's powerful. That's where The Bright Side comes in. A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that's bringing you a daily dose of joy.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce. Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters. We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy. But The Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new and get into some friendly debates. That's right. Join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice, or figuring out
Starting point is 00:34:22 how to navigate life's transitions, We'll talk through it all together. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I used to have so many men. How this beguiling woman in her 50s. She looked like a million bucks. With zero qualifications. She had a Harvard plaque.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents. She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway. Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion. That this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About $6 million. Approximately $11 million. Nearly $10 million was all gone. Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry. She would probably have sex with one of her clients. Hide your money in your old rich man, because she is on the prowl.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Listen to Queen of the Con, Season 5, The Athlete Whisperer, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states.
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Starting point is 00:37:30 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back! And we're back! And we're back. All right. So this episode is called My Hero, and it's the second of Brendan's three episodes he did. Brendan, did you know, by the way, I know you assumed you knew you were doing two, but then what's the story of you came back not until season three?
Starting point is 00:38:03 Did Bill, he couldn't have possibly seeded hey we're gonna build your character you're gonna come back in in two seasons so what how did that come about yeah i gotta i gotta bill knows the answer to that one i mean i had such a great time with the two to be continued to you know two-hander right that came on in the first season that i was in and then when he called up to do it again i was like absolutely all right you know you it was because i had such a great time working you guys right on you and you and you brought something to the table that a lot of that went on for a really long time also uh you your camera when you brought your uh camera to look at this look zach has a camera just like that now i'm holding up i'm holding up my my polaroid uh 110a that i would not have purchased uh without brendan so
Starting point is 00:38:53 i want you to know i brendan and i are both uh brendan chris de miller and i are all camera geeks we all uh collect them but i was never into old polaroid cameras until i met brendan and all and if you guys are watching the episode and you see him shooting all these Polaroids, that was inspired by Brendan. Those are all his pictures you're looking at. And I got so into Polaroid photography because of you, Brendan. And for the 20 years since I've seen you, I can't tell you how many different Polaroid cameras I've bought and collected. And Donald was saying on another podcast,
Starting point is 00:39:28 he goes, why do I have so many like professional quality Polaroids of myself? And I'm like, that's because of Brendan, because Krista and I both got so into it. We've taken so many pictures of them. Yeah, I have a lot of them. Sit in a closet or on the shelf right now because the film's so hard to find.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I know, you can get it online if you buy it. Actually, knowing that you were coming on, I haven't used it in a while, but knowing you were coming on, I was like looking online where I can find it. Fuji still makes the film. Fuji still makes a good pack film. Impossible Project is another one. Yes, but for those of you who want to get into this hobby, Fuji FP100 is the go-to, right, Brennan? That's like the last one. Yes, but for those of you who want to get into this hobby, Fuji FP100 is the go-to, right, Brendan? That's like the last one. Let me just geek out.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I put my glasses on. Fuji FP100. I just gave him a shout-out. This should be a sponsor. So, Brendan, when you pick me up at 133 in this kid's room now i can't imagine you even could could know this story but the fans i've watched eight seasons know when you pick me up and spun me the first thing i say that made me laugh was i go faster because the whole the whole gag is that jd is such a nerd that at first he's like no no no no and then then he's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And then he's like, he's a kid. And then you're spitting me, you're spitting me. And on one last take, I thought, oh, it would be extra dorky if J.D. pretended he was soaring like an eagle. And then I just went, eagle! Which became, bizarrely, a huge runner throughout the whole season of a series of the show. Don would pick me up, and I'd yell eagle, and it became a running thing. It became his what you talking about Willis. It became my what you talking about Willis.
Starting point is 00:41:12 It became my catchphrase. You lifted me into my – it's like in Dirty Dancing doing the lift. You lifted me into my catchphrase. Eagle! Well, thank you. Thanks very, very much. No, everywhere I go. I particularly liked
Starting point is 00:41:29 your shower shorts, if I remember correctly. Yes. For the man who has nothing to hide, but still wants to. Still wants, and it had a,
Starting point is 00:41:37 did it have a wallet? And then you hold it out, you let it go, and there's this sort of like sound off camera, and you just wince a bit. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Exactly. But I mean, everywhere I go in my life, and I've been traveled all around the world, I will have people yell eagle at me as I walk down the street. It's forever. It's forever. Yeah. All because of this moment at 1 minute 38. And then Krista goes for a spin. Yeah. I wonder if Krista liked that.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I have a feeling Krista wasn't too fond of the spinning part. I bet she liked it because it was Brendan. If it was anybody else, she would have been like, get the fuck out of here. There's no way. There's no way. I can't imagine Bill writing an episode. If Bill put any other character, picks up Krista and spins her, she would have
Starting point is 00:42:19 been like, no, fuck that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Tingle and Majiblets giblets what i laughed out loud uh at that i don't like too much freedom down there it makes me tingle in my giblets i think i may have made that one up because i don't think bill would have written giblets but um brendan you found a way with this character to bring out something, you know, Johnny C had yet to really warm up to anybody. His character, Dr. Cox, is playing, he's such a tough alpha guy. And then with your character, we see the friendship that J.D. and Turk have mirrored a bit. We see, oh, there is a guy out there who's silly and who's goofy and is out there who's kind of like his JD, if you will.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Do you know what I mean? Like you brought out the silly side of a guy the audience has only known as someone who's so serious and aggro. Right. He was just like Johnny C. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Although Johnny's a smidgen nicer. Right. Absolute heart of gold. Yeah. Did you know Johnny before this? Had you guys worked together? No, we had not met before. I'd seen him in films that he'd made
Starting point is 00:43:45 and um but i think i met him on the day to tell you the truth the day uh there was a nail in my hand yeah a board right yeah that was the first episode before this one correctly i think we met like maybe three minutes earlier than that but um wow wow it's because he doesn't take much time in the makeup chair i learned he just kind of walks in scrubs his head yeah and then makes like these sort of animal grunt noises yeah and puts product in it and does it again yeah like does like elaborate clicking and snapping with his fingers and then he takes off he's good to go I had to show up like, you know, an hour early with Krista so we could, you know, get our strand by strand done. Just perfect. Donald went through.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Donald went through. Donald. Colin Farrell was on the show. And I think it was him, right? Donald, you didn't want any makeup. Oh, yeah. Because he looks like Colin Farrell. And then Donald was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:44:43 I'm going to start doing that. I don't need makeup either. If it's good enough for Colin Farrell. And then Donald was like, you know what? I'm going to start doing that. I don't need makeup either. If it's good enough for Colin Farrell, it's good enough for me. Yeah, and Donald was showing off, like, I don't need makeup either. And then we did one episode, and the next week, Donald was like, I'm going to go back to the makeup room. I'm going to go back to the makeup room. I'm going to go back to the makeup room.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Speaking of makeup, is that you in the costume all the time, or do they have a stand-in for you, or do you have to do makeup every day like that? Which costume? I've had a lot of weird ones, and I've had some that weren't even a costume at all. Oh, for Doom Patrol. Oh, no. That's voiced by Riley Shanahan. I mean, I'm voicing the character.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Riley Shanahan wears the suit. He is a wonderful comedic performer with fantastic timing. And he's full on playing the character through a mask. Yeah. And he does the heavy lifting there. I mean, I show up in an episode or two wearing pieces of that because, like I said, it breaks a lot of rules and makes its own. The way the show unfolds. pieces of that because like I said it it borrowed it breaks a lot of rules and makes its own the way this show um unfolds but otherwise no I'm it's like I gotta I gotta I gotta be clear with you
Starting point is 00:45:50 it's like it's like a dream job somebody else wears the thing shows up for you in in recent months I don't even go inside the studio like we all don't you're sitting in your closet right now I've been doing ADR on a cell phone. It's weird days for our business. But on the other hand, like, don't tell anybody. This is actually primo. I know. I think that's the case. I'm not wearing pants.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I think that's the case with Mandalorian, too, you know, because that's all stuntmen. Right. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean. Do they tell you not to talk about it though do they do the producers want you to be like uh no brendan's in the suit no no way i would never do that that's not fair to riley i mean and i i am i'm 51 now this this guy is like built like a tree
Starting point is 00:46:40 and that thing is that those robot suits and all that all that like you know dc comic and marvel comic those outfits those super suits they're heavy they really are suit performers are really unsung heroes i've worked with many i worked with them on on i'll say the titles george of the jungle the guys in the gorilla suits are amazing they're they're i mean they they they really take simian behavior seriously and um i I mean, it's a dingbat comedy. But at the same time, no, they were quite specific about what they needed and how they would move as a troop. I mean – Can you tell Donald and I how to get in that kind of shape if we ever wanted to try?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Because you're pretty ripped in that movie. Yeah, go back in time and eat nothing but like broccoli and styrofoam lift weights until you puke yeah and then go wash your mouth out and keep doing it you know i want i was once in the gym and a gym in in uh and arnold schwarzenegger walked into the gym to sort of inspect it i guess his friend owned it or something and he was still the governor and he walked over to me. I was on one of the benches. And I don't know if he recognized me as an actor
Starting point is 00:47:51 or if he was just sort of like talking to me as a citizen, like, hello, what's your goals with your workout? And I was so starstruck. And I was like, oh, well, I guess I just kind of want to look like brad pitt in fight club and he goes and he goes you need to eat a lot of carrots that's all carrots so for like the next two months i was just like fucking pounding carrots and uh it never happened get ripped no i mean it never happened. It never happened. I never got pit and fight club. Orange skin. Yeah, you got orange. You definitely got orange.
Starting point is 00:48:27 That's for sure. Eats a lot of carrots. And then he just moved on to somebody else. You eat a lot of broccoli. You. You eat a lot of kumquats. And you eat the squash. You.
Starting point is 00:48:42 He's walking around to each person in the gym being, for you, broccoli. For you, carrots. For you, peas. How long would you train for something like that? I mean, the mummy, too. I know you're in sick shape. Would you go through big training
Starting point is 00:48:58 periods? If I recall, it was all in, it's like a year. Then you do maintenance and blah, blah. But, you know, I haven't asked about this frequently over the years, and I really don't know the answer because everyone's body is so different. And I almost feel reticent to say, well, this is what I did, because then people want to emulate or do that,
Starting point is 00:49:22 and it might not be right for them but i guess if i'd be honest it's just uh just uh just just get it over with and lift weights i guess if yeah but the thing is if there's wear and tear on your joints your spine i i became really proficient with ice bags like really talk about nerdy camera geek. I was like nerdy ice cube geek. And, and, you know, it's a lot to keep, it's a lot to keep up. It's a lot to ask of, of your body. And I, I have to say with confidence that I felt a sense of relief when it wasn't something that was expected of me. That wasn't exactly what, you know, I'm known for, or I, I was happy to say that someone else's job right now, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:50:13 and, and just, you know, pound back the milkshakes. Yeah. Yeah. And focus on Paul Rudd said something very similar to me. He was like, you know know i felt great when i was doing it but i'm gonna tell you something right now i'd love to drink a milkshake right now i'd love to eat something you know what i mean like you're absolutely right it's like when you're doing it you feel great and there's a purpose somebody's paying you a lot of money to do this stuff but really you know living is a lot of fun too too. You know what I mean? I feel it. And, you know, I got to say something psychologically, if I'm honest.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I can look at those images now and think, I see a guy who is still insecure, who still felt like, I don't know, a certain part of your body didn't look the proportion that you were hoping for or i learned from that that our self-image is just really um tied up with a single thing and that's confidence if you have that it doesn't matter how often you go to a gym or don't go to a gym i really learned that it's about the person who you are and the rest is just decoration yeah oh i agree 100 i wish i you know i wish i had that confidence uh when i go places like the beach and stuff like that like i i feel great in my skin at home i could prance around naked in front of my wife and stuff like that uh and i'm confident that i you know still feel, I still feel and look sexy to her. Uh, when you go to the beach though, and, and there's a, and there's a, you know, a stigmatism of how everybody's supposed to look and you don't necessarily fit that type. It's like, wait a second. You know, I don't
Starting point is 00:51:57 necessarily want to take my shirt off and jump into the water now. You know what I mean? Uh, I have, I have, I have real issues when it comes to that. I remember working so hard to get in shape and look a certain way. You know, just like you said, when it was time for the big reveal, I felt like, ah, I didn't reach my goal. You know what I mean? Right. Then I look back at it now and I'm like, holy shit, I looked great. Not bad. Like, holy, look at that.
Starting point is 00:52:24 But back, I remember we talked about this on the podcast. I just wish I could have been present when I, you know what I mean? Like, there were so many things on my mind when all the projects that I've made before, I wish I could have just been, just experienced every moment. And I didn't. I was too worried about this or too interested in something else uh to really focus on you know and now the age that we live in everybody has a a camera right in their pocket and we're all privy to one another's
Starting point is 00:52:58 physiques and it's you know it's a it's a it's a it's a macabre pastime that is available to everyone. And depending on where you are in the world or what part of the country, somewhere in the back of my mind, I always wonder, is there somebody with a long lens? Is there a sniper? Where are you? Yeah. That happened a lot in LA, for sure. You moved out of LA. Is that one of the. Tell us a little bit about the reason you moved. I felt relief for that reason alone, because it's a place that's myopic in that sense.
Starting point is 00:53:37 With distance, you can get some perspective, which was helpful to me. perspective yeah um which was which was helpful to me yeah for sure you know uh my wife always says she'll say something to me like you know i'm just bigger than everybody and i'm like in la i mean you're bigger than everybody in la and you go anyplace else and people will be like damn girl eat a sandwich or something you know what i mean but i think it's good when actors um get out of new york and la i mean you have to have reached a certain level of of stature in the business as you have where you can kind of be anywhere you want um but um i i fantasize about that sometimes i don't know about you donald about about being able to be somewhere that's not uh in in the heart of of the industry i think well yeah you'd get more for your buck
Starting point is 00:54:29 first of all you get more you know what i mean the two million dollars that you spend in los angeles gets you a room with the window you do that shit in montana and you got a ranch you know what i mean like it's a huge difference i would would, you know. I can't picture you on a ranch. Would you like a ranch? I could picture, listen, I could picture myself in a lot of things. I can picture you on a ranch. No, but wait, Donald, I never asked you this question. This shit doesn't have to have animals on it.
Starting point is 00:54:54 It just needs to be a fucking. No, I never asked you this. I never asked you this. If you could live anywhere in the country that's not New York or LA, and you could have, you know, money's no object. I don't mean like some stupid epic mansion. I mean like, you know, you have all the money that you want to spend. What would you choose? Would you choose the Montana ranch or would you choose? I don't know what,
Starting point is 00:55:16 I can't picture what I never asked you what your, what, what that would be for you. I'm a city boy. So I'd have to live in, I'd have to find some, I'd have to live in the city. But if I, if I could live any place, there's two places that I would love to live. One, Toronto. I love the city. It's one of my favorite cities of all time. If I could live anywhere and have – if money was no object, which it always is, but if it wasn't an object, dude, I would live somewhere in Toronto that was freaking, you know, wonderful and great.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Either there or I, you know, I am a huge fan of London. You know this. It's one of my favorite cities. I do like that area. And you're very popular there. You're like, you're like, you know, Denzel Washington of the United Kingdom. No, I disagree. There's people like John Boyega.
Starting point is 00:56:03 There are a bunch of people from the United Kingdom. No, but they do love you. The United Kingdom? They do love you. The people that are listening in the United Kingdom can attest to loving Donald Faison. All right, how about this? If y'all love me in the United Kingdom like you love Denzel or more than you love Denzel, hit me up on Twitter and Instagram and say that shit.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I'm going to send it to Denzel and be like, in your face, Denzel. In your face. Let this week's- I got the UK on lock. Oh my God, he's yelling. I got the UK on lock. You're going to make Brendan have to pull out his earphones.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Don't yell with our guests, please. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Brendan, I know you have to go. We don't want to keep you longer than we promised we would, but we just wanted to really tell you that we love you and that the fans love you and that uh and then i hope um if you're if you if this wasn't too horrible i hope that you'll come back um when we get to season three uh for that very special episode because whenever fans talk about their favorite episode it's either that one or or the musical usually, right, Donald? Yeah, absolutely. More that one, though. That's everyone's. It seems like that's the universal
Starting point is 00:57:11 number one episode for all of the Scrubs fans. It's rare that we get anything else. It's always the one where your character passes away and Cox has no idea where he's at at the end. Well, you guys are really kind, and you were so kind to me then. And I'm really grateful for that experience. And it, uh, it means a lot to me that people still are finding it today. And, um, that, that you included me on the show. Thank you. Included you, dude. We were so happy that you were doing, I remember when we found out you were doing the show.
Starting point is 00:57:46 We couldn't believe it. I was like, holy shit! Yeah, we got a real star. We got a real star! It's like you're fishing. We got one on the line! Thank you so much. And everybody, check out Doom Patrol.
Starting point is 00:58:01 When is season two premiering? June 25. June 25 on hbo max guys check it out and brendan thank you so much we love you we'll see you bye for now when you find that bright spot to help you get through your day it's powerful that's where the bright side comes in a new daily podcast from hello sunshine that's bringing you a daily dose of joy. I'm Danielle Robay. And I'm Simone Boyce. Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters. We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy. But the Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new,
Starting point is 00:58:38 and get into some friendly debates. That's right. Join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side. We'll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you. Whether it's relationships, friend advice, or figuring out how to navigate life's transitions, we'll talk through it all together. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you've been following the news, you know that from healthcare access to safe schools,
Starting point is 00:59:19 LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them.
Starting point is 00:59:54 This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. I used to have so many men. How this beguiling woman in her 50s. She looked like a million bucks. With zero qualifications.
Starting point is 01:00:18 She had a Harvard plaque. Tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents. She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway. Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion. That this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About six million. Approximately 11 million dollars.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Nearly 10 million dollars was all gone. Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry. She would probably have sex with one of her clients. Hide your money in your old rich man, because she is on the prowl. Listen to Queen of the Con, Season 5, The Athlete Whisperer, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast.
Starting point is 01:01:13 This season will be even more revealing and more personal, with more entrepreneurs, more trailblazers, more live events, more Martha, and more questions from you. I'm talking to my cosmetic dermatologist, Dr. Dan Belkin, about the secrets behind my skincare. Walter Isaacson, about the geniuses who change the world. Encore Jane, about creating a billion-dollar startup. Dr. Elisa Pressman, about the five basic strategies to help parents raise good humans. Florence Fabrikant about the authenticity in the world of food writing. Be sure to tune in to season two of the Martha Stewart Podcast.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Listen and subscribe to the Martha Stewart Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Oh my God. What a sweet human being, huh? That was so awesome, dude. I can't believe we had him on. But he's just like his, you know these people,
Starting point is 01:02:24 they just, and you're so happy when they're coming to your life. They just kind of glow peace and kindness. You know, even though we're over Zoom, he's just, he's just, he's just fire hosing his heart at you. You know what I mean? He's got that ET heart light. He's got the ET heart light.
Starting point is 01:02:41 You said it better than I do. He's got an ET glowing heart light. You said it better than I do. He's got an E.T. glowing heart light. You feel it. You feel it. I'm glad that, I'm almost glad that he couldn't stay the whole time because I was looking at all my notes about talking through the episode, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:02:54 I don't want to bother Brendan by talking about Dr. Zeltzer. Right. Like, we're going to have Brendan sitting there being like, I don't know anything about, I don't care that Rob had a big bit of medical jargon. What the fuck do I give a fuck?
Starting point is 01:03:10 I got to go feed my kids. Well, we skipped over the whole Tony Shalhoub situation. Yeah, go back. Go back. Now that Brendan's gone, I can relax. I can breathe. I was so nervous. I wanted to do a good job.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Now it's just me. Now it's just us four. I can talk about Zeltser. I can talk about anything. This whole Tony Shalhoub thing, this was before he started winning all the Emmys, huh? Yeah, before he started beating me every single time. Beating you? He beat everyone, dude.
Starting point is 01:03:35 He beat everyone. I know. Everyone! Okay. Do you know what that's from? No. Do you know what that's from? No.
Starting point is 01:03:42 You never saw The Professional? The Professional? The Professional? Gary Oldman. Oh, yeah, of course, with Natalie Portman. Yeah, Gary Oldman and we've got him upstairs. What do you want? Bring me everyone. Everyone?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Everyone! I'm sorry if you're listening to this podcast on earbuds. I apologize. I will try and counterbalance it with this soft podcast voice I have. You don't remember that? Do you remember that SNL sketch where they were doing like a, it was like the sweaty balls one where they were doing like this. Oh my God, I can't wait to get those sweaty balls in my mouth.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah, but that was when Alec Baldwin was the guest star. But the normal show was like, yes, they talk like this. That's fun. That's really fun. Oh, it's great. It's a Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavor now. Shweaty Balls? I want to say it's like balls of peanut butter.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Oh, man, I was hoping it... What's your favorite Ben & Jerry's? We should try and get them as a sponsor so we can get buckets of free ice cream. Dude, Ben & Jerry's rocks, yo. Listen, I will pay money for Ben & Jerry's from here on out, especially after the whole Black Lives Matter situation that's been going on when they straight up said, yo, Black Lives Matter.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Anyone say anything else? Pretty much. Go fuck yourself. Good for them. I love it, by the way. I'm not just saying that. I really I can't have Ben and Jerry's in my house because I'll just snort it like it's fucking cocaine. Whoa. Do we need to have a conversation about your cocaine issues? No, I'm just saying imagine that people that have a coke problem. I think you have a problem if you're snorting ice cream like it's cocaine. Like you don't snort your ice cream, Donald.
Starting point is 01:05:21 It's the only problem when you get a particularly chunky flavor and a peanut butter pretzel gets stuck in your nose. Oh my gosh. Is Chubby Hubby your favorite flavor, Zach? I like Chubby Hubby a lot. Wow, Daniel is freaking out over there. He likes that too. It gets no play. I can never find it, but it's my favorite
Starting point is 01:05:39 flavor. It's so good. I love Chubby. I like basically anything with peanut butter because I like peanut butter and chocolate in my ice cream. I see that. The milk and cookies is the best flavor. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't eat a lot of Ben and Jerry's ice cream.
Starting point is 01:05:55 That is the honest to goodness. Is there another brand that you would have the audacity to choose? Because we're trying to get them to be our sponsors, so don't fuck this up for us. There isn't another brand that I would have the audacity to choose. I'm just saying it hasn't been something that i have been getting a lot of oh because you're trying to stay thin but then you go home and make the shit yourself i'd prefer to make my ice cream so if ben and jerry's wants to become a sponsor and teach them a buck of how to make some of these flavors yeah so that's what ben and jerry's gonna do
Starting point is 01:06:22 they're gonna come on and teach you how to make their top secret ice cream. I wouldn't give it away. I would keep it for myself. There are a bunch of things that I wish the owners of the company would be like, all right, look, we're just going to give you the recipe, keep that shit to yourself, but you can make it at home. Krispy Kreme, hello, teach me how to make a donut. What about those Salts Cure pancakes?
Starting point is 01:06:45 The Salts Cure pancakes? Yeah, my restaurant in Los Angeles, Donald. I'm trying to get myself a plug. I've never had your Salts... Oh, my bad. Oh, yeah. And then there's the Salts Cure pancakes, which are very, very tasty. But you know where I really like the pancakes is DuPars. Dear DuPars. No, fuck DuPars. Listen. No. No, listen. No, you fuck.
Starting point is 01:07:02 You fuck yourself, motherfucker. Fuck DuPars. Hold on, goddammit. Hold on. I am now going back no no listen no you fuck you fuck yourself motherfucker hold on god damn it hold on i'm now going back to my podcast voice to counterbalance donald's loud voice and then and then mastros if you could teach me how to make that butter cake yo that butter cake that butter cake mastros you remember you remember mastros where we used to go for steak night yeah Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember steak night? I know you don't eat meat anymore, but do you remember steak night? Of course.
Starting point is 01:07:28 We used to legit go to steak night. It is the world's best meat. It is such a treat. We're going to steak night. Yeah, we are. Donald and I made that song up. I want the world to know. That was another.
Starting point is 01:07:40 In addition to our theme song, with the help of Charlie Puth, Steak Night, with no help from Charlie Puthuth is an original song by Donald Faison and I. We gonna steak night. We gonna eat. We gonna eat it right. Steak is the world's a treat. No, steak is such a treat. It is the world's best meat.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Steak night. And then we did the fucking this dance, the fucking Brady Bunch dance. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember the fucking Brady Bunch dance. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember when the Brady Bunch would perform? It's like a band. Like in the later episodes, they became like a band. And that was their move. Like, when it's time to change, you've got to rearrange.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Sha-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Sha-na-na-na-na. Yo, let me ask. Sha-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. What was happening at the time? What was happening at the time? That's when Peter went through puberty. Remember when he went?
Starting point is 01:08:26 He was like, if you remember that episode, if you're old enough to remember, he was going through puberty. And when he was singing his song, he was like, when it's time to change, you've got to rearrange. And they were like, oh, no. What are we going to do? Peter's going through puberty. What the fuck happened that all of a sudden the Brady Bunch were in a band? Like, out of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It was like season one, the Brady Bunch, they're having a hard time coming together as a family. Season two, the Brady Bunch, they're going to school now. Things are great. Season three, they're in a band? I don't know if it was season three. I don't know either. I'm just guessing.
Starting point is 01:09:00 But out of nowhere, it had to be when they were young. Can you find out how many seasons in the Brady Bunch became a band? It's the same shit, Donald. It's jumping the shark. It's like red haired Sam coming in different strokes. You got to shake shit up. They,
Starting point is 01:09:11 they went to fucking Hawaii and jumped the shark. Remember the Hawaii episode? Well, of course you remember. Yeah. I mean, we'd use it in scrubs. We got to sell those tiki necklaces on our merch shop one day.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Oh yeah? One day. When I heart gets our, our, our merch shop going day. Oh, yeah? One day. When iHeart gets our merch shop going. Okay. Someone said that... Wait, can I fucking finish a sentence for the love of God? Do what you gotta. Listen. For the love of Yahweh, can I
Starting point is 01:09:35 finish a sentence? Only for Yahweh. Someone told me they had a good merch idea. Oh, that they thought when I mistakenly said sports players instead of athletes. Someone said, please pick thought when i mistakenly said sports players instead of athletes someone said please pick a t-shirt that says sports players on it i like that i'd wear the fuck out of that sports players i wish what's your last thing let's talk about let's talk about ted's band okay thank you see man this is why i should i should just say what
Starting point is 01:10:02 i want to say because now it looks like I'm jumping on your coattails. That's what I wanted to talk about. Let's talk about Ted's band. Okay. Ted's band is introduced in this episode. You get to see, for the second time, what a ridiculously beautiful voice our Sammy Lloyd had. And it's so tragic to use the word had, but it is accurate to say had. This was real.
Starting point is 01:10:27 This was his friends. All those men, those three men are his buddies. And they all sang a cappella with him. And so we gave them, Bill gave them jobs in the hospital and formed an a cappella group. And as I read on Scrubs's wiki um it was originally supposed to be the superman theme but they couldn't get the rights yes so that's how underdog came about i remember uh that would have made more sense because there's a whole superman motif but they couldn't remember sam uh and his we can sing it on here because we're not gonna i don't think
Starting point is 01:11:02 we'll get in trouble for it if we will cut it out. But it was like, Three bullets of speed left behind. Two powerful trains turned around. One able to leap. Buildings tall. In a run All in one single bound Superman, Superman
Starting point is 01:11:28 Where is Superman, Superman, Superman Calling Superman, human of steel Superman, Superman, Superman Now wait, are these lyrics These are written by Sam and his band Oh, so the song, I mean, you made me think that the theme song had lyrics John Williams wrote this
Starting point is 01:11:43 Right, so it was just Dun, dun, dun, dun Dun, dun I mean, you made me think that this was the theme song had lyrics. John Williams wrote this. John Williams wrote the. Right, right, right, right. Right, so it was just. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun. Right. And so they sang the whole song with words. I have it on my iPhone.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Like, it's something that stuck. My kids know it by heart. So those guys wrote it. They wrote the lyrics. And Paul, as I recall, Paul, one of the members of the band, wrote a bunch of the songs from the musical. Did he not write the Gaelov? Oh, that I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Jewel, will you look that up for me too? This is a great Bill Lawrence question, actually. Okay. Hey, Bill, talk to us about... Ted's Band. Ted's Band and Paul from the band um whose name i can't quite remember right now but we will say it in this episode um didn't he write um some of the musical including the song guy love because i feel like that's a bit of trivia that's that's true also where did
Starting point is 01:12:38 you come up with the idea i mean it's obvious but oh i got it paul perry sorry um sorry guys it's obvious, but. Oh, I got it. Paul Perry. Sorry. Sorry, guys. It's in. It's Philip McNiven or George. George, forgive me if I don't say your name right. Miserless. And Paul Perry. I believe it was Paul Perry. And Bill will tell us who wrote a bunch of the musical songs. Bill, tell us now.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Hey, guys, it's cool talking to you. Look, Paul Perry, um, who, uh, as part of Ted's band who are known as the blanks in real life, this is how Sam Lloyd came into my life. He was on spin city back in the day. He's Chris Lloyd's nephew. He played basketball with us. Donald, you played ball with him. And, um, he had this super talented acapella band that wrote the lyrics to Superman, made them up, and used to do it at parties and stuff. And they were just so darn talented. And Paul used to do all the arrangements for them. So he just started using them on the show as kind of a Greek chorus
Starting point is 01:13:37 with commercials, theme songs, and TV theme songs. So fun. And Paul ended up writing a bunch of the songs for Guy Love and a musical on his own as well. And more importantly, too, the Blanks ended up touring as the worthless peons, Ted's band, after the show wrapped, doing songs from the show and the theme song. And their version of the theme song in the finale is one of my favorites. Super talented group, top to bottom. And man, just even talking about it makes me miss Sam. top to bottom and um man just even talking about it makes me miss sam thank you bill finally where we're in the hospital where the three of us get the hospital overnight and ted's band's performing
Starting point is 01:14:14 and they do charles in charge yeah that was a great moment to new boy in the neighborhood lives downstairs and it's understood he's there just to take good care of me like he's one of the family Charles in charge of our day and our night. I love that show. Didn't you love that show?
Starting point is 01:14:38 I did. I did love that show. Nicole Eggert. Nicole Eggert. A moment of silence for puberty. Alright, let's talk about Zeltser. Bob Clendenin, this is his first appearance. He's pretty normal
Starting point is 01:14:55 in this episode. Zeltser doesn't really get that wacky yet. He doesn't really fly his freak flag. Yeah, I noticed that. How about rob machio with the medical jargon i know man most impressive he really killed that and um and then by the way another thing that came up there's a lot of in addition to eagle and ted's band premiering in
Starting point is 01:15:20 this episode this was a thing that we always joked about was that Rob is the best surgeon, according to Dr. Wen, right? Because he does, what does he say? He goes... Well, everybody else is thinking about what they... This dude's just thinking, has nothing in his brain or something like that. I don't forget.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Yeah, he's like... Oh, I know what it is. It's dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-d We go into your head at 1421. That was like out of character for the show. We go into your head and we hear what your thoughts are. And that's how we, camera spins around to see. By the way, and you had jargon, but I imagine you just read that shit. I read that shit off a piece of paper, man. I'm pretty sure of it. I heard you say that medical jargon.
Starting point is 01:16:19 I was like, Donald read that shit. He didn't remember. No, he read that shit, right. And you know I read that shit. Dun, dun,. He read that shit. Right. And if you know, I read that shit. Dun, dun, dun, dun,
Starting point is 01:16:27 dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, Okay. So when he's smacking the ass of the nurse, did you notice that the nurse got her ass a little perched up high enough so that the
Starting point is 01:16:35 gag works? Yeah, of course. That's the, that's how you make the joke funny. I don't know what she's doing. She doesn't appear to be doing anything. What is she doing?
Starting point is 01:16:40 No, she's just sitting there doing nothing. That's Lynn though, by the way. Yeah, that's our friend. That's our friend Lynn. Is she, but she she but she she she doesn't i'm just gonna scroll because i have the episode open i'm just wondering if she at least is pretending to do something
Starting point is 01:16:52 because as i recall she just looked like she was bent over uh season three episode 16 of the brady bunch the kids um the kids uh they covered casey and the sunshine band it looks like it was a ploy for uh paramount records they were like did it for three Sunshine Band. It looks like it was a ploy for Paramount Records. They did it for three or four seasons. I told you it was season three. See, I had my shit right and everything, man. Did you guess season three? How the hell did you know your Brady Bunch lore that way? Of course I guessed that shit.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Do you do the Brady Bunch wiki? I should do the Brady Bunch wiki. I should. You're so funny. You're like, you don't remember the fucking most obvious shit in our relationship. And then you'll be like, the Brady Bunch kids started singing in 1972. It was episode 16 of season three. All right. I want to talk about.
Starting point is 01:17:39 The choreographed move. Should we talk about that? Yeah, that was cool. Do you remember doing that? No, I don't. All of us are doing the exact same movements, and it's a split screen, and we're all thinking, and it's all the exact same choreography. And then I read on Scrubs Wiki that for some reasons, Judy's was backwards in terms of right, left, and so they flipped her. And that's why, if you look,
Starting point is 01:18:02 Judy's name tag is on the wrong side, because in post, her choreography wasn't right, so they flipped her. I did not know that. I'm going to be honest with you. I thought this episode was going to have way more Brendan Fraser in it, to be honest with you. I thought it was like a whole episode about what happened to the character.
Starting point is 01:18:21 I didn't know that other shit went on in the hospital, so when watching it, I was like like i don't remember any of this like i know that's why i felt weird like i wanted to talk to brendan but i was like i feel bad like i want to talk about the episode but i don't want to put uh fancy brendan through like talking about the fact that johnny sees wearing his actual oakley's when we do the real world spoof. Right. That was such a hilarious. That real world spoof was so funny, right? Did you see my hair? Your hair, dude. Your hair, dude.
Starting point is 01:18:48 My hair is amazing. I took a picture of it to show my girlfriend. It's so funny. That shit was crazy. And Johnny's wearing those comedic Oakleys, but those are really his Oakleys. Johnny sees the kind of guy that really would rock those Oakleys. He probably still wears them. Those wraparound Oakleys.
Starting point is 01:19:03 They're perfect for athletes who are on the go. Like if you're jogging and you have the wraparound Oakleys, no sunlight gets in and they don't fall off your face. I don't care. I love Johnny, but I'm not wearing those Oakleys, Donald, and neither are you, no matter what sport you're playing. Dude, you are a – let's tell everybody what you are. You're more of a –
Starting point is 01:19:21 Amazing? Amazing. Well, dude, you know I love you and you know i think you're amazing but you're also uh when it comes to sunglasses you're very much uh the what's the one that the aviator yeah like aviator guy i'm more way or ray bands or or yeah that sort of vibe yeah ray band aviators but i wouldn't rock a colored glass wrap around oakley that's not my vibe if you if you're playing tennis, why not? I just think they look...
Starting point is 01:19:48 I know Johnny listens. Johnny, I love you. It's just not my style. Let me just start off by saying, Johnny, I love you. Johnny listens while he's weightlifting, and I know he's like, oh, like pumping iron right now.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I don't want him to be like, fuck you, Brath, I love my Oakley. I probably got him on right now in the gym no i want to talk about how not only does the janitor um pick a lock wouldn't that isn't locked did you notice that no i didn't like no one took the time to find lockers that would have even like a fake lock it's's like so clearly not locked. And he takes a screwdriver and like pretends to pick a non-locked locker. And I did- Did you think that it was weird that you were writing all of this stuff in a diary?
Starting point is 01:20:33 Like out of nowhere, like just out of nowhere. I forgot all of a sudden the show's Doogie Howser. And does that imply that all of JD's voiceovers are going into a journal? I never even, I mean, I certainly didn't play it that way for eight and a half years. Right. So? I never even, I mean, I certainly didn't play it that way for eight and a half years. Right, so when I saw that, I was like, wait a second.
Starting point is 01:20:49 So there's data, there's information of everyone who, like somebody could go back in a time capsule or wherever, you know, you passed away, there's freaking stacks and stacks of diaries of everything that's ever happened to jd i i never really understood and it seems that this is the implication because it's a voiceover that goes right in the diary that all the voiceover you're hearing is jd's journal now i do remember that i had a journal um that had a unicorn with a sword on its head and he's there to protect my
Starting point is 01:21:22 hopes and dreams and i want to show that this, I want the record to reflect this journal did not have a unicorn with a sword on its head. So no one is protecting my hopes and dreams right now in this journal. That's why the janitor is able to get in there. But I thought it was funny when he said theater camp, because, you know, that was me. He really, yeah. But that's, I mean, I know we went to Bill already, but that's a that's a that i mean i know we went to bill already but that's another great question for bill are these jd's memoirs are we living in
Starting point is 01:21:52 present time when we watch the show you know what i mean is this something that took place in the past we'll ask him go ahead and ask him formally donald we can do it too-biller. Bill, is Scrubs, J.D.'s memoirs, is it like a bunch of stories that J.D. has compiled in a bunch of books? Or are we living in the moment from moment to moment? Yeah, because we're seeing in this episode, Bill, that J.D.'s writing a journal and voiceover goes right into the journal. Was this a Doogie Howser moment, Bill? When... The voiceover originally was conceived as J.D. keeping stuff in his journals, but we ditched that and just kind of made it – people just go with it. We made it an omniscient voiceover because we were always caught in his head and his thoughts.
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Starting point is 01:27:22 And we are back. And we're back. We had Brendan Fraser on the episode earlier. Nice pronunciation of Fraser. You didn't mess it up for the first time. We have Alex and what's your dad's name? Corey. Alex and Corey are now on the show from two different locations.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Hi, Alex and Corey. Okay, welcome to Fake Doctors, Real Friends. We're so happy that you're here. Thank you. We're thrilled to be on with you guys. Oh, thank you. Tell us about yourselves. We just heard a little bit, our producer, Joelle, said that you've been watching the show in quarantine and you're in different locations.
Starting point is 01:28:01 So tell us what's going on. And I see Corey has a piano right next to him. Corey? Yes. Corey, areory are you a piano player are you a pianist are you going to play us a little something i don't think so but i'm a piano teacher mostly okay but i've been i'm a composer and a piano teacher so that's uh since i can't give lessons in my living room on my grand piano i have to give them in my office on my electronic piano over Zoom. Got it. I truly wish you knew the theme song to our little rewatch show. I love the theme song to your rewatch show. I think you guys did a fantastic job singing it.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Thank you. Really fantastic. I'm not so crazy about the count in, but, you know. You don't like the last seven? Are you saying we're off tempo uh cory no i'm saying that you're covering up the first couple words because there's a there's a there's a pickup you know there's a a story so you say five six seven eight when you're saying seven eight there's a story it's kind of covering yeah but you know it's a it's a shtick now and so
Starting point is 01:29:00 there's there's no way you can change it from here no you know what i'm gonna change it when we finish this when we finish this i'm gonna change it just for you just for this just for this podcast i never imagined we'd get one a two a one no no you want to go five six seven there's a story right oh i can go a five a six a five six you can do that. That's it. No offense, Corey, but I think the fans will revolt because they really love Donald's 5678. They do. They love everybody's, yes. So like I said, it's probably ingrained
Starting point is 01:29:33 and there's nothing to do about it. But every time it happens, it just kind of bothers me. It irks you. All right, well, I'm sorry, Donald. I'm doing it for you. I'm doing it for you, Corey. Thank you, Donald. Corey, tell us how you and Alex started watching the show.
Starting point is 01:29:45 And was this your first time through? Alex, why don't you tell us, since Corey's getting all the screen time. Oh, no, it's OK. I mean, the reason why I wanted us to come on is because Father's Day is coming up. And I said, for Dad, for a gift, come on the show. So you didn't have to pay for anything. I see how you do it. She's still going to get him a card.
Starting point is 01:30:04 She's still going to get him a card. She's still going to get him a card. She's not going to buy you nothing. I said to Joelle, I'm the favorite daughter now. Here we go. No, so I think I can't remember who started watching the show first, if it was my dad or myself. This is not our first time in quarantine. I would say I've seen every episode of the show multiple, multiple times.
Starting point is 01:30:23 And I think the same is for my dad. But we really bonded over our love of the show multiple, multiple times. And I think the same is for my dad, but we really bonded over our love of the show. I think we watched it separately and then came together and realized we were both watching it. And we like quiz each other on little Scrubs trivia facts a lot. And it's just something that we've really bonded over is our love for the show and for you guys. We love that. We love families that watch together and, you know, also people finding it. What's been crazy about this watch together. And, you know, also people finding it. What's been crazy about this new era of streaming, you know, the show used to be on Netflix, now it's on Hulu,
Starting point is 01:30:50 is that more generations keep finding it. And I think that's really cool. It kind of keeps on going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I watched it when it first came out. What year was the first season?
Starting point is 01:31:01 Do you know what year that was? 2001. 2001. 2001. I was going No. 2001. 2001. I was going to say 1999. But I do own the complete collection of DVDs, so I'm hoping that you guys got a little bit of money for me purchasing that one.
Starting point is 01:31:15 It's a sore subject. It's a sore subject. We don't talk about it all. Well, we don't talk about that, but I can tell you that if you listen to DVDs, you'll have all the exact real music. You won't have any weird. Only people with DVDs are the ones with no musical replacements.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Yeah. It was a real good purchase for me. Great. Thank you so much. All right. Do you guys have a question for Donald or for I or for Mel? Mel's is going to go first. I'm going to go first.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Well, let me just start by saying I'm so thrilled to be here, you guys. I am shaking. I'm very excited. We'm so thrilled to be here. You guys, I am. I'm shaking. I'm like very excited. Um, I know huge fans of you guys. Um, Donald, I just have to mention that last night, um, my fiance and I rewatched, um, my favorite of your movies, I think, which is remember the Titans. Oh boy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Okay. Yes. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you. You know what? You know, who has never seen remember the Titans? Is it Zach? Don't tell me it's Zach. Thank you. Thank you. You know what? You know who has never seen Remember the Titans? Is it Zach?
Starting point is 01:32:06 Don't tell me it's Zach. It's Zach Braff. Zach! I'm going to watch you. We had a conversation. Thank you for bringing this up, Alex. You're killing me, Petey. You're killing me.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Thank you. We had a conversation at the beginning of this episode, and Zach's like, it's on my to-do list. It's on my to-do list. Listen, man. I've seen every one of his projects, even the ones that didn't come out in theaters, even the ones that went straight to video.
Starting point is 01:32:30 I've seen everything that Zach Braff has been in. I can count them all on this hand right here. All of them. All of them on my one hand. I thought it was about sports players, and I didn't think that I would like it, but I love Donald, I love Denzel, and I love Rudy. So if it's anything like rudy do you
Starting point is 01:32:45 like ryan gosling yes i think he's wonderful he's in it yeah do you like wood harris i think of it i think of it as rudy's in it i feel like it's rudy with donald faze on is that is it like that no it's not listen are you the rudy and you're freaking are you the rudy because if so i'm fucking watching that shit tonight i have a Rudy moment I have a Rudy moment watch the damn movie okay don't ruin it for me alright let's just put it up let's just put it like this let's put it like this what let's put it like this
Starting point is 01:33:13 Ryan Gosling yeah is effing up the whole time and I save his ass let's just put it that way okay I'm gonna think about it. All right, go ahead. All right, all right. So my question is...
Starting point is 01:33:27 Thank you for watching, Alex. Of course, of course. So one of the things that's just so incredible about the show in general is the way that you can mix the comedy and the silliness of the show with some of these more dramatic or serious moments that sort of center around the theme of loss, right?
Starting point is 01:33:43 And I know you just had Brendan Fraser on and that's a really big sort of plot you know, plot point in the show for Dr. Cox, but of course, with the loss of John Ritter, too. So I'm wondering if you guys could talk a little bit about what it was like to go through the experience of acting on a really highly comedic show, and then have to sort of transition to these pretty serious storylines where the characters are experiencing death and loss of some pretty important people in their lives, including patients as well. Well, I'll tell you, there were times where I didn't think it was going to work. There were plenty of times where I thought, this is like a hairpin turn in a car. How are you going to go
Starting point is 01:34:15 from me doing something so silly? And then I walk into this patient's room and I'm just dropping in for this dramatic moment. And I really have to say it's a testament to the writing and to Bill. He found a way to make it work. I mean, there were only 22 minutes without commercials. So sometimes you'd read them and go, how can you be in this weird fantasy and then drop in for this moment where we have tears in our eyes? And I think we just always tried to play it real. Obviously, the fantasies were heightened and some of the physical comedy was heightened, but we always tried to play it real. Obviously, the fantasies were heightened and some of the physical comedy was heightened, but we always tried to deal with the patient moments like they were completely played straight. And I think of the show M.A.S.H. a lot because when I grew up, we were watching
Starting point is 01:35:00 M.A.S.H. and it had a laugh track on it. But when they went into the surgical room, when they were operating on the soldiers, there was no laugh track, even though there'd still be some humor. It was just sort of a choice they made. And I often think of that in Scrubs. It was almost like there were moments when the silliness stopped and we just dropped in to play totally straight how a doctor would be with a sick patient. So I don't know. What do you think, Donald? I think it was just a matter of really good writing, to be frank. Absolutely. And thank goodness that we were able to cut in between scenes
Starting point is 01:35:33 and stuff like that. And if this were a play or something where there aren't any cuts in it, you're absolutely right, it would be very hard to be funny, funny, funny, funny, funny, and then switch on a, you know, turn on a dime, and now we're going to be serious. Thank goodness that we had cuts, you know, and different scenes edited together for that. This would have been a way more challenging show if this, if everything was done on one, in one take, and you having to ride that emotional roller coaster i think you know as any actor will tell you those are the most difficult scenes where you're starting like because usually
Starting point is 01:36:11 you work yourself up on days when i have like a dramatic scene i'll work myself up and i'll get to the point where you know i'm on the verge of crying and so now i don't have to act that much to get to the tears if i had to be funny and laugh and and and joke around and everything like that and then move into the uh dramatic and uh the sadder side of the scene without a cut i i don't know how i would be able to do it it would be such a challenge for me so thank goodness for uh the takes and editing. It all comes down to good writing. I mean, you can make, you know, there's a movie, Once, I really love. I don't know if you've ever seen it.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Oh, yeah, great movie. But one thing about Once is like, Once is the ultimate example of like, if you have a great script, you don't need, that movie looks like it's shot on an iPhone. No disrespect to the cinematographer. I mean, it's brilliant. That movie looks like it's shot on an iPhone. No disrespect to the cinematographer. I mean, it's brilliant.
Starting point is 01:37:08 But I mean, if you have a great script and great actors, you can make anything work. And, you know, it all comes down to great writing. Thank you. Falling slowly. Da-da-do-do. That one? Yeah. Love that movie
Starting point is 01:37:25 you should check out Once everyone we have a lot of movie recommendations Quiet American Once and Remember the Titans alright Corey do you have a question for the legendary Donald Faison or Zach Braff I do
Starting point is 01:37:40 so for me I love the fantasy sequences in the show I mean right from the beginning they were such funny you know and i think my two favorite ones are when uh the character alex you know says how would you feel if you know i told you i was ready now to have sex and the marching band comes crashing in your comments with the monkey and the monkey with the symbols oh my god and i also love memorable it's bits in later seasons when somebody is trying to teach Elliot and Tasty Como Wife a dance. Alex told me it was the rewind dance.
Starting point is 01:38:15 No, the rerun dance. The rerun dance, yeah. Oh, man. And Elliot is so bad at that dance. She does such a fantastic job of being a horrible at that, flapping her hands and kicking her leg at the wrong time. Oh, very funny.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Anyway. So I was just thinking about, I wonder if there were any fantasy scenes that were like pitched or written or even filmed that just didn't make it into the show that you remember. That's probably pretty tough. It's been a long time. That's a very good question i don't know donald you know that might have to be our third ask bill i think we're gonna have to ask
Starting point is 01:38:50 bill a third time on this this is like um you know that show millionaire when you get we should we should only be allowed a certain amount of like ask a friend call a friend uh the audience no i think you're okay i i would give you a pass at calling Bill. All right. So we're going to ask Bill a third time. I hope he can squeeze in a third one. Were there any fantasies, Bill, that didn't make the cut? Do you have any memory of anything we shot in a wacky fantasy that was never in the show? You guys are watching these shows again. I can't remember any. I'm so old. I can't remember any fantasy scenes that were cut except one that Gabby Allen always wanted to do, a fantasy about newsies.
Starting point is 01:39:30 You know, extra, extra, read all about it. And I think we shot that and cut it because no one understood it that wasn't a huge fan of musical theater. Miss you guys. Love you both. Thank you, Bill. I don't, one thing, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:42 often the fantasies took a lot of time and money. Yeah. So I so I feel like they were rarely cut because it was kind of where budget was getting thrown. You know, sometimes they they would be really elaborate and take a lot of time and money. So usually they probably wouldn't be unless something went wrong with them and they weren't funny. And I can see that some of them took a long time to make and it was like eight seconds. Oh, yeah. That's all it was. Yeah. just eight seconds but you had to spend all day at makeup oh yeah oh yeah there's some of them were so elaborate and they would take forever to do and then it'd be really quick but they're just the the laugh out loud parts of the show and i love a tv show that just makes me
Starting point is 01:40:18 laugh out loud but also has that serious all my favorite shows have that the laugh out loud what are some of your other shows that you love well freaks and geeks is probably... All my favorite shows have that. The Laugh Out Loud stuff. What are some of your other shows that you love? Well, Freaks and Geeks is probably one of my favorite shows of all time. Yeah, great show. Judd Apatow. Yeah, and also Gilmore Girls is that way, too. They dealt very serious subjects, but there's some really good Laugh Out Loud stuff on that,
Starting point is 01:40:37 from that show. They talk really fast on Gilmore Girls. They do. I love it. I love it. They're both incredibly witty. All right. Well, thank you, guys.
Starting point is 01:40:48 You're our very first father-daughter call-in, and we're very happy that you guys are bonding through our show. Ladies and gentlemen, give a big round of applause for Alex and Corey. Oh, my God. Oprah does not sound like that. You sound like Oprah on fucking crack right now not sound like that. You sound like Oprah on fucking crack right now. No, I don't sound like
Starting point is 01:41:08 Oprah on crack. Yes, you sound like if Oprah took a fucking, hit a crack rock. All right, bye you guys. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Thank you. Thanks. Guys, we have to argue. You're making us argue in front of all the guests. We argued in front of Corey and Alex. We argued in front of Corey and Alex. We argued in front of Brendan. What the hell is wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:41:27 I'm trying to see what it sounds like. I'm trying to in my head. If Oprah did crack, how, like? Sounds like that. Although, listen, there's one commercial, and Oprah got it right. Well, she gets a lot of things right. But it's one of them Weight Watchers commercial. It's my favorite commercial ever.
Starting point is 01:41:47 It's your favorite commercial ever? It's an Oprah Weight Watchers commercial? Yeah, because she starts off like this. This is the joy for me. I love bread. My favorite commercial. Dude, yeah, but who doesn't love, listen, I spent a lot of time in quarantine. My favorite commercial. Dude. Yeah, but who doesn't love... Listen, I spent a lot of time in quarantine.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Yeah, you love bread. Do you know what I love more than anything right now I'm noticing? Let me guess. Bread. Yeah. I love bread. I love bread. She doesn't do it like that.
Starting point is 01:42:21 She goes down with it. It's not bread. It's bread. All right. Thank you, everybody, for tuning. She goes down with it. It's not bread. It's bread. All right. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. We've done it. We went through the show. We had wonderful guests.
Starting point is 01:42:33 What? I have one thing. Underdog, great song at the end of the show. One, Ted's band. That's on their record also, Underdog. Yeah. And then I feel like we tied the story up really quick in this episode. You know what I mean? In a good way or a bad way?
Starting point is 01:42:49 I think we ran out of time to be honest with you it feels like we ran out of time on this episode at the end of the episode things tie up really quick we don't even go through the whole chemo process with Brenda's character we go right into oh you know what the chemo worked and the cancer went into remission
Starting point is 01:43:04 it feels like we had to tidy up a little bit so we could we go right into, Oh, you know what? The chemo worked and it went right. And the cancer went into remission. Uh, it feels like we had to tidy up a little bit so we could move on with the story. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot to, first of all, he was only signed on for,
Starting point is 01:43:15 uh, two episodes. And you know, it's 22 minutes with credits. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta hurry. Um,
Starting point is 01:43:22 thank you guys for being our listeners. Please, uh, tell your friends about the show. Please you, guys, for being our listeners. Please tell your friends about the show. Please subscribe on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. Please, what else, Donald? Please spread the word. Follow us on Instagram. Tell Donald that you love him.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Well, you don't have to just tell me you love me. You can also follow me on Instagram. They can do both. They can do follow. Zach has 1.4 million followers. Donald Faison, myself, who I am, I do also follow me on Instagram. They can do both. They can do follow. Zach Braff has 1.4 million followers. Donald Faison, myself, who I am, I do not have 1 million. But you don't have to bring this up every episode. People are going to think you have a hang-up about it.
Starting point is 01:43:53 They're going to be like, I don't want to follow that dude. He's got a hang-up about this shit. You know what? To spite him, I'm going to unfollow him. You know, if there are people out there that are like that, then, you know, that's understandable. And I'm not going to, you going to hold you at fault for that. But my goal is to one day reach the legendary status of Zach Braff on Instagram and have 1.4 million followers.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Well, thank you to all my followers. And thank you to everyone listening to this podcast. We said it before, but we'll say it again. We never imagined this would be listened to all over the world. And Joelle gets lots of emails from you guys. So thank you. Feel free to continue to email Joelle and us to be on the show, like that lovely father and daughter at ScrubsEyheart at gmail.com.
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Starting point is 01:44:56 All one word. Yeah, and Danil, do you want to tell us your Twitter handle? Sure. You can find me on Twitter at DJ underscore D-A-N-L. DJ Danil. That's me. There you go, guys. And actually, I had a lot of people asking for the video of your dad talking to Fox News. So you can find that on Daniel's Twitter handle. Thank you, guys. Be safe. We love you. Wear a mask.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Count us in, Donald. Here we go. You ready? Five, six, seven. Here's some stories. You know what? I'm sorry. It just doesn't have the same magic to it. It feels wrong. I know. You're right. Corey, I'm sorry. Five, six, seven, eight! I've got stories about a show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses
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