F**kface - Summer of 98 Movies Top 10

Episode Date: September 2, 2023

Geoff, Gavin, Andrew, Producer Eric, and Nick get together to talk through the Top 10 movies of the Summer of 98 and we're not leaving until we've settled it. Andrew has compiled the list, everyone chooses 3, and that's where the battle begins. What is your Summer of 98 Top 10 movies? Is Snake Eyes on it? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Visit dragonsdogma.com to buy the game and start your epic quest today. That's D-R-A-G-O-N-S-D-O-G-M-A.com to learn more. Hello and welcome to the Summer of 98 movie ranking. This is slightly different than a draft. I did better than Gavin, didn't I, when he had his thing? Is this a better start, worse start? Are you rating your start in the middle of the start? No, of no i'm just asking you haven't finished the intro yet it would have

been better than mine if you didn't stop yours to compare it to mine and give yourself accolades in them in no i was asking i wasn't i wasn't asked i was asking if it was better or worse i wasn't i would have said yes up until that was an It was an evaluation. Okay, so I shouldn't do that. Anyway, Summer of 98 movies. We have a list of all the films that release wide. Eric thinks that 98 was the last good year, so we're making some supplemental content for it. This is going to be a little bit different than the draft. We're going to determine what the top 10 is

and argue for where these things should be placed. We have to all collectively agree on the rankings and then ultimately deciding what is the definitive movie of summer of 98. If you are just watching that or listening to this, you'll be able to watch this on our YouTube or the Rooster Teeth channel. We'll be having a list streamed from Eric's account

where we go through the films. We have that? Are we recording the video of this now? I don't know. I assume that. Yes, I am. Yes. Okay.

Wow. Yeah, I really should double check that. That was a wild assumption by me. That was a really wild assumption. I appreciate the confidence in it, though. Yeah, I believe. That was pretty good. I never even considered it wasn't.

If you think you're right, you're right. Yeah. Exactly. So we're going to go through. We're each going to select three films that we think should be in the running and then from there we will edit it down to 10 and then once we have 10 we will make our cases for which movie should go where with every rank being important like if you if you strongly believe that a movie should be seventh fight for that fight for that position what if uh what if you like movies that a movie should be seventh, fight for that. Fight for that position.

What if you like movies that aren't on the list? Well, these are all the wide releases of the summer of 98. If you want to add other movies, I guess you could. Yeah, what else do we need to add to this list? I need to see the full list before I could answer that. Okay, Andrew, do you want to read off everything on the list? Sure. Okay, so we're going through to read off everything on the list? Sure. OK, so we're going through. It's long.

It's like 33 films. In June, we have Dr. Doolittle, The Truman Show, Mulan, The X-Files, Six Days, Seven Nights, Perfect Murder, Out of Sight, Can't Hardly Wait and Dirty Work. July is Saving Private Ryan Armageddon. There's Something About Mary, Lethal Weapon 4, The Parent Trap, Ever After a Cinderella Story, Small Soldiers, The Negotiator, Madeline, Mafia, Disturbing Behavior, and Basketball. And then in August, we have Blade, Snake Eyes, Halloween H20, How Stella Got Her Group Back, The Avengers 54, Dance With Me, Dead Man on Campus, Why You Foolful in Love, Air Bud,

Golden Receiver, Wrongfully Accused, and and returned to paradise those are our films are we missing anything jeff well uh yeah it's not a big deal um but i looked up uh buffalo 66 came out in the summer of 98 and i thought that was a phenomenal film when did it when did it come out uh it came out june 26 1998 also hands on a hard body came out yeah 26, 1998. Also, Hands on a Hard Body came out. Yeah. The Last Days of Disco, which was a Whit Stillman film that I really liked,

came out in June 12th. Then Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels. You may have heard of it. That came out 28th of August, 1998. Why is our list missing so many? And then Run, Lola, Run, which was also a pretty big film, came out August 20th, 1998.

I just I'm just throwing those out there because I I was looking at the list earlier and I didn't see them on there. And we don't need to add. I just. Oh, they've been added for. OK. No, no, no. They're added. OK.

Yeah. I went off of box office mojo and looked at what released within those months and then selected the films that released to a wide audience. Because I sort of view the summer of 98 of the things you go to the theater and see. You're looking at blockbusters, and those weren't necessarily blockbusters. I didn't realize Lockstock wasn't big at the time. I thought that was a huge movie.

Well, I think it probably didn't get an initial wide release, but it's become such a part of... It's become such a big post. That's why Run, Lola, Run and Lockstock I wanted to add in specifically because they became huge movies, but they didn't start as huge movies. That is true.

So we're picking three each from these? Yes. So each person will take three films and then we'll move it from the base list to a different list. And then from there we will deliberate on what should be in our top 10. Wow. This is only picking three is tough.

Yeah. There's some layers to it of like, are you going to take, maybe there's a movie you think someone will definitely take. So you don't take that, but you're risking maybe not making the list at all. Who wants to go first as far as picking the first three films? I'll go. Okay.

Am I going like three across all three months or three per month? Just three across all the movies that are available. How should I be listing this also? Should I just write someone's name and then like their movies and then we make a list? You don't even need to put the name. We can just, whatever Jeff picks, we'll just make a separate film list

and then we'll get rid of the base list once we have our selections. Got it. All right, Jeff, whenever you're ready. Can I see the list again? You can. Okay.

Do you want Andrew to read it one more time? No, no, no. I just, I can only see what you're showing me. So, I sent it to you also. Oh, yeah. That's true.

Well, now I gotta navigate away from, hold on. I mean, you don't have to navigate away. No, I'm doing also. Oh, yeah. That's true. Well, now I got to navigate away from... Hold on. I mean, you don't have to navigate away. No, I'm doing it. I'm navigating. No, I don't want to put you out. Okay.

Hold on. I'm loading up another thing. No, I mean, you don't have to. I can show you the list here. Oh, let's see. I mean, the list is here. Three movies Jeff's going to pick. Well, I'm definitely picking Blade because I have a blade

tattoo blade tattoo really yeah on my neck Gus and I got together it was like a friendship Gus have blade tattoos oh that's right I forgot about that you showed me that before yeah it's like the little Renfield thing I have

the Dragon Eddie clan Gus has the Kobayashi clan so I'm definitely picking that clearly picking Dirty Work one of the best movies ever made Yeah, it's like the little Renfield thing. I have the Dragon Eddie clan. Gus has the Kobayashi clan. So I'm definitely picking that. Clearly picking Dirty Work, one of the best movies ever made. And then I'm gonna... I'm gonna zig. I'm gonna zig. And I'm gonna pick A Perfect Murder.

Oh, okay. Wow. Really? Great movie. Wow. What is A Perfect Murder, Jeff? What is it? Right.

What is the movie? It's like a Gwyneth Paltrow movie. It's like a remake of an Alfred Hitchcock movie. It's got, I think, Michael Douglas in it. And Aragorn is in it. I can't think of his name. Strider. Viggo Mortensen.

Yeah, Viggo Mortensen. Yeah, Viggo Mortensen. And it's, yeah, it's just a, it's like a, it's a murder mystery kind of thing that's based off, I think, Dial In for Murder, the Alfred Hitchcock movie. It is, yeah. You know, a weird thing about A Perfect Murder is it's written by two people

and one of the writers only wrote one other movie and it's a Michael Douglas movie. So I wonder if it's like a fake writer name. And if like that's a credit for somebody else. Under an alias. I thought that was so weird. That they've only written two. And they're back to back Douglas movies.

Interesting. You reckon it's Douglas himself? I kind of wondered if to like get a credit. Like some additional money. Should I do mine? Sure. I'll be honest. I feel like some additional money. Should I do mine? Sure. Gavin, would you like to go next? I'll be honest. I feel like if I could, I'd pick all three from July.

But I'm going to pick Truman Show. There's some good shit in July, but obviously I have to go with basketball. And then I'll do Lockstock. Great movies. Andrew, do you want to go next?

Sure. Let me view the list from it. Do you see the thing I sent you, Gavin, about basketball? Yeah. I sent Gavin a clip of Joey Diaz is in basketball. And when he was in it, he was in his deep coke addict phase. And in the movie movie the refs have to wear roller skates and so every day after shooting he would steal a pair of roller skates

and sell them and that was just like his day-to-day go-to money he'd make 150 a day and then by like the time they got to like one of his scenes near the end of the shoot they couldn't find roller skates for him because he had sold all of them and nobody knew that he was stealing them um okay what am i gonna pick this is this is tough so i've seen 99 of these movies i haven't seen some of the additions jeff added um fuck this is this is tough i'm going to add i'm gonna add return to paradise okay i am going to add the x files oh okay and i'm gonna add small soldiers oh okay okay um nick would you like to do yours next i'll go And I'm going to add Small Soldiers. Oh. Ooh. Okay. Okay. Nick, would you like to do yours next?

I'll go last. Sure. Yeah, I feel like a lot of the ones that I was thinking about have been taken, but I will add this one because, one, I saw it when it came out, which is probably too young, but Saving Private Ryan is one of my favorite war movies. And, you know, it eventually led to things like Band of Brothers and The Pacific, which are really good shows shows that hbo put out um and then i was thinking that oh you pick small soldiers already look at that see i'll tell you what i'll add this because it was a horror one

of the first horror movies i saw uh halloween h2o uh also has one of the most interesting death scenes in where someone is killed with an ice skate to the face. And then I'll also add I think a movie that I don't know if a lot of y'all would have seen this, but the Six Days, Seven Nights, just because I liked Harrison Ford a lot.

And that was another Anne Heche film, Seven Nights, just because I liked Harrison Ford a lot. And that was a... That's another Anne Heche film, right? Yeah. Yeah, and she is... She's dead, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, she died. She lived in that movie. Anne Heche died. Okay, so I have my picks last.

I don't know how popular they're going to be, but I will say that Nick has taken one of mine which was saving private ryan um i will pivot and make a different pick because it is not on this list and i think it should be in uh armageddon to not be on this list i think is crazy giant movie in the summer of 98 massive very realistic here are my next two picks that i'm going to fight for my life to get them in the top 10 um can't hardly wait is a movie that i really really like uh that i don't know if anyone andrew andrew i'm sure you've watched it now

jeff have you seen this i fucking hate that movie i knew it i had a feeling that jeff has either not seen this or does not like this movie at all who's in it i was just too old for that is the guy for that movie i get that i just missed the mark on it but exactly what i was gonna say is that for my age when this movie came out for my age, when this movie came out, awesome. Yeah. Your age, when this movie came out, this movie fucking sucks. Why would anyone watch it? 100%.

Lastly, one that I really love that, again, I don't know who else here watched it. Nicolas Cage's Snake Eyes. Are you guys familiar with Snake Eyes? Yes eyes have you seen this movie yes no i think i've seen it let me look it up it is a brian de palma i don't know if he's deep in his like coke habit here or what but i don't know a way to explain what this is other than him slumping so hard in his career that i don't know that he ever pulls out of it i love this movie it's fucking insane it is so insane it looks crazy it sounds crazy the timeline is crazy i love it snake eyes is my final pick for this a thing about snake eyes is really funny is that at the end of the film there's a character that says a line about how they keep having a nightmare about their their

drowning and it doesn't really make sense contextually and the reason why it doesn't make sense is because it's in reference to what the scripted ending was that they completely cut because they either ran out of time or money where there's a massive storm happening throughout the whole film and it never really pays off in any way. There's supposed to be

like a giant tidal wave that hits the casino that they're in so like it makes sense that he maybe would have almost drowned, but it just never happens in the film. However, since they don't shoot films linearly, they had to keep it in because it was just they had already shot that sequence.

So it's a really weird throwaway to a moment that never happens in the film. It's very odd. It's like Data talking about the octopus in Goonies exactly i forgot about that yeah um gavin you ever seen snake eyes no that's a no i'm gonna assume can no one hear me gavin are you here gavin what the fuck happened to gavin oh no can can can no one hear me no no oh i was wondering why you ignored me for the last no one's heard a word you can say dude the last 10 minutes everything i

said no one gave a shit about oh okay i haven't heard a word you've been saying oh i thought it was crazy i just thought maybe you were just like mad about the pics and you don't want to talk do you want to give us a recap of what we missed yeah yeah what have you been saying yeah anything from i would say from when you made your pick of lock stock after that have not heard you say a word so yeah you've been you've been real fucking lazy in the content i was talking about the roller skates clip. When Eric said, can't hardly wait, I was like, oh, who's in that? And then he went, anyway, my next pick is Snake.

What happened? Son of a bitch. Yeah, you cut out as soon as you reacted to me asking if you saw the basketball clip. That's where we left you. Yeah, I was talking about how he was. Oh, never mind. Okay. Interesting.

That was awesome. Hardly Wait is an ensemble cast with Seth Green, Jennifer Love Hewitt uh ethan embry and a bunch of other people that uh were in movies in the 90s and then the year 2000 happened and none of them were in movies anymore okay yeah yeah it's very last hurrah yeah very like teen comedy with like the cast is huge the cast is like so big but um yeah i think it was just it's a movie that i was the right age for when it came out so anyway uh andrew do you want to read our list of selects okay so we have we're down to our 15 now we have blade dirty work a perfect murder truman show basketball lock stock and two smoking barrels return to paradise the x-files small soldiers saving private ryan halloween

h2o six daysights, Armageddon, Can't Hardly Wait, and Snake Eyes. Do we want to look at the remaining list of films that we're about to get rid of? Yeah, I don't care about the remaining list, but we can. The losers? Yeah, let's go back to it.

Let's look at the losers, but is there anything maybe somebody wanted picked that didn't end up getting picked or that they thought would make it that didn't make it? Oh, I 100% thought that you were going to say airbud golden receiver if that helps i absolutely thought you were going to pick that i will say i would like to give some shine to wrongfully accused which is a leslie nielsen naked gun style comedy uh i think it is hilarious it's really high up on my list um and they just don't make movies like that anymore.

It's true. It's impressive. Like the joke, every scene has at least one joke in it. I'd say it's like probably a seven second average. And for me, at least a lot of it landed in wrongfully accused. And I just think Leslie Nielsen is so funny. But I think that that's the beginning of the end. Like Leslie Nielsen, like ushered that era in and also out.

I think it's that was actually after he started Arrow. It may have been a bright spot on an otherwise ending era. Yes. Because it's like Dracula dead and loving it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Nobody saw. Those old movies like that where their JPMs are just off the charts.

We don't make film like that anymore. I think that's why I like basketball. Cause it's definitely that vibe. It's the same people I think is naked gun. Hmm. Uh, I'm surprised by one film that didn't make it I'll say. And that's out of sight just because that was a huge film when it came out.

And it was like, it was like, I just remember everybody losing their shit over it. I saw it. I thought it was okay. I didn't get it, but everybody was in love with George Clooney and J-Lo being in love.

That was the only thing that I know about that movie is that they are in the movie. There's a scene. I remember this one scene because it always got quoted and played, but it was Jennifer Lopez going,

you wanted to tussle? We tussled. I remember like, ugh. It definitely, But it was Jennifer Lopez going, you wanted to tussle? We tussled. It definitely was the only marketing in that movie. Hang on, I just searched for it. And it's just, no, no, we gonna tussle first. Yeah, there you go. That sucks. Yeah, it sucked.

Oh, my God. Gavin, anything on here that you're surprised didn't make it anything left over uh yeah i don't think so i i will say people have a real fondness for there's something about mary i don't necessarily uh it doesn't hold up in my viewing i had watched it for the first time as part of this experience. The only scene that stood out to me as still being really funny is when, and I'm blanking on his name. He's a standup comedian. He has one scene. He plays a hitchhiker.

Harlan Ellison. Yeah. Him. He pitches. There's like a six minute ab scene. I thought that was funny, but outside of that, nothing really helped.

But that, that was like a version. That was like an homage to his old scene in Dumb and Dumber, which was so much funnier, where he's the cop who drinks the piss in the beer bottle, you know? Isn't Lee Evans in that? Mm-hmm. He is, yeah.

He plays an American, which is odd. Although he plays an American playing a Brit, though, doesn't he, for a while? Yes. He starts out as just a Brit, and then it's revealed that his name is like Randy or something, and he's a pizza delivery guy. Lee Evans is a huge stand-up in the UK, and he just had a run in the 90s where he was just in so many movies. It's so weird to see him and stuff.

Like Mouse Hunt and Fifth Element and stuff. Mouse Hunt. Mouse Hunt. Mouse Hunt is a phenomenal movie. I don't give a shit what you say. Right there with you, dude. Right there with you. Mouse Hunt and Rat Race, I'll watch all day long.

You're into just like rodent themed films or what? No, I'm just into that kind of film. That kind of ensemble, funny, silly film. By the way, I said his name was harlan ellison it's harlan williams harlan williams yeah yeah harlan ellison's a much older actor yes he is okay i feel good about the list okay uh so how do we want to sort of approach this? There are many ways this can go. There are films on here that I think,

like I don't want to call anyone out, but there's certain films I don't think are great. Pull me out, do it. You picked Small Soldiers. Go ahead and let us know. No, I know, but I was, you gotta, in reference, I was four in 98 I watched small soldiers as like a five-year-old and uh as a kid it was one of my favorites I'd watch it all the

time I think some great voice work the ending of that movie is fucking insane there is a thing that is is burnt into my brain about that movie where the toys create this gun that fires av cables and i want to say it's like phil hartman it's one of the main characters get shot in the leg like four times with av cables and it like pierces his leg like bullets like it's crazy that movie is an insane finale um i understand why maybe it would get cut but it is is something for me. I mean, if we want to talk about things that might get cut, Snake Eyes, I think is a total... What's wrong with Snake Eyes?

It is such an average film. Like, it is just, like, the definition of, like, totally decent cable movie. Like, it's a movie that when you're channel surfing, you'll watch 30 minutes of if it's on, but, like, you're not...

Nobody's pumped about snake eyes okay i will say that oh gary sinise isn't it oh he's good in it he's really good in it i will say that um i have watched snake eyes mostly on cable it's 30 minute chunks yes so i will i will So I will concede that point. However, I don't think that takes it off the top 10. I think that Snake Eyes is a very serviceable like number eight film. Can I throw one out there that we could get rid of? Sure.

We start the lobbying. This is gonna seem out of left field and actually I'll explain it like this. The movie The X-Files Fight the Future came out on my birthday. this is going to seem out of left field and, uh, actually I'll explain it like this. I, uh, the movie, the X files fight. The future came out on my birthday, June 19th,

1998. I was living in New Jersey. My friends and I were very, very, very excited. The X files, you guys were a little younger, so it may not have, you may not have experienced it in the time.

Like we, like I did, but the X files was kind of a very cultural zeitgeist film it was it had a huge or i'm sorry television show it had a huge following a lot of love a lot of enthusiasm for it and uh we every it was a point it was like prime appointment viewing you would be home to watch uh the new episode of x files so that they could edge you and you'd be disappointed because they would never, they would never address the larger story.

They did this thing where they would have 20 episode seasons or 22 episode seasons. The first two episodes would reference the overall story, the overall plot. The 11th and 12th episode would, like at the mid-season break.

And then the 19th and 20th or the 21st and 22nd episode would and all the other episodes were filler and so you had to go through a whole fucking season to get like maybe four episodes where they were advancing the actual storyline x files fight the future promised to to address that and and fill in the gaps and advance the storyline in a way they couldn't on television and so we were all extremely excited about it. There was a 9 a.m. showing the day it came out, but it was an hour and a half away. So my friends and I all got up at like 6 a.m. and drove an hour and a half deep into New Jersey to go to this special theater

that was showing it at 9 a.m. We were the only people in the theater. We were afraid we wouldn't be able to get in. Apparently, we were the only people that were that excited about it and then that movie did not deliver in any way and it really bummed me out i'm i'm sorry can i can i make the case for the x files like that sucks like i'm sorry you had that experience i'm just they didn't answer the questions they didn't solve they said they were gonna like prove that aliens existed and then they didn't oh they definitely like they did no there's like a scene there's a scene where you think a UFO flies away, but nobody else sees it but Mulder. And then you're like,

so the world doesn't know, right? So you didn't really do anything other than you confirm that aliens existed. He already fucking knew aliens existed since his sister got kidnapped in the first fucking episode that we've been dealing with for like eight fucking years. It was such a limp dick fucking way to handle that.

And then the next season, I'm like, well, I can't wait to see what happens the next season. First episode comes up, fucking Scully goes to Mulder and goes, well, what do you want to do now? You already proved that aliens exist. And it's like, you didn't prove aliens exist to anybody but you, asshole. Nobody else in the world knows aliens exist. Where the fuck is the, like, come on. The rest of the

government's still like, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, creepy Mulder. Aliens don't exist don't exist like it was bullshit it was such a fucking bait and switch anyway so you guys like it that's fine well no this is this is from my perspective i had never seen the x-files like it was something that as i was a kid growing up it was so like cultural it was just part of the culture i never watched it because i was too scared of the intro of the show it would genuinely creep me out i'd like run out of the room if i ever heard it so i went into this never seeing anything related to the x-files i was so like out of the loop i thought the character's names were moldry and sully and i thought he was sully i was like not only were the names wrong

they were applied to the wrong people like i was just completely off and in the movie it's baffling because i assumed like going in i thought that okay the show is done and they've now released this big movie at the end of it and so i'm watching it and they're talking about how like they need to still confirm aliens exist or there's this tone of like that aliens being a thing is not commonly accepted amongst the government and i thought what was this fucking show like i assumed every episode of the show was them dealing with an alien situation like it was baffling to me that that was the thing that had yet to be confirmed which what was even crazier to me was learning that this was not at the end of the series that the movie is like the bridge between season five and season six which is insane when

you think about the context of what tv viewing was in the 90s there is no video on demand like there is no if you miss the episode and you didn't happen to record it there is no way to see it so you're basically asking people to remember what happened in those seasons but as somebody who was an adult in that time frame that's just how the world worked and we all understood it and we played by the rules exactly no like seriously you that's why appointment viewing was appointment viewing everybody had to be home to watch buffy or x-files or whatever when it came on because if you missed it you had to hope you could catch it in suburb reruns yeah and so people put a lot more weight into like

people prioritize tv in a different way back then because it wasn't available like it is now i suggested that uh well i talked to you jeff about chuck closterman who's one of my favorite writers he wrote a book about the 90s. Yeah. Great book. I read that, by the way. Yeah. I'm going through right now.

And that's sort of what they talk about. Like, if you missed a show in the 90s and you didn't record it, you're essentially only option to see it is to go to an archive in New York or Los Angeles and schedule a personal recording or viewing of it. I mean, that's why I started praying for the episode of the mosque to come back on. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And by the way, nobody's doing that. What Chuck is describing there is what journalists do when they need to research or something. Yeah.

Most normal human beings just wait. Yeah, like that. That was just not part of like, if you missed it, who cares was sort of the sentiment at the time. So just to me, the notion that they would be willing to like intersect seasons of a show with a movie under the expectation that you saw all the show post and act like that's just wild but it was a safe assumption sure yeah and it did extremely well which is why i was so that's why i looked into it because it's like wow this is one of the highest grossing movies in the summer

of 98 uh why didn't they do a sequel? And then realizing, oh, they made like 10 more seasons or like five more seasons of a show post it airing. I just think it's such a cultural like for me, it's a weird factor of like, what is a good movie and what is a good summer of 98 movie? Like they're different measurements. So I think my argument for having the x files in the top 10 is it is so 98 it is so the summer of 98 i mean it was an event i drove an hour and a half to go see it so you have to i just i just found the movie to be such a fucking letdown and all my friends did too we were all just like we just felt like we'd been duped and it was so depressing

on my birthday no less i think think I turned 23 that year. Oh, no. That sucks. It was four months. It was three months before I moved back to Austin. Who knows? That movie may have been so bad that it may have colored my opinion of New Jersey.

It may have been part of why I left New Jersey to come back to Texas. If that's true, then we should put it on the list because it gave me a career out of Russia. What about instead of picking apart we we think should be cut are there movies that we feel definitely will be on the list like i feel truman show definitely on the list i think i think truman shows on the list saving private ryan i think is definitely on the list yeah i think i think lockstock has got to be on the list. Really? I feel like Lockstock is a lesser snatch. I feel like Lockstock is fun for what it is.

But it made so many people, though. Yeah, and there wouldn't have been a snatch if it wasn't for Lockstock. Lockstock was a huge deal when it came out. It's a great movie. I just think when compared to his work that follows, not as good. But that hasn't happened yet

because we're in the summer of 98. Those things don't exist. How can you compare it against things that haven't been well i'm evaluating based on my perspective now because i was four in the summer i can't you weren't a big vinnie jones fan when you were four i wasn't no that was later mean machine great i remember being i remember finding it so weird that a footballer was in a film that was just unreal to me at the time wait what do you mean

is Vinny is that was he a footballer yeah he was a premier league footballer what I didn't know that are you serious and then when he was in X-Men I was like what is happening wait what is happening

I had no idea about i didn't know what that's how we got to start my dad used to know him actually he was like a involved in his pre-premier league football club he was jones played professionally as a defensive midfielder from 1984 to 1999 yeah yep that's where i knew him from dude i i know him from snatch and lockstock and mean machine and gone in 60 seconds here's what i'll say i'll say one last thing uh just in my uh i guess promoting lockstock onto the list this is the last thing i'll say about is it ushered in a new era of film like it's a great point. It created gritty, funny, hard-boiled crime movies again. It literally launched that whole genre

that was pretty healthy for about 15 years. What about Reservoir Dogs? I feel like the thing people say about Guy Ritchie is he's just knocking off Quentin Tarantino. That style of movie. I don't see that at all. You don't feel that way? Okay.

The guy I used to work with too also did the slow-mo on Lockstock. There's like a Photosonics film slow-mo shot at the beginning. Like one of the reasons we got put on like Sherlock Holmes and stuff was because he did that. Oh.

That's cool. I think, I think of what we have here, I think we could probably, I think it could be one that we consider to be on the list. I think it's on, if Andrew's not totally sold on it, I think it's we have here, I think we could probably, I think it could be one that we consider to be on the list. I think it's on, if Andrew's not totally sold on it,

I think it's on the bubble, but are there any other ones? Like, I think Armageddon should definitely be on the list. Armageddon should definitely be on the list. Yeah. Right? Okay. Dirty Work?

Yes. I think Dirty Work is on the list. Yes. I think Dirty Work is on the list. I think Blade is on the list. Yes, Blade. I dirty work is on the list i think that's what you made the list yes blade i think blade is on the list as well i also think basketball is on the list i agree oh thank god blade had the best fucking blade had the best action star line ever i've ever seen in a film after after wesley snipes kills uh what is it steven dorf i believe is who the bad guy is after he kills him uh and he kicks his ass or whatever

he goes some motherfuckers always trying to ice skate uphill that is the coolest fucking he improv that dude that is the coolest fucking thing to say yep i think it's like it's just such a cool it's such a cool line in such a cool movie from such a cool character that like it makes it it totally you're able to walk away and go like i remember that one fucking part like that's the coolest shit in the world also it helps it a lot. There was another thing where, uh, Dona Logue is in that movie. And before it came out, he was, he had kind of become famous for an independent film that came out called the Dow of Steve,

where he was like a really, he was like a school teacher. I want to say, um, and it's an independent film and, but he's a really like soft, likable, sweet guy.

And he, everybody kind of fell in love with him as that character. And then Blade starts and he's got a fucking knife in his hand. And he's like, I stuck him. I stuck him with my pig sticker. And you're like, what the fuck? This is a totally different dude. He's wearing like leather and shit. And that was an awesome reveal.

Yep. I think his intro to that movie is him in a blood rave getting a double blowjob and like a shower stall one of the best intros to any movie I would say like I think about the blade intro all the time this is one of those things that'd be hard for us to do but we should do a

best movie intro ever draft because I've got strong opinions okay I'm gonna I'm gonna say that's a cool idea and we should finish this one first yes yeah let's do that yeah you don't want to stop you don't want to put pause on this and then immediately go research and film that uh no i think i'm also i'm gonna leave this video in discord for us to watch later it's just a compilation of vinnie jones fouling people in the premiere that's awesome Can I share my embarrassing

Vinnie Jones fandom? Yeah. When I was like 12 or 13, I'm going to post it in the chat right now. A poster for this movie. I thought this was the coolest action movie of all

time. And looking back on it, it is so embarrassing. It is so cringy. The film is called Blast. It is an Eddie Griffin led action comedy with breckenmeyer as his like co-star and vinnie jones plays the villain in it it is so bad but at the time as a

kid i thought it was the coolest fucking movie when did this come when did blast come out it was like i would say mid-thousands mid-2000s i. I mean, if Breckenmire, isn't it? And it was... Ooh, 2004. It was made by a studio and a company that specifically would make DVD fodder for Blockbuster. Like, that was entirely their business. It is an obscure film that I love that is so cringey now.

Because just knowing how cool I thought it was when it is so bad. It's so cheesy. I think I only ever saw Eddie Griffin in Undercover Brother. Oh, yeah. There's a scene in this movie where Eddie Griffin soccer kicks a grenade.

He does the back jump, soccer kicks a grenade, and then stands up and says, we're playing soccer in the hood now, and then poses. It is so bad. Can we schedule a viewing and watch that? Because I've never heard of it.

I want to watch that so bad. It seems like a perfect, seems like the perfect next movie for us to watch together. Oh, that's great. Gracie, can you make a note for that, please? So that we remember to watch, for some reason, watch Blast. Thank you.

Okay, we have that noted. So right now we have six movies that we know are gonna make it blade dirty work truman show basketball saving private ryan and armageddon are there any others on here that we feel like will definitely make it it sounds like you guys really want lock stock so i'm fine with that well let's hold off what if you like what if we put bubble what if we put bubble in a different color like sure i can yeah i'll do uh i'll do like a blue okay uh i'm i'll make the case for halloween h2o oh because that was another one that was kind of a big deal we hadn't had a halloween movie in a while it was a return of laurie strug and uh

it was uh it was another movie that i have that my friends and i eventized we went we got so excited about it we went and we took pictures with all the ushers at the movie theater and then made a scrapbook out of it later. I will say, I'm fine with it being on the bubble. I don't particularly like it. I don't think it's a good film. I don't think that it's even in terms of Halloween. I don't think that it's one that I would ever go back to.

However, in the summer of 98, the lead up to that, the marketing for that, it was inescapable. The amount of stuff that I saw for fucking Halloween H2O, that that is a, that's like a touchstone,

like a zeitgeist thing for me where it was I just couldn't get away from it so I don't I don't love it I will I think on the bubble is fine but it's definitely a 1998 thing it had such a fucking cast first

off it was I think 20 years since they'd been a Halloween movie right so yeah the return but it had obviously had Jamie Lee Curtis in it. It had Adam Arkin in it. It had Michelle Williams. It had a Janet Lee. Ella Cool J was in it. Janet Lee was in it.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt was in it. It was a pretty wild cast. He died by ice. I think. Ella Cool J is the best part of it. Was that Joseph Gordon-Levitt? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

Wow. Josh Hartnett's in it, too. What? Yeah, Josh Hartnett's. He's like the main guy. He's like her son. Yeah. In the movie. He'snett's in it too what yeah josh josh hartnett's uh he's like the main guy he's like her son yeah in the movie he's like the guy in it the guy from oppenheimer the guy from oppenheimer is halloween hot scientist is in halloween h2o wow the main takeaway i watched that movie maybe like four or five months ago for the first time and what I remember is that LL Cool J wrote romantic novels on the

side and that was just like my favorite part of that whole movie is like his side story with his wife writing romance novels at work that was also at the height of LL Cool J the movie actor which I love that era of his career some great movies Deep Blue Sea Deep Blue Sea is the one that's the one

that's the movie Charlie's Angels Oh, some great movies. Deep Blue Sea. Deep Blue Sea is the one. That's the one. That's the movie. That's the one. Yep. Charlie's Angels. For sure. Okay, any other here that you feel like are bubble movies that you're so-so on? I feel like X-Files is a bubble movie. Yeah.

Because I can go either way on it. I get it, but also it really doesn't. It's okay to add it. It's fine. Yeah. If everybody else is on board. I mean mean it was a big deal to me it was just it's just i'm i'm dealing with the per the personal disappointment of the film um but that shouldn't affect how successful it was in the theater so we're at one two three four five six seven eight nine including our bubble movies here i would be willing to give up

return to paradise uh it's just it's a movie i watched recently it's a movie i'd never heard of and i think the moral hook of that story is really fascinating and i found it to be an intense watch but i don't i don't think anyone else outside of jeff has seen it so i'm not necessarily going to fight for it to be in the top 10 I just wanted to give it some attention as a movie because I thought it was the Joaquin Phoenix one right yeah it's Joaquin Phoenix Vince Vaughn

Anne Heche all I remember is Joaquin Phoenix with long hair so the premise of the movie is it's like Vince Vaughn and Joaquin Phoenix and this other guy are in Malaysia to just like get fucked up essentially and party all summer and so they become friends and they do that and then Vince Vaughn and the other guy leave and Joaquin Phoenix is going to leave a little bit later and then two years pass and they don't keep in touch at all you know it's like you have those

friendships that that work that way and then a lawyer gets in Vince Vaughn's car and tells Vince Vaughn that the day they left the police came because they rented a bike that they didn't return and the guy wanted it back. And they found like over 100 grams of hash in the place they were living at. And that what the Joaquin Phoenix character has been in prison for the past two years and that unless some of them are willing to come back, he will be hung in eight days. And so they have to decide if the two guys that left, if one of them comes back, they will have to serve six years in a Malaysian prison. If they both come back,

it'll be three years each. But if they don't, then he will die. And it's them like experiencing, like the kind of the floor falling out of your life, like having no idea any of this happened, and then having a week to decide what you're going to do in this scenario, and if you're comfortable.

It brings up so many interesting questions, and I think it's so intense at times, like deliberating what the choice will be, and I had never heard of it, so I wanted to give it some attention because I thought it was a really well-made movie. It's a fantastic movie. I feel like Six Days and Seven Nights

and Return to Paradise, you gotta pick one or the other. We can't have both. I think Six Days and Seven Nights is just a bad movie, personally. Yeah, you can go ahead. Return to Paradise is definitely better. Yeah, take it out back.

Take it out back. Put two between its eyes. Wild about Six Days and Seven Nights is Danny Trejo is in it but he he has no dialogue and uh what's the name of that actor he's in training day he's played like every ethnicity he's a great oh i know you're talking about what's his name i think he's a new zealand actor he's been in so many things he's in sunshine he's in Training Day. Is it Cliff Curtis? Cliff Curtis, yeah. He is also in Six Day, Seven Nights

with zero dialogue. It was like before he was famous. They play like pirates that attack the main characters on the island, and they have one scene in the whole movie. So it's just, it's wild when you watch it seeing these actors that are notable later that have like zero presence in that film.

But all right. I think that Can't Hardly Wait is better than Six days seven nights small soldiers return to paradise and uh and a perfect murder i think can't hardly wait should make it we are looking at a nine and can't hardly wait if it's not going to make number eight i think it could solidly make number 10 i'm happy to eliminate a perfect murder i don't know that anybody else has seen it and uh it definitely wasn't like a huge deal when it came out i think a perfect murder is a better version of snake eyes like i think they're both like fun popcorn cable movies i will say the wildest thing about snake eyes is so many scenes take place in the first person

it's crazy yes like it's such an insane creative choice that doesn't uh-huh but i think overall perfect murder is a better movie but do you think that but i think can't hardly wait i'd rather put on the list than snake eyes and i would put can't hardly wait above pretty much everything else that hasn't made the list yet like six days seven nights small soldiers i do think can Hardly Wait was a big deal and definitely was, like, it was probably the biggest teen summer movie that year.

I agree. And, like, it is, it's one of those, like, it's my, to Eric's generation, I guess, it's their breakfast club. And so, um, I think it deserves to be on the list. Okay.

Okay. So, Small Soldiers, not making the list. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a second. Wait list. Okay. So Small Soldiers not making the list. Wait a second. Wait a second. You think Small Soldiers belongs on this list? I think Small Soldiers is better than Halloween H20. I would take...

Wow. I would take Small Soldiers over Halloween H20. I would take Snake Eyes over Halloween H20. I would take A Perfect Murder over halloween h i would take almost all these movies over halloween h2o now we're talking now we're talking see i only i'm just acquiescing on halloween h2o just because it was such a touchstone like in like the zeit i just remember so much of it but i don't like that movie at all i don't i don't know if this should factor into it but a thing with halloween h2o was that like jamie lee curtis only agreed

to make it I want to say this is going off of memory so I might be slightly wrong in this but she would only do it if she got to kill Michael Myers but then the guy that like owned the character forced to change and it caused like this whole drama on set because it they swap out so like the Michael Myers character he doesn't they think they kill him but they don't kill him like he switches outfits with somebody at the end so like their compromise is that the Jamie Lee Curtis character thinks she's killing Michael Myers but they wanted to continue to make those movies so they set it up so he actually survives and moves on so I feel like lessens it quite a bit for me I might just be biased because I am a huge fan of the Halloween franchise

and Emily Curtis in that role and have watched them all a million times. But it was also, I mean, if we're just going off like big summer blockbusters, it was a pretty big one. Oh, for sure. I always like it when the lead actor wants to drastically have a huge effect on this plot line. Like when

Sigourney Weaver was like, yeah, I want to have sex with that alien though. Yeah. Apparently an alien. She wanted to like, uh, die and bang the alien. And James Cameron was like,

uh, here's, here's why we shouldn't do that. And then it just happens in like the next movie. Um, so are we putting small soldiers on the bubble gavin do you have any strong feelings about small soldiers i never saw it but i remember i remember being a kid and seeing the ads for it left and right i'm pretty sure there was some happy meals for it i feel like it Too old for small soldiers in 1998. And I was 12.

Yeah, I was 10. Yeah, it is not a movie that like, I have like no love for it whatsoever. Like none, really, truly. It does nothing for me. I don't find it to be funny. I don't find it to be good. I don't find it to be interesting.

It's ugly to look at. I don't like the way anyone moves. I don't like the way anyone looks. I don't find it to be interesting it's ugly to look at i don't like the way anyone moves i don't like the way anyone looks i don't enjoy the movie whatsoever but i i am not the only one here so i can't make the call but that's one that i would like not put on this list i was 10 so i loved it i feel all phil hartman movies inherently have value but i'm not gonna simp for fucking small soldiers so no it was oh no for me for me like i had the game i had the toys it was also part of at that time period i feel like kids movies that were great with their merchandising like between that and turbo man those those were just like jingle all the way like such great like i have such fondness

of playing with those toys as a kid and thinking it was so cool that this movie i liked i could have the physical toy from the thing did you have a turbo man i hate the way this looks like genuinely despise yeah the way this looks you mean you're talking about the color scheme the color combination oh like like combination? Like, like, look at, look at these, like, I just dropped a picture

in the chat, like our text channel. I hate this. That one on the left looks like the guy from Galaxy Quest. It's just like, this is,

this to me is a movie where people said bro you you saw a toy story what if the toys were like fucking twisted and that's the movie and it sucks i don't like it yeah like i can't that's fair i just have such a fondness from it from my childhood yeah the gorgonites are just misunderstood they are yeah and they're supposed to be like he-man guys like oh god oh okay well i see it yeah can we get rid of six day seven nights from our list i'm fine with that i'm on board with that yeah i'm fine with losing snake eyes if we can lose small soldiers why are you taking me down with you if we can lose if we lose small

soldiers i'm fine with losing snake eyes once uh well let's see how many spaces do we have we have four five six seven i think at this point lockstock makes it it feels like you guys are pretty into it we have 10 with our bubble movies okay i think halloween h2o should be cut personally before snake eyes or small soldiers okay but i'm with that okay but i mean i have but here's the thing here's the thing small soldiers does not belong on this list no it's better than snake eyes it is better than snake eyes listen i'm a nicholas cage fan i'm a huge nicholas cage fan and i think snake eyes is not a very good movie now here's the thing i'm not i'm not a nicholas cage fan at all and i think snake eyes is fucking gonzo and it should make this cut have you ever watched it

in one full sitting without absolutely yes i have okay i have realistically like we're going back and forth between snake eyes and small soldiers like i think we're both gonna accept the fact that that's probably like 10 or 9 oh yeah and if and if that's the case, either one of those are 10 or 9, then I feel like Halloween H20 could be 10. Because if you left Small Soldiers and Snake Eyes off this list, 10 is such a negligible spot that... I have a real soft spot in my heart for Small Soldiers, but I don't think I necessarily feel as strongly about Small Soldiers

as you do about Snake Eyes. So I'm okay with... I'm sorry to hold up on defending the line, Nick, but I am okay if you want to... Small Soldiers is a better film than Snake Eyes. There you go. It's in. Are we too worried that in the

US, Lockstock came out in March 1999? Well, yeah, that's what we brought up originally. Oh. Wow, it made that's what we brought up originally. Wow, it made $3.7 million. That's why Andrew did wide releases of the summer of 98

and then this got added last minute. Well, let's just take it off. All right, let's just take it off then. The release date on Wikipedia, I guess, was the UK release date. Yeah, the 28th of August, 98, it made $18.9 million. Lockstock is out.

So let's just take it off. Wow. Which means I think Can't Hardly Wait makes it in. Yeah, I agree. Oh, shit. And that means 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. We have nine. Was that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8?

Yeah, nine, including Halloween H20. What? And the two that we're fighting for are Small Soldiers and Snake. I'm just sitting back for this. Okay. David Cross and Jay Moore are in Small Soldiers that does nothing get real

who cares it has a video game that was fun there's chips what's the guy that did Gremlins it's one of his works did Snake Eyes have toys? I don't think so no it had Carla Gugino and Gary Sinise. Oh, we got Frank Langella.

We got Frank Langella over here. It had Brian De Palma doing one scene over and over and over again from different perspectives, like his own Rashomon, but none of it came together to really fulfill any kind of obligation or storytelling it was fantastic however nick cage wearing this suit unreal what the fuck why that's awesome that's great yeah it's a pretty good that's a pretty he's really good in it too. It is a great Nick Cage performance. Can we get that suit? What if, and I hate to do this, Nick, because we're linked in Small Soldiers.

What if we got rid of Halloween H20 and then just added Snake Eyes and Small Soldiers? How the fuck is Snake Eyes making it on the list when only one person wants it on the list? That's a good question no no that's a great point it's me and gavin me and gavin both want snake eyes i never said a single word about snake eyes gavin's over here

gavin's over here he wants snake eyes you can tell by watching what he's doing that he wants snake eyes okay let's take a vote let's take a vote who wants small soldiers on the list? I do. I do. I do.

Okay, and now, who wants snake eyes on the list? Me? Gavin? Me, apparently. Gracie? It's tied. Well, it sounds like we're going to be here all night.

This is like picking a pope. Well, it sounds like we're going to be here all night. This is like picking a pope. Well, it's tough because... Hey, Gracie, would you rather see Small Soldiers or Snake Eyes on this list? I feel like I have to go with Snake Eyes because you are my boss. Yes! Okay, so we are gavin and gavin which

one would you rather see on this list small soldiers democracy works yep this now i just won the vote but i do want to say i don't feel like i feel like passion should also be measured in this like it shouldn't always just be a majority decision dictating. But, yeah, I agree. I'm putting Snake Eyes in green because it's money. How about this? How about this, Eric? How about Snake Eyes is our alternate 11th pick if

any of the other 10 can't perform their duties, Snake Eyes gets to fill in. If we find out that Truman Show came out in January of 99. Yeah mean we already got rid of lockstock so you never know that could be scammed off the bench okay it's snake guys hour 10 right now in no particular order this is just what they're listed blade dirty work truman show basketball x-files small soldiers boo saving private r, Saving Private Ryan, Halloween H20, Armageddon, and Can't Hardly Wait.

I think that's a strong list. There's some great movies on that list. Okay, does anyone have any strong feelings about number one? Yeah. Yeah, maybe it would be easier to go 10. Yeah, instead of fighting for one immediately. I think Halloween H20 has to be 10, right?

Small Soldiers in at number 10. No. Well, yeah. In at number 10 or 9. I think X-Files, but if you guys want to make Small Soldiers. I just think the cultural relevance of X-Files makes it higher. I feel like X-Files is way higher on the list. Yeah, it's a better movie I think. If you're talking cultural relevance

then you gotta stop shitting on Halloween because it had just as much cultural relevance in that time. You think it was just as big? That movie, though, or just the franchise? Both. Okay. Or we find small soldiers at 10. That's fine.

I'm okay with it. Yeah, I'm not gonna fight. It's on the list. Like, wherever you want to put it, guys, it's fine. Okay. We fought hard for 10. Great. Okay. Number nine. uh okay um we fought hard for 10 great uh okay number nine anyone feel anything particular there for nine x files i think x files should be top five whoa top five wow i think i think all right like five then uh how about for number nine how about about Can't Hardly Wait? That movie sucks. I do. Okay.

I don't think it sucks, but I do think that it is a solid eight, nine or 10 pick to have Can't Hardly Wait there. I'm not against that. I'm fine with Can't Hardly Wait at nine. Yeah. Here's my problem. I think there's one clear winner and then I really don't give a fuck

between two through 10. What do you think the clear winner is? I think it's pretty obvious. the best movie from the summer of 1998 that's the clear champion is Dirty Work. No. Absolutely. It's in the top three. Yeah, I would put Dirty Work probably number three.

If it's in the top three, it's number one. I think if it's in the top, I don't know about that. I'm going to make an argument, and this is maybe both a positive and, in my opinion, a negative for this movie. I think it kind of weighs it down. I think Saving Private Ryan is an incredible movie, but it's not a 98 movie to me.

I feel like you could release Saving Private Ryan now and it would be one of the best movies of this year. It's not, to me, a real reference of that time period i think you could say the same thing about dirty work yeah i don't i don't know why you think a movie being so good you could release it now would be detrimental to its selection on this because i can sort of see his point that because this is the summer of 98 this is the summer of 98 and like yeah and saving private ryan is like a huge like a tantamount. Like it's huge in the summer of 98. Sure, it released then, but I'm saying like when I think of 90s things, I think of The X-Files.

I don't think of Saving Private Ryan as being important. Then Can't Hardly Wait should be like number two. Yeah, I agree. It's like the movie Go. No, but I'm saying I personally would have it higher. I'm agreeing with you. Like I would have Can't. I'm agreeing with you. Like, I would have Kane Hardly wait probably like six. No offense

to you, but that's just like your opinion, man. A lot of people associate the summer 98 with Saving Private Ryan. Sure. I think Saving Private Ryan for me, Saving Private Ryan's number one on this list. I understand Dirty Work's not going to get number one. It's my number one,

but I assumed Saving Private Ryan would be number one. That's what I thought. I think there's a different movie that is number one, personally. Basketball, huh? You think Blade is number one, Andrew? No, I don't. I don't think Blade. I think Blade's top five. That's what I thought he was thinking.

I think Blade is a top five film. It sounds like we've got about nine movies that we all want to put in the top five. And yeah, it's my opinion. That's all I have. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just stating that was my perspective. Okay.

Do we have one that we think should be eight? What's number... So number 10 is... How about Halloween? Nobody like put Halloween number eight. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah. Yeah.

Put all the stuff that barely made this list into the. Yeah. Get the bath out of the way. Armageddon is seven. Are you serious? Armageddon is like number two. Armageddon is probably three under Truman Show. I think I'm fine with Armageddon at 7.

What? I'm not an Armageddon fan. I don't think it's great. I'm not a huge Armageddon fan, but that movie. Summer of 98 written all over it. It's a massive explosive fire font. That's true. I didn't see it until 10 years later.

Yeah, I saw it much later as well. I think that's a very valid point i just i think i would personally rank it like at seven but yeah and you see where you're coming from you always train drillers to be astronauts and not astronauts to be drillers here's here's my question i have a question are we picking the best movie of 1998 or the movie that was like the best movie, I guess, emblematic of 98? Because I feel like we're going, we have two scales here. I think, yeah, I think that's what makes it tough

is I think both scales, to me at least, have relevance. Yeah, because I think Armageddon's not a very good film and I wouldn't want to watch it again, but it's hard to argue that it wasn't like one of the biggest things in at least America in the summer of 98. Oh, internationally huge as well.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's like, it's like number one, number two material. When was deep impact out? Wasn't that around the same time? A little bit before came out,

like right before it. Same year. Okay. If I'm doing one, two, three, if I'm picking one, two,

three, saving private Ryan Armageddon Truman show, that's my one, two, three. I'm letting you know right now that's how I feel about what we have on this list mine would be dirty work basketball Truman

show wow if Jeff's thinking basketball could be in top three I'm absolutely fighting for basketball to be it's without any already my favorite film yeah mine would be Truman show Dirty Work Blade. My top three.

Oh, Blade's so good. Mine's up there too. Mine would be Saving Private Ryan, Truman Show, Blade. Wow. I will say that I think we all pick Truman Show to be a top three. I think you're right. I think Truman Show is one, personally. Here's the thing.

Here's the thing. If we all say it's top three and it's the only one we agree on it might be number one all right let's put it let's slide it in at number one right now just to get it out of the way so yeah that's a good idea we're working with i i it really gavin it's it's a great it's a great pick and it really is to me it's a number one i feel like it's one of those films where i just want to know more about the universe like i want to know more about the behind the scenes it's like i probably why i like westworld and stuff where it's just like they they don't over explain anything that's happening it's just like you get little glimpses you're like oh i guess people are coming in through the the

elevators oh and i think what you were saying jeff i think it is the perfect balance of both those scales like to me it is a very 90s idea and how it's portrayed and it's also just a fucking great movie like it hits both things for me that's why i would have it at one okay i think x files is number five number six on this list i'm fine with, but it could be anywhere in five, six or seven. Put it at six right there. Okay. I think that's fair. Like you have a real genuine,

like undeserved hatred of it. I think that you just put Halloween. I was a little bit older than y'all. So that's funny. I was, I was 23 in the summer of 98. So I still remember all this pretty well. I would put basketball at a number

four number five personally yeah i think oh i would love to see it at four let's put it at four right now let's do it four that was the first film i watched that had you know the one joke every five seconds sort of thing that was also just a filthy movie and i just loved both aspects of that um i think dirty work is a number five because i really do think two and three are armageddon and saving private ryan i think saving private ryan i'd put it at uh i'd put it at five did you appreciate saving private ryan in the 90s though, Eric? Yeah. Were you old enough?

Yeah. Watching that movie, the scene where he's like, where it's like the knife fight with the Nazi and he's like pushing it into him is like in my fucking brain until the day I die, it's in my brain. That movie was like, it changed shit and is so big. And so it was just such, it was such a film. It was huge, huge. All right.

My problem with that film is that it came out the year I got out of the military and it was probably the most realistic depiction of battle I've ever seen and I cried buckets through the entire film and I have never sat through the movie since. I tried to watch it at Bernie's house a couple years ago and I just started bursting in tears and I couldn't handle it and I had to leave.

That movie affects me in a way. I'll say I don't like it because of how upsetting it is to me. The shots of the ramps coming down off the boats is one of the most disturbing scenes in any film. 100%. And you just think like, holy shit. It's just so crazy.

Everything's a dice roll. And Vin Diesel's in it. Not for long, though. Not for long. So I submitted. He's in it. I ranked every one of these, and then I sent my list to TPG and TPG.

I'd love to include it at the end of this. He did like in a reaction to every one of my picks and he gave this fun this great fun fact about saving Private Ryan. I guess when they were doing like the combat training for it Vin Diesel was notoriously shit at throwing fake grenades. He was awful at it. And I don't know if they had to change things because of it, but just everyone made fun of how bad he was at throwing the grenades.

Terrible. That tracks. It does. So you wouldn't put Saving Private Ryan at number two? I think you guys have made some really great points for it. If it's there, I'm totally fine with that. I think I'd personally have it a bit lower, but I think it's well-deserved.

It's like an amazing... I mean, if Schindler's List was in this list would it be at number one yes yeah yeah yeah all right put it at number two okay um number three it how how is it not armageddon because dirty work exists and basketball exists that's nearly a reason blade exists i feel like obviously i'm again huge 98 movie everywhere all over the advertising but there's no way that holds up as anything worth watching now i watched it in probably june still liked it fun as hell when they go to the strip club and they start telling the strippers that they're astro. It's so fucking funny. There are so many good moments.

It's it's a lot of fun. Even when Steve Buscemi just starts going ape shit. Yeah, it's look when it looks so 90s, the budget is way too high. But that's just what 90s movies were. They were just exorbitant like they were ugly. But like, man, it's really good. It's still a really fun movie. It's also got

the Aerosmith song, though. That is just so 98. I think I'd be okay with Armageddon at three if Dirty Work was four. You're bumping basketball, huh? I can see that too. I think we do have to live with that.

Here's what's going to happen. This is why when it's all said and done we're going to have a good list. I don't think any of us is going to be happy with the list at the end of it. That's how you know you truly compromised. If nobody got their way, then we got a good list

yep yeah i mean i'm looking at this list and i would skip a few and just go straight to basketball if i had to watch any of these movies now like some of these movies are heavy movies that puts blade at seven i don't like blade at seven i don't like blade at seven blade switch blade next files yeah yeah i could yeah i would switch blade next files that's yep i can live with that i i don't want to continue to push it is blade above basketball i don't know it might be it's so 90s and it's so good i just can't skate uphill so great it's so good the little fucking the big sticker the hand gesture he does like that weird fist bump thing in the leather suit it's so good it's so dumb he is

so fucking cool but what about when coop and rima make out under the malakalaka board what about one fucking lem from the shield thinks he's going to a party and is having a great time and then fucking blood pours from the ceiling from all the sprinkler heads and they go crazy and he's terrified it is such a memorable intro oh it's so good blank one is so good head And Lemonhead. That dude was awesome. He was a good actor. He's great. He's great in everything he's in. He was great in that show too, man.

So good in The Shield. Fuck. Yeah. Let's go alphabetical. Baseball, blade. Yeah, that makes sense. I think basketball is above blade. I do too.

And I have a blade tattoo. That says a lot. You know what? I'm going to get a Lazy Boy tattoo. Do Matt Stone and Trey Parker like basketball? I don't think so. I don't think they like each other. They were making it just for shits and giggles

between South Park episodes, episodes right they were like barely awake the whole movie because it's not like they didn't write it or anything right oh they did everything i think they did everything i've read is that they hated all the movies that they made and they hated the process of making films yeah and it almost directed it almost destroyed their relationship i think directed by david, writers. David Zucker, Robert Locash, and Louis Friedman. Oh, wow. It's not written by them. I assume they wrote and directed.

Nope. No, it was the Zuckers. They did Orgasmo and Cannibal Musical. Oh, yeah. It says on IMDb that they agreed to do the movie with the assumption that by the time filming began, South Park would be canceled.

Wow. Budget? Budget, 25 million. Box office, 7 million. There you go. Well, maybe we'll go with box office. What did Blade make? Did it make more than 7 million? Yeah.

Okay, so here's our top 10 list as picked by us. Number 10, Small Soldiers. Number 9, Can't Hardly Wait. Number 8, Halloween H20. Number 7, The X-Files. Number 6, Blade. Number 5, Basketball. Number 4, Dirty Work. Number 3, Arm, Blade. Number five, Basketball. Number four, Dirty Work.

Number three, Armageddon. Number two, Saving Private Ryan. And our number one pick for the summer of 98, Truman Show. I think that's a good list. Yeah, I'm not happy with it. I'm not happy at all. Yeah, so I think that means it's a good list. Yeah.

What would you change? What would I change? You're asking, what would I change? Yeah, what would you both flip? What would make you happier? Saving Private Ryan would be number one. Armageddon would be number two. Truman Show would be number three.

Blade, the rest of it's probably fine. Small Soldiers would not be on the list. Snake Eyes would be on the list. Well, Snake Eyes is first off the bench. It's true. Number 11, Snake Eyes. If Can't Hardly Wait can't fulfill their obligations,

then Snake Eyes is in. That's true. That's true. Gavin, any thoughts? Yeah, I think it's... I can't argue any further with this list yeah i i would i would probably i think one and two could easily swap for anyone but i'm very happy with truman show number one i think it's fair i think it's a fair choice to

have truman show at number one i it's not what i would put there but i think by virtue of us all putting it top three it deserves to be there and making this list if you don't know it's not what I would put there, but I think by virtue of us all putting it top three, it deserves to be there and making this list. If you don't know what's coming when he crashes the boat into the wall, it's such a shocking, such an amazing moment. It also is interesting to watch now. Like I watched it for the first time,

maybe like two or three years ago. And just the living in a world where like vlogging wasn't a thing like the way that they talk about it is so interesting now to like watch it within a modern context of like the the amount of of work they do to essentially create a vlog is fascinating

that is pretty much what it is huh yeah it's like this entire like they could not predict that people would willingly just do this and that's such a good point do it voluntarily yeah like it's so much effort and money for a thing that people would do but then it creates a question of like how influential was the truman show and vlogging as an idea like did that have an impact in the culture going forward i think it must have i think it would so yeah um yeah there's people in the bath watching people live i live there that's my summer yeah their name is andrew yeah all right well this has been uh this has been a

lot longer this took longer than i thought it was uh but none of it i think is bad i think all no very like this is strong yeah i was worried that this would go by too quickly but this was a great This took longer than I thought it was, but none of it, I think, is bad. I think all of it is very, like... This is strong. Yeah, I was worried that this would go by too quickly, but this was a great recording. And thank you guys so much for... Thanks for putting this together, Andrew. Yeah, this is a really great idea, Andrew.

What a year, what a summer. What a great summer this was. The last good year, 1998. Don't tell that to 2013. Yeah, I do think there is an argument for 2013 as being a really good year 1998 don't tell that to 2013 yeah i do i do think there is an argument for 2013 as being that a really good year that's okay so for context of people who are listening to this and i don't think we talked about it in this episode but right before um jess and erica on our sales team have been uh having a debate sort of outside of our summer of 98 stuff where they think that 2013 is the year

that they're very like, oh, that's what I missed and all these things around 2013. Because here's why. I'm floating down the river. I've got a beer in my hand and Get Lucky by Daft Punk is playing out of someone's speaker.

Not bad. Good year. That's pretty good. Well, you know, this is good. Everything's fine. Take me back. Blurred L lines was everywhere. It was inescapable.

Never mind. Absolutely inescapable. Just threw up in my mouth a little bit. 2013 had a couple of songs, had some music and everything. But if you go to the movies of 2013 and then you look at just summer of 98 insane the difference because 2013 doesn't hold a candle to this blood bloodlines went diamond yeah dude massive on what is diamond 10 platinums yep wow it was huge i mean i don't think people understand how big it was massive and then sued sued for the rights.

Anyway, Andrew, you should take us out from this. Do a nice little outro. I will take us out. Before I do the outro, you know how they have those DVDs where it's like four films in one, like those budget DVDs? Imagining our top four as a four-pack is a wild ride. That's a good one, though. Truman Show, Saving Private Ryan, Armageddon, and Dirty Work.

There's a lot of range in that four pack. You're getting a real experience. Well, this has been the Summer of 98 movie list. Thank you so much, you guys, for going through this process with me. We're all unhappy, but I think that makes us happy as a collective, which is great. If you watch this, please let us know what your top ten would be. Would you have snake eyes?

I bet you won't. What? Enjoy the next piece coming up, which will be the music of 98, which I have no idea how that will go. Poorly. Bye.

That was terrible. That was, I really like my intro to it better than Gavin's. Outro, I would say as bad, if not worse. At least the closing part.

I didn't know how to end it. As bad as mine? I think so. It was pretty bad. I didn't think it was worth it. I think it was great up until the end. I really botched the last 5%. Yeah, you teased the last piece of content.

You shouldn't have done that. Yeah, I think you got in your head a little bit. I did. I was nervous. Bye! You're rejected. It's your boy TPG. It's Wednesday, July 19th. Someone's lawn mowing outside.

I got a craving for a quesadilla. And the legend Andrew Panton just sent me the list of the 1998 movies, which we'll be looking at right now. Let's go ahead. We're opening it up. And we're off. All right. Number one in the ranking, I see, is The Truman Show.

Classic. Goated. What else needs to be said? The fact that this movie impacted a generation. Peter Weir, owner, writer, director, obviously. Jim Carrey. You know, Jim Carrey actually has a very strange autobiography, like sci-fi head trip of a book that I would recommend. Definitely check that out. Dirty Work, number two. Massive face energy. Saw this in the theaters. Great call. work number two massive face energy saw this in the theaters great call blade number three best superhero opening ever made introduced me and my whole family to techno iconic one-liners

sick fighting probably david goyer's best writing just a dope movie private ryan dope movie. Fun fact, I saw this screen at the Arrow in Los Angeles on film, and they were talking about the legendary boot camp that people went to. And Adam Goldberg was there, and he told this story how our boy Vin Toretto himself could not throw a grenade. He didn't have the throwing ability in his body and it was very stressful. So sorry to put that out there, Dom. Wrong flick, Hughes. I don't know what that is.

I should watch it. Massive cred gap. Out of sight, Soderbergh. Great flick. I saw this at a sleepover. I didn't really understand what was going on. Can't hardly wait. Love, Hewitt.

Great flick. Haven't seen it since also in a sleepover. Small Soldiers in the eighth spot. Just watched this movie with my entire family. Weak. Not weak, but just like average opening. It's just an insane finale. I don't think I'll ever get the image of the little corn the comp sticks getting shot into some kid's leg by a

psycho commando you know and obviously this movie is just so nuts the end incredible armageddon what else needs to be said outside of the fact that you guys gotta track down the audio of michael bay talking about the spacesuits a lot of people talk about the Ben Affleck making fun of the movie and the astronauts. That's cool. And I have my own thoughts on Affleck. But the Bay talking about spacesuits is iconic. Basketball, first glimpse, I think, of Trey and Matt's brilliance. And then we're moving into a couple other ones.

X-Files movie. my parents took me to see this it was awesome really kind of blew my mind shout out to like the black goo or the black tar which also would come back again in prometheus so i think they're canon mulan never saw this one why do fools fall in love never saw that one ever after I think I didn't go on a date to see that. Madeline, I'll read the books. Parent Trap, saw this one recently. Pretty fun. That really creates like a weird wish fulfillment, I would say, of young girls hoping that they have another set of parents and a long lost sister who is extremely rich dude a negotiator samuel l heater movie dude like this one a lot i think this was f gary gray who has put together a really interesting

career for himself for sure snake eyes dopama i didn't understand the artistic clout that was in this movie but i did enjoy like it as kind of a weird spiritual sequel that teaches all the fans of the nick kate trinity the rock bad boys and con air about art perfect murder don't remember this one air bud 2 i'm not a big dog guy something about mary low-key overrated halloween h20 never saw it wasn't into scary movies then lethal Lethal Weapon 4. Introduced the entire country to Jet Li. Dope movie. Dr. Dolittle. No thanks.

54. I think this is a gourmet movie about a disco. Not for me. Six Days, Seven Nights. Shout out to Anne Heche. Shout out to Harrison Ford, of course. Dance With Me. Don't know what that is. Disturbing Behavior.

This has been on my list for a minute. Mafia. Love Jay Moore. You know, loved him in Air. Dead Man on Campus. Heard of it, never saw it. Hellstella got her groove back. Never seen it.

Avengers. Saw this in the theaters. Very confusing. And I would say, like, we're missing the faculty, which is crazy. Yeah.