Fladseth - #193 - Haakon Lange

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

At mannen har et vikingnavn er det vel ingen tvil om. God prat ble det òg!

That was Kurt Nilsen's deadly classic ski show. Hi, you are on the stage. It is quite the case that I have the long hook in the studio. Was that the viking name? Is it? Is it? I feel like if it had been long ball, it would have been viking. I think it's long ball, you are a viking. I think long balls came later, you know? I think so, because you know Toppenbeck? He is called Ellen Åsse Fagernes Longballe.

That's her name. Ripp said goodbye now. She smokes and there are young people who don't know who it is, but it's bullshit. You should have Toppenbeck in your reference book. I have a show where I drop Annika Westley. The early book writer and the legend. I lost a lot of people there. So she is done. And she said that because if you have to choose one of the two you should have, it's Annika Westley. With all due respect to her, she is born in NNHs Fagernes, took the long ball and got married. So she got married with a long ball?

Yes, and had a great, as everyone remembers, fantastic show. She was a editor for many years. Was it fantastic? Great, yes. Yes, I think so. In the form of that it was... Why was it? I will never was? I never saw it. No, if it was so fantastic in a fable way, I'm not sure, but it was fantastic in the time it was, as in the 90s, and as children of the 90s, in an extension of the Seven Sisters and Hotel Caesar, offshore of course, then the Lord came as a little bit... fresh. That's good to say. The Lord will come in as a fresh breath.

I think I've never heard that before. You just started to talk shit. No, the top, but he will come in fresh. Then the top will come in as a fresh breath. No, that was nice. refresh you. No, we can't close the door of the long ball yet. We just have to take a little bit more. Alright. Because it's not unusual. It's actually a pretty common name.

Long is long ball? Long ball. And what is clear to me is that the term ball, as we then, it covers both a point and a point. You think it's just a point, but I mean it's a collection of parapsychology for the whole 20th century. Oh, you mean that? Yes, I think it's become that. You think so?

Ball, right in the ball, it's not specific to the point then. And you don't think so? No, I mean the whole thing. Okay, maybe it's regional differences, because it's a reference. And the ball, there are two balls, no, two, that's isolated from the rest of the... I think the balls are more determined, right in the balls, as we're talking about. Yes, yes, yes. It was right in the balls? Yes, yes. How do you say that? Yes, yes. Right in the balls? Yes.

Then I think it's clear that it's the point and the point we're talking about. But I'm coming in, yes, regional as you say. Right in the balls, but I'm both a pick and a point. It's a fantastic start to this podcast. Yes, I think it's great. But let me ask, what is your favorite Kurt Nielsen song? Kurt Nielsen? Now I actually saw that he was a guest in Erl Mørg's podcast. Yes, that's good booking., so he wasn't a guest?

No, but Erl Mørg has been his first guest. I haven't been a friend of his. I've been such a fan of Kurt. But Erl has actually been. Okay. But I've been his fan since later. When he was in the LCK's four-day show at Sønd, and I think it's really nice. I've heard that in interviews before. No, he was a bit shy, but what's the song? You're going for She's So High today. Yes, I always do. And I have a very limited record. Never Easy, She's So High. And then there's the one I remember in Farta,

and then there's a couple more that I have mixed up. But I think She's So High is not his, I think. No, it's not. It's Never Easy? Yes, it's Never Easy. And then my strongest song, Kurt Nielsen, which has become my favorite song, we're going back to 2008. I was on a train from Åndersnes to Hamar.

I don't remember why they did it. But then I had loaded his newest album, because it was before the streaming time. And then I heard his duet with Willie Nelson, Lost Highway. Lost Highway, we've been through this in general. And why do I remember that? Because they sat on the train and read the paper edition of VG, because they had a big special with Fritzl's basement. Oh, damn.

Because that was then... I read it and my eyes were dry. Did you see the apartment complex he had down there in Amstetten? Because that was right after the demolition of course. And then VG was really on. Well, I think it's almost too little. I think so too. You have the podcast, Where Were You?

Yes. Where you take a guest and tell them where the guests were in an current matter. Fritz, you said, where did I take it? You took it? Yes, it was the King. Was it not? Yes, it was about Fritz. I don't remember if it was in connection with the court case or just Fritz when he was at

his best in 2008-9. But I remember talking about it. I love that case. I love the dark. I love it. I love that thing. And I love the dark. I love it. I have the deepest feeling for Elisabeth and the whole gang. And the young one. I have the same deep feeling for the 20 million who had to die in concentration camps during the Second World War. But I love to watch the inner circus of Hitler documentaries.

I like the story. I think everything, and the World War in color and everything. Let's quickly go through the short stories of Fritzl while I get something. Okay, Josef Fritzl, a retired engineer from Amstedt in Austria. He kidnapped his daughter Elisabeth Fritzl, 24 years before he was taken, in 1984. And what our friend Josef did, he got her to got a letter from his mother and Josef's wife Rosemary that she had now applied for asylum in a cult. And then she was 24 years old and had seven children. One of them was unfortunately dead, and he burned the house. And three of them were taken to the house where he lived, because there was no space.

And the news was that the daughter had sent them from the family. We don't have more space for the children in the family. So they were sent up and lived in Helmthein with their grandparents. And it was Elisabeth and three children who grew up in that basement. It's terrible, but also fascinating. I mean, I think it turned out that I mean, I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. I think it's possible. and he was chosen for that. And then I see in front of me that they are on their way to the prison guard, Asma and Fylde Maria,

where should I go now? Who will be the next man? And he has chosen to look at me on the list, and it's Joseph Fritzl. Yes, he has unfortunately become a little bit older in the last few years. He is like 90, good old. This is a few years ago, I should say, but then it came out in interviews, that he was an insanely psycho, manipulative and tried to...

He is actually the first and possibly last, I have not read about the last five years, but at least the first in the history of Austria, who is doomed to slavery. Yes, yes. That's the one. Because the workers die. If they were cuddled, that's not a problem, but... Sex slaves then? Yes, at least the daughters of the poor, Elisabeth.

That's the one, I'm not going to be too fiasco about that anyway, but it's completely in the past. No, I don't fiasco that much with it, but I can't, I'm so far away from myself, that I can't, and I'm not that emotionally connected to my emotions. And you have to be honest with me. I think, I mean, I follow, I can get into how damn it was, and it sticks a little bit in me. But it's just that, that some live a very pleasant, nice life, some live in poverty and such, but I don't think it's necessarily that bad. It's not damn necessary, because you find happiness in the small things. And then there's that, you don't expect so much either, right? No.

So there is the difference between expectations and reality. But to come to such a hell, on so many fucking plans, that it's your father, and you are in there, and the basement is not one year, it's 40 or 20 years. It's so much terrible in that case. And another thing, you are in a much bigger degree programed to to joke around with things like that, because you live as a comedian. I'm just a guy.

So I can't help but joke around with Jose Fritzel. Then people think I'm completely wrong. It's so fucking nice to have that from Vegard. What should we call you? You are a comedian, or at least a podcast man. Yes, that's what we can call it.

Podcast man, quiz master. Yes. We can say that. We can say that. You have a very popular quiz on the New US scene. Is that once a week? Once a week. Cool.

And I think it looks full the next time. It's full every time. It's a hell of a success. It's stabilized around 55 teams. So you've been there. There will be local radio Oslo here. But it's Soria Moria by Torshov. Built in 1928, but she never forgot.

And it's full in the restaurant. Stage 1 and 2 and lounge. I don't know the story of Soria Moria by Torshov.. I don't know much about the story of the Sora and the mother building in Torshav, but when I look at it, I know the NASA a little, so that's the second building you've ever seen. The big thing, the school of the sea, Sora and the mother. Yes, right. A real NASA building. Yes, it can be.

A really good NASA building. Is a nice place up there. It's like a cultural castle up here in Torshav. I wonder if it's maybe the Terbov or something like that. You think so? I'm just asking. But what do you think about that? I think it's... I think I was good when I was little,

because I was above average, interested in following. I watched TV with mom and dad, and I followed my new games, so I think those things were a bit interesting. And I felt that they at my age, I felt very little about those things. So I felt that they had quite good overview. Give me a junior version, T.P. Junior or Chenille Junior, Junior and Chenille and such, at that time, then I was strong.

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It's 10% talent and 90% hard work. I'm tired, I'm tired with the years and not bad, but I feel like if I don't care about geography and numbers and cities, I'm bad at those things, but if I meet A and A, then I know things that many others can't. Yes, because that is what I like about making a quiz. I'm not a big participant myself, so it's fun to go on. But primarily for the social and sports questions. That's the way it is in the city. But to make questions that should be found broadly,

that was just right, difficult, every week, that's pretty... It can be pretty boring. It seems like you have, for the first time, the voice with it. You have that package. Now so damn. I mean that people from your region often have a little bit of the same type, a certain personality, and you are a bit funny and funny in your clarity. Yes, maybe. But it's kind of involuntary. Yes, involuntary. You notice that Hulsker, you notice that he is Djupevik. Knut Marius?

Knut Marius. Yes, yes. The same Ulla, the same type, and it's clear... I have to say it... There are things like that. I'm very pleased with it. It's nice, because what's so stupid about a dialect at the starting point is that it's very flat. Flat, flat... Flat, and then...

It's flat. And remember that neither in, or mentioned, Bernd Hulsgaard or Knut Marius Hupfvig is from the city of Molde. People always ask about that. But those from Molde talk like this, like I do. They are from Molde and are from Molde. While others from the district around. We can decorate with a little more of a verbal No, but it is not, but it is the same, it is the type of way to talk. Yes, and in any case, when we screw on in quiz format, it doesn't have to be Shalabaisi in the monitor and QI. We are going to go to Givoraj! Christian Sund is the same, Christian Sund. It is sharp.

It is sharp, yes. And I have seen a lot to Smøda a lot of the island, which is the island between Kristiansund and Trondheim. Because you had a nice house there? No, my, our good family friends, I mean my father, his best friend, they have been together, they are from the same place, it is Bekkeleggen, Norrstedt. And then he moved, Tor, to Drammen, got a family there. But they have always been very good friends, the families, very close together. And those two boys were on the road together, but when they were small, like. And after a while, the family bought a old nail out there.

For two crowns, I guess. And I took care of the whole thing and got a real nail shop in bond there with a bridge and fishing lines, crab lines and yarns all over the place. Bows and all sorts of really nice fishing stuff. And up in the second floor and the hamster there were good opportunities. Not just that, it was really nice fishing spots. And up in the second floor and the house there, there were some good opportunities. Not only that, it was really nice too. Yes, because I was there in connection with my two friends Stian Andreasen and Magne Petersen were going to hold a review.

A review that was going to open the happy day at Veigården. And then we ended up in the same place, there on a Narspil. Yes. And then we ended up in the Yes, that's right. I promise. It's not that interesting for people to listen to. I think it's really interesting. But I won't listen to it. It was my youth as a child in paradise for me. Yes, right. Yes, quiz man, I should say. Hit me. Try me. Oh, on quiz? What category?

A bit good to mix. Good to mix. You can get... Take something that is easy to find in the ground. Okay, there are two American participatory data that have three... Three double letters. Take another one. It's the worst I could have gotten. Really? I've seen it with double letters. Take that one. It's the worst I could have gotten. It's like that. You start thinking letters and at the same time American participations and American choreography. Really bad.

Who were the first two program leaders we were going to dance to? Yes, right? I'd say Katrine Moholt and... She won, you know. She won, damn. The first one is a shitload ofus, Frito Willeborn. No, but it's a good tip. He's in Lille Juridsen. Lille Juridsen? Not big.

Sunduridsen. Tommy Steine. Tommy Steine and... Gurisor. One more, then. Gotte blandar noa. A a a a

a a a a a a Yes, that's right. Like that. guy. But you have a clinging thing. I'm very selective about what I remember. When you're standing on your feet, giving us a small collection of free stuff, you can say that the engineer from Amstaffen... Amstetten.

Amstetten. Amstetten. That's what I'm thinking. And I would like to have that spice. Because it's a bit related to the Amstetten thing. Yes, because it's a lot of spice. I heard the football quiz show podcast. To Magnus Deval.

Magnus Trygve Olsen Deval. And he had a question about the World Cup qualifier in 1998. In Norway. And I mean this seriously, I know everything about that qualifier, because I had a VHS when I was a child, that just stuck. Commentator's board, everything stuck. I think everyone who scored all goals in that qualifier, on the Norwegian side. And I can say that the World Cup 1998 tournament, the main tournament, I am pretty strong there, because I have played that game, the World Cup 1998 game. So I can say that, yes, Kam played that so much, I could have been the type to say that I can do it easily, I can do it with all the groups.

I can't say that. No, you can't say that, but you could have got an assignment about who scored the first goal in that qualifier. I would say Peter Rudi. That's not a bad idea, I'm standing on the sun. Because I can do absolutely everything. I would say Peter Rudi. It's not so bad to guess with Ståle Solbakken. Yes, it's not like that. Because you know absolutely everything. Yes, I think so. Solskjärskåret is three goals in the qualifier.

It was two against Aserbatchan in the first qualifier. What was the team's score in the first qualifier? Team score in the first qualifier, Frodi Grådås in goal, Alfinge Håland in right back, Dan Eggen in midfield, with Ronny Jonsen, Stig Inge Bjerneby on the left. And then we had, shall we see, Rejktdal. Of course, he had the last sunshade at 2-0.

Frank Strandli, of course, he was involved in all qualifiers without being taken out of the championship. Yes, Frank Strand, I remember. The pizza baker? Yes, because he was. Yes, he is the pizza baker. He is the pizza baker. He is the pizza baker? Yes!

The chain? No! Yes! It's Frank Stanley. Who is it now? Yes, you can see that. Yes. No, and also Storl Sobbakken, of course.

Leo maybe? No, it wasn't him. We don't have time for that. No, we don't I'm standing on the ground, of course. Leo maybe? We don't have time for that anymore. No, we don't have time for that anymore. I'll just stop here. I have to stop. You didn't manage. I can't do it anymore. You can't.

I've done a little bit of preparation today. Okay. It's been a bit of a struggle there. I think we've come through the last episodes quite but now I have a bit of a block. You asked about the Viking name. For me it is a real Viking name. What is the first name after the name? I think Lange is the most popular Viking after the name we have. Yes, maybe.

Yes, it is. What would you have been in the Viking time? Oh, damn. So Viking time and such, I think that's so interesting. But what could I have been? What could I have been? No, that's not it. But I have a kind of... I'll listen to this. Try to live yourself into that time with a little involvement, even if you don't sit there so interesting. Because say you had been there, in Vikingthea, with your ethics and morals and your thoughts from what you have now. And the other guys were going out to plunder and rape, like a hell of a thing, completely. What would you have done? Would you have put your foot down on something? or did you find a way to sneak away? When you were talking about the plundering and the rape?

Yes. Plundering, could you... Yes, or are you... From what you said, plundering can go, but I had most likely tried to find a way out. Yes. But, I don't want to fake it, but I could use the fact that managing this and keeping it in mind is as important as the actual action. So I could, under the pretext of you fixing it. Let's just take it. I'm one of the guys. Okay, Jokko. Lange. Then we will finally go out and rape. Are you with us? Come on, the boat is leaving now.

It's so important now that in order not not going to be raped and raped back, then someone has to be careful. What the hell are you saying? Gay? Gay? What are you talking about? Are you kidding? Are we going to be raped and raped? I'm so sure of myself that I don't have to be on it. You mean you're safe on yourself. I don't think I was that kind of person. I'm a little bit of a victim here now. I was a little bit angry, but I was one of those types. I was a bit confused, but I was certain.

I was a bit difficult. I think you buy it. Okay, fine. I'll be more mature. So you'll be here organizing while we're out. That's right. We'll prepare the next break. There's always one step ahead. So now you're doing that. There's an action we haven't planned for long. Now you're here preparing and put put this right for the next action. Okay, so when we get back, you have some boxes and stuff ready and you have a box of...

Everything is ready. Everything you can fit in there. Here are the light sticks and here it is. Everything is packed and ready so that we can just take the next one on board in our boat. And then I already talk to you about the next plan. And the next stop. We'll buy it for a long time. Thank you.

See you then. It's sad, of course, if you're first with it. It probably sounds like the episode of the Vikings, but it's sad if you have to start sneaking it under. It's very strange that you take it with the root. No, I don't know, it's a sermon, but a little weird and fl raven, maybe it wasn't that cool, but I'm so conflicted and life-fearing to get physical pain. Or that others are suffering from pain. I'm afraid of that. I don't think that's such an unusual fear.

No, but then they... I would have taken it and stood in the sense that someone has to keep up with this. Yes, you are absolutely right. I really didn't want to go into war or risk my life at all. So I dreamed of being a bowman or a catapult, but Viking, there was one. They were assembled, there were Schollbergs, they didn't have that many of those variants, you know? But if you had been in the army, you had gotten a sword and a shield, and you had to go to war, would you have refused to go and hide behind your back, or would you have just said, no, I'll just do it, I'll just get it? No, if I had been put there like, now you're going to do it, then I would have done it.

But if it's a path before you're on the battlefield, then I take that path. Damn, damn shit to be in that game and then you're the only one who didn't believe in Valdal in any way. And if you believed in it, then it's not that close to eternity in Valdal either. No, exactly. But you talked about war and things like that. I was in the defence. I haven't been there. No, you haven't been there. No.

I was at the training camp and they never contacted me again. I wasn't at the training camp. You weren't either? No. Because I was called in. We got a training camp part one. We got a schedule to fill out. And then there was a physical meeting on part 2, with Vector, Dest and Kjohei, and then it was yours.

I never got to part 2. What did you write? Have you any problems with sight? Yes, I was a terrible physical condition. I was 80 cm tall and I weighed around 110 kg. So that was a bit stupid. You were not like... Unlucky in the BMI. Yes, a bit unlucky in the BMI at 30 for the defense.

But it's always a question of motivation. And then I was like, it's not so dangerous to get in, but if they come in, then I'm in. And then it was if I could think about serving abroad, and I said yes. And then it was like, I can get so angry that it's black for me. Agree, completely agree, partly agree, and so on. I was completely agree. And that combined with that I want to serve the foreign and a national physical constitution,

no, my properties were not wanted by the Royal Norwegian Council. It is so easy to get rid of it. Can you be so angry that it's black now? Yes, yes. Totally agree. I should not add more. Today it is very difficult to get rid of it. I agree. I shouldn't have said more. Today it's very difficult to let go. Is it? Do you think it gets easier and easier?

I was jogging with a group in a military camp. Maybe I wrote a contract with Håkon Sværl. Yes. And it was a very nice group. I met a lot of nice people there, and there was a good atmosphere at the show, or a usable atmosphere, a good impression a bit early in the evening, without alcohol of course, from the surroundings it went well, but then I got the impression that I was talking to one who was not very excited, but who was there anyway, and did the best out of it, but it wasn't easy to get out of there. No, because it's like... There are things that describe that... When you first eat... Okay, then we do the best of it. And this comes with age, so it wasn't before.

It could be really bad if you just put things in the wrong place. Now I'm like, okay, you know what? Then just fix it and never think about it. But you, who are the hero of Norway, the player Henrik, did the company have a military room there? I look at it and I think it's alright. I said a lot that I wanted to be public, so I just wanted to be funny and funny, and I want to attract those types of people to my show, my stand-up show, who like it, who can take it and understand it. And it's not super inaccessible and super boring, but there are some who are both on the tip and who are a little boring.

Yes, because you have a very clear style, and if you have a clear style, you feel a clear audience. Yes, maybe. I don't know. I don't think I should do too much reality, and I think it's fun to take the concepts that fit me a bit, or that are new and exciting. So the game was a concept like that. Yes, because as you know, it was very nice in the game setting, but you don't get close to Henrik Fladseth in the game. No, I don't know if you need to get that close. I don't really like... In the podcast, you get pretty close. And I think that's nice, because there is a limited audience. And don't do so much outside of the podcast, because there will be a limited audience, and don't do too much outside of the podcast, because it's supposed to be a limited audience, who is involved in the stuff, it shouldn't be too many listeners, it shouldn't be too many listeners who come in and say

Oh, damn, I'm not going to have too much criticism, because it should be good enough. Imagine if you were in the company Lauridsen, and you were in the backstage, and you were totally in the basement mentally, and then you do it, and the camera is close to you, and you are going to be beaten, and Dagote is clapping on your shoulders, and now you are the best version of yourself, and the hair is already... I had probably had a good time in the military, even though the things I had been very bad at when I was in the military, I have with years understood the values, so Before, I had been struggling to order the SIRD and such. And I had been struggling and I had not been able to take the altitudes seriously and such.

Today I can understand the value of military discipline. I understand why a barracks should be completely clean and washed down to the smallest dustbin. I understand why they drill so hard on it. There is something about it, of course, that in order to be able to have order in the field with the weapon and you have the responsibility for life around you and it is a huge situation, then you have to have order on your back. I understand those things, I understand why people do it. So I have a healthy mind and logic and experience, I have done what I understand.

I would have been better off earlier, I would have been better off now too. But I was looking at the company outside, and I was just sitting there crying in the mountain wall. And I don't care. And it's very hard. I can't like a good mountain trip, but to be completely lonely. And it's nice to be with. I watched an episode. And it was like, they have started to get quite experienced, the gang that is in there now.

But this year season now? Yes, it's a good gang. And they have been through all the hard cleaning inspections and just what the hell is this? And they really drill both on discipline and routines and now they're almost soldiers, it seems. And then it gets better to wash windows on the backside of a building. And they are washing the windows and suddenly two jeepers come in with masked enemies. Fii as they say in my army. Oh, that's right. Fii they say.

Because it's Fii. And they come and basically backbind the participants and kidnap them. And it's completely ridiculous of course. They have no idea what this could happen. And one person who is not taken and abandoned is of course Karin Klæumann, an actress. And she should have been a soldier by now, but she's lying there and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing and What do we do then? You have to be fully prepared. You shouldn't be flacking around like this. The cameraman is like, you know what? You know what's happening? And that's a bit of a distraction. Yes, because that's what I do my biggest challenge when I see things like that.

I take some acting around the shape, for example. I take some ground and stuff. I think I'm really done watching. And on the company Lauresen, I really like the company Lauresen, but just when the beat is like Oh damn, now the toughies are coming and kidnapping them, and then it's like, yeah, it's going well. No stress. That's true, I couldn't take it all seriously, I understood that it was a game. But it's somehow... You are so hopeless. The only thing they should train on first is if the camp is attacked, what do we do? Where is the alarm system? If you play a game where you infiltrate an enemy's headquarters, you have to be very careful not to be seen,

because then the alarm goes off at once. That's okay. If one sees you, just think, do you have the alarm just two meters away? Yes, press the alarm, then it goes off. And then there are speakers and stand still, stand still, stand still, stand still. And so it was interesting to see that

the routine was so lacking in the most important things. Yes, I will not sit and talk about the company Lauridsen, because if I had been there, I would have been completely sitting in the back seat, because I hate water. I would not have been able to do anything with water. No, you would not have. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yes, yes, yes. And that... Yes, no, that was a living fear of water. Yes. So that would never have been good. I could have gone as far as I could up the damn hill on Voss there now. Or jumped over the parachute, but the water...

No. We're going to get into that, actually. But he's a C-class, as you mentioned. Yes. No, not everyone has seen it on the commune air route. So he was... He was a... He was a hotel operator in Pärlund.

He did nothing. He was not a high-level back-up. He pulled himself from all those exercises. What's interesting is that he was not necessarily afraid of water, like you are, but he stood in the water and was supposed to swim out in a bend. And it wasn't the water scare that scared him, it was that it was so damn cold. Exactly, and that's very nice of you to say, because I don't know Senterstøn, but he's an athlete and looks great, and I think it wasn't the water fright he had, or the height fright, but he felt uncomfortable, and that discomfort was enough for him. He hasn't been pushed so much on uncomfortable before.

That's what I think. He also met a opponent. Yes, I'm a good guy. I'm willing enough, yes I don't know, to sell him. Not really. Just like me. You have to say that, because you are… You are Kovinke, you can say whatever you want. With Martin Lunde?

With Martin Lunde, that's right. I have seen her in the game. I know a little about that world. I was so surprised how irritated she was about that. I saw it afterwards. I think she made a very nice figure for herself, but you should be irritated about that, right? No, but she is from another world. She came from Paradise Hotel and she was on the home course.

That was the game that was supposed to be played. And I was just wearing a suit and had a good time. And when she chose the biggest sum, it was very easy to just go for her. It cost me nothing. Nobody did anything, so I was like, of course. I think I did that with the Glimped Eye. If she knew me, she would have understood. Of course, he does that.

But she was a fly, damn it. Big with Anna to the hip. Juni Lunde. Juni Ankerlands. Yes, big. I was a starstrucker on your walls when she came into the house. What is the name of the man to Juni Ankerhansen? No, to... What was it? Juni?

No, the man to... The lover to Juni. What was it? The man to Juni Ankerhansen? Yes, Ragnar Lunde. Ragnar Lunde. Yes, yes, yes. Nikolaj Lang Nilsen. That's not true. Yes, yes. But it was often a fact with Ragnar. She was in agreement with Arne Markusen, the pastor, Inga Helge Gimle.

He was a sex-homan in Hotel Cæsar. And then Ragnar Lunde started a relationship with the naturist, or nudist, Bitten. Which eventually ended up with me being in agreement with with Ragnar and his own son. Then she got pregnant, Albert Lunde. Albert, right? Came back with a sun and... I remember you played DART, but the first Albert Lunde. Right?

And then she came back with the sun and the moon, the twins. And showed that it was Ragnar's children anyway. So, this is not going to happen. It was hell to drive. Ragnar, poor man. We will continue. He still has his kids. This is not going to work. It was hell to drive. Ragnar, poor guy. We will continue. I forgot to take that...

Have we said... We have covered a part of you. It will never be a particular portrait interview. But you were afraid. I will just take it quickly. What triggered it? What was it? Did you keep the drunkenness? It didn't feel as dramatic as it seemed in my head. But when I was four or five years under the bath, I remember that I fell into the sea.

I fell into the depths. I just remember the sound when you were completely surrounded by water on all sides, and you didn't know what to do. You panicked, and then my father came and pulled me up. And still today, if I end up with my head underwater, I feel the same way. Exactly the same feeling. And now I think it's too late to fix it. Everyone has a room with a narrow space. If I can't move at all. Closed?

Yes, closed and very nice. And also a very narrow space where I have some space. Because I can be rational in these situations. I think, okay, I'm just in here and I come out again, if it's a controlled setting. So if you stand here so close, and you feel the wall on all points of the body, then… Then I get exhausted, then I become irrational. Yes, okay, yes. If I can't move, if I come into a box like this, then it's the same if it's under controlled form.

I think I haven't been tested on it, but I would struggle with that. So my worst nightmare is a snowfall and hand and mouth. I actually have a cyanide pill under my tongue if I walk near a mountain in winter with snow. Is that true? That would have been fun. Where do you get cyanide pills from today? You are down here in the middle of Oslo center. It's incredible how you can get a roof. To go to something that sells toilet.

I'm not sure what to say. Cyanide? Yes, it's nice. It's fun to shoot the camera. It's like what we call it with Jon Alvastøt. They say it. Favorite drink? Oh! No, where are we going to travel?

There are less and less drinks to drink. Unfortunately considering the life you live. But classic, GT, Whiskey Sour, all that stuff. It's going down. Favourite show? Favourite show? No, should we go to... Where are we going to travel? Just say it. Season 1 of True Detective, should we go? Fine.

Go to Rett? I've become a… Everyday as a party. I've become a pizza nerd, you know. And that's stupid. It's a very middle-aged man. And it's a bit too early. Brann Parkl, pizza upshot, I think.

Yes, that's not stupid. Not stupid. But my go to… No, it's probably like all other white men. It's Bolognese. I'm very fond of them. My go-to, no, it's like all other white men, is bolognese. At least the ladies are very fond of making it. But no, pizza is good. Pizza is good, and meat is also a good thing.

Right. I'm a bit embarrassed to start talking about how to make bolognese. Yes, go ahead. But quickly. Yes, quickly. Okay, where do you start? I start by of course, to chop and finely chop chopping a bunch of onions, also known as garlic. Garlic, garlic powder, pepper, of course. Relatively even size. The white onions first. Do you use stale onions?

Stale onions? Yes, absolutely. The aromas must be in. Fennel? No, not just fennel. It's a bit of a… Yes, I agree. The white onions in the Norwegian olive. The aromas must be in. Fennel? No, not fennel or man. You agree? Yes, I agree.

Mix the onion in the olive oil, throw it in the garlic, then the carrot, fry the meat on the side, do it like that, and then let everything go sour a little. A piece of tomato puree, up in there, bam bam bam.

And then... How long do I let the onion cook in the pan? And then we add the fresh tomato puree. Bam, bam, bam. And then... How long do I let the onion cook in one pan? And then I add the other vegetables in another pan? Okay. And then I let it cook for 5 hours? If I have time. And then the meat of course,

cook it with red wine or white wine. All of that. Much less difference between white wine and red wine than many think. Yes, in that context I think so. Same as that, tomato, basil, we should have some thyme, and some fresh bayberry. I've heard you talk to me about fresh blueberry, versus dry, which is the easiest to pick. And as long as you're in time, let it ripen. Ripen, ripen, ripen. Yes, that's fine. I think it's not innovative cooking art, but it's good.

Yes, it's very good. I couldn't say anything, I could pick on you, but... What do you want to pick on? No, it depends on how much sweet you like a bolognese. Is that clear? I got some challenges in the mail, there were some who didn't like the spicy tomato. Oh yes? Yes, they wanted it very sweet and sweet one. But I'm not going to use sugar.

I took it with a sharp arm and thought that I would get all the sweetness out of onions and other vegetables. That's why I let it simmer on very low heat for an extra long time. I started early in the morning. I got the vegetables really caramelized. I also had cherry tomatoes, which at the beginning were pretty sweet, which I had at lowized in the vegetables. And also there were sliced tomatoes, which at the beginning were quite sweet, which I baked in low temperature in the oven. Yes, that's good. And I also had some white onion fat in there, which I also baked.

That creates a very nice balance and sweetness in the dish. And it gives that characteristic Bolognese taste. But are you the guy who makes the pasta himself? No, I don't mind. No, because it's a bit too much oil, too little, I think. I saw an old Italian lady on Instagram the other day, or was it TikTok? I think it was Instagram. She was so old, she had done so much, she made lasagne.

And she did everything, it was so real, the whole package. She did it on a... She was like a hedgehog, she was like a hedgehog on the table, and she cracked those eggs in there and started moving around. Vulcan, Vulcan. Vulcan, Vulcan. And she got that idea in the end. It seemed so unobtrusive. And it seemed like she had hated using dry passes. It wasn't an alternative for her. It's something that is a thing of laziness. You feel that it's not enough to earn enough. No, there is too much work for too little salary, I think. Do you master the art of opera to some extent?

No. Couldn't it have been anything? No. Couldn't be anything? No. Absolutely not. If you had the time, would you go for a band or a tampon? Intuitively. A band. No, a tampon. Sorry. You would? Yes. It seems that you stop... I'm talking nonsense. Not that I have anything against it, but I'm saying it against it.

You take it easy a bit, that you stop earlier. A prop? Yes, a kind of prop. You get it done earlier, and you take it better. You have to have the thing up there. There are many who are not looking forward to that. There are many who are not looking forward to that. I haven't thought about it that much, but your thoughts are different from my answer. Good. Then it is quite... I don't understand how long we have been doing this, but I have to get something in my childhood. You have to do it now? No, but I have to get a training session.

You have to? What do you do? I train strength and a little running. I have a hard time with my shoulders. I train my legs and back one day. I call it the exercise A. And then there is the upper body, which is exercise B. With interval running, like on the heel of D. And then there is the C-class, which is the new leg-class.

So then you have knee bend, back lift, and so on. And then you have the knee lift and leg press, which is the C-class. And you are so privileged that you have a PT. I have a PT. I see. It's a very good investment. Where is it? I need it.

Where is it? It is at the embassy, the old American embassy. They have moved there. It is a very fantastic new training studio. And then there is the same over-body exercise again, running there. If there are not two running coaches, maybe there are not. Is it interval training? It's interval running. It's something that's B and it's over body. It's not like ball sport score? I was in the score for a while.

I stopped. It's a shame. It's damn fun. I've played so many scores in a period. I think you've played four times a week. It's damn fun. It's damn good so many scorshians in a period. I think I've played four times this week. It's so much fun. It's great. I have to work hard with this shoulder. It comes through and through. I have to be careful. You have a podcast crime series.

Yes, a documentary. What's coming now? That's right. May 2nd. May 2nd. Yes. I think it sounds so exciting. Yes.

Black rust die. You had Sinrell De Gangre as a guest. Yes. Order... Yes, he has made what I've been listening to in Norway when the documentary came on the radio. Or podcast. And I'm so lucky that I was allowed to make a documentary series for them. A 3 year old Norwegian 3 year old who disappeared during a game with an 8 year old friend in 1991 and never been found. What kind of game was it?

They were just cycling around in a sports place and after that no one saw them. So suddenly he was gone? Yes, suddenly he was gone. You mean he was a 8 year old and didn't piss or anything? Suddenly he was gone. What do you mean suddenly he was gone? Exactly what he said, suddenly he was gone? Say he is a 8 year old and pisses or something? Suddenly he was gone. What do you mean suddenly he was gone? Exactly, suddenly he was gone. So he is also gone?

This is the explanation of the 8 year old. Yes, it is what is written in the police documents. That he is gone. Suddenly he disappeared. The sick thing is that... It was a week ago. Yes, right? It is four episodes.

I got my father with an A-list with people who did interviews. Aspern Rakelev, who is Norway's leading A-list. I just said, oh, it's a four year old who suddenly disappeared. No, it's the boy who disappeared. Yes, the boy who disappeared. So it's a new one, May 2, four episodes. I think it will be very fun. I have done Manus, Research, Interview and Voice.

So if you are interested... If you like this voice... Then it's just tuning in. Then it's more in the voice. Yes, it doesn't do anything. No, it's true. It's great. Damn, the guy who just disappeared. I feel sick.

Yes, okay. I just... You have two boys, one young and one 8 years old. No other was there. So then it's the 8 year old's explanation that is here. Maybe. You have to believe or not. And that is also interesting of course. I could have said that, but I thought it was so exciting that I said yes, this is good. But this was really exciting. It is quite exciting, and I have got an insight into all the documents. There is a lot to pick up and take note of, and I think I did. Can you say something about the feeling you got in the sea?

Or is the post-research finished? I don't know if I have done post-research in one way or another, but I have pointed out things in the thing that has not been pointed at before. And that was what I promised the other guy's family. I will not allow you to give an answer, but I can at least allow you to ask some questions around what happened and why you have not received an answer. And I feel that they have done that. Very interesting, Tåkon. Black Throat, Dock. there are other things as well.

Absolutely. We can run an ad for them. Yes, without them going to... Operation Charlie. You can throw it in. I don't work there. If I am in a podcast and I have some interests, I can just fly in and throw it in. Yes, you can. And I notice the program managers all the time.

But now I have to throw in your quiz on Njø, and that is very nice. I've noticed that the program manager has been like, damn it! But now I'm going to put your quiz in the news, and that's very nice. Okay, it's going to be delicious, no matter what. It's not delicious, there's always room for another team. Well, if you are two or three, there's room for another team. You are at home to have a really good weekend, if it's weekend for you. Have a nice life, you will never listen again. Thank you for listening and God bless you. Bye, thank you, Håkon. Bye bye. The the

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