Fladseth - #194 - Mohammed Basefer

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

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Bavmy. That was Kurt Nilsen's classic She's So High, you listen to Flade Set, and I have Mohamed Bassafar... No, Bassafar. I don't want you to be called Bassafar. Yes, there have been cases where people have sent letters to the mail. And that can be the customer service on TV, for example, just write BAMSEFAR on Facebook. I thought you meant that people have written letters because they want you to write Bassefar or Bassefair. No, no, no. Then it says to Mohammed Banssefar or Bassefar. And Bassefair means only the son of zero. Should I take it on my horse? The son of a zero? The son of zero, yes. The number in Arabic means zero. So I called up a man who ignored all the warnings from the countryside. And he sailed with his two ships to India,

or he was on his way to India, he thought. And because of the storm, those two ships went... It sounds like Christopher Columbus. Yes, yes, it goes to hell. He dies, the crew dies. And then he sat in the countryside and thought, okay, what should we call them now? Because your last name is not decided by you, it's the rest of the community that decides your last name.

That's how it is at least. And then they decided to call it Sønavnull, because they have nothing today. And I'm just as black 100 years later. That's fantastic story, it's the best start, I could have never dreamed of it. It's so nice to come here, it's been a long time since I've been on the podcast. I love podcasts and it's a great honor to be here. Give me a little cheers with the coffee cup. I'm happy.

It's so nice that you could be here. You were walking around with this crick. So the fourth round of this. Now you have a choice. We met at the coffee shop the other day. Yes, that's right. And I've seen you with this, and you can either go around like a scrawny tapir, or own a crock. A godfather, a symbol. Something you have with you. He is the bad ass with the stick, you have seen him all year. The only bad ass with the whole hook is maybe the thing that sticks out. I can defend myself if I pull it.

It's that ice chop, I've had a cramp in my back, I promise. If you take on the ice function, it can be a very dangerous weapon. But it's not that deadly, because you can stab people and it hurts. I can walk without cramps, but it looks really bad. Let me see your limb. I can identify myself with a penguin. It's like that. Yes, it's a cut from right to left.

It's not a creep walk. Yes, a little. It reminds me of Snoop Dogg. Yes, I think you should walk without it. It just doesn't look good. Because I have a bad headache, I go out. So it helps with the cramps. What's the problem?

The problem is that I thought I could integrate my own data into Norwegian winter culture. Because it's a kind of acorn failure. Yes, and I bought two acorns, 100 kroner, first one, and I found that one, it was really cool, but when I delivered the acorn to my daughter, I thought that was just a 5-20 meter down hill. She could possibly get hurt. She ran down and the anchor board just turned to the left. I screamed in Arabic, you have to go straight ahead, al-Atoll, al-Atoll. She just took the anchor board, slipped down and made the same mistake. So I took it off.

And the last scene I told her as a healthy man, I don't know if you remember, it was like, Talia, look what daddy is going to do now. I was like, are you serious? So I took it down, the board, I can't control it suddenly. He goes to the left now, and then comes a hill, I fly like one meter, and then a hill came, and I flew about 1,5 meters. Even the world's strongest person could have gotten the I was on the edge of a sharp cliff. First I thought, I hope I don't end up there. And then I went there, of course. After that I knew it was a break-up. Immediately, Talia, she's 5 years old, tries to help.

And then she starts talking about pepper-pig-plaster to me. I'm like, do you have pepper-pig-plaster? Just to be with her, right my friend called the ambulance at the same time. She said she didn't have it. I asked her why, and she said she needed morphine. And I actually got fentanyl. I have never had it before. Fentanyl is actually a black... It is 100 times stronger than morphine. Yes, that's it.

But that's what the pig's How much fentanyl is that? It's a bit small. I don't know. They said, you know what, now we have to follow you. You can't close your eyes. Try to keep them open. And then I put two drums in front of me, staring so intensely at me. I was like, okay, why? Yes, because you're going to get fentanyl. because I had a huge piece of bread. Let's be honest, I'm not a thin man. I'm from melk.no, and I have a BMI on… You're not a bad fight either, because you're painting a picture of the size of Jørgen Foss. No, but according to melk.no. According to melk.no? Yes, and it's a BMI calculator, and I have that with me.

I have that with me. I have that with me. But I have that too. Yes. You just have to have… if you eat a couple of burgers too much in that way, you have overweight. I think I have overweight, if I had something to say about that. Yes, you say that. Or it's vitamin D deficiency, because I'm a brown man and… Give these thick pins the best power we have here.

Yes. So you keep your mouth shut with that thing. I didn't get it, I promise, but I sang two words of the song. Yes, and I... So keep your head up with that one. I didn't get it, I promise. I sang two words and two songs seven times. And it was... Oh, you did. It was a good mood. I remember I got a really...

I didn't feel any pain. I was like a child. It was a completely insane experience. Isn't that beautiful? And then I realized that this is dangerous. It's dangerous. Every time you do something like that, I understand very well why people continue with this. Very, very well.

And if you have it all messed up, and then you get a round with that thing in the hospital, then I was like, why should I have it in some other way than this? On the outside, then you continue, and then you are hooked, and then it's on. Have you ever had a morphine? For a couple of reasons. The first time I got it, I was only, I say seven years old. What? Had used the lower leg across the... No!

No! Really, you also had used the lower leg? Yes, because it's the lower leg that you used. Yes! Yes, I used the lower leg across the... I was younger than you. I haven't cried so much that I didn't have a tear. What the fuck? No, it's okay, I'm not crying.

But it was so I saw you stooped over the water, and then you just put your head on the water. You mean football, yes. Military stoop, is it? Yes, ok. You put your hands on the side and stooped with your head straight down. No, stooping is a thing. Football says that you are in... You know nothing about football. Look at this. Look at this. Let me defend myself before you judge me. You are a very footballer, Lam. I have struggled mentally because of Manchester United these years.

Have you? Yes. Okay, so you can do it. You can't just name the player. I wasn't the best footballer. I scored to self-goal. That's what I'm good at. Yes, and it's very common to score self-goal with a stooped shot. No, you understand the thing. You get a ball get a half-height ball in the field, it's too high to kick, too high and too low to hit. Commonly. So then you throw it in, and jump with your head first and hits the ball. It reminds me of the guy who scored for the Netherlands during the World Cup. What was his name? Nistelroi? Nistelroi? Yes, I remember his goal.

I remember Nistelroi's goal. I remember several hundred goals he scored. Yes, but during the World Cup. You're talking about a goal that scored so many goals that it is completely crazy. That's true. We can't talk about football, because I lost the blue I practiced Stupedding in my childhood. It was supposed to sit. It was your gift. It was your gift. I practiced Stupedding, and then there was food and all the others who practiced Stupedding ran down.

And I was just going to take a pair of Stupeds, because I felt like I was in the right place. And then I was going to get on the sofa, because we practiced on a sleeping sofa. And when we got up from the Stupedding, I managed to get my legs down in the buttocks, and I lost my balance, so I hit my lower legs on a pole, and it was a hell of a rough start. Did you see the legs? Did you see his jaw? No, I just saw that it was completely... It's been a long time. I just remember that the hoof was up and it was poking something. And I was at the hospital. Dad thought I had got my knee out and led him. I'm not going to lie, it was chaos. And then he had learned that he was going to hold the arms under my thighs, but he did it on the bridge He did it on the barbeque?

I'm not scared of anything So he did it on the barbeque? Yes, he did it much better, he was a good father, but right there he wasn't good Is he an engineer? No, he is a heisman. Okay, yes, but then the knee is not the best… But how long… No, I got a sprain in the rib, that was the only thing I could see. And I remember that the best.

I have a long experience with the operator, It might look a bit like that, but I am a guy who has had leg problems four times before. This was the beginning of my 20's. A lot of sports-related injuries. I have never been a sportsman, but I have never been someone who warms up. I never warm up. You don't want to? I have never taken it seriously. But I have learned that this is right and simple because I am not warming up. Basket injury, broken ankle, leg injury, operation, whole leg full of stings because I didn't warm up. The cross-body injury because of the kick. And a bump. A bump too?

Yes, with Karsten in the corner and they had to turn off the music. Did you put the cross-body in a bump? Yes, I landed wrong. When I landed, the leg went one way and the knee went the other way. No, damn it! It was just... Even Karsten said, I saw it. Karsten Blomvik, you are a comedian, I am a comedian, Karsten is a comedian too.

Let me put you on the list. The cream from the home. Oh, thanks for saying it without forcing you to. It's so nice to see the cream from home. I can trust your background and your life before you came to Oslo. I trust you. I haven't done that. I'm not exactly the biggest guy you can find on the street. You did the door show. Yes, that's where we met for the first time. We made a short series in the door. You played really well. Did you want to use that word? You played really well. You played really well. Did you like the word you use? You played really well.

Was it fun? It was insane. The most I have asked. Which episode have you played with the wheelchair? Often it is the one that dominates. It was fun. I had hope in the last one, but people often answered the episode you were in. I must say. But I was born in Yemen.

How old were you when you were in it. I have to say. But I was born in Yemen, right? How old were you when you were born in Yemen? I was only three months old when we moved to Saudi Arabia. And there my dad started working for the Bin Laden family, and we are from the same county, Yemen. But they came to Saudi Arabia long before us, and damn rich people. So dad worked as an engineer. You have to stop there, start another family. Because you know Osama Bin Laden, but that is a big family. And I have heard that his son is a visual artist.

And so I have heard. I can trust that family. That's just what I was told about my own father and great-father. But we don't have that kind of relationship, that dad got a job in the company, actually because he was from the same place as them. Yes, right. So I call it corruption, but I don't know. Contacts? Contacts, networks.

Did you have contacts with Osama bin Laden's family? Yes. And then they moved to Saudi Arabia and started working in... My dad worked there, but then the Gulf War came between Saddam and Kuwait, and the president of Yemen was cheering for Saddam, and none of the Gulf states liked that the president of the home supported Saddam. So they were going to punish all the residents. And then it was like that, before that year, you had to sell all your properties as a resident, or the state would come and take it. Oh hell, you know.

And what do you think would happen if you had a big block on 5 floors? You would have to sell it. You would have to sell it? Yes, with a loss. The value of the people was reduced. My father ran a gold factory with Triandre. A gold factory? Yes, my father has worked as a goldsmith since he was 12 years old. And as a payment he used to get gold dust. When he got married he had 2 kilos of gold dust. Which he made gold rings for mom and invested in.

That was every day after school. Is that what you call leaching? That you leach dust around a different amount? Is that it? I don't know if you say it, but it's like a remnant. And it's a little bit of gold dust, I mean I'm called gold dust. But that's what he got as a payment from the old man. And yeah, it was just a cool upbringing in Søvdraben when I think back in time. Because for me everything was normal. It was normal to see people being pissed in the public.

It was normal to see things and thoughts that are against humanity today. How old were you? I was from 0 to 7. I feel that I have lived a very screened life, and and don't remember much from my childhood, because there was not much... There never happened any old traumas or anything like that, and the small unpleasant events, I remember maybe, like a knee cramp, or a broken leg for example. If you experience such things, do you feel like it sets in, do you feel like you remember more, do you feel like you remember other things as well? Yes. Since you have been experiencing those things? I think so, maybe.

It's good that you ask, because if I think about it, my friends, there is a lot I remember that is negative. Yes. There are positive things as well. But a lot of crazy shit happens. Teachers who beat you,. And they beat you up with creativity. It's not like the teacher says, find your future. And then he beats you up. If he has already done it with you, he will crush the next round with something else.

And he will gather three or four students. They will hold your legs up and down. And then he chooses the strongest students. And then he will poke your foot in front of everyone, and you will hear them screaming, and it just looks like that. I remember that. But it is common in the culture to do that? It is common that the teacher has a very high authority in society. A very high authority. We have taken a completely different turn here in the country nowadays, there is a lot of debate about that.

But we know that in Norway, it was not everything too many years ago, it was normal that the teachers could punish with. And then there were not those violent, creative borders. I think it was the line on the fingers, or the so-called Spanish tube. It is just rice on the fox with a pipe. You get to lie with the fox in the worst case and get a red pipe. But do you have to pull down your pants? Yes, I think so. Okay, so there is sexual harassment in your pictures? Yes, and the teacher was almost obliged to laugh at the little baby cow.

And the baby cow. Maybe that's what they mean by that things were better before the time. When people say things were better before the time. People say things were better before the time. It's interesting how... You were born in 1989. I'm 87. It's obvious that I notice the difference when I move here as a child. I remember the first I notice the difference when I moved here as a child. I remember the first class hours in Sweden.

My dad had a fake visa and I flew and drove my mom to destroy all the passes and threw it down the toilet. So they would send me to Stockholm and maybe they would send us to the building. So I remember a couple of weeks later I started school and and she just turned off the lights. I was sure that she would get beaten up. I was like, now the punishment is happening. I don't know what happened, but I think I'm part of this punishment. I took four pieces and thought, okay, now something is going to burn. She's going to burn one of us. And then she found a fire extinguisher. And lit it on. And I was like, what the fuck is going on? Then she lit a lot of fire extinguishers and divided gingerbread in the shape of hearts. And juice, red juice.

And I was like, fuck, is this school? But did you think that it was like, okay, we will be tortured soon with flames. Now they just have to think that we are going to a little nice, so that the pain will get worse. But it made no sense. Or were you like, oh yes, now it's just nice, or were you still a little on guard? No, I was on guard, because it made no sense, but it worked. Because I was sure, there is so much violence and punishment at school that I won with it, that I thought, there is no other reason to turn off the lights in the classroom,

except that you are going to punish us. I was skeptical, because it was around Christmas time. It was Christmas time. Then you started with the Swedish, and Tom the Goob, and la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la I went home and told them about the experience of getting a hot lunch at school where I could choose what I wanted to eat and drink as much as I wanted. It was a completely different planet. I'll never forget it. I was lonely when I moved to Norway.

I had to have my own food package. My parents were like a family. Have we never managed to get that hot lunch? No. Have we never been able to get this warm lunch in? No, we are still talking about apples or milk or yogurt. I never understood why there have been so many political opponents for these common goals. I think that is very important. In Norway, it is very open and in one way, very interested in equality in one way, but in other countries, like England, there are school uniforms, and I am very interested in gathering around meals, and gathering, gathering, gathering, I think that is very important. Not so interested in Norway. I think you should create some social intelligence by forcing people to eat together.

Yes, I think so. Have you seen what kind of food, I saw a list of what kind of food some countries serve their students in elementary school. You had China, Japan, Scandinavia, Sweden, USA, and the original Burger King, McDonalds I have seen Jimmy Oliver and many other people, and I have seen programs about it, it's completely crazy It's not food at all, but I think food affects the way you learn Yes, but I am completely aware of it, but what we know about the the environment is that it's insane to just serve the kids,

just processed shit, and stuff like that. It's like it's a bit of a conspiracy. It's almost like you would think it was a planned plan to just make all the feints and stupidity, just to get a very scary democracy, when you call it democracy, but it is just controlled by an elite, and all the stupid nurses run around and save people. But who was it that pushed? The sugar industry that pushes a thought that... The sugar industry has really worked hard. There was a lot of propaganda that sugar was healthy. You would think that until the 60's and 70's. I think I'll just throw it out here.

The same with the tobacco industry. Tobacco was... In all the coolest movies, the stars, on all the ads, everything, there was Marlboro ads. The cloning. Yes, and that was of course the industry behind it. There was a lot of money in it. So what we know today is very dangerous, sugar and tobacco. It was seen as healthy, status symbol, everything. I have, now I'm going to be a bit artificial here with you, I have received a message from my doctor about high cholesterol, then I said to him, what do you mean by high cholesterol, I don't know these things. No, you have fat proteins that can block your blood vessels.

You have to start eating white, light products. And then you have to start eating light products. And then you have to start with that medicine. So I started with that medicine and then I noticed changes in my penis. So I became worried. What kind of changes in the penis? So dysfunctional. Didn't it seem a bit strange? He got up and went to his shop.

And I read that it was a part of the side effects actually. So I went to google this and found a video by a doctor from Berum called Dr. Hexberg who was so angry and pissed off about the government's misleading information about cholesterol and carbohydrates. Hexenberg, I know him, he is one of the most skeptical about all the authorities' budget advice and all that. Yes, so I contacted him. Yes, I did. Yes, and then I paid almost 10,000 kroner and managed to lower my cholesterol level through the budget. Yes. Because Dr. Hexenberg thought that healthy fat is the more rice you get in the real butter. He thought that light products like soy, rapeseed oil, that is dangerous fat. But I am not an expert. I have been on the same thing. I don't say that I know anything. What have you learned?

I have read about this and I have seen and heard him in some podcasts. I have heard a lot about this. Are you skeptical of him? I have heard different types of voices and I am very skeptical of this little fly that challenges the authorities on such a level that you become skeptical about everything the authorities are doing. It's a very dangerous development. It creates polarization and so on. But I am very concerned that we should start to talk openly about it and that in scientific environments we shouldn't be hunting for witches and are torturing opponents. So there is a balance there. But I have heard the same and I am quite convinced that all this mass about plant oils and show and hey,

is not necessarily the right way. I have also thought that it goes much deeper, it is more complicated than just cutting out butter and replace it with processed plant oil butter and shit. I don't think that's the solution. And that's a bit... I raised this for my family in July. I met them as an opponent, that I should believe that I had taken on Kukluks' ad. There was so much resistance to it. It's a zero-accept to the possibility that the normal animal fat or the bi-products are not so dangerous. You are completely aware that the more you process milk or take away or process milk so that you remove the fat content in it, the more you go over to plant oil, butter and such, the healthier you become. And then you have not taken into account, easy-to-use, Cola Zero and Pepsi Max, there are none of those who are completely aware of plant oil and butter and such. I realize that there are few people who take up the problems with that. You just think, okay, there is no sugar, there is no fat. Then it's super good.

Then I can drink four bottles a day. And that's a bit wrong. It must be wrong. It's completely wrong. Look at that black butter of a product. But I have gone back to my doctor, because I told him that I had stopped taking cholesterol-calming medicines. And you should sit face down, as he gave me. I was like, what the hell are you doing?

He was fucking serious. Yes, but then we have to take the blood test. We have to check the blood tests. And this, then you would have gone three,-4 months with Hekseberg's writing. I just ate real berry, I don't use raps, no light products. And he said, yes, it looks normal. But what have you done? You were cut off from anything else.

Yes, yes, yes. We played a lot of roles there. You have something else? The I don't believe it, but I think it's a good thing. The reason I went to Dr. Hekseberg is because I got the perception that the opponents are among the experts. And that confuses me. You are one example, you are one research person, and that doesn't last in a clinical study. It takes many years before you manage to turn the focus from established to alternative. Yes, so The better it is, because we just want to find the truth. But it's very quickly made to become conspiratorial. And there's a reason for that, because conspiracies almost always have a root in reality. Apart from the Flat Earth theory, I don't understand it. But okay, it's about being controlled and that... I don't understand it.

But most people have a calm mind. So I think why are we so damn concerned with this with fat and sugar free products? If you see it in connection with big business, when it comes to the food industry, it's about using raw materials, such as goldfish, that you don't make money on. And then you make products from this, ultra-processing, to make a product that is unique, a new product, that you can make a lot of money from. So these new products with these oils, these cheap plant oils, that you can process down to a white buttery, as they call it, white and hearty, extra light, super good, cho cho, hey, that is a new product, it is an industry.

Is it money that interests you? Is that what makes it? It can be. I am interested in this. There have been rumors that the owner of Vita has had a heart attack. And... That is why God keeps it secret. Yes, that is true. But a friend of mine told me that he runs his own grocery store where he sells very healthy products,

little sugar, little carbs. And I'm a big fan of real fat, real meat. He's from that gang. He told me that you have to keep it under control. Don't listen to your father, he told me to stay away from you, and I said, don't listen to your father, he said to me. And I said, buddy, he's done a lot of education. And I said, you know, those people who only study medicine, don't study nutrition, they only have 7 hours in the course of 7 years of study. And then I got like, shit, I have to google this. I can't trust him, him or him. And then Hekseberg became a part of the journey.

The most important thing is to get closer. Because if you look up more truths and talk to Dr. Hekseberg, and you also have to talk to him. It's not that the doctor you had was very lucky. There are many. There can be. Saul Goodmans, if you take a Breaking Bad or the French one. I mean, there are real charlatans in all professions, all professional careers. So there are many doctors who, first of all, are bad. And the other one has a weird outlook. A bit too grisky. I had a doctor, a middle-aged doctor here a while ago. No, I was with my son. And then he says, and then he just go with it once. He started to be like, You're on TV, right? Are you famous?

Then the doctor said, Are you famous? And then he said to my son, Hi, your father is famous. Your father is famous. He was not even two years old. He was one and a half years old. And then he was like, a fool or something. He lost all credibility in my eyes. Or it becomes like, come on, you should be one.

He is a human friend. You know what? Disbelief to the doctor, while he was in Stavanger. I went over to him and said, I have no feeling in my arm. It's been eight hours. He said, you just have a nerve. You're going out. And then I go out that day to and find out on work via my colleague who took blood tests that I had 25 in the blood sugar level when I was between 4-6.

It was just sugar and ran through my blood vessels. There was blood pressure all over your body. Yes, and then I called the doctor and they said you have to come with me once, and I just lost my job. And I was admitted to the hospital for 8 days. The doctor there could just say, I'm going to take blood samples, I would have done that. I'm not a doctor once. Yes, no, of course. And the worst of all, the doctor was a diabetic himself with insulin pumps,

clistranes in the stomach. But this is a consensus. The answer is that there are bad doctors. Yes, but not only bad doctors, there is also a policy that is hopeless here. It is well known that doctors flee from their offices in a fast pace. Because it is too bad... Now? Yes, soon it will not be fixed again. Because there are bad conditions and bad things. I don't know exactly. But there are a lot of... The most they do is to sit and talk to older hypochondriacs who don't really have any problems. And they don't like it. There are many good doctors. I have two doctors who have lost their authorization.

One of them has a pill misuse at work. I could notice that when I came to work. He always looked out the window, never got in contact. He had hands on his stomach. He looked back at her person and said, I will help you today. And I said, no, it's just a flu. And she turned her head to the other side of the planet. But one day the police came and took her things. And said, no, youar Mumbis, where the police came to storm her and took her things.

No, you can't write medicine cannabis anymore. So she is not a doctor anymore. But yes... It's true, politics. There are forces that control, put frame conditions in doctors. Like you say. But I don't know anything about these frame conditions in doctors. But I think maybe they flee because it is poorly paid, that's what I think. Many people probably do that too, but I don't know exactly what's wrong, but I know there has been a debate about the rules of the law, and there are many laws that end well. From 1 to 10, how good health care do you want to give Norway? I don't have a good foundation for comparison.

I could sit here and say, I'm doing 3, because you're so bad. But I don't want to teach about it. Just stand, because I have a bad foundation for comparison. I can trust it. Maybe it was a stupid question, but... I have a New Year's resolution, which I have managed to keep. It's so bad, because I'm a loser. I start to mean things, with one go I get the opportunity.

Here I will try to be a little moderate and say, I can not speak about the Norwegian health system, but the only thing I know is that if the truth is always a stone in the middle, right? So if you talk to Dr. Hexenberg, who in a way is one of the doctors who has allowed himself to be a little ahead, because doctors are dependent on getting reports, they have to get documented science to practice this. But there are many doctors who just say, no, I don't want to wait. I think we, I take a 7 mile step and then I wait for the reports and the results from research and then we just go in another direction. Yes, but that can punish us. which many doctors off duty will probably say, this is very exciting, and we have not reached the goal when it comes to research, but it is absolutely on track here, until they can get on board with something that has been discovered

and known through years of research and testing, then they can not practice it. And that is a problem. And therefore we are lucky that there are opportunities to go to… You can go to other doctors who practice other things, our doctors, but the state health care system is bound to stick to science and research, and it is now. And then the question? No, now we are talking about the money dress again. It's weird.

Talk to doctors, talk to everyone, try to find, search for truth. It's not wrong to search yourself. No, search, but don't get confirmation biased or whatever. Even if Hexenberg and the gang are shouting very loudly, it's not like everything they say is right. It's a balance. I think. Don't go to the point where you're not satisfied. It's possible for him to go so far in the video.

It's a pity that people don't in life. Yes, it is. I don't think people are willing to answer us. I think. How... There was a violent health issue, but it is... Yes, but the reason is that health is a big part of our lives. It is. Last weekend I went to Stravanger to see my father. With a good friend of mine, whom I've known for 18 years.

The guy was 35. Suddenly he got a message, saying, hey, you've got ALS? Your muscles will disappear very quickly, because you're a very aggressive type. And I thought, without health you don't have life. And that's why we need to talk about health. The older I get, the more interesting my body gets. I discover new things every day. I totally agree. I am also very concerned about health. I know a lot about it. I am one who explores things that are a bit outside of the mainstream perception

I have been very much on the fast thing, and this with ultra-processed It has become more understood Have you fasted? Yes, absolutely Like Muslims? No, it is zero with religion But I think you fast in the sun and go to the sun? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you are stuck in Islam, I don't understand that in Bæra. I am stuck. I am stuck at night, I am busy.

Yes, you are stuck while you sleep. I try not to eat too late and wait for the day. And it helps a lot. Yes, yes. At least with me. This is what I talk so much about, and people are tired of it. It sounds like when you talk about football. But I am concerned about it. And then you get made up and led by it.

And this with fasting and ultra processed food, those terms, people are tired of it. People think it is a hype and some bullshit. It is annoying. You have to try to keep it to yourself. And then we talk to those who care. And then I apologize to the listeners if they think that the conversation was too much health related. You were in Sweden, and then you came over to Norway. Yes, then the police were on the hunt and sent us back home. And then mom and dad thought, no we are going home and on the 4th of the week night, we were in a car

a 5 year old car, we were 7 in total so I was sitting between the balls to dad couldn't see anything and do you mean that between the balls you used the balls as a kind of sack? yes, I was sitting between the balls he said a very big point yes, and his dad. I never forget that.

The first time I saw my penis in the hair. I lost my self-esteem. And I haven't gotten my self-esteem back yet. I had it all in my ears. But I was there and I just heard the conversation going on between him and the guy who is stealing from us. He was a Libyan man from Libya, lives in Canada. He said to his father, you have to choose Denmark, Finland or Norway. And he said, Norway? What is that?

He said, it's four and a half hours away from here. Finland is a little longer, about ten hours. Denmark, no, about six hours. But how is Norway? Do they let people go? Yes, they let people go. So we drive, he lets us go on the train, and then my father says, is this the border?

He says, no, this is Oslo. The border? Yes, but we have driven past the border many hours ago. What? Is it an open border? Then it was like, I was 7,5, was like, huh? Is it an open border? I was 7,5 years old and I was like, what? Is it open border? You come from Midtøs and there is a checkpoint for every 50 km And then you come to an area where there are no clear borders

Which felt very comfortable And then they sent us to Rogaland You had a very good time for immigration I did, I came there You were a gold medalist for illegal immigration. No one checked your name. I came in the year when the sun was shining. Yes, I see.

I was known as... What is it in Norwegian? It's Ole Gunnar. Sun and Rettdal. You became a fan in 1996? 1998, baby. Summer 1998. Oh, oh, oh. It was still Cantonese, I still remember. I always forget, the ones with the pedals on the back of the truck.

No. It was a spray day too, it was. Yes, yes. Just look at the stuff. But how was it? Albania, Kishenia, Somalia, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, all those nationalities in one scene and the same building. So of course there is a knife stabbing.

Of course there is. Yes, yes. But I still have was a knife stabbing. Of course there was a knife stabbing. I still have traumas from that time. People were pissed off by others. People were pissed off. The least they could do was create a holy war. Who is this my spice? Who has used my spice? So it was like, war began and then you had to move, people maybe Norwegian, maybe English, Satan it was clear. You have in a way, you remember in a way, it's interesting for one who has lived the most

homogeneous, calm upbringing with just white privileged people on the north side. It's not that you had pepper and salt, right? You can have a look at how you saw Norway, what you thought about us. There were some older people who had experienced wars and everything, but we were very happy in the peace time, because it looks like that. I thought about you. I remember that I gave my first impression at school. That was where my first meeting with teachers and other children really took place. It was a bit strange. I don't know why the teacher was so damn hard-hearted, but I came to school and I didn't have a penal house. I had all my pens in my pocket. And she screamed like, no, you must have a penal house. Penal house? I don't know what it is. Did you about Swedish? Yes, Swedish. I told them that I was going to go home. They said that I needed a house, I could buy it.

They said that they had room for the band in the bag. I don't know, a house? I don't know, a house? Is a house the same? I don't know what a penal is. Is a penal house the same? I don't know. I don't know what a penal is. Penal house? Yes, like that. Is a house a penal?

A place. A penal is a little bubble, a little skin bubble. Yes, that's right. But you should have a solid house. Yes, but call it a penal house. At least that's where I come from. Then I came the next day, didn't't have a prison house, and then I started screaming. I was laughing at myself in front of everyone in the class.

And I had to start explaining to myself what a house means. And I remember it was so scary, even though I was a child, I got scared because I thought you could handle it in a different way when I was laughing at myself. And then I thought, damn, people are this. So I remember that it was a break. Because, I just want to stop you there, because then you actually had, what I had thought was that this little comfort and complain about Penalhus would seem like a bagatelle. Yes, exactly.

In relation to what you were used to from where you grew up. Exactly. So, but you still felt that it was still felt that, damn, they saw this ship here too. Yes, this was a big deal. Penalus was very important to Ryt. Her name is Ryt. I'll never forget. The break was very strange. I just sat there and waited. I had no idea where to go, so I just sat there. And I remember that I just felt a hand taking a hook in my head and tying me right on the table. So I started bleeding and didn't know why the guy tied my head on the desk. Who tied your head?

Right on the desk. A student? A student who sat behind me. And the class starts again and she sees the bleeding, the tears are running out. Then I got the message to go to the bathroom. I went to the bathroom and came back with a lot of paper and blood. And she just continued for an hour, as if nothing had happened. And there I got such strong feelings. I remember the day I came home and cried and asked my parents on my knees if we were going back to Saudi Arabia. I felt so bad.

But it was the most strange thing that happened. The municipality of Samnes was... Unlucky, we have to... Was it an unlucky thing? Yes, I was lucky. Once I was waiting for the bus and a car stopped. Two men came and drove to me and drove off the road.

That's it. I stood there and bled out of my nose. It's a strange thing that happened for the first time in Norway. But mostly I had a nice childhood with the move to Stavanger. I got a new neighbor, new people all the way and relationship. A very white neighbor. And I got to hear that. Always.

And the only thing that united us as friends, as good friends, was football. When we played football, all our friends got angry. I didn't know Norwegian, but I didn't need that when we played football. He was a Moroccan, black-haired. I've heard him on a podcast, he talked about the upbringing he grew up with. Was it Holmlia? I don't remember. It was one of those… Böhler? Yes, but it was one of those.

There was a lot of new Nazism and such. So he played on a team with the core, the whole central line of the team, the midfielders, the midfield anchors and the central line of the team were new Nazis. The legs were new Nazis. And the guy on the wing, the more playful Moroccans and the immigrant boys were in the same team, and they were friends, they played together. That's interesting. The new nazis... They were left with the new nazis, it wasn't them who took my friend Hermans. I think it was more common to identify with it at that time without being stifled by violence and being pushed out.

It's interesting how he could... It's interesting to hear him talk about it. Now I'm telling you something I've been remembering for so long. I've been impressed by the big contrasts in everyday life, or the growth now. Between extreme people and their own family. But if... yes, I will not talk about him. It has been tough... It was a picture of how he can unite football. He is so damn good.

Yes, it is true. A fantastic, nice In the Second World War, there is a story about two gunmen with enemies, two different gunmen, met on Christmas Eve and played football together. Oh, they played football? I thought they... Okay. I thought... Yes, it could be. I just heard that the Skjøtegraven had to take a break because now they were celebrating Christmas. But that they played football, that's insane. Where were you? Sorry. I felt that Norman was a little open to the new. Or they were afraid of the new.

Yes, yes. And I can relate to that with my father, who was also very afraid of the new. And has been a little, from his youth, quite anti-imperialist. So he encouraged me with statements about where the bad Bill Clinton was and all that stuff. So I had to find my own answer. And it was fascinating for me to see how the Norwegian was living until September 11. Versus the atmosphere at home and in the Middle East. There was like, hey, hey, we're taking over.

There was such an atmosphere, clapping and I played football and dad called me, Hamad! Hamad! And I thought, now it's serious. I knew it was serious, I could hear it. So I run from the football field and the boys are like, what's going on, mom? I don't know. And then they run after me after me and say, come in, watch TV. And then I see a plane in a building. And dad jumps and claps. And I look at me and my friends standing outside the house. And they don't watch TV, but they watch my dad celebrate over something. And he expects me to be part of this. And then I tell the boys, just wait until you come, so I'll be there to celebrate.

Because in my head, the US was the impregnated and has been treated very unfairly. If you live in areas that are affected by this, then the world view will look completely different than if you are from Norway and are close allies with the US, like Norway. Have you ever been to NATO missions and bombed one another in all of Norway? I remember the first class hour, the ninth day, or something like that. I don't remember the time, the day after, or something like that. I don't remember what time it was, but right after. We were supposed to have silence. One minute silence. I remember that I challenged my teacher on this.

Because I didn't understand why they were so lazy. I had nothing to do with this. I thought I was a child. Then I said to my teacher, they are bad people. They make war. But this is outside, this is civil, this is terror. I tried to understand what terror meant, but I didn't understand why we should show so much sympathy for a country that that drives so much evil in my country. Because as a child I got to hear a lot of weird things. I wish I could relax under it, but my dad was very interested in talking about it on the dinner table and all over the package. So that was... it challenged me. That's very interesting to hear.

I had to leave school because I made rabble doors. They drove in silence and quietly and I immediately thought, I was fucking washing in a certain way. And to explore things and find out what is true and what is the bad thing in the big picture, it took many years. But brainwashing, yes, partly brainwashing, partially just by using a different worldview. We, who grew up in Norway, brainwashed to the extent that it was told that Bush and the US entered Iraq to get rid of themselves, because they had nuclear weapons.

Biochemical weapons, yes. Biochemical weapons, which turned out to be a lie and a trick to enter the Middle East. And this is about control, this is about control in a region in the same way that you would have control in the South Sea, the South Sea, or what the hell, the Vietnam War, the No. 21. Yes, it's not just a freedom struggle. It's about positioning and it's about... It's a bit like filming. Jim Fosseheim, Jim Constantinople Fosseheim, on the outside, I'm going to film a bit. It's about control. So it's a very complex, but the information we get, the information they want to keep to the bit trend is a money, the manufacturing, to go into an area to get control. So there is brainwashing and the information we have that makes our world view different.

So when we see the plane flying into World Trade Center, we get completely different feelings than you and your father did at that time? Yes, for my father that day was a day when the Arabs finally took back their answers. For him it was a counter-answer, but for the rest of the class it was an attack on something that had not done anything with Midtålsen. So there were contrasts I met a lot of. And it challenges my perception of reality so much. What do we have here? I had to dig myself and found out that we have a fucking leader in Midtålsen. It's a lot of shit there. But this experience of yours, when it comes to this, the ref we talked about earlier, with seeking truths and seeking several sources of truth,

with the Kostols thing, it's a bit of a connection. You must have given yourself a very good starting point to seek truths that lie in the middle somewhere. Balance your thinking. Would you think so? If the world view was so challenged and you concluded that

it's not black and white here? Yes, it's a lot of things. It's also about the rush. Why did Christ and the others start rushing? I remember that the police came and talked about how dangerous hash was. And then it went on for a few weeks and then someone in the class started to experiment on that police report.

And then I thought, well, they are on their way to take their lives and then I see that they just survive. What the hell is going on here, I think, right? I have to find answers, it's not about anything. And I think it's because I've been confused. It doesn't make any sense. And so I have to try to find out things myself. It's not often that I sit there and think,

I have found answers and it's been a year. Maybe it's not the answer anyway. There is so much info out there, buddy. I have been challenged on this so many times. I thought I was close to the truth. And then I realized that I don't have to lock myself in. It's dangerous to lock yourself in. I try to be open about it. The older I get, the less I know. It could be that the truth I believe is the truth today is totally wrong tomorrow. And I just have to accept that I have made a mistake.

It is proof that I can develop myself. That's right. That's why I think this thing about the costs is very exciting. Because it is interesting to see how, if it is society as a whole, and then as authorities and some people who just stood blind to the fact that now we have the solution, this food that is white and hearty, then we have found the solution. And then we know, and the many who work with both as doctors and artists know that there is a lot that is left to be done before we understand this. So when that is the truth, it is also very strange that we are locked up in things. And this also applies to Russian politics, which I also find very interesting, because it is so incredibly locked up. Not any longer, fortunately. No, it's loosening, but we are still in the time of prohibition.

And prohibition has never been a good solution. We have in the Middle East had prohibition for women to drive a car, for example. The statistics show that the Middle East is at its top of the world when it comes to accidents. Even if we have the ladies behind us, we're not behind the wheel. So yes, forbidden, not always the solution. Take alcohol, for example. It was never a total prohibition in Islam. It came first as an recommendation.

No, don't drink before you pray. And then there was no one who cared. They were fucked while they were praying. And then there was a total ban every other day. But if you study the Middle East, there is a lot of alcohol consumption. Even though it is a ban, it is easy to get it. It is easy to get a Russian vodka bottle,

a bottle of water in Yemen. Now I'm putting it on the tip, but... Dad sent me to Yemen, because I became too Norwegian. And then I was there for a year and found out, hey man, I thought this was such a super muslim country. There were strip clubs, there are social shops, alcohol right next to a mosque. Such images have really changed my perception when I was there as a young man. How locked is the Yemeni society?

Very traditional society. They are very much in line with the old traditions, especially in Norway, where they haven't had English colonialism. But in the south it is a little more open to the new. And it is very noticeable when you travel there, that the culture of the tribes is super important to these Yemenemenians or rabbis. Your status is often judged from which tribe you are from. So when I say that I am a basefier, the Jemenians are ready to think, oh he is from that tribe. Because everyone from that tribe had something with B, and everyone from that tribe had something with D. The tribe thing, it was probably important once in a while up here too, but everything is forgotten. Hansen, the family, there is no such thing as a snoring. No, but again, the families control their own laws in a certain area, so then the basic law is not really there. If you kill me, my father will come and ask for blood money. And if he doesn't have the money, he will have one of our tribes shooting you.

And then the tribe culture law or islamic sharia, as they call it. A lot of that. It stops the development, it stops stability. It does. It's not the right state. Nope, not at all. I get a damn thank you for not being here. Yes, it's a lot of snow, it's cold, it's shit to drive out in the winter. But in return I have stability in the mind that I know that my daughter is safe. I don't have to worry about her. We have to be careful. We have to be aware of what we have.

You have always been talking about this, that we have to stick to democracy. We have to work for democracy. And we have maybe been lazy and let things go. Naive? And we have been a bit lazy and let things stretch out here. Naive? Yes, naive. We see now, the last few years, I feel like I have been just being ignored. And every week the minister has to leave because he has been

cheating. And one thing is cheating, the exam is just such a pathetic thing. But all these small attempts at fraud, all these small things about inability and and corruption. There are reports, or there are many who claim that Norway is a pretty corrupt country. And if you hear how corruption is there, it is very subtle. Smutthulskorruption. Smutthulskorruption. Which is quite scary. If you let it continue, then everything that has gone is gone. It's said, but surely.

When Jonas Garstøre was presented to the cabinet seat and he became prime minister, I thought so much, just here comes the third one, and then it's fucking eight or nine pieces. Two or three times more than you thought. He has just been driving and actually just rocked positions on his council or ministers. But he has been a little bit absent-minded as a minister. What has he done? That's what I'm wondering. I don't know what he has done. That's what makes it so difficult. He was a clearly right-wing man. Yes, but I don't notice any difference between the A's and the right.

There is not a big difference. People can criticize me for it, but that's how it has been. And that is something that is good with Norwegian politics, but also makes it difficult to get the big positive changes in the short term. They are opposing forces. Because there are two steering parties that are actually quite similar. It ensures some kind of stability, but at the same time it is a hell of a heavy truck or boat to turn and manage to get. But I can trust this. I notice it. I notice it because I have worked in the health care system for 10 years. I work as a night watchman. But I notice very well that the boss came to work and said, Hello, folks! We're watching you. They've lost their support, their housing support.

So now there's less swimming, less trips, but it's less. We have to find out what to cut, because there's less money. And then next year, we'll get the same message. There's less money on them and on you and on everyone. And then comes the pandemic. Now you have to take responsibility. So be part of the community. and there will be a lot of that over time. So when you look back, you think, damn, things were maybe a little better in the health care system ten years ago.

But yes. In relation to the population, we are the world's richest country, blah blah blah. But it's not like we have a screw-up, money-bunny, everything is locked up in shares and property and obligations. And shit. The one who knows how politics and pulse are made, lost the night in the sleep. That's true. We'll let the day roll on. How long have you been doing this? One hour? Jesus. Do you have anything to say? No, but... I have nothing to say, but I have stopped driving and not doing stand-up.

Yes, not doing stand-up. I'm on fire, I'm going to focus on the lyrics, I'm going to have a solo show in the fall. Or solo show, it will be half solo with Karsten, he does 40 minutes, I do 40 minutes, and then we'll see if people laugh. Right. 40-40. So now I have to concentrate on writing instead of thinking about booking and marketing. I recognize myself in everything, and I'm good at doing everything else than what I'm doing. I have a solo show premiere in one week, because it's cancelled today. I have a concert later, April 26th. I'm looking forward to it.

It will be a big experience. Can I ask, are you a painter? Are you a comedian that you have to paint? No, no, no. I just work in. I have worked in. This is a show that consists of many bits, sequences that are quite independent of each other. So I tried to make something that has roots here and there. It's called Laakultur. It's just... I just want people to laugh. There are a lot of jokes. There is not much more than that. And now I've been working for several years, now I'm very new. I have what I think is the best and funniest. And what I've been collecting together here. I've done quite a lot now. Been around a lot, tested and had a show.

So it fits quite well under the skin, but there is no puking. have any pugs. I can go through my head, but when I go out… You can't build a setlist? Yes, I build sets, I build poles, small points… Is that the most difficult thing you think of yourself? No, I don't think so. I think it's nice. It's about knowing my own line of sight. I know, but I must have an arc with a line of sight. Even on the premiere, which is in front of one of the monitors.

It motivates me to see that you and many others just drive and set up and it's cool. It makes me think about what I'm doing on stage. Yes, come on. I was pushed to do this. I was pushed for several years and now it fits. And it's damn fun. I'm really looking forward to it. It's very soon sold out. Nice, 1000 tickets then? Yes, right around the corner. And there is nothing I would rather… Isn't that the most you have sold? Yes, that's it. Nice.

Nothing I would rather want than those who listen to the podcast, and are faithful listeners, to get tickets to this show, so I say that. Because the last time, now you have to buy it, if you haven't bought it, or you won't get it. Because now it's sold out, maybe within the weekend. And it's very, very fun. We had the last rehearsal on Hønefoss now, and there were the regular listeners, Teppe Makke Got, Fredsen was there, and Knut was there, thanks for coming. It's nice to have... I call them blood fans. Yes, they are fans. They listen to the podcast.

You have fans and you call them blood fans. Blood fans are people who like to send you a gift in the post-cast, because you said something hysterical. They stand up when you come to their city and it's like... It's really nice. It's really nice. It's really cool. There's nothing more cool than that. That there are people who have followed and are part of the show. It's really cool. Buy tickets if you want. And come to 4040, in the fall, maybe.

Or come to Alta and Stand Up U. No, you know what? I'm going to try out Rogaland in the future. I'm going to test it there. And I'm try to come to the Rokaland and try to get there and try to get the people to see the premiere. Because it's a bit personal for me, that's what I want to do. And you are a very funny man. Thank you, I have had my bad days.

I was in the first position for several weeks. We were talking about it right before we started. You actually managed to bomb the stage with a white face. I don't know if others have done that, but I have done it. I thought it was fun and lost it. I got a brain injury. I got no help from Abu who sat next to me. Abu and I drove our own race with our mobile phones. It was just painful. And I have learned that whiteface is not good in Oslo. Maybe in Stavanger, maybe in Sandnes. Who knows what is the bomb with whiteface, what the fuck, whiteface? But I've done something with myself, I've often thought, you know what, now I've burned all the brothers. No one in the industry will... No one will come to respect me as a colleague.

That's the kind of thought I got for a long time. I have to move to Oslo and prove to that gang that I have a place to do this. It's been almost two years now and I've just had a broken leg and a sore throat. I haven't proven anything. But I will come back stronger and write in this holy book of mine that I have built thinking about it, that the rashes in the legs and cholesterol problems will be good. Hekseberg has done it. Hekseberg is the solution. I can go back to him, if I don't succeed in the comedian business. Thank you so much for allowing me to be here. It was a pleasure and an honor. I have had a very nice time and learned a lot. Thank you. And have a nice weekend or week, whenever you feel like it. Bye! The modern media.