Fladseth - #191 - Line Andersen

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It was Kurt Nilsen's immortal classics! She's so high! We have been so lucky that Line Andersen made it into the studio. Not full with Edru, I just felt like I made it in like Bjørn Eidsvåg. I would have loved it if you were a dickhead. Yes, you would have. I would have been so happy. I would have been a fool. According to the media, you could have seen me, Edru.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Inside the house. We will start playing right away. We will start with exactly what you want. No, we can start with... You are host Line Anderson, as you said on Instagram. Yes, and that happened because I couldn't call you NRK Line anymore. So it was difficult to find. I have the most common name in the world. Because you are called NRK Line? Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:44 So you quit NRK. And then you had to have something... You can't just be Line Andersen. Yes, but try to find a name that you can use as just Line Andersen. There are 12,500 of us. That's it, you know. So when my parents called me, I said, Andersen, this name, let's take one of the most common after that name. You could get the variant, the real Line Andersen.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Yes, Andersen. It could have been. Then it's the host line. Bøller Jente. All cities and cities have their own stuff. You have Selbu, you have Vottne, you have a lot of places, Lista, Sparkle, whatever. That's right. I understandller has a sadfuck tag under a bridge. Look how proud we are of it. Damn, I'm talking about sadfuck. What do we know about the sadfuck tag?
Starting point is 00:01:36 I know a little. I rarely talk about sadfuck. But I became very proud when you talked about it now. Why did you notice you were proud? We have Annekatt Vestlid and Sandfuck from Burlr. And Vestlid from Burlr? Yes. So we have something. It wasn't Annekatt Vestlid who wrote it. Let's just say it for the story that it was Annekatt Vestlid who tagged it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Wasn't there any rumour that she was demented and used and wrote a bit too much in that period. I don't know. There was some rumour about that. Could it be that she sneaked out of her old home and took a little sadfuck there? Could it have been Anne-Kat? Let's just beat it. Anne-Kat Herland? No, that's not it.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But she could have done it. Could it be a collaboration. But, no, of course, it's got an iconic status because the composition of the words is so stupid, so bold, and so early on so playful. It's something you've never heard of before and I have to say I am not impressed, but it wakes me up. Weren't there many of them on Nordstrand? Of course there were variations. There were many tags on Nordstrand. But they came from the East Coast and did it. I didn't know those who tagged a lot, but I have never touched a spray box.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I have never done that. But it was a tagging, you know? I've tagged once, under a... you know this... under a shift on a children's mattress in a public toilet at a gas station. Under that, I dared to write once. I've written about it on a toilet. But why do people have so many tasks to do with each other? I never… Don't you think that was before? I feel that the penalty is a bit finished. It's sad if you are finished with people writing things on the toilet as well. I think it's a pity. It's nice for me when I'm in town. I think it's entertaining. Have you ever considered to press one of those numbers? if you have a cock, you can ring it.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Imagine if they hit you on that. I have a little desire for a cock. I have probably been single for 3 years, but I will ring you if it comes so far. Then you have to ring, because then we will take care of you. That's very nice. Then we will put you back in the house. You feel that you are alive if you ring the bell. I saw your ad on the toilet on... I'm a slipper.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm in. And this is from 1999. It was a joke to lose it. Tobias, a 77 year old man. He wrote it 40 years ago. Then we talk elevated blind date. He has kept the number. A home phone.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Because it's 2200 something. Hahaha. No, it was good news. I'm a burglar, sadfuck, sadfuck, sadfuck. No, if it hadn't been so much talking talking, so you had informed me the first time about Sadfuck. Then I was like wow, it's actually been both talking about it and being impressed, but then it was talking about it. It's talking about it. And the only thing for us is that it's about describing our language. We don't talk, we talk broadly.
Starting point is 00:05:01 We use all the words we can. Because I am from the Bacchic team, right? And Bølø for those who are not very well known, I say North. Far East? Far East it is. Come on! Far East it is. I just think, yes, because I think, the reason I say it is because I think it is much up over. It is much up over. It is very shit up there. Brusta and Ulstrup and all that. All the way up and up, into the Schäven. Sounds very idealistic.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And it was for a while, when there was not a place where there were a lot of new and old sisters, it was very nice there. But I totally agree, but the dump in the middle isn't generally a bit annoying. It's up and down regardless of which way you go. There's a lot of real up there. There's one more real than the other. I agree. Abel saw you have… It's a lot of mindset to think up north. 71 degrees north, don't you know? Yes, but I say that you were born in 1973.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's right. You're kidding. That's just because you know I'll be 50 this fall. I'm not a rain god, so it was just a gut feeling. That's right. 73, just turned 50. How does that feel? I like it. To be a little serious, I was in deathbed at my mother's place three years ago. And what you learn is that you don't complain about getting older. You complain about that you're ending something. So I haven't complained about that for a second. I really like it.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yes, I think that's a great attitude. I had a teacher, a theatre teacher once, Irene, who was very old-fashioned. And every year, getting older is a gift. I think that attitude is important. Because if you think about it, it's all about the damn overshadow, actually, that you should die. But you shouldn't die when you are… you don't die when you are 28. You die when you are hopefully sick and you get a different perspective on it. That's right. You have to take with it. That's right. And I think the age crisis, I have an experience that they are more connected with life phases. And that 50 years old is when the young move out and so on. And for me who chose not to have children, then there is no one who moves out.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Instead, now my friends move back in. At the foreplay and the norse play. So it's nice for me. We talked so much about it before we cut the line. You were in a relationship for 20 years, and that relationship smoked. Now it has been 3 years, 1 year with love and 2 years with good mood. It's Russian time for 50-year-olds. You can't live like that for the rest of your life, or you can die. But it will look a bit strange after each one, I think. No, but we said it, we talked about it, that if you have been in a relationship for 7 years, you will be 10 years younger.
Starting point is 00:08:10 If you are 5 years older, you will be 2 and a half years younger. I think that's very good rules. But it's a pity if you are very, very concerned about following it, and then you find what is really in big love monad, after only 7 years. So no, I will have 3 more years. Very stubborn. But no, we will see. The sad thing about it is if you are going to start chasing after finding someone. What I think most of all is that I will have it so fat alone, that the one who comes in, he must beat it.
Starting point is 00:08:42 He should not fill out anything, he should beat it. It means he't be full, he has to be in the top. It means he has to be fun, he has to find a lot. He has to have things on his plate. And he has to follow the news. How young or old can you be? I'm allowed to ask? I love that you just throw questions and then you just judge. Was that okay? I tend to be younger than older. Yes, you are younger. That's next to the VG-script.
Starting point is 00:09:19 How young have you been? It's been young, but I tend to, but I like people around my age. I like people who can have the same references to music. If I tell them, just be quiet nowsingle, I often have trouble in conversations with too many young people. I remember when I was single and talked to girls who were too young, I was like, this is nothing. But that's fun! You can't sit like an old man and feel that the references don't sit, that you feel... No jokes are sitting. No jokes are sitting.
Starting point is 00:10:10 No, it has to be... I wonder, like... I don't know what kind of relationship that was, but I've seen it's been a relationship. He is the manager, David Eriksen, was with her, she was much younger. And she worked at the Lauritsen company and such. There must have been some reference problems and what do you have there? I have just thought the same thing. That those wits are not like, do you remember the studio? We don't sit there anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:36 No, but it's okay, you get younger girlfriend and then you feel young, they say. But do you feel old actually? Do you pretend to be young? You pretend to be... you take a reference that hasn't been taken, and you're like, I don't know who the other guy is. I was actually at... I was at a place called... I was at a place called... Håkon's Värn in Bergen. And we did stand-up. Yesterday?
Starting point is 00:11:02 No, a couple of weeks ago. Okay. And it's the inner, young people, and they were allowed to participate in most of it. And if it got a little rough and a little hard, they were also part of it. They didn't have hair damage. But I tried to control the old references as well. You did? But then I actually fell into Annika Dvesti. In connection with...
Starting point is 00:11:28 That's your go-to. I just said it, I just thought... It didn't go up for me when I said that they don't know who Annika Dvesti is. But then it was completely silent. I could have said that it was wild, as it's name, that it didn't exist. They didn't know that it was bearable. But then I can't make excuses for them, or yes, it is. Then it's not so sharp either.
Starting point is 00:11:50 But then if it hasn't been read by other westerners... But it is, they have grown up with Knerten films. Have they? Don't they? But if you are 19 years old, you don't read who has written the original book when you see the I've been working with TV for almost 20 years now. I've never experienced the feeling. One thing is that there are many people who watch it, but they often do it on sports, right? Or did it before. So many people watch it, I've experienced it, but they haven't been so involved. No, it's quite very, very… On Sundays, my Sunday evenings, it starts to tick in like this. Why did you do that?
Starting point is 00:12:41 Why was it like that? Who thought of how? And I think that's very nice. I have an impression that my followers and those who listen to the podcast here, don't see so much of reality. So I think you get much more than me. But if I get to be in reality, I get a good share. Yes, but no, it's not much, but it's nice. Yes, it is. Really. And we know the pressure out there. I see the ads, put it on top, and I know what kind of pressure they have and what kind of clicks they are doing. And I have actually worked quite actively to prevent meeting young people with the things I do. I have been very afraid of it. Why?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Because I have been very afraid to walk around like... I remember I saw a news report by Dennis and Prebs. And they were supposed to have book signings at shopping malls. That's generally the case. And they ate caviar and chili and that kind of stuff. And they had the same big fans or or as mysterious as Justin Bieber, but they were young. And they had to walk past the young people, when you take your hands out to the side and they just like that, handshakes on your back. I was very surprised. I just saw it and just like, what the hell, if you are an adult person and then you have to behave like that in that way, with that status difference. It feels very strange, or it must feel very strange.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I have been very afraid that... I have just been controlled by it. And I am doing things that I don't want the child to hear. I don't want to take offense to the child looking up at me or following what I do, so that I can get hurt to disappoint them or be a bad example. But from time to time I do things that I have done as a kid. And I think it was just like fourth-level YouTube stuff. Not that you see children on it, of course. I understood that. But it turned out to be a TV show, full package, and it was a success.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Then it was a wave of it. And now with the players, there are also families watching. And it's not a big problem, but I struggle a little bit with it. I'm out playing with my balls, throwing balls with a headset, and then I just notice that it's on a art show, so there has been some football training, that there are some young girls running around and sneezing, and I just notice that they should... I think I walk straight forward, they just stare around. And I can't just take my headset and say hello, what's up? In case it wasn't me they would have thought, it doesn't work otherwise. And it's like selfie, it's a very strange situation to be in. They can't get the camera up, they sneeze, they are on the shopping mall. And there are a lot of children and families coming. And I feel like a Christmas nissen on the shopping mall.
Starting point is 00:15:39 That you just have to take me to the waves. I can't handle it. It's really hard to hold it. I don't think it's that serious. But I have... I just know that what I usually do on stage is two worlds that meet, which I'm not comfortable with. I've heard you say this before. You also have a dream of being canceled. I will be canceled. That's what you do. Is it because you are the edge you are looking for? Yes. Because I've wanted to be the edge as a program manager my whole life, but she has been happy.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yes. So I understand that. I don't want to be cancelled, but I want someone will be many quarrels in the media, where you write a chronicle on each of your teeth, and then I feel like I have to put it off, and then I think, damn, how easy would this have been to solve if you had just talked together as civilized, grown people. It's completely ridiculous to look at how it's just going to be removed from the bench from Botanical Garden, and there are two groups that just digitally do the same thing. Doesn't it just go on to talk together? It would have been solved, because very rarely is the intention to be cancelled. We're struggling with the term racist for example. You see that in a new show on NRK about the right-wing extremists.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Four episodes, really good. I saw everything yesterday almost. And you who have grown up with a lot of new racists around you, and the time we don't want to go back to, and kill Benjamin and such. That was the guy from Börli. Yes, you don't want that. and kill Benjamin and the others. That was the guy from the wave. Yes, you don't want that. And if you manage to get rid of it, a new wave will come. Should you save racist terms for that gang? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Because that's what irritates me. That polarizing, that you are going to be canceled for... It's exhausting, the discussion and the debate, of course. But don't assign me the most gruesome intentions, because you're making a joke with a context. It's like playing bad guy, just in a joke or in a conversation. You have to be able to see some layers here. And there I feel that many are struggling today, or there has been a problem to just understand where things come from. You take, if you say something, you take it for the words for what it is, instead of understanding that here are several teams here. I think the racism debate is a bit difficult, because I feel that you have to rely on those who are exposed to racism, and define what racism is.
Starting point is 00:18:30 In a big way, at least. And then we see a whole house of police reports and the management there, and I think that very often it's just to mark something. Everyone knows that this type of police report will not always lead or have anything to do with it. And then I feel that it is in a way the exhibitionist's anti-racist fight. I'm just going to show myself as a huge anti-racist, while the others have gone out in the streets. We who are 50 years old, we have gone out in the streets since we were 14. So yes, there is a lot of...
Starting point is 00:19:03 It was not something I had on my block to start with. No, no. We won't get into that. I don't know where we were. It was at Dens & Brebs. It was you who didn't want to have such a popular young audience. But what you have to remember, from a marketing point of view, is that it's those who are going will be on your shows in 15 years.
Starting point is 00:19:26 That's true. And I agree. It's nice. I don't change completely personally. But you're a bit afraid that you're in the game, and you'll have a stand-up show, which I will have. Which in no way is for young people. It's not for everyone. It's not like if you sit and watch the game and say, He is funny, he is a little sharp in the game, but it goes away. Then they come to the show and it's completely... There are some things that are scary. I like your humor. I love it.
Starting point is 00:20:02 It's not a child- friendly show in any way. It's good to be 50 then. But it is... But yes, the game. Good success. We knew very little. And it was just the way it had to be. I wonder if they were a little nervous that they wouldn't with them, because it was a bit of a gamble.
Starting point is 00:20:27 The whole concept was that we wouldn't know who would be there, or we wouldn't play if we were to play. And we didn't know anything. This is what all journalists ask. Did you really not know anything? Answer that, and then you can stop asking yourself. No, we didn't know anything. And I didn't know any of you either. No, I knew some of you, but I didn't know who you were. I was very excited to see people come. I was the first man in there. That's iconic by the way. But yes, you took the lead role there. It was a rainy morning. You came to a parking lot and you were put in a car and had to wait a long time. Very long. and then I was put in a car and had to wait a long time. A very long time. Because they were supposed to do the preparation and I didn't know anything about what to do first.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I thought I had to be long, they had to wait a long time over there. So I remember I got a bandage on my eye and it was quite exciting. It was quite fun. It was that, it was quite annoying that you didn't know anything. It was that that lot of fuss that you didn't know. That was what made me a little nervous. I managed to dig into information that I understood that this is a big investment, that this is something they have a lot of faith in. It wasn't like there could be zero budget or a lot of budget for this production. So I understood those things. I had told them that I wanted to be in a quality cast. I didn't want to be in the 9th reality show. So I had said that. It sounded very primitive, but it was important to me.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And it was important that there weren't 40 people there. That there were a good bunch. And they said that it was a big hit. And they said something like, it's a mix of Big Brother and Squid Game. And I hadn't seen Squid Game. The only thing I knew about it was that it was guff and deadly. And then I thought, let's do it. Did they say Squid Game? Yes. Oh, damn. It was exciting. I saw it in front of me, and I said that a lot in the show, I think. I saw it in front of me like an old castle.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I saw that it was like, now you have to find a murder or solve a task. Oh yes? I saw very clearly. Fluido, like? Yes, I had a very clear picture, but I thought a lot about it as a book, or with a book you were reading. And secret entrances and... That's how I saw it. So when I saw the house, I was a little disappointed at first.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yes. But it was like, I came in there, there was nothing else than a house with some cameras around it, and I just had to go around and find out things there, and talk about overthinking the situation. I went around and started looking for small things, tiny things, I saw there were insects in there. So I thought, okay, my worst nightmare. This is an insect, they will play with my fear. Are you afraid of insects? No, I'm not afraid, it was an eddy cup.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm afraid to be licked by a lot of insects. I'm afraid of more legs being worse. And if I have small legs, like a thousand, it's really disgusting. It's so unbearable, disgusting with these small legs, and they are disgusting. They are so unbearable, and disgusting with those small legs. I have no such phobias. But I… don't lie, I was in my gym before I left. Your CPT? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And then I said that you were just waiting to see. Suddenly a cell locks me down in chest, for 9 days alone. So I had a long time behind my head, an experience of ending up in a place, if I was chosen. But my head was processed much worse things. I thought we were going to be buried in excrement, buried alive. I was in much worse. I said that clearly, I should not be locked in a small room. Okay. I said it clearly, I'm not going to be locked in a small room with Klaus. I can be a little bit of a hunk, but if I can't move, then I click.
Starting point is 00:24:31 That's completely wrong, and I'm not going to be in a room, I'm not going to eat rotten balls. That's such a fun conversation, what do you demand from me? I had three grams, I'm not going to be locked in a room, I'm going to in a box, I don't want to eat rotten balls and stuff like that. Or coconut flakes. I remember Robbinson eating coconut flakes and I was like, what the fuck? And I'm not going to be in a place with a lot of disgusting animals. But I had my requirements of quality cast. No, I actually said that too.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yes, you did? Yes, but I... No, let's see. No, you know what? I have worked with TV2 and stuff, right? So we had our agreements there. And they were a little bit of a give and take on it. I was going to be in a reality show and I played in another show, my own show,
Starting point is 00:25:26 when it was for the Edir-recording. I thought it was really fun. I didn't do it. I can't stand when the company Lauritsen did it. It was too much for me. And then I have to show a lot of pain. I had no problem with this as usual, but I can't stand to show so much of that. To be in the basement crying and... What you don't always show that much of yourself is how intelligent you are. I saw you at Wolfgang W. After we got home... Is that what you're going to do? When I'm sitting there, doing nothing?
Starting point is 00:25:55 I would like to... Why didn't we have more existential discussions around the table? Yes, we had... I feel that I talked a lot with people. Mostly you sat in the room and made alliances. Me? Because it's very fun, because when I understood what kind of game it was, that it was Big Brother or Paradise Hotel, that you should create alliances and in a way social play in that way. Then I realized, fuck, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Because it's completely inactual for me to keep going. I can't do that. I do everything I can to avoid drama in my life. If there's some unnecessary drama, that the ladies drag in, or when there's a fight with friends, and such idiotic fights. Just be so kind. I worked so hard to get rid of that. I can't take it anymore. I'll take care of it myself. Yes, I agree.
Starting point is 00:26:55 So then I thought, you know, I just have to... I have to get this done in a different way. So then I decided that I should just look at this as a holiday. There is wine in the store. Just sit on the veranda. Danby had a cigarette. Or the production came with a lot of cigarettes. And I... People who are jealous of me, I don't smoke as usual. But if I get a glass of wine in the glass, and it's summer and sun on each other, I don't say no to a small cigarette. And that was... There were two things. I saw that. Oh my god. So I talked to people and had fun. And when it was put up to who would get money and who would get little money and a lot of money, then I understood what was the opposite in the game, what they wanted to create.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And then it cost me zero to play out that role, as someone who asked some questions and raced a little up there. Because I was not afraid to smoke out in any way. No, and I didn't do that, I said that myself every night. I also managed to change the game and... Take that mic a little closer. change the game and reality pretty well. But I'm a good peeker, so I thought it was so much fun to get it. Right? Oh, now it's exciting, now we have full control of that, and then we try to get full control of that. And then it's like that, alliances my part, work opposite of what you think. I talked to Vida Magnussen yesterday evening, and we just...
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yesterday evening? And you called me? Yes! You are such a good friend! And you never give up, you have the song about him. No, I don't want to talk about you. I can't. I would like to be friends with you, but that round thing, that it's round, I don't think friends with you, but the fact that it's round, that reality is ok. No, but I agree with that. But at least we talk about how we never... what's happening on TV now, we haven't gotten what we have. Because we have believed, as good believers as we are, that we have a small alliance, that we are safe for the rest of our lives. I have had that safe inside. I slept very well, I believed I had friends who supported me regardless of life. And I thought that I would stay here until I go home.
Starting point is 00:29:06 But I tried to get it done, and I thought that was fun. It was a piece of cake. I agree. I like to play. I can like the idea I think it was a bit of a... I look at myself... If I use that program to my own advantage, and you do that, then my goal is much bigger than to succeed in that game. I have to get out of it as a comedian. So my goal or my mission in there is to be like him, funny, nice, everything is there. So this game itself became secondary.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But what did you think when people thought you were most annoying to start with? I didn't know that. No, not us. I have never thought you. People now after being on TV. Oh yes. But I don't understand that. I see you on TV for a nanosecond and laugh. I laugh at everything you see, say, do. Every meet different types of people, and there are many that I shouldn't meet. I saw one guy, I don't know who it is, but one of his name is Sebastian Solberg. Is that a guy? Yes, he is an influencer. I don't know him personally.
Starting point is 00:30:48 He had posted something and tagged me, so I saw through it. I see very little from that world. But he started to analyze the game and was like, Henrik Flavatset, he irritates me. And I'm not a fan of him in the publishing house. Nice. I didn't expect that. It's fun to hear that he has opinions about me. What does he see in me? I think it comes from that Martine thought you were irritating, that she got some space for that. I see that Martine and that guy there, they live in a bubble. I don't see the fact that they have so many other friends outside of showbiz or the world of influence, or that you are trapped in a world that is about celebrities, reality, influence stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Everything you are involved in is in that bubble as well. And if you are in a reality program, you get into the bubble after two seconds. I don't think everyone involved in the game did that. But I notice that those who are Paradise people, they are in the game in one second. And you don't separate the program from the reality. It's as if that's the same. For me, I wasn't close to to see the game as a real world. No. I wasn't close enough. I just thought, okay, now I'm in a completely alternative universe. But it's also stupid, if your goal is to win the game, it's stupid to go into the bubble like that.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Because you can't take rational decisions. As I said, the game turns out to be a big math piece. You have to take care of that, and you have to take care of the money, and you have to take care of those who have that, and you have to manage with that. It is a rational decision, much closer to a emotional decision. Yes, and it is very interesting to see you. I never went to these rooms and made plans and such. You were invited to Godbar, right? No, because that's what I was going to say. If I was lured out by that thing, I would show a side of myself, or get into a wave of that I should start to conspire and become so serious and... And he said that and he said that. I wasn't interested in that. So that's how it is. So that's why you pretended like they didn't hear anything. Yes, that's what we're talking about. So I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I to do and not. I think you are very much on the ball in the programs we have seen so far.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Much more than I interpreted you to in there. I realized that if you put alliances, and I realized that people had alliances, absolutely. I didn't know the whole situation, but I realized that there were some alliances, especially with that girl, and that Danby went from group to group. And you realized more than me. I realized a lot. Absolutely. But I also understood that there is no doubt that one and one will smoke out, and one will stand alone and win.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And then it can't be an alliance. No. And I understood that there will be some twists here, that will ruffle up the things. So if I just get well liked by quite a few people in there, and am myself to enjoy myself, then things will happen that will make me make choices based on the changes that have happened. And if I have not connected a bunch, then I think that could be an advantage for me. So I thought a little bit like that. For those of you who haven't seen anything, this is a little spoiler, but it's a basement floor where the smokers come out.
Starting point is 00:34:42 You can see that pretty quickly. We didn't know that. No, we didn't know. It was a huge shock when it was revealed. But I thought about it for a while. Before I started forgetting, that the people who smoke can come out and see everything that happens. I had that in mind. I thought that they were somewhere. I stopped thinking about it for 4-5 days. I was a bit uncertain. But I didn't think that they saw everything we were doing. No, what I thought was not necessarily that the old participants saw it.
Starting point is 00:35:13 But I thought that we would eventually get the information from the voting room and so on. So I thought that's why I always voted for you, I voted for Danby, I voted for different things. I voted for what I said to you, with the most money. You have a lot of faith in yourself. I was very myself, I thought I wouldn't be taken in to lie or play a game or be a traitor. I just want to be quite straightforward and what I want to serve in the end, that you get to know the information and that you get to know what you have voted for and what you have done behind the scenes. But I have thought about what I see in the episode now, that you and I really like that I am part of the alliance.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Because I also have some principles. I don't break promises, I never lie. I mean, there are some things that I don't want to look very stupid about, I think. And we often thought it was a shame that you didn't want to be in the meeting room with us. Yes, and you said that when we were in there. But at the same time we had a very good tone with you and with everyone. So at the same time as you talked about this, you thought it was nice to be in there. We love you in there. We are out and about, but we do it. And I understood that, and I knew that, and I felt that.. I was never afraid of that. I started talking in the plenum about how I am very ugly. I am 100% transparent and honest. And all I say and do is like this. I don't want to play any games there.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It was kind of conscious. You give the impression that you don't play any games. Because I watch the episodes and you do your own theories and stuff. But you don't play completely out of it. You don't fool anyone. To be honest, there are times when I don't understand what I do. But, yes. Just because… It was like… After a while, the first few days, it was totally the same as if I was in trouble. Just do what you want. For God's sake, no problem. But after a while, I thought, have I managed to get the strategy in some way? And then you get a little more...
Starting point is 00:37:46 It's fun to get it. It's not about being in yourself. Like, no, I feel like being locked in a house on Nesøy, and I die. That's not it. Is that king thing, is that the next episode? That's the next episode. Because then it happens. Then it happens.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Then I had fun. I think it became a bit monotonous. Because we didn't know about the twist. So it became the same thing. And the competition after the beginning wasn't that big and grandiose. And then it came... You have received an email, you haven't seen it yet. No, I haven't.
Starting point is 00:38:29 No, it's a very, very fun episode. Have you seen it? You are so interested. No, but you get it on email, it's fun to watch. It's not fun to watch it on... On linear TV. No, I don't know, I don't like it. My life is not better than watching it on linear TV. But if I get it on Mac and then I have to connect it to the TV.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Because I can't watch it on the Mac. No, but it's clear that if you have such demands, it's difficult. But I don't really like watching it. It will come when it comes. It's fun. It's fun in the episode. But most insane now, I think. But then, without looking too much, I feel that I am completely playing the king of this episode. I feel completely angry. But then I don't know what's happening behind my back again.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And then I was actually a little disappointed. But you played completely the king. And had managed to do it without any help. You had won the whole competition, no matter what. Yes, yes. No, but good. It's fun to watch the clip. I put a lot of each other, drank wine, had fun, had fun, had fun. And that was what I saw. And I didn't know what was said behind my back. And to see that Martina Lunde walks down the hall and says, He's crazy! He's crazy! I don't understand it myself.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And to be a Paradise Hotel player, I don't understand that the dog doesn't understand it myself! And then, to be a paradise hotel player, I don't understand that she doesn't understand that it's very easy for me to play what I do. She took the biggest sum of money, and then that she didn't understand that it was exposed, that it was very easy for others to make the narrative. The funniest thing is if no one had dared to take the highest amount of money, because you would have come as the next last man and stood with the lowest and the highest. What would you have done? The lowest. You would have done that? Yes, I think it would have been easy. Exactly that.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Then Danby would have got the highest amount. And what Marta did was to take the next highest, and then you took the lower one instead of the highest. And that's really smart. It was a no brainer, as I saw it. Yes. So the highest, but then it was between a fairly low number and the highest. Even though I didn't believe in anything. I thought, when I was there, I thought, can one be the best? We have seen that. That's not your finest moment, Placet. Yes, but listen, it was cut as it was cut. Because then they put that voice in sync as they say. It wasn't said,
Starting point is 00:41:26 it sounded like the voice says it while I'm judging here. It's just put on for an effect. But what I think and what I say, can one be the best that it's literally that I think one can be the highest sum. I have a reasoning that goes beyond that. When I say, can one be the best in that sense that one... If you have the least amount, you get it back later. Not only that you are not chosen, or that you are one of the poor, that it is easier to go under the radar, but also that you actually get something physically back. That's what I thought and responded.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Because the money drive is so unfair in this game, that you think that there must be something more. There was a period when you spent very little money, and it was like... you didn't see any future. No, it was... and I really enjoyed it. I have always been fond of playing games, where you build up money and you have to buy it if you have a new armor, a new sword, and new speed. And you can build on your car. I like that. So to see that you could buy things in this room, it appealed to me. It would have been great to be able to talk a little. It was difficult. I won't say too much. No, I won't say too much. No, so it was... At the time, there was a new episode on Sunday, which is quite spin-wieldy. Yes, it's spin-wieldy. And I get...
Starting point is 00:43:14 You get blown out a bit. People get mental breakdowns and get sick. I get nearly death sick. Yes, death sick of course. But you get blown out a bit. I lost my hearing on both ears. And it's so much fun. If you can't cut it, I understand. Then I understand why you're so young. It was very fun for us when you lost your hearing.
Starting point is 00:43:38 It's strange to say, but it was. I had a lot of pain, but I thought at the same time that this is so funny. Because you lost it so seriously that I just forget it. Because you really missed it. Double-sided ear-tearing. Yes, but I have met many with ear-tearing, I have not had it myself ever. They have not become completely deaf. No, I was almost completely deaf.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And the worst? And that was fun. Yes, it was completely... I can not remember, I hated it. It took a long time before you got well too? Yes, a very long time. It was hell. It took me several months before I heard it again. No, it's not good. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Now you want to play? No, no. I think it's a bit embarrassing to look at. I think it's embarrassing to be an adult and play. I'm sitting here looking at myself and thinking, oh my God, you're embarrassing. You could have had a normal job, you could have worked at a reception at a hotel, and then you're sitting there like this, no, now we have to vote. Get him out. I think it's a bit embarrassing. I think it's good to hear that you're aware of that. I don't think about it, but I understand that you see yourself and think about it. But I haven't thought about the same thing before you say it now.
Starting point is 00:44:49 No, but now you're thinking about it. But I think about it when you see yourself, that you are a well-made person as well. So you are very yourself in what you do. I am often very screwed up, not necessarily so much in the game, but I am often a lot, I can often be very far away from the basic energy I have. Be very much speaking height, be very... Despite the fact that you are actually a little bit lazy? Despite the fact that I am actually a very calm, basic energy. A calm But if you work with whatever, no matter what you work with, you get a little break from it. I work with humour. I work with being funny, so you get a little bit addicted to it. So there is maybe a little less humour than she is used to.
Starting point is 00:45:57 She sees me being funny when she sees me on TV and such. very, very much on, and at home I am probably more worldly and a bit concerned about things being tidy and logistical and such, and it is an incredible contrast. So I understand that she thinks that is a bit strange or a bit stupid. You are, from our side, we who know you from the beginning and after, a strightening. Yes. Really? It is quite stright in many ways. Yes, and that is a bit in. A quarrel? Yes. Really? Yes, quite a quarrel in many ways. Yes, and that is a bit in contrast to what one could think about Henrik.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yes, no, I am quite… A quarrel, you are a bit politically engaged and socially engaged, that doesn't come so clearly when you don't know each other. No, I don't. I like that. I like that it's double-sided. I think humor on a single surface is very boring, I think. I think people are very bad at evaluating the whole of a person. And I have always thought of that since I was little. Because at least as a child you judge very much. You see yourself and then you see the character trait of others, small things, where you give yourself a whole impression from just seeing a tiny bit of a person. And you are very easy to judge when you are young. I have always thought that I have felt underestimated myself.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And I have just understood early on that there is a much more in people than what you see. If you see someone who is very modest, a modest little nerd, then there is much more in that head than what people around recognizes or knows. and I can see that those who have been silent killers before, Revenge of the Nerds and all those things, they have a lot of time and capacity to evaluate society around them. If you clap all the time, you don't have the opportunity to take a step back and evaluate and analyze. So many who are calm in their own way, get an incredible development afterwards, because you have not been out of the front all the time. But that means that you have been very tolerant to a lot of different people?
Starting point is 00:48:19 Yes, I have always been in many different environments. I have that too, but I don't get that much energy from to fight with God and the world, like you do. I like to choose for myself. Yes, I am also a bit happy. I have to work a bit to talk to people sometimes. But I say to myself all the time that even if you are not so good at talking at the beginning, there is always something interesting to get out of a person. And remember, don't just talk to yourself all the time. Try to ask questions.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Try to learn something that you didn't know before. Because there is always something to draw from people. So I just tell myself, but it is often a bit boring if you sit around a table in a wedding dress and think, oh my God. Then I get panic. If I come to a boring table, I get total panic. Then I sit and look at the table with a long look over the table and get panic. But when it comes to asking questions, when you become single for the first time in 47 years, that's when you understand the difference between people who ask questions or just talk. People who sit and talk about themselves, in an hour's time, it is incredibly uninteresting. I am very shy to be that person. In a short period of time I can talk a lot, I can measure, and I think this is a gift to this guy here now. But if you, over time, understand that I can't keep up like this for two, three hours,
Starting point is 00:49:51 then I'm also ready, I can have a dynamic. I can think just the same way. I was on the podcast with Harald Eia, and then I realized that sometimes I can sit like this and think like this, now you have to be quiet soon, because now it's time for me. It's not good. No, it's not good. I'm going to be a wedding dresser. I didn't have a bad table or anything, I had it very nice. But the worst thing I can think of, which is a good wedding dresser wedding is that you have to be in the glass all the time, you have to be in the frame, and then the bridegroom has to kiss or under the kiss,
Starting point is 00:50:30 and if someone is in the bathroom, everyone has to kiss on the cheek and stuff. You know what? I'm so into it. But are you in? It was so funny. But you are in? If I feel like I'm totally caught, and it's very strange not to be in on it, I'll be in on it. Because it's unpleasant not to be in on it, but it's a very, very stupid thing. I was in a wedding there all the time, and I thought, who is the one who starts it?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Who is the one who starts these things every second minute? What is your theory? Because my theory is that there are people my age who are just out in the city every six months. Yes, there are probably several. Then they get really crazy. Several truths here, but I found the point. Because I was going to the bathroom and then I went to the bathroom while they were sitting around. And then I saw what table it was.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I was excited. Everyone was so excited with the tramping. I came back from the bathroom and saw that the table that is the main engine for the Stingas is a fucking table. It's the only one they have. It's the only one they have. It's the boring table, that's a disaster! It's a table that is, if not boring, it's like, it's fundamentally boring, but they are out there, they are coming after each other. It's a living table, because they do those things there, but it's damn boring. If they are going to talk about something, an exciting conversation doesn't exist there. No, because they don't have a conversation, because then they wouldn't have broken off with this. Just a flat tip, and they notice it themselves, so they have to escape from the reality when we do these trumpets. And from the day after, they say, you were so fun yesterday, we were on the move every third minute. Jesus. I found out about it. If you wonder about it, the boring table, or the table that really lives, is not necessarily the best place. I'm going to Brullup now in Italy, to check.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Are you going now? No, in June. I'm going to Monaco tomorrow. Wow! Monaco is fun! I've never been there. Holiday or? Holiday. I have a friend who lives and works there. I'm a friend of his, he's going down. An oval Oval Wiken, who visits us.
Starting point is 00:52:48 That will be cheap. It will be. But we live for free. Yes, but it's expensive here. I had the damn medial led, kiwi.com, which ended up giving me a Kiwi point. They had flights that didn't pay much attention to me. It was so damn expensive that I was absolutely not satisfied with the kiwipoints, because I would never use kiwipoints again. But I did not reach them and it was a terrible customer experience. But I had the kiwipoints.
Starting point is 00:53:37 And then the principles are not so important anymore. It was several years later, but I still had the kiwipointwi money, so I got the opportunity to travel to Nisqy. Yes, you did? Yes. So now it's a new round with Kiwi, but I think I've gotten a little better. You must have been forced to sign a contract, saying that you have gotten thousands of Kiwi points for free. I don't know what I was supposed to do with the Kiwi thing, but... You're not going to...
Starting point is 00:54:03 I have a free flight tour too, free in... Yes, it's nice. Monaco is cozy. You have been there many times. Yes, I have been there a few times. And you count on one hand? Or two hands? I don't think I have to count on two hands, but one of the reasons for that was that I was the host of a show Fridret on NRK, and the best thing about working at Fridret is that every year the arrangement in Rome. NRK wanted me to go as a host at 8 pm and say like this, Welcome to Monaco! Blah blah. And I was like, that doesn't happen. Is it crazy? It exploded. And then we didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So I refused. I got a little angry there of course. But luckily I was able to stand as a host while it was revealed the news was revealed that there were several dozens of rap deputies. So Monaco, but Monaco is very nice. It's very nice. That's what I have the impression that it's very nice. I have been to France several times, but never... I value to buy a linen dress and a panamáte. And maybe a stick. But you don't have to buy that in Monaco, you have to buy it in front of him. It will be the most expensive life suit and panamáte you can get in Dake.
Starting point is 00:55:35 So be it! Okay! I have a thing that I will have a new look in the city, in the holiday city I'm in. And this sounds like I've done it every time I've been on the ferry my whole life, but I've only done it twice. And that's in the sea, now in Manchester. Okay, Manchester is sixpence then? No, it was actually a real Christmas hunt, the 5000 on the table. It was supposed to be a real working class suit, but it just became, no. So, yes, no, I'll have one clothes down there.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Yes, but you chose the most expensive shopping mall in the world, probably. We actually sat on the roof of the brown pub and the dress was the best. In Manchester? Yes, but now I'm talking about Monaco. No, then... But no, one more dress. No, it will be fine. What are you going to do in Easter? I have a small cabin that I will have some friends on. So it will be traditional Easter.
Starting point is 00:56:31 But very cozy. Lamb and... It will be nice. I will have some lamb. I will also go to the cabin in the other half of Easter. It will be a nice Easter. It sounds nice. Monaco first and then... Two days of work from Monday to Tuesday, and then Wednesday I go to the city. That's nice. Easter holidays are some of the best. I think so. But what are the traditions? The Easter ravioli? There are some traditions. When I was younger I was in Norfell at Tempelseter. That's the area where we are. I am on myelseter. It's the area where I am.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Is it? I am on my way up to Sigdalen. You drive through it. I drove there a hundred times. I know that. It was very cold every winter in the whole of Barnum. There were Easter games. The adults made a gravel track.
Starting point is 00:57:23 We drove big rubber rings. There, skis around the myrids, and it was a lot of fun with air guns, and a lot of stuff. That was my childhood. I want to make that for my son. Now it's Christmas, I bought a Christmas tree for the first time. Then you experience the things a little bit differently, because you just want to make the traditions. How old is it now, 2,5-3? 1 year and 6 months. He was 1 year when we were there. Yes, he was not.
Starting point is 00:57:53 He is cute. He is very cute. But traditions... No, as an adult I have not been so interested in traditions. Easter, lamb and... love and that of course. Because the nice thing about being an adult is that you just take the traditions you like. Yes. And then I think it's just nice to have… I don't need so many traditions. To have a whole December with traditions and Christmas… I couldn't miss it. I take a couple of days
Starting point is 00:58:22 when Christmas is approaching and then we just screw a little bit on. Screw on the light. Two days. I take a couple of days when Christmas is coming, and then we screw a little bit on. Screwing on the light. Two days. It's the people you're going to have, with the Christmas and Easter and all the trips in Sigdal, as you have been through. And there is the house husband life. So it has been nice to be close to that. I am a working class girl. Yes, you are, you know, a girl from Bøler. Block or? Block, yes. Fourth floor. Three rooms apartment. 67 square meters, two adults, two children.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Two children in one room. Of course. Everyone had that. Yes, some were up there. And we didn't hang out at home with each other. There were some in the village up there. Not many, you say? Not many. There is a house, it was the most posh we knew about. Right above the table there is a small part called Tvetoråsen, and there is a white house, and we called it the White City.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And up there we actually thought they had employees. There are big differences. And slaves, slaves and... Yes, yes, yes. We actually thought, the term butler, we screwed up with that. So it was, yes, we were close, we, Block. It's a long journey. A long class journey.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Monaco. Now I have moved back to the east coast. I have more hands now. I used to be in Monaco. I call that a class journey. I have moved back to the east coast now, down in Bjørvika. I have not been accepted. I tell everyone, but now I'm in the east coast. They say, no, no, no, clap again. I am going to end this podcast here, and I thought that I would either play an Easter episode alone, between the two of us here now, I can't guarantee that, or it won't be an episode next week. So it's one of two episodes, but you have to fucking bear it.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Exciting for people to wait and see. We'll see. Maybe something will come up on Friday. When will it be? On Friday. Is it Friday? I have to watch it. Do you have anything to add at the end? Yes, if you don't play… I notice that I have to pee. If you don't play the whole episode, can you play a 10-second one, like this is the
Starting point is 01:00:42 end of the world? Thanks for me. Fuck off. And have a good Friday. Fuck off. Have a nice Friday. Fucking hell. Have a nice trip to Monaco. Thanks for that. And thank you for coming. It was very nice. It was very nice. And thanks to you. It's amazing. Bye!
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