Fat Chance Podcast - Ep.38 - Petar Oklobdzija

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

The lengths we used to go to buy weed...

I went to the Packer game yesterday, but I went and I didn't go in. So I didn't buy tickets to the game. My buddy, you know Sam Walsh, he was visiting and then his dad, he's giving me the nickname the common denominator, so I don't do anything wrong, but whenever I'm with Sam or Jake Gane, I don't know if you're friends with him at all. I know Jake Gane. I play baseball with him. They tend to get in trouble. So whether it's Sam going to jail or Jake going to jail or randomly, you know, just dumb things. And so as a joke, I was like, what if I just bought a ticket to get on your bus and i showed up

in the morning and he just he's like what the fuck he literally like i have so i have these t-shirts made up now my brother made them for the show and one is of sam and i just got on the bus and it was like out of a movie his head's down and sam sees me we lock eyes he's laughing his ass i was like this isn't gonna to go well. And I just go, here, Sam, I have a shirt for you. And Mr. Walsh looks up and goes, what the fuck? Jesus Christ. But, yeah, we just went and drank there.

They went into the game. But, dude, it was pretty cold. I did not want to go. It had been freezing all fucking weekend. It was my girlfriend's birthday this weekend as well. Walking around from bar to bar. It was a shit show. It was cold as shit.

Dude, I'm a... I, As much as I love the seasons, I think I appreciate summer and fall more. It's way too long. Winter is way too fucking long here. Yeah, well, it's been shorter lately. Now it's just starting to get cold in November. It used to be end of September. Yeah, that is true.

You guys' football seasons, you guys are freezing my ass off going to those games. Terrible. Especially when you're not playing as a sophomore or even a junior. You're just standing there. I'm like, why? Why am I here? Yeah.

Okay, I was thinking about this. How do we know each other? Mutual Franklin friends over the years. Okay. Because you've always been around, right? Since at least grade school, at least. i i never went to a franklin grade school i went to saint mary's and his corners and then i just i literally was like racking my brain since you and i were talking about you coming on i'm like how like what is the first instance and i'm

like i can't think of it and i i was like feeling super shitty i'm like i don is the first instance? And I'm like, I can't think of it. And I was feeling super shitty. I'm like, I don't know if there is one. I don't think there is, truly. It's just that we've always been around each other. Yeah, I mean, you have either neighbors or we went to school with each other. None of that. No, no. None of that.

No. Well, I went to Marquette High instead of Franklin. But I was always around Franklin, at least freshman, sophomore year of high school. Yeah, you were around a lot. And all those fucking Village Club kids too. I was there from young until at least high school.

It might be Village Club then. It might be. With Joel? Joel Vetrano. Yeah. So Joel used to take me to Village Club. That's how his sister

would babysit us. We're just going to take you to the pool and then I got lifeguards to watch you too. That might be it. Yeah. And the twins and braxton

i grew up with them and coos all those kids so i grew up with those guys into that group recently yeah well that's unfortunate i love those guys they're nice i managed to avoid them for at least five years now um where'd you go to grade school uh robinwood kindergarten ben franklin all the way through. And then Forest Park. Okay. I was going to say Ben Franklin had a middle school. They all go into Forest Park, right? They all go to Forest Park, yeah.

Dude, what happened to that school? It is a university now. I know. I live two doors down. You really? Yeah, we got to watch the whole fucking thing. Plus Luxembourg Gardens went down as well. What's that?

It was like this wholesale plant place that was right next to the middle school. Yeah, a bunch of greenhouses and shit. The owner was probably growing pot in the back. He was a great guy. They moved to Florida recently. He was definitely growing pot then. Oh, yeah. No, I remember, I think I've said on here before, when I had Cody guest around,

she came to visit one weekend weekend and I picked her up and we were driving around and hanging out. And I'm like, what is that? Because I thought, I was like, I think we're approaching

the middle school. She goes, I don't know. I'm like, where are we? I'm like, did I get lost? And I'm like,

this is the fucking school? Yeah. Like all the soccer fields, how many do you think there were? Like there could have been 12. There was at least three or so full-size fields. But yeah,

they just basically, they did what my parents did. They built a house in their backyard and knocked down the old house. Really? Yeah, so we did like three doors down. Oh, shit. Yeah, so same thing. It was pretty ridiculous, too.

And they're trying to turn that big green space that lines up to our yard into like a baseball or soccer field. Oh, really? Yeah, because they bought the land next door. Your parents did? No, the school district oh no yeah the school district well they need somewhere to play and they got rid of all of it yeah so we'll see what they do we're gonna be one of the first people to know because they're building on our backyard

yeah so we'll see that could be obnoxious as fuck my mom's open tennis courts i'm hoping soccer field so it's quiet because nobody will go to the soccer games yeah i mean how but also how many people in franklin are playing tennis a lot really yeah plus all the they could use it like the village club uses it uses theirs they get all the moms they can start leagues and all that good shit they can make all sorts of money i guess yeah i think village club is the only place i've really seen people play tennis i don't think i've ever played a single match tennis in my life they're matches right that's That's how bad it is. I would go to Lions Legend or what's the one on 76th that's by the Village Club?

Oh, that's just Greendale's Recreational Center or whatever with all the basketball courts and stuff. We'd go there and we'd play talker. So we would just take a soccer ball and 2v2 and that was our version of tennis. Yeah, well, we used to... We would play points. I mean, me and Nicolale had a lot of grueling matches growing up.

Those were always the best. Tennis? Yeah. Every two times he'd beat me, I'd beat him once, but it was always close and he was a competitive motherfucker. He's very competitive.

Oh, yeah. He's a dick sucker at sports, man. Even video games games i was learning how to play fifa when we were like ninth grade and he just wrecked me ruthlessly like 15-0 you're either like really good at fifa or you play every once in a while for fun there is no in between no there is like there i like i like watching the people that are good too. I'm God all. I got it when I was in high school early on, and I enjoyed it. But I put it on the easiest mode possible. I did create my player.

I got like 10 goals a game. And then you see someone play an online match. I'm like, I can't even get the ball. No, no. It's ruthless out there. And you're usually losing to some 11-year-old fucker who used his daddy's credit card to buy all his players. Exactly. He's telling you your mom's a whore and suck his dick and like

dude your voice is yeah i mean that's when you tell him that's when you tell him you're 10 so they feel a little bit worse sorry bro i didn't mean it good game get better um that's uh yeah people love just bringing down an older person it It's better on Chell, though. It's weird. Most of the NHL games I've played, if I get cracked, they just thank you for finishing the game. Oh, good try, bud. Thanks for playing through, man. That was a lot of fun. You'll get better someday.

Do people rage quit a lot in both of those? I'm assuming in Chell. In Chell, yeah, because you get the nice Canadians and the angry Canadians. The nice Canadians will play through, and even if you're losing, they'll pull their fucking goalie and let you score to make you feel like even more of an asshole, but they still get to pretend they're nice. So that's even better.

Down like 6-0 in the second period, the guy pulls his goalie. We'll give you one. Yeah, we'll give you one. Then he scores two more. It's fucking ridiculous. The intricacies of those games. At their core, they seem like the most basic games up down shoot x's kick the ball yeah yet you watch them like hey man how did you just rainbow headbutt it

that's not even a thing but it's impressive and i've never gotten that into video games where i was like i took or the patience to do it my attention span form is like 30 minutes. And I'm like, ah, this isn't benefiting me at all. No, I do it to pass the time. I think I had a PS two and no PS three until a year ago. I bought an Xbox when I knew COVID was coming.

I said, I got to get something for myself. I got a, I, I say that, but I bought a switch like a month ago for flights. Yep. So when I'm flying out,

like every once in a while, like I get sick of listening to my when i'm flying out like every once in a while like i get sick of listening to my music or um like you can put a podcast on but i think when i have podcasts on at home or something like that i'm working out or i'm driving yeah it's bad you're just sitting on a plane you're like i need something else to do so i'm like i that it goes by like that yeah i've been going to serbia a little bit more often now on those trips and you don't they cut it up so it's not that bad you have to go to either germany or austria okay because there's no direct flights

from chicago there and yeah it's usually just an edible but sometimes i don't fall asleep so then as you try to get drunk i don't know how long are your flights usually they over five hours uh they're usually like anywhere between two and four ah I don't know how long are your flights usually? Are they over five hours? They're usually like anywhere between two and four. Ah, you don't have enough time. Yeah. The fail safe is just getting hammered and passing out.

I've done it even on those. The most drunk I've ever been on a flight was a 45-minute flight. Jesus. Yeah. How'd you find the time? So, I was living in Florida,

in Miami at the time, and my mom and brother came down to visit, and they wanted to go they're like let's do a week at universal and all this stuff like we haven't been there in a while yeah like doing it as an adult is actually like it's not we're not like disney family by any means like i don't think we stepped foot in disney um but when you're an adult and you go to those things they're actually kind of entertaining like downtown i guess downtown disney restaurants and

shit like that it's fun yeah we did that for orlando right yeah yeah we did that once too or like epcot and so my mom flew back to uh wisconsin one of my brothers flew to arizona and i just had to fly down to fort lauderdale and my flight that i my parents booked for me, we're like, yeah, yours is at 9 p.m., but ours is at 3, and we have to check out of our hotel by 11, so you're going to sit in the airport until your flight. So I got there at 2 o'clock and then sat at a bar next to my gate,

and thank God, it was like a cool bar right by where my gate and thank god it was like a cool bar right by where my gate was and i drank through three different groups of passengers for flights one guy came back because his flight got like delayed so he got everyone like you're still here i'm like dude i'm gonna be here for the next five hours got on the plane and they're like do you guys want drinks or anything like it's not even like when it's that sort of a flight, they don't just assume, like come by with the beverage card. They're like, if you guys want something, hit the button.

I hit it right away. I'm like, can I have a double? I'm like, what do you have for booze? She's like, booze? I go, yeah, all right. This 45 minutes is going to suck if I don't drink. She's like, I got this, this, and this. It was like nasty tequila.

I don't trust tequila or any of that shit from airplanes. I'm like, I'll take the scotch, double shot of scotch. He goes, okay. I'm like, down that. It's a drunk, so I'm getting off a plane. My buddy picked me up and goes, what happened? I've been at the airport for nine hours. Yeah, I have experience like that too.

I was going, like I said, to serbia but our flight from o'hare was late so we're me and about five other passengers are running to this different terminal because they try to make it really hard to get into fucking serbia from austria because they just hate each other and as we're getting there the flames the plane is rolling out and we're like fuck fuck so we're stuck there now for five hours yeah meanwhile i'm sitting in a bar getting hammered and i see this girl somebody in the community that i know land in that area and then go to novi sad where my cousins are and i'm like holy shit like where'd you just come from blah blah blah she's a airline stewardess she's like oh i got lucky a bunch of people missed their flight from chicago so i got to take their seats and i'm like you fucking bitch that's what i see i haven't seen

her in like three years too and i'm like fuck you fuck you bought me a drink when i was there it was fine but yeah i spent five hours in a freaking i think it was in vienna airport airports there's something about just waiting in an airport like if you told me my flight was canceled and i ever delayed and i'm still at home and i wait five hours i'm not as upset but the fact that i'm in the airport i'm like fuck this shit like give me something because i can't sit here like there's no comfortable seating anywhere do you want to lounge it you got to be what a member for some airline that's true and it's usually a specific airline that i've never heard of and you don't have the credit card for it exactly it's like i'm not gonna i'm not traveling a hundred thousand miles in the next month for this to be worth it um i had i flew back from

arizona three weeks ago and we landed in chicago and i think the whole flight system's fucked right now because they don't have pilots or flight attendants. We got there and they're like, someone is in our gate. We have to wait for them to leave before we can unload you guys. I'm like, is there an empty gate? I don't fucking care where I get off.

He goes, we got to wait. Could be a half hour. I'm like, we're already here and I'm waiting 30 minutes on this plane the guy to the left of me is one of those guys that can't accept the fact that he can't do anything about it so he's bitching the entire i sat on that runway for an hour and a half after i landed waiting for a plane to clear so we were in arizona during halloween weekend yeah i was in phoenix too were you i was there for a wedding i was there for i did two podcasts one with sammy and then sam had a halloween party his parents still don't we don't tell him his parents anymore when i hang out with him really like we were on the bus and i brought

something out he goes fuck the fuck up they don't i'm like all right okay we've talked about me living in miami with him so many times on here. His parents don't know. I was there for six and a half months. Really? What the hell are you doing? This? This? Well, this is when I kind of started to realize this is what I wanted to do.

And so I started doing this down there. We both worked for Ultra while we were down there. Sam was in school. But initially, I just moved down there because I didn't want to be in Wisconsin. I had just graduated. And I'm like, Mike, when you were at Marquette did you oh no where'd you go to college I went to DePaul for a couple years and I finished at UWM okay so when you're at UWM at any point when you're like a senior I did one extra semester but any point where you had a bar your last little bit

and you're like I my time's up yeah Yeah. I was like that in Chicago, too. You want to say? I looked around, and I'm like, I used to come in here, and I would know every single person. And as a social person, I like being able to bounce around in groups. And now it's like, nothing against the group of people I came with, but if this is all I'm hanging out with tonight, what the fuck? And if I don't recognize anyone, they all look younger than me.

The kids were starting to come at like 8 p.m. to get into the bar because they all had fakes and they thought they could get in without a bouncer. I was like, my time's up. And I texted Sam.

I was like, dude, can I come down? He goes, absolutely. And stayed on his couch for six months. Jesus. That's not a bad way to be in Miami at least. Well, we live in what I would call the retirement community

of Miami. So like 30 minutes north of the city. Our oldest neighbors might have been, or youngest neighbors might have been 50. So,

it was still fun. We went up to Fort Lauderdale a decent amount. Fort Lauderdale was a good time. Really? I would never have expected that. It's, well I guess,

so you have two choices when you're there, especially where we live. So we're here, Miami's down here, Fort Lauderdale. It's either 30, 40 minutes, either direction. Go spend potentially $500 a night down in Miami or $60 a night and then run into Spring Breakers every once in a while. It was just a different crowd, but we would find hole-in-the-wall bars and just there's nightclubs and we're in the one

Jameson bar in the corner with the guys smoking a pack of cigs. That's usually the best part. They're our favorites. I love those. Yeah, a lot of my friends like the EDM and just fucking... I can't do it. Yeah, going to clubs. Celeste in chicago where the fuck your personality your demeanor alone just like i can't imagine you sitting there and like

oh no i can't picture you being almost energetic with your body movements nah nah it takes uh that's summer skiing i can do that maybe but other than that it's no my girlfriend resents it too because it was her birthday this weekend i'm trying to take her to a club or something fun. And we couldn't do anything crazy because I'm going to Canada this weekend to visit my grandmother. Yeah. And if you fucking test positive to go see your grandmother for the first time in two years, you're a dick.

Yeah. Oh, my God. You're an asshole. Yeah, regardless if it's your girlfriend's birthday or not. So we had to stay around here. So I'm trying to figure out somewhere to fucking go this weekend. And I'm like, let's go here, here. There's some music here, whatever the fuck. She's like, you won't even fucking dance with me. Every time you go there, you make it known you don't want to fucking go this weekend and i'm like oh let's go here here there's some music here whatever fuck she's like you won't even fucking dance with me every time you go there you

make it known you don't want to fucking be there so let's just go to a bar and get drunk and be fine you sound like that's what we did when i walk in i saw you at uh what was that i don't even know what the fuck that i hated it i despised it too i fucking hated it so when i saw you downstairs it was my buddy's birthday that day and i'm like jake he's like we can leave i'm like your birthday i have no problem being here but i'm going to take breaks from doing this like i'm gonna go sit down and have a conversation with someone down there and get drunk because i can't there's no. I call it laser beam music for a reason. It's fucking insane.

And that's why I think it's funny I worked for Ultra for when they were writing. Yeah, that doesn't add up. It was cool meeting people and I didn't have to go into the venue. But when we did, I was like,

I don't mind someone like Odeza every once in a while. But we saw like Martin Garrix and Alenium and I found out they do their like hardcore stuff at those things. So I'm sitting there, I'm like, everyone is drugged out of their mind. If you go to like an EDM festival, if they're like Ultra, it's all water tents, Red Bull, and there's like two beer vendors in the entire,

it was on an island. So the entire island, two beer vendors, and it was Michelob Ultra for like a play on words. I'm like, this is stupid. And it was like $18 a beer. Yeah, it's good. Shitty booze or piss water. Yeah. Yeah, those aren't worth it.

I'd rather sit at a bar, drink some good whiskey or some beer, and listen to actual music over, you know. Smoke a cigar or something, yeah. We went to that place called shakers i forget what road that's on downtown by the bradley clocks by the bradley clock it's a beautiful cigar bar it's like super old school new orleans inspired you should check that place out we went there for a couple of drinks and a cigar on friday night it was actually packed good music really yeah nice setting we did that in miami a lot that was like our thing was like let's just go to the cigar lounge yeah i enjoyed that and that was my favorite place in madison too is a place called maduro okay it was never super packed we always

got the tables in like a back corner it was like a little cutout round table you can get like max five people in there and we would usually go or like let's not go to the college bars tonight and then just chill it's just five guys wasted off whiskey and uh head high a cigar and a half and it's good conversation and it's anywhere anything we from like religion whether you're religious or not we would talk about it um you would try and stay away from politics like we don't need to get angry at each other fucking aliens conspiracy theories women and it's like the best nights out are like that where you can actually have a fucking conversation you just express your thoughts

instead of trying to be like oh dude you want to get fucked up i'm like as fun as that is every once in a while it is nice to just be like let's just see what's inside your head yeah and actually another thing too is there's not many people can really drink anymore no so a lot of these people that i feel in my opinion need to be moving rocking around drinking some water sweating it out as they drink otherwise they're fucked like i realized this like now i'm drinking with my buddies a few of them it's actually a really good point yeah a few of them can hang out and just you know you don't have to drink 15 beers or like go crazy but just have eight beers without being a menace yeah like that should be a good thing when i go visit my cousins our favorite part isn't going like to the night

clubs and like crazy eastern european bullshit yeah it's sitting outside on the patio we might have some gypsies because my cousin musician we get gypsies to come over and play for us a little bit but we're just sitting there pounding bottles of wine and that's it for eight hours that is yeah those are my favorite nights it is or um in college we would do a. So when we were done with whatever and it was just like, it's like us four and like maybe three other people that we befriended at the bar. We just go back, play our music, and drink until we're like, we should go to bed, I see the sun. Ah, the sun's a good sign.

It means you're just beginning though. You actually have to really drink in those situations. I saw the sun after like a shift at the bar in college was

insane we'd go back and we'd smoke and drink and we're like it's time for bed we work in eight hours

again we're gonna do this again tomorrow like this it's the most fucked up schedule we had

but I loved it like I wouldn't trade that for the world. Would I do that all the time now? Probably not, but not four days a week. But every once in a while, those are the absolute best. Yeah, that's why you need at least a week-long bender once every few months. Yeah, you need balance in terms of just going out.

It doesn't always need to be the conversations like this, but it also doesn't always need to be. Head banging, yeah. People fucking in the corner. It doesn't need to be that. Oh, PDA is the worst. That might be my least favorite thing. That's another thing with those fucking EDM festivals, too. Everybody's trying to have sex in the fucking building.

That's because they're all fucking molly. And they're like, everything that they touch is gold. Just calm down a little bit wait a half hour it's more comfortable way more comfortable than rubbing up against me yeah literally another person just standing behind you

it's have you ever done any of that I don't know maybe it's a good way to put it i always forget you guys have real like jobs yeah um i should i should i should always lead with this every episode but like this is going on the internet i know i'm away i'm away well no i've had to uh remind people i've had a few people who are like hey can you just not post that i go

oh you mean the hour that we just spent like half hour setting up hour talking the nine hours i did of editing and so and upload time yeah working on your actual content yeah you're telling me i just can't upload anymore i'm like oh all right like hey can you edit this part out i don't think people realize when like can you edit this part out after it's been uploaded is yes yes, editing it out is like that. But you know what I'm saying? Uploading a hour long YouTube video takes, and you don't have like a large company's internet connection, takes several hours.

And that also is several hours where people aren't watching it. Yeah. That's another thing you got to work the algorithm. It's like with my job with Google, if you put something in and you take it out, Google's going to be like, what the fuck? Google's with YouTube. You've got to be able to optimize your videos,

make sure they have a good standing. Yeah, you might need to help me with that. We might work on some stuff. We'll see. Just don't call me Saturday nights, take my site down, put my old one back up, put the new one back up three days later, and then the font's different, so take it site down, put my old one back up, put the new one back up three days later, and then the fonts difference will take it back down today, please.

Those are the clients I love because then you just try to make money off of them out of spite. So you got to actually succeed for them to take more of their money. I don't like scamming people, but if I don't like you as a client, it's kind of going to make me work even harder for you because I want to take your money. Oh, I believe that. Yeah. 100%.

So there's a few clients where I just fucking hate them, but I work my ass off for them just because I want them to succeed so that we succeed more as well. That's always the bonus. That's great, yeah. It's the best way to look at a crazy client is like, okay, I'm going to make you money

so you give me more money. Exactly. Because if you're going to put in, if they're going to be like, take it down, put it up, take it down, put it up, then they're going to be like, well, we can kind of do whatever we want with them. But in the back of your head, you're like, every time you do that, I'm making more money, so I'm all right with it.

Yeah, I just build all six of those hours. Don't worry. Yeah. Keep asking me to do it, actually. As annoying as you are, I will take it. And I make it clear to them, too. I mean, nobody's not paying for this. Somebody's going to pay for this.

It's not going to be us. So keep that in mind. And they don't care half the time. They're like, I don't care. I want to pay for it. I want this perfect. Yeah. It's like, okay.

Well, I've seen like a tweet or videos where people are like, the difference between a $500 client and a $5,000 client is a $500 client is going to do the take it down, put it up, take it down. Because that $500 means way more to them than a $5,000 client. The $500 client is going to do the, take it down, put it up, take it down.

Cause that $500 means way more to them than that $5,000. So they're like, this is what you give them one rendition. Like fine, fucking set it up. Yep. Or they have the budget where we don't like it. Can you give us another one?

Yeah. You paid for that. We'll do that. No problem. Yeah. So it's true. I mean, money takes money to make money, but also they also realize time is money.

So the more time I don't have this up, I'm probably losing. Yeah, you're losing views. You're losing any indexing that's going on by Google and YouTube that's trying to figure out what new video is going to fill this query. Because YouTube is just like Google. You're searching for something, and then your video, if you want to be ranked in the top, has to be the best answer to that search. So you've got to optimize for that search. So the longer you're missing out on the indexing, or you don't have the right content,

or you have it, and then it switches out, the less likely you are. We're definitely going to be talking after this, like actual prices. I'm trying to learn that, but it's a lot of moving pieces when you're doing like a brand and it's just you which kind of sucks the rules are always changing as well you never know what's gonna do well

as much as I always say I hate TikTok and stuff like that but you gotta play the game sometimes a video go up and I'm like there's no fucking way and then i'm like oh wow and then numbers and then uh there's one i'm like this is like the funniest shit ever and it's like a fraction of what you think well yeah i feel that goes with a lot of the fucking social media viral videos oh yeah stuff that i find funny has the least

amount of views oh yeah it's more because i have a sick sense of humor or drier than most where the stupid shit is funny, but I'm not going to seek it. Exactly. I think I'm the same boat. My humor is a little different than most. Also, I've noticed that the videos that do well, the funny ones, they're accompanied by such like if it's with music, it's boosted. If it's I'm like, yeah yeah but i'm not putting music to i'm not putting eye of the tire to the back of my yeah you don't need that no or who's that guy that's that won the game basically right that mr beast guy oh yeah yeah he has it he has it down

to a science yeah he literally i've watched interviews with him he said we have i've done like 10 years of basic research i know how to make a viral video. I mean, his bad videos are like 30 million views. That's absurd. But like because now you expect it from that guy, you're like 30 million. Oh, this is a bad video. Yeah, and he's still making like what, 5, 6, 7, 8 million off of that? Yeah, it's absurd.

Yeah, well, when you figure out how to create a template that'll work with the fucking indexing rules and the algorithm and the search volume whatever the searchers they kind of tell you what's going on to tell google what's going on too so if your shit's getting watched watched all the way through recommended link to other places that always helps because people yeah yeah so it's never ending too so if you can get stuff that people actually watch for more than 10 seconds fulfills a query like that mr beast guy does because i get stuck in those videos every once in a while we have it's also absurd because he spends the amount of money he does like the idea of like just giving someone a million dollars is going to intrigue everyone.

Because one, it could be me. Two, it would be awesome to do that. It's insane. Pepsi does that for 10 seconds on the Super Bowl. Exactly. It's the same science. He's doing it. What does the Super Bowl commercial cost us here?

I can look it up. I need someone to just look shit up for me. Yeah, you need a Jamie like on Joe Rogan. I really do. Do you like watching like Rogan episodes? I pick and choose. Oh, I'm definitely like, if I see a guest that I'm not a fan. I'm not a diehard.

It's not even if I'm not a fan. It's just not interesting. I'm not going to listen to it just because it's Joe Rogan. I agree. I like, I think he's good at like being a conversationalist. But if there's a guest, I'm like, the description says, this man studied carrots for two years and has a health nutritionist. I'm like, I don't fucking care.

This is for- I'd rather the alien ones or like- Yeah, but Joe Rogan's at a level you want to get where he can pick and choose whoever the fuck he wants to interview. And people are asking him, but at the same time, gets annoying when people um you don't like are like hey man can i do this i'm like i don't know you and like i posted a video with that once and the guy's like chill out man you're not because you're like not rogan like no shit sherlock um but let's be honest like if you are having a bunch of people like i I want to do this. No. I get it.

No. But like, this is for me. Okay. Super Bowl commercial cost. 2022. Yeah. Dude, I keep forgetting what year it is. Yeah.

Jesus Christ. Take a guess. For a 30 second ad? 30 seconds. For NBC. Yeah. It's up from last year i'll tell you that cbs had it last year 7.8 mil 6.5 overshot it mbc is cheap i guess jesus christ cbs last year was 5.6 really and then yeah this year it's what do i say 6.5. That's a million off. It's around.

For 30 seconds. But that's it. Not everyone is doing 30 second ads. Like there's going to be one probably about like an adoption agency that's going to be three minutes long. Yeah, Sarah McLachlan singing to you. Probably. Coke will probably do, or no, I bet you Apple does one where or they're dancing with colors, and that's 45 to a minute.

You know what you're going to see the most of? Ford electric vehicles. Really? You're going to have the most ads about that. That is, with a couple clients I have, a couple clients we're chasing, and just the regular lay of the land, when Ford lets that shit out, if they can do it, it's going to be madness. Oh, I believe that. In terms of advertising and do it, it's going to be madness. Oh, I believe that.

In terms of advertising and the different companies that are going to pop up. There's going to be charging station supply companies, commercial fleets. They're going to be all buying. Like Hertz did with all the Teslas. Commercial fleets are going to be doing that. If Ford can pull it off, that's going to be something to see. It's going to change everything, especially with people driving like the amazon trucks yeah those little vans those could be electric and all this crazy shit most i within 10 years it's going to be electric yeah i'm i have

an okay car right now but i'm trying to buy something old and dirty and fucking crazy for my last year just to run it to the ground than buy an electric i want something interesting at least for a year that's on gas yeah i think i'm always gonna have like i'm by no means am i a car connoisseur but i do appreciate cars like i you asked me how to fix an engine i mean dude you look at my license plate i lost the bolt the other day and it's just hanging so um it could be worse it could be worse but yeah so but i like i i think i will always have a gas car like even if electric cars take over the world it's gonna be those guys now like it's not like jay leno's garage he's got hundreds of hundreds of millions worth of cars yeah and it's just old muscle cars like he got it why not yeah but those can be like

the novelty things you can try one out at a track there's only gas cars worth driving i mean your car no offense is not going to be you're not going to feel a different experience compared to an electric vehicle it might even be better yeah well i'm not yeah i'm not saying it's i just i think it like i get what i was getting at is It is going to be a novelty thing. Some people collect old cameras. We're going back to... What is it? Polaroids. It's that.

It's going to turn into that. It's going to be cool to have one. You're going to bring it to a party. And be like, oh my god, look at me for the night. Look at the gas car. I guess. The gas car might turn into the Polaroid camera. Yeah, I've been looking at ridiculous stuff.

It's all under 12 grand, so it's something crazy. But there's this 1985 Porsche 944S. It's only like 8 grand, but it's a beautiful car. And you can get it for 8 grand, 95,000 miles, and you can have it for a year, run it into the ground, and just go electric. True. I believe there's going to be a lot of people who are going to start inheriting these cars that are almost a generation past us that are not going to appreciate them.

So they are going to be super cheap. They're going to be like, I just want, like imagine giving, if, if you had a brother right now who was like six and you gave him, I don't know, an iPod, like iPod three, like just,

I don't fucking want this. Yeah. It seemed like, but I can, I can run this into the ground. I can, I can still play music. I can do all this. People are going to start looking at those things.

Like I don't care. It's going to be new, new, new technology. Yeah, and all that shit will be off for the cheap then, eh? Our attention span, even for products, is decreasing, I think. It is. I got a new phone a year ago. I feel like I need a new one already. It's too slow.

I actually hate getting new phones. Like, if one, like, I just got a new one too. But the last one, it was my last one for five years. Really? And the one before that was the only time I've ever gotten new. I've never gotten a new phone because it was new. It's either my plan was up and they're like, we'll give it to you for free, basically. And then like, all right, then there's no reason not to do it. Or it's like in half or it doesn't charge oh yeah that's my problem i just

break them like once every other year so i've always got in the new one because of that i'm just a piece of shit about it i think my littlest brother has this year alone let's say that whole year, four phones. Jesus. Just breaks them. He gets drunk and I'm like, do you throw them in the river? Or like he'll come back and it looks like he took a sledgehammer to him.

Dude, you have to throw this at the ground for it to break that bad. The worst was when I got, I ran over my own phone once. That was my worst broken phone. How do you do that? It fell out of my pocket as I got in the car under the front wheel,

and I was reversing to get out, and I just heard a crunch, and I checked my pockets. You're like, I know what it is. Fuck. That's when you're like, I'm not even getting out of the car. Just stay there until I get back. Yeah, and I was like 17, so it was like my first touchscreen phone ever or whatever, and barely allowed to drive ever as well because my parents hate my driving at that age.

I'm like, fuck fuck can you buy me a new phone and it's because i drove the fucking car it's like a double neck i mean that just kills you like we knew it everything led up to this point yeah it got even worse with me in the car i mean this was a good story on graduation day from marquette high we all planned to get you know you know a little drunk enjoy ourselves why not and i started drinking a little drunk, enjoy ourselves. Why not? And I started drinking a little bit ahead of time. And I was in such a hurry to get out that I forgot the garage door was closed. So I backed through the garage door with my car.

Now this was also my birthday. It was graduation day as well this year. So I ran into my parents' room. It's like 7.30. It's the only time I could ever get away with this. It's graduation day and my birthday. Hey, Mama, Tata i uh backed the car through the garage can i take your car yeah sure here 15 minutes into my drive my dad's like what the fuck did you do to your fucking what the fuck it's dented to this day but when they got to the place and they saw me with my diploma i barely walked up the stage and i was like this is a great

day for you to do that honey fucker yeah dude it's one of those things you don't expect someone like say so you're like all they heard was can i borrow your car uh-huh and then when they're like wait what the fuck did he just say on the way to his graduation yeah like like are you drunk already? Yeah. No, my same brother that's gone through four phones has hit this garage door three times. Twice going from the outside, once from the inside. That's unfortunate. It's, I understand once. Like, I've even, like, when you're in a parking spot, I've never gotten to an accident with it. But, like, you just don't go all the way back and you kind of like slowly back out and you start going forward you're

like oh shit and so i get how that could happen or you just don't park it and it goes into the garage three times is a fucking problem that might be on purpose somebody needs a little more attention yeah i'm like andrew i think it is i think we just you park on the street from now on dude there was one you were talking about breaking phones. Joel of Toronto, when he, I remember him, I think he chronically broke his phones when he was younger. And he said that his worst one was, he goes, I made a bowl of ramen and I dropped my phone into the ramen. And he goes, that was the most expensive bowl of ramen in human history. It was a $300 bowl of ramen.

I was like, that sucks. Fucking Joel. I remember him. He always had some dipshit stories like that, though, too. Oh, yeah, he still does. I don't think he's tamed up a little more now, but. He was always the smart kid that did stupid shit. That's a great way to describe him.

That's how I always found him, because I was never super close with him, but we were friends enough. You know, village club. Yeah. Middle school. He's a super smart kid, but we were friends enough, you know, village club. Yeah. Middle school. He's a super smart kid, but always just doing the dumbest shit all the time. I think he's a natural born salesperson too. Yep. Yep.

And he's in sales now and I'm like, it just makes sense. Yeah. He can talk your ear off in the best way. About nothing. Like he, I could do one with him here for like two hours and be like, I don't know if I would talk for more than 20 minutes. And I don't shut up. Uh-huh.

But Joel, you get Joel on a topic he likes. If I was like, Joel, lacrosse, go. And he'd be like, nah. He'd be like, yep, yep, yep, yep. I'm like, I played too, but all right. He's out in Denver. He loves it out there. I can imagine he loves it out there.

It fits him. It does fit him. He says he's in like He loves it out there. I can imagine he loves it out there. It fits him. It does fit him. He says he's in like six lacrosse leagues. I think it might be four. I mean, probably smokes whenever he wants. That'd be nice to have dispensaries up here. I'm getting into it now more. It'd be real nice.

I love walking in there when I go down to Denver or up in Michigan. We'll go up there and we're like, just walk in. I take this that 20 bucks you're out yeah that was uh i had that same experience i was in vancouver i was 19 i was it was a family trip but in 19 in canada you can do whatever the fuck you want and i've tried but failed to use a fake in seattle to get into dispensary it was expired so they're like fuck off yeah but we pull we pull into our hotel uh and it's right across the street from the largest dispensary in british columbia it's called west canada okay and i get out of the taxi and i look at it my eyes just bulge and my mom makes eye contact to me she's like fucker no and i'm like no yeah no no problem so fast forward to that

night we go out for dinner whatever we get back to the hotel room i tell my parents i got a horrible stomach ache i don't want to fuck up our hotel room i'm just gonna go in the lobby i sprinted across the street i thought it was recreational so you could just walk right in security guard stops me no no no no no no you gotta be you gotta have a medical card I sprinted across the street. I thought it was recreational. So you could just walk right in. Security guards asked me, no, no, no, no,

no, no. You gotta be, you gotta have a medical card. I'm like, fuck. He's like, well,

we have our doctor right there. Oh shit. He's like, go talk to him. You're 19. Well, I'm like, yeah,

I'm also a Canadian citizen as well. It doesn't matter. I'm like, okay. Yeah. It's real loose. Yeah laws yeah and then uh the guys asked me questions it's like three questions like you ever smoked before why'd you smoke what do you think you need this for i was like insomnia he's like okay good answer yeah puts it

down then takes me a tour i get like a gram of each thing meanwhile this all took 10 minutes so I run back to the hotel room I actually have to take a shit go back upstairs and then my parents are like wow are you okay I'm like yeah actually I was in there I remember that this kid from Marquette High School he went to British Columbia University he's still here

so I called him I'm gonna go meet him Zach Armstrong was living in Germanyany at the time so i just went for a walk around vancouver and just smoked a joint and completely lost my mind it was horrible it was like crack cocaine the shit that they had there it was ridiculous yeah it was bad and then i come back whatever it's all fine we go back we're driving back from vancouver to seattle we make it through. I didn't bring anything back, but I brought a grinder as a souvenir just for fun.

And we come back. We go to Seattle. We're in the hotel room. And apparently my toothpaste exploded in my toiletry bag or something. And for the first time in his life, my father decides he wants to clean something for me. He's like, I'm going to clean out his bag. my father decides he wants to like clean something for me yeah he's like i'm gonna clean out his bag and he finds a fucking just the grinder with like a little bit of crumbs in there throws me all around the fucking hotel room blah blah blah blah blah blah meanwhile i'm supposed

to move in with mitch cheropata the next week on the east side because we're gonna be roommates together you're a fucking mitch he's a fucking crackhead too isn't he so i thought i literally went to my mom I'm like mom tram whatever money I have in savings I don't even know cuz I was never allowed to touch my money yeah and I was that age just send it to me I'm gonna go find the nearest Serbian Church I guess I live in Seattle whatever we go home and then find a fucking we go by Mitch's house a few days later because we wanted to get our shit ready.

And my dad and Mitch's dad are better friends than me and Mitch are. Oh, really? Like when I would go over for sleepovers to Mitch's house, my dad would sleep over as well. Like through fifth grade all the way through college. Just get wasted. Oh, yeah. Have you ever met Mitch's dad?

No. he's done you a disservice then you need him you need to meet ed ed is one of the craziest people i've ever met and a great man but yeah they get fucking they get crazy uh my dad had a neighbor friend like that and they would we would have like family bonfires and stuff like that and it would get to the point where we're like, all right, you two have to leave because you're pissed drunk, arguing about politics and religion. And just the brother,

like their best of friends, like they would walk into each other's houses unannounced. And both the wives would have, would buy the respective booze that they drank. So there was always like a one seven five of gin and theirs. And there was always like whiskey or something at ours. As though, kind of friends, I'm like, it's just, we know what's going to happen when you two are together.

Yeah, there at their, at my graduation party, I think you were actually there. Because like, there's like 200 random kids just showed up. It was at, because I had that house back down with the basketball court. You might have been there. I don't know if I was there. But anyways, and then it was Serbia played Panama that night too, in Chicago for soccer. with the basketball court you might have been there i don't know if i was there but anyways and then it was serbia played panama that night too in chicago for soccer so everybody after the

soccer game came to my house too and we had a couple pigs roasting and lambs roasting whatever well i would have remembered that i was not there people love to do that though people decided to camp out too on the yard or whatever so there's tents and there's kids smoking pot and all these fucking tents drinking whatever and sleeping in their cars and all this shit my dad and mitch's dad were on my patio drinking probably till like six o'clock in the morning 6 30 comes around i wake up because like i gotta see what kind of shit show this is yeah there's literally 60 cars up and down our driveway tents you can see the light sign you can see the smoke coming out of them i go into one it's a couple of my buddies i'm like what the fuck are you guys still doing it looks like a homeless yeah they're just passing a bowl around whatever

the fuck and all of a sudden i hear just a million fireworks start going off and johnny cash is blaring and these two old guys just cackle it and all these kids are freaking out i had a naked kid crawl out of one of our garages and just start running for his car i don't even know why he was naked it made no sense out of a movie yeah i'm trying to remember who was there that you would know nicolo was fucking asleep i'll figure it out but anyways all 60 of these cars just all gone tents all packed up all within like probably 10 minutes. And then we're just surveying. We're just seeing beer cans in the fucking trees, all sorts of random shit.

Puke on the basketball court, puke on a fucking tree, puke in our basement sink and all this random shit. And my parents are just like, what the fuck, man? I'm like, I didn't invite anybody. They just came. I told three fuck, man? I'm like, I didn't invite anybody. They just came. I told three people, man. News travels quickly. You need to graduate again so I can come to one of these things. When COVID's over, we'll probably have something again.

We always usually have a big bunch of people come over, do a couple of lambs at least once in the summer. Have you guys been, has your family been kind of not strict? Not strict. I mean, my dad's a pharmacist he works at a hospital so we've had to be a little careful in terms of you know exposure yeah just not being assholes it's as simple as that i mean i'm neither here i'm vaccinated i don't really care if you're not i am my problem so couldn't fuck yeah my dad's a pharmacist and has spent more time reading the shit with all the doctors in my family and nurses in my family, and they tell me to do something, I'll do it.

I don't care. It's them. They know more than me. And they're also the kind of doctors and pharmacists that hate the pill companies and hate, like, overprescribing people. And, like, my dad works in a specialty hospital with, like, long-term care patients, either addicts or people who got in horrible accidents. And he sees people get hooked on shit so easily.

Dude, I'm afraid. When I get sick, and this is such a minor case compared to people actually getting hooked on legit drugs. But I'm so afraid to become dependent on something. And I also think one day I'm going to be so sick that i actually like medicine might actually help me um so like if i have a headache and people like here take three tylenol i'm like i'll take one or um if you take like mucinex like take it every 12 hours i will see like unless i desperately need it let's stretch it out to 16. Yeah. I don't like to, or sleeping pills is my big one. I am so afraid to become dependent on, like, a sleeping pill or melatonin that if I don't have it one day, there's no physical way I'm going to fall asleep.

Yeah. And so I'm like, I think I can do this naturally with a lot of things. But, yeah, I'm, like, genuinely afraid to become dependent on some form of drug. Well, it's easy. It happens. Oh, yeah. I mean, you can't avoid any of those injuries long term. It's going to happen.

No, and I'm not saying I'm trying to avoid getting sick or hurt or anything like that. Or even like the Xanax or the melatonin and that shit. Yeah. Yeah, people have kind of an empty prescription pad for anxiety and stress and all that shit but uh i mean i'm an anxious motherfucker i've been shivering my ass off this whole time yeah i've like i'm glad i know my sweatshirt on usually i just wear a t-shirt i'm like dude just put a sweatshirt on uh-huh oh it's like 25 degrees i know actually i'm doing better than i thought right now usually by now i'm like doing like doing this. I've been sitting in a cold ass office all day.

So I'm, I could, I could use a glass of whiskey, but I'll wait till I drive home. Yeah. Um, no, by no means do I put down,

I was like anxiety, depression, but I think we often, and some people won't like this take, but I think we also use those as an excuse to just either be an asshole or not perform at your highest so if you're like oh i'm depressed like no you had a bad day that's that you can't don't use a legitimate like some people are like legitimately depressed and just because you had a bad day doesn't mean you're depressed or um because you're performing at a level that you

don't think you should be like i'm anxious or i'm like let's pump the brakes on this you're performing at a level that you don't think you should be. Like I'm anxious or I'm like, let's pump the brakes on this. You're just being lazy. And then your laziness and lack of effort is what's causing your so-called depression or anxiety. So I don't like people that use it as a crutch or an excuse. Because it does diminish the severity of people who really do have it. Yeah, that's the main point is it diminishes the severity of the who really do have it. Yeah, that's the main point, is it diminishes the severity of the real people who have it.

If everybody can have it, then why is it such a big deal if somebody who really has it, has it? It's like a weird version of the boy who cried wolf. If everyone's depressed, depressed, depressed, eventually we're all just going to be like, someone's really going to be depressed, and you're not going to fucking know it. Or care about it, because everybody else is. Exactly, you're like, we all are.

Go fuck yourself. Exactly, that's a are. Go fuck yourself. Exactly. That's a thing. It's dumb. I've never, I think I've definitely had very bad days or even a bad month, but I can't fathom the idea of people who are chronically like that. Yeah, need Alexa Pro just to wake up in the morning. Exactly. That's a struggle, and I respect anybody going through that struggle,

but there's people who milk it. And you see it, too, in the workplace, especially the kids coming up that are maybe four or five years younger than us. Like the recent college graduates, so maybe even a little more older. But it's ridiculous. The expectations people have. I'm no manager, senior leader senior leader any of this shit but the expectations kids have to get taken care of in the workplace these days is out of control i believe

it you or even um to be at the top right away yeah it's like it's gonna take time like it's it's gonna i think a lot of it's a learning lesson I think a lot of these kids didn't have jobs growing up so they're like oh my god I actually have to work outside of this but I think it's also like once you find something you like this isn't gonna happen right away I'm doing this in the fucking garage

that's where you're supposed to start you're supposed to be shitty if this works out I will look back one day and be like, my favorite episodes were the ones in the garage. Yeah, exactly. That's where you got to be a little more free, too. You don't have to worry about your ad reads or any of that bullshit like that. Exactly.

I don't have a manager breathing down my neck. It's literally just like, I meet my friends out at the bar, and we're like, dude, come on the show. And a week later, you're here. Yeah, exactly, come on the show. And a week later you're here. Yeah, exactly. It's the best. I love that. I know. I don't think I've seen you for a decade at least too. It's been a while. It's been a while. Like, and I've, I've seen you through, I've had this conversation too with so many people. Like, I feel like I have kept out with you just from social media and stuff like that. And my last like images of you were like longer hair big beard

that no lie when i first saw you at the bar i'm like i did a double take like oh shit it's peter yeah i just shaved that day too so i might have made it worse you were real clean looking that yeah well i do this thing where every year i get my head shaved all right and then i grow it out to from shoulder length so you just get one haircut a couple neck shaves here and there but you get 15 different haircuts for the price of one so it works out and my hair grows like a motherfucker too like i just got my hair shave in three months ago really maybe that's pretty long yeah i'm just starting to grow mine back out again i can't do my hair is pretty straight so then when when I grow it out, it just, it doesn't look great.

Like I just had like curls. Like for me, I'm like, it's not as wavy as it should, but I'm like, I'll do it every once in a while. I don't, I used to buzz my head when I was younger. I remember that. I've seen you with buzz cuts. I don't, I don't like them now. Yeah.

I like them in the summer. They're nice and cool. I'll just go shorter on the sides and now I'll just When it gets winter time I'll grow it out This is the first year I haven't done No shave Really?

November Yeah That used to be the big thing for me Because I could do it At like freshman year Yeah Because I've had a stache Since I was in like 6th grade

So it would be cool to do Yeah I'd be the douchebag With a beard At like age 14 My I Haven't Yeah It's the first year I haven't yeah it's first year i'm done in a while something

about it hit me like last week i was like i feel fucking gross i don't know what it was i'm like this this doesn't fit me i've been like i lost weight from when i was doing it like when i had a beard before it was literally to disguise my face being bloated out and it's like now my face is getting like why not just leave it there the stubble's fine you're good yeah that's another thing too i'm fat skinny fat fat skinny fat skinny like throughout you fluctuate oh yeah i'll be at 250 for a month and then i'll be around 220 like three months later then i'll be up to like 235 and then down to 215. I'm probably like 235 right now. Yeah. Getting ready for the 250 winter. Yeah.

I was, I don't know what I was. I know I've lost like 15, 20 pounds since college. But that was bad. Like, you know, it's bad when your parents are like, dude. Oh, yeah. My dad's been calling me fat since I was 19. It's gross. It's, you know what I hate though?

So when I was saying I was grown out, just like disguise your face i hate the guys and i would yell it i had a manager at the bar he would shave his neck up to chin to give himself like a fake jawline i'm like dude it looks worse also you don't have a jawline it's cheating like you do realize i like when you shave when you put your head down for people who don't know this you don't want to see your neck hair but you also want this to still have hair yeah and so the goal is as you grow a beard out you just cut it farther and farther down so it grows out cutting it up to here to get yourself it looks and then you put your head down and then this rolls out like this. Does not look good.

No, no. At all. I struggle too because my hair connects all the way from the top of my head to my toes. If you see, it goes all the way to my chest. You are a hair motherfucker. Oh, I'm a hairy bastard. I've inherited from all sides of the family. We're all mountain people from our region.

I don't have it quite to my i think i got a good like three inches a bit of separation yeah a bit of separation but other than that i'm i'm decently i got down to my toes too yeah hair on the big toe it might be the most disgusting hair i got too many to even think that there's one so i don't really care i also hate feet so i'm like this it's just looking at it. I'm like my own feet. I'm like, dude, it's welcome. Put some socks on. Put some socks on.

Oh, fuck. We have five minutes. Okay. Get you out of here. I have one question I'm going to ask you. All right. I do it at the end of every episode now. Okay.

And I change it per season. And it's like a more serious thing kind of. That works. Just to give you an idea of types of questions. Last season, I asked people, what is something you have to do before your next birthday? It's like something you've always wanted to do but been putting off because like, oh, one day I'll do it. My goal is just to challenge you to fucking do something. This one is, what is something you live by?

So like, have you ever come across a quote or like you watched a podcast and someone said something inspirationally like that hit way harder than it should have and it's kind of like live with you do you have kind of like either a life motto or like a quote or two like this is how people should act how i act how i live my life yeah well as a creative writing major you would think i'd have some sort of quote or novel passage start away in my head is there like a and it doesn't have to be like is there something your family has always said or um i don't know like my here give you an

example uh mine was um i heard it from a clip from my actual Rogan podcast, and it was a guy who said, a man lives two lives, and his second starts when he realizes he has just one. That's a good one. Well, the way I grew up, the way my dad grew up, I mean, my dad and my uncle, they shouldn't be where they are. They were first-generation immigrants. Parents didn't speak any English. My dad had to wear a helmet his first day of school because they thought he was autistic so he was like five feet tall i'm sorry no that's a true story that's fucking awesome so and then my dad's a pharmacist

my uncle's a pretty successful c-suite guy which neither of them should be their cycle pass in their high school people look down on them all the time so just not fucking that up that's kind of what I live by

I like that though to continue the progression yeah yeah cause they put in a lot of work and my grandfather

and my other all my grandparents are Serbian they put in a lot of work to get our families where they are I don't by any means I lot of work to get our families where they are. By any means, I don't have to turn us into a millionaire kingdom family, but just to make us continue on.

It's family progression, basically, is what you're talking about. Yeah, not wasting what they did. That's kind of what I want to live by. Actually, that helps me too because I don't tell people it doesn't need to be a quote. It's just something you saw that I want like, I want to keep it going. You keep the family business of success. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't have to be anything crazy.

Just keep it going forward. Make it better for the next person. Exactly. That's awesome, yeah. I think everyone has a little bit in them that they want to do that they want to one not only give back to their parents but also make the next generation easier or not so much easier but just like guide them in the right direction i agree it's cool i uh i think i think that's how you realize life i think about this, people used to complain, how do I put it?

When you said, people think they should be, coddled, or taken care of, and things, how do I want to put this? It's going to bother me. People used to complain, that like their parents,

didn't give them enough, yet all they want to do is, I'm like, I want to buy my mom a car. It's like, that's how you know, what they did was good enough, because they to repay you you want to repay them and then people need to think about that like if you want to pay your parents at

all one that shows you how good life is so don't complain that life sucks the fact that you're wanting to repay someone for getting to where you even are today yeah shows you that you enjoy being here and I've been told many a time well while my mother intervenes, my father wants nothing from me. You know, take care of him in his old age, yes. But money-wise, gift-wise, he's told me many a time he doesn't want it.

All my parents want nothing. Yeah, they just want you to be okay and they want to make sure, for their own reasons as well, that they did a good job. Showing them that they did a good job, I think, is the best gift you can give them. Absolutely.

No parent wants a gift. No one has a kid and goes, I hope one day he buys me a Ferrari. Oh, I'm sure there's plenty that do. Yeah. There's maybe the D1 athlete chasers or something like that. But I think even a little bit of them,

I just want them to live a good life. Are there perks? perks yeah and some are a little more money hungry but i agree with you i think most parents just want to make sure their kids are okay that doesn't mean you need to be a millionaire exactly that's the main thing you do not have to be a millionaire that doesn't mean don't shoot don't shoot yeah you don't not have to shoot for it but the joys in life do not come strictly from money like i said you can be in serbia making 500 euro a month is it gonna suck yeah the government sucked there yeah but you can still find ways to smile and have a good time regardless of what you got money

helps don't get me wrong money money helps yeah it does but at the end of the day there's people with a lot less who can do a lot more than people with money here trust me on that all right that's perfect we are a minute over an hour let's get you warm whiskey and home thanks for coming on buddy