Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JORMA TACCONE Wanted to Ride in a Limousine
Episode Date: April 11, 2024Seth and Josh welcome another member from The Lonely Island to the podcast this week…it’s Jorma Taccone! Jorma tells them about growing up in Northern California, the neighborhood thief, his most ...disappointing family vacation, his most memorable prank calls, and so much more! Sponsors: AirbnbSupport comes from Airbnb your home might be worth more than you think find out how much more at airbnb.com/host to learn about hosting.
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Hi, Pashi.
Hi, Sufi.
I have one last thing to talk about in regards to my spring break trip.
Oh, boy.
You're really stretching spring break out.
Well, it's a piece of it I haven't addressed yet.
And I guess in defense of the show and the way I usually get pretty crabby,
this is a family vacation that you took.
I can't believe you're giving me grief for talking about a family trip.
The next thing, if you were like, come on, man.
You got to have some memories of SNL from 04.
No, that ain't happening.
So anyway, flight home.
First of all, flight there, flight home.
Alexi's such a hero.
She really believes, and it was a five-hour flight.
She really believes the kids can do activities the whole flight.
She gets them modeling clay. She gets some sticker books. She gets some mazes. There's three different kinds
of crayons. It's incredible what she does. With that said, kids just burn through that shit.
Yeah. I mean, the kids wanted the clay out before we took off. And again, we're leaving from a New
York airport. We were like 15th in line to take off. By the time we took off. And, you know, again, we're leaving from a New York airport.
We were like 15th in line to take off.
By the time we're in the air, the modeling clay is dried.
It's like rock hard.
So eventually about two hours in, we allow them to switch over to watching movies.
Uh-huh.
You know, again, and they get very excited.
Sure. About watching a movie on the back of a seat on a plane, right?
They all have their own headphones, I'm guessing?
They all have their own headphones.
Another thing we're doing a lot of is we're loading up old phones of mine that are now defunct with books on tape.
And so the kids are actually, the boys at least, will listen to Harry Potter and enjoy.
That's great.
will listen to Harry Potter and enjoy.
That's great.
Also, Ash is only allowed to watch the Harry Potter movie after he has read the book,
or had it read to him, in this case.
Right.
Yeah, I was going to throw some quotes around,
read the book.
Yeah.
I saw in your eyes some quotes were coming,
so I thought I'd jump in front of that one.
Flight home, Posh.
Here's what happens on the flight home.
I got Addie on one side of me. I got Ash on the other. Dude in front of that one. Flight home, Posh. Here's what happens in the flight home. I got Addy on one side of me.
I got Ash on the other.
Dude in front of me.
It's like a three and three, right?
So I'm looking sort of kitty corner.
Guy who's technically in front of Ash.
You know what he's watching in the back of his seat?
I don't even know why I'm making you guess.
Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Ooh.
Now, I'm watching it, again,
not the right way
to watch Raiders.
One seat up
with the sound off
is not the way
to watch Raiders,
but it's so good,
I'm like,
you know what?
I'm gonna watch Raiders.
And Ash,
because Ash is watching something
and Addie's sort of just
looking at the map.
You know,
she's too young.
She doesn't know
that that's not a movie.
So she's just looking at it.
She must love that part in Raiders where it's just the map.
Oh, right.
You're right.
There's a lot of that in Raiders.
Yeah.
And I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark on the plane in Man O' Man.
That movie holds up.
It's so good.
So good.
It's so good.
But then a few times, you know, there's some gnarly moments in Raiders.
And I look over and Ash, who again is watching his own movie, is just eyes locked in on Raiders.
Just locked in on maybe some of the gnarliest moments of Raiders.
And you know what?
I made a decision to just look at him and give him a nod like, yeah.
Yeah.
This is in your future, bud.
Yeah.
Movies like this are in your future.
Yeah.
I remember when we were little, little, when we were living in Michigan, we had a babysitter, Joe.
Do you remember Joe?
Yeah.
But I remember he was watching Deer Hunter.
Yes.
And it was like just on TV.
But if we were living in Michigan, I was five or under.
And I remember seeing some Deer Hunter stuff i def shouldn't have seen and def didn't
want to see at that time yeah that that russian roulette scene in deer hunter yeah i'm remembering
now i've definitely first saw with a babysitter yeah it's funny because i think you know there's
a lot about how hard it is to be a modern kid you know but like the fact that we had babysitters
did we just come over and be like, let's see what's on.
Yeah, and also they had like, there's three things on.
Yeah.
I'm going to watch the coolest one of them.
Also, right, at eight o'clock at night,
none of the three things were kid-friendly.
Yeah.
It wasn't like, go order the old Netflix account.
Do you, back to Harry Potter real quick,
now that Ash is listening to professional audiobook readers of Harry
Potter, is he less impressed
with your reading? Thank you for asking.
I think he's still impressed. I think
I'm not going quite fast
enough for him anymore.
I think the only downside of this
back and forth, or
trade-off, I should say, we've done with him,
is now he's just
charging through the books.
I think he's staying up too late.
We let him have it in bed, too.
I think he's just...
I'm basing this on the fact that five times last week
I went in and he had fallen asleep with his headphones on.
So he's definitely just trying to
grind through it
so that he can hold up the phone.
He came in very late the other night
to be like, I just finished book five.
Can you download book six?
I'm like, go to bed.
Oh, wait.
I think I told you this,
but not on the podcast.
We've talked about the fact
that you had a moment
that Ash just had.
You had a moment
where you told everybody
you were into Holstein cows
and then for like three years,
everybody bought you cow stuff and then you had to make basically announce that you'd made a mistake
and you don't like cows so yeah Ash just had this with Legos he just you know had his eighth birthday
he got so many Legos including from you you say Legos I know because I'm I've decided I don't
care about people who don't like it that way Lego he got some got some Lego. Now you sound dumb. Yeah, right? If I didn't
have done it, the only way to do Lego
is this way. You get it wrong, someone
corrects you, and then you say it. Otherwise, people would hate me.
I'm not going to be the guy who walks
around and is like, Lego. You had a few
of those, where you would do the foreign pronunciation
of stuff. Did I? Yeah, I'll
try to remember. I don't know, but I'll remember.
Anyhow, alright, so Ash getting too many
Lego. Well, we told Aness, and I'm remembering,
we had to tell you because you got him Lego.
You got him a box of Lego.
I found out when I was on a FaceTime with you
three days after his birthday,
and he drag asses into the kitchen,
and he's like, thanks for my gift, Uncle Poshy.
Someone else is going to get me the same thing.
Yeah, and then on top of it,
which, by the way, that didn't happen. He didn't get the same thing yeah and then on top of it which by the way that didn't happen he didn't
get the same thing but he did get so many harry potter lego that harry potter's lego he got so
many of them and he had a real breakdown because it was that thing that happens to a kid they ask
for a bunch of stuff in the time it takes for them to come he decides he doesn't like that stuff anymore and i went into the other room he was sitting in our
little playroom tv room it's a t it's a room with a tv and we never watch tv so it's basically the
kids playroom and he was just sitting with a big box of legos of legos bricks He had a big box of Lego in his lap
and he just was staring at this beautiful box
of Harry Potter Lego.
And I just heard him saying,
who likes Lego?
Not me.
To himself.
Do you think,
I went to a kid's second birthday.
You knew the parents?
No.
Yeah.
And there were a bunch of people going to this party.
And I know, you know, this little girl, she's got plenty of toys.
And you feel like you need to bring a gift.
But at the same time, I was like, do you?
And I feel like I need to buy something
you know
for my
nephews and niece
and certainly our uncles
would have done that
but
where's all this stuff go?
like
I mean trust me
how many Lego sets
did he get?
I think part of the problem
is everyone feels like
oh we need to buy him something
yeah we're backlogged
that kid doesn't need anything
by the way
did our uncles
get us presents?
Uncle Kurt would show up with stuff.
In my head right now, I know what Uncle Kurt showed up with for our birthdays.
Scratch tickets?
Like 10 scratch tickets he got from the liquor store he worked at.
Maybe a thing of pretzels.
I mean, it's all pretty good. Yeah, as a thing of pretzels. I mean,
it's all pretty good.
Yeah,
as I think about it.
It's all pretty exciting.
It's also probably better
than a box of Legos
for mom and dad
because everything
was immediately garbage.
It didn't just like build up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe that's the move.
Yeah.
Scratchers.
Yeah.
Talking about reading slow,
we have a snail population
at our,
at my building in LA.
Oh, okay.
And when it rains a little bit, these snails will come out.
And it's very exciting.
Mackenzie and I really like the snails.
Oh, that's good.
I was wondering if...
Well, the very fact that you called it a population instead of an infestation was pro-snail.
No, it's just like there's just like a couple come out when it rains.
Okay, gotcha.
And there's like these little drains.
And Mackenzie the other day sent me a video or a picture of this like snail trail and the snail had ended up just on top of this drain. But in that day, it was very sunny and everything dried up. And I walked past this drain and the snail was just on dead center on the drain. And I was like, oh, this dude didn't make it. He couldn't get away
and it got too hot out here. And Mackenzie gets sad if she sees a crushed snail. If I ever step
on a snail, I feel terrible. So this snail was on this grate and I took some water down and I poured
it on him and he wasn't moving. And I was like, it's not going to happen for this guy.
And then later on, I went down and he had moved, but it was still hot out and he was
running out of water.
So I got him some more water and I got this little like, it's like a knife, but it's like
a thing that you move chopped vegetables from the cutting board into the pan.
It's like this big flat thing.
And I laid that down, put a a little some little celery greens on it
and he crept up on there and i moved him to a new place but the whole procedure took a long time i
was gonna say i think the difference between me having three kids and you having none is i wouldn't
have gone and checked on the fucking snail but i walked walked by the snail. When I'd taken the dogs outside, I walked by the snail.
And I'm like, I'm just either watching this thing die
or I'm going to save this thing.
And then it happened again the other day.
And I'll just bring a book out there now,
and I have to wait for the snail to climb up on this.
Now, wait a second.
If it happened again, isn't there a chance the snail's like,
oh, finally made it back?
Jeez Louise.
I think it's got to be a different snail
because I walked that first snail a long way away from where he ended up.
Interesting.
Okay.
Yeah.
So multiple, this is happening to multiple.
Well, I do think,
I don't know if we should just keep doing updates on this podcast about that
or start a second one with just the snail cast.
You're a good man.
And I know snails can be invasive,
and people aren't always psyched to see snails showing up.
I am.
I mean, I think, look, some people aren't psyched,
and some people are, like you and Mackenzie, totally insane.
Honey, honey, come outside. The snails are back. aren't psyched and some people are like you and Mackenzie and totally insane honey honey
come outside
the snails are back
the snails
yeah
it's very exciting
Debbie our dog
she always loves the snails
she's
we'll always give it
a little sniff
move on
great
they're our friends
yeah
alright well
for those of you
who are still with us
we have our our friend Yorma Ticone is joining us All right, well, for those of you who are still with us,
we have our friend Yoramit Tocconi is joining us,
and it's a lovely conversation.
He has an incredible, his upbringing is fantastic and a really good story coming your way.
But first, Jeff Tweedy.
Family trips with the Myers brothers.
Family trips with the Myers brothers.
Here we go.
Oh, yeah.
Whoa.
Wow.
There he is.
That deep. You. There he is. That deep.
You got those deep pipes.
He does have deeper pipes than he appears when you first meet him.
Yeah.
Yeah, for such a short guy.
All right, you said it, not me.
I am a short guy.
You know what pops into my head every time I see your full name printed?
What is it?
That I put myself in quotes?
No, no, no.
I just think,
do you like your Montalcone?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know why,
but that's always been
the way it works for me.
I don't even know
what that's a reference to.
The Pina Colada song.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Oh, the minute I do a parody song,
Josh is in the woods.
You know what's really funny
is that recently, because I've
had this experience too, but having my
brother say it was somehow more insulting.
But he was like, recently,
he was like, yeah, sometimes I just think
about your name and I just laugh.
I'm like, what?
But it is such a weird name. Whenever I've
met anybody who has a similar
like, Yohas,
or just any Yuff sounding name, I'm like, that's a bizarre like, Yohaz, or just any Yuff-sounding name.
Yeah, a J up front.
I will say,
Yorma Takoni is a fantastic name.
Also, it's interesting that Asa would take
that position, because I feel like that
is in the
same ballpark of name.
But it's like Old Testament
biblical, right?
I would just say both of you, his name is A-S-A.
Yeah.
You're J-O-R-M-A.
Both of them, I feel like you have to tell people how to pronounce it.
Yes, because Asa is somehow...
Yes.
Did I tell you the funniest one I ever got?
What was the best?
And it was also funny because they weren't trying to be insulting.
But the guy was like, I'm sorry, urine?
I was like, urine?
No, no, my parents didn't name me urine.
But you're named after some, like, a kick-ass guitar player, yeah?
Yeah, George Michael Conan from the Jefferson Airplane.
And I met him, and I did tell him.
Because I feel like when your parents name you after a kick-ass guitarist, Jefferson Airplane and like hot tits. And I met him and I did tell him. Because this should be,
because I feel like when you're named,
when your parents name you after a kick-ass guitarist,
there's two paths.
One, your dad just loves a band,
but this is the better version.
Your dad knew him.
He was a friend.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
My dad just loved the band.
Oh God, I thought they were friends.
Oh, so it's the worst version. I met him because I went and saw him at McCabe's Guitar Store in Picoville.
Great.
So your dad was just like, this guy shreds.
Yeah, 100%.
I don't even know if he liked the name.
I think he was just like, yeah, shred.
That's cool.
He was like, we're naming him.
He didn't know the name first.
He said to your mom mom whoever this guy is
that's what the boy's name
is gonna be
he's got it
I got bad news
he's got it
it's bad news
it's urine
and she's like
I don't think you say it that way
and he's like
oh okay
better
getting better
yeah I think he saw him
at Woodstock or something
I don't know
was Asa's name
just the
straight biblical
or was it
no
there was a guy named who we just always referred to as Big Asa's name just straight biblical? No, there was a guy named,
who we just always referred to as Big Asa in Berkeley,
who was a family friend kind of.
And so he was, I think he was 11 or something.
He was a couple of years older than me.
And actually Big Asa sold me my first car too,
which was a 1977 Plymouth Velare
that he described as Doja Green
inside and out, which is a very
Bay Area term for weed.
Oh, Doja.
So you bought a weed
green Velare? Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Had dents running down the sides.
I mean, so
Jorma
is from the Bay Area,
and along with Andy Sandberg and Akiva Schaffer,
and every detail I ever hear about growing up in the Bay Area
makes me happier and also is illustrative
of the way you guys all turned out.
This story that I'm going to tell you guys
is very, very Bay Area, too.
Like, very Bay Area.
Like, I was thinking about- So you're basically,
you kind of are,
you've taken a different approach.
I feel like you're showing up with one trip
that you want to talk about.
There's one trip that is a long,
it has different facets.
And we can talk about family trips in general,
but we didn't take a lot of them growing up.
So we can talk about whatever you guys want.
I'm perfectly fine.
This is a very Bay parent, like my parents and like parents and like both me and my brother were talking about this.
We were just like, oh, my God.
All right.
So I'm going to let Josh is going to maybe lay down some tracks before we get to your one massive trip.
Great.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, just sort of set the scene.
Your brother's how much younger than you?
My brother's four and a half years younger than me.
Okay.
Were you psyched? That's old enough to know if you're psyched you're having a younger brother were you psyched that another one was coming in a very bay area way i was at my brother's birth
which was at home there's a picture of me and my my best friend ari like just like mccully
calkin just like watching it happen like Like, oh God, what is this?
And then my parents saved his placenta in our refrigerator.
So it was in our freezer for like a year because they forgot about it.
So whenever I would try to go get ice cream or anything, I'd look up there and be like,
well, that piece of meat there is for mom.
What was the goal of keeping it?
What was sort of the end game if it hadn't just been forgotten after a year?
I think that their intention was that they were going to eat it.
Yeah.
That was my fear about freezer was definitely.
And then like some freezer burn.
You're like, maybe we won't.
You have to wait for July 4th or whatever.
They're waiting for it
but yeah they just yeah freeze the burn and then they planted it under a tree yeah my alexi has
become more bay area with each successive birth of our children because the third addy was a home
birth wait which one was in the lobby with because that's the boy yeah the second one was in the
lobby which was she was she was trying to have a New York birth.
And then her women parts were like, no, we are of the Bay.
I mean, that's the coolest home birth story ever.
I feel like we maybe saved the first placenta and had the same situation of like, there's no, in the end, we're not going to actually do anything with it.
But what I was getting at was the kids, the home birth happened at night or else.
I bet the boys would have been, I don't know. I don't know if
they would have watched or not, but I think they would
have been nearby. What time did it happen?
Like 11 o'clock at night. It was
the best because they went to bed.
It was very much Shoemaker's
Elves. They went to bed and woke up and somebody
else had made a baby that was just there.
I honestly thought you were talking about Michael Shoemaker for
a second. That's the problem with having a
Shoemaker. Having a real Shoemaker in my life named Michael?
And your parents are both very creative people professionally, yeah?
Yes.
My dad is an artistic director of theater.
He's a theater director.
And my mom was a graphic designer for many, many years
and is now sort of retired.
She's retired.
But he attempted to retire and hasn't.
Gotcha.
And they've managed to make this work with normal names
like Troy and Sue Ellen.
What's funny is that my wife is named Marielle
and then we named our kid...
I wanted to name our son Wiley
and then name our last child Bob.
Because I just wanted everyone to have a weird name.
It's a good one.
We would have lost our size.
Bob Taccone is definitely a guy like a used car place on Long Island.
It probably exists.
Yeah.
He sells rolls of quarters.
I got a 20 and I just need to go see Bob Tacone.
Yeah.
So yeah, tell us about this trip.
What's a creative Bay Area family?
Well, before, yeah.
So before you tell us about the trip,'s a creative bay area family before yeah so before you tell us
about the trip what were what was like sort of a baseline trip well i did research you know
which i think most people do because you're like oh do i am i remembering these not everyone does
it you are and let me say we appreciate okay some people some people do so little research
that about five minutes in they say oh so it's a it's about family really that's so you're massively massively ahead of those people are doing better than me
i think the better you're doing in your career the less research you do you do the podcast you're
about to appear on they're not doing better in larry meyer's eyes i'll tell you that yeah that's
true my dad is very down on people who don't do the work. Yes. Well, honestly, like I was trying to remember the trips beyond
going to visit grandparents because most of our trips financially growing up, we were not doing
well at all. So then I grew up in Berkeley. As you said, we lived in a pretty crappy neighborhood
in Berkeley. So we got robbed a lot. And which was really funny because we didn't have it.
We had nothing to rob. And there's some really good stories there, but this isn't about that.
Well, I do want to take a pause because it's almost too interesting to just pass over.
When you got robbed, were you always away from home when you got robbed?
No, there's a couple stories where I remember someone trying to break in through the one window that didn't have the electrical alarm tape with this crazy alarm.
It was like a school bell alarm.
So it was the loudest thing you've ever heard.
But if you broke a window and it had the gray tape, then it would shatter the tape and then it would trigger this alarm.
And the one window that only had iron bars on it
was being broken into so i remember seeing a guy trying to get into the to the and then the one of
the funnier times when we were robbed we were robbed by our our neighbors by the way it speaks
to how many times you get robbed if you have a funny one there's a couple funny ones there's a couple of funny ones. There's a couple of funny ones. This one was that they used our own wheelbarrow
to steal an amplifier and all this old school stereo equipment that we had.
But they covered up, it seemed like they had covered up
the stereo equipment in the wheelbarrow with diapers.
And so there was a trail of diapers leading to our neighbor's house.
That was a funny one.
And then another one was
we did take a trip,
a family trip,
and we came back
and the alarm had been going off
for like 12 hours.
So all of the people in the neighborhood,
nobody cared that we got robbed at that point.
Everyone was just like,
turn off the fucking alarm.
The fire department had tried to be there.
Nobody could turn it off.
Now, what is the order of things?
Because if the neighbors
stole your stereo equipment second,
I feel like they're now,
it's a justifiable theft.
If they had to go through
12 hours of the school bell alarm.
Yeah, that's true.
You mean like
if it had been going off
and then they were like,
you know what?
It's already going off.
Yeah, just steal shit.
I think that's fair.
I hope, yeah.
I do hope.
Did you ever, I mean, I'm assuming you confront the neighbors
when you realize they've left a diaper trail?
There was another moment that I was telling my dad about this
because I don't think he had ever heard this story.
I mean, it's sad.
We were living in a pretty crappy area.
But no, there was a moment that I was walking to the corner store
to get... I was really obsessed with now and laters.
And I was walking to get now and laters
at the corner store and our neighbor...
This isn't that funny because I'm like
seven or whatever, however old I was.
But our neighbor threatened
to kill me with a
kitchen knife.
And the thing I remember most about it was that
I think it was our kitchen knife.
It was a serrated kitchen knife that I was like, oh, I think that's our knife.
That's what I remember about it. I just sort of walked around him
into the street and walked to the corner of the store.
Was this your next door neighbor?
No, we didn't confront anyone.
It is funny.
I like that
in your seven-year-old
it's like,
I'm going to kill you.
It's like,
well, I'm afraid
the tables are turned
because you've just
revealed yourself
to be a thief.
A thief.
I'm afraid
your attempted murder
will have to take
the back seat.
Because you're
in trouble, mister.
You Columbo'd your own
assailant.
No, there was a lot of that growing up.
It was just like a... And the weirder part
was we had... I never experienced
this before anywhere, but there was a
mobile police station on
our block. They had a bus that
they parked there on our
block because it was so bad
growing up.
It's no longer like this.
Yeah, it was
pretty intense. So regardless,
we didn't take that many family trips
because we just didn't have that much money.
It seems like when you leave, people take
your things and your neighbors hate you.
Then you need to buy more things.
So any money you have goes back into
replacing televisions, amplifiers,
kitchen knives, etc.
It was an exponential cost for you to go on vacation.
The least of it was how expensive the vacation was.
Yeah.
We just left our doors open.
Where did your grandparents live? Were they close by?
Yeah, my grandmother lived
in Stanford, Connecticut, so that
we would go out to the East Coast a lot.
And I remember those were great trips because we obviously got pampered because my grandmother didn't get to see us as much.
And then also my other grandparents lived in Irving, Texas.
So very hot.
But I loved visiting them.
So we did that a lot.
And then we went camping and things like that.
But we didn't have that many trips overall.
But those were my big memories.
What were the activities of note when you went to your grandparents, like the Connecticut
or the Texas?
My grandmother in Connecticut, she's a very feisty Puerto Rican woman who she taught Spanish
for years, but she was like, had more energy.
I think you, Seth, you must've met her at some point. Yeah, yeah.
Was she at the wedding? Yes, yeah, absolutely.
And then, I'm sure she came to the show.
But yeah, she had so much
fucking energy. And so she would wake us up
at like six in the morning
singing Spanish.
Like,
Get up! Get up!
We gotta go play tennis!
It was like, ah. And I was always play tennis. And I was like, oh.
And I was always obsessed with vacation.
I was like, this is vacation.
Just the word vacation was so frustrating.
It's not, you don't get up at six to play tennis.
But yeah, she was just obsessed.
Yeah, ball of fire.
That's great.
It is funny.
I feel like it's dawning on my kids now that they can use
the idea of vacation as
a way to have the same complaints
they always have. You know, they always
want ice cream, and then all of a sudden we're on vacation.
It's vacation!
Shut up. You always want this.
It's a good argument. I always
like when your kids have pretty good arguments.
And my kid now is starting to
really notice.
If it's educational, he's like using educational now.
It's educational, but I'll learn.
Oh, yeah.
And that's why you need this Pokemon pack?
How old's your son now?
He's nine.
All right.
Yeah, figuring it out.
And in Texas with those grandparents, was it like were you in a city?
Were they out in the countryside?
No, Irving, it's like really suburban,
like a lot of track housing, a lot of cul-de-sacs.
It was always so hot.
I just remember like as a kid,
like being really excited to use the,
you know, like the first time when you get a hose
and it's the hose with like the nozzle
and you're like, I'm a fireman!
And I'm very excited about being a fireman.
So Texas to me was the place
where I got to shoot the house with a hose.
Yeah, because you thought maybe it was going to catch on fire
with how hot it was.
It's possible nowadays, yeah.
It's so nice to hear you actually dial into that memory.
Because, of course, I remember the first time you did it.
And I feel like I forget when my kids are doing it
that there's just no way to get through to them.
Because this summer, they were just blasting our house with a hose.
And I was like, stop it!
And I was telling them to stop.
And they physically couldn't stop it.
Worth it.
Also, because you're feeling like the kick of the hose has power
in the way that you've seen a firefighter.
Like, whoa, this thing.
And they were just like, they were spraying different surfaces.
They're like, I'm going to shoot wood.
I'm going to shoot glass.
Then it's like, I'm just going to blast it into the ground
until it turns into mud.
So I got one of those power washers
because I was recently to clean the deck.
And this is really fun because you can, I got one of those power washers because I was recently to clean the deck.
And this is really fun because you can – this is not a good idea for just saying this out loud in public,
but I was shooting my kid with the power washer.
And it has so much water.
You're like, you're in daily secrets.
He loved it.
I like any activity that's like a parent activity,
but you're having a pretty good time.
Yeah.
Yes.
When our father used to be in charge of baths with us,
he sort of took a much heavier-handed approach,
and he would just have like a bucket.
And he would call us Dirtball No. 1 and No. 2.
And he would just pour the bucket over our heads,
and you'd just get like deluged.
And then he'd like scrub shampooed and then he'd like scrub shampoo
and then he'd go like dirt ball number one and he'd like pound you with a bucket and it was like
it was efficient and it was aggressive and it was fun oh my god i'm sure he was having a great time
yeah you 100 knew when it was the times he gave you a bath like how it was gonna go
i so i last this was last night.
There was a bunch of kids who came over after they were doing their little Pokemon thing.
And they all got Nerf guns and were like,
come outside, be the dad, we need a dad.
Because they just only abused death.
And so I was like, well, if I'm doing this,
I'm really doing it.
So I got this leaf blower.
I got this huge leaf blower and an umbrella
and just walked outside,
clicked the umbrella.
So that's my shield.
And I'm just shooting kids
with this leaf blower
for like half an hour.
God, that's good times.
I'm going to steal that.
I think both of those are...
Yeah, solid.
I think watching a dad
come outside with an umbrella
and a leaf blower
is as exciting as seeing Bane
in Batman for the first time.
That was my goal.
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All right, so your big trip,
the big famous trip.
Yeah, okay.
So because we didn't
ever get to do anything
and like I was, again,
obsessed with like
the word vacation,
like we're going to go
on vacation,
was the time that my,
I was 12 years old.
My brother.
So my,
I was,
I think I was like 12 and a half,
13.
So I'm angsty too.
Like,
I'm just like,
in addition to being obsessed with like,
this is my big vacation.
We're going to Hawaii for like spend some money.
Like,
wow,
we're going to Hawaii.
And my brother's eight.
So we,
and we're going to visit my,
my godmother,
who is a woman named Sandra,
who sadly has passed away.
But she married a native Hawaiian man.
So we're going to go visit them on Kauai.
So I'm so excited.
And just to give you some context
of how I've been disappointed in the past
by my parents,
I remember we had this super shitty
Volkswagen bug
that every fender was a different color. It was super d Volkswagen bug that was like every fender
was a different color it was super dented
it was super embarrassed like that was our family car
and I remember when I was in third grade
I was obsessed with
as I ever could was Lamborghinis
and limos was the other car
that I was like you can drive a limo
I just thought you could drive a limo and that was like
the coolest car
so as I'm running to like my dad picks me up I'm like did you bring a limo I don't know what I was thinking did you bring a limo and that was like the coolest car saying so as i'm running to like my dad picks me up i'm like did you did you bring a link i don't know what i was thinking did you
bring a limo did you bring a limousine he was like yeah because he's a dad like like that's exactly
what i would have said like yeah i brought a limo and then running outside to see this fucking
embarrassment like oh no no i hate this fucking car but this felt like this to me to me because
again i'm 13 but we go so when we show up to my godmother's what i thought was a house
she had been squatting on the shoes okay let me give some context also like my my parents are
very political liberal minded like you know my mom worked for a socialist newspaper.
And she meets Sandra.
They're selling little red books together,
which is Mao's, like, doctorate, whatever.
Like, so, you know, they're communists.
It is for real.
They are the stereotype of what every Republican
thinks a normal Democrat is today.
Yes, my parents are like...
They were, no exaggeration what
Jim Jordan thinks I am.
My mom worked for a newspaper
called Frontline, which is like
the front line of the proletariat will rise up again.
It was all just Marxists, basically.
But to be fair,
they're also like...
It's a lot of intellectuals.
They're reading everything.
They're not like hippie, silly 60s.
It's all very political.
So my godmother is one of these people,
and she married a native Hawaiian man named Michael.
And so there was a lot of education on this trip.
But we pull into this area that we're going to be staying,
and they've been squatting on the beach, basically.
There's no place.
It's drift. I'm not exaggerating. It was like a sh on the beach, basically. There's no place. It's drift.
I'm not exaggerating.
It was like a shantytown, basically.
So it was probably 10 different shacks, kind of,
but they're made out of like driftwood
and tarps that they'd found from the sea in some cases.
But it's weirder than that, though,
because then they're furnished inside.
There's no doors.
There's just flaps with tarps.
And it's like an unhoused person's squatting area or something.
But it's called Anahola Beach Park.
But they have electricity.
So there's refrigerators and stuff in there.
And people have television.
They're stealing electricity from the electrical poles and running them to get electricity.
So there's electricity
and there's an outdoor beach
because it was meant to be a public area.
So there's an outdoor shower and stuff like that.
The beach is beautiful.
But for me,
showing up to our Hawaiian vacation
to be like,
sorry, where are we staying?
We're staying in this shack?
The best is the thinking.
Thinking it was a limo was you being insane.
But now the tables have turned.
Yes.
And then we're staying in this, from my remembrance,
me and Asa stay in the shack.
And then across the road, because let's back up politically,
because this is all true it's like
you know hawaii was basically stolen by you know like lily okalani was a queen they had like 50
treaties with like every country in the world basically that like and then the united states
came in and basically a policeman was shot and lily okalani just was like okay i don't want this
to go to war and then all of hawaii was now american and so i don't want this to go to war. And then all of Hawaii was now American.
And so I can't remember when they became a state or whatever.
But there were laws made that were basically
in trying to make things right,
they were supposed to give land back to Native Hawaiians.
So that was sort of like Michael and a lot of people
were like, we're waiting for our land,
but none has been deeded to us.
It takes a really long time to actually get that land.
So in the interim, across the street from these shacks
is this house that they've been building.
And Sandra has taken all of her inheritance from her mom
and put it into this house.
And they spent like $35,000.
It was saying it was a house is a little weird.
It was like a plywood house, basically.
So none of it's been furnished or whatever,
but they're working on it forever.
And it does have electricity.
So my parents stay in there, and then me and my brother stay on the,
on the beach in this house. But like, there's, there's flying cockroaches.
And like, I mean, just, there was just for me, I was like,
this is a nightmare. This is like, my brother had a great time.
Like, in fact, like I, I have audio of my brother talking about this,
which I can play real quick.
Let me see if this works.
It was like camping.
My dad said it was a, quote, scene.
And then I asked him to describe what he meant by that.
And he said it was just like, you know,
I think they partied pretty hard.
But it was really fun for me.
I mean, I was eight.
I was just in it.
I befriended a local Hawaiian boy named Coco.
I spent most of my days with him.
And the mornings I would wake up, we'd go out on his makeshift canoe
and catch fish in the coral reef for my mom's friends
so they could have for their breakfast.
And we just hung out with all these local Hawaiian kids.
We ended up going to like a luau
for a celebration of a baby that was born in the community.
And my mom used to be a sign painter.
So she painted this big sign for them.
And we went to a natural water slide,
which was these two massive rocks
that were kind of edged together.
And there was this slick moss in the middle.
Okay, that's all true.
This is the best definition of the ages 8 and 12.
I think that's the best example of 8 and 12.
Like 8 still sees the wonder in the world
and like, I made a local friend.
Whereas you're like, where's my fucking limo?
Kids are also younger
too, so he had more options with
hanging out with people. And we did.
We had an amazing time.
I was telling my dad,
I was like, do you remember that beach?
I was like, yeah.
We found that riptide and then
me and my brother would duck
our heads under and follow the
riptide in and see how long our breath would last as you got pulled under.
Jeez.
That was like super.
And then obviously the waterfall.
I mean, it was super like amazingly beautiful.
But there's, you know, like there's a lot of like vets who were a part of this community.
And like it was just like this.
Yes.
Again, I was just like, oh, what is this?
Like, what are we doing?
And then the thing that my brother mentioned there,
the sign that was made,
my mom painted this sign.
The reason that that sign was made
was that there's a six-day trip.
Four days into the trip,
we wake up in the morning
and about 30 police cars are pulling in.
And they're federal agents.
So all these federal agents get out and they start tacking up eviction notices everywhere.
Like on everything.
Every structure, every car, on the house that my godmother had built.
And so it becomes this huge, it's like you're going to get evicted.
It's like two days after we're leaving,
they're coming in
and they're going to clear everybody out
and evict everybody.
And so again, for me, I was like,
what is happening?
On this vacation.
And so then my mom gets into like activist mode
and she like paints this huge,
they got this big piece of mode and she paints this huge, they got this big piece of plywood
and she paints this beautiful mural
to make it look more official when they come in.
And then people start coming out of the woodworks.
Like hippies from I don't know where
who are just activists show up
and start making documentaries.
Yeah.
I imagine it's local news, maybe,
covering something like this? A little bit.
It's the government, so I don't know how much
they wanted to be involved.
I remember this woman named Smokey Rain
showed up with her boyfriend,
and they were making a documentary.
My mom makes this big, beautiful sign that they put
in front to make it look more official.
Then they did a big luau.
The radio station came.
They did have local...
That is really funny.
And I do think that documentaries are incredible tools
for societal change, but it is a really funny hippie thing
when shit's going bad to be like,
don't worry, we're going to come make a doc.
We'll be there.
You're like, we're going to come make a doc. We'll be there. You're like,
we're getting evicted in two days.
Smokey's,
Smokey's on the next plane over.
Smokey rain's coming.
Smokey rain.
Don't worry.
I think with editing,
we might have it done in like 18,
19 months.
Also,
what was the name of the sort of native Hawaiian guy that your godmother was
married to?
Michael.
It got pretty,
it got sort of cheated out of the cool name contest.
It's like every time a kid in the Bay Area gets a Yorma,
a guy in Hawaii has to get a Michael.
Yeah.
I mean, we visited them since this all happened,
and Michael was a big part of our family for a long time.
He would drink a lot, though,
and I remember one of the things,
because we were all staying together,
was that he would sort of pass out and he would snore.
And then me and, it was so regular
that me and my brother would like beatbox to it.
And we would go.
I do picture that while Michael's snoring,
the flaps on the shanty are like blowing out.
That's when the cockroaches are getting in.
Yes, disturbing the chickens that were running around.
But then to complete that, like they got evicted.
Like right after we left, everyone got evicted.
Everything got torn down with bulldo got evicted everything got torn down
with bulldozers her house got torn out and then my godmother and like six other people were in
jail for nine months after that jeez yeah yeah so so the documentary in the end maybe didn't help
it didn't i don't think well you know what i'm they became known as like the anahola beach park
seven or something so maybe it did you know what? They became known as like the Anahola Beach Park 7 or something.
Oh, there you go.
Maybe it did.
And then she ran for mayor after that too.
She ran for mayor of Kauai.
Was the plywood house that they were building,
was that evicted as well?
Or was that more legal?
That got torn.
That was the saddest because then we watched the documentary.
It was only, by the way, it was only like a half an hour documentary.
But seeing that was just like so, cause they got a quick claim deed,
which I don't really understand the mechanics of that, but it's like, basically like you,
if you go down and you say like, wait, we're on this thing and we've been here for a while.
And again, like he was on the list as a native Hawaiian man to, to be able to get this land.
So he, he should have been able to get it. It just takes years to do. And apparently you can't just claim whatever land you want.
And then eventually they were actually given a bunch of acres.
And me and my wife, the first trip we went to,
we visited them and it was great.
Did you really?
When you guys, before you were married?
Yeah, it was right when the Lonely Island started.
Right after we graduated,
I was already dating Mari, and Andy and Keith came down to LA,
and I had already had this trip planned, so they
were looking out, going to live for houses
in LA. And I went to
Hawaii and visited Sandra and Michael again.
Did you make
multiple trips over your life, or
was it just those two?
Three times,
I think.
Yeah.
I think it was three.
Yeah.
But the,
the first one was the most memorable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like a couple of things from ACEs that I want to go back to the,
um,
natural waterfall.
Did you have a memory of that?
Yeah,
that was,
it's amazing.
Especially like,
cause you are with local people who are like, Oh no, no, go to's amazing. Especially like, because you are with local people
who are like,
oh no,
no,
go to this one.
And it did take like forever
to like hike into the,
you know,
I mean,
and Kauai is stunningly beautiful.
I mean,
it's like,
it is Jurassic Park.
Yeah.
We used to go to,
there was like a natural
waterslide thing in New Hampshire
called Diana's Baths
that we would go to.
And it was freezing,
but it was also these like very smooth rocks. It wasn't so mossy, it was just smooth rocks go to. And it was freezing, but it was also these very smooth rocks.
It wasn't so mossy.
It was just smooth rocks.
Yeah, yeah.
And so fun as a kid.
And I remember going back maybe as a teenager or mid-20s,
and then there were all these signs that say,
like, don't swim here.
This is like drinking water or whatever.
But I don't know if we were not allowed to be there
when we were there sort of taking those rides,
but you're definitely not allowed to now,
or not supposed to at least.
It's so cool.
Like Hawaii has so many.
I actually went on vacation with me, Mari, Akiva, and Liz went to Hawaii
and found another, I can't remember what island we were on,
but we found another one of those deep woods.
You had to like a mile, and then you hike forever.
And then there's this huge open area of almost like this lake.
And then you have to go through the lake and then up a rope ladder,
up this waterfall.
And then in the back, there's this amazing...
It was great.
And it was really great to watch Akiva do that, too.
That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
This is real,
this is a tangent,
but you'll see
where it got inspired from.
We're talking about
swimming and drinking water.
Was it during the pandemic
that you started making
weird nursery,
like fables?
Oh,
Derek stories?
Yeah,
Derek stories.
It was during the pandemic,
yes,
yeah,
it was.
So Jorm reached out to me
and said he was, yeah, you sent me a Derek story. You're like. Yes, yeah, it was. So, Yoram reached out to me and said
he was, yeah, you sent me a Derek story.
You're like, hey, we listened to this.
Anybody with kids, I was like, do your kids think
this is funny? But Derek was sort of like
an Aesop-y type dude, right?
They're Aesop's Fables.
These are on Spotify. It's on all
streaming podcasts. They're like
two-minute long stories.
They're basically Aesop's fables
that get interrupted by a guy named Derek.
And then changes the moral.
And they're called Derek's stories?
Yeah, so the Down River one was,
was it someone?
Yeah, you really listened to these.
What was the Down River one?
Just, I mean, it's only two minutes long.
Go listen to Derek's story.
But just your best yorm,
just for Josh, real quick, how did Derek
ruin this? So Aesop's
fable is that
there's a lamb that's bathing
in a river, and
then up from there, there's a wolf
trying to come up with an excuse to
eat the lamb, to basically be like, hey,
how dare you drink from the water that I'm
bathing in? He's like, oh no, the water is uh soiled it cannot be for me because it runs down from you
to me and it's a basically like he's gonna eat him anyway sort of thing he's not gonna get like
a villain is always gonna be a villain it was their was their moral but in in this version
as he's trying to like poke at the lamb then d Derek's like, oh no, that's me actually.
I'm up here just ringing out the old dungarees here.
And he's like, what?
He's like, yeah, I must have had a bad jalapeno or something
just ripped in the inside of my pants.
He's right, Carmen.
Because it's just the insides of my pants
are just coated pockets to pockets.
One of the things Jorm and Andy Sandberg,
who were two-thirds of the Lonely Island,
I think one of the things you probably connected on early in life
was a love of diarrhea as a punchline to a joke.
It's still a punchline constantly.
There's something that we're working on right now that involves diarrhea.
Oh, I've heard it.
Yeah.
I've heard it. Have. I've heard it.
Have you played it for your kids?
Because it's popular.
My Wiley's friends cannot get enough.
I literally had a conversation
where he was like,
I don't know why I can't hear this again.
I'm like, it's not out yet.
That's great.
You can't go find it.
You've got your two kids.
Do they travel well?
Yes.
And then it goes, I don't know if this is for you guys,
but it goes back and forth.
He was great.
Wiley was on a plane at eight weeks to Berlin.
We were like, ah, he's settled.
And then just recently, we went to London recently,
and I was like you know
oh man he was he was super anxious about the whole thing i don't know what interesting
how was that how was he with the jet lag and like settling down when he got there
it was i mean it was okay like we were trying to keep them on a new york schedule
because it was five days but then every day it's like very consistently, it's like one hour has chipped away.
And then by the end, I was like, no, we're fucked.
How long of a trip total?
To London?
Yeah.
Was that like you were going to be there for a while?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it was just the right amount to be problematic on the background.
Gotcha.
Yeah, we like to do it like that.
As long as it's very problematic.
And they've had to move around.
Your wife, Mari, who I've been lucky to know for a very long time,
is much like you, an accomplished film director.
So you guys have moved around.
Your kids, not on trips, but hey, we live in Pittsburgh now.
Because she's directing a movie about Mr. Rogers.
So does Wiley, do you feel like as a kid, he thinks of that as a trip?
I don't know.
We had to live in Berlin as well for a little while because Mario was doing the Queen's Gambit out there.
So we were there for the same amount of time.
It was basically like four and a half months.
So it's always been that it's crossed over
into his school year.
So it's a little bit beyond a trip
because then you're also going to school there.
So he's gone to school in Pittsburgh and Berlin and LA recently.
And yeah,
so it's like,
he's had to,
it's like the summer plus two months or something like that.
So we,
I don't know what he thinks of it as like,
it's actually another,
like,
like now I'm creating my own family trips and,
and the,
I think maybe the best trip,
because I make a lot of dad decisions.
I'm like, this will be fine.
And when it was just Wiley,
because there's a pretty big gap.
He's nine, our daughter's three.
But when we were in Berlin,
I decided to take him.
Mari had to go to London for a second.
This sounds very hoity-toity.
We're like jet-setting.
But she has to be in London for the weekend. And I was like, I'm going to go to London for a second. This sounds very hoity-toity. We're like jet-setting. But she has to be in London for the weekend.
And I was like, I'm going to go to this place that these stuntman guys,
when I was working on Kung Fury, the movie,
I met all these German stunt people who were like,
you got to go to this place called Tropical Islands.
And you should look this up.
But there's a place called Tropical Islands.
It's about 45 minutes outside of Berlin.
And it's in the most massive old Soviet era.
It's going east.
Soviet era Zeppelin factory.
So it's the biggest twinkie, concrete-looking twinkie you've ever seen.
And you're like, just so unbelievably massive.
And they created a water park in it.
Wow. so unbelievably massive. And they created a water park in it. So I was like, I'll bring my then like four-year-old
to Tropical alone.
Like I'll just bring him there.
So I drive to Tropical Islands.
And then, you know, it's a theme.
It's amazing.
Like there's like a jungle inside
and you can take a hot air balloon ride inside the thing.
And we go there and then I just proceed to feed him nothing amazing. There's a jungle inside and you can take a hot air balloon ride inside the thing.
Then I just proceed to feed him nothing but fries and
candy for
six hours. I was just like, yeah, this is great.
It's vacation.
It's fine.
Then getting home.
Then wondering
why he's melting down.
Just screaming at me.
And like, yeah, that was a good.
Well, we saw you, we were in Pittsburgh and cross paths.
And I want to say grab lunch or something like that.
But you've had a couple occasions to sort of be a dad in a new place where, I mean, I know that you're always working as well.
But when Mari is shooting something, you might end up as like, now I'm a dad in Berlin with a kid,
or now I'm a dad in Pittsburgh.
And you've had to sort of adapt to those different cities.
And you seem to really be enjoying it
when you're in Pittsburgh in terms of like,
oh, it's a whole new world of stuff.
We're a good couple for that sort of thing.
Like when Mari's like,
because Mari, I think when deciding to do the Queen's Game,
she was also like,
who's going to watch this show about chess? Like, really, like, because Mari, I think when deciding to do the Queen's Game, she was also like, who's going to watch this show about chess?
Like, really?
Like, come on.
I was like, well, yeah, but you should do it.
Like, yeah.
So, yeah, like, I'm definitely a good partner for that sort of thing.
I'm just like, this will be fine.
Like, whether it's like, or like, just like being overly optimistic.
That's kind of what I mean by dad decisions.
I think that, like, those are like, you know, like, I was just talking to Avi by dad decisions. I think that those are like...
I was just talking to Avi the other day
and he was like,
should I go to that?
After we were going to...
This is Kristen Wiig's husband.
But Avi was like,
in addition to going to this
ninja trampoline park that we were at,
he was like,
I think we ought to go to the Natural History Museum.
I was like, yeah, man, push it.
Get him some candy.
God love him.
When you touch down in a Berlin or a Pittsburgh,
do you just start sort of Googling or reaching out to figure
what are good things to do with a kid here?
I like to sort of either drive around or run around
and just figure out things
based on that so much.
And then there were things that I would
immediately do in places where somehow
I always ended up at a
skate shop
kind of thing.
So in Berlin...
I like it. It's like somehow, I guess
maybe it's because I Google where's best skate shop.
It might have been that.
But like, no, I bought a skateboard there
and I would skate at this park near where his school was.
But that was also when we were writing the MacGruber series.
So it was particularly weird because I met these,
it's just meeting random people.
I was like, I just have no shame and like, what's up, man? So there was a production company that was right
near where, like three doors down from where we were staying in Prince Lauerberg. And I met these
guys and I was like, oh, there's like a film production company. And I was like, hey, when
are you guys done? Because I'm writing with people in Los Angeles and they come in at like 10 in the morning. So if you're done at like 6.30,
if I could get in here at 7,
I could just write all night while you're not here.
And so that's what every night I would write
from like 7 p.m. to like sometimes 5 in the morning.
Then I would go back to bed as long as I could.
Then I would drive Wiley to school.
Then I would go to the skate park
to try to make myself tired. Then I would go Wiley to school. Then I would go to the skate park to try to make myself tired.
Then I would go back to bed.
I like the Germans.
Germans think an American skater,
their stereotype now is they just do it to fall asleep.
Well, when you're my age, and by the way, I don't skate much.
You can't see the scar, but the last time I really tried was...
I will say that the kind of dad you are, because I have this, I don't know, you can't see this scar, but like the last time I really tried was, so yeah.
Yeah, I will say that the kind of dad you are,
it's like, let's just go to the place
the German stuntmen recommended.
It does like, because another thing in aces
that really made me laugh was when he asked your dad
where you were going in Hawaii,
your dad was like, it's like kind of a scene.
That's such a funny thing.
They party pretty hard.
They party pretty hard. That's such a funny thing. They party pretty hard. They party pretty hard.
That's such a funny thing
for a dad to tell an eight-year-old.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, the other crazy thing
in researching this with my parents
was that both of them,
their response when I was like,
yeah, I was disappointed.
Both of their responses was like,
wow.
They just had no idea.
I will say, I'm going to guess,
based on your parents
and based on their philosophy about the world,
they also would probably be like,
yeah, sorry, Yoram.
Our friends got evicted.
I'm sorry you had a bad vacation.
It wasn't so much that.
It was my mom was like,
you know what?
You learned something.
And it was not wrong.
I just don't know if I would
call it a vacation.
I would say
you did a grandparents move
when you were calling it a dad move.
But bringing a kid to a water park and just
feeding them sugar for like six hours?
Yeah, that's fair.
Because
I feel like grandparents sort of feel like
they have this diplomatic immunity of like,
hey man, what they do in my six hours.
I'm above the law.
It's always different when there's no one to hand off that child to.
I remember the first time,
I think the first time our oldest had ice cream
was with my father-in-law,
who's the best dude in the world.
But he came home and Alex was like, did you get my ice cream?
And he went, he liked it.
And I said, we didn't think he wouldn't like it.
I was just laughing.
First of all, I was very pro the idea of like,
that's exactly how we should get ice cream for the first time,
is on the sly with his grandpa.
So I got no problem.
But I was like, your defense stinks.
I just like it when parents now,
when it shifts a little bit where they're kind of in the kid position.
I'm like, oh, but no, but I didn't mean, you know.
We did that with my mom a lot too.
Like pandemic, because we were out there in the Bay for the birth of my daughter.
And it was the same.
Granted, it was pandemic time.
So we had some rules that we were supposed to follow.
And then occasionally my mom would just be like, it was like, you couldn't go to a store.
And then we'd come back and, yeah, she'd brought him to go get ice cream.
And we were like, it's a store.
It's still a store.
And she'd be like, well, you know what?
You all gave it.
And you're like, the dynamic has shifted here.
You also wonder how much the kid is sort of pushing
that, being like, Grandma, please, Grandma,
please. And it's like, well, I'm not going to
make his dreams
come true in these moments.
Were your parents big on
were they okay with sweets?
Yeah.
I think so. I think we had probably
no exaggeration. i would say we
ate 10 times more sweets than my kids oh easily well yeah maybe higher your kids eat sweets that
aren't sweets like they get tricked i have a joke in my stand-up which is their cookie is what we
used to have to eat to get a cookie like that's how healthy their cookies are. It was like,
if you finish this,
weird like smash dates
shaped into a circle.
See, that was my upbringing.
Like, because we had like
care of it.
Oh yeah, that's,
I remember Sandberg
said the same thing,
but you Berkeley kids
were like, wait.
No, no, there was a moment
where me and my friend
snuck a bottle of vitamin C. We ate an entire bottle of vitamin C. And I got it and I was like, wait. No, no. There was a moment where me and my friend snuck a bottle of vitamin C.
We ate an entire bottle
of vitamin C.
And I get it.
I was like,
oh, we ate 50,000 times
our daily allowance.
And just peed like electric.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like I'll go to Seth's house
and like my nephew Ash
will be like,
oh, do you want an ice cream,
Uncle Poshy? And I'll be like, sure. And I'll go to the fridge and Alexa will be like, oh, do you want an ice cream, Uncle Poshy?
And I'll be like, sure.
And I'll go to the fridge and Alexia will be like,
it's not ice cream.
It's something else.
It's weird.
Yeah, like, do you want a cookie?
And she's like, it's not a cookie.
It's like they all have the texture of an old coin.
Like that's how hard it is to fight through one of the coins.
Yeah, you're looking in the right places then.
That's really hippy-dippy shit.
Because I felt like all that got better.
Like back in the 70s, which I can say.
Oh, I will say that.
I mean, well, Josh is a vegan.
And even in just the last few years,
the food tastes so much better
your options taste yeah way better way better yeah also last time i was with seth and his family
the kids got these little like parfait desserts and it was like this fake chocolate thing with
some fruit and whipped cream and they were like where's this whipped cream from and alexi had to
be like i made it and they were like oh she's like whipped cream from? And Alexi had to be like, I made it.
And they were like, oh.
She's like, yeah, I made the mistake of one time
giving them like ready whip.
And now if I like make them.
They're like, whoa, there's a whole world.
Homemade whipped cream.
They're like, this is garbage.
First time, but then it's, by the way,
the first time Ash had a real hot chocolate
because there were no other options.
We'd taken, we were in New Mexico where Alexi lives.
We'd taken this gondola up.
Oh, you've, you know,
you've shot McGruber there,
you know,
but like that crazy gondola
that goes to the top of this.
And again,
you get up there
and it's like this little chalet
and it's,
Ash is with his cousin
and so they shared a,
literally shared
a hot chocolate
that was a real one
and then he threw up
and we had to like
give him an hour long bath.
We had to cancel dinner reservations because it's like, wow, we can't. him an hour long bath. We had to cancel
dinner reservations
because it's like,
wow, we can't.
Yeah, the real stuff.
He didn't have a hot chocolate.
We're not sure
he's going to make it.
Yeah.
He's going to be a real joy
when he goes off to college.
Yeah.
He's going to be like,
oh, Ash has to go
lay on the bathroom floor again.
He's back with the nurse.
Yeah, that's it.
Like Ash's frat house,
like we had to hold
his hair back
while he puked up
M&M's
Yorm
a lovely trip I took
and again a lot of times I speak
and almost like try to
legally defend myself against Josh
calling it out as not a family trip
but when your family began
I went on a trip to your wedding
and it was fantastic
it was in big sir yeah
correct carmel close very close carmel close but it was a really lovely and also like everything
there was a real nice wavy gravy vibe to the whole oh was there do you know from your perspective
that's yeah it's nice to hear yeah i mean there i feel like there were a lot of like
there were like people where like yoga was a profession.
Oh, well, yeah.
That set the tone.
You know what I mean?
Like there was, it was like comedy slash yoga.
No, that, okay.
That really set the tone
because the woman who married us
is a yoga instructor, is our friend
who we went on a yoga retreat with.
So that really set that tone.
And then later it was on Kay.
I think it was the first time I was somewhere,
and God, correct me if I'm wrong,
she maybe started by making us thank the people who the land,
does that sound right?
A land acknowledgement?
Yes.
I think it was the first time I heard a land acknowledgement out loud.
Yeah, yeah, I think that that is right.
And it's also like, that's always a fun one
because you ask your friend to do it
and then you're like, oh, that's what you're going to say.
Like, it was a big surprise to me as it was to you.
Yeah, but it was great.
And the other thing, this is,
now I'm treading on dangerous ground
because it's a little bit of
an snl story so i'll make it quick josh but i will say i think the peyton manning show where
forte did that dancing scene where he was a basketball coach had happened the previous year
because it was a summer wedding and then this woman like an older woman said to will like that
i love that so much and then will just did the full dance he just like it was that thing where
when you compliment forte you end like I felt like
halfway through it
I was worried
the woman was gonna be like
uh huh
no no I remember it
it was during the wedding
he did this
no no no
it was like
at the hotel
oh okay gotcha gotcha
yeah
but it was one of those
really fun
I mean those weddings
and there were a few of them
mine was right at the
tail end of it
but like it was
those that like
that was that it felt
like an SNL wedding
it was a lot of fun
yeah it really was and Josh I'm sorry I didn't invite you we weren't you know that. But it felt like an SNL wedding. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, it really was.
And Josh, I'm sorry I didn't invite you.
We weren't, you know.
That's okay.
If it's more SNL stuff, I'm glad I'm done.
I get it.
Uh-huh.
This was awesome.
Was that all we had from Asa?
Because the one thing I want to say
is how much I enjoy Asa's voice.
I love my brother's voice.
He's fantastic.
In fact, we just did a thing for this
Knuckles Sonic the Hedgehog
spinoff show that he did all the music for
and he plays the voice of this demon.
So when you see episode four,
that's my brother. He did do one
more that was about
a fight that I had
with my dad that I don't remember
that was on the show. Let's hear it.
My mom said
that my brother and my dad got into it
and that it got physical.
I guess Yorm punched my dad or something.
I told this to my dad.
He was like, I have no recollection of that.
But he said that some months prior,
Yorm had graduated eighth grade
and after the graduation ceremony,
he disappeared with his friend Winston for like five hours. And my parents were like losing their shit, freaking out. And
when he came home, he was just like, I'm not going on the Hawaii trip. Nobody understands me. Only
Winston understands me. That was the quote that my dad remembered. And he said, oh shit, this is how it's about to
be when we're out in Hawaii. It's just going to be an uphill battle for Yorm. Not for me,
I was chilling. Aren't you glad I played that? I'm so glad. Do you now, is Winston,
do you remember Winston? Yeah. Okay. Winston, My friend Winston Ross and a guy named Mark Shotland,
I was very good pals with right before I met Akiva.
I met Akiva when I was 12 years old.
So yeah, so I met those guys, and we were in,
it was the first comedy rap that I was ever involved in.
We were in a group called Strike Three
because we each struck out with ladies.
Super cool.
Yeah, so we would write raps about...
I guess it wasn't comedy.
It was comedy rap from an outside perspective.
For us, it was just emotional rap.
Right.
You didn't think Strike 3 was funny.
You were like,
we're showing you our full hearts.
But me and Winston did some pretty good...
We had some pretty good pranks though
we did a lot of prank calling
because you could do that back in the day
so our big
the one I was the most proud of
because I was like this is a really weird joke
for two 12 year olds to come up with
we would call in our little voices
we would call people's houses
and we would find an answering machine
and then we would read.
We'd fill up their answering machine
by reading John Steinbeck's
The Red Pony.
We'd just keep calling back and
be like, where was I? Chapter 2.
That's a fucking weird
joke. Just think about
our little, little voices
being like, chapter, Captain Duke.
And that's how Audible started.
That's how Audible started.
Bay Area.
That's when Bay Area became a tech hub.
Somebody was like,
this is amazing.
I'm listening to the Red Pony.
You know what?
I did listen to it to go to bed.
The best one that I get Higgins does to me,
Steve Higgins,
SNL producer that Jorm and I know.
First time McConaughey hosted,
he told a story in his monologue, and Higgins said, you producer that Yoram and I know, first time McConaughey hosted, he told a story in his monologue,
and Higgins said,
you should practice it and record it.
And so McConaughey recorded this long story about his dad.
And then like every three years,
I'll get a voicemail,
and it's just like,
and then I'll remember my dad's,
and I'm like, what is this?
And I'm like, oh, fucking Higgins.
Just literally finds it and then plays it.
Those are the best jokes to me.
Those are the best jokes.
With the advent of AI, this is in the same vein.
I wanted to find old emails that I hadn't responded to
and then have AI write a book as a response.
Like, write 300 pages on how sorry I am that I didn't do it.
And then send that years later, like,
Dear Seth, I'm so sorry I missed it.
Just like, rah!
Why did I miss it in the first place?
Yeah.
I looked around my place for the sweatshirt you said you left over here.
I just can't seem to find it anywhere.
Do you, looking back, do you think it's true
that Winston was the only one who understood you?
Maybe. It's possible.
I mean, it's, you know.
It must be a funny thing when people become teens,
when kids become teens, that you actually then
start commiserating with the younger kid about
like, look out for this one.
Like, all of a sudden, an eight-year-old
is more rational. Because it does feel like, I know we this one. Like all of a sudden, an eight-year-old is more rational.
Because it does feel like,
I know we're hearing Asa's perspective as an adult,
but really, from those two short messages.
This was always the dynamic, though, Seth.
Asa was always cooler than me.
Like Asa, okay, just to give some context.
First of all, my brother's in a band called Electric Guest.
He's a very talented music producer.
He's an incredible musician.
So he's a cool lead singer of a band.
Always been cool as shit.
When the first time I met Asa,
because I will say, all jokes aside,
I thought you were cool.
Yeah, I'm fine.
When you showed up at SNL.
I'm totally fine.
I do not think you're a nerd anyway.
When your brother showed up,
I thought you were the biggest fucking nerd in the world.
I was like, oh shit.
Next to Asa.
Yeah, Asa's like me from Concentrate.
Everything's sharper, smaller, more compact.
He's a Googler.
He had a competition with himself
where he was trying to see how many winter balls
and proms he could go to in the Bay Area.
I think he went to 13 or something.
I met a girl.
Two girls introduced themselves to me on the same day, to me, his brother, as their girlfriend.
He's like, well, this is my boyfriend.
I was like, oh, really?
I just, because I just met somebody.
And you were like, I'm in strike three.
Yeah, exactly.
So to get back to that.
So I used to record myself on an audio cassette.
And when I was rejected, this was real painful.
When I got my strike, I recorded a lot of myself.
And she just, she didn't like me, I guess.
It was like a lot of that.
Like 10 minutes of that.
And then years later, my brother found this tape.
And he was like, dude, I found this tape of this girl crying about something.
I was like, that's not a girl.
That's me.
I was like, yeah, this is perfect.
I mean, I was hopeful that he had remixed it,
that he had used his multitude of music skills to make it.
If we only had that to go out on.
I know.
And here it is.
What a delight.
Thank you to both you and Asa for the work
he put into this. But before you go,
Posh has some questions.
Yes. Alright, here we go, Yoram.
You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal
vacation relaxing, adventurous,
or educational?
I think it's adventurous.
What's your favorite means of transportation?
Train, plane, automobile,
boat, bike, your own two feet?
I'm a real Joe Biden.
I do like
trains.
All right. I feel like trains. A lot of people
train. Well, that's the romantic answer.
If I'm probably being honest, it's like, oh, it's a fast plane.
It's a romantic answer, but I think if we had it's also a good reminder if we had better trains in
this country i think a lot of people are yeah right there ready on the lot ready to take them
yeah if you could take a vacation with any family alive or dead fictional or real other than your
own family what family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh, alive or dead. Like, so are people mostly choosing like historical figures?
So, I mean, some, some are like, you know, friends or other, you know, celebrity families or.
Yeah, it'd probably be like, it's hard not to like Macho Man's family, you know.
Randy Macho Man Savage.
Like Macho Man, Randy Savage's family.
And I would hope it would be like somewhere in Florida.
Yeah.
By the way,
just a little shout out.
Macho Man released
a rap album
and it's called
Be a Man Hulk.
It's a diss album
to Hulk Hogan.
If you have not heard it,
it's one of the best
things you've ever heard.
It's really well produced.
And he says,
because he doesn't want
to alienate fans,
he says,
kick you in the butt
a lot.
Kick you in the butt.
Like it's fucking great. And you can tell he's a real fan.
I'm glad you said, if you haven't
heard it, for all the listeners who were like,
I heard that, dude. Oh, okay.
I don't know how nerdy comedy
fans your audience is.
I think that's a wrestling and rap
fans. I don't even know if that's comedy. It's comedy,
actually.
If you had to
be stranded on a desert island with one
member of your family, who would
it be? Asa. Coolest guy ever.
Asa, great. Yeah,
no, I mean, that'd be my pick.
And
Berkeley, your hometown is Berkeley?
Indeed. Would you recommend
Berkeley as a vacation destination?
No.
Probably not.
As kids, we thought it was like an urban hub.
And I was like, this is like the coolest.
Berkeley's like hardcore.
And then as soon as I moved away, I was like,
oh, I lived in like a quaint college town with cafes.
Yeah.
Well, that sounds, it could be lovely.
I've actually never been to Berkeley.
I would, I'd like to, I'd like to see Berkeley.
I went and did a show there once
and one of you guys told me,
sent me to a very good burrito place.
Gordo Burritos.
I'll pronounce it correctly
even though everyone says it with an S.
Something.
But Gordo Burritos.
Yeah, that's it.
And in fact,
there was a moment at SNL,
Andy was like,
having an animated discussion
with Billy Joe from Green Day. And I walked up and I was like, you guys talking about Billy Joe, Joe from a green day.
And I walked up and I was like,
you guys talking about Gordo?
And they're like,
yeah.
Like,
um,
and then Seth has our final questions.
Have you ever been to the grand Canyon?
No.
Would you want to go?
Yeah.
Are you inviting?
No.
Okay.
We just,
Josh and I,
it,
Josh has barely been,
and I haven't been,
and Josh really wants to do it,
and I really don't.
Why don't you want to?
I mean, I probably will.
Isn't that like one of the seven wonders of the world
or something?
There's no way of knowing.
Don't do it.
Yeah.
We're not going to look into that.
But I just feel like,
I think it's a seven.
Yeah, I do.
It's the wonder why people go there.
Was that fast enough?
Sick burn.
Was that a fast enough burn?
I don't know if it was fast enough.
Can we take the air out so it's like right after?
And this is very exciting.
And hopefully Josh won't be deeply jealous.
Myself, Andy Sandberg, and Akiva Schaffer
have a new podcast that just came out about the Lonely Island, about all the famous Lonely Island
songs, as well as the ones that are unfamous and the ones that are infamous. I hope Josh is jealous
about this because I'm really excited about it. And I want to cut into your family time.
really excited about and I want to cut into your family time.
I'm not jealous.
I'm very excited. I mean,
there are songs that you guys have that will
stick in my head. I
jog very often to your
music to complete albums of yours.
I think it's great. Yeah, I've
always been a fan.
That's shocking to me.
Tell me, just to prove it, what song
have you jogged to
that whole album that the um uh the michael bolton track is is on so badly you'd be like
poodle hat no it's a turtleneck and chain i want to say is it that yeah yeah that's a good all right
you proved it and then very often if I'm like about to leave the house
and I can't find my wallet and my keys
or like once I have everything,
I'll go, okay, I'm reloaded.
And then I leave.
Oh my God.
It's amazing to me that like he really did
just love doing that impression.
I think that's how it came about.
I've been like, well, I can do Scarface.
I think that's how it came about.
I've been like, well, I can do Scarface.
It's made its way into my every day.
And then there was a song that we did called Trouble on Dookie Island.
And we wanted to have a Scarface sample on it because it was like a crime story, like Wu-Tang style crime story.
And we were like, how much is that?
Every time you use the sample, it's $10,000.
And we were like, we know a guy.
We called him up.
He was like,
you need to do this sample for us.
There's Garfield,
this guy.
Yeah.
That's really funny.
And also,
Josh is going to enjoy it because I think Josh
will have less of an issue
with SNL stories
being on a podcast
that is specifically
about SNL stories.
Yeah,
maybe he'll get it out
of your system
and you'll stop.
Yeah. Yeah, well, maybe Seth will get it out of your system and you'll stop. Yeah.
Yeah, well, maybe Seth will get it out of his system.
He'll stop.
That's what I'm talking about.
He is the problem.
You're fine.
Yeah, it almost never comes up because of Josh.
Yeah.
The real bummer will be
when Josh listens to the Lonely Island podcast
if all the stories are about family trips.
I mean, what?
Why are they in here?
What if it's really sweet, though? It's all just
like, you know, talking about how much
he loves his brother. Oh, yeah.
Could be. You should tune in,
Josh.
Make your hopes up.
I'm just like, a lot of me
be like, enough about your songs.
You know what really rules? Tell me more stories about
voicemails that Steve Higgins left for you.
I think that people
are going to like the...
Yeah, by the way,
Josh knows Steve Higgins.
It's not like someone
only you and I know.
I know,
but sometimes
for the listener.
All right, well,
Joram,
love you very much.
Love you too.
Yeah, I hope to see you soon.
Thanks, Asa.
Yes, and if you want
to go to the Grand Canyon,
Josh,
I'm all in.
Great. Excellent. Asa and I are going to do some cool shit instead. Thanks, Asa. Yes, and if you want to go to the Grand Canyon, Josh, I'm all in. Great. Excellent.
Asa and I are going to do some cool shit instead.
Ah, what?
Alright, pal. Thank you.
He wanted some now and laters Was just living his life
Never said I'ma kill you
With his own kitchen knife
Wasn't great with the ladies
So he started strike three.
Yelled at his dad only, Winston understands me.
Twelve-year-old Yoma Taccone took a Hawaiian vacay.
He was so disappointed when he saw where it stayed
It was a structure made of driftwood
With a tarp for a door
There were flying cockroaches
And you slept on the floor
But his bro Acer loved it
He was the cooler tween
Freaking loved and a holder
He was part of the scene
Went down the water slide with slick moss
Going to a luau
You might be more like Acer
If he only knew how.