Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - TIG NOTARO Parked On Lawns in Mississippi
Episode Date: June 11, 2024Seth and Josh welcome Tig Notaro to the pod! Tig talks about growing up in Pass Christian, Mississippi, the hilarious introduction to her family her wife received, what her kids think about visiting T...ig's hometown, and so much more! NissanThanks again to Nissan for supporting Family Trips, and for the reminder to chase bigger, better, more exciting adventures. And enjoy the ride along the way. Learn more at nissanusa.com Delete MeGo to JoinDeleteMe.com/TRIPS and use promo code TRIPS for 20% off.  Photo Credit: Robyn Beck
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Hey Paji. Hey Sufi. Can we tease the trip you're about to take?
Yeah, it's a bit crazy. So I've got a friend who works with a celebrity.
Okay.
And this celebrity was about to take a trip.
As celebrities do.
To go to Stockholm and had reserved
this very nice three bedroom penthouse
in Stockholm, Sweden.
And then as celebrities also do, she booked a job.
Sure.
And can't go, can't cancel.
And so offered the place up to my friend
and my friend invited another friend of hers
and I was out to lunch with that friend over the weekend.
And now, so I'm gonna go to Oslo tomorrow night,
two nights in Oslo, and then Stockholm for five nights.
It's amazing.
And then home.
And I just sort of like, yeah, fell into my lap.
And it's one of these things where opportunity's knocking
and I'm answering the door.
You're at the door, yeah.
And you know, for us, obviously with a podcast like this,
anytime one of us can get a trip in there,
real important.
Real important,
because now you can come and report back.
So.
Yeah.
I feel like also with our, you know,
our shout outs to get family trip stories
from our listeners and questions,
I don't know if we'll ever veer into this territory or not,
but I do feel like friends are sort of become your chosen family.
Yeah.
In a lot of cases.
And I'm flying and I'm traveling with people who are very near and dear to me.
So they are friends, but they feel like family.
And I'm very grateful for the opportunity.
I feel like Mr. Black and White got a little gray area on what counts as a family trip all of a sudden. and I'm very grateful for the opportunity.
I feel like Mr. Black and White got a little gray area
on what counts as a family trip all of a sudden.
Can I tell you that I just was talking to a mom
at one of the kids' schools,
and she's a fan of family trips,
and she appreciated how you kept everything on track.
Hmm. I appreciate that she told you
because I feel like sometimes you're like,
it doesn't matter.
Yeah, she told me and you know what?
I took it on the chin.
I just, I know when I lose a point.
I was just gonna say, I have bought
because I get particularly prickly
when Lorne Michaels stuff comes up.
Yeah, I think everybody who's listened knows that.
Yeah, because also like,
it's not like he's like the king of travel or whatever,
but everyone-
Sure, he does travel very well.
Yeah, sure.
But he's also-
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
I take it, I take the point, right?
Yeah, so I have bought this.
Oh, that's real irritating.
Josh is holding up one of those buttons that you hit.
And so now you're gonna button me and my fellow
Asadel alums when we mention Lor Michaels?
Yeah.
Wait, I didn't hear anything.
Did it make a noise?
Yeah, you're gonna get it on my end.
It's like, I don't know, sometimes these mics don't hear anything. Did it make a noise? Yeah, you're gonna get it on my end. It's like, I don't know,
sometimes these mics don't pick up.
What did it say?
Was it just a buzz?
Yeah, it goes,
eh.
Can you record?
Is it one of those ones where you can record it?
I'm sorry, no more Lauren stories.
Yeah, that's what I would do.
Like, no, no, no, no, no.
Here.
You guys still don't hear it. All right, our listeners will hear it.
Maybe it's just that my ears can't hear any shade
about Lorne Michaels, the greatest man I've ever met.
Oh, sweet Lorne.
I'm sorry about my brother, sweet Lorne.
Look, I think he's great too.
I just don't know that everyone listening is like,
oh yeah, give me some of that. Yeah, yeah, I get it. That's great too. I just don't know that everyone listening is like, oh yeah, give me some of that.
Yeah, I get it.
That's very fair.
So I also want to say,
you were asking if I ran the Stockholm Marathon,
is that what you just said?
No, but we can talk about that.
Oh great, so I mean, sure.
It's a really sad story about an athletic achievement
that went off track.
I did train to run the Stockholm Marathon
in summer of 2015, and I had IT band issues.
I overtrained.
I don't wanna brag on the podcast,
but I was running like 150 miles a month.
That's too many miles for a dude my age at the time.
And so I had IT band
issues and then I took a month off before the race and then I tried to do it and I made
it like 10 miles before my knee buckled and I had to stop the race. And it's real sad,
a couple things that were sad. One, I kind of liked the idea of running the Stockholm
Marathon because I liked the anonymity. Right before my knee buckled,
or I should say right after it buckled,
I was sort of like leaning against a car
and a little Swedish kid walked by and goes,
oh, hello, I said my arse.
And I was like, oh, sorry about that.
I didn't need that.
And then you have to like walk home
during an active marathon.
And that's not great either.
Yeah, because you probably look hobbled.
And you also look like somebody
who was supposed to be in the marathon.
Were you still wearing your number?
Yeah, or maybe I took it, but I still,
you know what I mean?
Like you look like a dude who was just ranting miles
and people are like,
oh, did you not know there was also a marathon?
You should have done that.
Yeah.
And then I remember,
but we did have Swedish meatballs for dinner that night,
which I know is very on the nose.
Yeah, mom and dad were there for that.
Mom and dad came out, which was lovely.
Mom and dad came out, Alexi came out,
my sister-in-law, Ariel came out,
because I invited her.
I said, I don't want people to think
this is because you and my wife have a co-dependent relationship
and you have to go to the same places all the time,
this is because I want you there to support me.
That's nice. Yeah, it is nice.
I remember you ran the Helsinki Marathon.
I did. In Finland,
and finished, I was there for that one.
And I've seen you run a couple marathons.
Good man.
And now for our listeners, we should know
that's the sum of them.
It makes it seem like now they're like, how many are there?
There's the two Josh saw and then the one I didn't finish.
Josh was kind of like a rabbit's foot.
Yeah, I'm your lucky charm.
And at the Helsinki marathon, like there's always,
there's like, you know, they might pass you
a cup of Gatorade or water.
There's like little stations to keep you going.
And I remember at the Helsinki marathon, they were pass you a cup of Gatorade or water. There's like little stations to keep you going. And I remember at the Helsinki Marathon,
they were handing out pickles.
Cause pickles got that salt.
Yep, it was fun to, you know,
it's like the first pickle station,
you like grab a pickle, you're like running so fast,
he grabs, falls out of your hand,
you're like, I don't have time to go back for the pickle.
And you just keep running.
And then like late in the race,
you stop and like have a conversation with the, the pickle and you just keep running. And then like late in the race, you stop and have a conversation with the pickle person.
You're just sort of like,
I kind of feel like I'm cramping everywhere.
Like, do you have a good pickle for that?
You do a pickle tasting.
If all those initial runners are dropping pickles,
you run a real danger of a pickle pileup.
Yeah, you don't want a pickle pileup.
I will say, Helsinki, you were there,
Colin Jost was there, Andy Samberg was there.
And at one point, you guys were, you ran alongside me.
Yeah.
For maybe a block.
Yeah, we got winded pretty fast.
You were running with me, and then I remember
just Andy after the fact saying he thought he was gonna throw up.
Because I wasn't sprinting obviously,
I was running a marathon pace.
In Jost's book, which is a wonderful book
called A Very Punchable Face,
Jost actually prints my marathon time and where I finished,
which was like 2000th.
It was a very mean, it was a very mean move by.
Well, did he go thinking that maybe you were gonna win it? It was a very mean, it was a very mean move by...
Well, did he go thinking that maybe you were gonna win it? No, he was just after the fact.
That would be a funny thing to say,
like, look how good he did.
And it was like, yeah, not that great.
Making his face all the more punchable.
More than, yeah, exactly.
That's what he asked for.
Yeah, our good friend, our good friend, Colin Jess.
We also, one time we were in Sweden
and had the best brunch of our lives.
101 item brunch at the hotel.
Can't remember the name of the hotel,
but it was, I remember we walked in to check in
and there was a sign saying we have a 101 item brunch.
And it was everything you wanted it to be.
Yeah, and it was also, it was every morning till like 2 p.m.
It was nice and late, that's right.
Yeah.
And so yeah, we would go out,
we would get up late and we'd go down.
I mean, for the 101 items, we probably leaned on,
like we leaned on the meatballs more than anything else.
We did have, yeah.
Now this is, this will be your first return
to the nation of meatballs post-veganism.
Yeah.
Do we think that in this day and age,
they've got good, I don't know, like non-meat meatballs?
Probably not.
I mean, I'll also say that I went to a wedding in Sweden
in Gothenburg a few years ago,
and we were out with our Swedish friends.
And I was like, hey, can we get some Swedish meatballs?
And he's like, yeah, it's like a kid's menu item,
but we can get it.
I don't think the Swedes eat Swedish meatballs
as much as we think they do.
Yeah, they should.
They totally should.
It's dumb.
Be like if I was like, just cause I lived in America,
I wouldn't eat chicken fingers,
which I think we all know I do.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
Love those fingers.
That's a burn when that's only on the kids menu
and I have to convince the kids to get them.
You guys gotta come.
Yeah, but then they can have your onion soup.
Right.
All right, well, you have a wonderful trip.
That's very exciting that you can go back to Scandinavia.
I'm very jealous that you get to take that trip.
Yeah, I'm lucky and I know I'm lucky.
Hey, our next guest talked about her hometown
in a way that maybe more than any guests we've ever had has made me want to visit it.
100%. And this place was not on my radar.
Exactly.
Now it is like, it's, if I had a map that I was putting pushpins in, I would put a pushpin in this town.
She's a wonderful comedian. She's also a podcaster. She's also a writer.
She's Tig Notaro.
And we do hope you enjoy her right
after you enjoy Jeff Tweedy. family trips with the mindless brothers.
Here we go.
How are you, Tig?
I'm doing well.
How are you, Seth?
It's been a long, long time.
I feel like it's been a million years.
Do you remember which college we did stand up together at?
No, I don't.
I do. I do.
I do.
I guess it resonated far more with me.
It's an important memory to have.
Do you even remember the state?
Do you remember that it happened?
I know it happened.
I remember that actually,
this is how long ago it was.
My first episode of the Sarah Silverman program
was premiering that night.
That we were, didn't we go to a gig and it was canceled
and then we had to fly?
No, it was University of Northern Iowa
is what I wanna say.
But I do remember we had to take a puddle jumper to,
I don't usually, I remember it was rare that I flew with you
because we both had to go back to a bigger airport
before you went somewhere and I went somewhere.
But we sat on a very small puddle jumper
and my memory of it, I don't know if you remember this,
I do feel as though I've gone on a road trip with you
because you had no interest in small talk.
You immediately just got into my life with me
in a way that was really helpful.
You kind of sussed out that I was dating somebody
that I shouldn't be dating within,
like, before we even left Iowa.
Well, I do remember that.
I do remember that,
and I felt like maybe I had crossed a line,
but I figured I might not see you again
for another 20 years.
And you didn't, but you had a massive effect on my life.
So I'm really looking forward to this next,
hopefully this hour.
I feel like we were also scheduled to perform someplace
and then there was a weather situation. That was when the very first episode
that I was on, Sarah Silverman, was airing.
And then it got canceled, and we got rescheduled.
Yeah. We did. I guess we, yeah.
It was, I do remember it very fondly.
Now, do you ever see my brother?
Do you guys ever run into each other?
I ran into, I feel like the first time
and only time I met you,
and I have a bad memory, obviously.
I mean- So do I.
So let's see if we have this, I've got one in mind.
Yeah, I only have one memory of you where we interacted,
and that was, we did a vegan benefit together.
We did.
That was a vegan comedy show
at Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles,
a great little theater.
Mom and dad were in town and I was like,
hey, I got asked to do this thing and Tig's headlining.
And we went down and it was a great,
it was like at three in the afternoon.
It was a great time.
Well, it was a great time and you might've been gone
when I performed, but what ended up happening
at that show, which for some reason I remember more than I remember my time with Seth, but
we were, I was doing my show.
Well I had told my wife, I said, because it's a matinee show, should we bring Max and Finn,
our, at the time, I think six-year-old sons,
they had never seen me do stand-up.
And so it felt like a perfect opportunity.
So we brought them and I did not account
for my sons heckling me.
Oh.
It was great.
I was there.
I was in the audience for your set. Oh you were? Yeah.
Okay. And your sons, your sons seemed fascinated and then afterwards then there was like a little
green room and it was very busy because there were a lot of people on that show and then you're there
and Stephanie and you're two adorable and very well-mannered sons I will say. Well, thanks. Well, mannered after they heckled me in front of them.
I truly was like, oh, right. Of course this is happening.
Why would this not happen?
Right. They feel like, in the same way I feel like our mother was our French teacher.
And I feel like we had, felt like we had more license to sort of interact with the teacher in ways
that you wouldn't interact with a teacher
because she was our mother.
Yeah, yeah.
And she had like a drawer that had candy in it
that you could win based on like doing well
on a quiz or whatever.
But I had no compunction about going up
and just grabbing a piece of candy whenever I wanted
because that was my mom's candy.
So in effect, that was my candy.
Well, compunction is a really good word.
Yeah.
It's interesting to me that the reason your kids
hadn't seen you do stand up yet is that it was too late
at night and not that they just might be too young
for stand up.
Like you jumped at your first matinee gig
to bring six-year-olds to stand up.
But they cuss. Like there's nothing that they...
You know what I mean? Like they hang around.
My comedian friends come over. My wife doesn't edit herself with anything she says.
So it's really not an issue. But it was just ridiculous because it stunned me because the heckling
was very age appropriate heckling
because my son Max was like, not.
Yeah.
Yeah, the old not.
So, and I will say like, there's no scoring
when you put down a heckler that is your own child.
You know, you're not gonna be like,
oh, Tig owned them.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not gonna go viral with me saying,
you're gonna go to bed early.
They also, because that was a vegan fundraiser,
some vegan restaurant, I forget which it was,
but had like sponsored it and sent food over
for all the performers.
And I don't think it was necessarily like a flex on your part, but had like sponsored it and sent food over for all the performers. And I don't
think it was necessarily like a flex on your part, but you weren't there early to have
food because also you had your children and your wife. So you showed up and you're the
headliner. Makes sense. And then afterwards they were like, oh, here's your food. But
we were in a tiny little green room with like 15 people and you were like, I think I'm going
to eat this later. So I'm not just eating on my lap
with all of you watching me eat this sandwich.
You're like, I appreciate it, I will take it with me.
Thank you very much.
It was a flex by the way, for me to show up.
It was a flex to show up for my set
for a vegan matinee comedy show.
Yeah.
Now is the idea, is this another thing that is
is health-based is that the vegans have decided
that also it's better to do standup in the afternoon
just to get a good night's sleep.
Yeah.
That we've also kind of overlooked the fact
that it's just basically unhealthy to be up as late
as we are doing stand up on a normal day.
And it's also very blue zone of my family because we travel together to the show.
We enjoy the show together.
We eat, you know, plant things, you know, it's classic us.
Do you travel a lot with the boys?
No, we travel a lot as a family, but no, I don't bring them.
Like everybody, you know, how,
I don't know if you've experienced this,
but strangers that don't know you chiming in
and writing you and telling you how to live your life.
People have done this to me saying that I work too much
and that my kids should have more time with me.
Just to set the record straight,
I do work a decent amount,
but my kids,
if you didn't know that Stephanie and I were in entertainment, our kids have the most normal,
structured, family-oriented life that I can't even express.
I just want to put that out there to all the strangers that
have yelled at me for working too much
and not spending enough time with my family.
We spend so much time together,
but I just don't bring them on set, or I don't bring them to,
I only brought them to one show.
In fact, anytime I pop up on the TV,
they call me Mare,
but when they see me on TV,
they scroll past and they say,
"'There's Tig Notaro, there's Tig Notaro.'"
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So you grew up, you were born in Mississippi and then moved to Houston when you were pretty
young, correct?
Or just outside of Houston?
Yes.
And one sibling, yeah?
Well, my father was a little busy on the side.
Okay. I have a brother I was raised with, and then my father had, you know,
and my mother split and he had a bunch of other.
Extras.
Yeah.
When you say a bunch of,
is the number just sort of kind of too large
or is it just sort of like maybe unclear?
No, I mean, I wonder sometimes,
but I think there's five of us.
Okay. Yeah.
My father married somebody that was not
maybe the nicest person.
Sure, sure.
So there was a lot of stuff there.
And so I was kind of selective
with how and when I saw my father. And then I met my half brother, just as my father was dying. Like when my father is dying, I went out to say goodbye and met my, my half brother.
How old was he then? How old is your half brother when you met him?
He was 19. And I was, I think, 44, something like that.
Was that a surreal moment?
Yes, it was. Actually, what was more surreal was to Maryland and I was, I had a show in Virginia
somewhere and at a club and between the early and late show, I was walking, I don't know
where, but I saw this guy leaning against a wall and I thought, that's weird, that guy
looks like my father.
And it was.
And so he had seen the early show,
he wanted to stick around for the late show
and he had brought one of my sisters.
And so I was in between the early and late show,
hanging out with them while people were coming up,
asking me to autograph things,
which was weird to sign his last name in front of him.
Then it was so weird.
I couldn't do anything to convince him that I wasn't a major star.
He thought I was the biggest star in the world and he thought I was being really modest.
It was so embarrassing because I was just like,
no, this place is sold out because of Christmas parties.
But then he stayed at a motel nearby,
and then he asked me to write my brother a letter
in my father's car in front of my father.
So that was more uncomfortable.
Yeah. Wow.
That was a long way to go.
I find anytime you're writing anything
and someone's watching you write it,
it's very disconcerting.
Yeah. Well, yeah.
It was like, hi.
Yeah. I mean, that has so many levels
of disconcerting to it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that has so many levels of disconcerting to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also writing in a car, that's always does,
something feels like something's gone wrong
like through writing in a car.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was lots of impact there.
We weren't driving, we were just in a parking lot.
Also weird though, you know, like.
Well, even weirder, when he was saying goodbye to me
and driving off, he drove a van actually,
of course he did.
He put it in reverse and he came back as I was waving
and he said, oh, can I take some pictures of you?
And I was like, sure.
So I'm standing in a parking lot
as he took some pictures of me and a disposable camera.
Did he get out of the van to take the pictures
or was it through the window?
Through the window.
And then he said, would you mind getting back into the van
and writing a letter to your brother?
And I was like, sure.
So I did and I didn't know what to say
because obviously my father is gonna read it.
I didn't know if I should go into,
hey, here's some issues to flag.
You know.
But my father meant well.
He was just a complicated.
Yeah.
Do you think, not to put you in his head,
do you think when he drove off with his, you know,
disposable full of pictures and a freshly written letter,
do you think he thought, I think that went good.
I think I got a lot out of that.
I'm going to come back with all this bounty.
Yeah. And the family is going to be happily together forever.
I think this letter is gonna be the bridge.
Yeah, yeah, bridge the gaps.
Were you close with your full brother?
My full brother, yes.
We certainly had our ups and downs over the years,
and he made really good grades and was on sports teams
and had a girlfriend.
And I was like rock and roll and I smoked
and I failed three grades and dropped out of high school
and have a seventh grade education.
And so I was just like not the coolest sister
to have
when he was shining, I think.
You know?
Yeah.
Did he ever talk to you and say like,
hey, you gotta get on the straight and narrow, Tig.
No, he just didn't talk to me.
I think he just kind of thought I was a loser for a while,
but we're definitely close.
I feel lucky that having the same life and childhood that
I don't ever share a story or feeling and have him say, what are you talking
about? Yeah. You know, like there's not ever anything at all that I say that he's like, not enough.
He's not like my son that's like, not.
Also not to bring it back to our mother again,
but our mother still drops the not.
Yeah.
Regularly.
It's a bit that she's holding on to from her teaching days.
Like whenever it popped, she's like, that one's good.
And I'm sticking with her.
I think it was just while there was like a cultural moment
where she observed all culture through her teenage boys.
And so like she still uses dis with a lot of,
freely uses dis.
Yeah, she'll tell our father to step off.
Yeah, this is-
She'll say step off big boy.
Yeah.
Oh my God, Where does she live?
New Hampshire.
New Hampshire.
Bedford, New Hampshire.
She lives in New Hampshire,
but her heart is in 1990s Yo MTV Raps episodes.
I knew you were from Bedford through Sarah.
Yes.
I didn't realize that your mother
was still speaking like that.
Did she say, I mean, this isn't very like, yo MTV raps,
but did she say happy camper and stuff like that?
No.
She's too cool for that.
She's too cool for happy camping.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're so your stepfather came into your life
when you were fairly young.
And so it was sort of the four of you were you,
do you feel like you were a tight foursome
with your mom and your stepdad and your brother?
No, it's not sound like a no.
Okay.
No, I mean, we lived in Mississippi
and my stepfather was from New York
and he was living in New Orleans,
which is right near my hometown in Mississippi.
And he was set up on a date with my mother. And
then he moved us to Texas. And it just felt like I'm very thankful for my life, every good and bad
thing. But I think that it just kind of felt like this isn't,
this doesn't feel quite right.
You know, there was a lot of,
our town was very quaint and in Mississippi
and very beautiful.
And then we were just like dropped off
in the middle of Texas, you know.
And how old were you then when the move happened?
Like five or so.
Yeah, but you have memories of the,
when you were in Houston,
you did remember Mississippi fondly?
Oh yeah, and that's where I would go on most vacations
because my stepfather was very buttoned up and rigid.
And my mother was a very free-spirited,
artistic, funny person.
And so there was just a, again,
I'm grateful that I have both influences in my life,
but it was not a match. I don't think.
Was Houston like a Houston suburb?
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Gotcha.
Yeah. I mean, it was, it became a suburb vibe.
Whereas when we moved there, it was a lot of like cow
pastures and not much going on one, you know,
a street where it's like one direction,
one way, one the other.
And now it's like, I don't even recognize the area.
It's so overdeveloped.
And so when you would go back and visit Mississippi,
who would go on that trip?
Was it all for you, or would your mom just take
you and your brother back?
My stepfather and or, well, and he would do it by himself
or he and my mother would drive us to New Orleans.
My grandmother lived in the garden district in New Orleans.
And so we would, our first stop was to go there
and visit her.
And we just, she lived in this apartment next to,
are you familiar with the Pontchartrain Hotel?
On St. Charles?
No, not really, no.
I mean, yeah, I know the words, I know the names, but yeah.
The Pontchartrain Hotel is where a street car
named Desire was supposedly written
and it just is a very famous hotel,
but my grandmother lived right next door to the punch train
and she had a standing dinner reservation there every night.
So we essentially got dropped off in New Orleans,
sat in our grandmother's apartment
and breathed in so many cigarettes.
I can't even express.
What did she smoke?
Do you remember her brand?
What did she smoke?
I mean, it was no different from my house.
My mother smoked filterless pommel.
I don't really remember.
That's a good question.
My brother would remember.
But yeah, that was our first stop was New Orleans.
And then we would get dropped off in Mississippi in my town,
Pasquers Jan, which is just dropped off to your own devices.
Two kids just go.
Now we were dropped off at our aunt and uncle's house, which was just like,
just a blast, a real free for all.
They had four kids and they were four boys
that were kind of like older brothers to us.
We spent all of our summers and everything out there.
So, there was a great anticipation annually
about the idea of going back to Mississippi?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think we enjoyed visiting our grandmother too.
It was just, when you think back,
what were we doing?
Like we were in her apartment for like a week,
just smoking and then went to Mississippi.
But yeah, it was, there was so much to do as kids,
you know, in Mississippi.
It was just like, you could run anywhere, go anywhere.
The beach was there.
Everybody knew everybody kind of vibe, fishing and-
What's the Mississippi beach vibe?
Very lazy and quiet.
In fact, when I was an adult and went out to a California beach, I almost had a
stroke because I didn't even understand. You couldn't find parking. It was just endless.
Parking lots that were crammed and people parking along the, you know, the boardwalk.
I didn't understand what I...and then bodies and bodies and bodies next to each other.
Where is the Mississippi? You just, you walk or you just pull up. My cousin was married
to this guy who had never been out of Mississippi or on a plane. And we were asking him when he went to New York,
what he thought.
And he said, well, you know,
I just, I couldn't believe, you know,
there's no place to park my truck.
Like if I lived out there,
there's no place to park my truck.
And that was his big takeaway.
Cause what my kids love so much
when we go back to Mississippi is that
people just pull up and park on lawns.
You just pull over and you park on the sidewalk.
I mean, it's nothing weird or
you just leave your car running, you leave the keys.
In fact, when Stephanie and I first got together,
I was filming my show One Mississippi in New Orleans at the time. And she was hanging out
in Mississippi with my family. And I said, Hey, what are you doing? And she said, Oh,
I'm doing this or that. And I said, Well, how are you getting around and she said oh I'm driving Uncle Mike's car
and I said you are and she was like yeah and I said do you know who Uncle Mike is
and she was like no and I said he is Rory's brother who died about a decade ago
and the family has just kept Uncle Mike's car and uses it for when people come in town and you can just park Uncle Mike's car because she had gotten Uncle Mike's car which was parked at
the tennis courts so she was dropped off there to get Uncle Mike's car but she was just like oh yeah
I'm just driving around and borrowing Uncle Mike's car. I'm like, that guy is so, so dead.
I, that, I'm, we do a lot of beach stuff in the summer.
The anxiety about parking, there's no,
you can't relax enough at the beach
to get over what you've done to yourself
for the parking element of it. It's a disaster.
It is not the case. We got married. Stephanie and I got married on the beach in my hometown
and my cousin who organized it, he was like, well, I do want to let you know, we have it reserved,
but there is a fee for the permit, but I covered it. Don't worry about it.
And Stephanie was like, well, how much was it?
Well, it was $5, but, you know, my treat.
-"Did you have a lot of people from L.A.
come out to Mississippi for your wedding?"
-"Yes. There were so many people from L.A.
and New York that came out, and they were just like,
oh, my God, I got to see what a small town, Mississippi,
gay wedding looks like. And I mean, it was so magical. I was like, I think 400 people came.
Wow. Unbelievable.
It was massive. And we just got married on the beach and my cousin's the mayor and the street was shut down
so everyone could cross over the street
to go to my other cousin's house for the reception.
And my other cousin married us.
These are the guys that are like older brothers to us.
Right.
This is Jackson, Mississippi?
Is it Jackson?
No, Jackson is where I was born.
And then we moved down to Pass Christian, Mississippi.
It's Pass Christian,
and it's the Cajun pronunciation of Christian.
Okay.
And now where do you 400 people stay
when they come to a wedding in Pass Christian?
A lot of people stay, some people got Airbnb's,
there's a casino, there are casinos in other towns
and areas, you know, it's near Biloxi,
which is very heavy gambling areas.
So, yeah, a lot of that. But I'm telling you, it was a blast,
that wedding was a blast.
And do you feel like the people,
our coastal elites who came down,
got everything they bargained for and more?
Do you think they were all just,
this is everything I possibly could have wanted
from my Mississippi wedding?
I think it was more.
And what's funny is when you fly into my town,
you go to New Orleans and then you drive,
it's a little under an hour east of New Orleans.
And there's always the vibe of,
yeah, yeah, yeah, well, we're gonna stay the majority
of our time in New Orleans and then we'll come over,
we'll meet you for dinner in Pascre Shan or we'll go to the wedding, but we're staying in New Orleans. Some
people did stay in New Orleans. And like clockwork, as soon as somebody comes over and goes to Pascre
Shan, they're like, are you kidding me? It's so beautiful, and it's so just relaxed. And
It's so beautiful and it's so just relaxed. And it's a lot of New Orleans people
that have places there or moved over there.
So I don't wanna paint it as like LA or New York,
but I would say it's a little more progressive
than when you start heading into the backwoods.
Is there like a sort of quaint main street?
Is there a center of things?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And in fact, the coffee shop there
is owned by an interracial gay couple.
And there's a line out the door every day.
It's right on the beach and it's also a bookstore
that is so, it's, on the beach and it's also a bookstore that is so it's
you have to look it up and if you're ever in New Orleans I can't recommend
enough to head over and just check the area out it's so beautiful.
Oh what a nice hot tip. Do you feel like over the course of your life like
having been there when you were little has it become like sort of this more
progressive more interesting place or did it always have that?
Well, I mean, I'm sure it's become more progressive
as I've gotten older just because, you know, things just.
Yeah, that's the wheel of time.
Yeah. Yeah.
But I think it was always an interesting place to go.
I mean, any friends of mine I brought over or girlfriends over the years.
I just grew up on boats and in the back of pickup trucks. I was talking on some podcast about water skiing in the swamps and people were like,
no way, with alligators?
I was like, yeah.
And then I got off that podcast and I reached out to my brother and I said, we water skied in swamps, right?
And he was like, yeah.
I was like, okay, people are telling me I'm lying.
And he was like, no, that's where we water skied.
Yeah.
Are there airboats down there?
Or is that?
Got to.
Got to.
Got to.
Yeah, I mean, not necessarily surrounding my town,
but I would just, the general Gulf Coast and swamp areas.
Yeah.
Have those.
Have fun.
How often would you lay eyes on an actual alligator
when you're out in the boat?
I never saw any when I was water skiing.
Gotcha.
If you'd seen one, would that have been the end of it?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I was scared of sharks. I remember going out onto the ocean with my cousins
and one of them threw me off the boat and yelled shark,
which is always a fun joke.
But, you know, and the boat is so much higher,
you can't pull yourself out of the water.
It was, I mean, I really think I was walking on water,
but I don't know if it even really crossed my mind.
Cause I think I saw the signs in the swamps that said,
you know, beware of alligators.
And I think because I was a kid, I just took it for that.
Like, okay, well, I'll be aware of those.
Yeah.
That's all it takes, then that's all it takes.
But I think I was more scared of sharks.
But you know where you can see alligators,
where I've seen the most alligators,
is on the drive to the New Orleans airport
coming from Mississippi, dead on the side of the highway.
Wow.
And just roadkill dead, like hit by a car dead.
Yeah, yeah.
Like massive alligators dead.
Wow.
That seems like something you'd want to get off the side
of the road pretty quickly, just for tourism.
Tourism level. Or it raises just for tourism, tourism level.
You know, or it raises awareness. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Be aware.
Yeah.
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So were most of your trips then back to Mississippi,
like when you were living in Houston,
did you take other family vacations?
No, my stepfather wasn't really into traveling.
So yeah, we just mainly went to New Orleans
and Pasquistan and then we, and then my grandmother,
my father's mother and my father would come get us
from Pasquistan and then bring us up to the Jackson area.
Did you feel as though you were being taken
from your favorite place
when you had to go from Past Christian to Jackson?
I definitely, it's so interesting.
I'm so used to traveling, obviously, for work.
And when people are like,
are you excited to go to blah, blah, blah?
Are you excited to? And I, blah, blah? Are you excited to?
I'm like, yeah, sure.
I'm going to do a gig.
I'm not like, oh my gosh,
I'm going to do my list.
But I still have that feeling that I had as a child.
When I crossed, it's called the Bay Bridge.
As soon as I'm getting on the Bay Bridge to
cross over Paschershan, my, I mean, heart and soul lights up beyond belief. And when I leave,
I have this sinking feeling of, God, cannot wait to go back. And I had that for sure. I used to cry every time I left past Christian, but I was
also excited to go see my grandmother and my father, even though it was my grandmother worked at a
gift shop at the Hilton Hotel and rented Avis rental cars.. So my brother and I would just play in
her gift shop and take everything that we wanted.
That's nice.
Yeah. Well, she encouraged us to.
Then my father,
we were always happy to see him, you know, he just
didn't have a lot of money.
And he lived in just kind of weird, sketchy areas.
And his table was a card, a folding card table with loose change,
because he worked at a pizza restaurant
and didn't have a bed,
just had sheets and a pillow on the floor
and had guns lying around.
And it was just that kind of thing, you know?
He had pistols and knives in his cowboy boots.
And that was our vacation,
was hanging out at pizza restaurant.
Were any of the half siblings around in those times
or they came later?
They came later.
Yeah, they came, I think when I was around 12 or something.
And that's when there was, you know, his wife
Right. And that's when there was, you know, his wife.
Right. Went into the picture and wasn't, you know,
not great memories.
And then you were turned into a rocker
who was smoking cigarettes and like,
you were close to that on the cusp.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think, cause your dad would come and pick you up
and he'd bring you to Jackson.
And so he knows he's getting his kids.
He knows he's bringing them.
Do you think that he tried a little bit
to clean up before you got there?
Like what you saw,
do you think it had actually been a little bit worse?
Like, do you think that maybe he was like,
I should put the guns in the shoes.
Yeah, I don't think there was any thought
about anything whatsoever.
We just went to see him and then we would play like,
Pac-Man and asteroids at the pizza restaurant
that he worked at and then we went back to his place.
And my brother, I don't remember this,
but my brother was like, he's endlessly amused that, you know, this, these neighbors had come
over to see if we wanted to go.
Um, I can't remember if it was squirrel or raccoon hunting.
And my brother was like, um, yeah.
Uh, my, our father isn't home right now.
We have to wait and ask him, but it was like, we're not actually interested in cone hunting.
It was really just visiting people that we loved.
And I think as far as we knew,
we were having a great summer.
Yeah.
And so how many days, so your summer was in Mississippi
and you would go visit your dad for how long of the summer?
Was it just a couple of days or a week?
Well, I think we would start,
like I think we'd go to New Orleans for like maybe a week
and then probably pass Christian for like two to three weeks
and then we'd go up to Jackson and Hattiesburg,
which is actually where my father lived.
My grandmother was in Jackson.
And he would mainly,
oh boy, he would come visit us at our grandmother's house,
but sometimes he would just be staying in a motel
and we would go visit him at a motel.
He also said he was involved with the Mississippi mafia.
I don't know what was going on.
But so I think we were in Jackson and Housberg
probably a week or two.
Do you think he told you the mafia thing to show off
or do you think he just thought you'd find it interesting,
or do you think he was just making it up?
Well, he didn't tell me about the Mississippi mafia
until that time he visited me in Virginia.
The next morning after he had surprised me on my show,
he had taken me to IHOP for breakfast,
and we were sitting there talking.
And that's when he filled me in on his involvement in the Mississippi mafia in the 70s.
And he said, you know, I don't know if you remember, but I carried a lot of guns and was,
I can't remember how he described it, but he was always like up to something.
You know what I mean? Like, but I don't think anything was really going on. And he had a CB
in his car and he was always talking to truckers. And it seemed like my father for a while also
father for a while also worked as a security guard at a motel. And I think that when there was weird behavior at the motel, he would call the cops and there
would be like a bust that would happen.
And as an adult, after sitting at breakfast with him at IHOP when he was telling me
about his Mississippi mafia days,
I kind of added up that maybe he thought
he was a little more involved with stuff than he was.
And so it was just kind of...
What was, when you went up to see him,
like what was your mom's vibe with you guys going out?
Like what was their relationship later in life?
Was she like, all right, you've got him for a week,
or did she give you guys a big speech about like,
don't touch any of the guns in his boots or anything?
I don't even know if she...
You know, it's the 70s.
I don't feel like people were as...
My parents weren't as in tune with, you know,
I think my mother and my stepfather
were just like, bye-bye.
Yeah.
And had no idea what was going on at his place.
But my mother never really talked about my father.
I think that they met in college in Mississippi,
and my father and my uncle were friends.
And my uncle introduced my father to my uncle were friends. And he, my uncle introduced my father to my mother.
And I'm pretty sure my mother got pregnant at a wedlock
and then married my father.
And then they split up when I was six months.
And so I don't know if she had too much information on him.
It is funny after a certain point of time,
she could ask you, what's that guy like?
You know, like at some point you passed him.
Emily, I think kind of always in love with my mother.
It just like lit up whenever he talked about her.
Was she, was your mother still alive
when you did one Mississippi, when you did the show about,
because she passed away.
Yeah, yeah.
She had died a couple of years before.
And in fact, I landed back in LA.
I got a voicemail that my father had died.
Oh, wow.
Was your, I would assume based on the amount of pride
it seems both you and your extended family have about the area.
People must have been so excited that you did that show.
Yeah, I just wanted to show,
I know all of the cliche bad stuff
about the South and Mississippi,
but, and I'm well aware of it in the state
and areas history and the current state. However, I did have a very magical time in New Orleans and Mississippi.
My family are as flawed as every other family. But what I'm most proud of
is that they didn't have to move to a big city to accept me, you know, or have an openness, more impressive than if you move off and you meet people on the coast,
West Coast and East Coast and you come back and you go,
yeah, I have some gay friends or I have some black friends or whatever it is.
I feel very lucky and I wanted to present my experience.
A lot of people, after they saw my show,
they said that they were waiting
for my big coming out moment on the show,
but I wanted to show,
it wasn't hard for me to come out to my family.
It was-
Yeah, that's nice. It's, I wanted to come out to my family. Right, yeah, that's nice.
I wanted to show my version of Mississippi,
especially in the first season.
The second season I wanted to go into
more of the political and social issues,
but I wanted to set it up the first season
with the good that I experienced.
Have you taken the boys back there?
Do they?
Yeah, they've been, I think, probably 15 times now.
That's great.
And do they look forward to it?
They love it so much.
And yeah, we go all the time.
We actually just got back.
We were there two weeks ago. It's really nice. And I was, I got some award in Jackson.
I had gone there with my stepfather and my brother to receive the award. And we were walking after
dinner down some street in downtown Jackson and some guy got up from his table
and ran out of the restaurant
and chased me down the sidewalk
and thanked me for shining a light on the state
in positive ways, you know?
Because I always feel bad for people
that are in those areas
that don't represent what people think of.
Yeah, it's so easy to just stereotype it and broad brush it. And it's obviously it's so nuanced
and there's so many different kinds of people
and they're everywhere.
Yeah. Yeah.
And there's rough stuff and racism
in other states too.
Yeah, of course.
New York and California and Illinois.
But as soon as I say I'm from Mississippi,
people are like, oh, what was that like?
Right.
You know, like, what was it like being gay,
you know, being gay and from Mississippi?
What is your family?
And I'm like, my family hosted the biggest gay weddings,
probably ever in Mississippi.
Yeah, so step off, big boy.
Where's your wife from?
New York and California.
Gotcha, and does she love it as well?
She loves it.
And when we first, I tell this story in my HBO special,
but when we first met and I told her,
I was from Mississippi, she was like, Mississippi.
She said, I picture people barefoot there.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
I said, I get it.
And yes, people run around barefoot, but they have jobs, my family is civilized,
whatever, just like other people's families.
And then when Stephanie was coming out to meet my family,
everybody rented one of those huge 16 passenger vans
and they all piled in it and drove from Mississippi
to New Orleans. They spent the afternoon in the French Quarter walking around, hanging
out, killing time until Stephanie's flight arrived. And then, you know, you can drink
in your car there and you can open. Okay, so they brought a cooler in the van. And, and
we're in the French Quarter. And I said, Hey, oh, my gosh,
Stephanie's plane is landing soon. We got to wrap it up and
go to the airport. So everybody gets back in the van. And we
drive to the airport. I drove the airport, I was sober. And I
pull up to right outside baggage claim. And I said, airport, I was sober, and I pull up to right outside baggage claim and I said, okay,
stay here. I'm going to go in, get Stephanie and I will meet you right out here. And they're like,
all right, I go in, I get Stephanie. I'm so excited to see her. It's, you know, we've been
to get it's our first year together. She's about to meet my family and my family's so excited to
meet her. We walk out and we're just like looking at each other and she goes, is that your family?
And I look over and they are right where we parked, but they had pulled the cooler out
on the sidewalk and they had taken their shoes off because we had been walking around the French Quarter
all day, so they're barefoot going, whoop!
They're dancing!
And just like 15 family members going nuts,
screaming with a cooler.
And I was like, oh my God, yes, that is my family.
It's really great. I also think that, you know, I'm hoping that Miss Stephanie saw that she was like, oh my God, yes, that is my family. It's really great.
I also think that, you know,
I'm hoping that Miss Stephanie saw that she's like,
I don't know why I ever looked down my nose
at not having shoes on.
These people are having the time of their life.
Oh my God, Stephanie is like, you know,
look, she has her issues with,
she is as far left as you can get,
but as open and accepting and loving as my family is,
they're not far,
far left by any stretch of the imagination.
There have been conversations where,
not this past Easter,
but the Easter before,
everybody was sitting up until late,
talking and drinking and getting into every political and
social issue. It's 11 o'clock at night. I'm sitting there going, oh my god, I'm not going to get into
any of this. And I could see Stephanie getting irritated because if somebody does not fully
get on board and understand these views that she clearly understands and feels.
I can see it escalating. I said to her, you know, for better or worse, it's not going to be awkward,
but if you want to leave, we can leave. But if you're okay, and sleep on this,
nobody's going to bat an eye. Nobody's holding a grudge. You know what I mean? but if you're okay and sleep on this,
nobody's gonna bat an eye. Nobody's holding a grudge, you know what I mean?
But she definitely feels like she loves that town so much.
She loves my family.
They love her.
I just think that you probably in mixed company,
I just think that you probably in mixed company,
no matter where you are at 11 o'clock, have been drinks.
Yeah, it might not be the time to come to a- Might not.
General agreement.
Is it the best feeling,
because my wife has this with our kids,
but is it the best feeling
that your kids love the place you love?
Yes and I talk about it all the time my gratitude because you know Stephanie and I jokingly call each other country mouse and city mouse and I look I'm I'm pretty city mouse too, but I've got a lot of country mouse in me.
And I just love that my kids devour it when we go there. And that they can't they I can see it in
their eyes. And they just it's that I'm'm seeing it all over again when we arrive.
We went to New Orleans for my cousin's wedding and my son was like, and then we're going
to go to Pasquershan, right?
And I said, well, not this trip.
We're just going to, he couldn't comprehend.
We're just right there.
Why would we?
And I said, well, the whole family's in New Orleans
for the weekend.
Why would we go to Pastor Shand?
He just, they love it so, so much.
That's great.
Yeah, my wife grew up in New Mexico.
Kids love New Mexico.
She would spend summers on Martha's Vineyard,
which our kids do.
They love Martha's Vineyard.
And they've never been to a place I ever lived.
They've been in New Hampshire, huh?
Sure, they drove through it once, I think, by the way.
Barely, barely.
So do you wish that they were more connected
to where you're from?
You know, the nice thing is we, our parents are close enough
to drive down and see us here and just be having three kids.
Like, it's easier to have home games with your parents
than take them on the road.
But I, yeah, one day I would like them to, you know.
They're only eight, six, and almost three.
You'll get around to it.
You'll get around to it, Suv.
Yeah, one day.
I mean, you live pretty close to New Hampshire, right?
Yeah, we do.
Yeah.
It's pretty astute, Tig.
You've seen some maps.
You've seen some maps.
Yeah.
I have some plans.
I have some plans.
What does your wife think of New Hampshire?
I think it's fine. You know, I think of New Hampshire? It's fine.
I think that's probably the best way to describe it.
I think she thought it was going to be quainter. Like that it was a, you know, I think that she thought of our-
She thought it was a Pasquash Jam.
Yeah, she thought it was Robert Frosty,
like where's the little downtown.
And I love our hometown, but it is,
wouldn't you say Posh, it's more suburbs?
Yeah, I mean, it has like its little old part of town
with like the really old buildings, the town hall,
the library, that section of town,
but there's not, it's not like that's a good
little pedestrian area to sort of walk through.
We don't have like the coffee shop that's also a bookstore.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, yeah.
We love it.
I love it.
I love it too.
This has been wonderful, Tig,
and we are now going to ask,
oh, I have a real quick question about your podcast.
I don't remember if this is,
I saw you went on Colbert,
and you were talking about Strike Force V,
and you said that there were,
there's five hosts and you said three of them were handsome
and you didn't name which one.
I don't want you to name all three,
but am I one of the three handsome?
I mean, have you seen your face?
I was sitting here looking at both of you going,
well look, I mean, you both got a handsome face.
Oh, sorry, good, good, good.
It's nice to hear.
I know, when I made that joke, I thought, you know,
I mean, there was a fleeting moment where I thought,
is this rude or will I hurt feelings
or will people understand me?
Oh, it's great.
The egos, the egos and those five men,
you had to know you were gonna blow up
little parts of their brains.
But it was really expertly delivered.
So that was what I, I mean, obviously I had to go.
I'd get some validation, but.
Of course, of course.
It stuck with him.
All right, Posh is gonna ask you some questions.
All right, Tig, you can only pick one of these.
Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational?
Well, as a person with a seventh grade education,
I would say that I like to relax.
Yeah, let's not start educating now.
No.
What is your favorite means of transportation?
Train, plane, automobile, boat, bike, walking, something else?
Water skis while gatorskis.
Gatorskying.
I mean, I, you know, I, I love, I walk every day.
So, I think when I'm on vacation, I do enjoy renting a boat.
Um, that's, that's one of my favorites. Can you I do enjoy renting a boat.
That's one of my favorites. Can you drive a boat?
Are you like from, okay.
Not only can I drive a boat, I can park a boat, okay?
That's, yeah, that's the hard part.
That's the country mouse in me.
But I can also drive a motorcycle.
I can drive and back up a truck with a trailer on the back.
If you think that's easy, it's not.
Yeah.
It is for Country Mouse though.
Yeah.
My fiance is an equestrian
and she's got like a three horse trailer.
And I don't even like moving her truck
to the other side of the street,
if there's street cleaning,
but she hooks up that trailer and drives to Montana.
And it's just like, okay.
Yeah, I cannot.
If you could take a vacation with any family,
alive or dead, real or fictional,
other than your own family,
what family would you like to take a family vacation with?
Vacation with dead people.
Well, when they're alive,
I don't think you wanna go when they're-
Yeah, they're not.
There's six boxes and me on this vacation.
This is gonna sound weird.
I am still very close with my first girlfriend
and I'm very close with her 83, 84 year old parents
and her siblings. And I'm very close with her 83, 84 year old parents
and her siblings. And in fact, my wife and kids and I also go visit them
in Ohio in the summers and stay with her parents.
And I, when I was younger, my dream was like
to make enough money to take her parents on
their dream vacation, which was to go to Ireland, which they've already done.
So I'm like, ah, but they're so fun.
And they're so funny. And I love them all so much. And our families connect
so deeply with them, that I think that it would be. I love
going to see them in Ohio, but I would love to actually go
someplace and explore with them, especially her parents in their eighties now.
Like I just think it would be so fun
to do that with Max and Finn.
That's great.
Cause that's one,
that's an answer that actually feels achievable.
And-
Instead of people are like Bart Simpson.
I'll go with the Simpsons. Well, it seems achievable, but as the years take by,
I'm like, oh God, we're like 83, 80, something like 84 now.
Yeah.
And it's getting tricky.
So that's why we go to Ohio.
Yeah, but to get away,
I can see the benefit of getting away
from the trappings of home.
Like when you're home, you're still gonna do laundry.
You're still gonna like, you know, yeah.
I think that's a great answer.
If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?
Oh my gosh.
My immediate family with Stephanie and Max and Finn?
Yeah, or extended family. just a member of your family.
If you consider them part of your family,
I guess just a friend doesn't count, but Stephanie counts.
No offense to Stephanie or Finn,
because they are absolutely delightful
and remarkable travelers.
But my son, Max, reminds me of myself in ways as a child
where I was always looking for some way to live off the land
or discover dinosaur bones or follow a creek or river
really far back.
And he just has that in him, you know,
where he, when I take him on a hike,
he brings a canteen and a compass and a bunch of snacks.
And he's, you know, in case we get trapped somewhere.
So to picture Max on a deserted Island,
I would love to see what he imagined
and the way he would try to make it
like we were in danger every second
and telling me to come get under the shade of the tree
and do I think we can eat these berries?
And I just, I can't even imagine
what he would be thinking of on a deserted island.
Excellent.
Oh, now I want it, so.
Yeah, really.
Now this is the achievable dream for you.
Is your home, would you consider
Pasquers Chan your hometown?
Yeah. Okay, well, I was gonna, the question is, would you consider Pasquerschan your hometown? Yeah.
Okay, well, I was gonna, the question is,
would you recommend Pasquerschan as a vacation destination?
You've pretty much already answered that.
I feel like, yeah.
That's almost maybe just the scene of this.
I would say yes, but there's really only one hotel there.
Yeah.
Over the Bay Bridge is a town called Bay St. Louis.
And Pasquistian is pretty sleepy.
Like it's got a few restaurants and a few shops
and the coffee shop and just the beautiful sleepy beach.
But Bay St. Louis has antique stores
and ice cream parlors and
rooftop bars that overlook the ocean and
like live bands playing and just a lot going on.
So I would say,
no offense to Pascal Shan,
but if you're looking to vacation,
Bay St. Louis is so quaint and beautiful and has so many,
exactly what you're talking about as far as the main strip, the main street, and
it's so beautiful and has so many shops. Yeah. You should look it up. Google, Day St. Louis and Google Pastor Shan.
It's rare that in one of these conversations,
I'm actually like,
oh, I'd like to actually go stay there.
Like I'll go stay in Tacoma.
But yeah, this is ringing some good bells for me.
This has been a real reverse Tacoma.
I would say Tacoma of all our places we've been.
I feel like our Tacoma guests also were not suggesting
that you go to Tacoma.
No, that's what I say, like Tacoma,
even from people who came from Tacoma
has not done well on the podcast.
Yeah, although I do think it's probably beautiful
being in the Pacific Northwest, but anyhow, back to this.
Seth has our final questions.
Tig, have you been to the Grand Canyon?
I have been by there.
Could you see it?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
I didn't do a trip to the Grand Canyon.
I've been to like the Canyonlands and Utah and stuff.
And I want to take my kids to the Grand Canyon.
And my mother hung upside down on a railing
into the Grand Canyon.
So there's your answer, all things Grand Canyon.
So you weren't there when she hung up?
No.
I almost didn't make it into this world.
Oh, this was before you were born.
Yeah.
And was she just a daredevil
who just wanted to hang over the edge?
She was wild.
This was a story she told in her later years
to let her kids know what a wild child she was?
Well, there is not a normal story about my mother.
So that was like just, yeah, she hung upside down.
Yeah.
And just like truly.
I feel like we've really, at the very tail end
of a podcast, we realized that we've just left
this completely unmind.
We barely talked about your mother.
Talk about old guns in his boots.
He got plenty of time. And then we're like, you're literally, yeah, she hugged over the
Grand Canyon. That was like the most normal thing she ever did.
This has been a delight. Everybody, Tig Notaro's special hello again, available to stream now on Prime
Video. Tig, it was just the best to see you again.
It was the best to see you. And if I can also encourage people to listen to my podcast,
Handsome with Fortune Feimster and May Martin, it is just only nonstop ridiculousness. How many have you done?
How long have you guys been doing it?
I don't know, since maybe August, something like that.
All right.
What about you?
It's, we were about the same, right?
When we started in like, yeah, June, July, it's a blast.
You get it, we get the right people to talk to.
It's a blast.
Yeah, well, you guys should submit,
we have people submit video questions
and so you don't have to spend any time with us.
You can just be like asking us a question
and then go about your life.
You'll be getting a question from us very soon.
Give our love to May and Fortune and thanks so much.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Yeah, you could stay out in New Orleans.
A town that gets all of the press.
Go throw some beads and maybe see some boobs
But an hour east is the best
Buy a book and drink some coffee
Lounge on the beach and get sun-kissed
On the beach and get sun kissed
Just drive across the Bay St. Louis Bridge
Your heart and soul will start to lift
Pass Christian, there's gators, just be aware. Past Christian, you park your truck anywhere.
Past Christian, it's down in Mississippi.
You don't believe it, but you just gotta go and see. You