Fat Chance Podcast - Ep.39 - DJay Mando

Episode Date: December 2, 2021

Met him when he was just my RA freshman year at UW-Madison. Now he's conquered Summerfest and the city of Milwaukee. Truly a one of a kind, talented DJ that I get to call a friend. Instagram.com/DJayMando TikTok: @djaymando Catch him at the Miramar Theatre in Milwaukee December 9th Tickets Available at THEMIRAMARTHEATRE.COM

tripping for real like usually i was looking up the stats they have like 700 to 800 000 people show up in 2019 it looked like maybe 8 000 total dude i've never seen it like that before it was my buddy went one of the first couple days and he's like i got there and i was scratching a line he goes i walked right in i go how was the vaccination thing um because i have friends that are like split down the middle like half of them aren't half of them are and then like this one wasn't he's he goes i could have showed him a picture of a kangaroo that said vaccination over it and it would have been fine dude they don't care they just kind of whatever like whatever but like the fact that they had to announce it like killed all the attendance.

All their, their whole target market is all like anti-vaxxers and stuff like that. And so nobody went. It's the city of Milwaukee. Biker gangs and whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like it was like 830 with like 50 to 100 people in the crowd right before the headliner was about to go. Which most sucks. I know you've done it before

and you're like, and I've seen the videos. I was watching them like before you came. I'm like, dude, this looks unreal. And then I was thinking about it. I'm like, I bet you it was nothing like this this time. It was nothing, bro. I felt like I wasted like all the preparation that we did.

It was just like. Dude, your like promotion is amped up so much from when from the i first met you yeah which i think we should specify you were my ra freshman i know right i couldn't have asked for a better fucking ra i think when people think like all right who's gonna monitor us freshman year it's gonna be some stick in the mud. Of course. Don't do a damn thing. Everybody thinks that, and rightly so. Oh, yeah. I think most of them are, to be honest.

I feel like I was kind of a dominant dozen. Oh, yeah. I mean, you did it two years, too. And I had some of my friends, you had the second year. And they're like, dude, best fucking R I've ever had. It's a easy job, man. All you got to do is just make it make sense. Just make it make sense.

Oh, my. It, like, just common sense goes out the fucking door when you have someone like, all right, you don't do this. You could lose your job. I'm like, I think the big problem is as long as they don't fuck up. As long as no one dies, which. Which. Oh, my God, bro. Oh, you know right away too

Dude is that the craziest thing that's happened? Yeah When you're doing that? By far Your first year doing it? Yep Yep that was By far the craziest thing I had to deal with

And we dealt with it Did we though? Like Hey nobody died I mean Brief story I guess. One kid had, how would you even describe it? Like a panic attack?

I don't know. You moved this just a little closer. You just didn't. So, yeah. I'll just put the mic forward like this. You're fine. You can stay where you are. For my sake.

For sure. But yeah, they made it sound like he was choking on something. And then when he showed up, he was blue. I was blue i was like yeah well they thought he swallowed his necklace yeah something like that and but he had a full-on panic attack to start i mean he locked himself in the room on accident kind of yeah i mean like gee it was scary it was frightening scary in the moment but like after it was all done i I'm like, okay. We're good. We're valid.

Rightfully cracking jokes or just using humor just to be like, what the fuck just happened? We're like, we're not going out tonight. We were experiencing trauma and trying to cope with it with humor. But I remember walking out that door and hearing a bang and looking at his room and going, there's no way that's your room. And we tried getting in. We're like, dude, we had to push a bunk bed from the outside. And we're like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, I have no clue what was going on because, like, I literally just walked up.

I think I was, like, getting food or something. And we're like, hey, call the cops. And we're like, yo, he's choking. He's blue right now. I was like, hey, yo. Whoa, I was uh call the cops they're like yo he's choking he's blue right now i was like hey yo whoa i was just at gordon's yeah i know right that's what i say like sprinted into action he gave him cpr completely untrained oh yeah dude when i i think you looked at me like go let them in because they're not gonna have a key to get in the stairwell it was like perfect timing i opened that door and like action movie type shit i don't know how many paramedics were it was like i wasn't even

there if i was like one second slower to get through the door uh they would have been coming back to get me next for trampling over me yeah yeah either that or they would have just repelled into the windows yeah fuck this shit like a SWAT team they I mean like I was there uh like the the dispatch was like all right push on his chest like two times then breathe and I was like all right bet did that and then paramedics come through he came in like James Bond kicked through me over to the side and just like gave him some type of like I don't even know what it's called but they just put some up to his nose. Smelling salts, probably, yeah.

It just came back to life. I'm like, oh, wee. Dude, I got back up there. There were cops up there that I'm like, did you guys come up with them? I thought it was just the paramedics. Dude, they were deep. It was like five or six of them at least. Oh, it was nuts.

And then, remember this part? It was basically over, and i walk into my room for the first time i go no fucking way right now i look at him like come in my room you're like it reeks of weed and i was like gee i don't care yeah i know you don't care i'm like but i was like this also isn't me like i was like you're with me the whole time you were with me the whole time i don't know where this came from but we can overlook this yeah well i was more like the cops are like two doors down like i'm we're not going from saving a life to putting mine yeah like behind bars dude that was nuts yeah it was uh that was early in the freshman

year too that was not i don't remember quite it was it was definitely cold outside it was first semester probably like november-ish, early December maybe. Fucking crazy. Yeah, man, being an RA was lit. I'm not going to lie. Oh, I bet. I mean, I know some other stuff. Yeah, but like, you know, I feel like being an RA was a huge contributor to my success as a DJ.

Yeah, I would agree with that. You know, that's how I landed my first residency at the club. Started DJing at Liquid, brought through all the freshmen, and I got my first. Then you have fans for four years. Yep, exactly, and they just renew. There's always a new freshman class. They're like, yo, you got to check out.

This is my RA. I did. I'm like, dude, you DJed. We had, like, what, a formal for my fraternity you did that ever like we'll start like dude that was so fucking fun and now it reminds me of when i see when you're doing like the prom performances i'm like that was like those look more insane than what we were doing but holy shit yeah we got like we we definitely leveled up you know i got like a whole team behind me and dancers and all type of stuff and yeah people people don't really appreciate what a good dj can do because people don't really know better no i think a lot of people think you're just playing songs the whole time exactly and and i don't know i feel like people have never really

seen a crazy crazy dj especially one that does hip hop music. Because like there's a lot of electronic DJs and they're fun, but they're fun because they have a whole bunch of production and they have original music and stuff like that. But hip hop DJs have the crowds on enhancements, too, you know? Yeah. And so it's like when you just go to a random bar or a club and the DJ is there, it's nothing too crazy. It's not a performance. It's like the most you see this. If they're playing the same music you're playing, it's just this.

And you're like, oh, I like this song. But you turn it from experience. It's a performance. It's maybe not your song, but everyone's watching you the whole damn time. Exactly. That's what we're trying to emphasize. We're trying to make it a performance so that you can give me and another dj the exact same list of songs and i'm gonna just play it different because it's more involved more i've seen it i believe it it's

fun do you have leveled up a lot like you i see you all over my social media now even like not even because i follow you i just you pop up on like my explorer page and stuff like that that's fire but i was thinking i was like dude i remember carrying like old speakers with like cords coming out the back that we had to like twist in to whatever car not this car that you're driving now um boys from the 80s to wherever you like a house party you're gonna go do yeah and now you're at summerfest which is we were talking before not great this year yeah not great this year but all the other years were fantastic and that's what i'm saying like i got i got summerfest because i was djing liquid and i got my residency at liquid because i was an ra yeah just being an ra led to me being at summerfest

which is crazy to me did it help getting it like was the ra because they could count on you just being in town so who like liquid yeah liquid so like did it reduce expenses for them like liquid was well yeah in a way like they didn't have to pay for an out-of-town dj not diminishing talent at all but like is there other you know when you when you get somebody from out of town you have to usually pay for their hotel transportation they have to fly in all that type of stuff so they prefer having basically local town right local town that and it was my first residency i'm a young dj i don't really know what i'm supposed to be making how much revenue I'm generating for the club because I was selling that bitch out consistently. Yeah.

Dude, lines. I worked at the bar next door. Yep. And before I came through there, they went through a rebrand. They used to be called Segredos. They changed it. And they were having maybe like 50 to 100 people there.

And it was usually, if I'm being honest, I think it was like fraternity socials. Stuff like that. Yeah. Like their big nights would be when they get rented out by it. Yeah, exactly. On a regular club day, on a Saturday or Friday night, they get 50 to 100 people in there. That's not good. Not at all.

Especially with a space like that and you're a club and charging out the ass for drinks. It's a cool club. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The space is fire. The production is fire. Everything about it is dope. And they just weren't packing it out. And so I come through.

I'm just like, yo, let me get one show here. Promise to God, if people don't show up, you never have to hear from me again. And 500 people came through the first time I'm there. I think I went to the first one. Yeah, the whole floor did. The whole dorm did. So fun, so fun.

I think I brought at least 20 people. Yeah, dude, that was so fun. Yeah, man, I was making PA announcements all through the dorms and hanging up flyers in the common rooms. Our floor is the other one that doesn't have like inspirational quotes or like std warnings it's like come see me perform yeah that's what i'm saying i was like yeah we're about to get lit at the club it was so dope and um yeah that's that's how it all started you know it's cool it is cool and dude i'm not gonna lie you were the first person i've had on

here that i was like even though I know you decently well, I was semi nervous just because I've seen you do so. I'm like, I wonder if he's just coming to me like, I'm big time now. I'm like, I know you're not going to do that. I was like, what the fuck do I ask? That's funny. No, it's impressive, dude. It's so cool to see.

I guess I never had a prediction for what you were going to be like. Cause I, I didn't know much about what DJs did. Like I, cause I never seen someone perform like you as a DJ that I thought, um, when you first said you were like, when I met you,

I moved in a week early with, uh, Ian. Yup. So all we did, all I did was watch you destroy Ian and 2k. We're Kyrie. Just Kyrie. You just Kyrie. i will beat you with one guy alone and you

did i have never been more hype for i don't even like video games that much i'm like i've never been more hype for a game of basketball that's not real i put out 96 with kairi ervin dude it was i bet you if i look far enough on my phone or my old computer, I could find the picture. I remember taking a picture. I'm like, there's no fucking way you just did this. That was so funny. And that man, Ian, was like so hyper competitive. He's like, this is bullshit.

Play again. Play again. And I put up like 95. We ain't doing this again. Dude, it was crazy. But I was saying, I've never seen someone perform like that. So in my head, I'm like, all right, DJj i might see him at a fraternity or at the time i didn't do a fraternity as a sophomore or a house party and you're super anti-fred again yeah and it's now one of my favorite

decisions i made just because i learned you can make it what you want it to with a lot of things in life you have this outside perception of something yeah from you're like dude fuck fraternity yeah i'm not trying to do none of that shit and i watch you get into a fraternity i'm like i was like i'm paying for my friends and shit like that but i think a lot of things are like you perceive something based off the loudest 10 percent of someone yeah so like or the worst 10 percent of the fraternity, that's all you hear about is the nasty shit that goes on.

You're like, fuck that shit. And then you actually meet a few good guys. Like, we'd like to just hang out with you. I'm like,

okay. And then feel it out. Like when I did the, the rushing before the pledging, I, the whole time I was like, I'm just going to go

to these events because I'm having fun and some of my friends are there. I had no intention of joining it. And then I was at the one where they ask you to pledge. And I was like, I got to go. It was like my roommates and I,

we're going to go see a movie or something like that. And one guy's like, you're not leaving. I'm like, it's just like, it's steak and cigar night. Why the fuck am I here? And then he just like, as a joke, he goes, you're not leaving. I'm like, it's just like, it's steak and cigar night. Why the fuck am I here? And then he just like, as a joke, he goes, you're not leaving. And then I was the last person they asked just because he could.

And then they took me to the basement like, this is why you can't leave, you dumbass. I was like, okay. But yeah, it was fun. And then I met my favorite, like my best friends from college were from there and like a few other like from work. That's dope. Came full circle. Yeah. It is.

You're a stubborn guy. Like just by nature, you're very stubborn. So it's like you're not going to do anything. Unless I have some control. Yeah. Unless you decide. Yeah. Nobody's going to convince you and be like, bro, just join the frat.

Come on, join the frat. You'd be like, no, I'm not doing it. No, unless you decide. Yeah, that's true. Nobody's going to convince you and be like, bro, just join the frat. Come on, join the frat. You'll be like, no, I'm not doing it. No, I will admit the reason I went to the first event was also on accident. You move in early. When you can finally have your own place sophomore year, and you're like, I can move in early? Yeah. And you're like, so two weeks?

And I ain't got to leave. And I ain't got to leave. Two weeks? I can do whatever the fuck I want. We're just getting drunk we're doing whatever going to parties and i got a too drunk one night and i like kind of realized where i was and i was at a fraternity like rush party and uh one of the kids on our floor who goes kuski i remember stone he goes, dude, I regret not hanging out with you. I'm like, where am I? And it was just coming around.

And then kids from my high school were in it. We're like, yeah. So I'm like, yeah, as long as they were nice. But it was nice to actually realize, I'm like, there are actually some good things I could get out of this. Yeah, you know, it's like, you can't always just listen to the stereotypes. Stereotypes are there for a reason. Yeah. But, you know, it's like, you can't always just listen to the stereotypes. Stereotypes are there for a reason. Yeah.

But, you know, it's like, it's not all true. Yeah, it's like a little, it's like a little barrier you kind of got to break through. Yeah, you know, just break through. Hey, listen, some of that is a little true,

some of it's not. I would say majority of them aren't. Again, it's just the loudest ones, loudest people. I mean, that's how Twitter is, you know. I don't even go, I don't, I have a Twitter. I mean, that's how Twitter is, you know. I don't even go on. I have a Twitter.

I've done a solo episode on here. My Twitter is, I think it's just porn stars. You a damn fool. Oh, my God. No, no, no. I mean, I follow two people, and it's because those two people followed for me. Because, like, you should, like, use Twitter. I'm like, I don't use Twitter.

And so I follow a girl from my high school and her boyfriend. And now I just get recommended. One will pop up while we're talking. I guarantee you. And it'll be like Saturday morning and it's just ass or tits. This man be on the hub for real. Wait. I'm like, what the fuck?

I'm like, what are you two looking at that this is what I'm getting suggested for? And then I look at their tweets. They're all political and shit. I'm like, the fuck I'm like what are you two looking at that this is what I'm getting suggested for and then I look at their tweets they're all like political and shit I'm like this makes no fucking sense

they got a secret OnlyFans yeah actually the girl who was on she goes I sold my feet pics once

I'm like stop admitting things like this is going online we don't need to know anything about you that's funny as hell same girl she got my slogan

for this show tattooed on her ankle. Girls be making bank off of just feet. It's crazy, bro. It's crazy. Like,

I know women right now that are making six figures just selling feet pics, selling their bodies on OnlyFans, just stuff like that. Like, it's crazy.

It's crazy, bro. I think that says more about the people who are paying for that than it does the girls. Like, crazy. It's crazy, bro. I think that says more about the people who are paying for that than it does the girls. I mean, bro, if somebody is going to pay you thousands of dollars for feet, what would it take you to take pictures of your feet?

I don't care about my feet, bro. If you really want to see my feet and pay me $5,000, I will send you my feet. I will gladly. I will paint my toes. I don't give a fuck. I'll get a pedicure right beforehand. 5 G's. That's easy. That's the easiest 5 grand you could make.

That's what I'm saying. You could either do that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No face, no case. Exactly. You got to avoid tattoos. Think about a 9 to 5 and how long it's going to take you to rack up $5,000 up five thousand dollars or you just for most people that's over a month at least yeah you know like it's i mean yeah if you're if you're graduating and you're like in a in a big boy job

like yeah but then there's some people like just cashier down the street or something how long does it take for them to make 5k or you just send a feet pic or someone just like that's what i'm saying like there are like i've heard that girl was like she's gotten some weird requests like that's where i start getting like oh that's like if i i would sell my feet but at the same time there i feel like there'd be a one request where i'm just like where i'm just like yeah nah was like, no, only fans is an abyss. Like there's a, there's a girl I knew who had only fans making two K a day at least. Damn. And she,

she would just tell me about all this stuff that people ask for. Yeah, bro. It's, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's sick. It's disgusting.

It's like, I can imagine like, can you send me this, that, and you can fucking guess what you think it is. dude, I've seen like, I can imagine, like, can you send me this, that, and you can fucking guess what you think it is. But, dude, I've seen, like, I watch other comedians' podcasts, and there's, like, I don't know if you've ever heard of a guy named Tom Segura, but he does, like, some gross.

He's my favorite comedian of all time, but he does some gross shit. And I've seen, he'll show videos of other people, and it's, like, this guy asking a girl's like send me a pair of your underwear but wear them for a week and don't shower i'm like bro no one even needed to see you show us that video yeah that's uh that's tough that's real tough and like it just blows my mind that there's a demand for shit like that you know what i'm saying i don't know after seeing that video i'm surprised by like nothing at this point if you can sell your feet for five grand people imagine what you can sell your ass for hazardously horny bro like

oh my god and how did we get here from talking about you starting your dj career who knows right that's that's how conversations go dude speaking of hazardously horny i can imagine you got a few people in the crowd that are a little nuts for sure no there was a you got any like crazy crazy stories just like two weeks ago there was a girl that threw her bra on stage and it had like in sharpie she was like, Hey daddy wrote her number down. Give me a call. I'm waiting for you tonight.

And I was just like, yo, now did you watch her write this or was this premeditated? It was so she, she also made a Tik TOK and tagged me and she spent six hours making this bra. She like custom made it, bedazzled it out with all types of sequins and stuff like that.

And then wrote on it, painted on it, I should say. She painted on it, took it off and threw it on. I feel like I'm sharpening my wear off a little bit dancing in one of your shows. Yeah, it gets hot up in there. And she took her bra off, threw it on stage. One of my guys caught it. And it was a big bra, I'm not going to lie. So this was like a real premeditated thirst trap yep just yeah you got that hanging somewhere i would my manager has it yeah i'm cuffed yeah

i'm good like this is like if i was single be like one get the fuck away from me two my girl was literally like standing backstage when it happened. And she was like. At that point, you got to be like, all right, kudos. The amount of effort you put into that. Yeah, you know. But back the fuck up. That's what I'm saying. And we're going to hang this somewhere for the story.

Dude, yeah, absolutely. Like, if my girl gets mad at me for that, she gets mad at me. Because I didn't do anything. I feel like that's a sign you're doing well. That's what I'm saying. It's like, hey, I'm the breadwinner. Sex sells. Sex sells. You know what I'm saying?

If you're getting people throwing their underwear at you, you're doing something right. Yeah, yeah. I think the first time I got a bra thrown at me was 2016 New Year's Eve, going into 2017. Somebody threw their bra on stage. That was the first time that ever happened to me.

I was like, wow. I feel like you've got to have just like the biggest smile on your face. Yeah, I was like, damn, I'm kind of the man. That's a biggie. You finish that show and you're walking like, you're like two inches taller. You know, just can't tell me shit. What do you think is your favorite performance? Would Summerfest be your favorite one so far or do you have like a favorite type of venue you do i think

it's always a tough question because i always go back and forth i think just for the the sheer amount of people summerfest was dope summerfest 2019 with a boogie that was in my opinion probably the best performance i've ever given in my life up to that point yeah it's also i feel like you're completing a little bit of a dream being from milwaukee yeah 100 and you know like i've done summerfest before first time I did Summerfest was 2017 2018 I didn't get booked for Summerfest and so I decided to move to Milwaukee I was like all right I'm gonna just kill Milwaukee so hard till they book me for 2019 they booked me for 2019 and we went crazy and that was kind of like the transition because up until that point, I just DJed by myself and got the crowd hype by myself.

2019, that was when we did like costuming, lights. We did choreography. Like I had a whole team of people rehearsing and that's when it started moving into like that next level. You know what I'm saying? It looked like from watching your snaps or your Instagram story, it was like, all right, you're by yourself.

I'm like, all right, his friends are like buying. It almost looked like, all right, your friends are buying into you now, which I was like, all right,

this just seems like it's taken a little while. But, and then also I'm like, I think he has a full on fucking production team. Yup. Within a week, it felt like, I was like,

holy shit. Cause now you have even just like, uh, what I call like media, social media posters that you'll put out that look like blown up. They'll be outside of like the club. Yep. Though I'm like, this is impressive. You're doing photo shoots and shit.

I was like, this looks fun as hell. It is, man. Like we got a whole army behind me right now. I'm like captain of the ship and I got a whole bunch of people behind me. And it's so much fun. You need that though. And it makes it more fun. It's fun doing shit like this with other people or like-minded people.

100%. Because like in the school environment, like at Madison, all the people I'm around, like what are you going to do after you graduate? Go off to this job, go off to that job, internships and all that type of stuff. And then they would get to me. And when I started freshman year, I was going to go type of stuff and then they would get to me and when i started freshman year i was going to go through business school and then go to law school that's that's what i was going to do by junior year like i said that's when i became the ra that's when the transition happened i started really taking djing seriously and by senior

year i'm like i'm gonna dj and when I would say that to people, they would just be like. That's kind of how I felt with like, I mean, I'm nowhere near as successful with you in terms of comedy stuff. But when I was in college, it took me until I graduated. I was like, every time someone asks that question, I'm like, I don't want to do anything I'm here for at all. And it was like me moving away to admit I'm like dude you're you're just gonna go talk for a living because you don't shut the fuck up so it's like go do that admit it and then now it's finally like you're saying like oh I'm gonna DJ the first couple people I felt like I don't know if it was for you I'm like I'm uncomfortable saying I do comedy and now it's like yeah I fucking do this yeah you know what I'm saying like it's

it's little transitions but it's it's such a huge difference because then you're like admitting you're buying into yourself yep confidence comes with

experience preparation and once you do it long enough it's just like yeah this is what I do it's second nature too now and this is what I want to do

you know yeah that's huge it's huge I would rather get side eyed because i'm doing something that i'm trying to do and really buying into than getting a high five because i'm doing something i hate you know what i mean yeah the high five feels so ingenuine too so ingenuine like yeah you know what i'm saying like yeah it's just um i wake up every day and can just do what I want to do.

And all the people that I have with me, I know for a fact they want to do this for real, just like I do. And I've juiced myself up so much to the point where now I can throw down the ladder and help people find their success too. And that's what feels the best for me. Because it's like I'm watching people who I've trained and mentored. And they're growing into themselves and killing it. And it only amplifies you guys as a whole. I think that's the only thing I'm still struggling with is finding other people that have similar interests. Because I think once you get a bigger group, you expand like your ideas and possibilities of things you can do.

You can only do so much. You can do a lot by yourself. Yeah. But I mean. So many hours in one day. More people means you have more time to do other things. Exactly. So like the day I don't have to,

when we're done with this, go edit it. Oh my God. You have no idea what that feeling is going to be like when I go, all right, I'm done. Here you go. Sound like someone else could do it.

Cut it up way colder than you ever could in half the time. Way better. Way better. Like I'm at the point where I'm like, I'm just, all right, more, more, more. And I'll be fine. But I'm like, someone's got to do this way better way better like i'm at the point i'm like i'm just all right more more more and i'll

be fine but i'm like someone's got to do this way better than me because i don't know dick about half that stuff hey but it's good though because you know like doing the things that i've done by myself showed me how to delegate right yeah you know what needs to be done outside you know your strengths exactly i know where i need to be better i know what i do well and i know that if somebody doesn't pull through i can just do it myself like if it came down to it i could just do it true it's gonna take a little longer yeah yeah but you know it's it's like this team that i had put together okay so it's like i have two dancers one photographer two videographers uh lighting management and two artists that um make music you're sitting here in my garage talking to me right now.

Yeah, yeah. And then I have like three or four DJs that work under me. So, you know, it's a big group of us. It's probably like 10 to 15 of us total. And you know, it just let, frees up so much time for me when I don't have to do everything by myself,

but that team didn't get put together, you know, overnight. Like there've been pieces that have been moved in and moved out. You know, it's just, it's about chemistry. It's about work ethic.

You got to find the right pieces. Yeah. You know, quality, all that stuff. So does your, does your brother still work with you a lot? Yeah, he was in Ohio for a while.

He went to school out there, but he's moving back now. Actually, like, next week. I remember seeing him on stage with you a few times. I don't know if he was still performing with you or not. It's his birthday today, actually. Is it really? I mean, you're going to see this in, like, two weeks or a week, but, like like happy birthday.

What does it take to just start to finish? If you know you're booking, let's say not Summerfest, because that's like probably one of the biggest one you've done, right? Like a normal one on average, what does it take to start to finish, put a set together and like choreography pictures promo all that stuff yeah so the halloween show for example those costumes are sick salute i appreciate it we have a weekly show that we do at the miramar theater okay milwaukee It used to be once a month, but we turned it to weekly because the owner was really pushing for it. And I didn't want to do that because I'm thinking if I do this every week, it's going to get really hard for me personally to craft a fully choreographed show behind it every week yeah because there's there's other things

and it's different every week yeah so like new theme new everything right and that's not the only show that i do so i wouldn't i literally would not have the time to do that every week but i knew i didn't want to do it every week and and I had DJs that were hungry and ready for it. Yeah. And so I just let them take the weeks in between so I could still DJ once a month, maybe twice a month. And all the other weeks that we had to do shows, I passed it off to them and let them get their headline shows off, sell it out. And now they have that on their resume. That's unreal. it's super dope what does it say on the uh like like you're not performing that week

does it have their name on the front or is it like produced by at least you or something like that yeah but it'll be like dj model presents the theme and then the headliners and take photos. So like start to finish, we start with concept, brainstorming. That usually just comes from conversation. It's funny, like my work day will be like, all right, come on over. Let's just play 2K or play some Xbox or something. We're playing games and then just bouncing ideas back and forth, just talking about it and just be like, yo, it'd be dope if we did this or that so we come up with the concept um random day during the week once we get the concept then we get the costumes once we get the

costumes then we get the photo shoot so my guy bossy he's the team photographer he has a photo studio just go to bossy get everybody up in there take the photos whoever whoever's performing whoever needs to be on the flyer get the photos done give them a day or two gets the flyer or the photos back to us then we take it to our graphic designer graphic designer takes a day or two and then we got the poster once we got the poster then we had passed it off to r Riley who is lighting and management co-management yeah there's two and then he takes them puts them all up around campus we do a social media push all the way leading up to the show so that could be a week and a half to two weeks of push in those two

weeks then so this isn't like a week-to-week thing like you have like you have next month's show basically you're planning it right now i was gonna say that's a lot to get done in a week yeah exactly no i'm like we're running out of days i know right that's what i'm saying so like i have december's show already planned and ready to go basically we have the costumes we just got to do the shoes and all that stuff so um so once we have the whole concept costumes we have the the posters we put it up everybody knows about the show meanwhile while all of that is happening me and my two choreographers we get together and start choreographing the set i'll'll be like, all right, you know, like late at night by myself, I'll go through all my music and be like, all right,

this song, this song, this song, look for some new stuff. And then I'll bring it to them. This is what we're going to do. Play it, take them through like the entire progression from start to finish. And then they figure what they're going to do with the dance moves and how we're going to come out is the most important. The first impression, the intro, always got to make a big deal out of that, big show out of it. And then how we're going to end it. And then everything, we fill everything else from there. And on top of that, you were also the DJ for the Badgers. Yep. Yep. Do basketball, men's and women's basketball and football basketball

every home game yep every home game how many games are there for like a basketball season it's a lot and i'm about to get picked up by the bucks too so do i still have yet to go to a bucks game like i i mean i watched our entire run in mil. You didn't go to the Deer District? I went to the Deer District, but I've been in the stadium. I've been in the stadium once for a comedy show. And then other than that, I'm like, I'm just going to watch. There's no way I'm getting inside tickets like way too much for them. I'm like, I don't even know if we're going to make it that far, though. It was like sold out.

Game seven, where were you? I mean, you got it tattooed on your wrist yep yep i got got the nice little bucks and six tat right there yeah it was crazy man like the fact that we won in the finals in six games is just insane it's so surreal like i still don't believe it Insane dude Like you It's literally a movie story Like the way it works out Bucks and Six Everyone and Six And to literally At home

At home too No superstars Like Giannis and Chris Middleton Were ranked like the worst in 2K In like 2015 I've seen those comparisons Yeah And he puts up 50

That's what I'm saying And they glowed it up to that point to where they bring back the chip. I love that we lost the first two too. It wasn't like, oh, we could, whatever. It's like, if we're going to win, we have to do it. We grinded it out. If we didn't win, the coach was getting fired for sure. Oh, yeah.

Everybody was on his ass. Like when we were playing uh brooklyn and then they're like bruh this coach gotta go it was the most stressful run i'm like can we just like swear to god we gotta like win two lose the next three i'm like what is going on every game it was something i felt like we had no cushion ever it was a battle every single game, dude. It was impressive as hell. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, when you watch like the Warriors, 73-9 or something like that, and then they pick up KD and then they win the championship that season,

it's like, of course. Yeah. You should win. You're supposed to win, you know. And being a Golden State fan at that time it's like yeah

nobody can beat us it's yours to lose and if you lose you're mad exactly but when you're the Bucks and you've never

we're not supposed to win as long as we've been alive we've never been to the finals no I never thought we would of course not I didn't know what it would take because especially like people said once we signed Giannis to the finals no i never thought we would of course not i didn't know what it would take because especially like people said once we signed yannis to the supermax we're like you're going to

get no one here and we're like okay but but it's a yannis but it's yannis but we're all some people were like in the background we have a yannis yeah i was like is he gonna take us to the finals that motherfucker won us the final one is the finals bro he's still got like two or three years at least something like that yeah he's got a few i think he just came with a quote saying his next challenge might not be here i know say that shut shut up but like you know when you're a bucks fan and you're watching game seven against kd and we have two chances to seal the deal with the buzzer beater and not go to overtime and we airball twice and then kd has the ball and you see him do that turnaround step back three point shot and he makes it you're like this is saved by the toe this is this is bucks

basketball bro of course of course so close so close and then we just lose we're just gonna lose like when when they made that shot bro everybody got quiet we're like oh i mean before that i was at i forgot what bar i was at down here and i was like it was nuts i mean the aftermath of that game like me and my two other friends where we ended up is a different story. But I'm like, oh my God. Dude, and yeah. I was at the Deer District for all of them games, bro. It was insane. All the weekend games I was down during the week, I was like, I got to get stuff done.

I was either editing shit like this. I'm like, all right. As long as it's not any elimination game, I was down there or the weekend. Dude, it was just. It made me more of a basketball fan that i even was i was like i didn't give a shit about any other sport or anything any football because i'm i'm more football than basketball but at the time i was like i don't give a fuck what the packers are doing right now i want to watch basketball basketball i was watching other

games i was like i don't do this yeah man and once we beat the nets it's like we're going to the finals we all said the same thing we're like we man. And once we beat the Nets, it's like, we're going to the finals. We all said the same thing. We're going to the finals. There's no way we lose to the Hawks. Way too close. That's what I'm saying. We pull up to Atlanta and get smoked.

I'm like, dude, what is going on? We just beat KD. KD, Kyrie, and James Harden. I'm like, come on, man. We're losing to Trey Young. That's it. And just him. Yeah.

He was working us. Working us. Going nuts, bro. Going absolutely nuts. But yeah, you know, it was a blast being a part of that. And I was DJing with the Bucks during that season. And this season, I told him I didn't want to DJ for him just because I didn't like the way it was set up. Because, like, for the Badgers, I DJ for the whole arena, right?

So if... Dude, where are you set up by the way? Because I was... In the student section. Okay, I think, that's what I thought because I went to the Army game. And I was like, do you guys, I was with my buddy Peyton. I was like, you remember Mondo?

And he goes, yeah. And I go, he's a DJ for all this now. I'm like, do you see him? I'm like, I think that's a DJ booth in the student section. He goes, there's no way they have it in the student section. I'm like, I think that's him. Yep, 100%. I was in that student section.

Deep. People come up to me like, all throughout the game, drunk as hell. Can you play Buttercup? It's like five minutes into the first quarter. I'm like, no, I can't. You have like have like uh oh that's the other thing i wanted to say fireflies yep so cool like that it was never done while i was there and i started seeing phones going like what the hell is going on yeah was that your idea yeah i thought i did some weird guy in the student section start this and then i was like there's no way someone I mean yeah so like the shows we were doing in Milwaukee yeah I know right

we went viral and all yeah I was doing like it wasn't even my video though like nobody tagged me nobody knew it was me like the people recording the video like if they would have tagged me in that it got viewed like over 50 million times yeah it was insane it was insane. It was insane. Well, I'll find it. We'll tag you in it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would appreciate that, you know. But I'm going to promote the shit out of this one. This one will be good.

Yeah. It's a good time for sure. But yeah, you know, like we did the, we did something called the vibe check at our Milwaukee shows where I just play like basically just a bunch of white people music. That's fair. Yeah. And, but it's like the classics,

like you can't help, but enjoy it just because they're classics. Sing alongs kind of shit like that. You know, like fireflies, we are young. Anything by Kesha, Kelly Clarkson,

high school musical, all that type of stuff. You know what I'm saying? Anything by Kesha. Kelly Clarkson. High School Musical. All that type of stuff. You know what I'm saying? All really white people music. Yeah, exactly. It'd be funny as hell, bro. My crowd is super mixed. I got people in the VIP throwing money.

I got people with grills on. I got white girls in college and fratat boys in the crowd we got latinos like literally any type of person you could imagine they're in that crowd it's gotta be a fun crowd all singing yeah you know like people with their girls like get your head in the game by zach efron we are young just just funny as hell man it so much fun. That's what I love about music. Music, yeah. And, you know, I got something for everybody. I can play Latin music. I can play hip-hop. I can play pop music.

I can get in my electronic bag. I can do whatever, and everybody will have a good time. What's your favorite to do? I mean, I'm a hip-hop guy like Just as a hip hop fan Playing hip hop music is the best But I think A music genre that's very underrated Is

70's and 80's disco And 90's and 2000's R&B So like when I can get in that bag It's always fun Your music Knowledge and just like Your library in your head So like when I can get in that bag, it's always your music, always knowledge. And just like your library in your head is got to be huge.

Yep. Like huge. I feel like you ever not think about music. Um, nah, I mean like it's funny cause you know, music is my job, but at the same time, it's just such a big part of my life. Because again, when you're self-employed and an entrepreneur, pretty much every waking moment is spent on your business and on what you do. So yeah, it never stops. And if I'm not thinking about music, I'm thinking about how I can get people into the show where i'm going to be playing the music you know what i'm saying like every aspect of it your life is the business yeah yeah i'm always just sitting down thinking

like that's that's on a day-to-day basis take any free time ever yeah i mean like like i know some people like designated days are like sundays right right like people people have to kind of vacation because they go at a non-stop pace it's necessary for people right but for me on a day-to-day basis it kind of feels like a vacation like i could i could wake up at 7 a.m or i could just wake up at 12 if i want to you ever feel like of feels like a vacation like i could i could wake up at 7 a.m or i could just wake up at 12 if i want to you ever feel like your performance is a vacation yeah i mean there's it'd be both ways sometimes like there's some days where i'm just so tired and i don't even want to

perform yeah but once i actually start performing it's like that energy just fills you up it's contagious it's a blast. And I get reminded why I'm doing this in the first place. And then there's other days where if I'm irritated or mad, I just need to unwind. I just step on that stage and just let it all let it all go. I can imagine that's an aggressive one. I think that's when you jump your highest. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm saying it's that's kind of like when I perform or whatever I do, even five minutes open mic, it's just I can be nervous beforehand. Because all week I'm thinking about how can I make someone else laugh. And then I stress about it a lot. I'm like, this isn't going to be good. And then finally you just say something like, fuck it. Dude, I had so much fun.

Even if it's five minutes, it'll feel like 30 seconds. I'm like, isn't gonna be good and then you finally just say something like fuck it dude i had so much fun even it's five minutes it'll feel like 30 i feel like 30 seconds like that is very relaxing and then right afterwards you have that high and it's like all right that's just even those 10 minutes you're like that was fun like that's good enough like that's worth a week's worth of preparation and now is the time to do it like you know you look at like the progression of kevin hart kevin hart can say whatever the hell he wanted when he was first starting out and now he's he's built himself up to this huge huge platform and if you watch his comedy specials it just doesn't hit the same no as when he first started trying to prove himself in the beginning i think you can tell

with comics when you they get a certain it by no means am i ripping on kevin hart right now but nor is he ever going to watch this, but if you do, what's up? But like when people in anything get complacent, your work goes down. If you're constantly like, it's got to be better,

better, better. That's when the spells go. But I agree. I actually think comedy is going to be, is going to boom here soon. Cause I think people are starting to get sick of how, um,

sensitive everyone is. I agree. Which I kind of like. I don't like how sensitive everyone is i agree which i kind of like i don't like how sensitive everyone is and so i'm not like the cleanest person when i'm up there yeah you know it's it's it's uh it's like a fine line like oh yeah there's there's things that people say where it's like like people be like yo you just can't say that like you just can't say that. Like, you just can't say that. It's like, I get it. And then there's other times where you,

you just say something that's funny or somebody does something and Twitter just takes it and runs with it. And they try and just cancel somebody. I'm like, we're canceling too many people. And I think people realize it's the dumbest stuff. The dumbest things. We're not allowing people to either, either like

grow as humans too it's like everyone i mean every half the people that are canceling people if we also did a deep not half more everybody everyone everyone's got something everybody has done something in their life just being dumb as a kid or being uneducated as an adult it's part of the learning process. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like sometimes you just need people to yell at you to learn. There's nothing wrong with that. Exactly.

There are big fuck-ups, but then there's like some, it's like, dude, also people like take a joke for something. Not everything is serious, especially with comics. Now, I'm trying to figure out what most people get canceled for. It's usually actions. Like, out of the words, some of them don't say. But I'm like, fucking relax. Right, man. And it's like, you know, I watch people dig things up from 10 years ago, and it's like a big scandal.

Depending on what it is. You know, it's a case to case, right? on what it is you know it's a case to case right like I said everything's kind of a case to case you kind of have to take it off

for granted but you know if somebody did something 10 years ago and they're not doing that now it's like what's the issue there are people

I've seen get cancer like say let's say someone this is just an example but you find a tweet of someone that just said literally the word gay. And be like, we'll cancel you because you're homophobic. But they could be like openly against all of it.

And I'm like, no, you did this 10 years ago. You're a terrible human being. That's not how this works. You're a hypocrite. Yeah. You're a hypocrite. How are you saying this 10 years ago and you're doing all this now? Hypocrite.

Empty action. None of it matters. You're trying to compensate. How are you saying this 10 years ago and you're doing all this now? Hypocrite. Empty action. None of it matters. You're trying to compensate. All that, right? The people canceling are hypocrites because you're like, I want everything to be better. We're trying to get rid of these people. You're literally getting rid of someone who got better, is more inclusive. I'm like, do you guys understand what you're doing?

It's very frustrating to see. And it's a privilege to not be a celebrity because second you become a celebrity everybody starts everyone's out for it once you're on the top

it's harder my buddy had a great quote on here he goes it's harder to be at the top than climb 100% instead of

you're climbing you're aiming for one person you're at the top you have aiming for one person you're the top you have everyone aiming for you yep everybody wants your spot dude it's that might lead in perfectly this because we might be hitting an hour here and i don't need you freezing in this garage oh we got 10 minutes i'm chilling i'm actually pretty good right now i'm chilling yesterday it was like 20 degrees in here i had uh we're wisconsin babies man cold so it's not even no this isn't bad at all um so you went to did you go to marquette for high school or i did for the first two and a half years and

i transferred to pies transfer to pies okay do you remember a kid named peter o'club joe okay i he i had him on yesterday and i was telling him he's like how many people do you like interview a week i said usually it's like one sometimes two like this week I had two and I'm like do you know who TJ Mondo is he goes yeah

he went to Marquette with me for a bit and they go I have no idea what happened to him after two and a half years I'm like well I'll ask him for it

he's in my grade no he's mine okay okay so I think probably like a year or two younger than yeah so I think during that

half year you were there I think is when he knew who you were. He's like and he lists. I don't know all of like your friends you're with now, but I think he sees you with and he listed off a bunch of names like I'm not going to remember. I was like, I'll see if he remembers you. But I'm like, I doubt to recognize faces. I'm better with faces. Yeah, I'll pull them up when we're done with this.

But I was like, wow, small world. I'm better with faces. I'll pull them up when we're done with this. I was like, wow, small world. I did not think I would. You would know someone I've had on here. It has been kind of cool seeing people who want to come on here now. When I first started, it's like, what the fuck are you doing?

And now it's like. It's lit. Can I do it? I'm like, it's fun. You came up on my For You page on TikTok. And I was was like no way dude that's not the first video i had that did real well um i had i got a bunch of texts from people that are like why are you on my for you page i'm like clearly i was like i'm michael kuski bro what are you talking about i was like well i mean if you just look at the rest of the

account instead of just sending it to me because you saw my face for two seconds you'd figure out what i'm doing yeah man but it was kind of that was like it's amazing with one video like you said like just getting people freshman year or my freshman year to come to your shows like the difference that made difference a one minute video i had made in terms of like people who follow me and like taking this seriously t TikTok will show everybody. Everything is crazy. I hate it though. I hate it.

I don't, I gotta admit, I don't put too much effort into it. Like all I really do is take raw clips from my show, upload it. And if it does numbers, it does numbers, but I don't,

I don't like sit down and craft no tiktok concepts i'm also not doing any dances or whatever i mean i am way too white to be doing some of the dances that are on there i would look the way y'all dancing is so funny bro like they're aggressive as hell there's there's one guy on there who does like uh like i hate that like when i i was so against it when i started this i'm like i don't want another thing that i might just scroll on and waste time for me i was like i was like look but i was like you gotta play the game so they're up and now i've seen this guy when you're like when you're like the dances he'll just over exaggerate it's so fucking funny there are some very creative people on there

but i think 90 of that app is just creative plagiarism probably i also put no effort into it either like i will take the clips like you'll get all the clips i i'll send to you here and then i'll just crop them so they fit and that's the most effort i have you know what i'm saying like that's all it takes like i don't know like if i if i wanted to i could sit down and come up with concepts and shoot them but being a tiktoker is tough yeah surprisingly enough like if it's not just genuine energy in the moment just being funny or just doing some wild shit like just capturing the moment the right moment at the right time let's talk crafting a tiktok and making something that's funny crafting content is difficult it's

so hard it's in a way people be shooting the transitions and all that stuff and like some of them i'm looking i'm like how the fuck did you do that? Like, I've fucked around on that app. And I'm like, all right, how would I even ask? I'm like, I learned the other day that you could do, like, voice text. And there's people doing, like, it's, like, fading in and out. They're doing this with their hair. I'm like, you got time for that?

Yeah, the high schoolers will just craft their little mini videographers. It's crazy. I mean, it's impressive. However, it's very saturated, too. I'm like, I've seen the amount of time. I was going over your stuff before you got here. For a while, it was just scrolling after I set up. I'm like, the amount of times I've seen the video of people throwing pens into a fucking cup.

I'm like, can we just stop? Yeah stop yeah once something goes viral they just take it and run yeah and that's the other thing is people do just the dumbest things for views i think i think the my least favorite brand of tiktok is relationship pranks yeah i hate that well they're also a lot of them are so staged yeah that's what i'm saying it's just it's just so how many times you try and do this what do you mean you fuck somebody yeah or that or i hate the whole like people be like check my music or watch to the end or like big explosion at the end it's like a five minute video. I'm like, scroll, no explosion. Like this is dumb.

Yeah. Right. Dude. That's the other thing too, is like sometimes I'll post, I'm like, I don't know how someone did not watch this, but then I'll go on it.

I'm like, fuck this shit. Fuck. I'm like someone with a microphone. No way. I don't want to listen to this guy's opinion. Yeah, man.

I think Tik Tok is definitely stunting attention spans you think oh my god i'll be so mad anytime there's a five second youtube ad that i can't skip it's like bro it's the longest five seconds here yeah man like or god forbid it's a 15 second one or how about the like hey add one of two you can't skip the first you got and then it's a five-second one and a second one. What is this bullshit? Yeah, come on, man. It's really stunting. Corporate America, bro.

I hate it. Corporate America. Because then when you think you got a fun story, you're like, I just want you to listen to anything. I promise it gets better after six seconds. But you know like i'll look at some analytics i hate looking at numbers of stuff like i generally like i i can probably say i do this because i enjoy it and not i'm like i'm not looking for

like i mean obviously i want people to watch it but it's not just like i need attention but sometimes i look at analytics i'm'm like, well, this one was watched for an average of four seconds. I'm like a one minute video. I'm like, okay, why am I putting in effort to this? Yeah, the data can get daunting for sure. Yeah, I really hardly look at it. My big platform that I focus on is Instagram.

Yeah. Cause that's like, that's pretty much like my resume. Yeah. So with Instagram, the only analytics I really pay attention to is, you know, likes, shares and follows. So what's getting people following every time, you know. Every time I have milestones I'm trying to hit and I watch as I do shows, it just gets closer and closer

and closer. And then when I'm not doing shows it's down, down, down. Because there's no anticipation for anything. I lost damn near 2,000 followers in the pandemic because I couldn't do any shows.

I couldn't perform. I didn't have anything to post. I was just like... That was probably the closest I felt to just a regular person in recent time to where I'm not DJing. I'm not

doing what I enjoy. I'm just kind of existing yeah and well that's what this came out because i'm like if i can't go anywhere and do anything i can at least bring like people i know and just put something out yeah you know like it's important um but yeah it was just it was it was difficult being in that pandemic boy because there was nothing to do everything i do is live shows and i couldn't do any live shows but it forced me to think innovate and decide what i'm going to do next and prepare for post-pandemic life you know i think this the pandemic for in terms of creators for anything whether it's music comedy videos or something like that anything like that half the people this crippled and demolished completely the other half took it as like okay they either grind time and something good came

out of it and they're prepared like if something like this ever happens again i know they have a blueprint now their blueprint is success instead of people who like pandemics over and they crippled and they're rebuilding it happens again their blueprint is failure again yeah they don't know what to do that's what i'm saying dude like. I watched so many DJs, like club DJs, they make money every day in cash at the club. DJ Sunday to Sunday at the club. Different club in the city. And when you're DJing every day,

you're not really thinking long term. You're thinking what's happening today I'll promote that today and you know go from there and then when today

can't happen right and pandemic the way it hit us happened overnight like it was just one random week in March everything shut down

nothing dude I used to watch videos of comics they were about to perform like there was one like my not buddy my comic I really like, Nate Bargetzi. He got a phone call 30 minutes before he was supposed to go on. They're like, go home.

He's like, I'm in a different state. I'm just going home. He goes, you might perform in three weeks. He's like, what? Crazy, dude. It's nuts. Yeah, I had. I was supposed to perform with Roddy Ricch at the Rave, and that shit got canceled.

That sucks. Who did you open for Summerfest this year? Was it Nelly? Yeah. Did you meet him? Briefly. I walked past him. Yeah.

He's short and buff as hell. I knew he was short. I didn't think he'd be like that. Like me short almost? I don't know. he was short I didn't think he'd be like that Like me short almost Uh I don't know You're also pretty tall Yeah I'm a tall guy I don't know

He's probably like 5'9 5'10 Yeah he's my height Something like that Yeah Alright we'll end it with this Cause we're at an hour Um

Well by the way I'm glad you got out of the pandemic That's great And you're doing so fucking well So Um Before I ask the final question It's like like a semi-serious question.

Do you have anything coming up you want to tell anyone about? December 9th, we have our Christmas show that we're doing at the Miramar Theater in Milwaukee. That's going to be lit. But other than that, we're just focused on New Year's and next summer. Do you know where New Year's is going to be? Is it kind of like a surprise still? Yeah, we're still getting it worked out. It should also be at the Miramar Theater, but we're just figuring some things out first.

But yeah, it's going to be fun. I got to come to one of these soon. Yeah, for sure. I do. I might try for the December 9th one. Say less. I'll put you on a list. It'll be easy. would fucking love that it'd be so fun i've been to one of those in forever oh okay final question um i think you'll be able to answer this pretty easily but uh each season i ask someone like a ending question just to kind

of go from usually we'll like drink or whatever. And I was like just telling stupid stories and bring it back down to earth. But this season it's what is something you live by? So like have you ever watched a video or came across a quote, a book, anything? Or just like a mantra your parents used to tell you that kind of just like leads your life? Something that's in the back of your head. What's always worked for me is focus. And by focusing, I mean like manifesting. You have to know what you want to attain it.

So throughout my whole career, you know, I was like, all right, I want to DJ at least once a week. After I became an RA, that happened. Now I was like, all right, I want to get Summerfest. After killing Liquid every week for a year straight, I got Summerfest. And, you know, then I didn't get Summerfest the next year. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna kill Milwaukee. So I moved from Madison to Milwaukee, killed Milwaukee and then got back on Summerfest. You know, so it's like every stage in my career, I've always known what I wanted, put that thought out there, focused on it every day. When you have that long-term goal, that long-term goal kind of trickles down and focuses on your short-term goals and what you need to accomplish on a day-to-day basis so that a year from now, five years from now, you're where you want to be. So would you say, like for someone trying to figure out focus, would you say pick a long-term goal and then let that determine what the short-term ones are? Or do you pick something short and see where that goes? It depends. Some people know

exactly what they want to do they just don't know how to get there other people don't know what they want to do and so they just have to do things to get there so for someone who doesn't know so if you if you don't know what you want to do or you know you're just trying to figure things out you kind of just have to experiment find what it is that you love that's the most important part because you could just go clock in and not have to think about that stuff and live a perfectly happy life if that's if you just care about making money and then just spending money doing whatever but if you're trying to do something like what you're doing or what i'm doing where it's like nobody tells me what to do. Yeah. I'm the

one who decides what's going to happen. I'm the one making this work. Then you kind of just have to find what you're passionate about. And there's nothing too dumb to not make money. You know what I'm saying? Like there's people, people are selling their feet online guys for 5k. You know what I'm saying? And if you would have told somebody in 95, I'm going to be a full-time video gamer, they're like, you are drunk. Fucking crazy. You're stupid. 16-year-olds make a mil. Yeah, you're going to be 27, 37 in your mom's basement playing video games.

Yeah. If you're saying that to somebody in the 90s. But now, yeah, you got professional video game teams. Yeah. If you're saying that to somebody in the 90s. But now, yeah, you got professional video game teams. Yeah. You got people that are streaming on Twitch for millions of viewers getting hundreds of thousands, if not millions per year off of endorsements and just streamer. Just donations. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like you can play video games for a living. You can sell your feet. You can be a DJ. You can be a comic. You can. can be a dj you can be a comic you can i see i see like welders on tiktok getting clout just because they weld something that looks cool you know i'm saying like we have the internet so you can use it you can do whatever you want as long as you know what you want to do and do it at a

high level and all you got to do to do that is just do it, you know, you just have to put in the time I don't add to that is it's just for me discipline So you find your passion you could have your passion But if you're not disciplined about like working towards that goal ain't gonna happen exactly if it's your passion to be a chef But you cook once a week. It's not gonna happen. Yeah, you're not going to be a chef. That and also showcase your personality. I mean, right now that's the big thing.

The welder he could be the greatest welder in the world but if this man sounds like this no one's going to fucking watch it.

Be you. Have your personality and you know what? Enough people are going to like it. Not everyone's going to like it but who cares? You'll find your target

and you'll reach them. It'll find itself and and that's what i mean man like just know what you want focus on it work towards it every day and it's not gonna be a quick process either like i've been in this since 2016 so five years now yeah and 2016 me would have been so geeked at being on Summerfest for the first time. Because, I mean, that was my dream since I was 16. I'm like, bro. How cool would it be? Like, I can do this. I'm watching this person on stage like I could do this and I can do it better than that person.

I know for a fact. But I did that. And now it's like, all right's next you know so you just have to keep on evolving keep pushing and just work towards it every day and by the time i'm 40 i'm gonna look back and be like damn i did all that like what's next yeah it's crazy look look i, be happy with like the, the process for me, like going up. Cause one day I talked about it with Peter yesterday. It was like,

as much as I want like a different studio or more cameras, better lighting. It's like one day I'm gonna look back and I'm like, some of your favorite memories aren't going to be that like top one. That's going to be like, do you remember when we were just like playing 2k and we came up with the idea for the summer fest show? Like that was so fun. Exactly. Or like like do you remember when we were just like playing 2k and we came up with the idea for the summer fest show like that was so fun exactly or like i remember like we got drunk one night we just talked and all of a sudden a million people watched your story about getting

arrested sam right that's like that's crazy and you know people still come up to me to this day they're like yo you guys performed with a boogie or 21 savage or whoever it was and i'm like bro that show was crazy that show was crazy and it was like bro that show happened like two three years ago and you're still thinking about it like the impact you have exactly like that's that's that's power that's impact there's there's an impact on these people's lives to where they're gonna remember that shit for the rest of their life it's such a cool feeling it's such a cool feeling i had the first first time i was recognized from like the tiktok and stuff like that like i was in minnesota dude you're the comedian with the park i'm like

tiktok guy right dude the first time it happened i was literally like what are you talking about he goes like no you podcast and then he recited the name of the show. I go, fuck, that is me. I'm like, damn. I was like,

I'm actually reaching people. Like, cool. Yeah, man. All right. I'll let you get out of here. We're over an hour.

I appreciate it. It's been a pleasure. Thanks for having me. I think I'm going to, I got to come to this December 9th show. I think we can't be strangers this long anymore. Yeah, I know,

right? I got you, bro. Have you heard of the, the new, there's a spot that opened in Brookokfield it's like actually a can you bro yeah yeah yeah i would uh i would be there this thursday but i'm going up north for hunting this weekend so other than that i should uh i'll let you know next time i'm there and when i'm around milwaukee because sooner or later it's going to be every day I'll just be around

doing open mics. Let's get it. We'll have you come to one. I'm going to be out there heckling you. Alright, sounds good. Just make an example out of me.